1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Ronan, I think electric vehicles with current technology isn't gonna happen. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it can. I just I'm not wishing it. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be practical the Car Doctor. They 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: thought maybe that quick paint working right or something. Well, anyway, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: they took the ball off and then it quit grade 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: into battery. What's really need, Paul, is if you use 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: a thermal imager like I was describing, that thermal imager 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: will find that bulb hot three hours later. Welcome to 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: the radio home of ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five and now he running. 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: I guess the universe is maybe telling me to slow 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: down just a little bit, right, Listen. I get up 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: here every week and I usually start the hours of 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: the show or two hour weekly show or two hour 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: get together. Every week, you and I and I tell 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: you the events of the week, or or a really 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: tough car we worked on and solve the problem or 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: or something right. Tell you a story from the shop, 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: and you, guys seem to like the story from the 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: shop the best. Here's one you may or may not like. 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't too thrilled with it, but um, it's the truth. 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: It's sort of the biggest thing that happened to me 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: this week, and I figured I would share it with you. 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Friday is always a funny day and a repair shop, 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: you're you're you're trying to get the week closed out. 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: I like to close things out on Friday. I like 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: to have nothing hanging over of major proportion, or at 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: least if I've got something hanging over, I've got a 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: good direction so I can get a jump on it 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: for Monday. It's just the way I'm built. I I 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: just I like to have a beginning, in middle and 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: an end. Every week. It's just it just seems to 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: be what I am and who I am. This Friday, 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: this past Friday, it was no different. It was, you know, 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: the usual, let's we've got to get this done. We've 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: got to get this done, We've got to get that done. Um, 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, I I actually had some funny emails that 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: I responded to at my ten o'clock coffee, one of 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: which was it has nothing to do with what happened 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: later on in the day, but it seemed like a 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: normal day other than this. I I was remarking to 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: my friend Chris from Automotive Training Group. We were talking 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: about an email that had shown up that a s 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: C posted an email about a webinar a training session 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: for four o'clock on Friday afternoon, and I said, what 50 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: what what dope wrote that? Why would you write a 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: training seminar and post it and schedule it for four 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: pm on a on a Friday afternoon. That doesn't make 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: any sense. And we sort of kicked it around and 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, discussed, you know, do you do it at lunchtime? 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: M do you do it later? Do you do it earlier? 56 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: But four o'clock on Friday is just one bad time 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: because anything around four o'clock and later you're trying to 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: close out the week. And then we got through the 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: rest of the day and we actually were done about 60 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: oh gosh. By three o'clock. Danny and I had everything 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: buttoned up and customers were picking up cars and the 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: process was beginning and we were winding down. I said, 63 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: you know, let me just get let me just get 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: started on one more. Let's get let's get a jump on. 65 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Next week, all the parts showed up for Mary's Montego. 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: We've got a very long term customer with a No. 67 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Five Mercury Montego, which is seventeen years old now, and 68 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: and it needed a pile of things going on, and uh, 69 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, we've got it till it's done. But I 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: wanted to get it done, you know, I didn't want 71 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: it to go on forever. And one of the things 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: that I had to do was exhaust. And I wanted 73 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: to get the exhaust off the car because it would 74 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: give me a clear direction come Monday morning. And I figured, 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, let me get it up in the air. 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Let me get the exhaust off. I can lay out 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: the new stuff, line it up. What do I do 78 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: I need to get? Am I gonna have problems with 79 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: exhaust studs at manifolds and things like that, And this 80 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: way I've got a direction. And then I did a 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: stupid thing. You ever see those cartoons where they're cutting 82 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: down the trees and the character is sitting on the 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: tree limb and he's sawing off the limb. That was me. 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: I had a saws all in my hands and I 85 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: was cutting down the exhaust pipe. And as I'm cutting 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: through the pipe, I'm thinking, I wonder where the muffler 87 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: is gonna go. And then it happened so quick. It 88 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: happens so fast that you can't react to it. You're 89 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: you're you know, the mufflers not gonna go anywhere. And 90 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: then you realize the mufflers what's holding up the rest 91 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: of it, and the pipe is gonna be stuck on 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: its hanger. But the other side of the muffler only 93 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: has a rubber hanger at the one end. And sure enough, 94 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: as I was thinking it, it happened. Cut through the pipe, 95 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: the mufflers swung down and just like those buzz saws 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: and the bugs bunny cartoons, slit the top of my 97 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: left hand open seven stitches later, thank you. And as 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I was sitting in the emergency room at quarter to four, 99 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: and I was almost four o'clock at that point, I'm thinking, yeah, 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: this is why they say four o'clocks the witching hour 101 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: and a repair shop. And I was thinking what a 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: stupid move it was that I was in such a 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: rush that I had to do this and get this done. 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: And sometimes you just got to learn to say whoa, 105 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: um and I'll be all right. And you know it 106 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: was stitched up nice and um, you want to see 107 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: the pictures, send me an email. Uh, but it You know, 108 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: life is funny. Right this morning, I was on my 109 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: way to the chiropractor, and maybe this was the lesson. 110 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: And I was in a very laid back kind of 111 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: mode today as I was cruising out to the chiropractor 112 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: to get put back together from the week of auto repair, 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: twisting and turning and bending and so forth. And as 114 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the corner trying to make a left 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: onto this one road, the car and on me went 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: because the car coming from the other direction let him go, 117 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: and the guy went and he left and he came around, 118 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and I was in no rush, and the guy driving 119 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: the car just yelled an up, sending to me at 120 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: me about what do I need an invitation? And I 121 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: just a lot of hostility in the world, you know, 122 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: so my hand will be all right. And I thought 123 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: about it, and I said, you know, maybe if I 124 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: hadn't cut my hand, I might have been more aggressive, 125 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: and maybe that would have led to a problem. So 126 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: maybe the universe saved me. I guess the point becomes 127 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: you can reflect on it all you want, but you 128 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: know what, order repair is a dangerous proposition because when 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: you least expect it, something goes wrong. Something can go wrong, 130 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: and you know it's It's funny. It was trying to 131 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: tell me it twice because when I was heating the studs, 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: I didn't catch it at first, but there was some 133 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: oil absorbent matt on the ground in a corner that 134 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: I didn't see, and I turned around and it was 135 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: on fire because some of the embers had rolled over 136 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: onto it. And I said, well, that would be a 137 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: great way to end the week. I'll set the shop 138 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: on fire. Um. And then fifteen minutes later I cut 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: my hands. So I guess the universe is trying to 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: tell me get out of the shop, now go home. 141 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: It's Friday. Take the day. But um, that was my week. 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: That's how That's how my weekended. It did end on 143 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: a positive note, though. The sixteen Chevy traverse that I've 144 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: been laboring over for the past four weeks is fixed. Uh. 145 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: To recap. This was a sixteen traverse that had set 146 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: a pile of codes a half a dozen or so 147 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: fault codes, everything from bank one catalytic converter issues, lean 148 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: fuel trim codes, and several other things that it reacted 149 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: to from a result of a leaking power steering hose 150 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: until the two censor connector and general Motors wanted to 151 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: replace the entire wiring harness, and in doing so, I 152 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't justify it, not in a forty mile vehicle 153 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: six going on seven years old, just for one connector 154 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: that was soaked with power steering fluid. I cut it back. 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: I found a connector and UH, replace that connector. And 156 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: we were rubbing EVAP monitors. If you recall the last 157 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: time we spoke the EVAP monitor, I couldn't get it 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: to go. That vehicle went three and twenty six miles 159 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: before it ran the EVAP monitor. It took that long 160 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: under the right conditions, even though we were trying to 161 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, digit along with correct level of fuel and 162 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, ambient temperature starts and doing proper things. And 163 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: I guess my one conclusion I came to is that 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: the newer the vehicle, the more complicated the emission controls, 165 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: the more complicated the psychology and the methodology of what 166 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: they're trying to achieve, and it just made me think 167 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: of you know, there's just no easy path anymore. It's 168 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: all technology driven until that vehicle feels like passing that 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: when it passes. So but that car is fixed down 170 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: the road and we did it without doing a wiring 171 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: harness and um, you know, customers happy. So that's on 172 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: its way. Um, that's what I got. That was my week. 173 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: It started good, it ended good. You know what, I 174 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: still got my hand. I can still move all my fingers. 175 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Um didn't even bleed. It just sort of split the 176 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: top of the hand. And what can I tell you. 177 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna draw a little I was gonna draw 178 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: two eyes and a nose on it, and I could 179 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: make like a little puppet. But that's a whole another story. 180 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: So listen, let me pull over and take the pause 181 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: and we can come back and kick the garage doors 182 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: wide open eight five zero nine zero zero, run in 183 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: any of the car. Doctor, I'll be back right after this. 184 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Need advice on how to maintaining that 185 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: classic g t O ron is the guy five five 186 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero. Here's ra Hey, let's 187 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: get over to Jim and Delaware ninety four Ranger Jim. 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How can I help? Uh? 189 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: I have a Ranger four oh runs like a top rock. 190 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: Only problem is when I shut it off, leave a 191 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: step for a minute or so as I work. When 192 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: I go to turn it back on, it check ims 193 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: and light comes on and it runs real rough. Uh. 194 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: If I leave it set there and idol for a 195 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: little bit, it'll be fine. I'll drive it maybe a 196 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: mile or so and it'll start to clear out and 197 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: runs like a top. Ever since I have two codes 198 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: that that I off of. This isn't the five thousand 199 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: dollar code reader on nine? Okay? And do those do 200 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: those codes set consistently, meaning meaning if you were to 201 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: clear them, do they come back? Yeah? Okay? Um, so 202 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: they come back on a regular continuous basis. Okay, it'll 203 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: run fine after after after a short period of time, right, 204 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: and mileage is good. But it just mops up on me. 205 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: All right. So those fault codes are for rich limits 206 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: on the O two sensors right and left bank have 207 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: been reached. It's telling you that the PCM is seeing 208 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: maximum O two centsor operating rich limit. So it's seeing 209 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: a rich fuel condition that's causing this. Do you have 210 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: the ability to check fuel Do you have the ability 211 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: to check fuel pressure? Jim? Um, it would be nice 212 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: if we could get a gauge on the system and 213 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: then does it hold residual pressure? Is it bleeding down? 214 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: This should have also, this should have an auxiliary fuel 215 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: pressure regulator in the rail. And I wonder if the 216 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if the fuel pressure regulator is ruptured allowing 217 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: it to bleed off. And the reason you're seeing, the 218 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: reason you're seeing, um, the rough running is because it's 219 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: it's just it's just drawing fuel. Yeah, right, So I 220 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: wonder if, um, you know, do we have a do 221 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: we have a ruptured uh fuel pressure diaphragm regulator in 222 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: the rail? Do we have a bad canister purge valve? Okay? 223 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Do we have a bad mass airflow sensor? You know, 224 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: something's driving this rich So we've got to try and 225 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: diagnose this without any exotic tools. One of the things 226 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: I would like to One of the things I would 227 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: like to try is a four oh and ninety four 228 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: should run if we unplug the mass airflow sensor. Alright, 229 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: it'll it'll it'll run in a bypass if you unplug 230 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: the mass airflow and go to are at the truck, 231 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: does it start and run? If it starts and runs, 232 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that man's air is reaching its maximum 233 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: rich limit or I'm sorry, if it's reporting uh incorrect 234 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: air causing the engine to reach maximum rich limit. Does 235 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: this vehicle sit for any length of time? Do you 236 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: just overnight? And then it's I have a little business 237 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: and I'm here for ten minutes, that I'm going to 238 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: the next job for fifteen minutes, and I'm here for 239 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's stopping on off and on off and on. 240 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: So I just let the If I let the truck 241 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: run still run all day, it's it's problem. It's only 242 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: when you shut it off, yep, and then go to 243 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: start it. Okay, So then my question is and then 244 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: I guess I could also have do I have a 245 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: bad inject or? Do I have an injector staying stuck open? 246 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you the first thing I'd like, The 247 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: first thing I'd love to see is I'd love to 248 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: a fuel pressure on this truck. And when the problem happens, 249 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: does it hold residual fuel pressure or does it bleed off? 250 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: And you know when it bleeds off? Is it bleeding off? 251 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Because if it has a pressure regulator in the rail, 252 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: which it has to have one somewhere, is that ruptured? 253 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: Or do I have a fuel injector physically stuck open? 254 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: That makes sense and it's bleeding off fuel. I bet 255 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: if you go ahead, I was gonna say, I bet 256 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: if you let me, let me say this. I bet 257 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: if you hold your foot right to the floor, as 258 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: if you were clearing out a flooded engine, I bet 259 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: it would start faster. You could try that. Does it smoke? 260 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Is there black smoke that comes out of this when 261 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: it when it does finally start? No, not at all, 262 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: not at all? What what what happened? Uh? Injectors claimed, 263 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: you know at a shop where they run the junk 264 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: through it with that um Well, before I did that, 265 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: I'd spend an hour of the shop's time explain the 266 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: problem to them, because it sounds like it's a problem 267 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: that can be found. You know, half the problem with 268 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: diagnostics is getting a direction and the ability to reproduce 269 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: the issue. This issue, this issue is reproducible. I would 270 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: go in and explain it to them like you've explained 271 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: it to me, and request, can you can they verify 272 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: proper fuel pressure throughout the operating range of the engine 273 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: and residual fuel pressure meaning when you shut the key off, 274 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: fuel pressure on that is somewhere between thirty and thirty 275 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: three p s. I if I call correctly, and it 276 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: should hold that residual pressure for up to twenty minutes, 277 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: and I bet it drops like a stone. If it 278 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: doesn't drop like a stone and it holds, it holds 279 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: the same fuel pressure key on, engine off if it's 280 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: within five pounds. So if it's twenty seven thirty pounds 281 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: something like that, and it stays there and when you 282 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: go to started, fuel pressure doesn't budge. This is not 283 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: a fuel pressure issue. We can move on. Then I'm 284 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna start to think about it. Then I'm gonna start 285 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: to think about a mass airflow sensor that for some reason, 286 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: is that a calibration or creating an issue? And you 287 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: know that can be replaced, That can be replaced, Sure, 288 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: all of it can be replaced. You know, finding parts 289 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: might be a little bit of a test. The vehicles 290 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: almost thirty years old. Um no, listen, I'm just I'm 291 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: just saying that finding parts is an issue. I'm not saying, 292 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: don't fix it, you know. And the reason I was 293 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: asking about does the vehicle sit or has it sad 294 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: for any length of time? Did the vehicle sit and 295 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: you started driving it recently and that's when the problem developed. 296 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It's sat for years and years 297 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: and years, and then I got it running maybe uh 298 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: maybe two years ago, ran like a top and then 299 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: it just developed this recently. Yeah. And one other thing, 300 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: one other thing. I don't know if this had a 301 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: thing to do with it. I had to I had 302 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: the I had a stroke run. I'm sorry you had 303 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: the the AH for for what thermostat. I had the 304 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: thermostat replaced because it was because when I started running, 305 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: it was on the low side and then uh sometimes 306 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: now when I started up, it'll run for a long time, 307 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, on the low side of the normal, and 308 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: then it will jump back up. Does that mean anything? 309 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: Before I were to consider that, Jim, I would want 310 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: to verify that by scan tool. I don't want to 311 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: trust the gauge on the vehicle, you know, the gauge 312 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: on the vehicle, the accuracy that gauge. It could be 313 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: off by five degrees and cause a wide swee upon 314 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: the temp gage. I would rather see if by scan 315 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: tool temperature is something to consider. But let's do some 316 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: basics there. Let's look at that, Let's look at fuel 317 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: pressure and go from there. Call me back, let me 318 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: know I can help you with some more. I'm run 319 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: on any of the car Doctor, will be back right 320 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. We're on any of the car Doctor. 321 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: You know, just real quick for our previous caller regarding 322 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: the ranger from Delaware. For Jim Uh. You know, cooling 323 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: temperature is of a great deal of importance. Even on 324 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: an older vehicle, it doesn't matter. We recently had an 325 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: O nine Honda in the shop that was having issues 326 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: with a check engine light getting set. It was setting 327 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: a coolant tempt fault code and when we looked at it, 328 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: we came to the conclusion that it was missing the 329 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: mark by six degrees. Now, it wasn't something that we 330 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: could see on a on the on the dash gauge 331 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: to get the dash gauge didn't budge um in that 332 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: particular case, and you know, all dash gauges seem to 333 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: have a different degree of sensitivity. My point is, looking 334 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: at the scan tool, we were able to determine that 335 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: it was operating below temp um, you know, according to 336 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: spec and as a matter of fact, to verify the 337 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: spec beyond the information systems we have, we went at 338 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: the motorad dot com or or or go to UM 339 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: motor rad dot com has some really great solid thermostat 340 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: information there as well as specs of when and how 341 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: they opened and um they also will tell you, uh, 342 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, single pellet, double pellet, all sorts of construction 343 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: information of a thermostats and when you're looking for a 344 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: lot of the down and dirty uh motorat dot com, 345 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. But we put a motor 346 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: rat stat in it that vehicle was fixed off by 347 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: six degrees setting a fault code. So um, you know, 348 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: only could tell by looking at a scancel. We don't. 349 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: We don't trust the dash gates. Just very very important. 350 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: Let's get over to the phones again. Let's go over 351 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: to Lisa and Illinois. Oh eight Lincoln, Lisa, what happened? 352 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: It sounds like the engine went bye bye. What can 353 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: I do for you? Trying to find out? Once it 354 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: was lurching and then it stopped and took it to 355 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: a mechanic. The UM indicated that they thought it was 356 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: the starter at the starter and then what they told 357 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: me was that they tried to manually turn the engine 358 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: crank it by him and couldn't. Therefore it was locked 359 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: up in it's a piece of now, thank you. Um so, 360 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: so you know, just tell me the story. Were you 361 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: just driving and stop and go traffic or highway speed 362 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: or something and it just stopped just running errand and 363 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: went to a dental appointment in it died in the 364 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: parking lot, but it restarted and then um kind of 365 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: chugged and then died again. Before that, there weren't any 366 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: problems with it. Any Any recent service worked unto it, 367 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: not other than oil changes, no other service work. How 368 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: long how long prior had the had the oil change 369 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: been done? I'm not exactly certain that it was. It 370 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: was over the recommended uh date of change that there 371 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: were there were weren't a lot of miles on it, 372 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: did they happen to say? And you know, and my 373 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: concern would be that you had had the oil change 374 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: the day before, and did they put the proper amount 375 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: of oil in it, uh, you know, et cetera, or 376 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: could they have put an oil filter on it that 377 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: leaked that was defective. But it doesn't sound like it 378 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: sounds like the oil, the oil in the filter had 379 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: been done three or four or five months prior. And 380 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: then here you are with an engine that just seized 381 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: up in a parking lot. Um you know any did 382 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: the shop say anything about any vital fluids missing, low 383 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: on oil, low on coolant, anything like that. It was 384 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: a little critically low and was not sick. Okay, And 385 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: how many miles are on this car? Guess what? You 386 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: know what? You know what? The next one? You know what? 387 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: The next question is what color? What? What color? It's white? No? No, 388 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: what color is the next car? Are gonna be? Yeah? 389 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know, if if they if they if 390 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: they tried hand cranking it and it doesn't move, they're 391 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: saying it seased. You know, at at two d thousand miles, 392 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: you start to lay out the dollars. You know, in 393 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: your head, an engine is easily four to six thousand dollars. 394 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: What kind of shape is the rest of the body 395 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: and the vehicles fourteen years old? Yeah, the rest of 396 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: the bodies almost perfect except for scratch along the side 397 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: that my daughter did you know that? The concern is 398 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: that you'd have to put conservatively, you're gonna put oh, 399 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: I bet you four to six grand and an engine. 400 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: Then you've got to ask yourself, is that the original transmission? 401 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Is it the original trans Yeah? So you know, would 402 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: you put six thousand dollars into a two thousand mile, 403 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: fourteen year old car with an original transmission? If the 404 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: transmission failed after the engine, would you fix that too? Yeah? 405 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: I see what you mean. You know, it starts, it 406 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: starts to snowball. Now, if if if you go out 407 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: and look at new vehicles and the vehicle that you 408 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: choose to give you a little bit of empowerment here 409 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: if I can, if if the next vehicle that you're 410 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: looking at, is you wanted something the class of a 411 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: Lincoln MK, you know, and and m k X. You 412 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: know you're gonna go out and spend forty sixty grand, 413 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, maybe fifteen grand to re put this car 414 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: back on the road with a fresh engine, a fresh 415 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: trans you know, go through breaks, tire, suspension, Maybe it's 416 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: worth it, but you know, you gotta play. What if 417 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: you really gotta play? What if you're Lisa, you know, 418 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: what if this breaks? What if that breaks? Is it 419 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: worth it? What? What you're what you're describing to me 420 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: is a very reasonable explanation of an engine that failed. 421 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: All right, you're saying, you're saying all the right things. 422 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: They're saying all the right things. You know. It's it's 423 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's tough. It's not your fault. It's 424 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: not because the oil was overdue by time? How overdue 425 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: by time? Was the oil? Uh? By time? Yeah? It 426 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: was over was it overdo it all? It was just 427 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: a little overdue by miles? What's what's a little five miles? Yeah? 428 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: Yeahs isn't gonna do it. So it's not your fault. 429 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: So get get rid of the get rid of the guilt, 430 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, get rid of the guilt. I could tell that. Yeah, well, 431 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: and that's you know, so if I were if I 432 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: were talking, you know, if we're having the conversation and 433 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: it's it's limited means and and and so forth. The 434 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: next thing you have to think about is do you 435 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: do um? You know? Do you do uh? Is it 436 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: time to look at something that will give you a 437 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: fixed exposure in terms of do you go out? And 438 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: is it something in a lease that gives you the 439 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: ability to you know, plan Hey, here's your projected expenses 440 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: for the next two or three years till you get 441 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: yourself back on your feet financially, whatever the case might be. 442 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: If that's the issue, and you know, that's just something 443 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: to think about. Um yeah, I mean, listen, you know 444 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: what cars are a lifestyle. I don't I don't care 445 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: if you live in Illinois, New Jersey, California, Florida, or 446 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: any point in between. All Right, it sounds like I'm 447 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna guess here, so you know, let me stick my 448 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: neck out. Um. You know, maybe you're a single mom 449 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: or you know, you're on a limited budget, something along 450 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: those lines. Retired Okay, all right, so you're on well 451 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: but you get my point, you get my point, right, 452 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: Um yeah, you know it's it's you're you're you're retired, 453 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: you're on a budget, you're trying to hold down expenses. 454 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: If if you know it's it's it's real simple. Look 455 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: look at your income level over the next couple of 456 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: days and go, I've got you know, if I if 457 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: you can cut two to four free from you know, 458 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: the budget and say this is going to go towards 459 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: the car every month, I guess what you're now going 460 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: to enjoy that lifestyle. Okay, But but the issue becomes 461 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: you've got to find the right car, the lowest down payment. 462 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: You've got to realize that this is money you're never 463 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: going to get back. You're gonna go from being you know, 464 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: you haven't had a car payment and what probably ten years, Okay, 465 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: so now you're gonna go back to having a car 466 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: payment forever. So you've got to think about that. They 467 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: told me that they had done the full inspection, everything 468 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: was perfect, and I would be assured of being able 469 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: to put a whole lot more miles on it than 470 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: I have, and that didn't happen. Can I understand, biore? Beware, 471 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: but I don't know enough about cars or car engines 472 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: to know whether or not, which is why I called 473 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: find out whether or not was worth towing somewhere else 474 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: and getting a second opinion or whatever you call it 475 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: with that car, having it put on the computer system. Right, 476 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'm gonna hold you over. Let 477 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: me just hold you over real quick. Let's let's uh, 478 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: let's let's let's pick that up when I get back, 479 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: because I don't want to rush through this. I'm running 480 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: anady in the car. Doctor, we'll be back with Lisa 481 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: from Illinois. Right after this, we'm back the need of 482 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: the car doctor. Lisa from Illinois. You're still there, eight Lincoln. Yeah, 483 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was caught up in the commercials. That's okay, 484 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: that's okay. At least we know we're writing good commercials. Um, 485 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: so you know they're Your question before we took the 486 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: pause was does it do you get a toad somewhere 487 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: for a second opinion? So let me ask you this question. 488 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: You're you're a retired single mom, right who's been working 489 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: on the car all this time? Is it? Is it 490 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: quick loudes? Is it one regular guy? Is it you 491 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: know somebody? A couple of different shops? What's going on? 492 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: Different places? But I mean I think they're reputable. There's 493 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: done business. It was like, you know, a regular loop 494 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: company business. And then then was at Um it was 495 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: the same thing. So let me ask you this question, 496 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: why do you why do you go to two or 497 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: three different repair shops because of my schedule. It was 498 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: not repairs. I didn't have repairs on it, but to 499 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: get the oil changed, that was only because of my 500 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: schedule when they could get me in, right know, And 501 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: I get that and listen. One of the things I 502 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: always like to point to is I think auto repair 503 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: is really important. It's to me. It's to me, it 504 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: ranks right up there with you pick a doctor, you 505 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: pick a lawyer and accountant, and you pick a mechanic, 506 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: and you know, one person gets than e. Lise's car, 507 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: Elese's cars because the car is actually to me. You know, 508 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: it's so important that it's safe, that it's reliable, and 509 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: that you're dealing with somebody that you have a relationship with. 510 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things I just want 511 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: to ask you to consider when we end our call 512 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: today is you know, do you want to be a 513 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: name or a number? Do you want to be in 514 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: a place where they Yeah, you want to be a name? Right? 515 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: You go to the You probably go to the same 516 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: doctor for years and years. You like their bedside man, 517 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: or you like the way they explain things. You trust them. 518 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: There's a relationship there, right, And I think that's really 519 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: to me my opinion from my corner of the world, 520 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a lot to be said about auto repair. 521 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: And you know, do you tew this somewhere else? I 522 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: don't know what that's gonna get you. I think that's 523 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, going to kind of bring it along the 524 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: lines of um uh, you know, you're just gonna have 525 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: to hear the same story all over again, and then 526 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 1: do you put another five six thousand dollar engineer it 527 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: all over again, and you know, and what kind of 528 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: shapes the rest of the vehicle and do this. Okay, 529 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: let's end it here. Do this. Go look at your budget. 530 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: How much car can Lisa affard, how much can Lisa 531 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: put down on a down payment, how that will affect 532 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: her monthly budget, and then who's gonna work on it, 533 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: and where you're gonna purchase that car from used or 534 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: know what's out there. There's a lot of issues with 535 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: buying cars right now because of the pandemic and ship shortages. 536 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: But you know, make an intelligent decision, not emotional, based 537 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: on what's in Lease's wheelhouse at this point, and then 538 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: we can talk about it next week or the week 539 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: after if you need more advice. But you need to 540 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: get some numbers together in a direction in your head. Yes, 541 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like this vehicle needs an engine and it's 542 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: not worth putting money into based on its age um 543 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: because of the potential of other things that could go 544 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: wrong that you may or may not be financially prepared 545 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: to take care of as well. Two thousand miles. He 546 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: did pretty good. Call me back, we'll talk about it. Zero. 547 00:31:54,560 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Tut burning the car doctor, 548 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Kennon, Wisconsin. I mean, I met 549 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: Subishi with no headlights ken Welcome aboard, sir. How can 550 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: I help? Yes, I've turned the headlights on one day 551 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: to the car. Well, they didn't work. So I went 552 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: out there and I checked the fuse. The high and 553 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: low beams didn't work, so I checked the few as 554 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: all the other lights worked, the running lights and all that. 555 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: I wiggled the socket on each light and they came on. 556 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: But the sockets were very hot to the touch. And 557 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: I found where the black ground wire on the driver's 558 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: side it melted the socket itself, but not the insulation 559 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: on the wires. Are those are they standard bulbs? Can? 560 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: Or they are they? They're the HB two so they're 561 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: high output bulb, Yeah, fifty sixty five, but I guess 562 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: they're called nine zero zero threes now right? But are they? 563 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Are they? Are they any kind of a fancy aftermarket 564 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: high output bulb? Where they have standard. This is this 565 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: original one. Okay, so you put you put connectors and 566 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 1: bulbs in it, and or wouldn't put in because because 567 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: those still work. I put it new socket on from 568 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: O'Reilly and it works fine. Is that from a bad ground, 569 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: dirty old connection? Is it normal to be very hot 570 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: to the touch? Well, it's there. They are hot to 571 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: the touch. They can be hot to the touch. You've 572 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: gone this. You're talking about the socket itself, right, They 573 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: do get hot. The bacon light gets hot and it 574 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: gets brittle. What what I would tell you if listen, 575 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: let's do it like this, if it had a bad ground, okay, 576 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: what would happen to current flow through the circuit? Well, 577 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: that's what I think. I think. You know there has 578 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: got this eighteen gage wire on which is really thin. 579 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: I think only one strand was probably grounding. So did 580 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: you are you saying you? Are you saying you repaired 581 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: the ground from the broken wire? You put a solid 582 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: ground and now is it? Yeah? I replaced the whole 583 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: three prong prong socket use to use the old bulbs. 584 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: It works fine? Is it still? Is it still to 585 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: the touch? How that is it? Just? Is it just 586 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: so old that would cause this well, is it still 587 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: hot to the touch or since you changed the socket 588 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: it's working. No? No, that one's cool, but the other 589 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: one I didn't change because the socket didn't know. Uh, 590 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: you know what. Can It's probably a question better suited 591 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: for a longer time. But yes, broken wires can create 592 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: electrical issues, so you've probably solved it. Check the other 593 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: one and you might want to replace that as well. 594 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: Appreciate the call. I'm on a na of the car. 595 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Doctor of Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you