1 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: It is continuing coverage of the twenty twenty six NFL 2 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: combine by from Indianapolis on the Steelers Audio Network, presented 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: by First National Bank. Can your bank do that? Welcome 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: to FNB. 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: Let's get started. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Member FDIC iron Workers Local Union number three. We don't 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: go to the office, We build it. Schneider Downs discover 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: the value of big thinking with a personal focus at 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: Schneiderdowns dot com, your neighborhood Ford store. The Ford F 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: one fifty is the official truck of the Pittsburgh Steelers 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: and by usteal Mine Melted Made in the USA. 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: Bonus hour of the Drive here live on Radio Row, 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: our ongoing combine coverage on Steelers Nation Radio and joining 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: us to kick off our third bonus hour here on 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: this Wednesday. He's like the mayor of Radio Row here. 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the voice of the Indianapolis cults. Matt, Matt, 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: what's up? Man? 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Welcome? 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: Thanks for my people, Yeah, yes, thanks having to have 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: us right, good hostly. Yeah, I know we've had these 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: conversations with you before. We have these conversations. It feels 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: like every year, you know, when we're all driving out 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: here together. We hope this thing stays here forever. I know. 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: Now they've been doing the two year contracts, so we 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: know at least the next two and twenty seven and 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: twenty eight are going to be here. But Indy is 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: just such a perfect town for this, you. 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: Know, as it relates to this, Yeah, I mean any 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: anywhere would be just because it's just so compact and 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: everything is so navigable, if you will, downtown Indianapolis. But 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 4: the bad analogy that I've used when it comes to, 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: you know, the NFL always kind of flirting with the 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: idea to take the combine somewhere else. 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: And take it out of Indianapolis. 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: It's like that the younger brother that's always trying to 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: impress his older brother, right, always trying to hang out 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: the older brother's friends. It's like, how we got to 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: be finally to the point, Ray, if you're the NFL, 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: as the older brother, you finally got to be to 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: the point where it's like, yeah, my younger brother's pretty 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: cool and he does things the right way, and he's 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: cool enough to hang out with the older kids and 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: my friends. Like are we are we to that point 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: where the NFL has just flirted with this idea so 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: for so long, and the NFL or I should say, 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 4: the city of Indianapolis just continues to deliver and give 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: the NFL what it wants, and you know, they continue 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: to evolve this event. Where can we just finally stop, 49 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: you know, having all these other conversations even bring up anymore? Right, 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: all these like you know, empty threats that we're gonna 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 4: you know, turn it into the draft and take it 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: to different cities. I mean, you still have to perform 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: things that the combine is all about, like the medical test. 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: How does anybody else do that except for downtown Indianapolis 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: when you literally have four hospitals within three miles. 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: That was curious about that? Is there a ton of 57 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: hospitals ton? I know they prepare for it every year. Absolutely, yeah. 58 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: And you've got Lucas Oil Stadium that's literally connected to 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: where we are right now, inside the Indiana Convention Center. 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: But I mean, like such a convention city. 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: It absolutely is. And when stuff like this is in town, 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: it takes over the town. Right, the Big Ten tournament 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 4: and obviously n C DOAA Final Fours that the Final 64 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: four is here, guys, I don't know if you realize this, 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: The Final four in april's here for the ninth time. 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: Wow, it really Yeah, I was here for in twenty ten. 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a reason for that. 68 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: I mean every year we host the ND five hundred, 69 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 4: and that's the biggest sporting event, one day sporting event 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 4: in the world. We've had you know, National Championship Games 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: and the US Super Bowls and the US Swimming and 72 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: Diving Championships at Lucas Oil Stadium just two summers ago, 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: which was incredibly cool. 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: We've had All Star Games here. 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: So if it is a big event, literally it has 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: been to the city of Indianapolis, and I think we 77 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: do things pretty well because of how the city is well, 78 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: how the city comes together, the civic leaders come together, 79 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: and the sports you know, the Pacers and the Colts, 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: they come together. But just the forethought of whoever playing 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: city and then went like in the nineteen eighties, before 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: the Colts even came to town, whoever came up with 83 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: the idea, we're going to go all in on sports 84 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: and it's going to serve our city and our economy. Well, 85 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: I mean, tip of the cap to those politicians because 86 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 4: it just continues to be one of the greatest sports 87 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: towns in America. 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: And I forget what the number is, but it's a 89 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: very high percentage of the league can actually drive here, 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: which was one of the reasons it was picked originally. Too. 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: I think it's a crossroads of America, like eighteen or 92 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: twenty cities if you think about it, that are six 93 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: seven hours or less, no question about it. That super flat. 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: It makes it easier get around. 95 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: It's kind of annoying though, because I think the Steelers 96 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: obviously are a great example of this, but I mean 97 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: the Colts when they play a home game, you do 98 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: see a lot of representation from the Apostle. 99 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure easy to get to. 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: The airport's easy to get to, and it's very navigable too, 101 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: and it's you know, held the Buffalo Bills. 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: Two years ago. We played the Bills. 103 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: And I had a rare night out with I mean, 104 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: you can you guys can understand, had a rare night 105 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: out with my wife, had a babysitter with the kids. 106 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 4: So we come downtown the night before the Bills are 107 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 4: in town. We can't find a seat at any restaurant downtown. 108 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 4: There's Bills fans freaking everywhere. And they drove in, you know, 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 4: seven and a half eight hours because they could. It 110 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 4: was just a different environment to come watch their team. 111 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: Because once you're here, you park your car and you 112 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: don't have to drive, you walk anywhere. Restaurants we never get. 113 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: It's it's it's incredible. 114 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: I would love you have to go outside half the 115 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: time to get to the restaurant. There's all these tunnels, 116 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: and you know. 117 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: I would love to come stages. Yeah, and then there's 118 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: seventeen different five star steakhouses on every single corner. 119 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, what kind of influence do you have 120 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: on the shrimp that comes around on the trays? And 121 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: when should we expect it? I got shut out last year, 122 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: and I'm still kind of bitter about it, right, the 123 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: kind that's usually a tomorrow tomorrow thing, I think. 124 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, the CIB always has a little tricks up their sleeve. 125 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, the Colt's mascot would walk around, Yeah, you had. 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: We were in the corner last year and I got 127 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: shut out. The CIB. 128 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: You have visit Indy, you have the Indiana Sports Corp. 129 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: That again, they all come together to make sure you 130 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: guys are at least sample well taken care of, and 131 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: you come away with, you know, good perceptions about. 132 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: Downtown you know, we love it and we sing the 133 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: praises every time we're here. It's our spiritual home for 134 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: the end of February is what we call it. Come 135 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: my people, Matt. Let's let's talk a little bit about 136 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: the Colts. Obviously great start last year and then things 137 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: fell off, particularly after the Daniel Jones injury. Do you 138 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: think it is a foregone conclusion that he will be 139 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: a cult again in twenty six Yeah. 140 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 4: You know, Chris Ballard and Shane Steikin spoke yesterday and 141 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: on Tuesday, and they all kind of talked in the 142 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 4: present tense as if Daniel Jones is gonna be we 143 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,559 Speaker 4: want Daniel Jones to be our quarterback and the short 144 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: term and the long term after what he showed those 145 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 4: first ten games. And that's the thing I mean, for 146 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: anybody following the Colts, it was just such a tale 147 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 4: of two different seasons last year. I mean, the first 148 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: ten weeks they're eight and two, leading the NFL in 149 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 4: points per game right around. 150 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: Three yeah, I remember they played the Steelers. The numbers 151 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: were insane, almost four hundred yards per game. And not 152 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: to get too like nerdy on you guys, but like 153 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: the points per possession. Oh great points per drive point. 154 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: You're not getting too nerdy on us. 155 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: You're speaking of language. It's like ridiculous number, three thousand 156 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: words on it. Yeah, he puts together a. 157 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: Three thousand words stat pack forevery I've read that stuff. 158 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: You better believe I had that dialed in. Was that 159 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: week nine or week ten? 160 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: Somewhere near? What's so crazy? I was just in the 161 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: bathroom with Aaron Negler from the Packers. He's like, I 162 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: found your stat pack before the Packer week, and I 163 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: was like the smartest analyst in Green Bay. 164 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: For Williamson's Uh, you're definitely doing it right there. But 165 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, so you get the idea. The first 166 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: ten weeks, now they weren't playing great teams, but they 167 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: were beating the crap out of bad teams, and that's 168 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 4: what you're supposed to do with bad teams. They had 169 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 4: a bunch of wins by like twenty plus points, and 170 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: then Daniel Jones I think the first line of demarcation 171 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: was that Steelers game where Watt and high Smith kind 172 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: of took things over, got a bunch of sacks, a 173 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: couple of strip sacks and turnovers and takeaways that really 174 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: turned that game on its head for the Colts, but 175 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: then things really changed. 176 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: In Berlin in Germany. 177 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: The Colts won that game in overtime against the Falcons, 178 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: but we all think that's the game where Jones came 179 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 4: up with the fractured fibula, and then he wasn't the same, 180 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: the offense wasn't the same. Things took on different dynamics. 181 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: Players weren't utilized the same way because of Jones' lack 182 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: of mobility, so they lost their last seven games. Jones 183 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: tears his achilles in week fourteen. The running game falls 184 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: off a cliff. Jonathan Taylor went from average in like 185 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: six yards per carry in the first ten to like 186 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 4: three point three the last seven. 187 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: So he was like the forefront of offensive player of 188 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: the year conversation for the first half of the season, 189 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: no question about it. 190 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: And you know, Tyler Warren's numbers went down the last 191 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 4: seven games of the season. But then on top of that, 192 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: their schedule really heated up. Right, They lost their last 193 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: seven games, but they played to end the year. They 194 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: played six straight teams that won at least eleven games, 195 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: so the schedule heated up. Defensively, they experienced a lot 196 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: of injuries, so it was just bad timing. 197 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: Right. 198 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: They are the unfortunately the first team in the history 199 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: of the NFL to start a year eight and two 200 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 4: or better and finished the season with a losing record 201 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 4: and missed the playoffs. 202 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: So you talk about just a gut punch or on 203 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: trade for gard. 204 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: That doesn't, you know, provide immediate dividends because of his 205 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: lack of availability. So yeah, it's just I mean, the 206 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: sense of urgency going into last year, when they had 207 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: missed the playoffs four straight years, was high. Now, I 208 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: don't know what you call it now, right. 209 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: Hard to blame anyone now, it's just. 210 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: Just boiling over because you're talking about five straight years 211 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 4: and guys like Jonathan Taylor. I mean, he's got three 212 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: seasons of over at least fourteen hundred yards and he 213 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: hasn't made the playoffs in any of those years. So 214 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: it's just they're still trying to figure out quarterback. I 215 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: think that they will in terms of this contract with 216 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, but their nucleus of players has been together 217 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: now for quite some time, and the best definition of 218 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: where they've been as a franchise, I just call it purgatory, right, because. 219 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: They've kind of been about the most average team in 220 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: the way. It's just since left. 221 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: Their team is I think, for the most part, built 222 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: together or put together pretty well. But you know, they 223 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 4: missed the playoffs five years in a row, but in 224 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: four of those five years they've won at least eight games. 225 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: It's like exactly where you don't want to be right 226 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: because they're they're too good to bought them out, but 227 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 4: because of lack of personnel and difference makers at a 228 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: couple of key spots, they just haven't been good enough 229 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: to break through. And what's another gut punch, if you will, 230 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: from last year is that they missed the ploffs in 231 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 4: a year where the Chiefs don't make it, the Bagels 232 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: don't make it, the Ravens don't make it, and those 233 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 4: teams have quarterback stability and franchise stability, and I don't 234 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: think they're going anywhere. 235 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: So one time when they did have the high pick 236 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: was the Anthony Richardson selection. And assuming Jones is back, 237 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: do we think Richardson's a foregone conclusion to be elsewhere 238 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: at some point? And I know he hasn't been great, 239 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: but boy's been hard a hard time stay on the field. 240 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: He has had a lot of luck. He didn't have 241 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: any you know, I didn't have a lot of starts 242 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: in college. Could you foresee a year or two from 243 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: now that the Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold early 244 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: pick he resurrects his career with the forty nine ers 245 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: or something. 246 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, my gut says, because they talk about 247 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 4: you know, just as I said, you know, they they're 248 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: speaking when they talk about Daniel Jones and Alec Pearce 249 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: in the present tents, they're also talking about Anthony richardson 250 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: the present tints too. So I still think he's going 251 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 4: to be on this team next year. I still think 252 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: he's got a spot and a place. Now he's got 253 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: to continue to first rehab and come off of this 254 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: weird eye injury that he suffered pregame before a Week 255 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: six game against the Cardinals at home. Just the yeah, well, 256 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: it was the apparatus that the workout band was on, 257 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 4: like a hard object, a hard structure, metal object. 258 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 2: Hit him in the eye and just hit him in 259 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: the eye. 260 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: I think when the dust settled on the whole ordeal, 261 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: he was lucky to have an eye based on where 262 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: it hit him and how hard it hit him and 263 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: things like that. So first, get totally clear of that, 264 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: which I think he's on the right path for that. 265 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 4: And then secondly, just my view is you drafted him 266 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: top five for a reason. Right he's oozing with potential, 267 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: and he's still under contract. He's got one more year, 268 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: and then you've got a decision to make on him 269 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 4: May first for that fifth year option. So my thought is, 270 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: as long as he's on your team, pour in every 271 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: resource you have into him to see how good he 272 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: can be and what he can do, because I think 273 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: the worst case scenario for the Colts when it comes 274 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: to where they're at right now with Jones and Richardson 275 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: and the hierarchy of their quarterback depth chart is not 276 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: that he It's not that he wouldn't work out for 277 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: the Colts. He's just you don't want to see him 278 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: work out somewhere, absolutely. So my thing is keep him 279 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: on your team, pour in every resource you have into him, 280 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: help him as best you can, and then when you 281 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: have to make a hard decision on him after his 282 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: contract is up, either this year or after the twenty 283 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: twenty seven season, then make a decision on where you're 284 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: at and how much you want to continue to invest 285 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 4: further into Richardson. 286 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: I go one more for you, and this is very 287 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: Steeler related. What would take for the Steelers get Michael Pivin. 288 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you got some wide receivers that 289 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: we think we look good in the black and gold. 290 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Pierce gets franchised, does Pittman go or is 291 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: it a seventh round pick or is it a mid 292 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: round pick? Or does he get cut or the same thing. 293 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: They continue to talk about Michael Pittman Junior and the 294 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: present tense. 295 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: They like who he is and what his value is. 296 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: And you know, a couple of years ago when he 297 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: got his contract, he was paid in the ballpark of 298 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: a number one wide receiver. You know my analyst, Rick 299 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: Venturrey on radio, you know, former former ball coach and 300 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 4: has been around the game for forty plus years. He 301 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: likes to call Michael Pittman Junior a tight end and 302 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: a wide receiver's body. Right, he's kind of middle of 303 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: the field between the numbers. Guys, really physical, really kind 304 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: of bought into the culture of the Colts identity on offense, 305 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: really bought into the running game. Willing blocker, really physical guy, 306 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: likes to talk some junk on the outside, but he's 307 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: not a huge like he's not a burner, he's not 308 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: a huge yards per catch guy. He's going to catch 309 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: those twelve to fifteen yard passes that you know, keep 310 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: the Colts on schedule and get first downs, but it's 311 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: mainly middle of the field. So my thing again, like 312 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: if you get rid of Michael Pittman June and you 313 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: say Alec Pierce is our true number one, and we're 314 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: gonna invest you know, twenty five plus million dollars into 315 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: him and pay Daniel Jones between thirty five and forty million, Like, 316 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 4: you still have guys on the roster, but somebody's got 317 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: to be number two, right, Like if you're gonna get 318 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: rid of Pittman, or who you gonna get, right, you 319 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like it's it's like we're all 320 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: so conditioned to just like pun on guys, But how 321 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: are you gonna fill their spot in the roster? 322 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: How are you gonna get their best? You don't have 323 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: a first round pick hundred percent? 324 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: So I think Michael Pittman Junior has a lot of value, 325 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: maybe more so value to the Colts. He does other 326 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: teams and I think the Colts really recognize that. Plus 327 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: he's just he's a great team guy. He's really kind 328 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 4: of put down a lot of roots in Indianapolis, likes 329 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: being here. So I again, my my gut feeling is 330 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: that Pittman is gonna be on this roster next season. 331 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: Last one for you. No first round pick from the 332 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: Sauce trade. What's the what's the draft approach? What are 333 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: the needs that you still got to come away with? 334 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: Well, big picture offseason needs for the Colts. They got 335 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: to address their pass rush last season. In the off 336 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: season was it's all about Hey, our pass defense last 337 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: year and you know, speaking of twenty twenty four really 338 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 4: fell off a cliff. So they addressed that big time 339 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: in the off season, Cam buying them, Charvariusward. You know, 340 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: they had a bunch of guys get hurt. So here 341 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: comes like justin Wally in the third round out of Minnesota. 342 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: They didn't stop there. As you said earlier, it comes 343 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: to the same right now. 344 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: Wally was really playing well in training camp and I 345 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: thought it was gonna, you know, find a home within 346 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: that defense somewhere. But now they got to address the 347 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: pass rush. They got three defensive ends who are free agents, 348 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: Taekwon Lewis, Samson, Ebacom and Quitty Pay. Unfortunately, those three 349 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: guys last year combined for just nine sacks and not 350 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 4: a whole lot of disruption. So it's really never a 351 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: good thing. As you guys know, when your best pass 352 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: rusher is a defensive tackle, and that's the forest. 353 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: Less it's Aaron Donald, right, Yeah, something crazy like that. 354 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: And last year, unfortunately for Buckner, he missed nine games 355 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: with neck injury, and he's gonna have to you know, 356 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: rehab most of of the offseason with that and ideally 357 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 4: you get him back sometime in training camp. So we'll 358 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 4: see as far as that goes. But yeah, I mean, 359 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 4: without a first round pick, I think the only viable 360 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: option for the Colts is to kind of go heavy 361 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 4: in that regard in free agency and bring in a 362 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 4: veteran pass rusher. But it's gonna be tricky because you 363 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 4: got to make the money work, because if you sign 364 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: Jones and Pierce, not a whole lot of pizza left 365 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: in that pot, you know what I'm saying, no doubt, 366 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: So that's gonna be interesting. I think big picture, they're 367 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: gonna have to go a blend of free agency and 368 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: the draft to get more consistency inside that lou Anrumo defense. 369 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: In year number two, great stuff with the mayor of 370 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: Radio Row and the voice of the Indianapolis Colts, Matt Taylor. 371 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: Mattaker Whosier, that's exactly right. Yeah, yeah, I told him 372 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: I might be going to the Purdue basketball game to 373 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: Maroney rolled his eyes at me and wasn't wasn't too thrill. 374 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: But don't worry with the Michigan State guys, I'll be 375 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: proper and doctrinated. Start. 376 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 4: If you just wear you're Steelers colors, they're gonna blend 377 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 4: right in, so you're gonna have to go out and. 378 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: That's true and go way out of your way. I 379 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: didn't even think about it. See, that's why I like 380 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: talking tomorrow, man, you know, keeping me on the straight 381 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: and narrow. Thanks for the time, dude, and thanks for 382 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: having us as always a pleasure. 383 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: Guys. 384 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: We love this voice of the Cults. Matt Taylor kind 385 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: enough to lend us some time here when we come 386 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: back on the other side appointment viewing prospects. When we 387 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: get the field action going tomorrow, we'll rattle off some 388 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: of those names here in our number three West ruler 389 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. It's the drive Steelers Nation Radio on the 390 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Note. 391 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: This is live cobble reach of that twenty twenty six 392 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: NFL combine on Steeler's Nation Radio, a part of the 393 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network. 394 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: A few more segments here, some teas to cross, some 395 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: eyes to dot before we can get up out of here. 396 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: We are once again. I said, we're gonna get to 397 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: talking about some appointment viewing pro specs, you know, guys 398 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 3: that you have to watch here on the field as 399 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: the action gets going tomorrow. But we're gonna Aaron Rodgers 400 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: assess the situation at the line of scrimmage pivot here 401 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: a little bit. 402 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people don't want to hear this. 403 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: Because we got some some exclusive audio Rob king sitting 404 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: down with Steelers general manager Omar Kahn talking about the combine, 405 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: the off season process. Of course, our guy Kinger, he was, uh, 406 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: he's pretty good at this, you know, the the interviewing, 407 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: in the hang of it, and and and all that stuff. 408 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: He was born to talk about sports on TV. He was, 409 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: this is radio. 410 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: But you know he was enjoying our guests earlier today. 411 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: He sure was so here is Rob Kings one on 412 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: one conversation with Steelers GM Omar Khan. 413 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 5: All right, Omar, thanks very much for being with us. 414 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 5: My first question for you. The Steelers won the AFC 415 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: North last year. A lot of people didn't predict that. 416 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 5: I know, I don't know if you've paid much attention 417 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 5: to that kind of thing, but quality wins over teams 418 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 5: like New England, who was in the Super Bowl of 419 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 5: Detroit Baltimore. How would you categorize that twenty twenty five season. 420 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 6: You know, we won some good games, but the reality 421 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 6: is our goals won a Super Bowl and we didn't 422 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 6: reach that goal. So anything short of that's not good enough. 423 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 6: And we're in the process of evaluating everything we did 424 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 6: last year and trying to get better and improve because ultimately, 425 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 6: our goals won a Super Bowl. 426 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 5: The season ended and Mike Tomlin announced his resignation, it seemed. 427 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 6: To catch all of us by surprise. 428 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 5: What was your reaction when you heard the news? 429 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, same, You know, he came and met with me 430 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 6: that morning, the day after the game, and he told 431 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 6: me what he was going to do, and I was 432 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 6: surprised as everyone else. You know, we've been together with 433 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 6: him for nineteen years and he's been a great partner. 434 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: You know, it's been a truly been an honor to 435 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 6: work side by side with coach t And but yeah, 436 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 6: I was surprised like everyone else. 437 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 5: So I'm sure that now you have to go through 438 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 5: the process you probably weren't expecting to, which is hiring 439 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 5: a head coach. What made Mike McCarthy the right guy 440 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 5: to hire? 441 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 6: So we we had a very we were very open 442 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 6: minded and and we we did cast a wide net 443 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 6: trying to figure out, you know, trying to find the 444 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 6: right guy, interviewed some great candidate. It's really really the process. 445 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 6: Was was really proud of the process that we ran, 446 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 6: and you know, Art Rouiney led that and it was 447 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 6: it was tremendous. But as we went through the process 448 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 6: of you know, we evaluated where we were as an 449 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 6: organization and what we are as a team, you know, 450 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: it just it just just felt right and it became 451 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 6: evident that Mike McCarthy was the was the right choice 452 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 6: for us. And uh, it's been great so far. You know, 453 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 6: it's it's been we've been NonStop since he got hired. 454 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 6: But it's it's it's been, it's been good. Excited. 455 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 5: You know, everyone talks about the combine and that's exciting 456 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 5: and free agency, but coachest to his own roster too. 457 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 5: So how does he get up to speed? How do 458 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: you help him get up to speed with evaluating what 459 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 5: he currently has, which will be the bulk of what 460 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 5: he has in twenty twenty six. 461 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I can tell you he was extremely prepared 462 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 6: when we met, when we went through the interview process. 463 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 6: You know, I was impressed about how well he knew 464 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 6: our roster. And I obviously there's things he doesn't know, 465 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 6: things that happened and that are going on inside the 466 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 6: building that no one else knows. And you know, it's 467 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 6: been part of the last month. You know, we we've 468 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 6: been we communicate multiple times a day. Uh, you know, 469 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 6: we're working long hours trying to uh get to know 470 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 6: each other, and that's been part of the process. 471 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 5: His press conference, one of the great things he said 472 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 5: was being flexible with the players on the roster, tailoring 473 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 5: the system to them. That having been said, are there 474 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 5: minor tweaks of what he might want at a particular 475 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 5: position as opposed to what you have or what you 476 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 5: might be scouting leading up to free agency? 477 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 6: In the draft. Yeah, certainly there's gonna be some things 478 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 6: that are different than than or he's gonna want expect 479 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 6: different things. And then maybe and that goes coach to coach, right, 480 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 6: every every coach is gonna be a little bit different. 481 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 6: But for the most part, you know, I think he's 482 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 6: excited about the pieces that are in place here. We 483 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 6: had some good young players and some exciting players, and uh, 484 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 6: you know, he's excited to work with him and his 485 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 6: staff as echoed the same thing. 486 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 5: You know, when when you come to the combine, I 487 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: think maybe a lot of fans maybe don't fully understand 488 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 5: what goes the amount of work that goes in before 489 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 5: the combine. It's not like you're showing up shuffling through papers. 490 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 5: Hey what do we have here, guys? You know, so, 491 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 5: what are some of the milestones kind of leading up 492 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 5: to the draft? Leading up to the combine, I should say, 493 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 5: for you and your stuff. 494 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 6: So scouts really spend obviously a lot of their time 495 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 6: on the road in the fall getting ready and evaluating 496 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 6: the guys, and we get together in December. It kind 497 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 6: of gives me a rundown idea of what the draft 498 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 6: is looking like and who the players are it gives 499 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 6: me a good first look. And then what happens is 500 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 6: in February we spend a couple of weeks locked into 501 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 6: that uh that that draft room. It's interesting because every 502 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 6: day it feels like that room is getting smaller and smaller. 503 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 6: But we you know, it's it's it's a it's a 504 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 6: grind for two weeks there leading up to this, and 505 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 6: a lot of phone calls and a lot of sidebar 506 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 6: meetings getting to know that the players that are going 507 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 6: to be part of the process, and you know, then 508 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: we come here, this is the next step. There's so 509 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 6: a lot of work to be done. 510 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 5: What is most valuable part of the combine for you? 511 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 6: You know, you guys have heard me talk about I've 512 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 6: said this publicly about trying to identify guys that are Steelers, 513 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 6: that are there there for us. Certain players might not, 514 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 6: you know, fit what we want as guys to be 515 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 6: a Steeler, but they might fit somewhere else. And you 516 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 6: know what that means. It's it's it's sometimes hard to 517 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: explain because there's so many characteristics and traits of what 518 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 6: we and what we want a Steeler to to be 519 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 6: and to look like. And but when you're in this 520 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 6: you sort of know. So for me being here in 521 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 6: the interview process, watching these guys, how they interact when 522 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 6: they're not they don't know they're being necessarily filmed, and 523 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 6: just just seeing that and I'm obviously working out, Uh, 524 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 6: it's it's it's all part of it, just really getting 525 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 6: them and see if they're they're meant to be Pittsburgh Steelers. 526 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 5: This might not be a great question, might be a 527 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 5: better question two much from now. I'm sure it probably 528 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 5: would be. But are there strengths and weaknesses whether it's 529 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 5: position or hey, the top of the draft is good 530 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 5: or no, no, there's more depth than top of the draft, 531 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 5: or are you still kind of working through that. 532 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're still working through you know, as I sit 533 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 6: here today, I mean, there's some really. 534 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: Good football players. 535 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 6: This is a good draft, a lot of talented players, 536 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 6: and you know, we have twelve picks, which is a lot. 537 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 6: You know, as a sit here today, I wish I 538 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 6: had forty picks. Like, there's some good football players out there. 539 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 6: But the spring is really important for this process and 540 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 6: allows us to sort out some things, and you know, 541 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: things like the medical and the off the field stuff 542 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 6: and certain schematic things and things that you learn about guys. 543 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 6: But you know, we'll get there. But it's it's fluid. 544 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 6: It's fluid. 545 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 5: Right now, you and your staff have had three really 546 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: well regarded drafts. How do you make sure that trend continues? 547 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 5: Are there little things that you're still kind of fine 548 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 5: tuning or is it pretty much a machine sort of 549 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 5: by now? 550 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 6: So you know, it's a good question. You know, I'd 551 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 6: say every year, after the draft and you know, we 552 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 6: get into the season, we evaluate ourselves. We self scout ourselves, 553 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 6: see how we did and the process and what we 554 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 6: can tweak and what we can do better. For the 555 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 6: most part, we've sort of identified what we wanted every position, 556 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 6: so we just source we stick to that. 557 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: This time last year, there were a lot of questions 558 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: about the quarterback position. A lot of them revolved around 559 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. Here we are a year later, there's still 560 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 5: a lot of questions about the quarterback position, mostly involving 561 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 5: around Aaron Rodgers. 562 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: So, uh, what is that? 563 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 6: What is the status there? You know, I've had conversations 564 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 6: with Aaron. 565 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: Uh. 566 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 6: Coach McCarthy has two uhen good conversations on this conversations. 567 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 6: You know, I think we went we started off last year, 568 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 6: we went at this. I think we'd all agree that 569 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 6: we probably thought it was just gonna be a one 570 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 6: year thing. But it was a really good experience for 571 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 6: us and and for him, I believe. But you know, 572 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 6: we'll see where it goes. You know, I don't foresee this. Uh, 573 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 6: this isn't gonna be like last year where drags on 574 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 6: into June. I think we'll know probably sooner than later, you. 575 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: Know, don't. 576 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 6: I don't have an exact date on it, but you know, 577 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 6: we'll see. 578 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: So you've continued to be aggressive in free agency. I 579 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 5: don't know if you. I'm sure you have an idea 580 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: of this year's class, and certainly guys can be extended. 581 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: Some of your own guys might be extended. So outside 582 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 5: of the combine, how much attention is being focused on 583 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 5: re signing some of your own players and what this 584 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 5: year's free agency. 585 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 6: Class might look like. Yeah, right now, it's it's really 586 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 6: on our own guys. You know, that's that's the priority. 587 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 6: That we have some key free agents that we players 588 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 6: that we want back. They know they know we want 589 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 6: to we want them back, and we're just we're just 590 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 6: going through the process. And you know, meeting with the 591 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 6: agents and and hoping we can get some of these 592 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 6: deals done as we get closer to the sort of 593 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 6: free agency. 594 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 5: So the combine is an important step, right, we know that, 595 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 5: but it's only one step. So what happens after the 596 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: combine is finished here in Indianapolis? 597 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, After the combine, we'll go back, get back to Pittsburgh, 598 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 6: will evaluate how these guys did, see who worked out here, 599 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 6: who didn't. And then now the pro day start. You know, 600 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 6: Coach McCarthy and I were going to be hitting the 601 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 6: pro day circuit here in March. Uh, so are so 602 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 6: are our scouts. And then lots of meetings, lots of conversations, 603 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 6: a lot of information gathering. Uh. And then you know, 604 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 6: and then draft will be here before we know it. 605 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 5: And I would be remiss if I didn't ask one 606 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 5: final question about the quarters. IIP you're wearing, Yeah in Pittsburgh. 607 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 5: What is your excitement and expectation level? 608 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 6: There's no place better than Western PA to be hosting this. 609 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 6: You know, we've been talking about this for a long 610 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 6: time and it's hard to believe that it's here. You 611 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 6: know that this is the year, and I'm so exciting. 612 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 6: I'm getting a ton of requests. I'm sure a lot 613 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 6: of people are, and you know, my focus obviously will 614 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 6: be in on picking the players. But I can't tell 615 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 6: you how excited I am this. The city is excited, 616 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 6: the organization's excited, and I can't wait to show you know, 617 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 6: I've been in Pittsburgh now for what twenty five, twenty 618 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 6: six years, and I've grown. I love it. You know, 619 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 6: it's a great place to be and it has so 620 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 6: much The region has so much more to offer than 621 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 6: people realize. And I can't wait for whatever five six, 622 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 6: seven hundred thousand people that are coming to see it 623 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 6: to really get an exposure of western Pennsylvania because it's special, 624 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 6: it's unique. And can't wait. Oh, Mark, thanks very much, appreciurem. 625 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 6: Good to see you. 626 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: Omar Con Steelers general manager with Rob King, the voice 627 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Good conversation there. 628 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: It was good. 629 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: Fifty nine days until the NFL the first round of 630 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh. That's gonna happen real quick. 631 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, pull curtain back. I mean when the 632 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: season ended, you know, you and I kind of went. 633 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: I didn't like the Steelers getting eliminated, but we can 634 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: exhale a little bit. Then there's a huge coaching change, 635 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: you know, like we've never seen before, you know, like 636 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: that that was whoa. And then you know, before you 637 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: know it, it's this thing and next thing, and we're 638 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: all with the combine. And I mean by this time 639 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: in two weeks, half of the free agents will be 640 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: on there new teams and to Steelers might have three 641 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: new players and you know, James Pierre might be a 642 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: commander or you know, who knows. I mean, there's so 643 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: much change so fast, and this draft is less than 644 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: sixty days away. 645 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, you're you're absolutely right. It's like the 646 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: season ends and you always think, all right, it's gonna 647 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: slow down, and it has not. It's gotten crazier with 648 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin and Mike McCarthy. And then we're here and 649 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: Matt about a month from now, you and I are 650 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: going to be in Phoenix for the owners meeting. 651 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: Right, that's not far away either, And then it'll be. 652 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: The NFL Draft, and then it'll be O Ta's a 653 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: mini cap and then we'll be before right. 654 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it never sleeping in the dorms before you know. 655 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: It's like the it's like the biggest myth that it 656 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 3: slows down and all of a sudden it's the off season. 657 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: And and certainly this year was different with Mike Tomlin 658 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: after the Steelers nine just that do it right, making 659 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 3: a coaching change for the first time in nineteen years. 660 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm feeling it. 661 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: A little bit. 662 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm a little I'm a little worn out. I'm a 663 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: little I'm a little down to the nub here. But 664 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: we're keeping it rolling. We're keeping the train on the 665 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: tracks because this show must go on. But yeah, that 666 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: is crazy. Under sixty days until the NFL Draft, uh 667 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh first round, of course, which is which is. 668 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: It's going to be a spectacle though, and Omar mentioned it. 669 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it sure seems like the organization and everyone 670 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: is super excited for it, and there's a ton of 671 00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: people around and. 672 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: He says that five hundred, six hundred and sevenhundred thousand people, 673 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: which is not an over exaggeration. That's what these things, 674 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: these things get. I mean, that's the same type of 675 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: numbers they had in Detroit and Cleveland and some of 676 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 3: these other you know, similar size cities and areas that 677 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: have hosted in the recent history. I'm getting nervous just 678 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: thinking about the traffic. I'm getting audja just thinking about 679 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: the traffic already here. 680 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: Oh man. And I'm sure Omar is feeling this, and 681 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: the draftnicks we have on have felt it, and I 682 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: definitely an't feel And it's like, how am I going 683 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: to learn all these players? And I only get sixty 684 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 2: more days or so I really know what I'm talking about, 685 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: you know. 686 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly we had fran On earlier. 687 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: He had gone through He's done two hundred and fifty 688 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: reports already. Wow, he's I already watched two hundred fifty guys. 689 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: God bless him. I did. My ears did kind of 690 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: perk up there when Omar Cohn said, we have to 691 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: find the right quarterback that's going to be an AFC 692 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: North quarterback playing in the AFC North. There's nothing like it, 693 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: the cold weather, the rivalry, is the physicality of the division. 694 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: Not to look too much into it, but I'd make 695 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: that makes me think that there's not going to be 696 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: a smaller daintier type guy. 697 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: I think he and I I know that his for 698 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: this year. He's still up in the air. But like 699 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: a Trinidad CHAMBERLSS, I think, you know, now again. 700 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: Like frankly, I don't think Kenny Pickett fit that bill. 701 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: You know, no smaller hands, he wasn't as yeah, big 702 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: and physical. 703 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: Brow Burrow has the smaller hands, but he's big and physical. 704 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he moves so well in the pocket, and 705 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: he's just a special player anyway. 706 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: But you know, and you know, Lamar is obviously a 707 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: different type. But there's also been some concern of you know, 708 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: how he is by December and January and in the 709 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: postseason and some of the wear and tear. So yeah, 710 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: I think you're right though, Like we've talked. 711 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: A lot about we saw what Ben did here, you 712 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 713 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: You and I have talked about kind of almost like 714 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: a roller coaster at Kenny Wood, Like there's just certain 715 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: thresholds that you want your future. You got to be 716 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 3: at least this big, You got to be at least 717 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: this athletic. And I think that makes a lot of 718 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: sense with you when you play where the Steelers. 719 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: Play, Like it would shocked me if Kyler Murray is 720 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: someone there strongly considering, you know what I mean, or 721 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: or a couple these draft prospects that are under two 722 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: hundred pounds, or you know, what I mean. I bet 723 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: when they pick their next one, it won't that won't 724 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: be the bill. 725 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a feeling that that's going to be 726 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 3: the case as well. We have got one more segment 727 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: to go to wrap up this bonus hour to wrap 728 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: up the day's proceedings here on Radio Row West Shuler. 729 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson back with our final segment when we return. 730 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: It's all part of our ongoing combine coverage Steelers Nation 731 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. 732 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: This is live Cobble reach up that twenty twenty six 733 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: NFL Combine on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the 734 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network. 735 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: Final segment here, Bonus Hour of the Drive. It's our 736 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: final segment of our day to coverage, working nine to five. 737 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson just like Dolly Parton on radio, and it 738 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: is hilarious. We've had a few different teams that have 739 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 3: been like you guys are always on. 740 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: I know, I'm not sure anybody else does. 741 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 3: It like we do. Yeah, don't they. What they do 742 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 3: is they do podcast interviews basically like we. 743 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: Have Matt Taylor on. I'm going to join them tomorrow 744 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: and I think they'll put that on their site. Yes, 745 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: as a ten minute interview. 746 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: And it they'll post it out as a podcast like 747 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: in there. But but yes, it's not live radio coverage 748 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: like this, right, I think we are the only one 749 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 3: here that does live radio and we and we and 750 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 3: we do it for eight hours every day. 751 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: And I'm not picking on them, but I'm looking at 752 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 2: like straight ahead of us as a Tampay Buccaneers. Right 753 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: to our left is the Washing Commanders, and right the 754 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: left of them is the Niners. I don't know if 755 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: anybody's ever been there it or they stop in for 756 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: a minute, you know, like. 757 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: TV might have stole some of their chairs. 758 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: I would say some of our video guys are using 759 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: their plugs, and you know, right that is always the 760 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: chairs here. We don't get around here, No, we do not. 761 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: We certainly do not. It is a heavy lift, but 762 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: it is a lot of fun. Matt. Finally, tomorrow it 763 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: is We've talked about this, the kind of craziness of 764 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: we all get here so early in the week, but 765 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: the workout don't start until later in the week. Tomorrow 766 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 3: finally on field workouts for defensive linemen and linebackers. That 767 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: kicks off what will be Thursday Friday, Saturday Sunday, four 768 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: straight days of on field workouts for this twenty twenty 769 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 3: six NFL combine with I'm hoping a. 770 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: Couple of detackles really catch my eye, you know, that's 771 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: the I'm not sure that I don't have a great 772 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: feel for that position yet. 773 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: That's the one group that I feel like, if you 774 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: were to say to me right now, it's not going 775 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: to be a wide receiver it picked twenty one. There 776 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: would be part of me that thinks, hey, maybe there 777 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: is a ty Simpson type situation, but that would I 778 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 3: don't think. 779 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: So either, don't think so. 780 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so my immediate thought, if you know, if 781 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: you were to do that type of scenario, it's not 782 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 3: a wide receiver at twenty one, where do they go? 783 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: My immediate thought is there's a run on offensive tackles 784 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: and edge rushers. It ends up rolling around a picked 785 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: twenty one that zero, maybe one or zero of the 786 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: defensive tackles are off the board. I could see zero, yeah, 787 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: and you have your pick and Peter Woods and Lee 788 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 3: Hunter and McDonald from Ohio State and Caleb Banks from Florida, Like. 789 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: There's one of them to emerge to be like if 790 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: he's too good to pass up at twenty. 791 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 3: One exactly right, how that is yet I would love 792 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 3: to be in that scenario. I don't know who that 793 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: is yet, But those guys will start their on field 794 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 3: workouts tomorrow and we'll start to get a clear picture 795 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: of that equation with that Matt ten appointment. Viewing prospects 796 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: to watch here over the next four days that you 797 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: should have your eyes on this week. This list via 798 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 3: Todd at McShay. Of course one of I haven't seen 799 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: him floating around. I know he's here, one of the 800 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 3: OG draftnicks. Those guys all hang out in Lucas Oil 801 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: in their fans, Yeah they do, they see TV studios 802 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 3: and yeah, they don't grind it out like the rest 803 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 3: of us. You know, like Mike McCarthy says, there's got 804 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: to be grinders, and then there's got to be you know, 805 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: people that are in a different stage of their career 806 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: where that we're we're in the grinrinding out, grinding it out. Uh. 807 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: To of the first two names on his list, not 808 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 3: surprising at all, both out of Ohio State, RVL Reese 809 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 3: and Sunny Styles. 810 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I assume Todd at this point is locked 811 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: into who's going to work out? Who isn't what they're 812 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 2: gonna do? 813 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: Yes, he gives him. He's like, both of these guys 814 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: wouldn't have to work out. I give him credit for 815 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 3: doing so. 816 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: That's exactly what as I say. It's like, I'm not 817 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: sure they have to do much. Plus Ohio State's a 818 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 2: notoriously fast track. You know, if you're going to be 819 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 2: the second pick overall, anyway, what do you have the gain? 820 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: Sometimes there's only we can only go backwards by working 821 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: out or you know, but I think both these players 822 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: are truly in contention for the best prospect in the draft, 823 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, Like I think they're better prospects than Mendoza. 824 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 3: And playing in Matt Patricia's system, like you know, NFL 825 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: style system. I mean, it's it's it's a Whoever gets 826 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 3: those two is going to end up, by thinking, a 827 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: very good spot. 828 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and neither one is gonna be a Steeler. You 829 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 2: have to trade up heavy, heavy, heavy, I think when 830 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: it's all said and done, yes, especially after these workouts. 831 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm with you. The next up on the list here 832 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: undersize edge rushers Cashiest Hall out of Texas A and 833 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 3: m and Our Mason Thomas who like the joke sounds 834 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: like a president from the Yah. 835 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 836 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, hundreds out of Oklahoma. 837 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: Don't much to add on these guys. But if you 838 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: are going to be an undersized dude like a Nick 839 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: Benito or you know that, you better be explosive, you 840 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 2: better test well. People be looking at your ten yards split, 841 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: which is an obvious correlation to your get off. Three 842 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: cone is big for these guys too. It just kind 843 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: of shows the ability to not lose speed while you 844 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: dip in, you know, lower that shoulder around the edge. 845 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: So a couple of these guys, I'm sure we'll stand 846 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: out jumps are big. 847 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 3: It's funny actually he brings up Nick Benito. Oh it 848 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 3: did in the conversation for these two, you know, talking 849 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 3: about his thirty two and a half inch arms and 850 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: forty time and that kind of thing. And if these 851 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 3: guys can. 852 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: You can overcome some of those shortcomings, you're exactly right. Yeah, 853 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 2: you got the great get off or you know, super explosive. 854 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: Exactly right. And that's kind of the best, you know, 855 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 3: case scenario for these guys who are a little undersized. 856 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: Up next, and this is certainly one for me. Jermad 857 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: McCoy out of Tennessee. As we've discussed the guy who 858 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 3: was so good for the Vault, maybe the best corner 859 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: in the SEC in twenty twenty four, and then tore 860 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 3: his I can't remember it was ACL or Achilles, but 861 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 3: had a significant ACL. It was ACL during a workout 862 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 3: in January, so just a little over a year ago 863 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: in a winter workout with the Valls, tore his. ACL 864 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 3: missed the entire season of twenty twenty five. But Matt, 865 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 3: if he would have came out last year, he'd be 866 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 3: a first round pick. I mean, he might have been 867 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: a you know, top ten guy. Then. I still think 868 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 3: he has a chance to be in that range. But 869 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 3: he's got to prove that he's fully recovered and the 870 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 3: movement and the mobility and that ACL injury is behind him. 871 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if this will come to 872 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: fruition or not. But if he's outstanding on the turf 873 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: here and medically, everyone's like, oh, he's fine, he's overcome it. 874 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: I wonder if you'll start seeing Max where he's like 875 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 2: fourth overall, fifth overall, you know, because corners a pretty 876 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: premium position. Young he's so young. I mean, it didn't 877 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 2: deter people from like taking Stingley. I know that was 878 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 2: a COVID situation, but still it's like, Okay, we didn't 879 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 2: get any tape from you last year, but I saw 880 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: enough and that. 881 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 3: Well for Stingley, worked out well for Michael Parsons, well 882 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 3: for Jamar Chase. 883 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's like in those drafts had more 884 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 2: blue chip guys. You know, if he can erase all 885 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: medical concerns, maybe he's going to be a skyrocket player. 886 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: I think of anyone at that position, and you know, 887 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 3: Mansor Delaane and some of those other guys who deserve 888 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: to be in the conversation, I think he's got a 889 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 3: real chance to, like you said, rock it into the 890 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 3: top ten. 891 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he's a no brainer top eight pick 892 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: by the time April rolls around. That would not shock me. 893 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: Many press man just smothers people got the strong ball. 894 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 2: What he does well or did well is hard to find. 895 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 3: It's hard to find. 896 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: It's very valuable. 897 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially if you're still just twenty years old, 898 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 3: Teams will be licking their chops to get a guy 899 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 3: like that. Can you out of Oregon? 900 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: We talked about him on the Freaks List. 901 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: Hearing about him on the Freaks list. You know, he 902 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 3: is up to two hundred and fifty five pounds now, 903 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 3: gotta still be you know, he's added some weight, so 904 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 3: you got to prove that you can still put up 905 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: those freakishly athletic numbers, you know, with with some extra 906 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 3: mass on you. 907 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have much to add. I can't imagine 908 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: what scenario he wouldn't be tight end one. But still, 909 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: maybe he's instead of mocked in the early twenties or whatever, 910 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: and now he's getting linked to the Chiefs at nine 911 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: or ten or whatever. You know. 912 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 3: Cole Payton is on this list, quarterback out of North 913 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 3: Dakota State, maybe one of Matt's draft crushes. Here in 914 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, the South Paula talking about basically like 915 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 3: his throwing motion and his fluidity, like he's been known 916 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 3: to be a little tight in his in his throwing motion, 917 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: and can he can he kind of shred some of that? 918 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 3: Can he put some some good looking stuff on tape 919 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 3: here at the combine? 920 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm right or wrong, he's gonna look a little different 921 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: than all of the other assembly line quarterbacks because of 922 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: the leftiness. And but he did throw the ball well 923 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: to Senior Bowl. I'm sure he's working on getting rid 924 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 2: of some of that stiffness as well. These guys all 925 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 2: have quarterback coaches, so he will be interesting. 926 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 3: Denzel Boston on this list, he. 927 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 2: Might shock people with his forty and his jumps. 928 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: If he does six foot four pounds, maybe he ends 929 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 3: up being the third wide receiver off the board and 930 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 3: not Jordan Tyson. 931 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what if Tyson has some injury stuff that 932 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: it concerns people. I know Lemon's tape is great and 933 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm not knocking him at all, but he may be 934 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: short or might be small and slow in this environment. 935 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: Is not going to help Lemon. It could help Boston 936 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: a lot. 937 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 3: Another wide receiver on this list Omari Cooper Junior, the 938 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: freakish catch wide receiver out of national champion Indiana. Some 939 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 3: comparisons to Jarvis Landry, but potentially even faster. 940 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Landry was not a super explosive guy. He was 941 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: a blocker, slot, tough guy, you know. 942 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: And McShay saying if Omarku Junior can run in the 943 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 3: four to four forty range, great chance that he could 944 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 3: be a first round picking in April. 945 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 2: His name keeps popping up, is you know, you know, 946 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 2: don't be shocked this guy's doing in the first round. 947 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: You know I could see it. 948 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 3: I know I could too. And he's got those you know, 949 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 3: he's got those big plays in the big moments, which 950 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 3: is stuff that these talent evaluators really like. Every snap 951 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 3: is not created equal, and that that he is he 952 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 3: has been at his best when the lights have been brightest, 953 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 3: and that is certainly something that that these talent evaluators value. Finally, Matt, 954 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 3: as we wrap up the show and wrap up this exercise, 955 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 3: the last one, Francis Mauigoa the tackle out of Miami, 956 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 3: and I wonder if. 957 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: There's be more drill work related, you know, do you 958 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: have the feat for tackle as opposed to guard? 959 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 3: Exactly right, That's that's basically what he's saying. You know, 960 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 3: there's there's been some conversation of is he a true 961 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 3: tackle or could you know, could he be like a Zach. 962 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: Martin type bump inside inside and be the. 963 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 3: Best guard of your generation or one or two on 964 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 3: that list. He's six six, three thirty five and if he, 965 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 3: you know, runs a sub five five second forty yard dash. 966 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: I'd see like his bag drills and some of the 967 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 2: non testing stuff, but the more drill work. You know, 968 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,919 Speaker 2: how light on the feed? Are you kicks live like that? Yeah? 969 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well those are the names to keep 970 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: an eye on as the on field stuff gets going. Tomorrow. 971 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 3: We will be back tomorrow of course at nine a m. 972 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 3: For another fuld. 973 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: You're leading off again right. 974 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 3: Myself and Mike Pursuda leading it off here and so 975 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 3: that will continue tomorrow. Thanks to all of our guests today, 976 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 3: Travis May, Matt Harmon, Matt Taylor, some really good ones. 977 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: Thanks to Nathan for producing for us back at the Ranch. TV, 978 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 3: Tyler V here on site on the video side of 979 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: things for Matt Wins and un Wes Hueler. Take care everybody. 980 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 3: We will talk to you tomorrow. As always, you know 981 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 3: where to find us. It's on your twenty four to 982 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 3: seven Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio 983 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 3: on the Steelers to your network.