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Speaker 1: It's social media's kind of tablet YEA.

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Speaker 3: We just let y'all vote pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Now you out of your goddamn money. You know, cover

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Speaker 1: Babies and your kalas are racists, money and turning stuff.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell me chocolate candy, sweet as gold. Let

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Speaker 1: me see that, TUTSI role. Welcome to another brand new

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Speaker 1: episode of My Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 2: The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets

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Speaker 2: of black conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 1: And we finally worked to prove that the little prayer

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Speaker 1: she said for me and that iconic song was in

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Speaker 1: fact the hustler's prayer. Aretha's been thucking this whole time.

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Speaker 1: I'm dogging for it, damn.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lesny Kerman. And and it doesn't surprise me to

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Speaker 2: hear that Aretha was a lady of the streets and

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Speaker 2: not in a who way, not in a way, not

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Speaker 2: in a way she was getting money. She was out there,

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Speaker 2: she was out there making sure her ship was moving

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Speaker 2: the way it was supposed to be moving.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I appreciate about it.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the only thing I appreciate about her.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that, don't come on.

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Speaker 2: It's the only thing I care about is that Aretha

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Speaker 2: was a drug dealer. I don't give a fuck about

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Speaker 2: the music. Her passion for drugs is where I care.

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Speaker 2: I hate this about you. You need some centralized deity

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Speaker 2: in your life because you're going you're going off the rails.

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Speaker 1: To be completely.

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Speaker 2: Honest, buddy, if I could, if I could fully commit

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Speaker 2: to devil worship, I.

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Speaker 1: Would, That's what I worry. I would in a second.

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Speaker 2: But I can't because of all the Christian whatever that

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Speaker 1: But if I could, I mean, on paper, the devil

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Speaker 1: is like a more dynamic individual. What you want to

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Speaker 1: root for men, Yeah, it's just like bootstraps. He pulled

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Speaker 2: I guess today doesn't seem sold on the devil quite yet,

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Speaker 2: But we'll get her there, I think. I think by

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Speaker 2: the end of the episode, we all feel comfortable saying, well,

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Speaker 2: have you fully invested in the Devil? That is our

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Speaker 2: promise to you and the listeners at home. She's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: She is a hilarious comedian, an actress, a digital creator

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Speaker 2: of all kinds. You know her from her own podcasts

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Speaker 2: called The Jokes On You Please give it up for

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Speaker 2: mel Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: Hi, guys, Yeah, I was trying to be quiet until

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Speaker 3: my introduction on the double.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you can weigh in on the Devil. That's part

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Speaker 2: of why the Devil is so cool. It ain't no

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, And that's what scares me. He don't

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Speaker 3: have no no limits to what he be doing. And

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Speaker 3: that's why I can't fool with the devil like that,

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Speaker 3: because you just be deviling. Then it'd be too hot

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Speaker 1: Go to him.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Heaven is cold though?

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Speaker 3: I think Heaven is like a smooth like seventy three degrees,

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Speaker 3: you know, seventy three seventy three is not fi it's

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Speaker 1: Right right, So it's like, really, you could wear that

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Speaker 3: If you feel like we're in a hoodie, that's fine,

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Speaker 3: even with shorts cross it's a nice weather neutral. It's

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, okay, that all sounds cool, but in hell,

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Speaker 2: you get to know it. You get to put two

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Speaker 1: But someone gets this food away from me.

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Speaker 3: Imagine being musty forever. That's not fun to me.

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Speaker 1: And that's's biggest fear.

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Speaker 2: Being musty is my biggest fear. That seems like a

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Speaker 1: Wait, were you a musty child?

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Speaker 2: I had? I probably had like six months where it

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Speaker 1: Wow, are you so bright? What happens?

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Speaker 3: That's a long time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think you don't fully have somebody like sitting

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Speaker 1: I had to be high.

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Speaker 2: This was six to seventh.

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Speaker 3: So you weren't wearing deodorant until seventh grade.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the way you're asking.

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Speaker 3: From a place of jealousy because I remember the first

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Speaker 1: This is major because we've been talking about Tussy some.

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Speaker 3: Black girl lore. You get that tuessy around six or seven.

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Speaker 2: Wow, So Tussy is the starter diodorant.

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Speaker 3: That's your starter deodorant. You start with Tussy and then

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Speaker 2: In Okay, Secret, Powerful Journey, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Secret. Secret is pH balance for a man. I've used

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Speaker 1: Secret and done fine.

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Speaker 2: That was always the rumor when I was a kid,

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Speaker 3: Literally, I used to day a guy who would use

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to be a real secure dude to

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Speaker 1: No you don't. You just have to be pouring shout

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that version of the game. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm going to buy secret, I'm not talking And also

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Speaker 2: because you see, you're seeing people's ship meant for grown people.

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Speaker 3: Swear testing is for playground mustiness.

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Speaker 2: That is it's in a jar.

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Speaker 3: I'm not regular. It wasn't the dip. It wasn't like this.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't know it was the regular stick. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the tusting that that Bory is referring to

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Speaker 1: Don't let don't let that. If you're listening, don't let

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Speaker 1: Legsen discourage you. Shout out to all of you beautiful

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 3: Look at that.

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Speaker 2: Even if they do, if you're still dipping and putting

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Speaker 2: in weeks.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't six dollars for some.

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Speaker 1: Tuessy kennifforna Hug Cannifford, Not.

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Speaker 3: To this sixts.

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Speaker 1: That's not a deorderant price dealer. It's so expensive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no deodorant. It's it's pure aluminum. Why is that

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Speaker 1: That's why they that's why they lock it up at

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Speaker 2: No, you didn't come here to talk about tuessy. But

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Speaker 3: Teresa Grays it's the biological mother of Whitney Houston.

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Speaker 3: forever because he did it. What's his name.

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Speaker 1: Was?

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Speaker 2: Nick Cannon? He ain't a He ain't a bad guy.

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Speaker 3: What was his name? Nick Gordon? Nick Gordon. It's going

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Speaker 2: He wasn't treating her good.

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Speaker 1: He was in there getting high with her though.

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Speaker 3: He had something to do with both them allegedly to.

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Speaker 1: Me, mm hmm, damn, both of them.

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Speaker 3: To me, I think he had something to do with it,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna see to it. But that's neither here nor there.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder sometimes because it's like, initially when I

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Speaker 2: Well, when you said Wilin was her brother smoking crack wild.

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Speaker 3: Well, the story is allegedly is that Bobby didn't introduce

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's how they got on drugs

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Speaker 2: That will Yeah they ending great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, I love with thee Easton, So

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Speaker 3: I have to make it make sense to me. And

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you you hear this half a TikTok video.

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Speaker 2: does that though, so I merely recap. I believe it.

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Speaker 2: When did you turn on me so much? When when

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Speaker 2: did you become my arch nemesis. We're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: I aint you're your champion.

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Speaker 2: I doubt that very much, sir.

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Speaker 1: It's the only the villainous thing. That's the only thing

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Speaker 2: Together, that's the core of my personality. And you know it.

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Speaker 1: We are in a business to run now.

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like in not needing or rather not

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Speaker 2: doing the research. What you are saying is you don't

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Speaker 2: Stop Whitney Houston glorified hero that you see her as. Sure,

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Speaker 2: all right? And so with that, I guess I'm wondering,

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Speaker 3: I think we need to be looking into her family,

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Speaker 3: her estate period, because they've been moving funny since February eleven,

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Speaker 3: twenty twelve. I don't like what they got going on

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Speaker 2: We need to watch that.

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Speaker 1: Here's my question, who do you think is controlling the

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Speaker 3: Ain't it Pat?

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Speaker 1: I think it's Pat, and you feel like he's like

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Speaker 1: he's controlling it funny because there's no respect because it's

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Speaker 3: I feel like when you get to unpacking, that's what

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Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna unpack.

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Speaker 2: Pat Houston is a lady, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat Houston is the sister in law. Okay, but

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Speaker 3: anytime it's some function with Whitney here of State, I

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Speaker 3: hear the name Pat Houston, Well, who was Pat?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Look it up. Pat Houston is a girl like that.

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Speaker 2: You hadn't looked it up before this, But you're like,

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Speaker 2: I need but I know, Pat, I need to look

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Speaker 2: up Pat.

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Speaker 1: You see it?

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Speaker 2: You see it though, at some point I'm gonna look

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Speaker 3: In order to believe it's like it's like religion. You

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Speaker 3: have to have faith in your conspiracies. You don't need

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Speaker 3: all the proof in the world. You don't need the

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Speaker 3: right documentation. You just gotta believe, without the shadow of

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Speaker 3: the doubt, that it's lizards living under New York City.

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Speaker 3: You just gotta believe it, gree You just need this

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Speaker 3: much proof, and that's all.

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Speaker 2: Size of a mustard seed.

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Speaker 3: I'd say that's all you need, and I believe it.

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Speaker 2: So so you believe this? Does this then make you

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Speaker 2: invest in Teresa Graves?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you a Teresa Graves expert at this point or

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Speaker 2: were you already a big fan of Teresa Graves.

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Speaker 3: I have never heard of that lady of damn I life, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I was gonna tell you because the forty six seconds

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Speaker 3: else because again, what TikTok is where we don't need

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Speaker 3: encyclopedias anymore, Google pitch posh. All I need is a

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Speaker 3: good TikTok with a compelling first twelve seconds to hook

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Speaker 3: me in. And I watched the rest of it and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, so, yeah, so I do not agree with this.

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Speaker 2: You don't believe in a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the twelve first twelve seconds anything.

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Speaker 2: To the TikTok.

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Speaker 3: And no one's getting hurt. And this is not something

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Speaker 3: like being like anti VACX or like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 3: This is fun. I'm not hurting anybody by thinking Teresa

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Speaker 2: Oh, Whitney's real mother is alive. I think this probably

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Speaker 2: hurts pretty bad every time she goes.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Cissy Houston is on TikTok?

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Speaker 2: I think somebody in our life has shown her these videos.

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Speaker 2: I don't what else does she have going on?

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Speaker 1: Would you show her those videos if that was y

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Speaker 1: 'all know, But.

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Speaker 2: But there's a piece of shit in her family that.

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Speaker 1: Would, right, maybe that's fair.

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Speaker 2: We all got somebody in our family that'd be like, hey, sister,

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Speaker 2: you see what they're saying about you?

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Speaker 1: Right, right, that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: And she don't know how none of this works. So

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Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, there are these these high

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Speaker 2: to these two other women, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 2: it's all gonna be.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, you think you think isscrucively? No compared to

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Speaker 1: the mother too, though, Okay, I gotta do it side

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's it's gonna hurt her.

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Speaker 1: I get okay, Yeah you don't want that.

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Speaker 2: That's that's gonna hurt her feelings.

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Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, Teresia Graves really lights up a picture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just fucking gorgeous. That's that's unbelievable. I never

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Speaker 2: And then it was like they were like, you obviously

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Speaker 2: don't know none of this ship nut.

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Speaker 1: Out.

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Speaker 2: I know Whitney fine.

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Speaker 3: The video of her talking, and she sounds just like Whitney.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man like like her speech, like just

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Speaker 3: How Whitney talks like this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah she was.

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Speaker 3: She was talking and I was like, that sounded like Whitney.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real breathy. It's real breathy when Whitney real breathy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like she talks like she can sing. Sometimes you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bory, where are you with this? You're down to clown.

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Speaker 1: I was not like anti coming in, so yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm open to it.

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Speaker 2: Were you a Teresa Graves fan before?

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Speaker 1: Not at all. I've always been a Whitney Houston fan.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what was Teresa Gray. She is

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Speaker 3: No, I actually don't know who that is.

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Speaker 2: She she was an actress who also sang. I guess

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Speaker 2: none of them were like major, major hits. But she

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Speaker 2: Carrie Washington she was the first, really and then there

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Speaker 2: was like a nobody else won. Now they were like, we.

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Speaker 1: We had to sit through Ali mcbeill, and they couldn't

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Speaker 1: have given us one fucking Matt sine Shaw, attorney at law,

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Speaker 1: fucking spin off show.

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Speaker 3: See this is why you can't look up your conspiracies

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Speaker 3: because then it starts getting shaky because not I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at pictures, I'm believing it less. See, you guys ruined

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Speaker 3: this for me. It's like telling me Santa isn't real.

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Speaker 3: I've been living perfectly for the past month and a

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Speaker 4: Her that happens every day, that does happen, but doesn't

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Speaker 3: Picture of her when she got older, she don't look

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00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 3: nothing like Whitney.

444
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Speaker 2: Mmmm.

445
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 3: Once Whitney's dad looked like that, and I knew he

446
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 3: would asked that, and I already I'm right here with you.

447
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 3: I think she got her daddy knows.

448
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks. Let me see him again.

449
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: We're both her parents.

450
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: I see him. Oh know, he looks like he could

451
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: be cheating. He's not even more. He's looking away, looking

452
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: out to the side. That's not a trustworthy man.

453
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, anybody any black man that does this.

454
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: He's gonna daddy, you get two scoops.

455
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: Of pomade and like that. Nah that niggas about the cheat.

456
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got a second family in Pittsburgh.

457
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's smirking on this one.

458
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: He knows because he knows, and I'm about to cheat

459
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: as soon as his picture.

460
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: Man, he sees Teresa across the room.

461
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: Like mister rees and Green, excuse me, baby, I'll be

462
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: right back.

463
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: I'll be right back.

464
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: Back in the day when your husband had an outside baby,

465
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: you shut your ass up and you raised.

466
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: It, which ended beautifully. We all loved the ending of

467
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: that story because that doesn't get sad for anyone.

468
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: That poor outside baby. Your mama died birth, then your

469
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: raggedy daddy died, and now you left with.

470
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 5: The lady that didn't really want you, who had to

471
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 5: go off to war just to make peace with the

472
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 5: abuse he was facing.

473
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: Down at home.

474
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 3: Then the daddy from Lincoln Heights is your brother, but

475
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: he got enough to be your granddaddy. And then Uncle George,

476
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: Uncle George yelling in the street. It's just too much

477
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 3: going on.

478
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: It's too sad for me. I watched it like three

479
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: times and I couldn't believe I did that.

480
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: I saw it in theaters and I want to me

481
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Speaker 3: the other day other weekers like a wonder.

482
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Speaker 2: I don't know how long WHOA has legitimate films too.

483
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: Toby is a streaming platform. It has the ghetto Detroit movies,

484
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: but it also just has really good movies on there.

485
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: It'll be like playing movies on shuffle.

486
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Speaker 1: I love to because I have The Preacher's Wife, because

487
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to find it anywhere.

488
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: The Preacher's Wife should be streaming. Let me see.

489
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: I guess this isn't a podcast conversation. I was just

490
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. No, I hope you do

491
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: find it. I hope you find The Preacher's Wife.

492
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Speaker 3: If you just Google watch and then the name of

493
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 3: the movie, it'll show you where it is on to be. Actually, look,

494
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: it's on to be and it's free. Toby's free. You

495
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Speaker 3: get a little ad but it's not like over over

496
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Speaker 3: Addie like Hulu.

497
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: It's like and then you get to watch The Preacher's Wife.

498
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Speaker 1: They try to sell you a gallon.

499
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Speaker 2: Six commercials.

500
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Speaker 3: It's a period piece, so they have time appropriate you

501
00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: know advertisements. It's fun. Toby is the best.

502
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 2: Well, this this commercial for two B is gonna take

503
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Speaker 2: a break. We need to take a break. And when

504
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Speaker 2: we get back, we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk more

505
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: about this Whitney Houston conspiracy and we're gonna take a break.

506
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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more Mel Mitchell and more. My

507
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Speaker 2: mama told me we're back.

508
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Speaker 1: Is that we're back sponsored by two being Tossy. This

509
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Speaker 1: is the TNT Comedy Variety Hours. We are back. Mel

510
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Speaker 1: Mitchell discussing whether or not Teresa Graves was Whitney Houston's

511
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: real mother. Langston, I believe you have some research for us.

512
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: I did a little bit of research, and again I

513
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, it was mostly just watching YouTube videos. But

514
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: I finished mine. I went all the way to the

515
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Speaker 2: end of mine. I'm not just gonna turn it on.

516
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it, but I am saying that I'm

517
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: one of the finest researchers that this podcast has ever.

518
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: Seen that insinuates that I'm the only other one you've

519
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: never done.

520
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: Ever. So I would say I'm pretty good for who's

521
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: here as far.

522
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 6: As But but what is fascinating you already pointed this

523
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 6: out is that the theory is is that John Houston,

524
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 6: Whitney's daddy has an affair with this young girl, Teresa Graves,

525
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 6: and then ultimately then tells his wife, you will raise

526
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 6: this new child as our child because the other girl

527
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 6: is a child.

528
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: She's a baby.

529
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: She's fifteen.

530
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: She's fifteen. She should not be having a child. And

531
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: this is embarrassing.

532
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: How old are the Houstons at this point?

533
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: Uh, he's in his forties. God damn, yeah no it's

534
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: not this ain't a twenty year old fuck you know

535
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: what I mean? He wasn't. He was like picking up

536
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: his little sister and yeah.

537
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: No, there's like he was like, you know, I used

538
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: to play varsity last year.

539
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: I thought he was born in nineteen twenty.

540
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: God damn, snigger was a.

541
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: Flapper nineteen twenty.

542
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: He was playing the numbers. Baby, my boy said, guy.

543
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: Habit, yeah I need that rag time.

544
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 2: Guy.

545
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: He is going, oh he's he's mustying it up right now.

546
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: If this is true, this.

547
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: Is true, John, which it could very well not be.

548
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: It could. I'm fifty to fifty.

549
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: And Sissy Sissy was born in nineteen thirty three.

550
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Hmm, Okay, so he was.

551
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: He was born in nineteen sixty three.

552
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: He was seven years older than Whitney's Whitney's mom she's

553
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: sixty three.

554
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe, No, he was. He's thirteen years older

555
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: than Whitney's. Wrong.

556
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: Oh right, you said thirty. Oh I thought she was.

557
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: She was. She's won in nineteen thirty three. The dad

558
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 3: is one in nineteen twenty. Whitney was born in nineteen

559
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: sixty three, so the mom was only thirty when she

560
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: was conceived.

561
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm still a problem with the fifteen year

562
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: old though.

563
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the fifteen is not we need to get

564
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: some police.

565
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: It's not what's gonna work. But now I'm that makes.

566
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: And also, in all likelihood, if Whitney, what month is

567
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: Whitney born in? Do we know what?

568
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: August? August?

569
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

570
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: If she was born in August and that girl was

571
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: fourteen when when they were fucking around, that wouldn't know.

572
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: And we don't know when they started.

573
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: That's what I mean, like he he, So the implications

574
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: are very very very very very very very very very dangerous.

575
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: Well you brought it here, yeah, I mean.

576
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: I hadn't done this much research. I saw the TikTok,

577
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: I said yup, and then that was it, and here

578
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: we are, and now that we're this is now an

579
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: episode of.

580
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Speaker 2: Sdu Beyond that, what people already point out is sort

581
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: of like the physical similarities between Whitney Houston and Teresa Graves.

582
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: The nose, the eyebrows shape they point to. Obviously, they're

583
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: very thin frames. They both have a propensity for singing,

584
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: even though her mother also was a very successful singer.

585
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Her the mother that raised her, whether it's our biological

586
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: stepped up, the mother that stepped.

587
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: Up, I'm the dad that stayed.

588
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, so so they do point to the similarities,

589
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: both in their voices and their appearances, and in just

590
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: the way that they carried themselves. They often point to

591
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: as well. I guess the question is how much of

592
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: this feels like it just is TikTok discovering a new

593
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: lady and being like, well, I like that lady better

594
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: than I like the other version of this story. Because

595
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: none of us knew who Teresa Graves was.

596
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Right, right?

597
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: So is this just us just being like, you know,

598
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: when you find like a new like Instagram lady, you're like,

599
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: that's the baddest lady that has ever been bad. And

600
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: I've never seen no ladies finer than that, And it's like, no,

601
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: probably not true. You just discovered a new lady that

602
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: didn't exist.

603
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to know more about John

604
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: Houston Jr. As well. Mmm, he's the because he's the

605
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: one who did it. So we got to know where

606
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: he was moving, Like was he involved in the business.

607
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: He was a manager, He was her manager. Initially, he

608
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: was the mother's manager. And so there's an argument that

609
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: people have been making that he discovered Teresa Graves, discovered

610
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: her at a young age because she was a singer.

611
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: She's an actress. She's a person trying to seek fame.

612
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: This manager discovers her, discovers her, gets her pregnant, takes

613
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: the baby, hands it off to his already successful wife,

614
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: gives us Whitney Houston. Is Teresa from New Jersey?

615
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: Like that Teresa Graves, I don't remember where she's from.

616
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: Let's look that up.

617
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: Let's do it homework.

618
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: Now, Houston, Texas is where she's from, and then she

619
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: ends up in Englewood.

620
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: See in that field because they were like a New

621
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: Jersey as family, right, like Whitney grew up in New

622
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: Jersey like they were in Jersey.

623
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: Look mm hmm.

624
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: So like that also makes me feel like, maybe that

625
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: makes me feel less on board that Teresa Graves was

626
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: not because if it was like and I hate even

627
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: building this narrative, but if it was like a neighborhood

628
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: kid and he was like, oh, I've been senior, but

629
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: it's just a little girl from Houston, Like how did

630
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: he how did you discover the little girl from Houston.

631
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: Blow up?

632
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: She blew up in the seventies, I think is when

633
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: they point to, for like the success of her career,

634
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: so like you know throughout.

635
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because when he was born in sixty three,

636
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Whinny was born way early.

637
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say, and maybe this will restore your

638
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: faith or at least keep the ball in the air

639
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: a little bit. I will say that if I needed

640
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: to drop off a baby from a different place, it's

641
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: much easier to do that in a different city than

642
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: it is to do it in your neighborhood, do you

643
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, if you want to keep

644
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: this private and you want this to not turn into

645
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: like a public embarrassing thing, it's better for me, a

646
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 2: nigga in New Jersey to go to Houston, have you know,

647
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: take this baby away from these country ass poor people,

648
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: and then bring the baby back to fucking you know

649
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like to New Jersey where we can

650
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: keep this private, and to our else.

651
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: So for a few things here we are. I think

652
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: of if they had their own like motown operation, because

653
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: you know, Whitney is like a nefo baby low Ki

654
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: because he got Dione Warwick as her cousin or auntie

655
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: one of them. But like that whole family been singing,

656
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: so even if she couldn't sing from birth, she had

657
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: the singing cultivation growing up, so they had a New

658
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: Jersey motown. I think of like Tammy Terrell, who also

659
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: was a young girl in that whole music business who

660
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: was done totally wrong. So it is a possibility that

661
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: Teresa Grays was kind of like a Tamy Terrell. I

662
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: don't know the level of abuse, but clearly there was

663
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: some sexual abuse going on cause she's fifteen and she's

664
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: recking allegedly, so that is a possibility. And also it's

665
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: the sixties, so anything was happening back then. And you're right,

666
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's one thing to have a family

667
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: across town, but to have a family in Houston, you

668
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: can probably get around that a little easier. But then

669
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: if it's a family in Houston, why bring that baby

670
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: to New Jersey.

671
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

672
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing is that at the time they

673
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: say that Whitney Houston was conceived, quote unquote conceived, her

674
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: mother was on tour, and so there is the argument

675
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: that while on tour, he's managing her mother. He's sort

676
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: of like playing his responsibility of Houston. They make a

677
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: quick stop in Houston, knock a baby up, and then nine.

678
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: Much the teenagerer.

679
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: But hey, that's not how he saw it. He didn't

680
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: give a fuck. He gets this baby nine months later

681
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: and brings it back to where they reside. It's a

682
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: complete disconnect from a relationship with Houston, is the point.

683
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: Also, having been to Houston, it does feel like a

684
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: place where you would suck around and get a side kid.

685
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: M just like that's the vibe of that town. I

686
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: think we can all agree with that.

687
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

688
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: I'm currently looking up photographs of sisty Cissy Houston pregnant.

689
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well but there's multiple pregnant with multiple It

690
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: wasn't just it wasn't just Whitney.

691
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: I need to see a picture of her pregnant in

692
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty three.

693
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: But to your point, it does seem like maybe there's

694
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: a world where a dude who's just sort of in

695
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: motion fucking around might mess up and have a kid

696
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: and then have to take on a new kind of

697
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: responsibility with that child.

698
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: My question is, also, how did she even get to

699
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: him if it was the sixties and he was a

700
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: slick manager from New Jersey and she was just a

701
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: little bumping from Houston.

702
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: She even she he was forty two when she was conceived,

703
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: forty two, fourteen.

704
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: But here's what I'll say. This is also the era

705
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: where like niggas were doing talent show at the mall,

706
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like you, I think it

707
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: was a.

708
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: Much extreme girl's time. Think Jimmy Early and Laurel Yeah,

709
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: like sixteen.

710
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

711
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: It was just like you could truly just find talent

712
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 2: on the streets because people were were hegerly showing their

713
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: their wants, whereas now you just do it on fucking

714
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: TikTok you know Instagram. Yeah, it's a different game. But

715
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: you used to do it at the at the neighborhood

716
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: fucking wreck spot, you know what I mean. And then

717
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: a manager would show up and he'd be like, I

718
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: like your locals.

719
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: I like what that My name is John Houston.

720
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: If she has multiple brothers and sisters, then clearly she

721
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: wasn't barren. Something like what if she couldn't have kids

722
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: and they stole the baby?

723
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh oh to give to give to her? I like that.

724
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: But no, there's like, yeah, yeah, what if.

725
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: She is she the only girl? Because what if she

726
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: is one of the girl.

727
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: I think she's the only girl.

728
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 3: Yes, let's just allegedly to everything I'm saying because I

729
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: don't I can't afford to get shoot, I'm just.

730
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Listen, the lawsuit has been stacking since

731
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: the moment you started this ship. As soon as we

732
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: turn this off, you're your own responsibility. This podcast will

733
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: not take on any of the weight of the lawsuits

734
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 2: heading your way. That's said one of the other things,

735
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Oh you farted, no, please, you're getting sued and you're

736
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: farting by yourself. These are fats mil One of the

737
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: other things that I wanted to look up was a

738
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: little bit more about Teresa Graves, And one of the

739
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: things that they point out is that I mentioned before,

740
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: she sort of becomes like the first black lady to

741
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: take on a lead role in a drama series. This

742
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: was an offshoot of a movie I guess that they

743
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: shot of the same name. I think it's called like

744
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: what about Chrissy or some shit. I don't know, I

745
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: am watching shit. But she was very successful in this show,

746
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: does a few other projects, but then walks away from

747
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: the industry. They say around the time of Whitney, Houston

748
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: sort of becoming more of like a rising figure, right that, like,

749
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 2: as Whitney starts to build notoriety, she sort of takes

750
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: a step back from the industry. Now, what they point

751
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: to as the cause of this is she becomes a

752
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: Jehovah's witness. She basically like fully dedicates herself to the

753
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: ways of Jehovah and walks away from entertainment. Under the

754
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 2: basic presumption that this is like work of the devil,

755
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: and I need to get back to, you know, my

756
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: religious roots been.

757
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: That Joe Jackson has something to do with this, I

758
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: don't know, yo.

759
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say it because I felt crazy.

760
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: It feels like there's a.

761
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: Jackson Hall Joe Jackson somewhere in here. I don't know

762
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 3: how ye something to.

763
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: Do with that weird ass space he Scott looking.

764
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 3: Because Joe Jackson has an outside hiall, Yeah.

765
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: Sure he has any inside children. Yeah, that nigga was

766
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: that nigga died looking like a kiddie cat. I know

767
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: he's got everywhere.

768
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: Watching the Jackson even watch the Jackson Final American Dream movie.

769
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: He was following Catherine home from school. You coming back

770
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: from the war, And I do think from school.

771
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: I do think there's a world where if I'm if

772
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm Joe, if I'm fucking John Houston, and I can't

773
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: get my young uh bride, child, concubine, whatever the fuck

774
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: you want to call it in line, I might need

775
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: some advice. Who am I gonna call? But but Joe Joe.

776
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: Jackson or they weren't a thing in nineteen sixty three,

777
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: though the Jackson's, the Jacksons didnt looved to like the

778
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: late Yeah, because because Michael was born in nineteen fifty eight.

779
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm sinking. But I'm saying that I don't

780
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: think part of I don't think Joe was a part

781
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: of the conception. I think Joe was like advice he

782
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: sought down the line when things started to become more complicated.

783
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: The kids said, you know, he fucked the kid. When

784
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: he fucked the kid. He he's that type of person.

785
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: Joe gets involved when he needs a little help managing.

786
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 3: Maybe they have a terrible nigga convention, and then he

787
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: rans to Joe Jackson, and Joe was like, have a

788
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: particular set of skills, and then he helped him out.

789
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: He's like, excuse me, Joe. I just want to say,

790
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: as a scumbag to a scumbag, I really love your

791
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: work man.

792
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: You you did a bangup job.

793
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: Literally wow, long time, first time.

794
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I am seeing the welts on some

795
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: of your boys backs and that is wow.

796
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: The abuse that you have put your children through.

797
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: I if that is phenomenal work.

798
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: I'm somewhat of a predator myself. Yeah.

799
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: If I could break my daughter down halfway his bad

800
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: as you broke down Tito.

801
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: Joe.

802
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: I just want to say, man, if I could get

803
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: my daughter to change the color of her skin, if

804
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: I could beat her senseless the way you've beat your boys.

805
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: That so yeah, maybe like they were all there having

806
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 3: like a brotherhood smoke of terribleness and gave him some tips.

807
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: But now I got to go down one of my

808
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: rabbit holes to like figure this out because I want

809
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: the best for my conspiracy.

810
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: Here's the other part of the conspiracy that gets a

811
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 2: little weird is that Teresa Grave, she becomes this Jehovah's witness.

812
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: She dies at fifty four. She doesn't make it very old,

813
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: in part because she is like become a bit of

814
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: like a recluse. She doesn't really interact with any version

815
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: of the industry at all. She just like lives in

816
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: her neighborhood, doesn't want anybody around her to know that

817
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: she's like a famous person in any sort of way.

818
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 2: Just wants to live by herself, praising the God above her.

819
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: And she is taking care of her sick mother. She

820
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: lives in a house with her, and then the mother

821
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: is at the hospital one day and a space heater

822
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: starts a fire in the house and it kills Teresa Graves.

823
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: Teresa Graves dies of smoke in elation and burning and

824
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: her mother pass No, her mother's in the hospital at

825
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: the time, She's just in the house alone.

826
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: Was she asleep?

827
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: And that's where it gets a little gray. Is nobody

828
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: is like definitively saying what she was doing at the time.

829
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: I think they implied that she was sleeping, but it's

830
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent clear. It's more that like she

831
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: just you know, fire happens, she can't get out, she's trapped,

832
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: she dies.

833
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: That feels crazy. Did she sleep upstairs or downstairs? I

834
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: have only more questions.

835
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was an upstairs situation, but I didn't.

836
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't know.

837
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: Does it seem crazy to y'all?

838
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you you do?

839
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: This is the assassination.

840
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm not implying anything. I'm truly just giving you all information.

841
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: And the quiet that you guys are putting out makes

842
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: me feel like that's what you're implying.

843
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: It feels like foul play. Yes, that this is not.

844
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 2: Just a person who mismanaged their space heater.

845
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: First of all, we've all mismanaged the space heater. That's

846
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: not even a do that on a daily basis. Come on, okay,

847
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: like it, over it, whatever you gotta do. We've all,

848
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: we've all.

849
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 2: I'd like to encourage you both to stop that. But yeah,

850
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: I hear you.

851
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh you've never done No, I'm just.

852
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: Telling you you don't have to do it. You don't

853
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: have to keep doing it. If we all know we're mismanaging,

854
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: let's all, let's be.

855
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have a space heater now. I

856
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 1: got Central maybe my ship.

857
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: I just like having my space heater on. I like

858
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: the sound of it, and I like, okay warmth.

859
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: It's they're very comforting, especially if they got the red back,

860
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: like it glows red so you know it's hot.

861
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

862
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: Those are like your house is gonna catch on fire.

863
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that killed people.

864
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Still standing maybe thirty six years tis down.

865
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: That's easy, bake of it. Yeah, I think that's gonna

866
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 2: kill somebody.

867
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just a random that's a random way to die, though.

868
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: That's like this is us when the dad dies from

869
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: a crockpie.

870
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: It is a very random way to die.

871
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: It's small appliances killing people. I never feel like that's

872
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: not it.

873
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: It never feels it doesn't feel real.

874
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I ain't never killed nobody.

875
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: Mmm, i'd say added years to my life.

876
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Uh, I think the CDC would disagree.

877
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 7: I think I think the FDA, I think the people

878
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 7: in charge of our medicine probably don't agree with that.

879
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 2: But but yeah, I hear what you guys are saying.

880
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, what was Whitney doing in two

881
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: thousand and two?

882
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: Not good? Is that hartbreak Hotel era?

883
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: Uh? It might be. Yeah, I think that's around harp. Yeah,

884
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: that's where the short little Bob came.

885
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: In and yeah.

886
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're nineties past knowing that she does drugs

887
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: and we're just like, I don't know she does drugs?

888
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: Who care?

889
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? One was Your Love is My Love? Because that's

890
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a that's a Whitney. I don't

891
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mind that Whitney.

892
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: That's the Whitney you love the most.

893
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: No, No, Barbara Walters interview or that not not Barbara

894
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: wats what's the other white lady?

895
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

896
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 3: I think that's this interview that's cracky crack yep, that

897
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 3: was crack whack here.

898
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

899
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: So and so that's the other thing that they point

900
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: out is that Teresa Graves and John Houston actually died

901
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: six months apart from each other. That like my grandparents,

902
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: of one person dying, the other person dies, And they

903
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: also point to that being one of Whitney's sort of

904
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: biggest public crumblings, right, that that's when we see her

905
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: fall apart the most is around the death of what

906
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: we thought was just John Houston, but the Internet would

907
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: argue is also Teresa Graves in her mourning her biological mother.

908
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: You think Whitney knew, That's what some of the Internet says.

909
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, and and we're end of this stuff you watched?

910
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: Was this like all speculation videos or did you see

911
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: any like interviews? No?

912
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: No, no, this is all speculation.

913
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: There.

914
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 2: There's zero footage of Teresa Graves in conversation.

915
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: It's like a faceless YouTube, just a voice.

916
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then occasionally, like they'll keep like trying to

917
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: show pictures of her and they'll be like, she was

918
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: so beautiful, she wore her hair this, But they only

919
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: have footage from like three different shows that were like

920
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: all right next to each other, and it's like, the

921
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: bitch didn't wear her hair like that. You just only

922
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: have six picture. Yeah, she probably changed her hair up

923
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: every week, but y'all only got these six pictures, so

924
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

925
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeahn wow.

926
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll The last little feeling that I'll throw

927
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: you all's way, because this was the feeling I had

928
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: when I read all of this, is that I don't

929
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: necessarily know that I believe that Teresa Graves is Whitney

930
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: Houston's biological mother. I'm not sold, but I'm not unsold.

931
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. But more important, I do think that

932
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: there is something very unspoken and almost sinister in the

933
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: way that religion, specifically turning into a Jehovah's witness tends

934
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: to take our stars the fuck out that like Prince,

935
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: this lady, even Michael Jackson to some extent, their their

936
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: relationship with being Jehovah's witnesses really ends in a bad

937
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 2: way for a lot of celebrities. And I'm not sure

938
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: what the fuck that is.

939
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you stop, you stop, you stop

940
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: celebrating your birthday, you lose your true north, you know

941
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: what I mean?

942
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: Are like fun great? Yeah, And and the fact that

943
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: Jacksons were raised Jehovah's witness from day one is just like.

944
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something pretty uh toxic in whatever is happening

945
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: over there. And I recognize that religion already is pretty bad.

946
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Christianity is already Catholic Tholicism that won't be my

947
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 3: ass a little bit is already.

948
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: Now, you fought back, then you got niggas. Ain't gonna

949
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: say you got your ass. It was a fair fight.

950
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: It was like ass, but you know, but yeah, yeah,

951
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: religion plays a big part in a lot of black

952
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: people as a whole. Just in a talk hole like

953
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: this with religion, and.

954
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: That's why you got it, and that's why you gotta

955
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: respect Langston's take.

956
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: Come on home, y'all, Come on home. You're so worried

957
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: about temperature, you ain't even being your free self. We

958
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: are tropical peoples.

959
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: Me a headache. I get a headache when i'm musty.

960
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about hell.

961
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: All the tusty you want, all the tustsy you.

962
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: Get as and not gonna have no refreeving Hell, You're

963
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 3: just gonna be just musty, like.

964
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: You don't get to put the tustsy on like regular.

965
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: You gotta eat it, but you have it. You can't

966
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: have as much tusty as you will of course it's hell.

967
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: It's whatever. The worst thing you can imagine is. But

968
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: it's funny down there, y'all ain't gonna be cracking jokes

969
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: with you.

970
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Heaven does not seem fun or funny.

971
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm in heaven with Teresa Rays you will and it's

972
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: gonna be a dry ass conversation, but you'll be with her.

973
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: And I will get my confirmation.

974
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Even when they talk about it in the Bible, it's like,

975
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: I do not want to sing about how great God

976
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: is for a thousand years. That doesn't sound fun. I

977
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it for an hour on Sundays

978
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: down here.

979
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 3: If they do like the contemporary gospel, I can sing that,

980
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: like if we got some like Tasha Cobbs up there

981
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: and it's lit like what gen were all you gonna

982
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: be thinking in because like that's what the Bible was

983
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 3: doing then, Like that's what Heaven was like a thousand

984
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: years ago. I think Heaven got a little base in,

985
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: like a little trap gospel.

986
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: Now. It doesn't matter sooner or later, I'm gonna want

987
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: to sing about shaking ass. It's just how it's gonna happen.

988
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: I think your heaven also can like be your personal heaven.

989
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 3: Like maybe my personal heaven has American Deli and that's

990
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 3: what I'll have.

991
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into too many details, but

992
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: my personal heaven definitely has some hell like qualities.

993
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem.

994
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: That's a issue.

995
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: Is that is that your personal heaven is gonna have

996
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: some d tales that God's.

997
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: Like you cannot have in heaven.

998
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: Like, look, we can't have a strip club up here,

999
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: my guy?

1000
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 2: Did you just say pussy coasters?

1001
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: WHOA?

1002
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 3: And you think you're gonna have it in Hell?

1003
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: I think it exists in Hell. I don't think you

1004
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: get to have it.

1005
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: But I know you're just sitting there burning up, mustin,

1006
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: get up, sweating. Your hair can't last your you have

1007
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 3: no haircut in Hell. That's just nothing. Your ball's fucking stink.

1008
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 3: It's just not great.

1009
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: I will say, you don't your hairlines fucked up in Hell?

1010
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't like that. That would be hard.

1011
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 3: I don't like you.

1012
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: You get like a rainbow fading Hell.

1013
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: You know, so I keep the hair.

1014
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: It just like a fu up version like the Black

1015
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: Power Ranger and his ship. You remember that, like that?

1016
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: Yes, they lined him up with a ladle God.

1017
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing is he's continued you to to get

1018
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: that same haircut his whole life, and I think he

1019
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: was just cursed.

1020
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: With like maybe that she saw his hair grows.

1021
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean.

1022
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Then get some fucking Beijing. They got it, they go.

1023
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 3: It's just how his head is. So maybe the.

1024
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: I think, bro, we're not considering how like specific a

1025
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: human being that was. This is the nigga that break

1026
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: dances and does karate.

1027
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: He is a I think ben diagram is way way,

1028
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: way more circles than you think. I don't know.

1029
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: I think he was like a really a one on

1030
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: one ass dude, and I think that hairline reflected it.

1031
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: All right, I agree to disagree.

1032
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 3: All the flips has kind of made his hairline ship.

1033
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: That's just gravity.

1034
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: I want all our fans, all the little mamas out there,

1035
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: if you do karate and break dancing, please send us

1036
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: an email.

1037
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: And let's let's be clear about this, because I don't

1038
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: want this to just be oh, I've done both. No

1039
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: motherfucker we're talking about. You are top tier in both categories.

1040
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: You need to truly be able to throw a video

1041
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: where you do that body roll and then a fucking

1042
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 2: high kick the same way Zach did, and it better

1043
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: look good.

1044
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying body roll. I want to see

1045
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: a windmill. I'm gonna have to be good. But like

1046
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: a Jadakiss level.

1047
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: Got to be better than Jada being crazy crazy.

1048
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: That's a difficult move. You could just be like that.

1049
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: That's a difficult move.

1050
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: You're being wild And Jadakis looked so tired when he

1051
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: was doing his no we're doing with hell.

1052
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: No exactly, Jada and Helen not in the eighties.

1053
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: He had to have.

1054
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 3: No.

1055
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: He's never looked older in his life doing doing weird break.

1056
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: Damns, Listen, we gotta wrap it up because I don't

1057
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: want to disperse the great name of Jadakiss.

1058
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: I think we did it. It sounds like we all.

1059
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 3: He's very much smersed our ready.

1060
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: I think Jada's back, baby. He runs a business with

1061
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: his daddy.

1062
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: You doing, He's are great. You could raise kids off

1063
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 1: with those bars. So much stuff I learned from Jada.

1064
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: Kiss Yeah, Mel, could you tell the people where they

1065
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: can find you what cool shit you have going on?

1066
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: Yes, I am at it. Smel Mitch on Instagram, I

1067
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 3: am the baddest Mitch on Twitter and TikTok and basically

1068
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 3: everything else. Yeah, I'm trying to think when I have

1069
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: coming up, just look out, you know, just hopefully you'll

1070
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: see my name in lights like Tina in twenty twenty

1071
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: four and leading role opposite of I'm manifesting kissing somebody

1072
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: in the mouth on screen. I want to, like on

1073
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: TV okay, and then I want to I want us

1074
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: to have so much chemistry that people like speculate that

1075
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: we're dating in real life. So that's my goal for

1076
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 3: twenty twenty before lookout for whoever that is. I don't know.

1077
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put it in the atmosphere that that's

1078
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: my twenty twenty fourth thing that I do. So look

1079
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 3: out for whatever.

1080
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: You want to kiss so sloppy that people are like, man, they.

1081
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: Got fucking real, that's all one that ain't out of

1082
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: the Yeah, damn well, we ad the podcast are rooting

1083
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 3: for you.

1084
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: We believe that that sounds like a beautiful thing to manifest.

1085
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: You kissed on screen, right, I have kissed on screen.

1086
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: I've only ever been on cartoons. I never kissed on

1087
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: a live action TV show.

1088
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 2: It ain't awkward, Yeah, it's not fun. Yeah I didn't

1089
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: I don't like it at all.

1090
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Right, when do they time it out in the day?

1091
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: Is it like is it like first scene, or is

1092
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: at the end of the day.

1093
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: It kind of depends who you are kissing. If you're

1094
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: kissing like the star, it's whenever the fuck they fit

1095
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: you in, like you're you know, if you ain't the

1096
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: main person, it's whatever their day is looking like. If

1097
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: it's like a guest star that you get to kiss

1098
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: or have to kiss, they'll usually squeeze that at the

1099
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: end of the day and send a bunch of people

1100
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: home so that it's not it's less awkward on set,

1101
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: less whatever the damn.

1102
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: I never even thought about that.

1103
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't give a fuck about you unless you're

1104
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: the Yeah, I don't think.

1105
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: I never played a character on TV that had a kiss.

1106
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: You don't need to manifest I'm saying. I'm always just

1107
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: like funny lawyer coming.

1108
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 2: Would nobody kiss this nigga?

1109
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: This is Googleball?

1110
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: Who you think it's him?

1111
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: Nobody nobody kissing the weed smoking best friend.

1112
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: See I guess.

1113
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 3: So you know.

1114
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: That's rights over the strikes over twenty twenty four, Get

1115
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: get Mail, Get Bory Kissed. That's the campaign we're starting here, Bory.

1116
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 2: You want to tell the people where they can find you?

1117
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got cool guy joke sety seven on Instagram.

1118
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at Hilarities in Cleveland, Cleveland, January twelfth

1119
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: and thirteenth in the Big Room. That'll be fun. The

1120
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: weekend after that, I'm gonna be a comedy bar Seattle headlining.

1121
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: And then I got some more dates that I don't

1122
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: know on I don't because I don't have them yet.

1123
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: Tell yeah, and you can follow me at Langston Herman.

1124
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1125
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: And I ain't got no dates coming up right now,

1126
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm chilling, I don't know, but follow me. And also,

1127
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: if you want to buy merch, we have merched now,

1128
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: you can get that all at my mama told me

1129
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: dot merch central dot com. Is that yeah, mama told

1130
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: me dot merg central dot com. Buy that ship. Why

1131
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 2: not be dripping in our shit?

1132
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: Uh?

1133
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: And as always, if you want to send us your

1134
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: own drops, your own conspiracies. If you want to accuse

1135
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: someone of also being a different daddy for Whitney Houston

1136
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: than hear her current daddy, send it all to my

1137
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: mama Pottage, gmail dot com.

1138
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: Nothing about that.

1139
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1140
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: I just wanted to support you. You asked when I

1141
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: became your biggest detractor, and I took it personally.

1142
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: So now I'm okay, Well, thank you so much.

1143
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1144
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: Really it really got in my head when you said

1145
00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: that I didn't like that.

1146
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 2: Uh and and like subscribe, do all the things you're

1147
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: supposed to do to a podcast. It means the world

1148
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: to us, that's the whole thing, By bitch.

1149
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: The governments grow chips.

1150
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 5: In yours all.

1151
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Kuala Bears are racist. The host layer host the money,

1152
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: our ships inventing turkey stuff. Y'all can't tell me.

1153
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 4: Govern