1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Florida has led the nation throughout COVID. Governor to Santa's 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: refused to bend the knee to the media, to the 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: left wing mob on lockdowns. He protected Floridians against vaccine mandates. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: But part of being a great leader is also surrounding 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: yourself with other leaders, and he's done that with Florida's 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Latipo, picking the right guy, picking 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: a guy who isn't afraid to stare down the media 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: as well, that isn't afraid to stare down the mob 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: for what is right. He actually follows the science. He's 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: a brilliant man. He got his m d and his 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: PhD from Harvard. He was a professor at n y 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: U and then also U c l A before coming 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: to Florida to serve as the state's surgeon general. But 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: he has also led Florida is the first state to 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: recommend against vaccinating healthy children for COVID. He's conducted his 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: own research through the Florida Department of Health, raising serious 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: concerns about the impact the vaccines have had on myocarditis 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: and heart injury, especially for young men. Being unafraid to 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: bring that information to light, to the public, and they're 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: also going to continue to lead the charge. I mean, 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Governor to Santis has announced that he's going to petition 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: the state Supreme Court to convene a grand jury to 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: investigate and it all wrongdoing with respect to the COVID 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: nineteen vaccines about lies that we've been told from the 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: vaccine manufacturers vaccine injury. Florida has also created the Public 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: Health Integrity Committee, which Dr Lattipo is going to be coordinating, 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: to try to combat a lot of the lies that 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: we've been told by the CDC. But most importantly, Dr 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: Latti pose just a brave man. He's a good man. 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: He stands firm and his beliefs. He fights for what 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: is right, and he stands up against the mob for us, 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: for Floridians, but I think even more importantly for the country, 33 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: because Florida's leadership matters. I've also had the chance to 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: meet Dr Latipo and his wife on election night, and 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: he is such a kind man, so is his wife. 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: So it's just a really good person and I think 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: that helps shape why he's able to fight in the 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: way that he is. So I'm really looking forward to 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: this conversation with him as a Floridian, as someone who 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: just really deeply respects him and his leadership and what 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: he's doing not only for Florida, but for the rest 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: of the country as well. So, Dr Atlattipo, I got 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: to meet you and your wife Brianna on election night. 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: I was so excited to meet you. I truly deeply 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: respect you and what you've done and just being a 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: leader throughout COVID. I know that's not easy to do, 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: so I just want to thank you, and it was 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: such an honor to meet you and your lovely wife. 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: She was so kind. Oh thanksfuly So I'm really glad 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: to have gotten to meet you too, and I know 51 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: we had a great conversation, and I remain in admiration 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: of the things you shared with us. So that is genuine, 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: and you know that is straight out. I really bire 54 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: what you what you shared and what you've done well. 55 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: And it's been so important to have people like you 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: with you know, who are esteemed what you have worked 57 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: your way through UH for your medical degree, because you know, 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: I can be out there talking about some of these things, 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: but we need people of your stature out there fighting 60 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: the good fight, you know. Before you became the Florida 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Surgeon General. You started writing columns just you know, kind 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: of raising questions about the group think the overall narrative 63 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: in the country regarding COVID. Why did you decide to 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: speak out? Then? Well, you know, I'm glad you met 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: in my life because it really was it was a 66 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: it was a team decision. My life and I had 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: been on the same page with COVID policy since the beginning, 68 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: and my wife. You can go to medical school, but 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: you don't need you don't need a medical medical training 70 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: to recognize things like fear and sort of authoritarian approaches 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: and ear based decision making and policies that are harmful 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: to human beings and to liberty and to health in fact. 73 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: And so seeing all that, we both just felt that 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: and is, as you know often times with with partners, 75 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: it really is a group decision because you're both putting 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: yourself out there when one of you says something that 77 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: publicly that is not popular. So we we made a 78 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: decision earlier early on that it was it was really 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: important to speak up with all that was going on, 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: and you know, we never stopped talking. So you know, 81 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: what kind of reaction did you get because you were 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: at u c l A at the time. What sort 83 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: of reaction did you get after speaking out? It started 84 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: out with just the first one or two articles being like, oh, Joe, 85 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: that's so interesting, we hadn't thought of that before. And 86 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: it was the Wall Street Journal, so that's cool. Often 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: in academia, people ba the will try to publish shop eds, 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: and it's not it's not often that you're able to 89 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: publish something in a in a in a newspapers as 90 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: prestigious in the wah Street Journal is an amazing newspaper, 91 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: so whiles from journal, and obviously there are others like 92 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: the New York Times and the Washington Post. But so 93 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: initially there was a lot of gratitude for both getting 94 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: ideas out there and even for the u c l 95 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: A brand, if you will, for you publishing and something 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: like the Wall Street Journal. And that didn't that didn't 97 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: last long because eventually, especially when when the Black Lives 98 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: Matter movement really spelled up after George Floyd was tragically killed, 99 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: there became an atmosphere of more of more doctor and 100 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: discipline became became the the accepted way to to look 101 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: at things that U c l A. And at many 102 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: other universities, and the things really went downhill. At that point, 103 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: I started receiving a lot of you know, why is 104 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: you're writing this, and you know, what's what is Joe's 105 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: real what's its ulterior motive for for doing, you know, 106 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: for saying things like this, and really a lot of 107 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: negativity that's around. That's about the time that things turned quick. 108 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Commercial break back with Florida's Surgeon General, Dr Joseph Ladappo. 109 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: I think what's sort of scary is that, you know, 110 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: throughout COVID, we keep hearing, oh, there's a consensus around COVID, 111 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: the science is settled. But what we've seen is it's 112 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: actually a forced consensus because we've seen doctors lose their 113 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: medical licenses for speaking out. You look at the state 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: of California, where you were previously before coming to Florida, 115 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: they have a law going into effect that could punish 116 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: doctors for sharing what they call, you know, quote unquote misinformation, 117 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: which is really just anything that defy, you know, defy 118 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: sort of this group think narrative on COVID. Why why 119 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: would we want a forced consensus on medicine that that 120 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the right approach. Sir, you're exactly right, 121 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: and why would you need that kind of law if 122 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: indeed there was a consensus. Obviously there's not a consensus. 123 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: It's a forced consensus, as you state, and as we're seeing, 124 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: for example, in the Twitter files that Elon musk Is 125 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: is releasing, and we've seen so many other examples of 126 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: the use of essentially coercion, threatening people's medical licenses, threatening 127 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: people's board certification to gain compliance. So you're right, it's 128 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: terrible for science. Consensus is always terrible for science. I mean, 129 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: you only need to be familiar with middle school science 130 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: history to know that, whether it's Galileo or or other sciences, 131 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: new consensus, the people who are in fact in ways 132 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: it's it's actually anti science because the individuals who have 133 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: to advanced science most briskly have been people who have 134 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: not at all stuck with the consensus. So it is 135 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: bad policy, it's bad ethically, it's bad for science, it's 136 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: bad for humanity. I hope they stopped doing it so well. 137 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: It also just concerns me because I think it speaks 138 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: to maybe this bigger issue that's happening in the country, 139 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: which is the lack of critical thinking and you would 140 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: think of in all, in all of industries, in the 141 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: medical repression, you would want critical thinkers. Yeah, that that 142 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: is definitely true. And I know that's probably been a 143 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: concern that predated the pandemic. I think there's been there 144 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: have been many scholars who have been concerned about critical 145 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: thinking and the direction that universities were taking with with 146 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: sort of more orthodoxy in terms of thinking and in 147 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: terms of what is considered acceptable and in not acceptable. 148 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: And I think it's probably that's probably a greater, more 149 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: global problem, if you will. And just to just to 150 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: really strengthening your point, I would add it that looking 151 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: at even the fact that people like Dr Fauci and 152 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: the Biden administration were able to get away with what 153 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: they did for so long, unfortunately, does speak to some 154 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: vulnerability in the general public in terms of critical assessment 155 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: of information. Well. And it's also one thing I've learned 156 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: throughout this my conversations with so many people, is just 157 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: how much control the ni H has on what is 158 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: deemed consensus and in terms of giving out grants and 159 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: really controlling research and really sort of science silencing people 160 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: with that of people worrying about oh Am, I not 161 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: going to get a grant if I speak up, if 162 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I question you know, the authority on this, since Dr 163 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: Fauci is science according to you know, talk a little 164 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: bit about that, you know, and sort of the way 165 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: that works. So that is that is an underappreciated but 166 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: very true phenomenon. So for example, when I was in 167 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: U c l A at the time that I left 168 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: about a year ago, I had at that time, I 169 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: think four can i age, So I had four grants 170 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: that we're funding clinical science clinical trials at at U 171 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: c l A. And since that time, interestingly, I'm in 172 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: a situation now where I'm concerned about whether or not 173 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: I'll be able to obtain future grant funding because I 174 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: haven't told the line and that that is, that's something 175 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:41,479 Speaker 1: that could that could factor into evaluations when grant applications 176 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: are submitted, and in some ways it's even more real 177 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: than that for me, believe it or not. So four grants, 178 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I've probably had one of the most. It's not it's 179 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: not the most grants for a faculty member who was 180 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: I've been at U c l A for a few years, 181 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: not not that long, but I was doing very well 182 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: in the department, which was part of the reason I 183 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: was able to continue writing, and they had trouble finding 184 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: a way to silence Nek because I was fortunately doing 185 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: good work. But believe it or not, one of my 186 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: major grants on HIV U c l A won't release it. 187 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: So this idea, I mean, I'm actually I'm trying to 188 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: work with the n I right now. So this idea 189 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: that that that science is just science and both university 190 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: politics or ni H politics don't play a role. It's 191 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: it would be nice if that were the case, but 192 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: unfortunately it's not the case. It really does, it really does. 193 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: It really does make a difference. Was that a hard 194 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: decision then to give up some of that and then 195 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: come to Florida and take on this big role as 196 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: the Florida Surgeon General. Incredibly easy decision for me, actually, 197 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: I should say for my wife. For my wife because 198 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: when I got the call, literally out of the blue, 199 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: from from Governor to santis is Chief of Staff A Lucas, 200 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: Who's Who's a guy I like a lot, And I was. 201 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: I was surprised and fly I didn't think that. I 202 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: didn't think I would do it because I was tenured 203 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: at U c l A and we had actually just moved, 204 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: but we literally we were still getting stuff out of boxes. 205 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: We made one of those pandemic moves where we moved 206 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: out of a condo into a house, just because I 207 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: think a lot of people made that kind of transition 208 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: during the pandemics so their kids would have more space 209 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: to play. And we had just moved. And when I 210 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: when I got the call, and when I told my 211 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: wife when she got home, she immediately and I always 212 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: I trust my wife. There's amazing instincts. He immediately said 213 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: do it. I was surprised, but that I knew what 214 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: I needed to do. So it was certainly difficult to 215 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: put everything together and make the physical arrangements. And we 216 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: have three kids and they're small, so we were We're 217 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: trying to do school and get our stuff across and 218 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: of course start the job and start my appointment at 219 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: University of Florida. But definitely incredibly worth it. I mean, 220 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful to the governor for for appointing 221 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: me and to have the opportunity to be some counter 222 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: force to all of the nonsense and just be evil 223 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: frankly that we've seen from from a lot of the 224 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: general the general scientific community, in terms of the leadership. Well, 225 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: it's like, what is that saying, you know, when we 226 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: make plans? God laughs, Right, you're talking about how you 227 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: guys you know, uh, you know, dr you're talking about 228 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, Florida really has led on all of this, 229 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: which I'm very proud to be a Floridian to have 230 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: you as my surgeon general and governor to Santas is 231 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: my my governor. But you know that sort of the 232 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: problem with this consensus. You know, they've been wrong about masks, 233 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: they've been wrong about lockdowns, long about vaccine. So it's 234 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: good that Florida has led on all this stuff. It 235 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: was a first date to recommend against vaccinating healthy children. 236 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: You have conducted your own study on miacarditis and heart injury, 237 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: additional research that you're conducting through the University of Florida. 238 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: What have you found in terms of vaccine injury. Well, 239 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,599 Speaker 1: there's a lot of information out there, a lot of 240 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: published studies. And it's one of the sad aspects of 241 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: the pandemically so is that when a study yields unfavorable findings, 242 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: it just gets buried. It doesn't get picked up by 243 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: mainstream media. And unfortunately, a lot of people don't know 244 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: about because of that. But the bottom line is that 245 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: the scale of adverse events after these m RNA COVID 246 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: NTEN vaccines is orders of magnitude worse than any other 247 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: widely used vaccines as the bottom line, and there are 248 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: multiple studies that have shown this. Most recently, he mentioned 249 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: an autopsy you may you were you referred to an 250 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: autopsy study that was published in in a very good 251 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: journal Clinical Research in Cardiology. And basically, what these scientists 252 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: did was they looked at people who died suddenly, unexpectedly 253 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: at home within a few weeks of COVID nineteen vaccination, 254 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: and they found that four out of thirty five people 255 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: actually had a pattern of myer carditis that was essentially 256 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: specific for the mr and A COVID nineteen vaccines. So 257 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: if these findings are generalizable, were the implication is that 258 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people, just a proportion of the 259 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: people who have died within a few weeks of m 260 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: RNA COVID nineteen vaccines actually because of cardiac information leading 261 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: to a cardiac arrhythmia after these vaccines. And these people, 262 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: because they die at home, they're not they're not showing 263 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: up in these studies of minocarditis is no one, no one. 264 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: They're not showing up to a hospital with chest pain 265 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: and shortness of breadth of those types of symptoms. So 266 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot more that we don't know about the 267 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: adverse events of these vaccines. And we're working and other 268 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: researchers are working also to braace that cap well. And 269 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a concern with the m RNA in general, 270 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: is the fact that we don't really have previous examples 271 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: of m RNA being in the market place in this way. Correct. Yeah, 272 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: that's correct, that's correct. It's been something that's been worked 273 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: in really laboratory settings and some clinical work, but generally 274 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: not yielding favorable findings. And science science takes unexpected directions, 275 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: and that's okay, that's good. But really, this this atmosphere 276 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: of of consensus, of forced consensus, almost like an iron curtain, 277 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: if you would. That's that's that is just soaking everyone 278 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: in terms of what you have to believe and it 279 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: must be good and if it's bad, it can't be true. 280 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: That is that's really the that's really the bad, that's 281 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: really the bad part. That's where the harm is coming from. 282 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick commercial break, stay with us. 283 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Is MR and A safe. That's that's a great question, 284 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's probably Scientifically, it's probably a 285 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: difficult question to answer. I would say that the uses 286 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: of m R and A currently and application specifically related 287 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: to these vaccines, there I would not consider these vaccines safe. 288 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: Just the risk profile, the safety profiled these vaccines is 289 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: is unfortunately out of this world in comparison to other vaccines. 290 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: They're definitely not safe. There are a bunch of other 291 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: m R and A products coming down the line, and 292 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: each will have to be evaluated. But hopefully we can 293 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: shed this this this this this current relationship kind of 294 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: this love affair that that the media and the scientific 295 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: community are trying to push the latest to these vaccines 296 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: so we can evaluate the technology in an unbiased way. Well, 297 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: and you know, back to the point that we've been 298 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: when making is you know, force consensus is bad, right, 299 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: everything should be we question. We're a healthier society when 300 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: everything can be questioned, which is you know, my approach 301 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: from a media standpoint, and I'm glad your approach from 302 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: a medical standpoint, and thank God for you. Uh, you know, 303 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: the governor had recently announced that he petitioned the state 304 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: Supreme Court can be in a grand jury to investigate 305 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: vaccine manufacturers, to investigate if we've been told the truth 306 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: on a lot of this stuff. You know, knowing what 307 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: you have found out so far about MR and A vaccines, 308 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: what do you expect from this potential grand jury or 309 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: what are you looking for from that? Potentially taking shots 310 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: at some of my colleagues here. Unlike some of my 311 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: colleagues who are very eager to talk about things that 312 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: they haven't like papers or studies they haven't read, or 313 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: methods they don't understand, I have that I actually doing 314 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: that because I didn't go to law school, so I'm 315 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: not I'm not an expert in this area, but I 316 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: would say that my sense, just as someone who is 317 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: a physician, who is a scientist, and who has closely 318 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: observed what we what has been happening in the country 319 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: for the past few years, my sense is that Governor 320 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: to santis is announcement is something that's going to lead 321 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: us to overall more truth. Scientifically, one area that people 322 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: are still struggling with is obtaining the primary data from 323 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: these clinical trials. Advisor and moderna have done. Believe it 324 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: or not, those data are still hidden from the scientific community. 325 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: They're important because for many reasons, but one of them, 326 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: and probably one of the most important ones, is to 327 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: better understand the safety events that happened in those trials. 328 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: There's already one case that's very public of I think 329 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: a young woman, a girl adolescent I think who was 330 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: who had a just a very rare but profound injury 331 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: neurological injury that was enrolled in one of these trials, 332 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: and the study when the study was published, it was 333 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: white wah. It was basically described as being nothing significant, 334 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: and the poor girl is disabled possibly and probably for 335 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: the rest of her life. So getting a hand on 336 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: these original data they're being hidden and kept the way 337 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: sequestered from researchers is one thing that I hope comes 338 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: out of this effort overall. Considering Governor to Antis and 339 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: is just very thoughtful and think their sense for how 340 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: to approach problems. I am pretty optimistic that we are 341 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: going to be shedding light on very important areas for 342 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: the US public. Well. I've also just always found it 343 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: to be unethical, uh to push something on people who 344 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: are not at risk, UH from COVID uh push, you know, 345 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: unstudied vaccines, when most vaccines have five to ten years 346 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: of safety data. This has does not to push something 347 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: on people who are otherwise healthy and not at risk. Sadly, 348 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: so that you have to say that the doctors aren't 349 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: saying that right. That is of course, that's perfectly sensible. 350 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: But so many people who feel that way, they don't 351 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: have the support of the medical community, but they're right, 352 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: and in this case the doctors are wrong. Well, you know, 353 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: in the challenge of all of this is just decreased 354 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: faith in public health officials and in public health at large. 355 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: I know that I am much more skeptical than I 356 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: previous they was. I had a doctor try to encourage 357 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: me to get the flu shot and she got an 358 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: earful for me, you know, Like it's just we're a 359 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: lot more skeptical as a result of the things that 360 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: we've been told that have now been disproven. Um And 361 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: I know Florida's trying to address this with the Public 362 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: Health Integrity Board that you're coordinating to try to hold 363 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: the CDC accountable, to try to bring some truth to light. 364 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: What do you hope to accomplish with all of that? Yeah, 365 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: that's that's exactly right. I totally get it. With the 366 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: skepticism it is. It is far and wide now, And 367 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to tell people, because what 368 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: are you going to say? Well, it's okay, I mean, 369 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: it's okay to trust your doctor is advice now when 370 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: the doctor hasn't atoned for what he or she did, 371 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: When when he or she was trying to push you 372 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: to put some new drug, new experimental vaccine in your kid. 373 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, doctors having a tone for it, and and 374 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: I get it. And I don't even know what to say, 375 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: because it's very understandable why people don't. So many people 376 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: now do not trus the medical community. And with the 377 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: Public Health Integrity Committee, we are serving as an alternative 378 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: voice to the totally corrupt CDC in terms of COVID 379 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: nineteen policy, and we'll be addressing other issues too, But 380 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: certainly in the CDC they do a lot of great thing, 381 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: but they've been a complete failure with COVID nineteen. It's 382 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: just it's just a it's an institute of lies and 383 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: propaganda and bad science. So we are going to be 384 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: convened true experts, lots of great people. Dr jam Charia, 385 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: Dr Martin coldaf R, Christian Stable Band, and many others, 386 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: really high caliber doctor Tracy, Tracy Hoage, really high caliber physicians, scientists, epidemologists, 387 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: by statisticians, and we are going to serve as a 388 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: scientific a scientific organization that will issue scientific guidance based 389 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: in data and infused the common sense and realism in 390 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: contrast to the CDC that is, as many American RECORNISS 391 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: is literally just an institute for infectious disease COVID, Nintain propaganda. 392 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. Are very grateful to 393 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: the to the scientists who are participating, because, as you know, 394 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: sticking your neck out as a scientist is not something 395 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: that is right for everyone. I'll tell you that I've 396 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: had conversations with many people who just they totally back us, 397 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: but they just don't want the heat. And I get it. 398 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: But we had a really outstanding group of great scientists 399 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: who are also brave brain individuals, and is to be celebrated. Well, 400 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: that's really what we need is more brave people. And 401 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: it sounds like Florida really could become and is becoming 402 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: with you at the Helm for Health, if you know, 403 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: and also potentially bringing doctors down who are are tired 404 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: of being told they can't question things, or are tired 405 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: of being told they can't do their job. Bring him 406 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: to Florida and really being a leader in all of this, 407 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, and we've got the CDCAT. Now they're encouraging 408 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: once again people to wear masks. Why I really feel 409 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: bad for people because I get it that it would 410 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: seem to make sense that you put something over your 411 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: face and somehow out all the viruses and then you 412 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: don't get sick and all this other stuff. And so 413 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, it does have this I mean, I hate them, 414 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: I hate wearing them, but it does have this intuitive, 415 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: intuitive feel to it, right, that you put on a 416 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: mask and you're protected, and this is that. Unfortunately, it's 417 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: a more nuanced thing to explain why that is not true. Unfortunately, 418 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: it's been studied for many years before the pandemic, and 419 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: basically it just it either makes zero difference whatsoever, or 420 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: it makes a tiny difference. And those studies before the pandemic, 421 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: they're the studies that have mappened during the pandemic where 422 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: they found either no benefit or a tiny difference. And 423 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: and and even in that case, I'm referring to the 424 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: study of several villages I think in Banglades that the 425 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: New York Times likes to pretend to some definitive mask 426 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: of study. It basically reduced the incidence of COVID nineteen 427 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: from like twelve to eleven. And it was basically something 428 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: so simple like that. And the benefit only accrued in 429 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: older people in that study. And then there are lots 430 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: of problems with that study, but but not to get 431 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: into those. It literally is something that is not scientifically sensible, 432 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: and it's so sad because it also misses the opportunity 433 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: to promote what is scientifically sensible and beneficial. Right, you 434 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: don't hear Dr Lensky talking about people exercising. You don't 435 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: hear her talking about people reducing their intake of process foods, 436 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: increasing their intake of whole foods, right, fruits, vegetables, especially 437 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: the vegetables, the green vegetables. You don't hear her talking 438 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: about sleep. You don't hear talking about vitamin D or 439 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: getting outside and being active outside. I mean, it's so sad. 440 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: Those are things that not only improve your immune system 441 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: and strengthen your immune system, but also reduce your risk 442 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: of heart disease, of strokes, of cancer, real opportunities to 443 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: improve health, and Dr Vlensky wants to emphasize masks like 444 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: pieces of plastic, but people throw on their faces. I mean, 445 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: it's so sad, it's absurd, and I cannot wait till 446 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: we close the curtain on this version of the CDC. 447 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: I truly cannot. I cannot come soon enough. Well, and 448 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: I'm glad you had mentioned that because I was going 449 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: to be one of my questions to you is, you know, 450 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: absent from the conversations throughout COVID is being healthy. Like 451 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like we you know, we 452 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: don't talk about that, and you look at one of 453 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: the big problems and one of the big drivers of 454 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: people ending up in the hospital with COVID, things like obesity. 455 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: And yet we saw in places like New York is hey, 456 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: go get a burger and French fries, and you know, 457 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: in exchange to getting vaccinated. And it's like, well, wouldn't 458 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: the better conversation and the more prudent conversation be one 459 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: around being healthy, healthy, weight, eating healthy, living, a healthy 460 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: lifestyle a lot of the things that you just talked about. 461 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: It's so I mean, it's both perverse and just disheartening 462 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: that health is not being promoted. Products are being promoted 463 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: is a path to health and it's not true. And 464 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: by the way, health is not avoiding an illness. Hell, 465 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: help is way more than that, and it really is. 466 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: It's just so sad, and I really do hope that 467 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: more and more Americans wake up to that. It's something 468 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: that we try to promote with with health here. You 469 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: it's one of our campaigns here in Florida to try 470 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: and get people, help people, encourage people to get moving, 471 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: to improve their diet, nutrition and things like that. It's really, 472 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it breaks my heart. It almost brings 473 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: me to two tears really that people have been for 474 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: for years, for a few years now during the pandemic, 475 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: being fed all this junk about about you know, math 476 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: and staying at home and staying inside, but basically no 477 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: discussion about losing weight, things that people can control and 478 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: change to to improve their health. And it's really it's 479 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: it's very very depressing that that's what happened. But yeah, 480 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: that's that's what happened. I was thinking about it and 481 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: even just following you on Twitter and I know you 482 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: you really try to encourage people to live a healthy lifestyle. 483 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: You really actually might be one of the only truly 484 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: healthy public health officials in the country, which is just 485 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: really really sad. Doctor. You know, I've also wanted to 486 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: it's so sad, but I appreciate you encouraging healthy lifestyle 487 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: for people and leading by example, which I think is important. 488 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of you know, having these conversations 489 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: about you know, vaccines and pushing things that are unhealthy 490 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: upon people. There's also this push right now and trying 491 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: to say that things like purity blockers are safe for 492 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: young people when that's also not really fully studied. You know, 493 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: what do we know about pubity blockers in the impact 494 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: that that could have on young people in the short 495 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: term and long term? So that's the first huge problem 496 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: for long term is unknown. There have been studies that 497 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: have been done, and those studies there aren't many, but 498 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: those studies are bad. Are there They're finding that the 499 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: studies aren't bad, they're findings are bad. So for example, 500 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: there was there was a study not too long ago 501 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: published that basically showed that there might be effects on 502 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 1: bone density from some of the storm some of our 503 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: hormone blockers that are prescribed to people with with with 504 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: their transgender condition. So that's that's actually that's been the 505 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: cornerstone of our argument here in Florida, the cornerstone of 506 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: our concerns here in Florida that ultimately, because so little 507 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: was known both about the safety, especially long term safety, 508 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: and about the efficacy, because randomized trials, clinical studies have 509 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: generally been pretty biased and confounded, they've had not been 510 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: good studies, so little was known that it amounts truly 511 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: to experimentation on children. And I get it that people 512 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: think that it's the right thing for some some people, 513 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: but it will it's it's it is just it's not 514 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: okay to experiment on children, and it's not okay to 515 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: be introducing treatments and therapies that don't have that don't 516 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: have that have this type of safety profile, that are 517 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: that are risky for individuals who are not old enough 518 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: to really consent. So that's really been our our view 519 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: in Florida. It's a view by the way that of 520 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: course aligns with what most parents think. But again, similar 521 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: to COVID, they're they're being bullied by the scientific community 522 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: to resist their their intuition, their their natural impulse and 523 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: their natural beliefs and instead adopt this perverse idea that 524 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: these experimental, very risky therapies the children are quote unquote appropriate. 525 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: They're totally inappropriate, and of course concerns about you know, 526 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: the impact on fertility and a ton of things. You know. 527 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: So before we go, I know you've got a busy schedule, 528 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: so I want to respectful of your time. Uh is 529 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: there anything else you'd like to leave us with before 530 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: we go? Oh? Goodness, so that's very kind. Perhaps I 531 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: will leave with is just a just maybe a note 532 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: of encouragement out there to everyone, especially folks who feel 533 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: that they are not being their ideas are not being 534 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: represented in the main mainstream, that they feel that they're 535 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: alone and surrounded by an environment of just nonsensical nonsense 536 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: and and and false beliefs and harmful ideas. I just 537 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: want you all to know that the governor governor of 538 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: Santis is he is terrific. He is a man for 539 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: this time, and I will still will continue working with 540 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: him to define a pathway forward of sensibility coming here 541 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: from Florida. We will not stop for doing the right thing. 542 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: I think you know, Grace is behind us, and Providence 543 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: is behind us. This is absolutely the measures were taking 544 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: here in Florida are the right measures for health and 545 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: for humanity, and we are going to keep it going 546 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: until it is completely. You had mentioned that Governor to 547 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: Santis is the right man for this time, but I 548 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: believe yours as well. You are as well, so very 549 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: thankful to have you as my state's surgeon general. I really, 550 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: really truly appreciate everything you've done for the state and 551 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: being a leader on this issue, and your wife as well, 552 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: um and standing strong with you. So Dr Joseph Ladappo, 553 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: Florida Surge in General, thank you so much, sir. Thanks 554 00:34:53,200 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: Lisa Propriser h. That was Dr Joseph Ludapo. Very thankful 555 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: for his leadership in the state of Florida. It is 556 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: not easy being him. The amount of criticism, the amount 557 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: of attention, the amount of you know, people just going 558 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: after you personally should not be underestimated in you know, 559 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: the attacks on him. So he is bold, he is brave, 560 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: and he is a leader, and we are so thankful 561 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: to have him this state of Florida and just also 562 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: in the country period. So I appreciate you guys listening 563 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: at Home. I want to thank John Cassio and my 564 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: producer for putting together the episode every Monday and Thursday, 565 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week until next time.