Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Kaddy Armstrong and Jetty.
Speaker 2: And live from the studio Season your.
Speaker 3: It is a dimly lit room deal with in the
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Speaker 3: Little Friday under the futelage of general manager rapid change.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, dizzying? Good lord? What's next?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: That might be your funniest ever general manager rapid change.
Speaker 5: Would you like to explain? Well?
Speaker 1: Sure, what what? What's to explain? Or you blind man?
Speaker 1: Everywhere you look domestically, internationally, it's just everything's in like
Speaker 1: wild flux. Name anything that's stable, even though the Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball they're talking about idiotic rule changes that that's
Speaker 1: how too much fashion?
Speaker 5: These wide pants these children wear today. I just tell you,
Speaker 5: I understand it.
Speaker 1: The high rise genes. Oh you know what, this government
Speaker 1: should have stepped in there. Just again, too much change.
Speaker 5: They're not flattering, That's what I don't get. I'm amazing people,
Speaker 5: particularly young women, don't want to display what they look like.
Speaker 5: Just kind of surprising to me that they want to
Speaker 5: be don'tna were something that makes it impossible to know
Speaker 5: what they look like.
Speaker 1: So I don't I'm just I don't know. It really
Speaker 1: looks like something designed in a Marxist system to de
Speaker 1: sexualize everybody, or something. Since trust me, my word on
Speaker 1: what looks good on women can be trusted, like the
Speaker 1: very tablets that came down from God Almighty in the
Speaker 1: hands of Moses, I would not lie.
Speaker 5: Well right about that. That's kind of weird that that
Speaker 5: fits a bit of a cultural moment, you know, the
Speaker 5: last month with Trump, a side of the you know,
Speaker 5: no genders and all the sort of stuff in that
Speaker 5: young women up until like a year ago, we're wearing
Speaker 5: jeans that were all about making it very clear what
Speaker 5: you look like.
Speaker 1: All right, if only we had a woman to consult.
Speaker 1: Katie Green joins us, Katie.
Speaker 6: Not only are they awful, but I'll tell you I've
Speaker 6: worned the high rise genes before.
Speaker 1: Try sitting down in those babies.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there's that, but I don't even mean the
Speaker 5: high rise, just.
Speaker 1: The wide pants.
Speaker 5: They're very very low.
Speaker 1: The bottoms.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're you could be you could be between
Speaker 5: eighty five pounds and one hundred and eighty five pounds,
Speaker 5: and you would look exactly the same in all the
Speaker 5: genes that college girls were today.
Speaker 1: It's all about the mystery. It's all about the mystery.
Speaker 5: Jack Well, it wasn't for the past fifteen years.
Speaker 1: So I just well, the mystery is never solved because
Speaker 1: they never take off their genes, because everybody's asexual.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's it. Maybe it's the I don't want a date.
Speaker 5: I don't want anybody to talk to me. I'd rather
Speaker 5: meet a bear in the woods than a strange man.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna let the big formless scheme right exactly.
Speaker 1: And they are actual Marxists in many cases, So I
Speaker 1: think I think I had the answer there long before
Speaker 1: most of the discussion. But anyway, I haven't even.
Speaker 5: Thought about that. You got to write a long essay
Speaker 5: for The Atlantic on Marxist clothing and the use of today.
Speaker 1: I'll get chance Ept to do it for me. I'll
Speaker 1: put my name to it. That's a good idea.
Speaker 5: So has anybody an excoriated op ed I just read
Speaker 5: from the Wall Street Journal today, second day in a
Speaker 5: row on Trump's plan and the things he's saying about
Speaker 5: Zelensky and Ukraine. Has anybody figured out exactly what the
Speaker 5: what the what the goal is here, what we're doing,
Speaker 5: what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I'm figuring out more and more. Honestly, I did a
Speaker 1: bit of a deep dive into the argument in favor
Speaker 1: of his position, and it is, as usual with Trump,
Speaker 1: a combination of some good points and an explanation of
Speaker 1: them that's so horrific. Nobody who doesn't know precisely what
Speaker 1: he's talking about has any idea what he's talking about.
Speaker 5: Well, is it three dimensional chess?
Speaker 1: Is that what's happening here? All chests is three dimensional? No,
Speaker 1: not exactly, not exactly. It's it's a it's a policy
Speaker 1: of as we discussed yesterday. Some of you could call
Speaker 1: it reprochemont with with Russia or just not driving Russia
Speaker 1: into the arms of the axes of a holes. That's
Speaker 1: part of it. And the other part of it is
Speaker 1: that there were some fairly little uh talked about, written about,
Speaker 1: not totally not totally ignored, but mostly ignored negotiations a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago to end the conflict. And the
Speaker 1: story is the Ukrainians kind of liked the deal, and
Speaker 1: the US told them, no, don't take this deal with Russia.
Speaker 1: And that seems to be what Trump is referring to Okay,
Speaker 1: and it's difficult. I mean you could, you could absolutely
Speaker 1: teach a year long college class on all of this,
Speaker 1: because I mean, among some of the other claims is
Speaker 1: that the US stage decoup that overthrew the freely elected
Speaker 1: government of Ukraine back in twenty four, which I find
Speaker 1: to be fairly ridiculous description of the Kremlin's puppet regime
Speaker 1: being tossed aside, Yes, with the help of the West,
Speaker 1: because the Ukrainian people really wanted to lean more towards
Speaker 1: Europe and democracy and justice in the free market and
Speaker 1: the rest of it, as opposed to Putin's kleptocracy in
Speaker 1: that former Soviet republic. And and they then actually held
Speaker 1: elections in which Vladimir Lensky was elected, for better or worse.
Speaker 1: So it's there are there are multiple layers, there are
Speaker 1: multiple stories to each layer, multiple points of view, and
Speaker 1: and again, uh, Trump needs to put JD. Vans out
Speaker 1: front to explain this.
Speaker 4: We all have to talk about that more or later
Speaker 4: with the full because it's it's it's it's roiling the world.
Speaker 1: It absolutely is. And as I was trying to babble out,
Speaker 1: it is such a mix of fact opinion, propaganda, historical
Speaker 1: guess work. It's difficult to pin down.
Speaker 4: Well, I for the first time I heard somebody hint
Speaker 4: at so I mentioned the other day Mark Halpern wrote,
Speaker 4: and I haven't seen this anywhere else. So one of
Speaker 4: the reasons I like Mark Alpern's writing is he's got
Speaker 4: tremendous sources and stuff that. But i'd never heard this
Speaker 4: anywhere else. I read it on the air the other day.
Speaker 4: He said, you can't go anywhere in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: With talk of this grand bargain that includes Greenland, Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, China, US,
Speaker 4: all of it coming together. Everybody's talking about this thing.
Speaker 4: And I heard David Ignatius the first time on the
Speaker 4: Washington Post this morning saying there is talk of a
Speaker 4: grand bargain that would include China. And so that's the
Speaker 4: first time I've heard anybody even hint at it. But
Speaker 4: according to Halpurn, that's what everybody's talking about behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: So that must play a role this somehow.
Speaker 4: I don't know why it has to be so secret
Speaker 4: that nobody that Trump's taken so much fire from so
Speaker 4: many different directions, including a fair number of people in
Speaker 4: his own party.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, virtually everybody. I I came across this, and
Speaker 1: we've got a listener who either spent like seventy hours
Speaker 1: compiling information or is crazy into this or has a
Speaker 1: role in this, but anyway, sending a bunch of links
Speaker 1: to articles through the years and Twitter threads and such,
Speaker 1: including one from j d Vance who spells out in
Speaker 1: ten steps or so, why the current Ukraine policy is
Speaker 1: so bad?
Speaker 4: Well, the current happy to the current Ukraine policy of
Speaker 4: just give them barely enough to survive.
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, he would characterize it more as a
Speaker 1: ten to spread democracy and freedom, et cetera, and oppose
Speaker 1: Putin and bleed him dry in a proxy war. That's
Speaker 1: our current policy. That's the way they describe it. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to communicate to you. There's
Speaker 1: virtually no aspect of this that doesn't have like three
Speaker 1: different strong opinions about how to describe it or what
Speaker 1: facts are salient. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure standing up for an already existing democracy
Speaker 4: is the same as spreading democracy, like when we went
Speaker 4: into a rack in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: Oh, I would agree, And in fact, Noah Rothman of
Speaker 1: National Review responded to jd Vance's ten point post for
Speaker 1: the life of me, I can't see how Russia is worn.
Speaker 1: Ukraine bears even a passing resemblance to a rock save
Speaker 1: for the subtextual argument. Ukraine's critics seem to have internalized
Speaker 1: that America is the bad guy. But you know, I'd
Speaker 1: be happy to share Jadvance's ten point post next segment
Speaker 1: or what we should do that later. Absolutely at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the hour.
Speaker 4: It's one of the biggest stories in the world, no
Speaker 4: doubt about it, and depending on how it turns out,
Speaker 4: it could be a really big story. We should start
Speaker 4: to show officially before we run out of toime. I'm
Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this How did it
Speaker 4: already get to be?
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Speaker 4: Thursday February twentieth, the year twenty twenty five, where I'm
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Speaker 7: If we're doing solve the deficit, there won't be money
Speaker 7: for medical care, they won't be a money.
Speaker 1: For social security. We either solve the deficit. All we'll
Speaker 1: be doing is paying debt. It's got to be solved.
Speaker 7: It's not optional, and MIC will go bankrupt if this
Speaker 7: is not done.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here.
Speaker 4: I want to replace the national anthem, non Pledge of
Speaker 4: allegiance in all our schools all across the country where
Speaker 4: they still do that with that, I want to take
Speaker 4: out the pledge of allegiance and put that in. I
Speaker 4: think it might be important, important right now that every
Speaker 4: school child here first thing in the morning. We're going broke.
Speaker 4: We're going to go broke. We're not going to have
Speaker 4: anything if we don't change direction. It's just math, maybe
Speaker 4: fleshed out a little bit. There will be no money
Speaker 4: for national defense. There will be no money for sick people.
Speaker 4: There will be no money for disaster relief. After the
Speaker 4: hurricanes hit, there will be no money for anything. Will
Speaker 4: be broke. We'll be starving or homeless people in trans
Speaker 4: bathrooms if that's your where you like money to go,
Speaker 4: but wherever whatever you had.
Speaker 1: Two different things, or do you have homeless people in
Speaker 1: trans bathrooms?
Speaker 4: Matter what your are too much for, there won't be
Speaker 4: any money. Well, there ain't no money. There ain't no money.
Speaker 4: I don't if you've ever been broke, but there ain't
Speaker 4: no money. There ain't no money.
Speaker 1: Give generously to the fun to get trans people into
Speaker 1: junkie bathrooms.
Speaker 4: So we have mail bag and headlines this hour more
Speaker 4: news of the day. Lots of stuff going on. I
Speaker 4: hope you can see around. Just came across another headline
Speaker 4: I should have sent you, Katie. We'll get this on later.
Speaker 4: I need to do some breeding exercises before we do
Speaker 4: the headlines.
Speaker 1: I know Joe, Joe hasn't seen this yet.
Speaker 4: I sent Katie what might be the most depressing headline
Speaker 4: as a California taxpayer that I've ever seen my wife,
Speaker 4: So I need to, yeah, calm down a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 4: before it's all going to be our before she does
Speaker 4: the headlines.
Speaker 1: Here we go. It's probably not going to be all right.
Speaker 1: But anyway, you're breathing exercises that I don't wanted to
Speaker 1: pass out. Joe work with me here. Yes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Let's figure out who's reporting what we've rejiggered the schedule.
Speaker 1: Now is the time, friends, Now for the lead story
Speaker 1: with Katie Green. Katie, all right, Jack hold on, Katie La.
Speaker 6: Majority of Californians still support high speed rail project, polling.
Speaker 4: Shows a new Emerson poll came out yesterday. Fifty four
Speaker 4: percent of Californians still think the bullet train, using my
Speaker 4: finger quotes, is still a good expenditure of state funds.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I got to
Speaker 1: take this call. Yeah, yep, Joe here, yep, hmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell them. Okay, that was James Madison. The experiment
Speaker 1: of self government has failed. It's now over. It's been ended.
Speaker 1: So anyway, good to hear from the father of the Constitution.
Speaker 4: And even if you don't live in California, you should
Speaker 4: be depressed how people don't pay attention, or people are morons,
Speaker 4: or I don't, I don't, I'm I'm having trouble absorbing
Speaker 4: this information.
Speaker 1: My brief thesis would be, if you make the government
Speaker 1: big and complicated enough that people can't comprehend it, you
Speaker 1: have the cover to do whatever you want in terms
Speaker 1: of milking the treasury for yourself and your cronies.
Speaker 4: Let me read one thing from the poll and then
Speaker 4: I'll let you get back to the other headlines. Just
Speaker 4: the wording of this really bothered me. Despite uncertainty over
Speaker 4: its budget and timeline, oh no, there's there's absolute certain
Speaker 4: The majority of Californians still say the California High School
Speaker 4: project is worthy of state county despite uncertainty. You mean
Speaker 4: the fact that we're supposed to have it years ago,
Speaker 4: and it's and they haven't laid any track yet, and
Speaker 4: it's never gonna happen, and it's cost five times as much,
Speaker 4: and it's the biggest boondoggle and maybe the history of
Speaker 4: tax payer money anywhere in the world, anywhere in history.
Speaker 4: Despite that, you mean, you're still in favor of it.
Speaker 1: The cost balloons over and over and over again. The
Speaker 1: uncertainty is how far it will balloon. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I would just call that uncertain few morons. There will
Speaker 1: never be a bullet train. They're not even claiming it's
Speaker 1: a bullet train anymore. It's a regular speed train. Jack.
Speaker 1: You just need to go out in the streets, ask
Speaker 1: people their opinion. If they say, yeah, I'm still in
Speaker 1: favor of it, beat them with your fists. That's the
Speaker 1: only way to get over this, Katie, back to you,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. CNN fact check.
Speaker 6: Trump claims de Lenski has a four percent approval rating
Speaker 6: when it's above fifty percent.
Speaker 4: The only part I don't get of the if there's
Speaker 4: a strategy here. Maybe it's a strategy that I could
Speaker 4: even kind of understand. And then you throw in Trump's
Speaker 4: personality on top of it, because there's no reason you
Speaker 4: have to belittle Zolensky to pull off the strategy is there?
Speaker 1: You know he's doing that because he's but hurt that
Speaker 1: Zelensky argued with him.
Speaker 4: You don't have to call him a you know, a
Speaker 4: cut rate comedian with a four percent approval?
Speaker 1: How does that help anything? Now, as I've said, many times,
Speaker 1: what is wrong with Trump will be the undoing of
Speaker 1: what's right with Trump. It's like watching a slow motion
Speaker 1: train wreck. Meanwhile, I just hope more and more of
Speaker 1: the good stuff happens, because there's a lot of great
Speaker 1: stuff happening.
Speaker 4: High speed train wreck or regular speed train wreck. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: slow motion train wreck from the Telegraph.
Speaker 6: Hamas parades coffins of child hostages in disgusting spectacle.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I got so mad at NPR today,
Speaker 4: and that happens almost What was the Ulways say about
Speaker 4: listening to NPR.
Speaker 1: I listened to it to punish myself for the bad
Speaker 1: things I've done.
Speaker 4: So Hamas released the bodies of people they had murdered,
Speaker 4: including a mom and two babies. Hamas ordered a couple
Speaker 4: of babies. They release the bodies, they parade them around,
Speaker 4: they do their usual big flags of a Hamas support
Speaker 4: and everything like that, belittling everybody and everything. NPR called
Speaker 4: it Hamas with once more a show of strength as
Speaker 4: they release bodies to the Israelis a show of strength.
Speaker 1: PR right now, Yeah, ah, It's been claimed by some
Speaker 1: sympathetic to the Hamas cause that well, they were killed
Speaker 1: in Israeli air strikes. Most likely well, by every standard
Speaker 1: of law that exists on the planet, the abductor is
Speaker 1: responsible for that outcome. Please quick true.
Speaker 4: It's still Hamas's fault and no reason to believe that's true.
Speaker 6: From Reuters, Trump says he's considering returning twenty percent of
Speaker 6: DOGE savings to Americans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to dig into this. It's the perpetual
Speaker 1: motion machine of people's approval for the program.
Speaker 6: From the New York Post, Chipotle will use AI to
Speaker 6: hire twenty thousand workers for burrito season.
Speaker 1: Awesome. And from the Babylon Bee, cruel elon.
Speaker 6: Musk cuts off social security benefits for thousands of revolutionary
Speaker 6: war veterans.
Speaker 1: Beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got more dough stuff and lots of headlines
Speaker 4: and mail bag on the way all this hour, So stay.
Speaker 1: Tuned, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4: As we mentioned earlier in the week, with some pulling
Speaker 4: Trump's most popular he's ever been in his political career,
Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see if there's any political price
Speaker 4: to pay for this newt angle he's taking on wrapping
Speaker 4: up Ukraine. So he called said Ukraine started the war
Speaker 4: and Zalnsi's a dictator and all that such stuff.
Speaker 1: Forty eight hours ago.
Speaker 4: And we speculated yesterday that he might walk that back,
Speaker 4: that maybe he was shooting out his mouth. Apparently not.
Speaker 4: He was in Miami last night and these are some
Speaker 4: of the comments he made.
Speaker 7: A dictator without elections. Zelensky, better move, He's not going
Speaker 7: to have a country left. Got to move, got to
Speaker 7: move fast, because that war's going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 7: In the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an into the war
Speaker 7: with Russia.
Speaker 1: Something all admit that only Trump is going.
Speaker 7: To be able to do. In the Trump administration, we're
Speaker 7: going to be able to do it.
Speaker 1: I think Putin even admitted that Biden never tried.
Speaker 7: Europe has failed to bring peace and Zolensky probably wants to.
Speaker 7: Maybe he wants to keep the gravy train going. I
Speaker 7: don't know what's the problem, but he hasn't been able.
Speaker 7: He's very upset that he wasn't invited. He could have
Speaker 7: come if he wanted to, but that he wasn't invited
Speaker 7: to Saudi Arabia. But he's been working for three years,
Speaker 7: he's never been even meeting. So phone calls to stop
Speaker 7: this war. It's a horrible thing.
Speaker 1: I see. That's nonsensical to my ears. So on the
Speaker 1: one hand, we're being ordered to believe that Zelensky hasn't
Speaker 1: participated in any conversations. Meanwhile, I've got folks all sorts
Speaker 1: of information that indicates that the US pressured Zelensky not
Speaker 1: to come to an agreement that he wanted to in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: I'd never heard that before, so I don't I got
Speaker 4: nothing on that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, on the Turkey talks is stun bull talks. Well.
Speaker 4: Also, the whole using the term dictator is a pejorative,
Speaker 4: which it should be a pejorative against Zelensky, but not
Speaker 4: Putin News.
Speaker 1: Not critical of Putin, uh Putin. Volinski is barred from
Speaker 1: having elections during wartime according to the Ukrainian constitutions.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, I I just don't understand the strategy.
Speaker 4: And like I said earlier, if if Trump wants to
Speaker 4: come out and those of you who agree with him
Speaker 4: want to come out and say it's a regional dispute,
Speaker 4: it's Europe, it's we don't live there, it's not. At
Speaker 4: least that's an intellectual argument, and I don't agree with it.
Speaker 4: I think we have national interest in how it turns out.
Speaker 4: But it's an argument to say we have no business
Speaker 4: in that, to say, to say you've grain started and
Speaker 4: Zelensky's a dictator and all that, I don't know what
Speaker 4: the hell that is.
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm just utterly flabbergasted.
Speaker 4: And then he's in it for the money. He's he's
Speaker 4: he's in it for It's amazing he hasn't died yet,
Speaker 4: him and his family, So many of his friends and
Speaker 4: countrymen have died horrible deaths or been raped or beaten
Speaker 4: or whatever. He's in it for the money.
Speaker 1: What well, in ninety percent of the money never leaves
Speaker 1: the United States. It's it just goes to armaments. I mean.
Speaker 1: And again, if you want to make the it's the
Speaker 1: military industrial complex continuing this because they're making so much money. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's fine. Again, that's an argument, but that's happening
Speaker 1: simultaneously with u. Zelensky is keeping the money and he's
Speaker 1: on a gravy train. So which one is it? Those are?
Speaker 1: They're diametrically opposed your two arguments. There's there's so much,
Speaker 1: you know, fog going on here. Got this note from
Speaker 1: and with many many links and opinions, some more factual,
Speaker 1: some a little wishy washy. And it's interesting the links
Speaker 1: to Twitter accounts, including this one dude who's quoted a
Speaker 1: great deal and he has like something like three hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy thousand followers on Twitter for what it is worth.
Speaker 1: But I took several minutes to scroll through his Twitter
Speaker 1: feed for a very long time. Or you know, many many,
Speaker 1: many different entries and posts and quotes and links and
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And it's uniformly anti Us, anti Israel.
Speaker 1: You know, once in a while, somebody mad at US says,
Speaker 1: you guys act like Israel can do no wrong, which
Speaker 1: is not true. I don't act like that, speaking for myself,
Speaker 1: and they do wrong all the time. It happens in war,
Speaker 1: and we've acknowledged it. But this point of view is
Speaker 1: the America can do no right. Man can do no
Speaker 1: it's the woke right.
Speaker 4: I'm amazed you were able to get past that. I
Speaker 4: can't handle that. That past what point of view? You
Speaker 4: act like America does no wrong. Well, I'm done talking
Speaker 4: to you if you say that to me.
Speaker 1: Oh, I said Israel, but yeah, yeah, it's just a
Speaker 1: false argument. But no, I was saying that to draw
Speaker 1: the contrast with a lot of the quotes from the
Speaker 1: people here there the America can never do any right.
Speaker 1: Israel never is right. Crowd, they're the anti American woke right.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting some of the stuff about the negotiations
Speaker 1: in twenty two, the piece talks in istanbull I think
Speaker 1: it was are kind of interesting. But again, you know,
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of the blind fellows describing the
Speaker 1: elephant going on here. One man's advice is another man's
Speaker 1: pressure is another man's dictate, if you will, when you're
Speaker 1: talking about what happened at a complex set of negotiations. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I promised this from Jdvans. This is a Twitter post
Speaker 1: from twenty from September of twenty twenty three. So what's
Speaker 1: that year and a half ago, And this is when
Speaker 1: he was a senator, The same idiots who pushed the
Speaker 1: most aggressive posture in Ukraine. You and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: who he's dressing exactly, maybe Noah Rothman, but did the
Speaker 1: same in a Raq also you and just let Noah
Speaker 1: respond to that. He says, I cannot, for the life
Speaker 1: of me say how Russias warre in Ukraine bears even
Speaker 1: a passing resemblance to a rock Save for the subtextual argument,
Speaker 1: Ukraine's critics seem to have internalized that America is the
Speaker 1: bad guy anyway. Ah, Is he making some sort of
Speaker 1: neo Khan we need to be everywhere all the time argument? Okay,
Speaker 1: I wish you'd fleshed it out. But number two, the
Speaker 1: bizarre and reflective World War two analogies. If we don't
Speaker 1: stop him here never Neville Chamberlain also said JD and
Speaker 1: I love JD. Vance in a lot of ways. But
Speaker 1: you could say those are reflexive World War two analogies,
Speaker 1: but they're not bizarre. In what way are those bizarre analogies? Three? Yeah,
Speaker 1: seem pretty damn spot on. Uh, yeah, and I'm surprised
Speaker 1: at how rag taggy his arguments are the defense of
Speaker 1: the policy in terms of generic institutional deference and international
Speaker 1: norms rather than concrete American interest. Now, Jade Vans is
Speaker 1: an exceptionally break guy, and I don't get how he
Speaker 1: glosses over how international are norms are a concrete American interest.
Speaker 4: Absolute freaking lutely the woman, I'm just say as it
Speaker 4: is has benefited us so much for the past seventy
Speaker 4: five years, eighty years.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, regular working Americans standard of living
Speaker 1: is quintuppled in the postwar period, maybe more because of
Speaker 1: those international norms. Again, I'm just he's a very bright guy,
Speaker 1: So I'm a little mystified by this. Moving along, the
Speaker 1: belief that tough talk in su depletion of resources is
Speaker 1: an effective deterrent rather than say, not wasting thousands of
Speaker 1: lives billions of dollars in much of our modern weapons
Speaker 1: of war, that's just nod construction. It's as if he's
Speaker 1: giving us two choices for deterrence. But it's it was
Speaker 1: like he was drunk when he wrote this. Now, if
Speaker 1: you want to make two separate arguments there that this
Speaker 1: effective deterrence or what ought to be deterrence is a
Speaker 1: suicidal depletion of resources. Now that I will listen to,
Speaker 1: because it's scary how we have depleted our own weaponry
Speaker 1: to support Ukraine. But it's just again, it's a weird construction.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: And this one's weird too. The mission creep. From eliminating
Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction to building a liberal democracy in Iraq,
Speaker 1: that was mission creep. But then he says, from stopping
Speaker 1: the Russian advance to reclaiming every inch of territory to
Speaker 1: toppling Putin in Eastern Europe who was pushing for that?
Speaker 1: And dropping the Russian advance and reclaiming every inch of
Speaker 1: territory is the same mission they invaded, Your appel them.
Speaker 1: That's not mission creep. I don't. I am just flabbergasted
Speaker 1: by this. The moralistic defense of our policies freedom, democracy,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that our client states are neither free
Speaker 1: nor democratic. I assume he's talking about Ukraine. There they're
Speaker 1: wanting to pivot to the West instead of Putin's totalitarian
Speaker 1: kryptocracy of Russia is not a good thing. I don't
Speaker 1: understand that is this legitimate. It appears to be the
Speaker 1: fact the failure of our policies, I'm sorry, the failure
Speaker 1: of our leads to acknowledge that our policies are enabling
Speaker 1: the persecution of historic Christian communities. Yeah, okay, that that
Speaker 1: whole thing.
Speaker 4: Putin somehow the savior of Christianity.
Speaker 1: That one I don't get. You all are on your
Speaker 1: own on that one. I don't get satanic. The fact
Speaker 1: that our policies unite our adversaries together Iraq and Iran,
Speaker 1: then Russia and China. Now, yeah, that's a legit argument.
Speaker 1: We can make that argument. There's a better way to
Speaker 1: approach it that doesn't drive Russia into China's arms. I mean,
Speaker 1: I might agree with you or disagree with you, but
Speaker 1: that's the valid point. Let's see nine. Both letter will
Speaker 1: lead to massive refuge crises that destabilize European allies and
Speaker 1: threaten arms our security. I'm sure you and others will
Speaker 1: try to distance yourselves from the consequences of driving up
Speaker 1: food prices and migration pressures for the entire continent of Africa.
Speaker 1: And ten both empower China. Zero point nine is so
Speaker 1: he's saying, just let Putin take Ukraine and that will
Speaker 1: stabilize food exportation exports from Ukraine.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you're counting on the fact that
Speaker 4: Putin's gonna would stop if he had not gotten any pushback.
Speaker 4: I mean to the previous point that we're pushing Putin
Speaker 4: and China together by fighting him there. So if we
Speaker 4: hadn't fought Putin, it wouldn't have been a signal for
Speaker 4: Russia and China that you can take territory. Now it's
Speaker 4: open season again, It's the nineteenth century again. I don't
Speaker 4: understand how that is the case.
Speaker 1: Well, and again I must say, for how much I
Speaker 1: love and I mean and not like I'm in favor of,
Speaker 1: I want to hold a parade for what Trump's doing
Speaker 1: to the DEI menace and an energy policy. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: listen to talk Doug Bergham talk about energy policy and
Speaker 1: the Secretary of Energy his name, I don't recall. Just
Speaker 1: fantastic stuff. It's great, but trying to explain what the
Speaker 1: hell he's doing re Ukraine is utterly incoherent. I mean,
Speaker 1: as I said before, the problem with Trump sometimes and
Speaker 1: this has made me insane when he was talking about
Speaker 1: doing the things he's doing now that I like is
Speaker 1: unless you know exactly what he's talking about. You have
Speaker 1: no idea what he's talking about anyway, why.
Speaker 4: Wanting to hit a little bit of the Wall Street
Speaker 4: Journal editorial their view of things, which is kind of
Speaker 4: the opposite of what Jade Vance just said right after this.
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know where most of our audience, our
Speaker 4: entire radio or podcast audience is on this whole topic
Speaker 4: of the way Ukraine is being handled by Trump. I
Speaker 4: really don't know where y'all are. I know where I am.
Speaker 4: I know where the Wall Street Journal is in the
Speaker 4: New York posts, which are closer to where Joe and
Speaker 4: I are. But maybe i'll read from that next hour.
Speaker 4: We've got to get the mail bag coming up a
Speaker 4: little bit. I would like to hear from you. I
Speaker 4: have a feeling the most worked up, loudest voices are
Speaker 4: the only people that text her email, which is always
Speaker 4: the case. But here is the text line four one
Speaker 4: five two nine five K ftc Armstrong. HEYETI, everything not
Speaker 4: natural is getting less colorful?
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 4: I was kind of aware of it, really aware of it.
Speaker 4: Now that is brought to my attention. We'll talk to
Speaker 4: that and come about that in coming hours.
Speaker 1: Really interesting. Can you just repeat that?
Speaker 4: You know, nature has not changed sunrise's plants, that sort
Speaker 4: of thing, But everything else we're less interested in colors.
Speaker 4: We like black, whites and grays. And there's a gazillion
Speaker 4: examples of this, including movies, TVs, fashion, cars, everything, And
Speaker 4: it's been a steady move since, like the early nineteen
Speaker 4: hundreds to get.
Speaker 1: Less colorful for some reason. How interesting, I know. I
Speaker 1: look forward to that discussion. Here's your freedom loving quote
Speaker 1: of the day. Continuing on with Abe Lincoln, we'll go
Speaker 1: with Washington to next week. This is one of my
Speaker 1: all time faves. The shepherd drives the wolf from the
Speaker 1: sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as
Speaker 1: his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same
Speaker 1: act as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and
Speaker 1: the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of Uh.
Speaker 1: That's a good one, and I think it's apropos to
Speaker 1: our previous discussion about the situation with Ukraine and Russia
Speaker 1: and Europe and the rest of it. There are people
Speaker 1: who seem to have very very different definitions of democracy, liberty,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Human beings. What are you gonna do with them? Mailback, jobs, note,
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Speaker 1: a lot to get to. Let's hit this German censorship.
Speaker 1: We were talking about Powlo rights on speech restrictions in Germany.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the German people like politeness and suggested that
Speaker 1: it could be maintained by cultural forces. It's certainly in
Speaker 1: the United States. Yeah, I don't want the governments forcing
Speaker 1: people to be quote unquote polite because or Well will
Speaker 1: tell us where that goes. Anyway, he says, I agree,
Speaker 1: and I go further. The cultural forces that supported that
Speaker 1: politeness in the past have been diluted and altered by
Speaker 1: the rapid, unmanaged flux of people with very different cultural values.
Speaker 1: Restricting speech is a desperate attempt to maintain their traditional culture.
Speaker 1: That's diversity for you, Pallo, You are one hundred percent correct,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Now, maybe diversity is unavoidable in a
Speaker 1: nation of immigrants. Blah, blah blah blah blah. Our greatest
Speaker 1: strength is and has always been unity, unity around certain principles,
Speaker 1: not diversity. Diversity is a challenge to that unity, not
Speaker 1: that it's necessarily bad, but that moronic Marxist idea that
Speaker 1: diversity is our greatest strength. And if anybody ever insists
Speaker 1: anybody adapt to the United States or adopt our principles
Speaker 1: or you know, assimilate, they're a racist. Good lord, we
Speaker 1: let those lunatics drag us so far off line. I
Speaker 1: hope there's coming back anyway. Moving along side show, Bob writes,
Speaker 1: I sure hope Taiwan gets the message from Trump and
Speaker 1: doesn't go out and start a war with China. Now, ah, boy,
Speaker 1: that's a little sarcasm right there. I had picked up
Speaker 1: on it right off, Thank you boy. A bunch of
Speaker 1: different reactions to the Trump's Zelensky thing, as you might imagine.
Speaker 1: Bravo on calling Trump's bs re Ukraine for what it is,
Speaker 1: a steaming pile from Matt the Idaho farmhand, who's a
Speaker 1: very very bright and well read guy.
Speaker 4: Not that not this would not that this would indicate
Speaker 4: anything about our audience, but was there was there a
Speaker 4: majority either way on the mail you got.
Speaker 1: I didn't make a throw enough look at it to
Speaker 1: render an opinion. Ah let's see. Oh I thought this
Speaker 1: was so interesting. We got so many Maybe we'll get
Speaker 1: to him later. But uh, Jafk writes, Uh, I'm a
Speaker 1: longtime listener, originally from cal Unicornia, but now in this
Speaker 1: dumpster passing is the state of New York. I know
Speaker 1: you're primarily talking about world events, blah blah blah. I
Speaker 1: wonder to bring your attention to the fire that's happening
Speaker 1: in this dumpster state. As of right now, all but
Speaker 1: two of the state prisons here in New York are
Speaker 1: on These men and women of risk life, women and
Speaker 1: family for their jobs, are fed up and finally standing up.
Speaker 1: They're out there on the line in freezing temperatures, advocating
Speaker 1: for their own safety, all the while being called rogue
Speaker 1: officers who are illegally protesting the lack of safety within
Speaker 1: the walls of their facilities and are threatened with fines,
Speaker 1: jail time, loss of jobs from the state. I wish
Speaker 1: I had time to read all of this right now.
Speaker 1: The brief summary is the woke policies about crime and
Speaker 1: criminals and inmates, combined with well, lack's enforcement of rules
Speaker 1: and all that has caused an explosion in violence and
Speaker 1: a complete loss of order within the prison system. And
Speaker 1: it's become incredibly dangerous because of the progressive policies. And
Speaker 1: that's why these CEOs, the corrections officers are striking. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get into this in more detail later on The
Speaker 1: greatest way, the hundred percent effective way to discredit progressive
Speaker 1: policies is to enact them. The problem is a lot
Speaker 1: of people get hurt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got some examples of that. Wall Street Journal
Speaker 4: pretty rough on Trump's handling of Ukraine today. But you know,
Speaker 4: for some of you, if you feel like that's part
Speaker 4: of the whole financial, military industrial complex, I suppose a
Speaker 4: lot more on the way.
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