1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Little Kop three and 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Out podcast can't wait to talk some football. You know, 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: it's slow time, but don't worry. That's what I do, 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: create content even when there's not much going on. And 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: I actually think pretty excited for the show today. Have 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: some thoughts and recording this. The NBA Draft is a night. Uh. 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: And there was an article that came out by this 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: guy on ESPN about how the NBA draft. You know, 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's hurting the sport, you know, 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: because all these NBA players are unhappy and basically should 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: they abolish the draft. I have some takes on that 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: because I do think it it intertwines with the NFL. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: Rogers had some interesting quotes about Matt Lafleur and the 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: offense got to dive into that because I typically judge 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: people by by actions, not words. Your words were hollow 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: to me unless you're like my wife or my kid 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: or something. But when I when I judge you, I 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: strictly judge you by actions. But I think there's something 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: to the words that are coming out of Green Bay. Uh. 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Then the Michael Thomas is about to get paid It 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: looked like it was gonna happen a couple of days ago. 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: The start receiver for the Saints hasn't happened yet. Now 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: it looks like they're kind of far apart, and I've 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: seen a lot of people say it impacts Amari Cooper. 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: I did. I kind of dove into the numbers. I 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: don't really see how that is the case. And then 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: I was thinking about doing something this offseason, maybe every 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: show picking a division and going over the over underwins uh. 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: And today let's start. We'll start on the East Coast 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: and work west. I start with the a f C East. 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Next show will do the NFC East, and we'll just 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: kind of work like that, you know, help us get 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: through the summer a little bit. And then of course 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mail bag. I answer your questions on the show. 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: We we we interact on this show through social media 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle. You slide up 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: in those d m s and I answer your questions 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: pretty simple. All my Instagram Twitter handles are all the 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: same as just my name. Say all the times it's 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: easier to get a hold of me through Twitter or 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Instagram that it is by calling, because unless I have 42 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: your number in my phone. I will not pick up 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: if you call. It's not the way it works. But 44 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: let's start with this. There was an article on ESPN 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: about the NBA Draft and Kevin Arnovitz, uh, super smart guy. Basically, 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: the NBA has a happiness problem and all their players 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: are unhappy despite making historic amount of money. I mean 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: most NBA players, especially the highly paid ones. And Harrison 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: Barnes Is turned out twenty five million dollars. Now he's 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: gonna get a longer term deal, but he turned down 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars. Al Horford was thirty three years old, 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: turned down thirty. So these guys, they're they're living in 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: a different stratosphere, except for like NFL quarterbacks. Well, there's 54 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: an unhappy problem in the NBA, which in the NFL, 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: there's an unhappy problem only for the guys who don't 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: get paid. Once they get paid, people are happy. But 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Arnovits rose to this article that basically said that 58 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: maybe part of their unhappy problem is a lot of 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: people aren't playing for teams that they did not want 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: to play for, and the big reason why is because 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: of the draft, they don't get to choose where they go. 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Like me or you. When I graduated from cal Poly 63 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: uh and I didn't want to Let's say I got 64 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: a business degree. If I wanted to work in finance, 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: I could try to get a job with Chase, with 66 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo, with Bank of America, and I could essentially 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: pick where I wanted to go. In theory, now you 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: know they probably wouldn't want to hire me, But I 69 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: would imagine many people listening to this. Coming out of college, 70 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: you might have had a couple options, and you're like, well, 71 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: I can move to San Diego and work for this, 72 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: or I can work for the Bay and work for this. 73 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: Or let's say you worked you went to Penn State, 74 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Like I can go to New York and do this, 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: or I can move to Philadelphia and do this. Where 76 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: in the NBA and the NFL, For this argument, I 77 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: don't really count baseball because no one knows the draft 78 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: there that their their draft doesn't matter to their sport 79 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: in terms of fan interest. Now, big picture, obviously it 80 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: impacts it, but I'm just talking in the NBA and 81 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: in the NFL, when you draft a guy, that guy 82 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: is playing in the pros immediately. So it's a huge 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: part of the business model, and it's also a big 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: reason why where all the cash comes from. I think 85 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: too often the media loses touch with this, and I 86 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: think the media is the worst at this, almost as 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: bad as the players. Is that I hope everyone understands 88 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: that every feak freaking penny of everything we do, whether 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: you're a coach, whether you're a player, all that money, 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: whether you're doing what I do, comes from sports fans 91 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: and their value in two thousand nineteen with media rights 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: has never been more valuable. Just sitting on the couch 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: their time and then just watching your sport has never 94 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: meant more to the bottom line. And right now, Basketball 95 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: and definitely the NFL depend on these media rights deals 96 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: of selling their television product, and obviously that's changing as 97 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Facebook and Netflix are surely to come. But the reason 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: those people pay so much money, literally every penny that 99 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: goes to a player were held to meet in the media. 100 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: It all comes from people listening and watching. Without those people, 101 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: there is no business model. And for definitely in my 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: business and one hundred percent of the league's business, the 103 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: draft is a big part of fan interest because it sells, hope, 104 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: it sells, it's just kind of cool. You're getting a 105 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: new player. So the big reason these players like Kyrie Irving, 106 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, all these guys can make thirty forty million 107 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: again is because of the massive amount of people that 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: watch and consume the sport. They drive. Literally every penny 109 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: into the pie. Every single penny comes from a comes 110 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: from fans. Because if those fans did not watch, did 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: not consume the sport, the media companies wouldn't pay top 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: dollar if no one was watching obviously, right if people 113 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: were not attending your games. I down the road, Chase 114 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: paid Joe Lake Up and the Warriors enormous amount of 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: moneys to be the to have the naming rights Levi 116 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: Stadium not far down the road. Keep for me pay 117 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Jed York huge cash. I remember Jerry Jones was asked 118 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: why did you name your building a T and T 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Stadium and his answer was simple, I'm a horror. They 120 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: paid the most. Well, the reason they were willing to 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: pay so much is because it was the Dallas freaking Cowboys, 122 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: who have more fans than any team in the NFL. 123 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: They would not have paid that much for the Jacksonville Jaguars. 124 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: It all comes down to people and the draft has interest, 125 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: and I'll say this for the NBA, they're clearly adding 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: a couple of these like Todd mcshae types. ESPN definitely 127 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: did to kind of their repertoire to talk about these 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: players because we can't get enough of it. We've been 129 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: like this with the NFL draft forever. Now we're kind 130 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: of really die been deep into the NBA draft. Now 131 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: it's a little different because you don't know the players 132 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: once you get past fifteen. But there's just all there's 133 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: always interests in draft because the one thing with a 134 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: draft conversation, sports fans talk about it forever. We're still 135 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: talking about where Tom Brady got drafted, but even even 136 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: lower players, like if you're you know, the Saints, and 137 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk about him a little later. Michael Thomas. You 138 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: gotta you didn't even have the draft him in the 139 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: first round, right, You've got Richard Sherman in the fifth. 140 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: You just talk about these things forever. So the draft 141 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: is a huge part of the vernacular how we discussed 142 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: the sport, the interest of the sport. It's a key 143 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: cog to the business model of the money making machines 144 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: that are these leagues, and they directly impact the cash, 145 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: and no players are making more cash than the NBA players, 146 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: So NBA play. Any NBA player with a brain says, 147 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that's the dumbest idea. Luckily for the NFL, it never 148 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: comes up, because the thing with the NFL players are 149 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: just naturally pretty happy the moment they get paid. I 150 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: don't know why the NBA has a has like an 151 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: anger problem. Maybe it's because they've jumped the shark on 152 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: paying these guys. Too many guys that aren't worth it 153 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: are getting because severely overpaid. They have really become kind 154 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: of the elitist league in my opinion. They're like, basically 155 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: basketball has a golf field to it. Now only the 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: super rich can get in. Only the super rich can 157 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: enter the country club. Have you seen the prices to 158 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: go to an NBA game? The the average guy, the 159 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: average guy in America makes like fifty grand, You think 160 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: he can afford to pay to take his kid to 161 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: a game. Now it's that people are just not going 162 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: to NBA games. I mean, I get the NBA package. 163 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: I watched the games. A lot of empty seats. People 164 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: can't afford to go. So the and probably not that 165 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: much different with the NFL. These games are really expensive, 166 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: but your value. You don't even need to go to 167 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: the games. Hell, they want you to just watch the games. 168 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: That's why the NFL is so big when you hear 169 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: people talking about in the media all the time, ratings, ratings, ratings, ratings, ratings, 170 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: because because it pays for everything, literally everything. I mean, 171 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: Mark Davis has no money, yet the Raiders get a 172 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: two fifty million dollar check every year from the league. 173 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: What if you do you think that money just comes 174 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: from the sky. No, it comes from ABC, or it 175 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: comes from CBS, Fox and ESPN ABC. It's where the 176 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: cash comes from, like the main checks the media rights. 177 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: Same thing with you. Where do you think all the 178 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: NBA money Lebron? Do you think the money just becomes 179 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: because you're just Lebron James. No, well, obviously you are 180 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: Lebron James. But it's because ESPN and t n T 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: are paying the league an astronomical amount of money and 182 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: that means you're max is thirty seven million dollars. That's 183 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: where the cash comes from. And the reason they're paying 184 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: that much money is because they think where they have 185 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: the data, the amount of people that are watching, and 186 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: it's large, right, it's by far the largest audience going 187 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: right now are live sporting events, especially in the NFL, 188 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: which is the cream of the crop, and then the 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: b A, which is second. But it's all based on 190 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: fans and what do fans eat up. They love the 191 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Well, if you love the NFL draft, even 192 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: if you're not that big of an NBA guy, you 193 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: still kind of check it out because the draft, it's sweet, 194 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: it's cool. It drives interest, which in turn drives money, 195 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: which in turn that's the point of this whole thing. 196 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: This is not a charity. This whole thing is about 197 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: making money. So these guys can be unhappy. That's their problem. 198 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Like put a smile on your face, throw on, throw 199 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: on some Tony Robbins or something. That's that's a u problem. 200 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: You know, no one in this country, in this society 201 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: is gonna feel bad for humans making twenty five million 202 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: dollars a year. That's not the way America works and 203 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: it never will. So if they're gonna keep feeling sorry 204 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: for themselves waiting for fans to like have their back, no, 205 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: I get the The NBA is more of the player 206 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: empowerment league. The NFL is more of the management league. 207 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: There's a reason in my and I have a theory. 208 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: The reason the NFL is working much better than the NBA. Well, 209 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: there's several reasons, but one of the main reasons it's 210 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: a team first league and we all grow up as fans. 211 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: And I've talked about this on previous podcast. I get 212 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: so many your guys, dams now for the Middlecoff mail 213 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: back at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle. We grew 214 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: up regionally. I grew up in the Bay Area. Who'd 215 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: I grew up rooting for. Well, Steve Young and Jerry 216 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: Rice were down the street from me. Of course I 217 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: rooted for them. I wasn't that far away from the 218 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings. Like the Sacramento Kings, Samsco Giants had Barry Bonds, 219 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: root for Barry Bonds. If I had been born in Cincinnati, 220 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: I'd probably be a Bengals in a Reds fan, right, 221 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: and I'd probably root for the Kentucky Wildcats or the 222 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Louisville Cardinal That's just you, just you just born and 223 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: you grew up rooting for. Like I went to Cow 224 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: football games, still kind of a Cow football fan. Just 225 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: the way the world works, it's all regionally. I think 226 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: we think it's like a players league. Yeah, we like players, 227 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: but when a guy leaves our team and we get 228 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: a new guy, we're gonna end up watching our team. 229 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: Not that if you have a soft spot for a guy, 230 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: you're not gonna keep a track on them. But at 231 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: the end of the day, we root for teams, and 232 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: the reason we root for those teams is because we 233 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: want that team to win. And the rafts are a 234 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: big part of why these teams win. If you nail 235 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: draft picks, your team wins. It's why we're so locked in. 236 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: That's why the draft does huge ratings. So abolishing the 237 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: draft is dumbest idea I've ever heard. Okay, let's get 238 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: into Aaron Rodgers and his new coach, almost said Mike McCarthy, 239 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, And there were some things said over this 240 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: last week that kind of I think raise some eyebrows, 241 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: raise my eyebrows. And I I try to judge everything, 242 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: every person, every entity of business, whatever, on actions, not words, 243 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: because words mean nothing to me. Like all the Silicon 244 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: Valley and all the leaders in the Bay Area love 245 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: to kind of hang their hat on this kind of 246 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: liberal umbrella, like we're here for everybody. Yeah, we don't 247 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: build low income housing in this area. We don't build 248 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: new and new housing. The Bay Area has a housing crisis, 249 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: and all these quote unquote liberal communities consistently refused us 250 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: to build any new homes. So it's like, yeah, we 251 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: talk a big game, we don't really live it. A 252 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: lot of frauds around where I live, a lot of frauds. 253 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: But we get a good rap because again, our leaders 254 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley will tweet a big game, but I 255 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: see it. People have nowhere to live and they can't 256 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: afford to live. It's actually pretty sad. I saw last 257 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: year and this guy was kind of a lightning rod 258 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: in Colin Kaepernick. Remember when it was like, god, he 259 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,479 Speaker 1: might sign. Pete Carroll got in front of a microphone 260 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: and said, I think Colin Kaepernick's a starting quarterback. Well, Pete, 261 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: if you think it's a starting quarterback, will you have 262 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: a starter. But when you want your backup quarterback to 263 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: also be a starting Kaepernick or I mean a starting quarterback, 264 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: Well what did Pete Carroll do not signed Colin Kaepernick? 265 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: So hey, Pete, I don't believe what you said. I 266 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: don't believe that you believed what you said. Again, like 267 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,479 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley sounded good on paper, really hollow in reality. 268 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: So when I looked at these common ends, I don't 269 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: try to put much stock into just comments. But when 270 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: it comes from this team and when you factor in 271 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: the context of what they're saying, I go, this raises 272 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: some red flaks because when you look at Matt Lafleur, 273 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: he had a pretty good, an interesting comment. He said, 274 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: we're running a system I first picked up while working 275 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: for Kyle Shanahan in Houston more than a decade ago. 276 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: And we've never really had a quarterback who's had complete 277 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: freedom to change plays at the line you go, because 278 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: that's not really the way the offense is set up. 279 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: But I mean, this is Aaron Rodgers. He's had a 280 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: lot of freedoms in those calls, and deservedly. So now 281 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: how do we reconcile that we get to a place 282 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: where we put him in the best position to succeed. 283 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: So bottom line, the Packers hired a coach who was 284 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: bringing a philosophy that you see work with Jared Goff 285 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: checking me in the line of scrimmage with Jimmy Garoppolo. 286 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: It's Kyle Shanahan's offense. Even Matt Ryan. If you remember 287 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: that first year Kyle with Mount Ryan, Matt's like, I 288 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: don't like this offense. By the second year he adapted. 289 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: They kicked as obviously Matt schob in Houston all those years. 290 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: You just do what the coaches tell you, and he 291 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: did it fine. But this is not some give the 292 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: quarterback a bunch of freedom and let him make place. 293 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: That's not the way this offense works. That's just not it. 294 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: So Aaron Rodgers said, and this is what went whoa Again, 295 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: words don't mean anything, but it's pretty clear kind of 296 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: where we're headed. It's a conversation in progress. I don't 297 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: this is Aaron Rodgers. I don't think you want to 298 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: ask me to turn off eleven years and again, Aaron Rodgers, 299 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a lead is super smart of 300 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: recognizing defenses. We have a number of check with me's 301 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: and the line of scrimmage. It's just the other stuff 302 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: that's really not many people in this league can do. 303 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: That's not like a humble brag or anything. That's just 304 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: a fact. There aren't many people that can do at 305 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage what I've done over the years. 306 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: Got Aaron's feeling himself here and he's pretty's right. I mean, 307 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: obviously Brady can Peyton and could do it, Drew Brees 308 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: can do it, Mahomes. One day we'll be able to 309 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: do it. Roethlisberger can has run the two minute drill 310 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: for years. There are a few of us who have 311 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: just done it. It's kind of second nature. And that's 312 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: the icing on the cake. And I can do in 313 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: the of what I can do in this offense. So 314 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Aaron Rodgers. If I came into your 315 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: business and you've been doing something at a high level 316 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: where you didn't need to be micro managed, and then 317 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: I immediately start michael managing though you needed a new boss, 318 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: but the one thing you did really well, then I 319 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: start micro managing, there's gonna be a problem. So like 320 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: you come into Aaron Rodgers, you fly kind of like 321 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: a you know, parachute in the Packers needed a new coach. 322 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm not I've never argued that it was time for 323 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: a change, but this is an area and I think 324 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: this reflects uh, what's his name, Mike Murphy, Mark Murphy, 325 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: whatever the hell his name is, and the GM Goodikins 326 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: when you hire this coach and you're bringing this type offense, 327 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: like the best thing you have going for you is 328 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Well, this offense is kind of gonna be 329 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: weird for Rogers in parts of it because it doesn't 330 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: give him any control with the line of scrimmage. So 331 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: you're almost neutralizing or negating one of his most powerful 332 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: characteristics and attributes at a point as a player, being 333 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: able to identify stuff because the one thing you no 334 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: one would ever argue Aaron Rodgers really smart now sometimes 335 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: too smart for his own good. But like he's saying 336 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: here again, humble, bragg arrogant whatever, He's right, like this 337 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: is something that Peyton Manning, Brady Breese and me do 338 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, we're smarter than everyone we're playing, So of 339 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: course you give us more freedom of the line of scrimmage. 340 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: And the coach again like it's not even words versus 341 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: actions or whatever. He's like the reality of this offense, 342 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: that's not the way the offense works. Now, I don't 343 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: know enough about the intricacies. I think it's just pretty simple. 344 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: You get to the line of scrimmage, you run that play. 345 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Maybe if there's a luck that you don't like you 346 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: can check it to the other side, or if it's 347 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: a run, you can flip it to a pass or 348 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: vice versa. It's kind of basic that way, and that's 349 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: the one thing all these guys say, and I've been 350 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: around a lot of them now with the forty niners, 351 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: with Kyle. The hardest part about the offense is the burbage. 352 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: Once you get the offense, it's not really that complicated. 353 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: But the thing is, it's not like some super freedom, 354 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of freedom to the players in 355 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: this offense. It's very like every every yard is is serious, 356 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: like what yard you break off the the routes at 357 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: what yard you know you hit your aiming point is 358 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: As a running back for some of the zone running stuff, 359 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: it's very detail oriented and I think Rogers goes One 360 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: of the things we've kind of hung our hat on 361 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: was kind of being an artist almost having a little 362 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: freedom in this offense. And I think the Patriots have 363 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: proven you can kind of do the best of both worlds. 364 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: But the one thing the Patriots have had really over 365 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: the last ten years is a lot of continuity. You know, 366 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: they had McDaniels, then O'Brien came in, then McDaniels came back. 367 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: They haven't had like all these new coaches. Well, this 368 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: is an extreme shift, right You're going from McCarthy now 369 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: to this, and again you're taking a huge flyer that 370 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Lafleur even knows what he's doing, because where you have 371 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: to even prove that he knows what he's doing. But 372 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: when I think, I would imagine Packer fans because you're like, here, 373 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: you don't want a problem. You're just gonna go, hey, everyone, 374 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: pump the brakes, Pump the brakes. And I typically am 375 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: on board with that because again, words life lesson from 376 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: this thirty four year old wise man talking into a 377 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: microphone right now, unless it's like your wife or your 378 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: your child or your parents, and even then, depending on 379 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: your relationship, you should always have the intendent. Words don't 380 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: mean anything. Obviously most of my you know, I see 381 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: where you guys are listening from and have a decent 382 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: idea of the demo. You guys are smart, successful people 383 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: in business, like you know that there's a reason we 384 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: do contracts right, because we gotta force action. Your words 385 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: mean nothing, but the one is pretty clear where these 386 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: words where we're headed, Like how is la Fleur gonna 387 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: completely change. This is why he he was hired to 388 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: run this offense. And Aaron Rodgers already saying it kind 389 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: of neutralizes what I do best. I gotta man, I 390 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: had a red flag the moment I watched his press conference. 391 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: I have another red flag on it right away. And 392 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: I got another curveball for you. I was at dinner 393 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: the other like a week ago with a buddy from 394 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: the NFL and we're just bs and having a few 395 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: pops and just talking about the league or whatever, and 396 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: I was like, God, the floor, you know, it's achilles tear. 397 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: And he's like, man, that that is a big deal. 398 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: He's like that that limits what you can do on 399 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: the practice field. You can't get around because you're on 400 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: this roller. You're just not gonna be as active, especially 401 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: when you're the offensive coordinator. Now. I get it was 402 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: only O T A so, but we'll see how healthy. 403 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about the coaches health, like can he walk 404 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: around when they go to O T A S. Or 405 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: is he still on the roller, because if he's still 406 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: on the roller, it's gonna be difficult. Again. It's just 407 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been to a practice, 408 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: even if you've never been to an NFL practice. We've 409 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: just been to a high school practice. All kind of 410 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: the same. Like, the coaches do have to be able 411 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: to move around, especially the head coach slash offensive coordinator. 412 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: So that's something to keep an eye on. Again. I 413 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: don't want to say I'm out on the Packers because 414 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: that'd be foolish. They have Aaron freaking Rodgers. But I am. 415 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm a Lee and in to leave, and if they 416 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: start slow, I will be big time out. I didn't 417 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: like to hire from the beginning. I already don't like 418 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: the disconnect between the quarterback and the coach, and the 419 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: words seem like the actions and the reality that's gonna 420 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: come this fall could be kind of ugly. And that 421 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: would be gross negligence from the management because when you 422 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: have a quarterback like this and you paid them all 423 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: this money, to even potentially go down this road would 424 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: be a disaster. Okay, let's get to contracts. I think 425 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: the one thing we all know when it comes to 426 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: NFL contracts, they're all based on comps. Like like anything 427 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: in life. You buy a condo, it's based on other 428 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: condos in the building. I mean, it's just basic business right. 429 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: And in football, like the condos a square footage, right, 430 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: how many bathrooms you know, buy a home? How many rooms? 431 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: In football, if you're comparing wide receivers, they have some 432 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: go to stats. How many years you've been in the league, 433 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: how many catches you have, how many touchdowns, how many yards? 434 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Basic stuff. So the rumor that's coming out is that 435 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is gonna sign become the highest paid wide 436 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL. I like Michael Thomas. Beast can't 437 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: guard Mike. I think it's his Twitter handle. He's a badass. 438 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. And I've seen a lot 439 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: of media people, right, this is really gonna impact a 440 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: Marie Cooper and I went, okay, obviously have some thoughts 441 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: on that. So I just wrote down their catches, their yards, 442 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: and their touchdowns. And I look at Michael Thomas. He 443 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: has more catches, slightly less yards to less touchdowns. Catches 444 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: three thousand, seven seven yards and tree touchdowns Mari two 445 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: eight catches, yards and touchdowns. And then I realized, Michael 446 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: Thomas has been in the league for a year last 447 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: that's four years worth of a mari and that's only 448 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: three years worth of Michael Thomas, So you go, I'm 449 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: pretty sure Michael Thomas is the vastly superior player on paper, 450 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: and I like my mari Cooper. I'm a big a 451 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: mari Cooper fan. I think what he was in Dallas 452 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: when he got there, and what he was with the 453 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: Raiders his first couple of years is what a Mariy 454 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: Cooper can be. But when Michael Thomas signs his contract, 455 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: let's say for twenty million dollars a year, there's no 456 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: way a Marie Cooper sniffs that money. To me, he's 457 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: unless he eventually hits free agency. Because free agency is 458 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: an inflated market. So if a Mariy Cooper truly wants 459 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: to get huge cash, he's got a pull of Sammy Watkins. Now, 460 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins became a free agent because I guess the 461 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: Rams at the time, who had traded for him, didn't 462 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: pick up his fifth year option. So Mary Cooper, which 463 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: this year is on his fifth year option, play out 464 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: the season because Dallas is gonna have to do two things. 465 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: They're either gonna have to franchise tag you ll let 466 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: you hit free agency. And if you hit free agency, 467 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: we saw what happened with Uh, you know, Sammy Watkins. 468 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Like I said, you got sixty million dollars a year. 469 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: And Maria Cooper has much better stats than Sammy Watkins. 470 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: But right now, if they're both gonna sign contracts going 471 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: into like the year before their free agent year, this 472 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: is their last year under contract. Michael Thomas because he 473 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: wasn't a first round pick that you don't even have 474 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: that option. That's the shitty part sometimes about hitting just 475 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: a home run on like a second or third round pick. 476 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: You have to pay them after their third year, which 477 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it's better than missing on the pick, but 478 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: it creates, you know, it becomes a little tougher for 479 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: your cap. With a Mari, you've seen it coming for 480 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: a while now. Obviously Dallas traded for him last year, 481 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: but they knew what they were trading for. Their trading 482 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: for a player that was on a fifth year option, 483 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: and there's gonna need a new deal. But I just 484 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: you just compare the numbers. Michael Thomas catches way more balls. 485 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: The yards are vastly pretty similar, and Michael Thomas is 486 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: not like some deep threat like a Mari. Just in 487 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: terms of speed and their touchdowns. Michael Thomas probably get 488 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: ten touchdowns this year, he's gonna have, you know, potentially 489 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: ten more touchdowns through four years. Who knows, Maybe it's 490 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: more than that than a mari So when I see 491 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: this notion and I think it's just kind of a 492 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: narrative on Twitter, like a Marie Cooper's gotta wait till 493 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas gets paid. Why so he knows, like how 494 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: many millions less he's gonna get Michael Thomas On papers, 495 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: the better player on the field is the better player. 496 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't quite understand what what a Mari's leverages, even 497 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: if he waits for Michael Thomas to sign this deal. 498 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: I don't see what his agent goes to Jerry Jones 499 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: and says like, yeah, my guy is not as good, 500 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: but he wants similar money. Like what is the conversation 501 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: and just the negotiation? Right, we want the Michael Thomas contract. Well, 502 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: my first response would be why we got you because 503 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: another team traded you two you've underachieved at point of 504 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: time to your career. Michael Thomas is only kick ass 505 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: and taking names since the moment he came to the NFL. 506 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: He's just a better player. I mean, he's an arguably 507 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: a top five wide receiver in the NFL. A Mari, 508 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: you kinda you gotta be like a Marie Cooper fan 509 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: member to make a really an argument for him even 510 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: to sniff the top ten. So this notion that their 511 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: their contracts should not look that similar to me, Michael 512 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Thomas should get nineteen twenty million dollars a Marie Cooper 513 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: if he signs the contract before free agencies, probably about 514 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: sixteen million. You know. Hell Davante DeVante Adams, who is 515 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: better than a Mari, signed a contract for almost fifteen 516 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. To me, that's that would be 517 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: fair for Mari. Now, the world and negotiations and business 518 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: are not fair, you know. It's basically what you can 519 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: get someone to pay you, that's what you're worth. So 520 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: if Mary can get eighteen nineteen million dollars, more power 521 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: to him. But I don't think he's an eighteen or 522 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: nineteen million dollar player. I think he's more like fourteen 523 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: or fifteen now because he's got a little leverage because 524 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: free agency is, you know, six months away. Maybe he 525 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: gets sixteen and a half seventeen. But I don't see 526 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: how you pay him twenty million dollars. If you pay 527 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: him twenty million dollars. You've vastly overpaid. You know, ultimately 528 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: last year you didn't technically overpaid because if you didn't 529 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: get a Marie Cooper, you would not have made the playoffs. 530 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: So he was worth that first round pick last year. 531 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: He's got to maintain that to continue to be worth 532 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: it because obviously the first round pick who is going 533 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: to be compared to the Raiders took Jonathan Abram, right, 534 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: so they took a strong safety. So we'll see. I 535 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: would I would bet money that Abram never has his 536 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: productive of a career as a mari Now, you can't 537 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: compare them apples apples because they play different positions, but 538 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair thing to say that that 539 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: guy will not be as good as a marm Mary 540 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: has already made multiple Pro Bowls and should make more 541 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: in his career. But I know at this point in 542 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: time in his career, if you're just going off comps, 543 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: him and Michael Thomas don't really have that much in common. Uh, 544 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: and when it comes to their contract that number shouldn't either. 545 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Here's a new little segment we're gonna do as we 546 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: attack the summer, and we're gonna hit every division in 547 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: the NFL a little gambling style. I'm gonna use my site. 548 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: Can't give it away here just because they're not paying 549 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: for it, and we don't do free advertising. Gotta pay 550 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: the bills. So if we get an official site here, 551 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: I'll use those, but I'm gonna use based off the 552 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: metrics I use. And if you listen to my other podcasts, 553 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: you know what side I'm using. And I'm gonna do 554 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: over unders, and I'm gonna do the team that I 555 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: like to win the division given the odds. Here's what 556 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna start on the East Coast 557 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna move my way west. So every week 558 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: where every show, we'll do a new division. And this 559 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: week we'll to start east, a f C East and 560 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots, Hey deserve to go first Super Bowl champs, 561 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna work my way west. So we'll 562 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: go a f C a f C East today, an 563 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: NFC East starting early next week, and by the end 564 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: of next week we'll go you know, a f C South. 565 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: So let's start with the Patriots, Okay, and right now 566 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: on my side, I got the Patriots at eleven. I 567 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: would recommend pushing that. I think the Patriots this season. 568 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: They're depending on Nikil Harry. They lost Trey Flowers. They 569 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: have a turnover at defensive coordinator. I don't know they 570 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: hired this guy if you ever heard of him, Bill Belichick. 571 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna be calling their defensive plays. They got a 572 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: very very young roster. To me, eleven feels right like. 573 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't view them as a thirteen or fourteen win team. Obviously, 574 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: they're not an eight or nine win team. I think 575 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: eleven actually is the sweet spot, so I would recommend 576 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even bet that. I think that they're an 577 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: eleven and five team. The New York Jets. They're over 578 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: under a seven. To me, this is a team you 579 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: have to like either the Jets or Bills in this 580 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: division to win like eight or nine games, and I 581 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: think it's probably a little more likely this season to 582 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: be the Jets. They've added Levian Bell, added c J. Mosley, 583 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: they just added a GM who might help. I mean, 584 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: they're at near the top of the waiver wire. Claim 585 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: uh Sam Donald I like a lot more than Josh Allen. Again, 586 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: Levian Bell is huge for them. Their coaching staff, Adam 587 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: Gates has proven to be a pretty consistent coach. I mean, 588 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: last year was pretty shitty Miami and they went seven 589 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: and nine. I like the Jets to be around eight 590 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: and eighth this year. I like the over. Uh, I 591 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: like the over seven for sure. To me, the Bills 592 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: are a tough one because I like their coach. I 593 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: actually don't mind their defensive roster. They play hard. I 594 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: just think when you look at offense offensively, Josh Allen, 595 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: I can't expect him to take as big of a 596 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: jump year two as I do Sam Donald. Now again, 597 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Josh Allen. I didn't like him coming 598 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: out of the draft, but the more I've got to 599 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: know him as a guy, mainly through social media, I 600 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: like him. He's a likable person, So I'm rooting for him. 601 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm rooting to be wrong, but they signed a bunch 602 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: of midget receivers. I don't know, you know, I just 603 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: their draft pick at Oliver good pick. But is he 604 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: gonna be Aaron Donald year one? I think this team 605 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: is probably a year away from being really good. Remember 606 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs and they kind of took a 607 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: step back to eventually take two steps forward, probably in 608 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: like two thousand, twenty so I would probably go over under, 609 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: same as the Jets. See. To me, one of these 610 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: teams going over, one of them is going under. Maybe 611 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: the Bills are seven and nine feels like six and ten, 612 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: but again, they play good defense, they have a good coach. 613 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't bet this, and I would just if 614 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: I did, I would take the ender, and I can 615 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: get the ender right now at plus one hundred, so 616 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: basically even odds. And then the Miami Dolphins their number 617 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: is four and a half, Well, you go, they did 618 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: they upgrade a coach? I don't know. I mean it'd 619 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: be I'd be hard pressed to say that Brian Flores 620 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: is gonna prove to be a better head coach than 621 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: Adam Gaze. The numbers four and a half. Uh to me, 622 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, I would imagine the full time starter, maybe 623 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick starts a couple of games. When you see a 624 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: team that's gonna go four and twelve, they usually have 625 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: incompetent quarterback play. The one thing you would say for 626 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: the Dolphins is they're gonna have competent quarterback play. That 627 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: Patrick has proven in the NFL he can play, you know, 628 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he can win a couple of games. Josh 629 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Rosen was the tenth pick in the draft two years ago. 630 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: They still have some weapons on the outside at receiver. 631 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. To me that there are five or six 632 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: win team, I would take the over in this scenario 633 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: you get the overt. Actually pretty shitty odds. So they're 634 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: the Vegas basically attempting you if you gotta if you 635 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: want to take the over on this one, you gotta 636 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: get crappy odds. But I don't hate that one. And 637 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: then let's look at the division. So here's the thing. 638 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: Patriots just stupid. I mean minus five. They've won the division, 639 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean every year for the last ten years. The 640 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: last time they lost the division was the year Brady 641 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: got hurt. Ironically, they still win eleven and five, but 642 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs. To me, the year that they're 643 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: gonna miss the playoffs, it's not gonna be like a 644 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning type season. Remember when he just couldn't throw, 645 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: Because Tom Brady could still really throw. We see it 646 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: on the Instagram videos. We see it. How when he 647 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: plays like he can throw, it's gonna be an injury. 648 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna have a season. He's gonna have a catastrophic injury. 649 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: Knock on what. I don't want that to happen. But 650 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: if you are gonna bet against them, would simply bet 651 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: whoever you like is the second best team, and for 652 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: me it's the Jets. You get him at plus six fifty. 653 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: If Tom Brady were to go down, could they still 654 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: win nine games? Let's say he went down to like 655 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: early October. Could they still win nine or ten games 656 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: with Hoyer? I don't think they could. I I can't 657 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: stand Brian Horror. I think he's terrible. What if Jared 658 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: Stidham beats out Hoyer in training camp? That's a lot 659 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: to ask of the rookie. Now, they do have good 660 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: running backs. You know, they've got Sony Michelle. They just 661 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: drafted another running back, added Nikkio Harry. They got they 662 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: still had Edelman. They have a good offensive line, so 663 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 1: they could manipulate some offense. But if you just are 664 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: betting against the freak chance that Brady suffers a bad injury, 665 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: you could just go with the Jets at plus six fifty. 666 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: But I don't know how you mess with the Dolphins. 667 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: You couldn't touch the Bills at plus eleven hundred. This 668 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: is one of those that basically you probably just stay 669 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: away until Brady just retires because the one thing he's 670 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: shown is he's been really due Bowl. So even betting 671 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: on an injury like he doesn't really put himself in 672 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: compromising situations. Uh that this has been you know, death 673 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: taxes and the Patriots win in the division. You know, 674 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots having a one or two seed. 675 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: When's the last time the Patriots played a first round 676 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: playoff game? They just skipped that round because at minimum 677 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: they're winning twelve games. It kind of feels like even 678 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: with Brady this year they win ten or eleven. Though 679 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: I would never bet against them in the playoffs, just 680 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: too much metal, too much championship character. But it does 681 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: feel like their team it's just a lot younger. And 682 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: anytime you have a young team and they're missing Gronk 683 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: that if Brady were to go down, you know, the 684 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: Jets plus six fifty got a little value. Okay, let's 685 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: get to the Middcoff mail back bang out some of 686 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: you guys questions add John Middlecoff Instagram handle fire right 687 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: in slide up in those d m s and ask 688 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: me do you think Lamar Jackson has the tools to 689 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: become a bona fide NFL quarterback. I love his confidence 690 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: and speed, but worry about durability and accuracy. Well, I 691 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: think you said the number one thing that I would 692 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: lean on that question, no, is accuracy. You can't become 693 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: an elite NFL player and being an inaccurate quarterback. Like 694 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: to be a good NFL quarterback, you have to be accurate. 695 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: It's not even a debatable stance, right, you have to 696 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: be accurate. Now, there are degrees of accuracy, but his 697 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: baseline is not high enough, and the Ravens have basically admitted, 698 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: we know he's not accurate. We're gonna run the wing 699 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: t offense. I'm semi kidding, but kind of not so. 700 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: I do think at the end of the day, if 701 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: he's ever going to become a solid starting NFL quarterback, 702 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: not an elite runner, an elite playmaker, a solid NFL quarterback, 703 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: he has to be, you know, a sixty two passer, 704 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: especially now in this day and age where you can't 705 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: really hit wide receivers and they're wide open and you 706 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: can't really hit the quarterback except when you run. Well, 707 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: he runs, so he's gonna get hurt. Uh is? Yeah, 708 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: just I'm not a believer. Where do you think Mike 709 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: McCarthy ends up coaching next year? My fear as a 710 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: Giants fan as he ends up with the Redskins and 711 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: he coaches up Haskins. Yeah, I can see that. I 712 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, that article on 713 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers and Bleacher Report, what was 714 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: it six months ago? Whenever it was months ago, maybe 715 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: it was during the off season, was a bad look 716 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: for McCarthy. You know, he kind of came across as lazy. 717 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: He kind of you know with the massages, not the 718 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: orchids of Asa massages, but the massages where he missed meetings. Uh, 719 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: he refused to adapt, kind of came off as a 720 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: meat head. So I you know, I think his options 721 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: are gonna be limited. And the Redskins because they're so nutty. Yeah, 722 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: I could see that him being the head coach of 723 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: the Redskins and Dwayne Haskins. Maybe he's reinvigorated, maybe he's 724 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: got an edge and a chip on his shoulder, but yeah, 725 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's gonna be a little 726 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: more difficult than people think for Michael McCarthy just to 727 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: resurrect his career, which is kind of crazy because I 728 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: bet if I went to his Wikipedia page, his career 729 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: as an NFL head coaches records pretty damn good. Anyone's 730 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Now people are like, oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers, well, 731 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh had Montana, right, Uh, Mike Toma, Ed Roethlisberger, 732 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: Belichick had Brady's just it's usually the peak Arrowhead Russell Wilson, 733 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: It's usually the way it works. College. Colin mentioned the 734 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: idea that the Pelicans aren't really sold on a Lonzo Ball. 735 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: If this is the case of the Pelicans look into 736 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: trading Lonzo and the number four pick to get the 737 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: number two pick, and John Morant holiday, this is okay. Well, 738 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: as of recording this, this is what I'm doing. This 739 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: right before the NBA Draft, the Atlanta Hawks have traded 740 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: for the number four overall pick. And the one thing 741 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: I had heard because I have some friends that are 742 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: in the media that are really tight with Travish slank 743 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: who's now the GM of Atlanta. He was with the 744 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: Warriors for like ten plus years that he was in 745 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: love with r J. Barrett uh and Travis Slank is 746 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: is an elite evaluator he was a big reason the 747 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: Warriors drafted so well forever. Now he's a big reason 748 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: that Atlanta is kind of, you know, turning this thing around. 749 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: And the one thing that got me thinking that a 750 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: guy like Travis Slank, like r J. Barrett's a good example. 751 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: He's the number one overall recruit coming out of high school. 752 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: Then he went and got overshadowed by by Zion. But 753 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people kind of lose touch 754 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: if you didn't, we weren't locked into him. When you 755 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: when you evaluate college basketball players, you have to watch 756 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: them their junior and senior year in high school to 757 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: watch the matturation. Like when I watch if I'm the 758 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: SEC scout and I'm doing Clemson, well, I get to 759 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: see Trevor Lawrences sophomore in junior year, I get to 760 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: see him mature and its freshman year. Well in college basketball, 761 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: if you aren't watching them in high school and they're 762 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: one anne guy, you're missing stuff. And I think guys 763 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: like Travis Slank are locked into that. And I would 764 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: imagine he's seen r J. Barrett and gun, this guy 765 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: is gonna be a stud. Yeah, he had a I 766 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: guess he still had a good year, you know, but 767 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: I think I know for a fact he thinks he's 768 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: a stud. So keeping on R. J. Barrett in the NBA, 769 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: who's probably gonna end up with the Knicks. As of 770 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: recording this, he as you're listening, he probably is a 771 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: Nick big fan from l A and a static the 772 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: Rams are back home. I feel you St. Louis stole 773 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: your damn team. Don't ever get that twisted. Do you 774 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: think we can actually have a chance to get back 775 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl? I feel eleven wins another division 776 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: when with all the talent around us. Thoughts, I actually 777 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: think the Rams are coming back to Earth. I'm not 778 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: gonna pick them to make the playoffs this year. I 779 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: think Todd Gurley is too important of a cog in 780 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: that whole thing. And I'm it pains me to say 781 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: this because I Todd Gurley, who I thought like three 782 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: years ago, got a little overhyped, and then even when 783 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: McVeigh got there, I didn't quite love his instincts. But 784 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: over his time with McVeigh towards the end of that 785 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: first year, he was incredible. I mean, he was a 786 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: legitimate MVP candidate. Every time that he touched the field 787 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: with McVeigh. He became an MVP candidate, but now that 788 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: his knees kind of shot, I'm out on the ramps, 789 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: you know. I think they kind of come back to 790 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: earth this year. Seven eight wins. Uh. They lost LaMarcus Joiner, 791 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: they lost the Dominicans, Sue Todd gurle Lee. Who knows 792 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: what he's bringing to the table. I don't know. I 793 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: just I wouldn't be shocked if they missed the playoffs. 794 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: I actually think someone else wins the wins the NFC West. 795 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking, since football will be quiet for a 796 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: short stretch, you should make some way too early predictions 797 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: on division winners. Dot you cover Dog. It'd be a 798 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: lot of fun to see where your head's at so early, 799 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: and you could circle back and revise later as well 800 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: as after the season. Unlike Colin, I like that. Yeah. 801 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: I just actually have this idea because I know a 802 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: lot of you guys like it and I like it, 803 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: and I'll write them down. I'll come back to it. 804 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: So let's see, I wrote down Patriots that was a 805 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: tough one, and the Jets are my sleeper team in 806 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: that division. Sleeper. Yeah, I mean, I guess they're a 807 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: sleeper team because they were what they drafted the top five. Uh. 808 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: Big fan of the show and of the time, agree 809 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: with you your takes. But I was listening to today's 810 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: episode on my way back from work, and you said 811 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: golf and football are the only two sports with random 812 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: winners every year. I have to disagree with that because 813 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: hockey has one almost every year. Agree. I skipped hockey 814 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: in fairness. Not a huge hockey guy, though I do 815 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: parachute when the playoffs come. But you're right. The St. 816 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: Louis Blues one of the worst teams in the NHL. 817 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: I think statistically they might have been the worst team 818 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: in the NHL turned it around one the Stanley Cup. 819 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: So you're you're right, And as I said, but I 820 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: did say, it shows you. I was just I wasn't 821 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: thinking about hockey. But when there was a question last 822 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: week when someone had me rank home field advantages, and 823 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: I put the NHL last, especially in the playoffs, because 824 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: it's proven it doesn't matter. I mean, look, the Blues 825 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: just won the Stanley Cup at the Boston Garden or whatever, 826 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: the TBC Guard whatever they call it. So yeah, I'm 827 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: with you. You're you're right. Hey, John love pot me too, 828 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs losing some key players on defense and 829 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: potentially Tyreek Rivers getting older and the Raiders being the Raiders, 830 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: what do you think about the Broncos chances of the 831 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: division or at least a wild card spot. With a 832 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: rock solid defense and a proven vet quarterback, they could 833 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: sneak in and grab a spot this year when they 834 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: have won the Super Like the year they won the 835 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Manning. Yeah, I mean that defense when 836 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl with Manning was better. I 837 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: mean they had to keep to leave Chris Harris Jr. 838 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: And Bradley Roby we're all studs. They had Darren Stewart 839 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: who was just a hammer. Brandon Marshall was playing at 840 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: a high level. The defensive line was Von Miller, Malik Jackson, 841 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: Derek Wolfe, and I don't know if you've heard of 842 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: this guy named DeMarcus ware and then they had Sequille 843 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 1: Barrett coming off the bench. That that team, that defense 844 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: was I thought it was every bit as good as 845 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: those peak Seattle defenses when you factored, and it was 846 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: better because their pass rush was better. Their dbs were 847 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: just we're unreal. I mean, the speed, the cover corners, 848 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: the physicality, they had speed, a line actor. Oh they 849 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: also had Danny Trevathan and you look back, they had 850 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders. De Marius Thomas was still playing well. C J. 851 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: Anderson was a good player. I was at the Super 852 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: Bowl with c. J. Anderson ran for what like a 853 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: hundred twenty yards. I don't think this Denver teams anywhere 854 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: near as good, and I don't like Joe Flacco though, 855 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Their defense could be really good because 856 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: their pass rush could be great with Bradley Chubb and 857 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: Von Miller still got Derek Wolfe. Uh So, yeah, could 858 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: they surprise some people and being the wild card mix 859 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: for sure? Could they win the division? I don't. I 860 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: don't see that. I just I also think you're asking. 861 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: Someone told me the other day the Fangio's never coached 862 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: from the sideline. He's always in the booth like that 863 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: is a big, big adjustment for Vic Fangio. Uh. I 864 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: know you've talked a lot about the Browns lately, but 865 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: I was wondering your take on Antonio Callaway this season. 866 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: With all the added weapons on the offense, A lot 867 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: of people think he could have a really productive year, 868 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: and so do I what do you think well as 869 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: we saw in Hard Knocks, and then obviously if Brown 870 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: fans watch him every week, I just kind of parachute 871 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: in and out on the Browns. But I know this 872 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: player pretty well because I was locked in on him 873 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: in college and I've been watching him since his freshman year. 874 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: I was a big Jim mcawaene guy. I knew guys 875 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: on that staff, so I watched a lot of Florida. 876 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: The kid is really really talented. I think he's got 877 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 1: two major knocks. One. I think we throw out this 878 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: pretty just liberally, in the sense that we just throw 879 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: it out there, and it means different things for different players. 880 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: Maturity is a big issue for this guy. And when 881 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: I say maturity, like is he taking notes and meetings, 882 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about like being there on time? 883 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: Is he super locked in? Is he maximizing everything he 884 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: can be doing when he's around the facility now add 885 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, which is which is a good thing, but 886 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: it's also a bad thing because it's kind of a 887 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: big distraction. Jarvis is pretty locked in. Baker's there. The 888 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: talent with this guy has never been argued. He is 889 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: a legitimate talent, but he also has a lot of drops, 890 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: So Kenny catch the ball, And to me, that's a 891 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: lot with focus slash maturity, because when you prove you 892 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: can catch the ball like you don't have bad like 893 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: does Terrell Owens have bad hands? Like Vernon Davis had 894 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: bad hands? He did was not a natural pass catcher. 895 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of guys like a Marii Cooper. 896 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: I've seen a Marie Cooper make just incredible place, but 897 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper has a lot of concentration drops. And that's 898 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: what I see with Antonio Callaway is concentration drops. But 899 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: if if Antonio Callaway, it's like your fourth best wide receiver. 900 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: And I'm factoring in the two receivers they have Jarvis 901 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: O'Dell and then the tight end that's pretty and Nick 902 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: Chubb that's pretty good. Like this guy was a first 903 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: round level talent if he didn't get kicked out of college. 904 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: But I think that that kind of right up on him. 905 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: The person is a big part of who he is 906 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: as a player. So if you ever can get locked 907 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: in and grow and listen, I think it mostly guys 908 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: whore listening to this show. We all can relate. We 909 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: grew up a little later. You know some of us, 910 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: some of us kind of come into our own and 911 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: our you know two that was kind of like my 912 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: sweet spot. Others are like twenty four, twenty six. So 913 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: it's just I think, and then if it's not to 914 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: me by like your late twenties and never happens, but 915 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: it for for guys, there's like a six seven year 916 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: sweet spot. I've always believed this. And then there are 917 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: the outliers that are like ready their senior in high school. 918 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: I I went to high school with one. The dude 919 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: was ended up swimming at Stanford. Most mature guy had 920 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: ever been around. I couldn't even sniff that type. Maturity 921 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: kind of kicked in for me when I was like two. 922 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: But I've had some friends that kick in five. Then 923 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: they go on to have a lot of success and 924 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: whatever they're doing. It all hits us differently. But if 925 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: as it hit you, I think by like eight, with 926 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: whether you're a football player or not, it's never really 927 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna kick in. Now my theory I could be proven wrong. 928 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: Maybe no super late bloomers, but in my experience with 929 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: people in life, that's that's kind of the age with men. Uh, 930 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 1: women are a tad bit more mature. I think that's 931 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 1: that's a fact. You were high on Juju while he's 932 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: at SC, and you also jumped on the kill Harry 933 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: before others. You see similarities in their game, if not 934 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: what caught your eyes about both guys, Nikkie was a 935 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: little bigger. The thing that really jumped out to me 936 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: about Juju was his toughness and physicality. His junior year, 937 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: he messed up his thumb. I don't know if it 938 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: was a break or a bad look dislocation, but it 939 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: was really bad. He didn't miss one game, and during 940 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: that time he was still stiff arm and dudes making 941 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: tough catches, and it was like, damn, this school had 942 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: been knocked over the years for kind of having softer guys. 943 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Marquise Lee just got toughness. Was somewhat of 944 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: a question to me. Juju had the physical characteristics because 945 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: he was just a just I mean, well put together player, 946 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: but the way he played his physicality jumped off the 947 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: screen to me. Nakill Harry had the same thing. And 948 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: I even thought in college a little bit more of 949 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: a playmaker. Now, I guess the USC they just have 950 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: more playmakers at Arizona state he was the dude and 951 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: his physicality, his run after the catch, and just sometimes 952 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: with receivers, and you gotta be careful with this. Just 953 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: because the guy's quote unquote a little soft doesn't mean 954 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a good NFL player. But when 955 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 1: I see a guy in both these guys, when you're 956 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: not that fast, you gotta be a tough you know, 957 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: m effort, I can say motherfucker, but you know, you 958 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: gotta be tough. And at the end of the day, 959 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: Juju and Nikkil Harry aren't blazers, you know, they're not. 960 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: They're not running four or four ones, so they have 961 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: to hang their hat on like an Joan Bolden, you know, 962 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: and be super physical and contested catches and after the 963 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: play throw defensive back just because most dbs you're gonna 964 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: play the corners are not tough. So if you are 965 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: tougher than them, you have an advantage, especially when you 966 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: are physically bigger than those guys. And I see that 967 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: in Juju, and I definitely see that in Nikkiel. Nikkiel's 968 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: just got this natural feel for space two when the 969 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: balls in his hand, making guys miss uh getting yards 970 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: after the catch, that aren't there, Like when you're watching 971 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: on TV, like, how's it gonna get more yards than Boom? 972 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: He gets ten more yards because he runs over a guy, 973 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: he makes a guy miss, and there's just a an 974 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 1: ability contested catches. Is what Crabtree really had when crab 975 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: tre was humming, is to just get balls out of 976 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: the air when a guy is draped all over you. 977 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: Because when you're not a Blazer, you're gonna be in 978 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 1: contested areas. A lot defensive backs are gonna be all 979 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: over you. Right. It's like Steph Curry, for example, He's 980 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: not the most explosive point guard. So is he gonna 981 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: just consistently beat you off the dribble with explosion. No. 982 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: Where he's gonna beat you off the dribble is he 983 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: has an elite handle. So if you can't beat a 984 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: guy with just foot speed, you have to either beat 985 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: him with physicality or just you know, just intelligence. And 986 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: I think both when guys that are physical and tough 987 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: and they also have you know, excellent catch rabiuses combined 988 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 1: with clearly these guys have high football like ues. I 989 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 1: just don't see those guys busting now, I'll be honest, 990 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: I didn't think Juju was gonna be this good, but 991 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: just if I don't even know if Nikkila Har is 992 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna be as good as Juju. But I don't bet 993 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: against those guys. I wouldn't bet against an Kwon Bolden. 994 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm not betting against this guy, and I'm not betting 995 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,439 Speaker 1: I'm that didn't bet against Juju, and I'm not betting 996 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: against Kiel Harry. We'll keep firing in my d m 997 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff. Middlecoff mail back always here for you. 998 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: Uh enjoy the weekend fourth of July not too far away, 999 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 1: and uh I'll talk to everyone soon. Peace out, god speed,