WEBVTT - Laughing And Learning with James Hannaham 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:42.600 He shot, he shoot, he shot. Laugh. If you watch 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.240 Coffee Time the Baby, you know the name Flame, my 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.960 role also known as my role Flame. Come in with 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.640 last and come in with Don love Lunds. Baby, you 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.080 better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge from 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.600 Fatherhood of politics, shouting now comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.440 Yeah you know she raped shot Towns on speaking to 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.400 the grown a second. We're gonna last cut of the 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.440 kicking and at the end we leave, which is a 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.040 lift dispirite like you want to revisit. So your first 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.080 like a listen to Jill. Folks like you slip all 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:15.080 folks that we take this. Do what you do, do 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:40.399 what you do, do what I do. Hey, Hey, Hey, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.479 this is comedian Flame Monroe and welcome to this week's 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.560 episode of Laugh and Learn. This is a special episode 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.640 because I'm just coming through the whole last week and 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.920 it's I'm going to talk about some other topics. I 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.000 have a very special guest this week. But I want 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.000 to do I do want to embark on um the 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:03.160 fact that of uh uh god, my man just went blank. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:08.400 Uh Terry Nichols in Memphis, Tennessee. I applaud the black 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.120 female um police chief there in Memphis, Tennessee, for making 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.919 such swift and quick actions on arresting the culprits. The 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.720 murderers is what I'm going to call them. And now 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.520 the story is unfolding more and more that the story. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.079 It was personal with one of the officers. So as 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.840 this story unfolds, we will talk about that later on 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.040 the next episode of Left Learned, But that's not what 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.519 this episode is about. Thank you guys for joining me 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.400 in Hello, this is flaiming Roy y'all remember y'all being 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.720 Yonkers New York made four through six Sinkle to my 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.639 O Weekend. Get your tickets at Yonker's Comedy Club website 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.440 and March thirty one two April. First, I would be 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:47.200 at Tommy Teeth in Pleasanton, California. And every Monday night, 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.560 each and every I am at the world famous Laugh 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:54.280 Factory on Sunset Boulevard for free voices. And we have 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.280 the absolute best energy and best show in Southern California. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.720 And if you don't believe me, I got a witness 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.640 that's gonna come on in a minute and tell y'all 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:08.720 Hi host. Now I got a co host. His name 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.000 is Mr Memphis. Will we have a great banger. He's 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.639 a good guy. It's just a great energy. If you 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.440 come to have a great time, you will have a 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.359 great time. If you come so you won't leave sal 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.280 you'll leave a little sweeter and then you can just 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.480 be sold when you get back outside. Allowed so around me. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.639 But other than that, if you want to hear my 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.280 voice all the time, I did last So last year 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.639 I had the experience of working with this young man 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.240 and it was my very first time of doing an 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.680 honorable book an audio And the name of the book 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.080 is didn't nobody to give a ship about what what 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.480 happened to Carolina? Get what happened to call? That's James 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.720 in the background. He always corrects red leather, yellow leather. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.000 So and it was my first time actually doing an 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.560 audible book. And so he saw me on Tiffoty Hattish 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.520 as they written and he was like, I just knew 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.360 that you were Colada. We're gonna get into this. So 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.200 before we go any further, I want to introduce my friend, 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.880 a wonderful author. He is a creative writer. He's a 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:10.600 creative writing philosopher, a professor. Professor. You know my worries 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.440 is off right, Um, I could be a philosopher too 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.240 if you want. Just the wonderful man. And he was 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.640 patient with me and kind, and we have a book 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.440 out and I did audible, but he's the author, and 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.920 all the other voices that you hear in the audible 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:29.040 outside of Calatio Mercedes is the talented Mr James Hannahan. So, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.880 without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:36.480 show here at Laughlan my very special guest, Mr James Hannahan, 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.600 high Flame. Thank you so much for inviting me to 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:48.039 this um little party, this little private party. Um, it's 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.480 uh terrific to be here. It's terrific to see you 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:55.200 on stage for the first time last night, and there 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.480 was a lot of flame, which I was really happy. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.560 I was like, is flame just gonna do like a 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.960 ten in that thing? And go? I was overjoy of it. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:08.040 It was like your jam and you were hosting and 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.240 and also doing your stand up. It was just really 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.440 really fun. And I mean, I think almost anything that 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.560 comes out of your mouth it's hilarious. He let's know 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:23.440 that already, but oh don't, because when we were making 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.560 the book that first that you didn't think. So, so 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.320 let me tell you all tout because I told the 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.040 flame best is I don't laugh on my on my 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.200 coffee time, I say, oh my god. It was a 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.560 hard experience because it was new for me. But James, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.080 you was so patient and you work with me. But 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.279 I'm gonna tell you all the truth. James was sad 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:42.880 and the hell out of me because y'all know we 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.440 was in like a fat back. They stuck together the time, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.159 and he was like, bitch, if you don't get it right, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:57.440 I'm going to I want to say it. But I 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.520 was so determined too, because I all the look on 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.360 James's face, and there was one time, James, you looked 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.719 at me and you were so frustrated, and I'm telling 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:07.720 you in my head, I was like, oh my god, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.640 I don't know if I'm the right person for this. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.560 But when I drove home after the first day, I 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.080 was like, I got to get better. And the next 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.040 morning I started off as ragging as I did the 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:18.800 first day, but a couple of hours in we just 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.560 got some kind of rhythm. I think it was when 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.799 you told me, James, like, let's go to the person 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.320 who's on stage now. The only thing that's hard about 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.440 that is that because you saw me last night. I'm 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.680 so used to moving around and my hand movements and 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:33.920 and you know you can't do that when you do audible. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.240 But you that right there, whatever you said to me 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.279 on that, when you said that to me, it made 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.599 me go into a space of like, Okay, bitch, your 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.480 own stage, deliver right, because I mean, even though you 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.719 can't see the audience, they're they're they're out there, They're 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.400 just you just can't. You just don't know exactly how 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.280 they're going to react to every last thing. Um, But 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.480 I'm a cover audience, so you know, you have it 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.240 easy with them. You don't have it easy with me. 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.800 But I mean, you you keep saying this, but there 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.080 really wasn't anybody who was any better. It was like, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.280 you know, they were it was gonna be you or 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:09.560 I was going to do the whole thing. And I 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.680 really didn't want to do the whole thing because I 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.480 kind of no I kind of could have done it. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.800 I could have spoken in the words of Carlatta, but 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.520 what I really wanted was to do, like, you know, 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.280 a dialogue between myself and someone who is part of 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.400 the trans community. It was just really important to me, 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.760 and like My publisher was sort of a little pushing 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.000 back about that, UM, but I was like, I think 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.400 it's really important, um too for people to understand that 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.080 not only is this a book that I wrote, it's 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:43.520 a role that someone can play that can be you know, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:52.680 helpful in terms of advocacy and entertainment and also you know, 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.360 just to like center the life of somebody who is 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.560 trans um in a context in which it doesn't happen 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.840 often enough. Let me ask you a question, James, So 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.680 where did Carlotta come from? Was there was this a 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:08.760 character you hear? It was just someone who you grew 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.680 up with. I mean, because it comes from somewhere. It's 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.240 it's hard to really say. I think, you know, I 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.120 spent a lot of time in the nineties like going 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:21.280 out to shows a gay bars and stuff, and at 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:25.440 the time there was much more of a like gray 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.760 area between who was trans and who was a drag queen, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.280 and everybody was on stage and everybody, you know, was 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.360 being frank about all kinds of things, and I, you know, 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.240 I just I have a good ear for a language, um, 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.079 and so I picked up a lot of that kind 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.400 of thing, and it's it's sort of you know, and 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.360 I would kind of do it myself sometimes when the 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:52.720 when the the feeling struck, and I mean, I guess 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.160 it's just it was just kind of there. I mean, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.600 Carlotta just kind of jumped out of my head at 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.560 a certain point. Um. Years ago, I wrote a story 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.480 that was kind of in a similar sort of voice. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.720 It was about UM. I had seen I had seen 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.520 this episode. I think it was a Mari Povich and 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.959 there were these um trans girls, um who. It was 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.360 one of those episodes where they were trying to exploit 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:22.800 the shock value of like, you know, the realness, you know, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.480 girls who were like not colockable um coming out on 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:33.360 national television to like really straight, doggy type dudes. And 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.520 they did that and they there was a riot on stage. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.319 It was like baits through everything everywhere, And you do 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.079 you don't remember this? Said, you didn't see this episode? 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:47.640 It was nuts or is it a man or a woman? 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.200 His whole entire career was or you a man or woman? 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.160 So I couldn't tell you which one it was because 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.719 it was I know, but these were black girls, So 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.880 I was particularly interested UM. And so I wrote this 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.079 story that was like Michael things always was, how these 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.400 men say that they didn't know this woman with trans 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.440 that they slept with him. Stevie wanted to get thirteen 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.840 keys and man, baby mamas. He ain't never seen a vagina, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:19.120 but he never made that mistake either, Good blood Jesus. Anyway, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:20.760 I wrote the story that was. It was in the 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.880 form of an apology letter written by somebody who had 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.080 been involved in that, just saying, oh, I'm so sorry 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.480 that those men lost their minds over this um and 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.120 it's kind of ana. But I knew I was. I 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:34.640 always kind of knew that I was going to come 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.760 back to it at some point. Oh sent me the script, James, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.439 because James the Carlott is the character originally had a 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:48.440 Brooklyn dialect. So James sent me the manuscript and paper 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.040 I printed out out in paper form. So I thought 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.000 that there were a bunch of typos in this. So 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.040 I went through with my thing, and I did all 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.800 the type of right what I had with typos. Where 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.480 was actually the dialect? Oh my god, it was. It 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:11.319 was UNI called African American um vernacular English. Oh they yeah, no, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.559 I you speak correctly. And I still go back to 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.880 what I want to talk about, how I want to talk. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.719 But when carlt is when I read the story and 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.360 I was like, oh my god, this woman has so 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.719 many similarities, so many parallels to my actual life. You know, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.400 I had no idea until we met and you told me, yeah, 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.280 I mean I only saw your stand up and I 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:40.000 was like, that is the sensibility that that car Lot. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.719 That's exactly the sensibility that car Lotta has, just to 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:48.079 kind of like, you know, no Fox left, you know, 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:53.520 funny as how um survivor. And I said, you know, 0:11:54.760 --> 0:12:05.480 I want this person. I want this we to to 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.599 be the voice of Carlotta um come come, hell or 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.280 high water. It was a wonderful opportunity. It kicked my 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.160 but but I'm telling you the payoff now is that 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.319 it's doing so well. And I'm so happy that it's 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.960 doing so well for you, James, because in my head, 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.480 in my heart, I am such a bit. But when 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.800 I work for somebody and they believe in me, in 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.400 my head, all I could think about is I must 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.520 do a good job for this person because they hired 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.280 me to do this project. That's how I thought. What 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.240 they ready. But that's how I think, well anything when 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.959 somebody gives me an opportunity and say I don't want 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.839 anybody else to do this, but you, I really want you. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.800 So then I get in my head to say beat you, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.199 gotta kill you, got to kill it so great and 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.080 come and and so when James and I were talking, 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.240 because Carlado originally was supposed to have been a Brooklyn dialect, 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.400 we know, I mean she does, she still does. It's 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:57.720 just you know, you you're from Arkansas. And there were 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.120 moments at which Arkansas me into the mix a little 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.640 bit too much, and I had to say, let's bring 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.000 it to New York. But nobody, you know, nobody. There's 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.800 there's a lot of overlap between you know, Black English 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.320 all over the country. UM. And you know, the Great 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.679 Migration brought so many black folks from the South to 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:22.400 the North. Um. You know my parents generation included, UM. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.599 And so you know there's there. There doesn't have to 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.360 be that. I don't think anybody's gonna split hairs about 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:35.880 that except me. And not that much. Wasn't Jeff Forest book? 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.400 What was? What was your other books? Jaye? My first 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.640 book is called God Says No, and it's about uh, 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.520 a fat closet case from South Carolina black man who 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.920 is does a lot of really ridiculous things to try 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:56.760 to cure himself of his homosexuality. It's a little comical 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:02.640 but also kind of you know, sad um. And my 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:08.240 second book is called Delicious Foods and the short answer 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.480 about what it's about is human trafficking, but human trafficking 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.120 in the United States among black people in the South 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:21.160 in the nineties. Right. So I found out reading this 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.160 book that was like true stories about labor abuse around 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.640 the world, and there was in it. In it there 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.080 was a story of this woman who was enflaved pretty much, 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.800 although they didn't call it that, right, So they just 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.680 you know, held you against your will and didn't pay 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:44.880 you at this farm in Florida in and I lost 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.520 my mind. I was like, I have been looking around for, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.200 you know, some way to address the legacy of slavery 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:56.200 in fiction, right, And I thought one of the problems 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.520 that a lot of people run into is that, you know, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.960 if you write something that's literally about antibellum slavery, um, 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.360 you run the risk of people thinking that it's just 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.360 about the past and like, you know, they don't have 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.280 to worry about it anymore, and you know, people are 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.160 over it. But When I found out about that story, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.080 I was like, oh, ship, it doesn't have to be 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.680 a period piece. This ship is still going on. Black 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.800 people are still being enslaved in bus South in our 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:30.960 contemporary world. Yeah, is that called indentured? Servit too? I'm, I'm, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:35.120 I'm and I'm it's no, it's modern slavery is what 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:41.800 it's called. Yes, I know, right, you know what I 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.400 was like, No, no, no, no, no no no no 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.080 no no no, not that saying that the joke made. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.600 It takes me back to Alex Thomas's joke last night 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.320 when he was talking about I was trying to bring 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.600 back Peek and Cutton for a hundred I wouldn't give 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.720 a damn if it was bad million. I'm not picking up. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.440 I was gonna say, I would do it for like 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.360 a month or like, I don't know, a little while, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.160 just to get the money and then give the money 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:17.560 to some charity. You know that's against labor abuse like that. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:24.040 I mean, you know, it's dangerous to even entertain as 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.520 a thought experiment, like, you know, an idea like that, 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:32.880 especially under Trump. I can't even imagine. I fine, I 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.600 can only I can only imagine if there's like a 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:40.560 parallel in some you know some you know, a foreign country, 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:46.040 um where where people are just under the thumb of 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.840 some dictator. Like that's the only way I can imagine that. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.480 And James, well, you were a world traveler and Jame 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:53.920 is a food kind of so let me tell you 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:58.440 they uh but and he's they what what I'm trying 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.120 to remember exactly what you tell me? What you were 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.480 about water? What was your your philosophy about water? Oh, 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.159 my husband says, I'm a I'm a snob about water. No, no, no, 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.320 you called it something else. You are a water critic 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.840 or you are No, I didn't say critic. What did 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.560 you say? I don't I don't remember. I just sometimes 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.240 I just use words and people are like, what was 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.640 that word? Different? Like I just used it. I don't 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.080 know what you mean. Just use words. Filming and you 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.520 uh at taping and you said I'm a water connoisseur 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.480 waters was that might have been it? Yeah, it was 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.040 something like that because you drink and so James says, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.439 traveled the world. So, James, what's your what is your 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.040 favorite place to go and eat? Where is your favorite place? 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:42.640 I'm sorry you're go and eat? Um Legacy did well. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:50.280 In December, I was in Indonesia, UM, and Indonesia. Indonesia 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.439 prood is actually one of my favorites um and one 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.000 of the group. And it's kind of hard to get 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.120 in New York. Um, it's possible, but it's like it's 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.960 not like it's not as ubiquitous as like high restaurants 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:04.359 or whatever. Um, but there was there was always like 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.159 some Indonesian food on whatever menu. UM. Even if you 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.760 were at like a hotel, there would always be like 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.280 off to the side or like in in with the 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.960 rest of the restaurants. And it's it's just like really 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.560 spicy and UM. They do noodles and they do like 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:27.200 grilled meat stuff and it's just it's a really delicious 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:38.159 um set of of um cuisine things what I mean. Um, yeah, So, 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.760 I mean I really love that we ate really well 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.760 in Mexico too. I feel like we did not have 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:48.280 a bad meal in Mexico. Yeah yeah, yeah, but just 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:55.520 don't drink that water at least that at the well. 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.360 I mean maybe if you're having you know, issues, it's 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.760 a good thing. Clean it all out. No, I don't 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.359 think it's a good it's like, you know, one of 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.280 the micro rooms. That's really the problem. It's nothing, you know, 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.920 it was just a laxidents that would be fine, Oh 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.280 my god, but it's not particularly slam right now. So 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:20.480 I'm good on purpose. James, I am. I am over 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.920 the moon with how many people I get inboxes from that, 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.080 because I told you when we would take it, I said, oh, Jame, 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:27.960 if you want my voice, my voice is so weird 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.080 to me. But I get so many in boxes from 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.680 so many people saying, oh my god, I love the 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.440 calmness of your voice while you would tell the story. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.359 And I always say, I promise you that wasn't me. 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:42.040 James put me had a baby so comfortable that I 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.199 could do this because I was nervous as hey, let 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.399 me just be very honest. I was very It was 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.160 my first time I was a virgin. You took my virginity. Jane. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.200 I'm I'm blushing. Um, I know you can't tell, but 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:01.800 I am, uh yeah. I mean, I've worked with actors before, 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.240 and I've worked with people who have not had training, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.080 you know, in acting, which is fine, you know, as 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:10.520 long as and you're I mean, you're one of the 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.080 only actors I've ever heard begging for line readings. You know, 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.560 line reading is like you know, when somebody tells you 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.960 exactly how to say the line, and most actors despise 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.959 that they will like stab you in the neck if 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.920 you give them line reading. When you're like, give me 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.280 the line readings, give me the line I want them. 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.720 I wanted. So I was like, Okay, here we go. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:36.040 Let's just you know, bath this out. Let's let's you know, 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.520 I you know, I had faith that you could do it, 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.359 and I could see how badly you wanted to do it, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.960 and I knew that from my perspective, like I didn't 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:47.879 want to have come all the way across the country 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.680 and you know, convinced my publisher to let me do 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:55.119 this and have it not work out, Like that was 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.280 not an option. So I was like, you're the best 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.280 week we found. You're you know, perfect for the role. 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.600 Let's go. But and I was having a good time 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.680 with you too, don't you know that That is also 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.520 that's also also I mean, that's one of the things 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:15.320 that really makes me think that a collaboration is going 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.680 to work out if like I'm having a good time 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:19.520 with the person, Like I don't want to be fighting 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.600 with somebody and trying to make work. Um, unless the 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.280 fighting is like about the work and not about like 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.680 our personal whatever. Right, Um, so I was having a 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.560 great time. You were getting it. I mean we you know, 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.880 when we went back and listened to that first day, 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:40.199 we were like, oh, this wasn't that bad. Really, No, seriously, 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:41.840 I think some of the some of that first day 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:46.800 is like in the you know, is what they used it? 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.520 I don't, you know, it's hard to know after like 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.600 after you do record an audiobook, you just give it 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.280 away and and then the eddit people who edit it 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.400 do all the choices about like which take and all 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.600 that stuff. So, I mean, I don't know exactly how 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.359 much they took from each day we did it, but 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.480 like we went back and redid some of the first day, 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.680 but I think they actually ended up using some of 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.720 what we did on the first day. Anyway, Yeah, it 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.959 was fine. Are you a professor at at what at 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:22.480 which university institute? It's an art school in Brooklyn, Okay? 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:28.200 And you do you create a writing right? Yes? Are 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.639 you as patient with your students as you were with me? 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:36.119 Or no? I have to say I probably would be 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:40.360 in a situation in a similar kind of situation. Um, 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:41.879 but there's a little bit of you know, it's more 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.520 self selecting. By the time the students get to me, 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.200 like they're already saying, like, I have written these things. 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.160 I want to be a ruiner. This is what I'm doing. 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.280 If it isn't just like I'm gonna try this new 0:22:54.400 --> 0:23:01.679 thing writing and it's gonna you know, hopefully it's gonna work. Um, Unfortunately, 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.119 I mean if I couldn't, okay, I I could deal with, 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:09.040 you know, helping you figure this out right, I probably 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:13.920 couldn't deal with a whole class a flame Monrose doing 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:19.520 like people struggling in the same way. No, I would 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:25.520 have I would have me times Tan James. No, I 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.080 mean there is only one I can. I can tell that. 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:30.920 But you know what, James, So let me ask you 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.600 a question, James, when when you so if somebody's in 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:36.800 the audience listening, and they because I would love to 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:38.400 write a book. I want to do my life story. 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.280 I want to talk about I do a children's book. 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.760 But how would I even go? I have a million 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.639 ideas in my head, but I wouldn't know where to 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.920