WEBVTT - Raheem 'The Dream' Kassam Guards The Freedom Hut 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:05.240 Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. It is a Monday, 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.280 the twenty ninth of April two thousand and nineteen. My 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:13.360 name is Raheem Kasam. I'm the global editor in chief 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.119 of human Events dot com. Some of you will remember 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:22.160 Human Events from being Ronald Reagan's President, Reagan's favorite magazine, 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.320 where we're bringing that website back to life this week 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.800 after a long time on the sidelines. We'll be talking 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.480 to you a little bit about that more later on 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.680 in the show, but I wanted to start off by 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.040 talking about something that I found particularly egregious over the 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.040 past couple of days. And it's really it's ugly head 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.840 once again. And I feel like a lot of people 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:47.839 aren't paying enough attention to this, but the Democrat Party 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.880 in the United States at the moment, alongside the left 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:57.800 leaning media, I think, is becoming increasingly and overtly anti Semitic. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.160 The level of jew hate tread out there on the 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.480 political left, ladies and gentlemen is not just becoming commonplace 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:11.320 now but actually rather routine and expected of left wing 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.760 politicians and left wing news outlets. There was a cartoon 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.959 you'll remember in the New York Times, in the international 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.720 version of the New York Times this weekend. At least, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.920 I hope you remember. Everybody should have seen this. Everybody 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.160 should have been paying attention to this this weekend. It 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:34.240 was an absolutely ghastly cartoon that depicted a blind President 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:40.280 Trump with a yamaker on a kippah, being led with 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:46.000 a with a taut leash by his German dashon seeing 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.840 eye dog that resembled Benjamin Nett and Yahoo, the Israeli 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.680 Prime Minister, and in the cartoon, Benjamin Nett and Yahoo 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:59.040 had a star of David on his dog collar. Now, 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:03.760 if you're trying to make an assertion that the Israeli 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.400 Prime minister is leading the US president, you could do 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.440 it without or that's Jewish symbolism. You could do it 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.800 without the German dog. You could do it without the 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.200 kipper on Donald Trump's head. But no, they chose, The 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:23.600 New York Times chose intentionally to lead with with Jewish 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:28.359 symbolism that would be would be probably well placed in 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:34.400 the Nazi era newspaper Dishturma. Right, That's that's where that 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:40.800 sort of offensive symbology historically can be seen. And you 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.000 see it often as well still, and I think a 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.040 lot of people have to pay very close attention to 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.600 this as well. You see it on the sort of 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:52.280 neo Nazi side of the of the political debate in 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:56.399 both the United States and indeed in Europe. And you'll 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.680 notice I don't say the extreme right or the far right, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.280 because I don't believe that Nazis have anything to do 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.040 with the political right. I don't. I think perhaps they 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:08.360 seek to latch on to us, onto people like me 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.320 who are right wing, but but they have nothing to 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.200 do with us, almost nothing in common. They tend to 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.120 be very socialistic in their economic policies, very totalitarian, and 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:21.639 a very unlibertarian in their in their social policies. It 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.200 disturbs me deeply because not only did the New York 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.400 Times lead with this cartoon this weekend, they've done it 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:32.160 again today. There is another cartoon in the New York 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:38.600 Times International today depicting a selfie stick wielding Benjamin Nett 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.920 in Yahoo with a tablet in his hand as if 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.960 he's coming down from Mount Sinai with a star of 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:50.960 David on it. Again, and these things are often not contextualized. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.680 The one that you saw this weekend actually showed something 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.840 that was not related to the article that was underneath 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.600 the cartoon. It was just an offensive cartoon for the 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.160 sake of having an offensive cartoon. It was just due 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.240 hatred for the sake of due hatred. And why am 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.960 I talking about this? Why does a cartoon in the 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:17.120 New York Times matter on a Monday evening when so 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:18.880 much else is going on a new cycle? Because I 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:23.080 tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, the accusations of bigotry 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.960 and racism and xenophobia and all those sorts of things 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.200 have been levied at the political right for so long, 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.479 and I have said for so long, and those of 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.279 you who have listened to me before on this show, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.400 who've seen my writing before, and who've listened to Buck 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.240 on this show before, you know you will know that 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.000 we don't just outright reject those things. We have said 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.279 time and time again. The left is projecting. It's projecting 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.960 its own disturbing identity politics. It's projecting its own disturbing 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.440 hatred for significant groups in the United States and indeed 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.040 all across Europe and the wider world as well. They 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:03.760 project what they think onto us and shout bigger, bigger, biggot. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.120 They are the biggots. Ladies and gentlemen. They've proved it, 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.640 not just once. This weekend. When The New York Times 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:16.040 didn't apologize, they said, they said they what was it? Regret? 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.200 We expressed regret. It was so sorry. They said it 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.560 found its way in somehow it didn't meet our editorial standards. 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.320 Don't know how it happened, won't happen again. It happened 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.880 again today, happened again two days later. What I'm saying 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.560 to you is this level of political discourse is now 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.880 institutionalized on the political left. And you'll probably notice I 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.840 don't speak with an American accent. I'm from the United Kingdom, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.000 and in the United Kingdom, the leader of the Opposition 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:48.360 Party is a chap called Jeremy Corbyn. Now, Jeremy Corbyn 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.240 is an old school Marxist. I mean he is of 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.240 the hard left. He makes Bernie Sanders look like Ron Paul. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.279 He makes Bernie Sanders looked like a right wing libertarian. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:08.480 Jeremy Corbyn has been known to march alongside Hezbollah supporters 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.560 in Trafalgar Square and in Parliament Square on the annual 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:16.680 Al Kood's Day march. Jeremy Corbyn invited to tea in 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.360 the House of Commons, members of the Irish Republican Army, 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.760 the terrorist faction the IRA, just a few weeks after 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.400 they tried to bomb the British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.520 and half of the cabinet at the Conservative Party conference 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:37.880 back in the eighties. Jeremy Corbyn has had lunch with 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.520 leaders of Hamas. Jeremy Corbyn has spun for Iranian state 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:48.640 Television Press TV, and that level of Marxism that has 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:54.279 at its core, at its core anti Semitism as a 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.200 part and parcel of it, has now found its way 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.680 over to the United States. And I've been warning about 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.400 this for years. We've seen it happen to our politics 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.480 in the United Kingdom, the left pulling further and further 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.040 to left, and they get away with it because media 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.840 outlets not only do not hold them to account, but 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:20.160 they give them succor and support. Who remember when elan Omar, 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:26.520 this new congresswoman, was accused of antisemitism, rightfully so, just 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.480 a couple of weeks ago, almost all of the Democrat 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:36.200 establishment and everyone in the mainstream media rode to her 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.840 aid they said, no, she's not antisemitic. You're just saying 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.520 that because she's a Muslim, or she's a Somali woman, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.240 or she's an immigrant, or she's brown. You know, they 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.120 hurled every single thing they could possibly hurl in her 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.960 defense at the people. And they weren't just right wingers, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.520 by the way. There were still some people on her 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.240 side saying how unacceptable this was. There were still some 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.560 people in the middle saying how unaccept all this was. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.480 But they hurled at all of us who were objecting 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.760 to her behavior, to Linda Sarsau's behavior, to Lewis Farakhan's behavior, 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:16.040 to the new political left in the United States behavior. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:21.320 They hurled all these things in their defense. And I 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.840 have to tell you, I think that creates an incredibly 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.960 disturbing line of demarcation now, and it's something that we 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.000 have to pay very close attention to because it has 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:36.440 real world implications. If the political right is supposed to 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:41.000 own Richard Spencer, if the political right is supposed to 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.800 own Jason Kessler, who is an Obama supporter, by the way, 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.120 who put together that Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.240 if we have that cross to bear, then the left 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:55.440 should at least be expected to take action against extremism 0:08:55.880 --> 0:09:00.400 political extremism within their own ranks, and at this point 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.840 in time, ladies and gentlemen, they don't they aren't expected 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.880 to do that. And that is something that I think 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.920 as we are led into the twenty twenty election cycle, 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:17.400 will become even more prevalent. Remember the Democrat National Convention 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.360 the last time over. On the first day of the 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.679 Democrat National Convention, and by the way, the media matters 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.600 of the world will say, no, no, this is fake news. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.439 What rahem is about to say, it's not fake news. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.679 Go and look at it yourself. On the first day 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.560 of the convention, there were more Palestinian flags in that 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.520 convention hall for the DNC than there were American flags. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:44.959 Identity politics has gone way to the extreme. The placation 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.720 of the jew hatred that stems from many Middle Eastern 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.600 countries and many North African countries that finds its roots 0:09:53.600 --> 0:10:00.120 in radical or Orthodox Islam is now a mainstay the 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:05.439 Democratic Party of America. And again it has real world implications. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:11.000 The people who are shooting up synagogues out there, the 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.360 people who are burning churches out there, the people who 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:20.160 are assailing simply because they disagree with somebody's religious perspective. 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:25.480 They are encouraged by hearing these things from your representatives, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.280 and they are encouraged by seeing them in your press. 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.199 And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my i suppose opening 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.800 statement for the day. We have a great show for you, 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.520 packed full of great guests. We're going to go really 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.000 around the world today. We're going to talk a little 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.800 bit about what's going on in my home country, the 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.559 United Kingdom. As I'm sure some of you are aware, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.920 we voted to leave a little thing called the European 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.240 Union a couple of years ago, and it still hasn't happened. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.840 We've got one of the candidates who are standing for 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.400 an all new part he called the Brexit Party. His 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.480 name is Martin Daubeney. He will be joining us on 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.959 the show. We've got Jason Miller, the former communications director 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.480 for the Trump twenty twenty campaign, will be joining us. 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.400 Jack Persobic of One American News, Terry Schilling the American 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:21.600 Principles Project, and my business partner, Will Chamberlain, who is 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:25.239 a great a great lawyer and a great political commentator. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.880 Some of you may have seen his periscopes and lady 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.839 does on Twitter. He'll be joining us as well, along 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:34.640 with President Ryan Williams of the Claremont Foundation also, so 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.840 stay tuned. You're not going to want to miss this show. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.280 Ladies and gentlemen. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.720 Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back. Okay, welcome back to 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.280 the buck Sexton Show. My name is Raheem Casalm, the 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.560 global editor in chief of Human Events dot Com. I'm 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.920 very pleased to be joined now by Jason Miller, the 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.760 former senior communications adviser to the Trump campaign and the 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.400 chief spokesman for the Trump's transition team. Jason, thanks for 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.280 joining us. Raheem, thank you so much for having me on. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.000 I was going to say Buck sounds a little bit 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:08.040 different today, but I'm kind of digging into action. I 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.760 can only imagine what Buck Sexton doing an impersonation of 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:16.040 Raheem Gassam would sound like. I'm sure very offensive to everyone. Jason. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.200 I wanted to ask you. The Trump twenty twenty campaign 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:24.840 manager Brad Pascal was on the televisions this weekend talking 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.960 about the bigger and better campaign that he foresees for 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.360 next year. Obviously a lot of people are thinking, wow, 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:36.280 with this Democrat lineup of candidates, it's going to be 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.040 a walk in the park for President Trump, but Brad 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.000 doesn't seem to think so. Brad seems to think, you know, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.360 they've got to throw everything in the kitchen sink and 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.480 even more at this I wonder if you agree with that, 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.480 and also what you think of his strategy that he 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.760 outlined talking about other sort of states that haven't traditionally 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:58.000 been in play coming into coming into being battleground states 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.440 next year. So great question. Having been part of President 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:05.120 Trump's historic twenty sixteen campaign, knowing Brad Parsco and the 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.640 Trump team very well, I think what Brad's doing is 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.520 smart for a couple of reasons. Number one, he's being 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.439 realistic that this is the country is still very divided 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.000 on the partisan basis. And even though President Trump has 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.920 taxes and reduced regulations and fought for better trade deals 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.320 and we're seeing wage growth greater than inflation for the 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.960 first time in a heck of a long time, the 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.319 fact of the matter is is the media is going 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.640 to attack President Trump every single day from now all 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.400 the way up through twenty twenty. So what Brad is 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:41.160 doing is he's organizing and professionalizing a top shelf campaign 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.080 that's ready to go to battle regardless of whoever the 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.400 Democratic nominee is. There's another important things I think Brad's doing, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:52.320 which is recognizing that partisan and demographic shifts in certain 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:57.000 states are changing the outlook and the prospects for twenty twenty. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.440 So where you take a look at, say, for example, 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.880 Minnesota in Wisconsin and even Michigan I think will even 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.760 be in better position for President Trump as we go 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.440 into and actually I'd say also Ohio in Florida. I 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.880 think all of those states will be in better position 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.920 for President Trump than they were in twenty sixteen. You 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:23.520 look at certain states such as Arizona, Texas, North Carolina 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.000 that I think will be a bit tougher going into 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.440 twenty twenty just because of the way folks are moving around. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.920 And I think it's important that Brad lights that fire 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.200 now and so nobody's asleep at the switch. Yeah, I 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.520 mean in your estimation. Two questions that follow on from 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.600 that in my mind, Number one, what do you make 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.840 of the fundraising capabilities now? Because again I think there 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.120 is a level of complacency out there given the field. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.440 I mean, what have we got, We've got, We've got 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.880 Pete Butter joke or whatever his name is. We've got 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:56.000 Joe Biden, We've got Kamala Harris. I mean, Beto is 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.120 just disappeared by the way. Anybody's seen Beto recently or 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.160 I think he had a rally of about twelve people 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.880 the other day or something like that. So there may 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.320 be a level of complacency out there, especially as regards fundraising, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.200 I think, and I'm concerned a little bit about that. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.640 And the other question I guess is what do you 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.160 see the campaign issues being. What do you see Brad 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.800 focusing on in terms of policy as we go into 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:23.760 next year? Another good question here, So with regard to 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.640 the complacency, I completely agree with you on this. Now, 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.680 the good news is is that President Trump is still 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.200 turning out huge crowds and people still show up, and 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.240 I think his base will be energized. But I think 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.800 for so many Trump voters there, I think this is 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.200 part of the reason why we got hit so bad 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.160 in twenty eighteen. They feel really good about where things are. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:47.320 We're historic lows for unemployment rate, so we're seeing the 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.760 fact that China is actually making moves to come at 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.120 us with a better trade deal. There's a whole long 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:57.120 way to that actually getting done and being enforced in 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.880 being concrete in finalized here. But the fact of the 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.120 matter is that Trump is winning on so many different 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.160 fronts continue Supreme Court justices that I feel a lot 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.680 of our voters won't just to be honest with I 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.440 think I've gotten really lazy and they think that everything's fine. 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.960 And of course everyone around the country is going to 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.280 recognize the great work that Trump's doing, and so I 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.520 get where I worry about that. I think you're completely 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.640 right there, and that's part of the reason why I 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.800 think it's smart that Parscale is lighting the fire and 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.080 some of these traditional Republican states to get people thinking, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.920 to get them more, to get them start actually motivated. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.720 So that's that's smart of him to do. On the 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:39.440 here is where when we talked about the twenty twenty field, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.200 and obviously there's news today with Joe Biden doing his 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.880 I guess they call it a rally, but it does 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.200 look like there are many people there in Pittsburgh. I'm 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.040 a bit of a contrarian when it comes to Trump allies. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:56.240 I actually think Joe Biden is literally the single best 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.760 nominee that Donald Trump could go up against in the 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.080 general election the best chances of winning. Now, I know 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.800 that might sound a little bit crazy, but hear me 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:08.160 out for a moment. I think the traditional Washington mindset 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.640 is to look at things in kind of a linear 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:15.560 ideological construct. Who's the moderate, who's the conservative, who's the liberal? 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.560 Where people? And also in the pure geographic terms. Joe 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.919 Biden was born in Pennsylvania and then spent most of 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.879 his adult life in Delaware and Washington, DC, so he 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.040 might have advantages in different places. I don't look at 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.760 it that at all. I think that what's more important 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.639 here is Jason. Jason, sorry to interrupt you. We're up 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.240 against the break him, but can we can we hold 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.639 you for another quick segments five or ten minutes and 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.639 we'll come back. Okay, we'll be right back. This is 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.400 the Buck Sexton Show. We're gonna be back with Jason 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:46.000 Miller in just a moment. Welcome back to the Buck 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.159 Sexton Show. This is Raheem Kasam guest hosting for Buck Sexton. 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.200 And usually when I'm in Bucks Studio, I say I'm 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.960 I'm occupying the Freedom Hut, but I'm not in the 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.560 Freedom Hut today. I'm down here in West Palm Beach, Florida, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.359 causing all sorts of nightmares. Are brilliant producers and engineers 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.440 now all across the East Coast, and I thank them 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:09.800 for their patients. We are joined back again here by 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:15.200 Jason Miller, the former spokesman for the Trump Transition Team 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.840 and senior communications of Issa for the Trump twenty sixteen campaign. Jason, 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:23.760 thanks for holding over before the break. You were talking 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:27.760 about the targeting that's going on by the Trump twenty 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:31.640 twenty campaign. You're also talking about why Joe Biden may 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.320 well be the best candidate for Donald Trump to go 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.680 up against. If you wouldn't mind just finishing that thought 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.640 off for me, and then maybe remarking a little bit 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.000 upon what Brad Pascal said this weekend when he said 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:50.560 the campaign hopes to have one point six million volunteers 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.400 compared to the seven hundred thousand across the country that 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:58.000 they had in twenty sixteen. Jason actullent well in, thanks 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.440 again for having me. Honraheim Z. The reason why Joe 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.760 Biden will be the perfect opponent for Donald Trump is 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.840 because Donald Trump will be able to point at Joe 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.760 Biden and say, Joe, you have been part of the 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.440 problem in Washington for fifty years. The exact number is 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.760 forty seven, but fifty years. And it's because of career 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.840 politicians like you. Why we're in this mess. We've gotten 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.240 to this problem with illegal immigration, why we've gotten this 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.160 problem on terrible trade deals, while we're at this point 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:31.119 with ridiculous taxation and spending. If Trump is the change 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.560 agent in the twenty sixteen election, even though he's the incumbent, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.040 and he's able to make Joe Biden essentially the incumbent 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.440 or the status quo, the old way of doing things, 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.920 Donald Trump is going to win the race in twenty twenty. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.160 It gets a bit tougher when you have someone who's 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.520 a blank slate, someone who doesn't have the big record. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.439 But you literally look at the rally that Joe Biden 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.840 had just this afternoon in Pittsburgh. It's maybe fifty people 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.399 behind him. Whence the last time that Donald Trump had 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.560 an event that didn't have ten thousand people with him. 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.480 There's no energy, known enthusia hasn't for Biden. Many of 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.840 the same problems that Hillary had in twenty sixteen, Biden 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.320 will having twenty twenty. Trump allies who are thinking that 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:17.520 Joe Biden's the toughest opponent for Trump in the general election. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.520 Are looking at it through the wrong lens. That's the 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.879 old way of thinking. This is about change versus the 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.159 status quo. Raheem. The other point that you brought up 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:29.879 about parscial meeting on the volunteers, look, Brad's obviously crunched 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.720 numbers and looked at a lot of these things. But 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.040 ultimately this is going to come down to is President 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:39.880 Trump and him continuing out there and push his work 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.560 on the immigration issue. We have to do something about 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.359 this crisis at the southern border. We've started on the 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.240 wall construction, but we've got to get a lot more 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.479 done between now and next year. And if President Trump 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:55.480 is ultimately making good on these campaign promises and continuing 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:59.399 to keep his base and also independent voters fired up 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.520 and all his side, and he's going to be in 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.920 great shape. But whether it's the one point six million 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.199 volunteers this go around, also, you know whether it's one 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.439 point six or one point four or one point two, 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.080 the most important thing is you have a lot of 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:17.240 people who don't necessarily get out there in walk neighborhoods 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.200 or who make fant your phone calls. That's great to have, 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:24.720 but let's not forget that Donald Trump won much of 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:28.320 the twenty sixteen race with his Twitter account and by 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:30.040 the fact that he would get up there everyone in 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.080 the debates. And I think that's this skill comes down 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.280 to the most important part of a Trump campaign is 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:41.760 Donald Trump. We're talking to Jason Miller, the former communications 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:47.200 advisor for the Trump twenty sixteen campaign and the spokesman 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:53.479 for the Trump transition team all those years ago. Now, Jason, Jason, 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.479 tell me when you look at these pictures that are 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.440 coming out of Pittsburgh today, this Joe Biden rally. I 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.600 don't know if you have, but I certainly have. I've 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.320 been looking on Twitter for actual pictures of the room 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.000 because they're so tight. The cameras are so tight on 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.520 creepy Joe there that it looks like he could be 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.760 giving a speech to a major venue. It could be 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.160 in a stadium. It sort of looks like a Trump 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.440 rally because they're so tight. It looks like he might have, 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.920 you know, three thousand people behind him in fifteen thousand 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.280 in front of him, and ten thousand to each side. 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.520 But actually, if you zoom out, ladies and gentlemen, if 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:32.000 you go on Twitter and look at these pictures, and indeed, 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:34.879 Jason and I will both tweet the pictures out so 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.960 you can see them. Jason, what's your Twitter account at 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:42.280 Jason Miller in DC. There you go, and we'll show 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.040 you what's going on here, because they've pulled the cameras 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.439 so tight. And this is one of the art forms 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:51.280 that campaigns use to pretend that they've got bigger support 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:54.480 than they have. There's probably about one hundred and fifty 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.119 people max in that room, and I would say probably 0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:01.160 about fifty of them in the media and a push 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.440 and a real push if there's something I can't see 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.560 off to the sidelines. There's only two hundred people in 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.200 that room. That room can only fit about two other 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.720 people in there, but a ton of them. A quarter 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:12.240 of that room is probably media. He's giving a speech 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.960 like he's giving a massive campaign valley. When you see 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:18.240 what happened to Beato this weekend, Jason, and you see 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.600 what's happening to Biden here not able to draw those crowds. 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:26.000 What does it portend for twenty twenty for the Democrats. Well, 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:27.760 this just goes to the point about Biden in the 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.240 lack of enthusiasm and even better, and look, maybe with 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:33.880 better people got creeped out by the hands and they 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:35.679 just think he's too goofy now that they've seen him 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:41.160 once already. But you look at Biden's kick off, and 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.320