1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. It is a Monday, 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: the twenty ninth of April two thousand and nineteen. My 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: name is Raheem Kasam. I'm the global editor in chief 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: of human Events dot com. Some of you will remember 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Human Events from being Ronald Reagan's President, Reagan's favorite magazine, 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: where we're bringing that website back to life this week 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: after a long time on the sidelines. We'll be talking 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: to you a little bit about that more later on 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: in the show, but I wanted to start off by 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: talking about something that I found particularly egregious over the 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: past couple of days. And it's really it's ugly head 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: once again. And I feel like a lot of people 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: aren't paying enough attention to this, but the Democrat Party 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: in the United States at the moment, alongside the left 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: leaning media, I think, is becoming increasingly and overtly anti Semitic. 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: The level of jew hate tread out there on the 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: political left, ladies and gentlemen is not just becoming commonplace 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: now but actually rather routine and expected of left wing 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: politicians and left wing news outlets. There was a cartoon 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: you'll remember in the New York Times, in the international 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: version of the New York Times this weekend. At least, 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I hope you remember. Everybody should have seen this. Everybody 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: should have been paying attention to this this weekend. It 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: was an absolutely ghastly cartoon that depicted a blind President 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Trump with a yamaker on a kippah, being led with 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: a with a taut leash by his German dashon seeing 27 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: eye dog that resembled Benjamin Nett and Yahoo, the Israeli 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Prime Minister, and in the cartoon, Benjamin Nett and Yahoo 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: had a star of David on his dog collar. Now, 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: if you're trying to make an assertion that the Israeli 31 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Prime minister is leading the US president, you could do 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: it without or that's Jewish symbolism. You could do it 33 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: without the German dog. You could do it without the 34 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: kipper on Donald Trump's head. But no, they chose, The 35 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: New York Times chose intentionally to lead with with Jewish 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: symbolism that would be would be probably well placed in 37 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: the Nazi era newspaper Dishturma. Right, That's that's where that 38 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: sort of offensive symbology historically can be seen. And you 39 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: see it often as well still, and I think a 40 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of people have to pay very close attention to 41 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: this as well. You see it on the sort of 42 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: neo Nazi side of the of the political debate in 43 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: both the United States and indeed in Europe. And you'll 44 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: notice I don't say the extreme right or the far right, 45 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: because I don't believe that Nazis have anything to do 46 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: with the political right. I don't. I think perhaps they 47 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: seek to latch on to us, onto people like me 48 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: who are right wing, but but they have nothing to 49 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: do with us, almost nothing in common. They tend to 50 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: be very socialistic in their economic policies, very totalitarian, and 51 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: a very unlibertarian in their in their social policies. It 52 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: disturbs me deeply because not only did the New York 53 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: Times lead with this cartoon this weekend, they've done it 54 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: again today. There is another cartoon in the New York 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Times International today depicting a selfie stick wielding Benjamin Nett 56 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: in Yahoo with a tablet in his hand as if 57 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: he's coming down from Mount Sinai with a star of 58 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: David on it. Again, and these things are often not contextualized. 59 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: The one that you saw this weekend actually showed something 60 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: that was not related to the article that was underneath 61 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: the cartoon. It was just an offensive cartoon for the 62 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: sake of having an offensive cartoon. It was just due 63 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: hatred for the sake of due hatred. And why am 64 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: I talking about this? Why does a cartoon in the 65 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: New York Times matter on a Monday evening when so 66 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: much else is going on a new cycle? Because I 67 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, the accusations of bigotry 68 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: and racism and xenophobia and all those sorts of things 69 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: have been levied at the political right for so long, 70 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: and I have said for so long, and those of 71 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: you who have listened to me before on this show, 72 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: who've seen my writing before, and who've listened to Buck 73 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: on this show before, you know you will know that 74 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: we don't just outright reject those things. We have said 75 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: time and time again. The left is projecting. It's projecting 76 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: its own disturbing identity politics. It's projecting its own disturbing 77 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: hatred for significant groups in the United States and indeed 78 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: all across Europe and the wider world as well. They 79 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: project what they think onto us and shout bigger, bigger, biggot. 80 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: They are the biggots. Ladies and gentlemen. They've proved it, 81 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: not just once. This weekend. When The New York Times 82 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: didn't apologize, they said, they said they what was it? Regret? 83 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: We expressed regret. It was so sorry. They said it 84 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: found its way in somehow it didn't meet our editorial standards. 85 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Don't know how it happened, won't happen again. It happened 86 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: again today, happened again two days later. What I'm saying 87 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: to you is this level of political discourse is now 88 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: institutionalized on the political left. And you'll probably notice I 89 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: don't speak with an American accent. I'm from the United Kingdom, 90 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: and in the United Kingdom, the leader of the Opposition 91 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: Party is a chap called Jeremy Corbyn. Now, Jeremy Corbyn 92 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: is an old school Marxist. I mean he is of 93 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: the hard left. He makes Bernie Sanders look like Ron Paul. 94 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: He makes Bernie Sanders looked like a right wing libertarian. 95 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Jeremy Corbyn has been known to march alongside Hezbollah supporters 96 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: in Trafalgar Square and in Parliament Square on the annual 97 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: Al Kood's Day march. Jeremy Corbyn invited to tea in 98 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: the House of Commons, members of the Irish Republican Army, 99 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: the terrorist faction the IRA, just a few weeks after 100 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: they tried to bomb the British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher 101 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: and half of the cabinet at the Conservative Party conference 102 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: back in the eighties. Jeremy Corbyn has had lunch with 103 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: leaders of Hamas. Jeremy Corbyn has spun for Iranian state 104 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: Television Press TV, and that level of Marxism that has 105 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: at its core, at its core anti Semitism as a 106 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: part and parcel of it, has now found its way 107 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: over to the United States. And I've been warning about 108 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: this for years. We've seen it happen to our politics 109 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom, the left pulling further and further 110 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: to left, and they get away with it because media 111 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: outlets not only do not hold them to account, but 112 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: they give them succor and support. Who remember when elan Omar, 113 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: this new congresswoman, was accused of antisemitism, rightfully so, just 114 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, almost all of the Democrat 115 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: establishment and everyone in the mainstream media rode to her 116 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: aid they said, no, she's not antisemitic. You're just saying 117 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: that because she's a Muslim, or she's a Somali woman, 118 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: or she's an immigrant, or she's brown. You know, they 119 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: hurled every single thing they could possibly hurl in her 120 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: defense at the people. And they weren't just right wingers, 121 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: by the way. There were still some people on her 122 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: side saying how unacceptable this was. There were still some 123 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: people in the middle saying how unaccept all this was. 124 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: But they hurled at all of us who were objecting 125 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: to her behavior, to Linda Sarsau's behavior, to Lewis Farakhan's behavior, 126 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: to the new political left in the United States behavior. 127 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: They hurled all these things in their defense. And I 128 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: have to tell you, I think that creates an incredibly 129 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: disturbing line of demarcation now, and it's something that we 130 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: have to pay very close attention to because it has 131 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: real world implications. If the political right is supposed to 132 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: own Richard Spencer, if the political right is supposed to 133 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: own Jason Kessler, who is an Obama supporter, by the way, 134 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: who put together that Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, 135 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: if we have that cross to bear, then the left 136 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: should at least be expected to take action against extremism 137 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: political extremism within their own ranks, and at this point 138 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: in time, ladies and gentlemen, they don't they aren't expected 139 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: to do that. And that is something that I think 140 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: as we are led into the twenty twenty election cycle, 141 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: will become even more prevalent. Remember the Democrat National Convention 142 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: the last time over. On the first day of the 143 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: Democrat National Convention, and by the way, the media matters 144 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: of the world will say, no, no, this is fake news. 145 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: What rahem is about to say, it's not fake news. 146 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: Go and look at it yourself. On the first day 147 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: of the convention, there were more Palestinian flags in that 148 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: convention hall for the DNC than there were American flags. 149 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: Identity politics has gone way to the extreme. The placation 150 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: of the jew hatred that stems from many Middle Eastern 151 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: countries and many North African countries that finds its roots 152 00:09:53,600 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: in radical or Orthodox Islam is now a mainstay the 153 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: Democratic Party of America. And again it has real world implications. 154 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: The people who are shooting up synagogues out there, the 155 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: people who are burning churches out there, the people who 156 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: are assailing simply because they disagree with somebody's religious perspective. 157 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: They are encouraged by hearing these things from your representatives, 158 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: and they are encouraged by seeing them in your press. 159 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my i suppose opening 160 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: statement for the day. We have a great show for you, 161 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: packed full of great guests. We're going to go really 162 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: around the world today. We're going to talk a little 163 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: bit about what's going on in my home country, the 164 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: United Kingdom. As I'm sure some of you are aware, 165 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: we voted to leave a little thing called the European 166 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: Union a couple of years ago, and it still hasn't happened. 167 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: We've got one of the candidates who are standing for 168 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: an all new part he called the Brexit Party. His 169 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: name is Martin Daubeney. He will be joining us on 170 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: the show. We've got Jason Miller, the former communications director 171 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: for the Trump twenty twenty campaign, will be joining us. 172 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Jack Persobic of One American News, Terry Schilling the American 173 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: Principles Project, and my business partner, Will Chamberlain, who is 174 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,239 Speaker 1: a great a great lawyer and a great political commentator. 175 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: Some of you may have seen his periscopes and lady 176 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: does on Twitter. He'll be joining us as well, along 177 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: with President Ryan Williams of the Claremont Foundation also, so 178 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: stay tuned. You're not going to want to miss this show. 179 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm 180 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back. Okay, welcome back to 181 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show. My name is Raheem Casalm, the 182 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: global editor in chief of Human Events dot Com. I'm 183 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: very pleased to be joined now by Jason Miller, the 184 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: former senior communications adviser to the Trump campaign and the 185 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: chief spokesman for the Trump's transition team. Jason, thanks for 186 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: joining us. Raheem, thank you so much for having me on. 187 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: I was going to say Buck sounds a little bit 188 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: different today, but I'm kind of digging into action. I 189 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: can only imagine what Buck Sexton doing an impersonation of 190 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Raheem Gassam would sound like. I'm sure very offensive to everyone. Jason. 191 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. The Trump twenty twenty campaign 192 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: manager Brad Pascal was on the televisions this weekend talking 193 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: about the bigger and better campaign that he foresees for 194 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: next year. Obviously a lot of people are thinking, wow, 195 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: with this Democrat lineup of candidates, it's going to be 196 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: a walk in the park for President Trump, but Brad 197 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to think so. Brad seems to think, you know, 198 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: they've got to throw everything in the kitchen sink and 199 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: even more at this I wonder if you agree with that, 200 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: and also what you think of his strategy that he 201 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: outlined talking about other sort of states that haven't traditionally 202 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: been in play coming into coming into being battleground states 203 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: next year. So great question. Having been part of President 204 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: Trump's historic twenty sixteen campaign, knowing Brad Parsco and the 205 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Trump team very well, I think what Brad's doing is 206 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: smart for a couple of reasons. Number one, he's being 207 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: realistic that this is the country is still very divided 208 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: on the partisan basis. And even though President Trump has 209 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: taxes and reduced regulations and fought for better trade deals 210 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: and we're seeing wage growth greater than inflation for the 211 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: first time in a heck of a long time, the 212 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is is the media is going 213 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: to attack President Trump every single day from now all 214 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: the way up through twenty twenty. So what Brad is 215 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: doing is he's organizing and professionalizing a top shelf campaign 216 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: that's ready to go to battle regardless of whoever the 217 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Democratic nominee is. There's another important things I think Brad's doing, 218 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: which is recognizing that partisan and demographic shifts in certain 219 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: states are changing the outlook and the prospects for twenty twenty. 220 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: So where you take a look at, say, for example, 221 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota in Wisconsin and even Michigan I think will even 222 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: be in better position for President Trump as we go 223 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: into and actually I'd say also Ohio in Florida. I 224 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: think all of those states will be in better position 225 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: for President Trump than they were in twenty sixteen. You 226 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: look at certain states such as Arizona, Texas, North Carolina 227 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: that I think will be a bit tougher going into 228 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty just because of the way folks are moving around. 229 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: And I think it's important that Brad lights that fire 230 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: now and so nobody's asleep at the switch. Yeah, I 231 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: mean in your estimation. Two questions that follow on from 232 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: that in my mind, Number one, what do you make 233 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: of the fundraising capabilities now? Because again I think there 234 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: is a level of complacency out there given the field. 235 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what have we got, We've got, We've got 236 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: Pete Butter joke or whatever his name is. We've got 237 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, We've got Kamala Harris. I mean, Beto is 238 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: just disappeared by the way. Anybody's seen Beto recently or 239 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: I think he had a rally of about twelve people 240 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: the other day or something like that. So there may 241 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: be a level of complacency out there, especially as regards fundraising, 242 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: I think, and I'm concerned a little bit about that. 243 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: And the other question I guess is what do you 244 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: see the campaign issues being. What do you see Brad 245 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: focusing on in terms of policy as we go into 246 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: next year? Another good question here, So with regard to 247 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: the complacency, I completely agree with you on this. Now, 248 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: the good news is is that President Trump is still 249 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: turning out huge crowds and people still show up, and 250 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: I think his base will be energized. But I think 251 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: for so many Trump voters there, I think this is 252 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: part of the reason why we got hit so bad 253 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. They feel really good about where things are. 254 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: We're historic lows for unemployment rate, so we're seeing the 255 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: fact that China is actually making moves to come at 256 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: us with a better trade deal. There's a whole long 257 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: way to that actually getting done and being enforced in 258 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: being concrete in finalized here. But the fact of the 259 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: matter is that Trump is winning on so many different 260 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: fronts continue Supreme Court justices that I feel a lot 261 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: of our voters won't just to be honest with I 262 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: think I've gotten really lazy and they think that everything's fine. 263 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: And of course everyone around the country is going to 264 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: recognize the great work that Trump's doing, and so I 265 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: get where I worry about that. I think you're completely 266 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: right there, and that's part of the reason why I 267 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: think it's smart that Parscale is lighting the fire and 268 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: some of these traditional Republican states to get people thinking, 269 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: to get them more, to get them start actually motivated. 270 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: So that's that's smart of him to do. On the 271 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: here is where when we talked about the twenty twenty field, 272 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: and obviously there's news today with Joe Biden doing his 273 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: I guess they call it a rally, but it does 274 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: look like there are many people there in Pittsburgh. I'm 275 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: a bit of a contrarian when it comes to Trump allies. 276 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: I actually think Joe Biden is literally the single best 277 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: nominee that Donald Trump could go up against in the 278 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: general election the best chances of winning. Now, I know 279 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: that might sound a little bit crazy, but hear me 280 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: out for a moment. I think the traditional Washington mindset 281 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: is to look at things in kind of a linear 282 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: ideological construct. Who's the moderate, who's the conservative, who's the liberal? 283 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: Where people? And also in the pure geographic terms. Joe 284 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: Biden was born in Pennsylvania and then spent most of 285 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: his adult life in Delaware and Washington, DC, so he 286 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: might have advantages in different places. I don't look at 287 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: it that at all. I think that what's more important 288 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: here is Jason. Jason, sorry to interrupt you. We're up 289 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: against the break him, but can we can we hold 290 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: you for another quick segments five or ten minutes and 291 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: we'll come back. Okay, we'll be right back. This is 292 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. We're gonna be back with Jason 293 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: Miller in just a moment. Welcome back to the Buck 294 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. This is Raheem Kasam guest hosting for Buck Sexton. 295 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: And usually when I'm in Bucks Studio, I say I'm 296 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm occupying the Freedom Hut, but I'm not in the 297 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Freedom Hut today. I'm down here in West Palm Beach, Florida, 298 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: causing all sorts of nightmares. Are brilliant producers and engineers 299 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: now all across the East Coast, and I thank them 300 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: for their patients. We are joined back again here by 301 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: Jason Miller, the former spokesman for the Trump Transition Team 302 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: and senior communications of Issa for the Trump twenty sixteen campaign. Jason, 303 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: thanks for holding over before the break. You were talking 304 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: about the targeting that's going on by the Trump twenty 305 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: twenty campaign. You're also talking about why Joe Biden may 306 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: well be the best candidate for Donald Trump to go 307 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: up against. If you wouldn't mind just finishing that thought 308 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: off for me, and then maybe remarking a little bit 309 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: upon what Brad Pascal said this weekend when he said 310 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: the campaign hopes to have one point six million volunteers 311 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: compared to the seven hundred thousand across the country that 312 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: they had in twenty sixteen. Jason actullent well in, thanks 313 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: again for having me. Honraheim Z. The reason why Joe 314 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: Biden will be the perfect opponent for Donald Trump is 315 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: because Donald Trump will be able to point at Joe 316 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Biden and say, Joe, you have been part of the 317 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: problem in Washington for fifty years. The exact number is 318 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: forty seven, but fifty years. And it's because of career 319 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: politicians like you. Why we're in this mess. We've gotten 320 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: to this problem with illegal immigration, why we've gotten this 321 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: problem on terrible trade deals, while we're at this point 322 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: with ridiculous taxation and spending. If Trump is the change 323 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: agent in the twenty sixteen election, even though he's the incumbent, 324 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: and he's able to make Joe Biden essentially the incumbent 325 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: or the status quo, the old way of doing things, 326 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is going to win the race in twenty twenty. 327 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: It gets a bit tougher when you have someone who's 328 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: a blank slate, someone who doesn't have the big record. 329 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: But you literally look at the rally that Joe Biden 330 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: had just this afternoon in Pittsburgh. It's maybe fifty people 331 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: behind him. Whence the last time that Donald Trump had 332 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: an event that didn't have ten thousand people with him. 333 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: There's no energy, known enthusia hasn't for Biden. Many of 334 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: the same problems that Hillary had in twenty sixteen, Biden 335 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: will having twenty twenty. Trump allies who are thinking that 336 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's the toughest opponent for Trump in the general election. 337 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Are looking at it through the wrong lens. That's the 338 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: old way of thinking. This is about change versus the 339 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: status quo. Raheem. The other point that you brought up 340 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: about parscial meeting on the volunteers, look, Brad's obviously crunched 341 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: numbers and looked at a lot of these things. But 342 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: ultimately this is going to come down to is President 343 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: Trump and him continuing out there and push his work 344 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: on the immigration issue. We have to do something about 345 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: this crisis at the southern border. We've started on the 346 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: wall construction, but we've got to get a lot more 347 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: done between now and next year. And if President Trump 348 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: is ultimately making good on these campaign promises and continuing 349 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: to keep his base and also independent voters fired up 350 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: and all his side, and he's going to be in 351 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: great shape. But whether it's the one point six million 352 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: volunteers this go around, also, you know whether it's one 353 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: point six or one point four or one point two, 354 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: the most important thing is you have a lot of 355 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: people who don't necessarily get out there in walk neighborhoods 356 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: or who make fant your phone calls. That's great to have, 357 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: but let's not forget that Donald Trump won much of 358 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen race with his Twitter account and by 359 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: the fact that he would get up there everyone in 360 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: the debates. And I think that's this skill comes down 361 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: to the most important part of a Trump campaign is 362 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. We're talking to Jason Miller, the former communications 363 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: advisor for the Trump twenty sixteen campaign and the spokesman 364 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: for the Trump transition team all those years ago. Now, Jason, Jason, 365 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: tell me when you look at these pictures that are 366 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: coming out of Pittsburgh today, this Joe Biden rally. I 367 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know if you have, but I certainly have. I've 368 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: been looking on Twitter for actual pictures of the room 369 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: because they're so tight. The cameras are so tight on 370 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: creepy Joe there that it looks like he could be 371 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: giving a speech to a major venue. It could be 372 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: in a stadium. It sort of looks like a Trump 373 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: rally because they're so tight. It looks like he might have, 374 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, three thousand people behind him in fifteen thousand 375 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: in front of him, and ten thousand to each side. 376 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: But actually, if you zoom out, ladies and gentlemen, if 377 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: you go on Twitter and look at these pictures, and indeed, 378 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: Jason and I will both tweet the pictures out so 379 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: you can see them. Jason, what's your Twitter account at 380 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: Jason Miller in DC. There you go, and we'll show 381 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: you what's going on here, because they've pulled the cameras 382 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: so tight. And this is one of the art forms 383 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: that campaigns use to pretend that they've got bigger support 384 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: than they have. There's probably about one hundred and fifty 385 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: people max in that room, and I would say probably 386 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: about fifty of them in the media and a push 387 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: and a real push if there's something I can't see 388 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: off to the sidelines. There's only two hundred people in 389 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: that room. That room can only fit about two other 390 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: people in there, but a ton of them. A quarter 391 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: of that room is probably media. He's giving a speech 392 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: like he's giving a massive campaign valley. When you see 393 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: what happened to Beato this weekend, Jason, and you see 394 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: what's happening to Biden here not able to draw those crowds. 395 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: What does it portend for twenty twenty for the Democrats. Well, 396 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: this just goes to the point about Biden in the 397 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: lack of enthusiasm and even better, and look, maybe with 398 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: better people got creeped out by the hands and they 399 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: just think he's too goofy now that they've seen him 400 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: once already. But you look at Biden's kick off, and 401 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: they just actually did a slight um if you see 402 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: in there, they did do like one or two pant 403 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: outshots during the during the Biden rally, and you could 404 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: see that there's only about maybe thirty or forty people 405 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: behind him. This just shows that there's no enthusiasm and 406 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: no intensity for these Democratic candidate. I think that's absolutely right. 407 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Jason Miller, just final thoughts for us before we before 408 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: we let you go, and you're very kind for giving 409 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: us your time today. Tell me just to pivot a 410 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: little bit here. I started the show by talking about 411 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: the the I think what's devastatingly creepy anti semitism that 412 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: you're finding in the New York Times and the political 413 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: left in general right now. Where do you think that's 414 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: coming from and what do you think it says about 415 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: the way that the political left in general is going well. 416 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: I first would want to commend your efforts Raheem to 417 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: call out much of this anti Semitic rhetoric that we've 418 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: seen from the political left and from unfortunately now creeping 419 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: into the news media. I mean, there was a I 420 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: want to read a tweet from Andrew gillom who lost 421 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: the race for governor in Florida, and this was from 422 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: earlier today. Donald Trump Junior had tweeted something and he 423 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: was from a sizing the media on something. And Andrew 424 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: Gillham replied, Junior, seeking approval from Daddy with hate and 425 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: lies after a white nationalist shooting is very on brand. 426 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: Be your own man, Junior. And I was so disgusted 427 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: and a repulse by that someone on the professional left 428 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: would do this. I replied back to him and basically said, 429 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: it was disgusting that he played blame game politics with 430 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: a horrific tragedy like the shooting that we just saw. 431 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: But this is where the political left, as you look 432 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: at Alan Omar with her consistent anti Semitic rhetoric that 433 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: I think it just goes is just absolutely disgusting. But 434 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: the fact that we saw this New York Times cartoon, 435 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: probably the most blatant anti semitic cartoon that I have 436 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: seen in a publication in my professional life. I mean, 437 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: this just goes to show how how out of touch 438 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: with reality many in the media and the professional Democratic 439 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: left is right now. It's just it's completely bonkers. And 440 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: I hope that Jewish voters in the US are starting 441 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: to catch on this and a lot more of them 442 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: come on to President Trump's side going into twenty twenty, 443 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: especially for all the work he's done for Jewish Americans 444 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: and for the state of Israel. But I'm just disgusted 445 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: by what I'm seeing in the media right now. Yeah, 446 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: me too. Jason Miller, once again, thank you so much 447 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: for joining us, give it, give yourself a plug once again. 448 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: Where can people will find you? Read? You? Follow your 449 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: social media absolutely so. The Twitter handle is at Jason 450 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: Miller in DC, and I always have some interesting commentary 451 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: that is out there, So I love thanks, tune in 452 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: to pay attention and raheem actual work filling in for 453 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: Buck today. Thanks so much once again, Jason Miller. There, 454 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, And I think the prevailing consensus really 455 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: is the Democrat Party is moving in a very very 456 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: well I often say dangerous, but I think it's dark 457 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: and dangerous as well, because some of the things that 458 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: you hear coming out. I mean, like Andrew gillam Is, 459 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: as Jason Miller said just a moment ago, Heckeling, the 460 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: President's son, who has been fantastic in calling out anti semitism, 461 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: tech censorship, been touring the country, you know, really making 462 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: people feel like they are once again and should be 463 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: a governing part of the nation. That's what, in my estimation, 464 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign did, and that's how I think the 465 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: Trump administration has governed. So you know, when you look 466 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: at what I now call the corbinization again, remember Jeremy 467 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Corbyn being the leader of the Labor Party in the UK, 468 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: the corbinization of the Democratic Party of America, I just 469 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: wondered to myself, especially when you look at Jewish groups 470 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: in this country. And I speak again from having seen 471 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: it happen in the UK, where so many people in 472 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: the British jury took a step back from supporting the 473 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: Labor Party and actually started to routinely and rightly criticize 474 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: Jeremy Corbyn and the Labor Party for the things that 475 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: it was doing and the people that it was placing 476 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: in positions of power. I think that's going to happen 477 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: here in the US, as well, and I just can't 478 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: see why any practicing Jewish person who has voted Democrat 479 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: all their lives would want to walk into that polling 480 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: station next year and put a mark by the box 481 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: of the party that is promoting people like Eli and Omar. 482 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe maybe you know you're out there 483 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: and you're a Jewish person and you feel like I'm 484 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: saying something incorrect. Why don't you tweet at me? At 485 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Raheem Kasam, it's r H E E M K A 486 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: S s am. I'm always willing to have the political 487 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: debates and discussions. That's what this country is. That's what 488 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: one of these things, one of the things this country 489 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: is so great for, not like back home, let's say 490 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: in the UK now, where political discourse is significantly throttled, 491 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: where the hammer of the hate speech, what is it, 492 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: the hate speech monitors comes crashing down routinely. This is 493 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton show. I'm Raheem Kassam, don't go anywhere. 494 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: We're going to be right back. This is an epidemic, 495 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: and we have a president who will not only will 496 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: not acknowledge that we have an epidemic of white nationalists 497 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: terror after New Zealand for just a few people. He's 498 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: providing the mood music for it. That is the reality 499 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: we face. Yeah, I think the President needs to at 500 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: some point look in the mirror and you understand that 501 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: the rhetoric, the words he uses in all of this inflame. 502 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: This about big part of what's going on in America. 503 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: Give permission to the most craziest people in America. And 504 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: it happens in part because there is a climate set 505 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: at the top of unbelievable constant lise and hostility and 506 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: division in this country. The conspiracy theory is cited by 507 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: these neo Nazis in Pittsburgh and New Zealand and now 508 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: outside San Diego. Conspiracy theory Trump never condemned and actually 509 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: seemed to support. And we don't know if it has 510 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: any connection to the politics that's going on, but I mean, 511 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: it would be a stretch to say that it doesn't. 512 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: And remember Donald Trump just over the last two couple 513 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: of days have been defending what he said in Charlottesville, 514 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: and it echoed called back into our memory, right, something 515 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: that just happened not too long ago, what happened in Pittsburgh, 516 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and all of this hate right as part 517 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: of the environment of the day, and he bears some 518 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: responsibility for the Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. 519 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm Raheem Kassam broadcasting live out of West Palm Beach today. 520 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: No less, you heard that, right, ladies and gentlemen. You 521 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: heard the media clamoring to blame President Trump for the 522 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: rise in anti Semitism that you're seeing across the country, 523 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: for the rise in political extremism that you're seeing across 524 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: the country. Well, I was raised let me tell you 525 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: something in a Muslim fam so I have no problem 526 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: saying this whatsoever when it comes to things like that, 527 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: when you especially when you look over at Europe, which 528 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: is a harbinger. But what is to come in the 529 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: United States if you are not careful and cautious and 530 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: you don't turf these bums out who are behind this stuff. 531 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, A lot of the newfound 532 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: anti Semitism that you're seeing in Europe now is not 533 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: coming from neo Nazis and white supremacists. There is that 534 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: it does exist, but a lot of it is coming 535 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: from Europe's new Muslim communities who, especially those who have 536 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: particularly fundamentalist outlooks, especially those who have particularly fundamentalist overviews 537 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: of the Middle East and the Middle East peace process 538 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: and the Israeli Palestinian issue a lot of it, and 539 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: go away and look at it for yourselves. Don't trust me, 540 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: or trust me, but verify me. Okay, go and look 541 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: at it. You're looking at people on mass of Jewish 542 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: extraction moving out of France, people that I read a 543 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: story the other day in Germany Jewish community leaders saying 544 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: there's no future for Judaism in Germany and they're moving out, 545 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: and they're moving to safer places, safer places like the 546 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: United States, or safer places like Israel, because they simply 547 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: don't trust that the migrant explosion that Europe has faced 548 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, especially but over the 549 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: last decade, but really since twenty fifteen, when Chancellor Angelo Merkel, 550 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: remember when the migrant crisis was raging, said come one, 551 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: come all, we can take everybody. They're now seeing a rise, 552 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: distinct rise in anti Semitism. They are now seeing more 553 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: and more synagogues being attacked. We're seeing more and more 554 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: churches being attacked and burned, attacks on priests, attacks on 555 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: Christians all across Europe. At the moment, and believe you me, 556 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: that is what the Democrat Party is inviting here. So 557 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: when I hear there's media talking heads waxing lyrical about 558 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: how President Trump is somehow to blame, you know, this 559 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: is probably one of the most Jewish friendly presidents this 560 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: country's ever seen. His family members are Jewish. He recognized 561 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: the Gallan Heights as Israeli territory, and whatever you think 562 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: of that from a geopolitical perspective, I happen to believe 563 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do. But for whatever happens 564 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: from a geopolitical perspective, in your mind, you have to 565 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 1: admit that that the moving of the embassy from Tel 566 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: Aviv to Jerusalem, and don't forget that wasn't an outrageous 567 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: thing for him to be offering. That was something that 568 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: every president over the last couple of decades has offered. 569 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: The difference being that President Trump actually did it. And 570 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: the New York Times and the Democrat establishment and their 571 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: anti Semitic foot soldiers, they cannot bear it. That's why 572 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: they attack like this. That's why they hide behind CNN 573 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: and MSNBC and Media Matters and all those other places. 574 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: And I'll say this as well, when David Duke endorsed 575 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: President Trump against President Trump's wishes in twenty sixteen, President 576 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: Trump distanced himself. They'd never heard of the guy, don't 577 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: have anything to do with him. When David Duke comes 578 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: out and endorses elin Omar so she's the most important 579 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: member of Congress, nobody in the media wants to talk 580 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: about it. Nobody in the media wants to discuss why 581 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: that relationship is going on there. This is The Buck 582 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. My name is Rahem Kassam, the global editor 583 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: in chief of Human Events dot Com. We're going to 584 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: be right back with more fantastic guests after this break. 585 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Buck Sexton Show. My name is 586 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam, Broadcasting out of West Palm Beach, guest hosting 587 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: for Buck Sexton today. Mister Sexton on his travels. We 588 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: had a great first hour with Jason Miller and going 589 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty campaign and here in the in 590 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: the United States, I want to take you across to 591 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: another campaign now, one that's taking place in Europe. We've 592 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: got Martin Daubeney on the line. I guess, former journalist 593 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: for the Moment turned a political party candidate for the 594 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: Brexit Party. Martin, thank you for joining us here on 595 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. Huge fan. Oh well, the same 596 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: applies Martin. Seriously. I mean, you've spent a long time 597 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: now in the world of journalism. You've you've you've gone 598 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: all around that political commentary, all of that stuff. But 599 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: something's dragged you in to frontline politics. And I'm curious 600 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: because I think we're seeing more of this on both 601 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: sides of the Atlantic at the moment, either ordinary people 602 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: or people who never had political aspirations who are going 603 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: into this. And you're part of this new Brexit Party 604 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: which has been founded by my old buddy in my 605 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: old boss, Nigel Farage. Tell us a little bit about 606 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: what dragged you in and about the Brexit Party. Well, 607 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: I think it's sad to say that I'm absolutely not 608 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: your usual political candidate. I'm the men's magazine editor. Magazine 609 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: called Loaded. We celebrated heads and their ze and men's interests. 610 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm a journalist of twenty five years. I'm the son 611 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: of a coal miner and a teacher. I'm the first 612 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: boy in my family to adver make its university and 613 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: I've been a political commentator in the UK here in 614 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: now for about eight years, and over that time I've 615 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: seen politics literally unraveled before our eyes. Much the same 616 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: has happened on your side of the pond. Politics became broken. 617 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump of course broke politics your side and our 618 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: side politics was broken by Brexit. We saw seventeen point 619 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: four million people, many of them people like myself, you know, 620 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: ordinary hardworking, working class individuals, put their cross in the box, 621 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: at which point we saw our political class absolutely ignore 622 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: them and do everything they possibly go to derail this 623 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: massive outpouring of democracy. Literally every tool that they've had 624 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: at their disposal they have laid down to defeat this. 625 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: They've down, voted, breaks every time, and three years later, 626 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: we are no nearer to getting break it through. And 627 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: that is why Niel Farage kind of come back from 628 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: the wilderness start this new party. Just four weeks ago, 629 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: this party was started and it's got a huge diverse 630 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 1: array of academics, journalists, fingers, business people, non political class people. 631 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: Many many people in this party have naturally worked in 632 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: politics before, and we've all taken the calling and come 633 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: forward because our politics is broken. Our politicians do not 634 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: want to enact democracy. They are absolutely treating as their 635 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: subjects and not acting as our servants, and I really 636 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: felt that I just had to step up. Well, So 637 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: you speak about this sort of nullification process of Brexit, right, 638 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: You've seen the nullification process of the Donald Trump presidency, 639 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,479 Speaker 1: the Donald Trump election from twenty sixteen in the form 640 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: of the Muller Report and all the delegitimization of his 641 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: presidency that we've seen. We've seen very similar taking place 642 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: with Brexit in the United Kingdom. We've seen Teresa May 643 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: going to Brussels and putting together just a totally crap deal. 644 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: You've had most of Parliament, the majority of Parliament that 645 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: has voted this thing down time and time again. The 646 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: people voted for this, and they didn't just vote for 647 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: this in a majority. They're voted for it, Martin, as 648 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: you said, in a majority in an election, in a referendum. 649 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: There was the largest ever democratic exercise the United Kingdom 650 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: has ever seen. Three years later, the United Kingdom still 651 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: hasn't left. So that means that you are now fighting 652 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: the European parliamentary elections on May the twenty third. Tell 653 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: our American audience off you a little bit about what 654 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: the European parliament is what it does or what it 655 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: doesn't do, and tell us what it means if if 656 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: you get elected, what will you be doing in that 657 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: parliamentary chamber to make sure Brexit happens? Okay, Well, every 658 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: member state of the EU is signed up to its 659 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: same work. It's legislation. The great dividing line of Brexit 660 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: campaign was that most ordinary bricks were getting pretty set 661 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: up of having our laws made in Brussels and not 662 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: out not being self governing, a lack of sovereignty. It 663 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: means that every nation state signs up to common economic plans. 664 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: And also the main thing was open borders, so we 665 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: had an immigration crisis and we didn't have the power 666 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: to do anything about that. All these questions made us asked, well, 667 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: who's really in control? And so the binary choice of 668 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: in all out the European Union happened and seventeen performally 669 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: people voted for it, a big majority of fifty two 670 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: forty eight percent, and ever since then, you know, it's 671 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: been a case of trying to stop it. And of 672 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: course the EU was never going to let the UK 673 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: leave with a decent deal because we all know that 674 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,479 Speaker 1: other nations across the European block are looking to follow suit. 675 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: Will it be the Italians next, you know, the quitterly, 676 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: will it be Frexit the fringe? And so we were 677 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: made an example of a line for that. Our own 678 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: political class voted seventy five to remain. So we can 679 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: see quite straight away that the politicians themselves are voting 680 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: out a step with the people and have done everything 681 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: to stop it. Now, if we get in, is this 682 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: going to be a protest vote or we're going to 683 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: go and cause mayhem or we're going to go and 684 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: try and get involved. I mean, we are unique in 685 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: terms of the postical exercise and as far as we 686 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: will be voting for our own obsolescence, we want to 687 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: join as m EPs a political institution that we want 688 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: to destroy. So it's going to be an interesting journey. 689 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: We are literally Turkey voting for Christmas. But this is 690 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: about more than Brexit. Now, this is not just about 691 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: getting out of the European Union. It's about shining alive 692 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: and a very or found that our political system is broken. 693 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: Democracy has been denied. Seventeen point four million people have 694 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: literally been ignored by our politicians, and I think that 695 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: sends a huge fault line to the very center of 696 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: British politics, and we are seeing the traditional parties being 697 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: decimated at the polls. After just four weeks of US existing, 698 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: we are currently polling six points ahead of Labor and 699 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: a full fifteen points ahead of the in power Conservative Party. 700 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: This is a political revolution, and it's grassroots and it's 701 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: individual donors donating twenty five pounds each. It's a new 702 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: way of sending politics. It's a new way getting involved 703 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: in politics, and I think people want that chain, they 704 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: want this seismic revolution because they're just sick of the 705 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: broken politics that we have. Martin, We've got about two 706 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: minutes left. I'm gonna ask you this, and you don't 707 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: have to slag anyone off there. There's no need to. 708 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: You know. I know there's a animosity between the UK 709 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: Independence Party and the Brexit Party right now, but I 710 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: want people to understand just why Nigel fur I've set 711 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: up this new part because UK was an established vehicle. 712 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: It used to be his party, and people will be 713 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: wondering why is we're heem talking about the Brexit Party. Well, 714 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: the Brexit parties actually, I mean you launched two weeks ago, 715 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: you're already polling at the top in most of the 716 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: polls for the European parliamentary elections. That shows the appetite 717 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: out there. To just tell people a little bit about 718 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: where they can find out more about the Brexit Party, 719 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: what's the web you are, et cetera, et cetera. And 720 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: why the Brexit Party rather than UKIP. Well, there's a 721 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: feeling that UKIT became, shall say, a bit more of 722 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: an extremist party, so it went further to the right. 723 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: It became obsessed with Islam, with with immigration and the 724 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: things that are traditionally kind of thoughted the far right, 725 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: and there was a feeling that we had to do 726 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: something new. Now, this shouldn't be happening, you know, this 727 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: political party shouldn't really exist because Brexit should have been done. 728 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: But there's a feeling when you look at the candidates 729 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: that funding for the Brexit Party. I've been in press 730 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: conference as well. They've been introduced and the press of 731 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: their jaws on the floor because this is a party, 732 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: this sturist, you've been labeled right wing, that has black women, 733 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: black men, gay men, muslim man, you name it. It's 734 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: an incredibly diverse a Marxist they got them a Marxist. Yeah, 735 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: they're the Marxist and she class box. She got on 736 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: the platform in London and said, I've got practically nothing 737 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: in common with Nigel Farage. I myself have never voted 738 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: for Nigel Farage. This is not the disciples of Nigelists, 739 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: an entirely fresh new political movement anywhere it can get 740 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: involved by going to the Brexit Party dot org you 741 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: can have a look at what we're doing. And I 742 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: think this is the beginning of something which will sweep 743 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: across Europe, the rise of smaller, leaner, meaner, fighting spirit 744 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: populist parties which aims to take apart the political establishment 745 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: which isn't getting the job done. They're not listening to 746 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 1: ordinary people and they just ignore everybody, and it feels 747 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: like the great train needs to stop. Well, ladies and 748 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: gentlemen out there, if you want to follow Martin and 749 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: the Brexit Party, make sure you head them over to Twitter. 750 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: You can follow Martin at Martin at Martin Daubney daub 751 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: n E. Why Martin, thank you so much for joining 752 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: us here on the buck Sexton the show plad. Thanks 753 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,959 Speaker 1: your time, and I just want to stress again, ladies 754 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, that This is about what we've all been 755 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: saying for the last couple of years. This is not 756 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: left versus right anymore. In a lot of our politics, 757 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: this is right versus wrong. And that's why you're seeing 758 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: so many different people from so many different traditions, from 759 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: so many different class backgrounds, from so many different parts 760 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: of the country, and so many different business backgrounds. And 761 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: like Martin said, you've got a Marxist in the Brexit Party, 762 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: you also have business people, you have right wingers, you 763 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: have moderates, you have people who've never been involved in 764 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: politics at all before, all coming together and telling the 765 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: political establishment, enough is enough. We are going to replace you. 766 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: We are going to upset the apple cart. We are 767 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 1: going to do something that's ever been done in history before. 768 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: And that's why, as you can probably hear from the 769 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: sound of my voice, I'm very excited about it. This 770 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 1: is the buck Sexton Show. My name is Raheim Gassam. 771 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: We're going to be right back after this break. Welcome 772 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: back to the buck Sexton Show. My name is Rahem Gassalm. 773 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm the editor in chief Global editor in Chief. I 774 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: made that my own title, by the way, just to 775 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: upset the globalists. Out there of Human Events dot Com, 776 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: the website that was Reagan's favorite political magazine when it 777 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: was in print during his years in the Oval Office. 778 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: We're bringing it back to life this Wednesday. If you're 779 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: head on over to human Events dot Com you can 780 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: find out more. And in fact, we've got some offers 781 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: on there for people who join us from the outset 782 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: before we actually launch. So you know, once again and 783 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: Buck told me I can do this, by the way 784 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: human events dot Com. I'm joined now by a competitor 785 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: or Human Events by the way Daily Caller writer, a 786 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: friend of mine, Mary Margaret Olahan. Mary Margaret, thanks for 787 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,959 Speaker 1: joining us on the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for having 788 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: me or him. I wanted to discuss with you because 789 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 1: actually you're one of my favorite writers in the space 790 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: of conservative women's issues. I wanted to discuss with you. 791 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 1: This great article in the New York Times this morning 792 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: called where are the socially conservative women in This Fight? 793 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: And it starts with a story about the great late 794 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 1: Phyllis Schlafley, who actually I think came to Washington, DC 795 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: in the same year that Human Events was founded nineteen 796 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: forty four and started fighting for conservative women and conservative 797 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 1: women's issues. Mary Margaret tell us a little bit about 798 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: this article and why you think it's so important. Well, 799 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: I found this article really interesting. Become a lot. They 800 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: dive into how when Phillis Slafly first started immersing herself 801 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: in the feminist movement, she tried to stay away from 802 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: this system feminist mentality that so many feminists today have adopted, 803 00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: and she instead went for a more equity feminist approach. Um. 804 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: And what I found really interesting about this article is 805 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: they dove into something that Elizabeth Warren actually brought up, 806 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: which is, um, the two what does she call it? 807 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: The two or two inco Yeah? Yeah, And so this 808 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: isn't an idea where once upon a time a family 809 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: could be supported by one income, but now we've fallen 810 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 1: into this two income trap where two incomes apparently isn't 811 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: enough for a middle class family. And we still have 812 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: these people that want to get married and a mother 813 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: that wants to raise her children, but she can't because 814 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: when this little class can't be supported on one income. 815 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: And Elizabeth Warren actually suggested back in two thousand and 816 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: three that this is because of all the women entering 817 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,280 Speaker 1: the workforce, and she probably would never say that now, 818 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: But um, I think that that idea is actually very true. 819 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: And some of the ideas posed in this article where 820 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: why is it what can we do about women in 821 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: the workforce with out telling them, oh, you shouldn't work 822 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: and degrading them in that way, but also upholding the 823 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: dignity of the family. And UM, I thought it was 824 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: really interesting. She drove into how Tucker Carlson at one 825 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: point said that women weren't getting married because men weren't 826 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: making as much money as they were. Um it was 827 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,919 Speaker 1: a funny idea. It was very interesting, and I don't 828 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: totally disagree with him, But at the same time, it 829 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: seems more to me that there's a cultural phenomenon going 830 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: on where men and women don't look at families the 831 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: same way and they don't appreciate marriage in the same way. 832 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: And you can see this in um, very very strongly 833 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: in the way we approach relationships. Um, I mean, if 834 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: you just look at dating apps in syncratic fingertips exactly, 835 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't don't, I don't need to, That's what I meant. 836 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: But then you bring up a really interesting point there, 837 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 1: Mary Margaret. I mean the statistics that are borne out 838 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: here and they are reported in this article today as well. 839 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: They're not new statistics, the statistics we know, but they're 840 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: very stark, and I think we should often remind ourselves 841 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: of them. In nineteen sixty, eighty two percent of Americans 842 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: between twenty five and thirty four were married. Even as 843 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: late as two thousand and fifty five percent were In 844 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, for the first time, a majority of that 845 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: age block had never married. And the downward trend shows 846 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: no sign of stopping. That doesn't seem to me like 847 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: it boats particularly well for local communities or for societies 848 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: when you consider them written nationally. No, it doesn't at all. 849 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: It's actually very terrifying if you think about that downward spiral. 850 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 1: Pretty soon we're not going to be seeing much marriage 851 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: at all. And when I think about that for my 852 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: generation or my younger siblings generations, well, that's pretty depressing. 853 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: And I think if you think about how that can 854 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: be addressed, it's not so much in glowering women's salaries 855 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: or raising men's salaries are leveling that playing field. It's 856 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: been recognizing that men and women are not the same, 857 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: and we have never been the same. And to approach 858 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: this situation as if we are the same as to 859 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: approach it destructively, because we're created to be biologically and 860 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: like mentally compatible and that's how we work the best. Wow, 861 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: what a what a bigoted statement you just made their, 862 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: Mary Margaret how day, how day, you suggest that men 863 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: and women are compatible? What a what a crazy thing? 864 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: So look, I mean, all well and good for us 865 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: to understand where the problems lie. Where does the solutions 866 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: come from. I think the solutions come from families themselves. 867 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a pretty generic thing to say 868 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: that families need to be teaching their children to approach 869 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: marriage and family in less, less materialistic ways, and be 870 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: approaching each other as compatible and complimentary people and not 871 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: as um, you know, someone to be fought with. And 872 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: if we're going to be looking from pered, then we 873 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: should not be fighting and trying to suppress men or 874 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: suppressed women. We should be seeking to compliment each other. 875 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: Mary Margaret Olahan, Um, just tell our audience where they 876 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: can read more of your work, Read your tweets. I 877 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: like to read you in that E is Evie magazine 878 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: as well, Yes, Evie Magazine, Evie Magazine and the Daily 879 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: Colon News Foundations and it's Mary Mark Olohan l h 880 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: a N on Twitter. Is that right? Yes, it is there, 881 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: you go. Well, thank you so much, Mary Margaret for 882 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: joining us here on the buck Sexton Show. Thanks so 883 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: much for having me. And let me tell you, ladies 884 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: and gentlemen at the end of this article in The 885 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: New York Times Today suggest an air to finish Schlafley. 886 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: A socially conservative female voice who can galvanize others could 887 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: help us. She just has to step up. Well, it's 888 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: the likes of Mary Margaret Olahan and her compatriots that 889 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: I've met over the last couple of years in Washington, 890 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: DC and beyond that are doing that very same thing, 891 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,959 Speaker 1: and I think it's a very worthwhile thing to be doing. 892 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: I also want to stay on this subject and talk 893 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: about it with our next guest in just a moment, 894 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: Terry Shilling of the American Principles Project, to get them 895 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: maybe the male perspective on this, and then, of course, 896 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: if time allows, we'll have the other seventy genders represented 897 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: on this show as well. But for now, this is 898 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show. I am Raheemcasum, the global edator 899 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 1: in chief of human Events dot Com. We'll be right back. 900 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. My name is 901 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: Raheim Kassam, the global edator in chief of human Events 902 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: dot com, which is relaunching in just two days time, 903 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: and we hope to have some very very good analysis 904 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,280 Speaker 1: from my next guest, Terry Shilling, is the executive director 905 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: of the American Principles Project and a good friend of 906 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: mine in Washington, DC. Terry, thanks so much for joining 907 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: us on the show here today. Hey, thanks so much 908 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: for having me, Raheim, glad to be here. Well, you 909 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: don't sound that glad. Can you perk up a bit? 910 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 1: Please listen. I'm very excited. I don't know what analysis 911 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: you're talking about, though. I thought we were going to 912 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: discuss and debate whether or not you're daddy, whether or 913 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: not I'm daddy. We all know I'm daddy, Terry, Terry 914 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: for those of you that don't know, and there's no 915 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: reason you should know. It's making a very esoteric joke 916 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 1: about a party that I threw at Sepack earlier this year, 917 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,360 Speaker 1: which was really the Human Events. It wasn't the launch party, 918 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: but it was the announcement that we had purchased Human 919 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: Events from Sailing Communications and we were racking our heads 920 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: thinking of what they allowed us, the venue that we had. 921 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: They allowed us to name a cocktail whatever we wanted 922 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: to name it. And my friend Hailey said to me, well, 923 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: why don't we just call it daddy? And I said, well, 924 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: why are we calling it daddy? Why don't we just 925 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: call it Raheem is daddy? That way you'll have all 926 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: these girls going to the bar and having to say, 927 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: what was it again, Terry, raheem is daddy for us? 928 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: By the way, you did? You did? You had a 929 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 1: lot of reheems in your mouth that night, I'll tell 930 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: you that much, Terry. So much for a wholesome show 931 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: that's got out the window. Um, I trust you to 932 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: bring the tone down, Terry. We were talking about something 933 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 1: relatively wholesome as well. We were talking about this article 934 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: in the New York Times. Where are the socially conservative 935 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: women in this fight? And now I guess I recognize 936 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: where they are. They don't want to be anywhere near us. 937 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a totally great, socially considered woman 938 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: that I've been married too for almost ten years now, Raam, 939 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, speak for yourself. Yeah, what's her name again? 940 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: Your wife, Katie. Katie. That's right, Terry and I just 941 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: like to bust each other's you know what's how is Katie? 942 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: By the way, send send all of our love from 943 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: all of the audience to Katie. Terry. I will, definitely 944 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: I will. But you know what, Katie was actually the 945 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: one that sent me this artcle So I was going 946 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: to say that I should have had Katie or not you. 947 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: She actually is much smarter than I am. You would 948 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: have been better off. Next time we'll do that. She 949 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: can't be that smart. She married you. Boom boom. If 950 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: there was, if there was a way to drop these 951 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: mics in this studio, I would have dropped it right now. 952 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: But unfore the suspended above me. Terry. Let's get to 953 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 1: the topic at hand. Okay, this article, your wife sent 954 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: it to you, You read it, what do you think? Listen? 955 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: It touches on the main crisis facing the family today. 956 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 1: Used to be family breakdown, people getting divorced and then 957 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: remarried and leaving kids without a father in the home. 958 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: But now the crisis that America faces is failure of 959 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 1: families to even form. You're seeing kids graduate college with 960 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt, and then 961 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,399 Speaker 1: they either go into the workforce that they can find 962 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 1: a job where they even if they do find a job, 963 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: they can't make enough money to even pay their bills. 964 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: But a lot of them actually take a punt and 965 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: go to grad school to make even more money. They 966 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: had find out after that they can't make that much 967 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: more money, and then they end up having to put 968 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: off marriage. And so you know, she points out in there, 969 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty of people between twenty five and thirty 970 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: four were married. Well, by twenty thirteen that had fallen 971 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: to less than fifty And so the question is is 972 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: the family important to a society and to a country 973 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: in a nation, And if it is, how do we 974 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: fix this? How do we get more families to form 975 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 1: and get back to creating the next generation, erasing the 976 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: next citizens? And I think that this article is a 977 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: great way to jump start that conversation. What are we 978 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: taking away from this, because as I mentioned in the 979 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: last segment when we had Mary Margaret on, there's some 980 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,919 Speaker 1: very stock statistics that even surprised me when they would 981 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: put this bluntly about the uptake in terms of marriage 982 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: in the United States. I mean, we can take away 983 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: depression from this article. We can take away a feeling 984 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: of hopelessness. But you and the American Principles Project that 985 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 1: you run, and a bunch of other groups out there 986 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: are actually trying to do some things to change that. 987 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: I know You've also been looking at what some European 988 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: countries are doing in this regard, and I've had many 989 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: conversations with very senior people in the Hungarian government, for instance, 990 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,959 Speaker 1: about how they are trying not just to encourage people 991 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,479 Speaker 1: to get married, but also to have large families. There's 992 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: also an immigration element to this, is they're not whereby 993 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, the logic that there is being dictated to 994 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 1: us says, well, we must import hundreds of thousands, if 995 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: not millions of people every year because we're not having 996 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: enough kids. Well how about we just have enough kids. 997 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: No that that's exactly right, raheem. And there are some 998 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: good proposals out there right now in the United States, 999 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: but there's even better ones, I think in countries like 1000 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: Poland and also Hungry. As you mentioned one of the 1001 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: proposals that I like here in the United States. Let 1002 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: me just back up real quick. So the big thing 1003 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: that one of the statistics that Helen Andrews dropped is 1004 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: that women are happier at home. In a recent survey, 1005 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: only seventeen son of mothers with children three or younger 1006 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,479 Speaker 1: said that they prefer to work full time. That means 1007 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: that eighty three percent of women that have children either 1008 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: want to work part time or not work at all. 1009 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. And so what we need to 1010 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 1: focus on is is making it less scary to have children, 1011 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: right like, it's a big deal. I mean, look at yourself. 1012 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean you're you're the same age as me, and 1013 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: you're thirty two, and there's no little routees on the way, 1014 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 1: which I find actually very oppressed. I wish that were 1015 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and more. Held on a second, you don't 1016 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: know that I don't even know that they could be 1017 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 1: out there. I suppose that's part of the problem. No, No, 1018 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: that's that's a fair enough point. It's well taken. But 1019 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 1: so we need to do is we need to make 1020 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 1: it easier for people to get married. We need to 1021 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: make it have make more sense. But right now, women 1022 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: can't find men that make more money to them, let 1023 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: alone men that you know, can keep a stable jobs. Now, 1024 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: the artist author says that it's because lots of women 1025 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: are going into the work force and taking jobs that 1026 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: men should be getting. But you know, I'm not going 1027 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: to go down that road. But what we need to 1028 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: do is make it easier and make it less scary 1029 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: to have kids. And one of the ways we can 1030 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: do that is through paid family leave. Now there's a 1031 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: proposal on the table right now from Senator to Lee 1032 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: and Senator Earns that lets parents draw from their social 1033 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 1: security in order to take time off after they have 1034 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: a baby. Now, you might not seem like that big 1035 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,919 Speaker 1: of a deal, but you know, when you do get 1036 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,959 Speaker 1: married and you're talking things over with your spouse, those 1037 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: are very tight. You know, it's hard to make ends meets, 1038 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: and so having to take eight to twelve weeks off 1039 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: to spend time with your baby is a big decision, 1040 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,479 Speaker 1: and it takes a lot of people from having kids. 1041 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: So by letting people draw from their soul security and 1042 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, take some time off spend that really important 1043 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,959 Speaker 1: time with their kids, it makes it easier to have kids. 1044 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 1: And then guess what, they figure out, we don't need 1045 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: two jobs. Actually, we can just cut a little bit 1046 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: here and not go out to dinner as much and 1047 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: we'll still be just as happy, and we'll have a 1048 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: new little mini raheem around the house. Well, what a 1049 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: what a pleasant thought. I think. I think the existing 1050 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: rehem is a handful enough, don't you. No, we need 1051 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: more of you, especially to shake things up. We need 1052 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: to you know, we need to make sure we get 1053 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: this Brexit deal done, and we need a ten more 1054 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: of you. Well, I'm trying. I try to do every 1055 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: I can't do everything, you know, I can't relaunch human 1056 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: events and get bregsit done. And you know everybody wants 1057 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 1: me to do everything. Take some responsibility for yourselves for 1058 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: goodness sake, exactly, Terry, what's your What's what's your? I 1059 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: hope this is going to be your first article for 1060 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: us on human events. Yes, I'm actually very excited about that. 1061 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 1: We're we're writing away, um and I think we're gonna 1062 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: have some pretty interesting ideas, you know, hungry and uh 1063 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: and I believe it's also poem. Um. One of the 1064 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: very interesting things that they do is that they venerate moms. 1065 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: They venerate women. You know, in this country, we kind 1066 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: of look down on moms that stay home with their 1067 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: kids and don't have a job. Which is really terrible, 1068 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 1: right because if you look at what moms do that 1069 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: stay at home with their kids, they're not serving some 1070 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: corporate master or some you know, billionaire and helping that 1071 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: billionaire make more billions of dollars. At home, they're raising 1072 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: their kids and they're they're making the next generation of Americans. 1073 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: It's the most selfless and most humbling job in the 1074 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: entire world. In this country would be screwed without these 1075 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: stay at home moms. But um, what hungry in Poland 1076 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: do is they recognize the importance of these moms. And 1077 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 1: if you have I believe it's if you have four 1078 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: kids or more, you get to draw from Social Security 1079 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: even if you never paid into it, So you basically 1080 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: get a pension at the end of you know your time, 1081 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: you know of working and being in that, but you 1082 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: can draw from Social Security because the logic is simple. 1083 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: You had, you raised four kids who are all now 1084 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 1: paying into the Social Security fund and you're more than 1085 01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: taking care of here. And it's to incentivize more kids 1086 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: is and to make it easier to stay at home 1087 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,959 Speaker 1: with your kids. I think it's a really great, great 1088 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: idea and I hope to write more about that. Well, 1089 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: I think I need is it a great idea, Terry. 1090 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: But the statistics are showing that the Hungarian governments policies 1091 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: are really working. I mean they've gone from from one 1092 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 1: point one I think children per family and they're up 1093 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 1: to sort of one point six now over the last 1094 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,440 Speaker 1: couple of years. And the trajectory is going up and up. 1095 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: So for the for the people who say no, doesn't work, 1096 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: no point trying it, don't sponsor families with with you know, 1097 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: government inducements or anything like that, you can tell them 1098 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: to bugger off, because it works, right, it absolutely works. 1099 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,959 Speaker 1: The problem though with when it comes to population growth 1100 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: or population decline is that there's a lot of momentum 1101 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: that goes into those numbers. So you know, after the 1102 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: baby boom ended and birth control was kind of starting 1103 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: to become mainstream in America, it's several decades for the 1104 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: birth rate to fall to normal levels. And and if 1105 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 1: you think of out, it makes sense, right because you know, 1106 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: when you're raised in a large family, you're probably going 1107 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 1: to have a large family yourself. You might not have 1108 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: as many kids, but you're going to have you know, 1109 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: if you come from a family of five, you'll probably 1110 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: have three or four and then that next generation. So 1111 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: it takes actually a few decades of momentum to slow 1112 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 1: down or speed up. And so the idea that Hungary 1113 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: is seeing these results so quickly is very is a 1114 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 1: very big sign of hope that these types of programs 1115 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 1: can help turn things around. Now, Terry, thank you for 1116 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: your time. And in exchange for your time, I would 1117 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: like to offer you a chance to plug your work 1118 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: and your organizations work. Where can people find out more 1119 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: about you guys? Oh, very easy. It's American Principles Project 1120 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 1: dot org. And basically what we do is we are 1121 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 1: a pro family organization that works in politics. So think NRA, 1122 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: but for the family. So we don't focus on guns, 1123 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 1: We focus on the family. We unelect the bad guys 1124 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,959 Speaker 1: and we elect the guys. It's very cool stuff, and 1125 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: we helped candidates win. Actually, we found that a pro 1126 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: family agenda across the board is what Americans need and 1127 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: what they like to vote for. And it's actually, I 1128 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: think conservatives the answer to all these big government socialist 1129 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: programs at the leftist promoting. Yeah, if you want to, 1130 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, sup board and get 1131 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: involved with a with an organization the AIDS family and 1132 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 1: family matters in the United States. That's that's APP for 1133 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: its American Principles project or. Terry Shilling, the executive director, 1134 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today on the 1135 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Hey, thanks so much for having me, Raheim. 1136 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. Alrighty. I think phenomenal article, ladies, gentlemen, 1137 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: once again in the New York Times, of all places, 1138 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: but written by Helen Andrews, the managing editor of the 1139 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 1: Washington Examiner magazine. If you want to check it out, 1140 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 1: it's called Where of the Social Conservative Women in This Fight? 1141 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: My name is Raheim Kassam. This is the Buck Sexton Show. 1142 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: We're going to be right back. And there is a 1143 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 1: specific problem, as you rightly identify, for women of color 1144 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 1: who are three to four times more likely to die 1145 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: in childbirth. And here's the thing, even after we do 1146 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: the adjustments for income, for education, this is true across 1147 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: the board. This is true for well educated African American women, 1148 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: for wealthy African American women. And the best studies that 1149 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 1: I've seen put it down to just one thing, prejudice 1150 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: that doctors and nurses don't hear African American women's medical 1151 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: issues the same way that they hear the same things 1152 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 1: from white women. Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. 1153 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm Rahem Kassam, the editor in chief of human Events 1154 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 1: dot com. That was Elizabeth Warren, one of the Democrat 1155 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 1: Party candidates for president in twenty twenty. You know, we've 1156 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 1: been talking about the issues regarding women in the United States, 1157 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 1: families in the United States, and a whole lot more. 1158 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 1: Over the course of this hour, we had Mary Margaret 1159 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: Olahan from Evy Magazine and the Daily Caller, Terry Shilling 1160 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,959 Speaker 1: from the American Principles Project, and I wanted to play 1161 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: that clip for you there by Elizabeth Warren just sort 1162 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 1: of highlight how far she's tacking now to the left. 1163 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: You know, when she wrote The two Income Trap in 1164 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, it actually dealt with why middle 1165 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: class mothers and fathers in general are going broke, why 1166 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 1: the family was effectively being economized out of the situation 1167 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: or out of what people thought was the ideal, the 1168 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 1: return to having at least one parent who could if 1169 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 1: they wanted to stay at home. Now, Elizabeth Warren, when 1170 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: she talks about women's issues, as you can her there, 1171 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: it's basically only ever talking about it from the perspective 1172 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 1: of oppression, only ever talking about it from the perspective 1173 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: of minority and minority status and identity politics. You know, 1174 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, people sometimes don't know this, at least I 1175 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: didn't know it until relatively recently. It was actually registered 1176 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: as a Republican from nineteen ninety one to nineteen ninety six. 1177 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 1: She voted Republican for a great many years. And you 1178 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 1: can see it in the two parent Trap, sorry, the 1179 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 1: two income Trap, where she talks about that and now 1180 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 1: not so much. And again it takes me back to 1181 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 1: what we were talking about at the beginning of the show, 1182 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the extremism that you now find within the Democrat Party. 1183 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: They're all trying to leap over one another, to leap 1184 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: rogue each other, to run to the left of one another. 1185 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: And you've got Joe Biden on stage in Pittsburgh going 1186 01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 1: armor Union man. You've got Elizabeth Warren and talking about 1187 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 1: minorities being oppressed in by doctors and nurses now as well, 1188 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: it seems like an attack on people who save people's lives. 1189 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: And you've got Beto in Pete Botagige. I don't even 1190 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: know how to pronounce that anymore. I've heard so many 1191 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 1: different pronunciations of it, and they're all running lefter and 1192 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,560 Speaker 1: lefter and lefter, and I gotta tell you it portends 1193 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,799 Speaker 1: very poorly, not just for the Democrat Party of America, 1194 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,480 Speaker 1: but it pretends very poorly for the American national conversation, 1195 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: if you don't mind me saying so that these are 1196 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the conversations that we're having to have now instead of 1197 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,560 Speaker 1: the conversations like the ones that I just had with 1198 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,559 Speaker 1: Terry Shilling and Mary Margaret Olihan. And actually, you know, 1199 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I started the show by talking about what a disservice 1200 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 1: the New York Times did with its anti Semitic cartoon. 1201 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,040 Speaker 1: You've got to give credit where it's due, though, The 1202 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: New York Times did a great service in publishing this 1203 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 1: article today on socially conservative women and where, where and 1204 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: why and how and when we're going to get a 1205 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 1: new likes of Philish Schlafley in our midst and so 1206 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 1: I think it was very important to talk about those 1207 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: things in the next In the next hour, don't go anywhere. 1208 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,719 Speaker 1: It's going to be talking to some very very interesting individuals. 1209 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Jack Pasbic of one American News, 1210 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 1: one of my favorite reporters, and World Chamberlain, my business 1211 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: partner at human Events dot Com. We're going to walk 1212 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 1: you through why we're doing what we're doing with that platform. 1213 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 1: In the meantime, don't go anywhere. This is the Buck 1214 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,719 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Kassam. We'll be right back. Welcome 1215 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,759 Speaker 1: back to the Buck Sexton Show. My name is Raheem Kassam, 1216 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,719 Speaker 1: guest hosting for Buck Sexton today. I am the newly 1217 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: minted as Buck once called me, editor in chief, Global 1218 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 1: editor in chief as as my little jab at the 1219 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 1: globalists of Human Events dot Com. I'm glad to be 1220 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 1: joined now by one of my favorite reporters in the world. 1221 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: He is a host at One America News, Jack Possobic, 1222 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, Jack Raean, thanks for having me 1223 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 1: on and our also congratulations on the new side of 1224 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Global editor and congratulations of the launching Human Events. Thank you. 1225 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. We're just like we're two days 1226 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 1: away now from launching and and and you know, the 1227 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,680 Speaker 1: buttocks are clenching more and more by the minute as 1228 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 1: I as I fear that what sort of traffic we're 1229 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 1: going to throw to this site that we've built and 1230 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 1: if it's going to stand up to it and we'll see, 1231 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 1: so very excited about that. Thank you for mentioning it now. Jack, 1232 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: you've been here that. Yeah, you have been tweeting furiously, 1233 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 1: even more furiously than usual. Jack. Jack is probably one 1234 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,760 Speaker 1: of the highest energy individuals I know. He's the he's 1235 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 1: the diametric opposite of Jeb Bush. Jack, you've been tweeting 1236 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,559 Speaker 1: a lot, and for a lot of it was quite 1237 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,679 Speaker 1: hard to follow because there's just so much information coming 1238 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 1: out at the moment, and you've been getting really down 1239 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 1: into the nitty gritty regarding Bob Muller, the FAISA process, 1240 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 1: Rod Rosenstein, Bill bar that whole thing. And you've actually 1241 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,759 Speaker 1: reported some really interesting information that I haven't seen anywhere 1242 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 1: else yet about the FBI, the White House, and the 1243 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Secret Service. I'm actually just going to throw the microphone 1244 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: over to you and let you talk through what you 1245 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 1: found in recent days, and then if you wouldn't mind 1246 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 1: just commenting on why we're not seeing this kind of 1247 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 1: reporting anywhere else, Jack, Yes, of course, Well, what we're 1248 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: first seeing now and this was sort of mentioned in 1249 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 1: a letter by Senator Grassley and Senator Johnson that was 1250 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 1: practically over media were new text messages sent by the 1251 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: intraptive pair of lovers, Peter Struck and Lisa Page, who 1252 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: ran the Trump investigation, the counterintelligence investigation into President Trump, 1253 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 1: which more e basically into the mulleration. So this is 1254 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,680 Speaker 1: and let me take you back a little bit to 1255 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. So we're looking at November twenty sixteen, the 1256 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 1: week immediately following the surprise upset of Donald Trump deceeeding 1257 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 1: that Worklins, and that's November eighth, that takes place, then 1258 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 1: November seventeenth, and we've just seen now new text messages 1259 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 1: that have been released between these two FBI agents and 1260 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 1: what they say in these specific messages. And we've seen 1261 01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:36,680 Speaker 1: instances where their exchanges have been released in drips and 1262 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: drabs over the past couple of years, in the past 1263 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,760 Speaker 1: few months specifically, but these are possibly some of the 1264 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 1: most shocking ones that we've seen thus far, and the 1265 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 1: mainstream media, as usual, is not giving it the coverage 1266 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: that it really deserves. I guess they're two interested in 1267 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 1: watching the game of their own season ending right right. 1268 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,520 Speaker 1: What it says here at one point is if Katie's 1269 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,840 Speaker 1: husband is there see if he can see if there 1270 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: are people we can develop for potential relationships. And then 1271 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 1: they go on to talk about a briefing security briefing 1272 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,759 Speaker 1: that they planned to make with the incoming Vice president, 1273 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,640 Speaker 1: Mike Pence. Well, the information that's come out on this is, so, 1274 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 1: who is Katie's husband? What does this have to do 1275 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 1: with Mike Pence? What does this have to do with 1276 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 1: the FBI? Well, the way it shakes out is this 1277 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,960 Speaker 1: Katie refers to an FBI analyst working for Peter Struck 1278 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:39,719 Speaker 1: named Katie Semen, Katie Seemen's husband. Right, So Katie's husband 1279 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 1: is actually a reference to the man who would become 1280 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 1: Mike Pence's Josh Pitcock. And so here we have an 1281 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,599 Speaker 1: instance now were the two agents that we're investigating Trump 1282 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: are discussing working with Mike Pence's incoming chief of staff 1283 01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,759 Speaker 1: about potentially developing sources for their investigation. What they're talking 1284 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:06,920 Speaker 1: about is using this familial connection through the analysts being 1285 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 1: married to Pennz's chief of staff, to develop sources at 1286 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,799 Speaker 1: this point within the Trump transition team and then possibly 1287 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: moving forward even within the White House itself. They're spying 1288 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,679 Speaker 1: on the White House essentially spying on the White House. Now, 1289 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: that seems like the type of story that should be 1290 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 1: leading the news channels. Any ideas why it isn't, well, 1291 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 1: I think because the news channels have come down so 1292 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 1: hard on this story. A. G. Barr said in a 1293 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: conference not too long ago at US Congress that he, 1294 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 1: in his opinion, that the presidential campaign with Donald Trump 1295 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: was spied on. However, they really pushed back on that 1296 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: labeling of the event, saying, oh, it was merely court 1297 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: ordered surveillance. You can't use the word spying, to which 1298 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: bar sysiment, why are you equivocating this point spying surveillance? 1299 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 1: It's you know, you know, six one way, half a 1300 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,799 Speaker 1: dozen the other. It's the same thing. And it's become 1301 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 1: so politically charged now that they don't want to make 1302 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 1: it look as though Trump may have been right all along. 1303 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: When we found out that he was right about the 1304 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 1: wire taps. We now note there was a FIZ investigation 1305 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 1: into Donald Trump's campaign. Now we're hearing that the FBI 1306 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 1: may have even been recruiting sources or had essentially a 1307 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 1: back channel into Mike Pennz's office within the White House itself, 1308 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 1: which would make sense because these are the same FBI 1309 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 1: agents who would later go to Mike Penns when they 1310 01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 1: were targeting General Flynn. So it really does seem to 1311 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 1: make sense that there was some kind of relationship that 1312 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: the FBI was able to exploit in order to get 1313 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 1: into the White House, especially in those early days of 1314 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: the administration. There's a couple of other avenues to explore here. 1315 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 1: None of the questions that are raised on the back 1316 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 1: of this. I mean, obviously we know that WT Attorney 1317 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 1: General Rod Rosenstein handed his resignation in to be effective 1318 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: on the eleventh of May. I think that went in 1319 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 1: earlier today, Jack, which seems to be tied to a 1320 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of this. But there's also questions to be asked 1321 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,679 Speaker 1: as to whether or not the Let's talk Ben Rhodes 1322 01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 1: for a second, right, Ben Rose. For people that don't 1323 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 1: know Ben Roads are very very lucky people. Ben Rodes 1324 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 1: is one of the most religious characters in Washington politics. 1325 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 1: The I think he's on some podcast now, but he was. 1326 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:31,680 Speaker 1: He was one of the leading figures in the Obama administration. 1327 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: He was the Deputy National Security Adviser. He has been 1328 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 1: very very close to Susan Rice and the President himself. 1329 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 1: Really one of those people, Jack that you might say 1330 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,960 Speaker 1: was was behind a lot of their a lot of 1331 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 1: their foreign policy. Ben Rhodes, you were dissecting an interview 1332 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:56,120 Speaker 1: conversation that was had with him about whether or not 1333 01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 1: the Obama administration knew and whether Obama himself knew about 1334 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 1: the the what what what? President Trump called the tapping 1335 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,600 Speaker 1: of Trump Tower all those years back when and the 1336 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 1: whole media laughed him, and he said, what are you 1337 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,640 Speaker 1: talking about? Tapping? Tapping at Trump Tower? And now it 1338 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 1: transpas of course that they were spying on him. What 1339 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,679 Speaker 1: do you think Ben's of Ben rhodes testimony in this regard? 1340 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 1: Did he give a particularly compelling case for Obama not 1341 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,799 Speaker 1: knowing about this? You know, Ben Rhodes, in that interview 1342 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 1: he just gave. I can't believe he actually sat down 1343 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 1: for that thing. I mean, it looked like he may 1344 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,679 Speaker 1: have been drinking. There was a half half an empty 1345 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: wine glass on the table next to him, or half full, 1346 01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 1: if that's your your shake on it. But he's flurring 1347 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: his speech, he can't keep his story straight, and he 1348 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:54,720 Speaker 1: immediately jumps to that Christen's classic Obama administration line of well, 1349 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm only just finding this out at the same time 1350 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 1: you are as a private citizen from the US news media. 1351 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,639 Speaker 1: It's even so long since I've heard that line be used. 1352 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,000 Speaker 1: I almost forgot that. Every single time that was scandal 1353 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,599 Speaker 1: erupted within the Obama administration, that was their go to, right, 1354 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,519 Speaker 1: So he's just he kind of jumps back to the script, 1355 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: his prerecorded statements. But I had a lawyer reach out 1356 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 1: to you at one point and said, boy, I would 1357 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,799 Speaker 1: love to be up against this guy in a deposition 1358 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 1: because you can destroy him. First of all, he's he's 1359 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,160 Speaker 1: nervous as heck. Then number two is he says they 1360 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 1: had no idea about it. There's just one problem. Ben 1361 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,759 Speaker 1: Rhodes was the deputy to who Susan Rice. We already 1362 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,640 Speaker 1: know that Susan Rice wrote an email to herself on 1363 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 1: the last day of the Obama administration expressly stating that 1364 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:46,400 Speaker 1: she and Joe Biden and Barack Obama received a briefing 1365 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 1: on the Trump investigation and very specifically about the Steele 1366 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 1: dossier itself and its allegations from James Comey and Saliates, 1367 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 1: who at the time were leading to doj and the FBI. 1368 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,680 Speaker 1: So we already have the information that the person that 1369 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you're the deputy too, knew all about this, so you 1370 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 1: probably knew all about it too, Ben Rhodes, And it's 1371 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,960 Speaker 1: fantastic to see that now. And just stepping back for 1372 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 1: a second, there is so much fact checking that's going 1373 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 1: on by conservative media. Conservative media is breaking news, human 1374 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,160 Speaker 1: events is going to be breaking news and doing so 1375 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 1: much amazing things. Don't don't put the pressure on me. Well, 1376 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean to say is that they were in office 1377 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 1: for eight years and never had to deal with any 1378 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 1: type of pushback or any type of adversarial or combat 1379 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,599 Speaker 1: or adversarial behavior from the media. Whatever they would say 1380 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,360 Speaker 1: the media, and Ben Rhodes has been public about the 1381 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 1: fact that he would outwardly lie to the media, specifically 1382 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 1: about the Iran deal, and they would repeat whatever he said. 1383 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 1: Was it, Ben Rhodes? Did you just say this? Was it? 1384 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 1: Ben Rhodes, who once talked about how stupid journalists were, 1385 01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm referring to. He would say, we 1386 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,000 Speaker 1: would come up with things in national security break yeah, 1387 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 1: and then I would go and tell them to uh, 1388 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, I would go because most reporters are typical 1389 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 1: quoting him. At this point, the pirephrasing at least that 1390 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,799 Speaker 1: mid twenties. They only have a little bit of campaign. 1391 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 1: Don't really understand how Washington works. He can tell them 1392 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 1: whatever they want, no repeat it, extraordinary stuff. Jack. Just 1393 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 1: in the last sort of thirty to forty five seconds 1394 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 1: that we've got here, where do you see this going? 1395 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 1: How do you see this transpiring? Are you about to 1396 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 1: see major declassifications? And is the Trump administration going to 1397 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 1: start moving on all of these deep states in your 1398 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,559 Speaker 1: face states whatever you want to call them, figures who 1399 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 1: appear to have been and I'll say it, behind what 1400 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 1: looks like an unabashed coup attempt. Everything that we've heard 1401 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 1: from the White House in the Oval Office specifically in 1402 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 1: recent days is that the president knows full well the 1403 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 1: amount of political capital that he has right now being 1404 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,720 Speaker 1: completely exonerated on the question of collusion and also on 1405 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,639 Speaker 1: the secondary question of obstruction, and so he is lying 1406 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 1: in wait and planning on how to really take a 1407 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,679 Speaker 1: two pronged effect to number one, go after the people 1408 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 1: who planned this coup, and that's his own words, and 1409 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 1: then number two also use this as a springboard to 1410 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,799 Speaker 1: relaunch his campaign essentially for twenty twenty. His reelection campaign. 1411 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 1: So he's trying to find a way to thread the 1412 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,920 Speaker 1: needle to do both of those at the same time, 1413 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 1: given the time frames that we're in. And I think that, honestly, 1414 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,679 Speaker 1: being on the offense is where Trump is always at 1415 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 1: his best. I also think it's his natural comfort zone, 1416 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,599 Speaker 1: and so being on offense in the face of all this, guys, 1417 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 1: you have to realize the more you go against him, 1418 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 1: the stronger you make him. I think that's absolutely right. Jack. 1419 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Just give a plug for yourself. Where can people read you, 1420 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 1: find you watch you? Yeah, the best place is oann 1421 01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,920 Speaker 1: dot com and we're also available on cloud TV. Please 1422 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 1: catch one American News is If you don't have it, 1423 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 1: contact a cable provider. You can get us. We're on 1424 01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 1: with FiOS, were on directdd Ron Rocco as well. And 1425 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 1: Jack at Jack posobic that's p O S O B 1426 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,439 Speaker 1: I E C on Twitter? Is that correct? Yes, make 1427 01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,439 Speaker 1: sure you're following Jack. He's he's in a he's in 1428 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: a fight to the death now, in a race to 1429 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,519 Speaker 1: the death rather against his good pal Mike Sanovitch to 1430 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,720 Speaker 1: see who can get more followers on Twitter. So let's 1431 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 1: let's see Jack over the line we're hashtag team Jack 1432 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,200 Speaker 1: over here. Thanks once again to Jack Posobic. This is 1433 01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:36,160 Speaker 1: on the Back Show from Beach Today. I'm joined now 1434 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 1: by the president of the Claremont Institute, a fine conservative 1435 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 1: think tank. Ryan Williams, joins us on the line. Ryan, 1436 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,080 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being here today. Always my pleasure him. 1437 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Ryan, You and the Claremont Institute 1438 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,360 Speaker 1: and the American Mind are undertaking a new series, and 1439 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: I understand that there's going to be a presentation about 1440 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,919 Speaker 1: this in Washington, d C. This week as well. Defend 1441 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,759 Speaker 1: America Defeat Multiculturalism is the name of this fantastic article 1442 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,640 Speaker 1: on the American Mind dot org. Would you tell us 1443 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 1: a little bit about it, Ryan, Sure, yeah. We you know, 1444 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 1: we've always been in the education business, the first Principle's 1445 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: education business, but we thought the tenor of the times, 1446 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: and especially the tenor of the modern left, merited a 1447 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 1: little more of a proactive and political approach. So we're 1448 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,080 Speaker 1: we're launching a campaign of sorts between now and the 1449 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty presidential election. And the theme really is captured 1450 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:34,840 Speaker 1: in my essay Defend America, Defeat Multiculturalism. And by multiculturalism, 1451 01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,799 Speaker 1: you know this term was in vogue in the nineties, 1452 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:41,400 Speaker 1: and all the complaints about the ridiculousness of the various 1453 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 1: studies department on campuses. But our argument really is that 1454 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 1: it's it's now spread to the rest of America. It's 1455 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:53,640 Speaker 1: really the animating energy or the animating purpose of the 1456 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,639 Speaker 1: modern left, especially at the leading edge of the modern 1457 01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,960 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, and if they're allowed to to instantiate it 1458 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: across the land, it's going to be bad for Americans. 1459 01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,959 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's the politics of multiculturalism or identity politics. 1460 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: In their enforcement arm is political correctness. So what does 1461 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 1: that mean really, Well, the old tradition of the founding 1462 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,719 Speaker 1: the founders of America is the belief and individual rights. 1463 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 1: That the new notion and the new multiculturalist notion is 1464 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,720 Speaker 1: that there are only group rights and that really democracy 1465 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:31,599 Speaker 1: or republicanism is all about figuring out amongst these groups 1466 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 1: who's been the most oppressed given the history of the West, 1467 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 1: and then allocating resources, prestige, honor, political position according to 1468 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,760 Speaker 1: that rubric of oppression that we think this is no way, 1469 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 1: no real way to run a country, rather than leading 1470 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 1: to um, you know, the the uplift of those oppressed 1471 01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 1: groups and genuine diversity. It will just lead to the 1472 01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,080 Speaker 1: division of Americans into Balkanized groups and God for and 1473 01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 1: continuing descent into cold and eventually even heart civil war. 1474 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,320 Speaker 1: So we thought we really need to argue against this, 1475 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,719 Speaker 1: engage the right in this argument, and try to build 1476 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 1: a coalition around the defeat of this pernicious influence in 1477 01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 1: the body politics. So that's that's what we're up to 1478 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 1: with the project. And it really is a fantastic essay. 1479 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,200 Speaker 1: I've shared it with my Facebook page, with the human 1480 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Events facebook page, on my Twitter feed, everywhere I could 1481 01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,559 Speaker 1: possibly share it. I love how you summarize things. I'm 1482 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,639 Speaker 1: going to read a little passenger and just just ask 1483 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,640 Speaker 1: you to elaborate a little bit and maybe how we 1484 01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 1: can defeat it as well, rather than just identifying the problem. 1485 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,639 Speaker 1: You say. In short, multiculturalism as a worldview, a regime 1486 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,559 Speaker 1: in the classical sense, a political and cultural way of 1487 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,840 Speaker 1: life wrapped up in one. As an ideology, it stands 1488 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,719 Speaker 1: for nearly the opposite of America's national motto. It seeks 1489 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,760 Speaker 1: to divide and conquer Americans, making many groups out of 1490 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 1: one citizenry. The modern left accustomed to running the campuses. 1491 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 1: According to the new social dictates of multiculturalism now wants 1492 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 1: to run the world that way. Okay, so we know this. 1493 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the audience will be very 1494 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,479 Speaker 1: familiar with this, and I think a lot of Americans 1495 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:13,559 Speaker 1: are necessarily against the idea of multiculturalism. But how do 1496 01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 1: you actually rest control back from the left in this regard. Well, 1497 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,560 Speaker 1: it's no small task. I mean, you've been toiling in 1498 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 1: these vineyards for years. Well, I mean one place to 1499 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,719 Speaker 1: start is to start at the source. This won't happen overnight, 1500 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,200 Speaker 1: but we have to go after higher education. Libertarians and 1501 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 1: even a certain species of conservatives have been a little 1502 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,520 Speaker 1: queasy about wielding the power of the federal government to 1503 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 1: help bring the colleges into line. But look, we give 1504 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: away lots and lots of money to almost every college 1505 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 1: in the country, and especially the elite ones. I don't 1506 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: see why we shouldn't start insisting that they stop basically 1507 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 1: engaging in what amounts to seminary work of anti americanism 1508 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,679 Speaker 1: on campus, and we can start to change the nature 1509 01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 1: of the debate and free some thought up on the campuses. 1510 01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,240 Speaker 1: That would be a place to start doing it. Of course, 1511 01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 1: in line with constitutional dictates, of course, but but you know, 1512 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 1: we give away one hundred billion dollars and change a 1513 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:16,280 Speaker 1: year in substance, to say nothing of the subsidiation of loans. 1514 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,960 Speaker 1: So I would start with the campuses and then I would, 1515 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 1: you know, make the argument publicly and build a political 1516 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:26,880 Speaker 1: coalition around it and really start running on it. Ran. Yeah, 1517 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,679 Speaker 1: we're very pushed for time, but we're gonna yeah, sorry 1518 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 1: about that, but we're gonna feature it on human events 1519 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 1: dot Com later on in the week as well. Ryan 1520 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:34,640 Speaker 1: Williams at the Clamant Institute, thank you so much for 1521 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,599 Speaker 1: joining us here on the buck Sextons Show. That's great. Thanks, cheers, 1522 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahemcasam, the 1523 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,840 Speaker 1: global editor in chief of human events dot Com. I'm 1524 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 1: joined for the next two segments by the publisher of 1525 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,640 Speaker 1: human events dot com, my business partner Will and and 1526 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,360 Speaker 1: friend Will Chamberlain joins us on the line now. Will, 1527 01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time out of 1528 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 1: your fantastic sick live periscopes to join us on the show. 1529 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Raheem, and I do I do appreciate 1530 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:10,960 Speaker 1: a friend qualifier. I think that's particularly important. I see 1531 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: I didn't say in which order it was either in 1532 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:19,800 Speaker 1: no particular order. Ull Will Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein 1533 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 1: resigned earlier today. You have been across this issue in 1534 01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:28,920 Speaker 1: quite an impressive way in in recent months. You were 1535 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 1: on the One American News Network o a N just 1536 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 1: last week, I think, talking about the curious way in 1537 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:40,639 Speaker 1: which Attorney General Will Bill bathwarted the advances of Bob 1538 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 1: Muller and Andrew Weissman in the in the in the 1539 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Muller Probe. And there's a fantastic piece of analysis that 1540 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,640 Speaker 1: will be going on human events dot com when we 1541 01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 1: launch on Wednesday. If people want to read that Will, 1542 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,639 Speaker 1: we'll pick it apart and explain it all to you guys, 1543 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: because there are really a lot of intricate moving part 1544 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 1: that can quite easily be missed unless you've read the 1545 01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,000 Speaker 1: entirety of the Miller report, or unless you know you 1546 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 1: are studying this thing day in and day out, and 1547 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 1: that's what Will has been doing. So well, talk to 1548 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,080 Speaker 1: us a little bit about the resignation of Rosenstein, what 1549 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 1: you think it means, and where this goes next. Because 1550 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,479 Speaker 1: because we had Jack Posobic earlier on in the show, 1551 01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,920 Speaker 1: and he was talking about spying in the White House 1552 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 1: and the FBI and Lisa Struck and what's Lisa Page 1553 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,080 Speaker 1: and Struck and all of that kind of stuff. It's 1554 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,559 Speaker 1: so detailed, and there's so much going on behind the 1555 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,639 Speaker 1: scenes that people don't see, and that the news networks, 1556 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 1: even the right wing news networks, and not really covering 1557 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 1: or getting to grips with. So why don't you give 1558 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,960 Speaker 1: us a little bit of information on what you're seeing 1559 01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:47,599 Speaker 1: behind the scenes there. So I think Rob Rosenstein made 1560 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 1: made it clear he wanted to resign a few months ago, 1561 01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,360 Speaker 1: but when Bill Mark came on that this story has 1562 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,479 Speaker 1: been in the news a lot that Bill Barr asked 1563 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,920 Speaker 1: Rose and seemed to stay on to help him with 1564 01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 1: the fives investigation, how the fives warrant was issued against 1565 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,040 Speaker 1: Carter Page. So I think the fact that Rosenstein is 1566 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:09,280 Speaker 1: now resigning demonstrates that Barr has what he needs from Rosenstein, 1567 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,160 Speaker 1: because when Rosenstein's back out in the world as a 1568 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:16,120 Speaker 1: private citizen, it's not as simple a process to interview him. 1569 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,599 Speaker 1: You know, people have talked about how there's an Inspector 1570 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,640 Speaker 1: General investigation going on into the five A case and 1571 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:28,320 Speaker 1: other things. The investor Inspector General rather cannot subpoena individuals 1572 01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,080 Speaker 1: who are not in the department. They can only ask 1573 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,720 Speaker 1: for interviews of people who are still employed. So my 1574 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:37,160 Speaker 1: basic thesis is the real significance of why the Rosenstein 1575 01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:41,640 Speaker 1: resignation today is that Barr has no more need for 1576 01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,479 Speaker 1: him to be there to help him understand what happened 1577 01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 1: over the past couple of years. And what does this 1578 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,480 Speaker 1: mean for Bar then? I mean, is he really isolated 1579 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,400 Speaker 1: now in that position or does this given an opportunity 1580 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 1: to consolidate the AG's office around where he now wants 1581 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 1: to go, right? I mean, I think Bar has been 1582 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,400 Speaker 1: in firm control of the AG's office almost from the 1583 01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 1: moment he stepped into shoot, stepped into the position. I mean, 1584 01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,000 Speaker 1: just think about it. Six weeks after he was confirmed, 1585 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,760 Speaker 1: the Moller investigation was over, and it was pretty clear 1586 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,519 Speaker 1: that the Department of Justice was suddenly under his firm 1587 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,519 Speaker 1: control as opposed to underseptions when it seemed like it 1588 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,760 Speaker 1: was almost an autonomous agency, completely independent from the Trump 1589 01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,240 Speaker 1: administration and sometimes hostile to it. So I think I 1590 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 1: think Bar has been in control. But what Rosenstein's resignation 1591 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:32,080 Speaker 1: means is that Bar will now get to appoint his deputy, 1592 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,160 Speaker 1: So that will help him further consolidate control over the 1593 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:39,360 Speaker 1: pardon because he'll be able to considently delegate certain functions 1594 01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,640 Speaker 1: to a handpicked deputy, knowing that that deputy will not 1595 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 1: for his intentions. Well, and what do you make of 1596 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:51,559 Speaker 1: the of the sort of situation as Jack Pisobic explains it, 1597 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:57,000 Speaker 1: in that there appears to have been moved by the 1598 01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:01,120 Speaker 1: FBI to even recruit some people from within the White 1599 01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,439 Speaker 1: House of the Vice President's team to help to help 1600 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,760 Speaker 1: spy effectively. Right, I mean that that news itself is shocking. 1601 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I mean the Rosenstein personally had involvement 1602 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 1: with that. It seems like, I mean, he was made 1603 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,760 Speaker 1: deputyag early on and the Trump administration, but doesn't strike 1604 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,719 Speaker 1: me as like that person responsible for the spying itself. 1605 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,600 Speaker 1: That seems like it was Peter Struck and leads a 1606 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,719 Speaker 1: page and you know, slight and maybe Andrew McCabe too, 1607 01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,880 Speaker 1: but not all the way up to Rosenstein. That why 1608 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,000 Speaker 1: do you think it is se go ahead, go ahead? Okay? Well, 1609 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,720 Speaker 1: I was that said Rosenstein wasn't really that inclined to 1610 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 1: investigate that stuff. It seemed as though Rosenstein was perfectly 1611 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 1: happy to let the Mueller investigation continue without any sort 1612 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:49,599 Speaker 1: of supervision, but very reluctant to do anything to deal 1613 01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,920 Speaker 1: with the various scandals that arose out of this pretty 1614 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,439 Speaker 1: clear FBI spying. So what do you think the Trump 1615 01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 1: administration goes from here? Where does the White House go 1616 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:03,400 Speaker 1: from here? Because quite clearly, whether it's been hyper intentional 1617 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,880 Speaker 1: or semi intentional, I think you can't say. You can't 1618 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,639 Speaker 1: say it was unintentional. You had to get the warrants, 1619 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:11,960 Speaker 1: you had to do the spy, and you had to 1620 01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,479 Speaker 1: reach out to those people that Jack was talking us 1621 01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:18,240 Speaker 1: through earlier. Where do you think they go knowing that 1622 01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,720 Speaker 1: really they haven't been able to fully trust a lot 1623 01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 1: of the administrative state that they have inherited and that 1624 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,880 Speaker 1: have been around them. They now have the ability that 1625 01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,559 Speaker 1: you have a g barr in there, that you have 1626 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:34,559 Speaker 1: a little bit more semblance of control over that whole process, 1627 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,679 Speaker 1: over the departments. But can they trust the people around 1628 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 1: them now? And what will they be doing from a 1629 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,320 Speaker 1: political perspective? Do you think over the next couple of 1630 01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:49,560 Speaker 1: months declassification of the warrants and all the documentation surrounding them, 1631 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,559 Speaker 1: or is this the time to draw the line under it, 1632 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,559 Speaker 1: because we're heading into an addiction cycle. I mean, I 1633 01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,840 Speaker 1: don't think I don't think they're going to have like 1634 01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:01,160 Speaker 1: discussions about what is the best political move for the 1635 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,120 Speaker 1: Trump for Trump's campaign. I don't think that's the kind 1636 01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,680 Speaker 1: of conversation Bill Barr would be amenable too. Well. I 1637 01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,920 Speaker 1: think Bill Barr is in Trump's corner. I think he's 1638 01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,320 Speaker 1: still enough of a lawyer and in an institutionalist about 1639 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,720 Speaker 1: DJ that he would, you know, kind of recoil at 1640 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,559 Speaker 1: any you know, insinuation that he was going to bring 1641 01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,920 Speaker 1: a prosecution for political reasons or start the classifying things 1642 01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:26,320 Speaker 1: for political reasons. But isn't isn't that exactly what Eric 1643 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 1: Holder used to do. Didn't Eric Holder describe himself as 1644 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Obama's wingman, right? I Mean that's certainly true. And it's 1645 01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, when people say and criticize bar for being 1646 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,439 Speaker 1: a Trump lackey, it's it's really obvious that these same 1647 01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,880 Speaker 1: people had nothing to say when Eric Holder was, you know, 1648 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,040 Speaker 1: Obama's wing man. They had nothing to say when Lauretta 1649 01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,880 Speaker 1: Lynch was on the tarmac with Bill Clinton while she 1650 01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 1: was nominally investigating his wife. Like all there's you know, 1651 01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,720 Speaker 1: there's all sorts of shenanigans that have already gone on 1652 01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,240 Speaker 1: at DJ and you know, I mean at the same time, 1653 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:02,479 Speaker 1: so I mean, and now the Democrats to shoes. On 1654 01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,519 Speaker 1: the other foot, the Democrats control the House and they 1655 01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:09,320 Speaker 1: want to exercise you know, supervision over Bar, but they 1656 01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,040 Speaker 1: set a lot of precedents that will be easy for 1657 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,920 Speaker 1: Bar to exploit. Well. I think as the time goes on, 1658 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,680 Speaker 1: and especially over night, people are going to get to 1659 01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:20,000 Speaker 1: be getting to grips with this Rosenstein issue. So you know, 1660 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,400 Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll hear more about it, much more about 1661 01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,599 Speaker 1: it tomorrow and no doubt in the in the weeks 1662 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,479 Speaker 1: and months to come as well. When these people have 1663 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,120 Speaker 1: left their positions in the Trump administration, for some reason, 1664 01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,320 Speaker 1: they don't go quietly into the night. I'm sure there's 1665 01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:37,280 Speaker 1: a book deal in there somewhere for Rod Rosenstein as well. 1666 01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,519 Speaker 1: I want to pivot in the last segment that we 1667 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,520 Speaker 1: have here on the show today to do a shameless 1668 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,840 Speaker 1: segment plugging what you and I have been working on 1669 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,400 Speaker 1: for the last couple of months and what launches in 1670 01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,920 Speaker 1: just two days time. That's Human Events dot Com. It 1671 01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,519 Speaker 1: was Reagan's favorite magazine when when he was president, he 1672 01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:01,000 Speaker 1: credited it with his conversion from liberalism to servitism. It's 1673 01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,840 Speaker 1: the oldest conservative magazine in the country, seventy five years old, 1674 01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:05,920 Speaker 1: and it's been sort of sitting on the shelf, not 1675 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,880 Speaker 1: doing an awful lot over the last six years or so. 1676 01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,880 Speaker 1: And you and I identified that it was both a 1677 01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,559 Speaker 1: great shame that that was happening to that brand and 1678 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 1: be a great opportunity for something very beautiful to come 1679 01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,320 Speaker 1: to the conservative media sphere in the form of an 1680 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:25,599 Speaker 1: online magazine and hopefully, you know, one day print where 1681 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,439 Speaker 1: we can actually showcase the best of the right. But 1682 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,519 Speaker 1: hold hold over the break, Will, and we'll get to 1683 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,519 Speaker 1: talking about that in just a moment. This is the 1684 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,160 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam. We're going to be 1685 01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,720 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. I'm 1686 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,519 Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam, Global leterature in chief of human events dot com, 1687 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,040 Speaker 1: joined by my colleague Will Chamberlain, the publisher of Human 1688 01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,720 Speaker 1: Events dot Com. We're going to talk to you guys 1689 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,040 Speaker 1: now a little bit about what we're doing with that 1690 01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:52,200 Speaker 1: very very well established prestige conservative media brand and hoping 1691 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,559 Speaker 1: that you'll come on over and support our work. Will 1692 01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:59,280 Speaker 1: take take it away, take the pitch away. So yeah, 1693 01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:03,680 Speaker 1: we've purchased Human Events. We locked that down in late February, 1694 01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 1: right before Seepack, and we're going to launch on Wednesday. 1695 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm extremely excited. I mean, the amount of content that 1696 01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,760 Speaker 1: you've managed to get together and the quality of the 1697 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 1: contributors that are contributing to the launch day is really 1698 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,120 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. So I'm really excited about the content. In 1699 01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,040 Speaker 1: terms of the vision for what we're doing. There is 1700 01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:28,200 Speaker 1: missing on our side, a prestige magazine that a prestide 1701 01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,840 Speaker 1: digital magazine that can really elevate the discussion for the 1702 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,760 Speaker 1: sort of nationalist conservative movement, and I think that Human 1703 01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,640 Speaker 1: Events is an opportunity to really create that out of 1704 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,000 Speaker 1: whole cloth, right. I mean, we have some media outlets 1705 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,680 Speaker 1: that are generally inclined towards our side, but many of 1706 01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 1: the traditional conservative media outlets are more inclined towards establishment, 1707 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:53,479 Speaker 1: you know, nineteen nineties conservatism than they are to Trump 1708 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,080 Speaker 1: in the movement he created. You're talking about what is 1709 01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:01,280 Speaker 1: derogatively described as a boomer conservative is nowadays, I think, 1710 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:06,639 Speaker 1: rather than the sort of the muscular nationalistic conservatism, that 1711 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,240 Speaker 1: the President Trump stands for, and that we had Ryan 1712 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,040 Speaker 1: Williams from the Claremont Institute talking about earlier on in 1713 01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,719 Speaker 1: the show. You know, when I when I talk about 1714 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,519 Speaker 1: it with people, will I always say, look, the left 1715 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:22,800 Speaker 1: has Rolling Stone, it has Vanity Fair, it has The Atlantic, 1716 01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:27,639 Speaker 1: all these big, beautiful prestige brands that give a lot 1717 01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:33,679 Speaker 1: of legitimacy to the left's arguments. They they lose nice, big, 1718 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,280 Speaker 1: pretty pictures. The fonts are all very nice, the arguments 1719 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,280 Speaker 1: are very well made. They pump this stuff out and 1720 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, to a in a great extent, the younger 1721 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:51,599 Speaker 1: people who are consuming political media and cultural media, they 1722 01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 1: look to that as a as a reason by which 1723 01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:58,559 Speaker 1: to read something. If this doesn't look good, they don't 1724 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,240 Speaker 1: actually want to have much to do with it. And 1725 01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, you have your on the right, your your 1726 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,320 Speaker 1: your news sites like bright Bar and Drudge and all 1727 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,840 Speaker 1: these guys. But actually, and and this isn't I'm not 1728 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,400 Speaker 1: being derogatory about them at all, but they don't provide 1729 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,240 Speaker 1: something that I think the new audience in this area 1730 01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:18,679 Speaker 1: is looking for. So I always say, the reason we're 1731 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:23,559 Speaker 1: doing this is because we've left a massive, massive chink 1732 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:27,479 Speaker 1: in our armor here in not providing a very high quality, 1733 01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,840 Speaker 1: glossy product for people, and not just that. It's not 1734 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:34,200 Speaker 1: just about the look, it's also about coherent philosophy that 1735 01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:41,000 Speaker 1: doesn't seek to assume that people are either stupid or 1736 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:44,160 Speaker 1: uneducated not willing to educate themselves. But that also isn't 1737 01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,280 Speaker 1: too high for lutin. You know, it's not a journal, 1738 01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,800 Speaker 1: it's not it's not academia, but but it sort of 1739 01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:51,639 Speaker 1: merges the two. I suppose I call it, and you've 1740 01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:55,840 Speaker 1: heard me call it tabloid intellectualism, right right, And I 1741 01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,639 Speaker 1: mean I feel like that's partially to our own horns. 1742 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,960 Speaker 1: I guess that's sort of our style of politics, in 1743 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,040 Speaker 1: our style of commentary, is that you know, there's no 1744 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,840 Speaker 1: reason to think that you should be talking to a 1745 01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 1: tiny audience of intellectuals, or that only a tiny audience 1746 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 1: of intellectuals cares about content quality and cares about aesthetics. 1747 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 1: Most people do care about those things, and I think 1748 01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,760 Speaker 1: most people will read thinks that are both of a 1749 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,800 Speaker 1: high intellectual quality in terms of making good arguments, and 1750 01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,960 Speaker 1: I have a high visual quality in terms of being 1751 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,400 Speaker 1: aesthetically pleasing and good looking. And I think that that's 1752 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,760 Speaker 1: our That's the key opportunity here. If you really do 1753 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:37,719 Speaker 1: create something on our side that is accessible, but smart 1754 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,120 Speaker 1: and beautiful as well, then you've got you've got something 1755 01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,439 Speaker 1: pretty cool that could could really drive a conversation and 1756 01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,719 Speaker 1: change the narrative for our entire movement. So we announced 1757 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,439 Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of weeks ago that we 1758 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,080 Speaker 1: have a very difficult conservative media sites to make money 1759 01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,080 Speaker 1: in advertising. You know, you get boycotted and advertisers come 1760 01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,680 Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure from the political left to 1761 01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:04,479 Speaker 1: advertised with conservative news sites or magazines. So we actually 1762 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:09,639 Speaker 1: set up a membership structure by which to run this website, 1763 01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,880 Speaker 1: and we are from this point on, or at least 1764 01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 1: from like a week ago until a month after launch. 1765 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,439 Speaker 1: So so Wednesday is our launch day and then until 1766 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,960 Speaker 1: a month after that. We've got this scheme called the 1767 01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:26,240 Speaker 1: Founding Fathers scheme where founding members of Human Events you 1768 01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 1: can go online right now to human events dot com. 1769 01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,920 Speaker 1: You can sign up. There's a button there that says 1770 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,439 Speaker 1: click here to sign up as a founding father. The 1771 01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:34,600 Speaker 1: seventeen dollars and seventy six cents a month, which is 1772 01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,320 Speaker 1: very small in the grand scheme of what it takes 1773 01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,040 Speaker 1: to run an entity like this. I mean the Conde 1774 01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,040 Speaker 1: Nasts and the Vanity Fairs and all those guys. Remember, 1775 01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:43,840 Speaker 1: they're running on budgets of tens of millions, if not 1776 01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,479 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions every year. We're asking people to put 1777 01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,280 Speaker 1: their hands in their pockets. For seventeen dollars and seventy 1778 01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,439 Speaker 1: six cents a month, they come on board, and they 1779 01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:54,200 Speaker 1: get exclusive access to our private Discord chat channel where 1780 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,120 Speaker 1: you can talk to me and Will in real time. 1781 01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,519 Speaker 1: And I'm actually going to start putting out endorsements by people. 1782 01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,439 Speaker 1: We've already got two hundred and fifty people in the 1783 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 1: Discord group from people who are finding that really very 1784 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,760 Speaker 1: cool to be in a chat with us and learn 1785 01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,200 Speaker 1: in real time what's going on in DC, what's going 1786 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,960 Speaker 1: on in their politics, what's what's about to happen, all 1787 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,000 Speaker 1: of that stuff. They get a free sign copy of 1788 01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,559 Speaker 1: my next book, they get exclusive content, they get exclusive 1789 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,000 Speaker 1: emails and offers and all that kind of stuff that 1790 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,000 Speaker 1: you would expect, and a whole lot more. We're going 1791 01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,439 Speaker 1: to be holding parties and meetups and gala dinners and 1792 01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,120 Speaker 1: all these nice things that you would expect for an 1793 01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,320 Speaker 1: investment like that. Because I know, well, it sounds like 1794 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,160 Speaker 1: a small amount of money for some people. It's also 1795 01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:35,960 Speaker 1: a lot of money for some people. But we think 1796 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,400 Speaker 1: it's value. We think it's a value proposition. We're always 1797 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 1: complaining on our side that we're not doing enough, we're 1798 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,320 Speaker 1: not out there enough, we don't have enough media brands. 1799 01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,200 Speaker 1: And the fact of the matter is, well, if people 1800 01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:46,760 Speaker 1: like you and I don't do it and don't stick 1801 01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:48,840 Speaker 1: our heads above the parapets and build this stuff, it's 1802 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,680 Speaker 1: just not going to happen, right exactly. And I think 1803 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,479 Speaker 1: the key part of why to choose a membership structure 1804 01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,240 Speaker 1: instead of a subscription or a paywall, right is that 1805 01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,599 Speaker 1: when you think about you're trying to support. When you're 1806 01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,519 Speaker 1: supporting a political magazine, you're supporting that magazine because you 1807 01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:08,719 Speaker 1: want its ideas to flourish. I mean, unless you're reading 1808 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,400 Speaker 1: it to hate read it and you just feel like 1809 01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,439 Speaker 1: you need to read the content. But in general, the 1810 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,280 Speaker 1: way I think about it is, if I'm actually giving 1811 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,960 Speaker 1: money to a conservative magazine, it's because I want I 1812 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,400 Speaker 1: like the ideas in that magazine, and I want those ideas. 1813 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,439 Speaker 1: I want to read those ideas myself. But I also 1814 01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,400 Speaker 1: want others to read them and be persuaded by them. 1815 01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,680 Speaker 1: If that's true, then a paywall or a subscription is 1816 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,720 Speaker 1: sort of contrary to that concept. Instead of, you know, 1817 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,960 Speaker 1: letting your content be free and go viral, you're putting 1818 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,600 Speaker 1: a paywall behind it making demanding the people pay to 1819 01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:41,120 Speaker 1: see it. And what ends up happening is the content 1820 01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,160 Speaker 1: itself doesn't go viral. So's having a very good way 1821 01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:45,960 Speaker 1: of putting it in now, it's a very good way 1822 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,280 Speaker 1: of putting it. Yeah, and soy by doing it this 1823 01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,640 Speaker 1: way where you are a member, you can interact with 1824 01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,559 Speaker 1: us in a chat, and the exclusive context is content 1825 01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,920 Speaker 1: is more personal and sort of like adds as a 1826 01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,040 Speaker 1: taste of kind of behind the scene type material rather 1827 01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:03,400 Speaker 1: than being the kind of material that a political magazine 1828 01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:07,120 Speaker 1: is trying to use to put her Absolutely well, you've got, 1829 01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,760 Speaker 1: we've got We've got twenty seconds left, so I've got 1830 01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,360 Speaker 1: to wrap up here. But thank you so much for 1831 01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,080 Speaker 1: joining us. That's Will Chamberlain, the publisher of human events 1832 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 1: dot com, come over, be a founding father, be a 1833 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,960 Speaker 1: member of that site. I want to thank our producers 1834 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,960 Speaker 1: and our engineers. I want to thank everybody across the 1835 01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,840 Speaker 1: across the network who's helped us do this broadcast today. 1836 01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,880 Speaker 1: It's been absolutely fantastic, fantastic guests. My name is Raheim 1837 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:33,479 Speaker 1: Kassam buck Sexton. Back with you shortly. I hope you 1838 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:34,880 Speaker 1: have a very good day.