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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always

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Speaker 1: so much for tuning in before we begin this marathon.

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Speaker 1: Let's give it up for the man, the myth, the legend,

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Speaker 1: the one and only super producer, Mr Max Williams. They

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Speaker 1: called me Ben, our good friend, rider die better half

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Speaker 1: of the show. Mr Noel Brown is returning very soon

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Speaker 1: and sends his regards. In the meantime, we have a

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Speaker 1: special event here in today's episode. We are talking Olympics.

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Speaker 1: We are talking the history, what went right, what went wrong?

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Speaker 1: We're drilling down into something specific and ridiculous. We're not

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Speaker 1: doing this alone. Uh. Fellow Ridiculous Historians, please join me

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Speaker 1: in welcoming our special guest, a world renowned expert on

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Speaker 1: the four Olympics, Mr Max Williams. By how do how do?

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Speaker 1: How do? How do I am here? Yes, astute, astute historians.

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Speaker 1: You may recognize this voice. This is the guy who

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Speaker 1: produces this show. This is also the guy who helms

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Speaker 1: some notable episodes of one of my favorite podcasts, of Femeral.

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Speaker 1: Uh Max, can you tell? Can tell any of the

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Speaker 1: uninitiated a little bit about ephemeral. Yeah, Femeral is a

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Speaker 1: story where we kind of just trying to dig into,

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Speaker 1: you know, stories that aren't told enough. So Femeral its

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Speaker 1: definition kind of means this is a bad s scribing

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Speaker 1: of it. But um like things that are lost or

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Speaker 1: or easy to be lost. So easiest direct comparison would

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Speaker 1: be like fleeting. So what we try to do is

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Speaker 1: gifts stories that could be fleeting or easily lost to

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Speaker 1: history some life and some longevity, because you know, that

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Speaker 1: is the bed of podcasting is it's you know, in

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Speaker 1: its digital form, it is easy to be up. But

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Speaker 1: then you know that brings up a whole other debate

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Speaker 1: about how ephemeral our podcast We don't know that yet.

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Speaker 1: We are still in the early stages of the life

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Speaker 1: cycle of podcasts, so we won't know that for a while.

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Speaker 1: So full disclosure, folks. Uh, Noel and I both play

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a role in the show of Femeral.

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Speaker 1: I think it is fascinating, uh, and I think he

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Speaker 1: nailed the definition max. Uh. If you if you have

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Speaker 1: ever parted by yourself and asked whether a fart that

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Speaker 1: no one hears is natural part these are the questions

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Speaker 1: ephemeral tackles, as well as additional Max, You're shaking your head,

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Speaker 1: as well as questions about things like the fascinating film

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Speaker 1: Carnival of Souls, as well as things like the um

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Speaker 1: oh gosh, the evolution and dissolution of so many, so

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Speaker 1: many errors pop culture, Like, Max, can you tell everybody

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Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit more about specific episodes

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Speaker 1: that are close to your heart. Yeah, so like some

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Speaker 1: a dive into he was obviously the director of Carnival

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Speaker 1: Soul is one of your favorite movies. Ben. He has

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Speaker 1: He made educational films for this company called Centron, located

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Speaker 1: of like this guy who made educational films, then made

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Speaker 1: films again. So it was It's it's cool because not

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Speaker 1: of video games, which was my favorite. That's that that

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Speaker 1: that that's like my child to me, honestly at this point.

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Speaker 1: Now Max broke his heart for some of this stuff, folks.

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Speaker 1: And when you check out these episodes that Max and

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Speaker 1: understand there's, uh, there's a marathon here. Uh and Ephemeral

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Speaker 1: again is one of my absolute favorite shows. I don't

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Speaker 1: took place in nineteen o four. What's going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: Can we sound cue that real quickly? Sound don very sarcastically.

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Speaker 1: So here we go. Uh so, Max and I are

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Speaker 1: started cramping up, and you know, I kind of imagine

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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: he had this whole like a screw this, this is stupid,

426
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: and so he jumped in the car with his coach

427
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: and he's just like, take me to the end of

428
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: this thing. And I personally, later on, he would go

429
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: on to say that he did this all as a joke.

430
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: He was never gonna accept the honors. He just gave

431
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: up and quit. That's what he said. Who knows if

432
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: that's true or it's probably not. But so he gets

433
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: in the car and there's driving by it. He's waving

434
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: it everyone like he's not like hiding it at all. Oh,

435
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: he's waving it other runners as well. Yeah, spectators, runners, coaches, everyone,

436
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: and I'm guessing when they're driving he's driving by like

437
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: everyone just assumed that he had to quit the race

438
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean, there's people like, I mean,

439
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: there's a guy who in the first couple of miles

440
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: almost dies of a stomach hemorridge, Like there's gonna be

441
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: people who are gonna up be we're on the cars.

442
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: But you know, with like like, what is like four

443
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: miles left? He says, you know what, I'm feeling pretty good.

444
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: Let me out. I'm gonna jog the rest. And at

445
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: that point Thomas Hicks one of his coaches season and

446
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, get off the course and and like

447
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: Lord's like, what do you do? Run me down? And

448
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: so he just runs some finches at the race, and

449
00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: we are we are introducing the decided winner. Eventually after

450
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: after this Shenanigan gets revealed to the public, Thomas Hicks

451
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: wins and is considered the winner of the four Olympic marathon.

452
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: It's the slowest in Olympic history up to this time.

453
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: We're looking at three hours, twenty eight minutes and fifty

454
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: three seconds, which is, honestly, for most of us listening,

455
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: an awesome time. If you run a little less than

456
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: twenty five miles in less than four hours, well done.

457
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: But um, but Hicks had some stuff going on as well.

458
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: This this whole thing is is a mess of spaghetti. Like,

459
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about Hicks for a second. Yeah, I mean

460
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: the line that this is a side show is correct.

461
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean this is this is just this. This is

462
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: not good. I mean putting something like the stuff that

463
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: Hicks and his camp did during this phrase would disqualify

464
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: anyone in modern day Olympics. I mean, there are most

465
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: things he did, but I mean, so look, remember early on,

466
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Hicks is one of the favorites in this phrase. He

467
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: was just one of the front runners from the entire time.

468
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: But around like the ten mile mark, he starts cramping

469
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: and feeling terrible, and he like waves down his support

470
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: crew and he's like, hey, I need some water, guys.

471
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like his crew had a

472
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: lot of weird conceptions of what was good for the runners,

473
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: what was bad for the runners, so they refused to

474
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: give him water. No water, they and eventually they go like, okay,

475
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: you can have this distilled, warm water that's gonna sponge

476
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: around your mouth. And then like he somehow recovers, he

477
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: keeps going. He was about like eight more miles and

478
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: then he's like, guys, I can't seriously, I cannot go

479
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: any farther. I cannot go in from the Remember, like

480
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: nobody's really making it that far in this run, Like

481
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: this guy's out in the front and they're like okay,

482
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: you gotta push through and making this concoction of Strict nine,

483
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: which is is still in use today. It's mostly used

484
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: in rat poisons, but it is has some other less

485
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: legal purposes as well. They take the Strict nine and

486
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: mix it with egg whites into this concoction and he

487
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: chugs it like you know, it goes full blown, like

488
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Rocky Balboa, if Rocky Balboa had, um, you know, some

489
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: rats living inside of me you want to get rid of.

490
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like the reason, the reason why

491
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: he used the Strict nine is in very small doses

492
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: it has a stimulant esque effects. So not only is

493
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: this guy poisoning himself, but he's, you know what, doing

494
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: what we call nowadays an Olympics doping. He's literally doping

495
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of the race. It was funny is

496
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: they also had a flask of brandy, French brandy by

497
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: the way, not not kon yak, it wasn't from but

498
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: French brandy. And they said, you don't need it yet,

499
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: we'll give it to you later. Okay, Yeah, you're good,

500
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: You're good, bro, Just you don't check up, get your

501
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: stuff together. This CK nine that is going through this

502
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: man's system is damaging him obviously spoiler alert. He is

503
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: having a hard time running because he has poisoned himself.

504
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: And when he hears that our buddy Lores called, well,

505
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: he hitchhiked, but he basically called an uber, I would

506
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: say when when when he hears that guy has cheated

507
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: and been found out, he says, I still got it.

508
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I still got it despite the rat poison. And he

509
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: tries to run, but the best run he can do

510
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: is kind of a clop clop clop clop clop clop trot,

511
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, And and his trainers are like, you know

512
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: what will fix this? A little more strict nine? Yeah, yeah,

513
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 1: So they gave him some more strict nine. And this

514
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: time they gave him some brandy to go along with

515
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: those delicious egg whites, and they got something like warm

516
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: water and they just dumped it all over him because

517
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: you know what, it feels great when you're at in

518
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: this probably what what would you guess, probably a hundred

519
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: five hundred ten degree heat index weather. Let's just stop

520
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: some dump some hot water on you, because even if

521
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: it started warm, it's gonna be hot by the time

522
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: we dump it on him. There is a quote from

523
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: a race official by the name of Charles Lucas, where

524
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: he goes on to say, over the last two miles

525
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: of the road, Hicks was running mechanically like a well

526
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: oiled piece of machinery. His eyes were dull, lusterless, the

527
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: ash and color of his face and skin had deepened.

528
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: His arms appeared, his weights well tied down. He could

529
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: scarcely lift his legs. His knees were almost stiff. So

530
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: this guy is trippy. Now, okay, just to be very clear, folks,

531
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: this guy is actively hallucinating. He does not really know

532
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: where he is is in our reality and our shared dimension.

533
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: He's off on this thing, you know, he's in the

534
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: upside down or whatever you wanna call it. And he

535
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: thinks the Finnish line is still twenty miles away. So

536
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: in the very last mile he starts asking like anybody

537
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: will come buy, Please feed me, I'm starving. Oh please

538
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: let me just let me lie down for a second,

539
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: let me let me get a nap. And what does

540
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: his team do. Well, they first hand him some brandy, right,

541
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: they get him drunk again, and they say, also, we

542
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: have some tea if you want, and he's like, dad,

543
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: just anybody what's our egg white situation? Yeah, I mean

544
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of a slip in the face, like do

545
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: you want this hot tea? I'm just assuming the teeth hot.

546
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like, why are you doing this to

547
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: this guy? Why is this competition happening? Like how did

548
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: no one die in this thing? That it is really

549
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: a miracle that I really needs to be reashed. That's

550
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: why we say it at the front. So old Boy

551
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: is not running at this point, spoiler folks. He is

552
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: walking and uh he walks up again. We said there

553
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: were seven hills and they had a pretty steep incline,

554
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: and so he is walking up these hills, just powering

555
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: through it. Kind of day drunk at this point, definitely

556
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: dealing with the consequences of rat poison. And he gets

557
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: the max. He gets like to the downward slope and

558
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: he says, Okay, I'll jog a little. I'll jog a little.

559
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: I might run. I might want to get to the

560
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: finish line running. You know, it's a marathon. That's what

561
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: we're about. How's he doing? Uh not well. So he

562
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: gets in there and he's trying to run and he's

563
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: doing that whole like stumbling the leg thing like you'll

564
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: see like people in marathon stuff to do that at

565
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: the very because you know they've run like all his existance.

566
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: He's doing it because as you said, he's day drunk

567
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: and hallucinating. So this is this is another thing that

568
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: obviously would have disqualified him and many other like racing

569
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: events nowadays. Is he has two turns kind of run

570
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: up and they go underneath his arms and they're basically

571
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: just carrying him. His legs are just kind of like

572
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: they're moving. They're moving. He's just like a puppet kind

573
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: of going, but he's not doing in the moving. They're

574
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: moving him the rest of the way and like you know,

575
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: Loris has a crossed the finish line. They don't know

576
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: where one of the South African dudes are. Carbon Hall

577
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: is still taking a nap. These things that disaster. So

578
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: they're like, sure he's the winner, why not, we're not

579
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: like else. Roosevelt has to get somewhere, guys like we

580
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: just got it. We gotta end this. Come on. So

581
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: he gets crossed the finish line, he's declared the winner.

582
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: He takes four doctors an hour to get him like

583
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: good enough shape so you can leave, they said, he

584
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: lost eight pounds during the race, which is ridiculous. Member,

585
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: three and a half hours, that's how long this was.

586
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: Eight pounds, three and a half hours. And he would

587
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: go on to say, never in my life have I

588
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: run such a tough course. The terrific hills simply tear

589
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: Amanda pieces. Yeah, and again his team carried him across

590
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: the finished line the same way for any for any

591
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: of our ridiculous historians who are parents. You know, you

592
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: remember how when you took your kid into a pool,

593
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: you sort of held the kid by the belly and

594
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: the kids like, I'm swimming and you're thinking, you're saying,

595
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: sure you are, You're doing a great job. But super

596
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: props to you kids. But later, Hicks and Lores compete

597
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: in the Boston Marathon and Lore's doesn't call a car.

598
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: He actually does run and respect where it's do. He wins.

599
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: But Max, one thing that was really interesting to me

600
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: about this when we were talking about this off air,

601
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: and and again when you found this idea and we're

602
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: in this pitch meeting and you said, here's here's something

603
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: that really stood out to me. One thing that was

604
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: fascinating was that you said the marathon wasn't the only

605
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: weird thing about the nineteen o four Olympics. Well, and

606
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: I do want to give equal credit to Mr Noel.

607
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: He found it. We both were both looking in the

608
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: same direction that we both found it. Brilliant story. Uh

609
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: uh Yeah, the ninet enno four Olympics were really weird.

610
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is really early on Olympics

611
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: coming back. This does not temple what we have right now.

612
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: So one of the first really weird things is calling

613
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: this the Olympics is really not what you want. Olympics

614
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: is a global event with countries competing. Here's the thing

615
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: nineteen o four, getting the St. Louis that's not an

616
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: easy city to get to if you it's smack dab

617
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: in the middle of United States. Like the only way

618
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna get into you go to New Orleans and

619
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: go up the Mississippi. It's not it's not in these ways.

620
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: So by the time this Olympics started, there was only

621
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: twelve countries. Five twenty three of the six thirty total

622
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: athletes were Americans. Half the competitions only featured Americans. So

623
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: Mr Ridlous and Americans won two hundred and thirty nine

624
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: metals at this Olympics. This was not an Olympics. Yeah,

625
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: I know, that's fair, that's fair. Another reason why this

626
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: was an Olympics was, you know, Olympics are like like

627
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: two weeks long, a little more than two weeks. This

628
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: was five months long, so a lot of the track

629
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 1: and field events did happen in a pretty short time period.

630
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: But remember it was kind of designed and there's more

631
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: stories to this. There were only the Olympics were supposed

632
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: to be in Chicago. There's a lot more to this

633
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: that you that you all can go research on your

634
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: own if you are so inclined you want to learn

635
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: more about this. It says there's a lot to this,

636
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: but it was. This Olympics is designed to be mostly

637
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: like a promotion for the fair, so it has to

638
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: run the entire length of affair. Fairs last a lot longer, right,

639
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: the World's Fair, the Louisiana purchase one years, blah blah blah,

640
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: a huge big deal, anthropology, games, racist bs type Stuffeah,

641
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: they hasn't really be a promotional for that, Yeah, very

642
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: much boos. But so it runs this entire time. They

643
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: have some ridiculous events, so they have a uh, military

644
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: athletic Carnival, they have an Irish sports festival, which I'm

645
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: just assuming was really racist, and a y m C

646
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: A Basketball Championship, a y m C A Basketball champions Well, hey, hey,

647
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: of the three, just named us probably the most Legitmac.

648
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: That's probably they're probably actually playing basketball, folks. Max is

649
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: our resident expert on sports in general. Please check out

650
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: our curling episodes if you haven't heard them earlier. Uh,

651
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: I know you have feelings about this, man, I know,

652
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: are you a basketball guy? We haven't really talked about

653
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: this huge basketball. I would always say basketball is about

654
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: the major sports in America. Basketball's number two on my list,

655
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: behind baseball. I used to be a bigger football fan,

656
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: but I mean football I love, but it's hard to

657
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: watch football when you know, you get like five minutes

658
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: of football and then tis that's fine. Yeah, it's true.

659
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: It's true of football. Football in the US is a

660
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: different sport from football and the rest of the world. Right. Uh,

661
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: the US residents call actual football soccer, and we have

662
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: a thing that is an excellent vehicle for commercials, and

663
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: that is that is what your US friends called football.

664
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: But dude, it's killing me. I'm wondering you know, I

665
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: always think about this, what makes us sport an Olympic sport?

666
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: And you pointed out you and I both know this.

667
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: There are many sports that kind of had tryouts in

668
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: one year of the Olympics or the next year and

669
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: don't make it into the official canonical roster of Olympic sports.

670
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: Have I gotta ask, man, why isn't dodgeball in there?

671
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like maybe it's because the

672
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: Olympics UH typically prizes individual performance, that that's part of it.

673
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: And if you have an idea for a solo dodgeball performance,

674
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: let us know. But you pointed out, you pointed out

675
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: one are your favorite Olympic sports of yesteryear? Please? They

676
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: had tug at war, they had tugo war and this

677
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: was and a couple of things I want to say.

678
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: It's first of all, this had been in a couple

679
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: of Olympics is already and was in the Olympics still

680
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty. And also tug a war is like such

681
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: like when you look at it, it looks like a

682
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: Greek Olympic sport, like like an old school of classic Olympic.

683
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: It looks like we just invented rope Let's make it anything,

684
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: and then there's a there's a pit in the middle

685
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: full of spikes, because we're talking about that that period

686
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: of athletics where athletics usually ended with somebody being impaled.

687
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: Squid games, I get it. Yeah, yeah, I mean these

688
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: When you think of Olympics, do you think of modern Olympics,

689
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: you think they would look a lot more like what

690
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: Olympics look like right now. But there was a lot

691
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: of oddities. Uh, We're actually gonna have another episode about

692
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: a different, really weird Olympic sport that was on there

693
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: for a very long time and not talked about. We're

694
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about it right now. We have we're

695
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: working on the research for that one. That one's coming up.

696
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna have that one. Mr Knowles back. But yeah, yeah,

697
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: this was some weird This is a weird as Olympics.

698
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: Bat that's that's all that's saying. And you know the marathons,

699
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: just like you know the cherry on top of it all.

700
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, this is our our way. And I

701
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that the concept of the

702
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: Olympics overall is really strange. It speaks to something universal

703
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: and human about a lot of civilizations and cultures, but

704
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: also it's been used for any number of purposes. I

705
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: full disclosure, Max, I'm I'm writing an episode about the

706
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: IOC for a different show called Stuff They Don't Want

707
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: You to Know, And if you are interested, I'm gonna

708
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: ask you on air. If you are interested, I would

709
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: like you to guest on it. Oh, most definitely. I

710
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: I have a very strong feelings on the IOC. I mean,

711
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: I say, most corrupt sports organizations in the world. It's

712
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: fifas number one. That's why they accepted IOC. Kind of

713
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: like they stay sliding just underneath FIFA though. It's like

714
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: right there and put in summary how close they're like

715
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: n C double A, which literally serves no purpose in

716
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: college football any longer or college basketball. We're at the

717
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: end of the episode. You're popping off, You're popping off

718
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: the hot shots real quick, right, you're running the clock out. IOC,

719
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: by the way, folks, is International Olympic Committee. Yeah, n

720
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: C double A super corrupt, terrible, um nowhere close to

721
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: as bad as FIFA and io C R. IOC is

722
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: just there's ben I bet you you'll cover a lot

723
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: of that in the Stuff that I want you to know. Episode.

724
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: But that's just my opinion on there right now. But

725
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: I don't Ben, you want to turn this a little

726
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: bit more positive on the end and just talking about

727
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Oh okay, he got me on that one.

728
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, okay, tell me tell me Hippus Hall. All right,

729
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: So I want to hit us with a couple of these. Uh.

730
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: So we have aspired on Belicus. He was lords before Lors.

731
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: That's probably the best way to say. It's so in

732
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: the eighth Olympic marathon he finished third, and everyone's like, yeah,

733
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: and he was he was Greek. The first second place

734
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: finishers were Greek. So it's like the Greek sweep the podium. No,

735
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: the guy took a chariot. This guy was not a chariot.

736
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: He didn't have he didn't have a gas powered car

737
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: or whatever cars are powered off of that race, but yeah,

738
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Speaker 1: he did that. Uh. Probably my second favorite one I found.

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00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: We have Madeleine and Margaret tajy SU's they are correction Madeline,

740
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: and this is important distinction. She is an Olympic athlete

741
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: for Puerto Rico in the nineteen eighty four l A

742
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: Summer Games. So she's gonna compete in two events. She's

743
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: gonna do the long up and then she's going to

744
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: be in the four by four relay. Problem is she

745
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: pulls her hand string during long jumps. They're like, oh no,

746
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: they got to the sub. They're gonna sub in or

747
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: maybe they don't have sub who all knows. But she

748
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: makes the miraculist recovery and runs the marathon. Except she

749
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: didn't because she has an identical twin sister named Margaret,

750
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: who ran in her place and make matters worse. It's

751
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: not like Margaret was on the team. Margaret was just

752
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: so they were watching the festivities. She I mean, granted

753
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: she was, she had like tried off of the team.

754
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: She didn't make the team, but she was a runner herself.

755
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: But they just wouldn't grabbed her from the stadium and

756
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: just said come down there. I mean, it's at least

757
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: better than grabbing like you and me, but like not

758
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: much better. And they were like immediately disqualified. Oh no, man,

759
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: I think you would do I think because it's a relay.

760
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, we get by with a little help from

761
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: our friends, so so we could, you know, we could strategize.

762
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if we would get the gold. I'm

763
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: just gonna be honest with you. But between you, null,

764
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: me and our fellow ridiculous historians, I think we could

765
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: I think we could place. I'm gonna say, I think

766
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: we could place. We got a lot of fast minds

767
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: in the audience. Yeah, you know, they're gonna have to

768
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: carry me. That that that that's the last Like I'm

769
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna be holding up the rear and my portion of it.

770
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: But I'm fine with that. I've come to peace with that.

771
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: But bro, I'll carry you. I know, I know the

772
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: survival roles, all this stuff like U R O L

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Speaker 1: L S. By the way, folks, Uh, you know I

774
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: can actually we might be hanging out in person in

775
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: a little bit, so uh, I will if you if

776
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: you want to test it, let's test it. I will

777
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: pick you up and see how far we can run.

778
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: Sounds good. But there is one more group of cheaters

779
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: I want to name, and then we can go ahead

780
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: and exit this episode AUCT and that is the Tunisian

781
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: modern ptathlon team. So we're over in nineteen sixties Olympics.

782
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: For people who don't know what the patathlon is is

783
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: being penta five sports. It is fencing, freestyle, swimming, equestrian

784
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: pistol shooting and cross country running. So the Tunisian team

785
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 1: was not doing well. So they're doing the horseback riding

786
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: section and one of the guys falls off the horse.

787
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: They're doing the swimming section and one of the swimmers

788
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: nearly drowned. They get to the shooting sections air pistol shooting,

789
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: they think they're gonna do really well and they nearly

790
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: shoot a judge and get disqualified. Again. No one dies

791
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: in this episode. No one dies in this episode. We

792
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: were like ridiculous crime in this aspect. Nobody's dying in

793
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 1: this episode. So they go into the fencing, and obviously

794
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: they're like in the last place, and they say, we

795
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: gotta make some sort of comeback. So they probably can't

796
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: win it, but at least have more respectable showing. And

797
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: so they say, you know what fence they were maths,

798
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: Let's just send our best guy up there with every

799
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: single time different number or whatever. But Sam mask I,

800
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: no will notice. They noticed very quickly and they got

801
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: the qualified like that. Uh well, that's how it happens sometimes.

802
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: What we're saying, folks, is that there is a lot

803
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: of trickery. There are a lot of shenanigans that occur

804
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: not just in yesteryear, but often in Olympics today, as

805
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: anyone checking out the Russian dope and scandal will be

806
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: well aware. Uh, you know, I want to give props

807
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 1: where they're due. Mr Max Williams here has in addition

808
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: to producing every episode that you like and none of

809
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: the episodes that you don't like, by the way he has, uh,

810
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: he has brought to bear uh quite a bit of

811
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: research that we may not get to day. So perhaps

812
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: the best way to say it is the Olympics as

813
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: a concept really nice. The Olympics as a practice, as

814
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: a real world event, it's a It's always a lampoon.

815
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: It turns out no. Do you know, Max, I want

816
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: to give you the last word here. What what would

817
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: you say to our fellow ridiculous historians who are wondering

818
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: about more Olympics trivia? What would you what do you

819
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: what do you want to leave people with? As our

820
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: special guest today, I'm gonna go really sample here. And

821
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: because this this came up very much in the most

822
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: recent Winter Olympics. Put the Olympics in places where these

823
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: sports should be performed. We should not have people running

824
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: a marathon in ninetyree weather with nine humidity. We should

825
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: not have a Winter Olympics in an area that does

826
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: not go below freezing. This is just simple stuff. Uh yeah,

827
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: some of the additional restarch we have. There was, unfortunately

828
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: some talk about, you know, the ninety six Berlin Olympics,

829
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: where like you know, they gave the Olympics to Berlin,

830
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: then they elected Hitler and put Hitler in power. Don't

831
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: hold you can hold these people accountable if you want to.

832
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: I mean there has been some pandering the dictators over

833
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: these last you know, a couple of decades by the Olympics.

834
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? To your point, Ben, the

835
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: Olympics are a beautiful event. It is really cool and concept.

836
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: But they will abuse it. They will siphon money, they

837
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: will turn a blind eye to cheating and stuff if

838
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: we don't hold them accountable. And you know, it's simple

839
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: put these people on blast. And that's fine with me

840
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: because I love the Olympics. I watched the Olympics NonStop.

841
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: I have a Peacock subscription just for watching the Olympics.

842
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: And now Sunday morning Baseball. I didn't think I would

843
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: love it, but eleven a m. Baseball's amazing. On a Sunday,

844
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: it is amazing. I sleep in, I wake up, I

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Speaker 1: put on the Orioles versus the Cubs or whatever random

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Speaker 1: limpics are awesome. The IOLEC sucks. That's my parting words. Wow,

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Speaker 1: hot takes uh also takes. I agree with you know,

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Speaker 1: Louis Marathon. So that's it for us today, folks, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much as always for tuning in. Let's have

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Speaker 1: a big hand for not only our super producer Mr

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Speaker 1: Max Williams, but also our guest host Mr Max Williams,

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Speaker 1: also our research associate for today's episode, Mr Max Williams.

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Speaker 1: And if you're hearing this by yourself, I highly recommend clapping.

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Speaker 1: It's weird to me that clapping is not an Olympic

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Speaker 1: sport because there is an art and athleticism and a

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Speaker 1: craft to it. Max. Who else should we think? Oh

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Speaker 1: so many more people. But before I start thinking, people

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Speaker 1: just don't clap if you're on a plane. No one

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Speaker 1: likes you if you're clapping on the plane, but other

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Speaker 1: people we should think. We should obviously think our full

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Speaker 1: time research associates, Jeff Bartlett and Zach Williams say are amazing.

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Speaker 1: We should thank Alex Williams who is making this lovely

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Speaker 1: theme song and is also my older brother. Uh, Matt

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Speaker 1: Frederick because he has a beautiful singing voice and is

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Speaker 1: my work older brother. I guess I call him that

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Speaker 1: one time, and I'm sticking to it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why it's weird. I work with my actual brother who knows.

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Speaker 1: We'll go with it. Uh, let's see. I want to

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Speaker 1: give a special shout out to all of our sisters

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Speaker 1: shows Ridiculous Crime, Ridiculous Romance, and Ridiculous News for are

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Speaker 1: all great shows. If you like this show and you

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Speaker 1: have to check those shows out, then what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Why aren't you? They're amazing? Yeah, they're better than us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the whole slate is better. To be honest. If you

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Speaker 1: like I feel like our little show, then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: love Ridiculous Romance and you really will. Uh, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: adore Ridiculous Crime, and you are going to be over

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Speaker 1: the moon about ridiculous news. Now, Max, Noel and I

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Speaker 1: work assiduously to try to get guest spots, to try

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Speaker 1: important thing to remember is that all of these shows

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Speaker 1: are free, and we have it on good authority that

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Speaker 1: all of the people creating these shows are kind of awesome.

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Speaker 1: There again, they're like a little I'm gonna say it objectively.

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Speaker 1: Nol gets mad when I pointed out, but they're a

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Speaker 1: little They're a little cooler than us. They're fast and

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Speaker 1: more qualified than us too. We're just some like the

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Speaker 1: foons that they gave them mikes to. They are actually

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Speaker 1: very funny, very intellectual people. Okay, come on, Fine enough,

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Speaker 1: moving on. Shout out as always to Eve's Jeff Go

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Speaker 1: Christopher aciotis our boy, Gabe Lousier. Shout out as well

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Speaker 1: to uh my number one, Mr Noel Brown, since his

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Speaker 1: regards will be returning soon. We cannot wait to hear

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Speaker 1: what you think, folks. You can find us on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: you can find us on social media, whatever social media

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Speaker 1: you happen to sip. Ridiculous history is probably there. Max,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say you have outdone yourself. This is awesome

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Speaker 1: and you and I are overdue to go see either

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Atlanta United or The Brains together. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a pick? Do you have a preference? How

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Speaker 1: we could try to do both them one day. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time, folks. For more podcasts from my

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