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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi everybody, and 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: welcome in to our Monday morning podcast. My buddy, former 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: NFL scout John Middlecoff has the Three and Out podcast. 14 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Golf Obsessed Tiger Fan will be joining us in about 15 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: five to seven minutes. You know, the gut punch of 16 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: the weekend was the death, the sudden death of Dwayne Haskins, 17 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steener quarterback obviously for the Steelers, Washington and 18 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Ohio State football. You know, all death is sad, young, sudden. 19 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: I think like most of you just kind of in 20 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: a funk all day thinking about that, you know, Dwayne 21 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: Haskins is interesting. For years and years, you know, I 22 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: grew up in the West Coast, so I watched all 23 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: these rolls bowls. Ohio State, Michigan were generally occasionally Wisconsin 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: with Barry Alvarez were the teams that ended up playing 25 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Pac ten or Pac eight or Pac twelve representatives. For 26 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: years and years, Ohio State would get there with a 27 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: Woody Hayes or a Jim Tressell, and it was a 28 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: very conservative offense. And you know, they would either have 29 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: a game manager like a Craig Krenzel or occasionally, you know, 30 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: a smaller athletic Troice Smith, not your classic sit in 31 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: the pocket guy. But when Dwayne Haskins had that fifty 32 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: touchdown season for the Buckeyes, he was the first Ohio 33 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: State quarterback that looked like a number one quarterback pick, big, strong, 34 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: good arm, accurate, sit in the pocket, overrunning. Regardless of 35 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: what happened in the NFL, I think the reason that 36 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: Ohio State could go get a CJ. Strout or go 37 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: get in recruiting justin fields is because Ohio State and 38 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: people used this against the Buckeyes forever. Is you go 39 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: to Ohio State as a quarterback, You're not going to 40 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: play in the National Football League. That's something Alabama for 41 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: years faced is that you can play in the NFL 42 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: at Alabama, but quarterbacks that's not the spot. But I 43 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: think Dwayne Haskins has really changed the most important position 44 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: in football at Ohio State going forward. It's the only 45 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: thing I've ever thought that program lacks. And the Big 46 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: Ten as a whole, by the way, has done a 47 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: lot of great things over the last you know, ten 48 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: fifteen years, never been a great quarterback conference. So I 49 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: think Dwayne Haskins really opened that up and will forever 50 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: sort of change Buckeye football. Very gracious, very gregarious kid. 51 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: I think I speak for everybody when young people pass 52 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: away early, regardless of how it's just it makes you 53 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of appreciate every minute of your day and the 54 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: entire weekend. I talked to a lot of friends in 55 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the media, out of the media's it was just everybody 56 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: was sort of in a funk over that story. A 57 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: lot of different things to talk about with John Middlecoff listen, 58 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: The Masters was really fun. I still contend the US 59 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: Open is my favorite tournament the British Open, because the 60 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: aesthetic is so unique. Probably my second The Masters is 61 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: mostly about history and nostalgia. I did think The Masters 62 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: put out a drone video this weekend where for the 63 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: first time, people like you and me could go inside 64 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: the clubhouse, and I thought that was Listen, people want 65 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: drones to deliver their Amazon packages. If you can just 66 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: take me places that I've never been, I'd prefer that 67 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: instead of those things buzzing around my neighborhood dropping off sweatshirts. 68 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: I thought the Masters on their website and on their 69 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: Twitter account showing the drone inside their facilities was one 70 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: of the coolest uses of a drone I've ever seen. 71 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: In terms of Scott Scheffler, boy did he look nervous. 72 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: He reportedly cried the night before or the morning of, 73 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: and his wife kind of centered him. Not a little 74 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: four puts on the eighteenth of the Masters for a winner. 75 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: But you know, the Masters has always been this tournament. 76 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: We've had the ultimate choke with Greg Norman, we have 77 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: the obvious nerves with Scott Scheffler. You know, we had 78 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods winning it a few years ago and the 79 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: ultimate comeback. I still think it's probably my third favorite tournament. 80 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: It's really for diehards, the optics of it, the history 81 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: of it. But there are so many good golfers. Think 82 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: about this. When Tiger was in his prime twenty years ago, fifteen, 83 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, one golfer on the two are averaged 84 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: over three hundred yards off the tea, John Daly. Now 85 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: ninety PGA professionals hit it off the tea over three 86 00:05:53,760 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: hundred yards. The field's never been more athletic, stronger. So 87 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: congrats to Scheffler. One thought about the NBA playoffs. The 88 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: playing games start Tuesday. The playoffs officially start Saturday. Obviously, 89 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: the last year, the last year and a half has 90 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: been really brutal for Ben Simmons didn't work in Philadelphia. 91 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: Part of the Brooklyn trade disappears. There are stories now, 92 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: multiple sources saying he could play in the first round 93 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: of the NBA playoffs. And I said this about two 94 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: weeks ago. If Ben Simmons plays and never scores, simply 95 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: defends and distributes to Katie, Kyrie Irving and the crew, 96 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: I think Brooklyn can get to the Eastern Conference Finals 97 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: against Milwaukee and give them fits. They'll beat Miami. I 98 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: think they'd beat a Boston easily beat a Chicago if 99 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: they played him Philadelphia as well. Simmons length, defense, and distribution, 100 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: forget scoring. If he's tentative in regards to shooting, his size, 101 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: his length, his distribution. The guy's got multiple gifts above 102 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: the shoulders. Who knows what I get? Does he have 103 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: any confidence? But I mean, you don't even have to 104 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: play him big minutes. If they got into a series 105 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: with a Miami or a Boston and I could get 106 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: eight minutes a half out of him, Seriously, put him 107 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: on a Jason Tatum. Put him on a Jimmy Butler. 108 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: The kid is six ten and incredibly long, and as 109 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: a willing defender, and knowing he's not there offensively, you 110 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: know his distribution and his defense, you would be getting 111 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: max effort from Ben Simmons. So that is a really 112 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: really intriguing playoff story. Now you say to yourself, well, 113 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: what about the chemistry? Again, you don't even need to 114 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: ask him to start. If he can be a lockdown 115 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: defender in spots against the Jimmy Butler Adjason Tatum eight 116 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: minutes a half, I think that's the difference in those series. 117 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Very rarely do you go into a playoff series and 118 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: you have the two best closures and lose that series. 119 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: Their only problem in Brooklyn is length and depth and 120 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: defense because Kyrie is an atrocious defender. Let's go to 121 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, former NFL scout, my buddy, part of the 122 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: volume sports podcasting media network, A cocktail, a sip before 123 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: John joins us. 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All right, let's bring him on. 157 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: My buddy, John Middlecoff, former NFL Scout, also hosts a 158 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: three and out and the Golow Golf Pod on the volume. Well, 159 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't the outcome I guess most people were rooting for. 160 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: But I thought it was fairly predictable. The longer engulfed, 161 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: the tougher the weather, the more he struggled. He was 162 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: limping the entire weekend. I had Dustin Johnson, but I 163 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of felt like, you know when when golfer's age 164 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: or they're injured, you get to the weekend. That's a 165 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: lot of walking, it's a lot of shots. I just 166 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: when I watched it, I thought, yeah, this is this 167 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: is sort of what this is sort of what we 168 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: were get. Did you feel the same way, Yeah, I 169 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: mean I didn't really know. I mean, a guy coming 170 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: off it's one thing that we've seen him play with 171 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: the back fusion and the bad knee. It's another thing 172 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: to have an ankle shattered, right, I mean, any other 173 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: sport obviously the main team sports, but ten you name it, 174 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: its career over. I mean he's got a rod through 175 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,359 Speaker 1: his ankle. You know, he's just the will and determination. 176 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: And he mentioned this, I think a couple of days 177 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: ago that since he got out of the hospital bid 178 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: bed where he spent three months, calling three months in 179 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: a hospital, that's insane. And think about a guy like 180 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: that who's just an alpha hard charger, never takes a 181 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: day off, probably thirty years in his life, whether it's 182 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: working out, playing golf active. He didn't take a day 183 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: off from out of the hospital bed till this week 184 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: of just training, whether it was and say he's like 185 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: some days we're not as intense as others, but his 186 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: drive to compete. This guy has more money. Can you 187 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: imagine how much money he has in the bank, can you? 188 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what he's accomplished, his fame? What's he doing 189 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: this for? Right? Is it maybe his kids? Maybe he 190 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: wants to see his Sam and Charlie keep seeing him compete. 191 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: But they got to see him a couple of years 192 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: ago win the Masters, right they just his daughter just 193 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: inducted him the Hall of Fame. I'm fat. I know 194 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: you are too. What drives humans like Tom's healthy? You 195 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: know Tom Brady's not getting touched. He's even said the 196 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: game has never been easier Tiger. I mean, well, what's 197 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: he doing this for? Really? I mean, his dad's gone, 198 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: his kids saw him win, Like, is it just this 199 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: is the way he's wired. He's just gonna go down 200 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: till he literally can't play anymore. I'm fascinated by taking 201 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: about this. So when I had my pulmonary embolism, I 202 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: had a small blood clot and it touches, it touched 203 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: the nerve, rubbed against the nerves, so as painful as hell. 204 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: So when they let me out of the hospital after 205 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: I talked my way out of it after thirty hours, 206 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: I faked it because you didn't want to say there anymore, right, 207 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean I was driving you night. I was in 208 00:12:53,000 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: incredible pain. Okay, that's thirty hours. How badly do you 209 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: have to be hurt that? Tiger Woods, a pro athlete, 210 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: was not allowed out of a hospital for three months. 211 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: I had a blood clot in my lung and they 212 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: let me out in thirty hours and I was fine, 213 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: but I was sore, and I mean sore, like it 214 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: hurt to walk for like four days after and I 215 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: was allowed out. Like I don't think people understand. I 216 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: know exactly where it's car flipped on Palace Verdes. I've 217 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: driven around that corner. It's treacherous. Yeah, but it's like, 218 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: does everybody understand three months in a hospital is COVID. 219 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: If you went to the ICU, you were out in 220 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: two weeks. Three months is just I'll say this is that. 221 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: I really like how the Master's crowds and people treat him. Now, 222 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, when Tiger first came, he was so dominant 223 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: and so aggressive. I don't think a lot of older 224 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: golfings knew exactly how to handle him. Probably he was 225 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: fist pumping and swearing. I mean, he's so vulnerable now. 226 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: Like to me, he is so far and away the 227 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: most popular golfer in America, right, Like, am I missing something? No? 228 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think he's this second half 229 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: comeback of him winning the Masters a couple of years 230 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: ago and then him going through this. I mean, I 231 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: think he's one of the most famous people in the 232 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: history of American sports, right, I mean Ruthian Brady, I 233 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: mean he's on a shortlist right of just I mean, 234 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: obviously he's internationally known, but the comeback, and there's an 235 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: element in a day and age where there isn't any mystery, right, 236 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: we know everything about everyone. Most people at his shoes 237 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: would have documented everything. There would have been YouTube's about 238 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: his company. Tiger is very very old school, just you know, 239 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: he's not like he's sixty. I mean he's forty six 240 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: years old. No one knew what he was doing, and 241 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: up until about ten days ago, it's like, yeah, he 242 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: might play the Masters, but most athletes, we would have 243 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: known this three months ago because they would have been 244 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: posted on social media. Training. No one knows anything with 245 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: this guy and the other thing a little like Brady 246 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: but probably even closer to the vest. Nothing gets out 247 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: with Tiger that he could the message he can. I 248 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: mean Belichick's jealous of that. Nothing comes out of that circle, right, 249 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: and then it just flips his back. But the keyword 250 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: there is vulnerability. I think he's very relatable now because 251 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that any human can relate 252 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: to is our parents and then our children, and at 253 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: one point in our life were either one or the other. 254 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: You're looking up to your parents or you have children. 255 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: And his emotion when it came he got induct to 256 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, started crying with his mom and 257 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: his daughter inducted him it's just Kobe I think became 258 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot like that in those last couple of years 259 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: of his life, and he just became like, God, I 260 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: like this guy. He just became very you know, it's 261 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: for an unrelatable human. It felt like he was had 262 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: some relatability to him. Yeah. I don't know what's next 263 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: for him. I mean it's probably its hold on for 264 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: dear life. Yeah, and he's an old forty six. He's 265 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: weathered Colin, I mean the back fusion, tore an acl life, 266 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: reatening car wreck, a global travel family drama like Brady 267 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: gets tackled for a living and is a significantly younger 268 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: mid forty years. Not even close, not even close that 269 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: I go honestly, you know, you've met all these guys 270 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: over the years. You know, when you meet an NBA 271 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: player from the seventies or an NFL lineman from the 272 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: and you just watch them move, You're like, oh my god, 273 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: how does this guy? You know, an al Adoles or 274 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: a mean Joe Green. You see some of these guys. 275 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I met me and Joe 276 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: Green and just his gate. You know, that's what Tiger 277 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: feels like. He played in the NFL in the seventies 278 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: when you watching them move around. Yeah, so I want 279 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: to go because you're so connected to the Niners, to 280 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: the Deebo Samuel deal. I said this the other day, 281 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: having been in the media for twenty five years. One 282 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: of the annoying things about the younger media because I 283 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: think most people work very hard, and I encourage and 284 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: I root for him, and I'm going to hire some 285 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,479 Speaker 1: of them. But there's this sort of just pay everybody. 286 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: You know, pay Dak, pay Zeke. Well, now the Cowboys, 287 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: you see what happens when you pay a running back 288 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: two years early, the Cowboys are bailing water Dak. He's 289 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: a B B plus quarterback. You see what happens when 290 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: you pay guys like that. So the Deebo Samuel is, Oh, 291 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: you gotta pay him. And my takeaway is a his 292 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: style will not age well period. Secondly, Shanahan leans into 293 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: that style. Third Kittle is already sort of a weathered player. 294 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, do I want Kittle and Debo to be 295 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: my two highest paid offensive guys? And I said this, 296 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: go look at the rams best players. They're always available. 297 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, Aaron Donald, Cooper Cup, Bobby Wagner 298 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: always available. Trent William's been hurt, Garoppolo has been hurt, 299 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: Debo has been hurt, Kittle has been hurt. I don't 300 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: think it's a slam dunk. I don't. I would struggle 301 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: to pay Deebo Samuel Well. I think on the big 302 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: picture there with the Rams and the Niners, philosophically, they 303 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: play a little differently, right. The Rams are more spread 304 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: it out, throw it around, Kyle Shanahan, which is ironic 305 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: because when you think young coaches in football, you think 306 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: throw it around the yard, score a bunch of points, 307 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, Sean McVeigh. Kyle is much more like Jim Harbaugh. 308 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: Wants to ugly the game and have a war zone, 309 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: and it's separated the Niners. You know, there are two 310 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: playoff runs too of the last three years, because they 311 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: come in like a heavyweight fighter Mike Tyson and teams 312 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: aren't ready for it. But they lose guys when it's 313 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: a little off, you lose these hardball called you know, 314 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: navorro Bowman, you potty guys shattering ankles and legs. And 315 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: it's happened a little bit. Kyle Shanahan's running backs drop 316 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: like flies. Yes, his dads did too, because he will 317 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: just hammer the run till the cows come home. But 318 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: I think what complicates Debo is the guys that got paid. 319 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: If you're just sitting in deebo shoes, you go, I 320 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: just carried the franchise of the playoffs. And he's not 321 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: totally wrong. We all witnessed it. You don't need to 322 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: be whether you're young or old. We want happen. But 323 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: all the guys that got paid. Stefan Diggs has dominated 324 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: from multiple franchises. Tyree Hill and Davante Adams are gonna 325 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: be Hall of famers on their resume. They've been doing 326 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: it now for a half decade. People had a ten 327 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: game stretch in twenty twenty Colin that was a weird year. 328 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: COVID they didn't have a sea play showed up out 329 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: of shape too. Now they like him, he's a good guy, 330 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: but it's like that's on his resume. So it's like, well, Debo, 331 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: we love you. You're a team leader, your team captain, 332 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: but you know I can't give you a seventy guaranteed 333 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: now we and he's offended when you offer him fifty, 334 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: but like, based on your resume. You only have a 335 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: one year of being a dominant player and your best 336 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: attribute you're not catching one hundred balls. You're running back basically, right, Yeah, 337 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: what do we say with running backs? Can't give him 338 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: a second cot. But this guy, he's a you know, 339 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: he's his personality. People love him. He's such a great player. 340 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: You can't get rid of him. They're they're in a 341 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: weird spot now. Is he gonna hold out? Is he 342 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: going to do what these players do now to hold 343 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: ind right? TJ. Watt did that last year where you 344 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: show up to be a good guy, but you don't. 345 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: Because if I was Debo's agent, I wouldn't allow him 346 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: to take another live rep for the Niners in practice 347 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: or a game. Right, there's just too much. The contracts 348 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: now are too big. Even if we sign a quote 349 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: unquote team friendly deal, we got to sign the deal 350 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: before we do it, which is a problem because the 351 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: Niners are breaking in this new quarterback. They're just in 352 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: a weird spot with this individual player who's a huge 353 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: part of everything they do. You know, it is interesting 354 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: on the Trey Lance front. I don't like his delivery. 355 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: I like him, I like his athleticism. He does have 356 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: a power arm. It doesn't look good at all. And 357 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: I contend they would have moved off Garoppolo already if 358 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: they absolutely knew he was the guy. So that leads 359 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: me to the obvious question. You're tied in here. They 360 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: have reservations about Trey Lance, right, Yeah, I think these 361 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: next two months, you know, when they're on the field. Now, 362 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: grant it's just shorts and t shirts, but just his 363 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: command of the offense, is running the offense. I mean, Kyle, again, 364 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: for a younger guy, is really an old soul. He's 365 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: much more like his dad, like Bill, very old. He 366 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: would easily play again with Jimmy Garoppolo if he doesn't 367 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: think Trey's ready. But Tray's gonna get the shot because Jimmy, 368 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: even though he's technically still on the team, is injured, 369 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: can't throw. It's all Trey. So this offseason I would 370 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: imagine Kyle's going to throw the kitchen sink at him 371 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: everything he'd learned last year and just evaluate the two 372 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: months of him running all the drills with all the reps, 373 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: and if he feels good going into the summer. Now, granted, 374 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: you know football, you're not in helmets and pad the 375 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: game's way different, but I do think he'll either he'll 376 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: feel better or he'll have his reservations, and then Jimmy 377 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: might stay. Okay, So I'm gonna throw something at you. 378 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't mean to make this very Bay Area centric, 379 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: but it's interesting because the Lakers, this is their seventh 380 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: losing season in nine years. There's no easy fix. Unlike 381 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: the NFL, where you can cut guys, move guys, trade guys, 382 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: you can't in the NBA. So you get rid of 383 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, you gotta inherit terrible contracts. I'll throw this 384 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: at you. The Warriors are in a tough spot. Clay 385 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: Thompson's not right and may never be. Jordan Pool is 386 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: about to break out as a star and they're not 387 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: paying him anything. If the Lakers called the Warriors and said, 388 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: we'll take Clay Thompson you get you need size, You 389 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: give us Clay Thompson, James Wiseman and a draft pick 390 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: because you can't figure out Wiseman. You'll need size. You 391 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: take Anthony Davis. Now they'd ask for Jordan Pool, they'd 392 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: never get him. But I think they have to figure 393 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: out what to do with Jordan Pool and I think 394 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: he's getting close to a forty two minute a night 395 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: player and Michael Thompson's dad in Los Angeles. So i'll 396 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: throw it to you. You're the Warriors, Geoman the Lakers. 397 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: We'll take Wiseman off your hands. He hasn't been healthy, 398 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: you can't figure him out. We'll take Clay off your hands. 399 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: You have to give us a first round pick, and 400 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: we'll give you Anthony Davis. Would you do it well? 401 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: I think if this was the NFL, you have serious 402 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: meetings and talk about it. But in the NBA, Steph 403 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: Curry wouldn't allow that to happen. And I think Clay 404 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: showed signs of life though he had a thirty six 405 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: point game a couple a couple of nights ago. I 406 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: just don't think Steph the comfortability with him and Draymond 407 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: that he still has a lot of Jews, like ultimately 408 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: the Warriors, the front office. You know, it's not Lebron 409 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: and Clutch, but I think Steph it's why Draymond is 410 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of untouchable. That's Steph's guy. Their history with Clay now. 411 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I also think the next couple of weeks, right, do 412 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: the Warriors make a run to the Western Conference finals 413 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: and Clay looks good, then it's off the table. Do 414 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: they get bounced in the first round? Then things get 415 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: a little weird because then you got Wiseman's in this 416 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: Greg Oden situation. Draymond had a comment the other night, 417 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: They're like, what do you think the rotation will be 418 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: with Jordan Poole and the playoffs him coming. He's like, no, 419 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: he'll be on the court. Draymond sees it like this 420 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: guy will all of us will play clearly. So it's 421 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, these devastating playoff losses and the Warriors have 422 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of great ones, but is this the 423 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: year when they get bounced in the first round and 424 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: now you get complicated. I don't think they want to 425 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: mess with an Anthony Davis because Steve Kerr, he's just 426 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: not into you know, guys out of shape, not really liable. 427 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, Clay, whether he's 428 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: eighty percent of what he once was, who knows. Maybe 429 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: it's a less than that. You know, you just go 430 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: down with the ship with that guy. Where Anthony Davis 431 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: is like Stephen care I was. I was told this 432 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: years ago that Jerry West was not a fan of 433 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. So you know, they were kicking the tires 434 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: when Jerry West was with the Clippers on a lot 435 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: of guys. And you know, Kawhi had an injury history 436 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: and could be mysterious, a little enigmatic. Anthony Davis did. 437 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: But I was told by somebody who I trust that 438 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: West was never a fan of Anthony Davis because he 439 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: thought Kawhi was tough, but he gets injured. He thought 440 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis gets injured, but he just didn't know how 441 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: much he loved the game. And that's what you're seeing. 442 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: So Rick Buker said the other day that when they 443 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: when he came back out of shape off the Bubble 444 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: Championship right there, and then Lebron's like, he's not the 445 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: guy like this, this isn't gonna work. He's like, we're 446 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: done when in championships here and and I do think 447 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: for Clay Thompson, which is understandable, right an Acle and 448 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: Achilles in twelve months, I mean, his love of basketball 449 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: is the last thing you could ever like. He is 450 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: gonna give everything, he hass loves it, just a junkie 451 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: if anything, it's you know, and I think they just 452 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: feel that if if he can get back healthy, maybe 453 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: next year they're even better, you know, but Draymond's getting older. 454 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: His style, Steph, you know, it's get banged up. Just 455 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard. These guys will have a lot 456 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: of miles on those legs, right. Um. I want to 457 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: go to the NFL Draft because generally I'm pretty wonky 458 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: on it. I love it. Um it's a weak draft. 459 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: It's it's a bunch of um. You know. It feels 460 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: like the first couple of rounds are a lot of 461 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: second round, late first round players, even the guys I like, 462 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think Aiden Hutchison is is gonna be 463 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: a really nice player. I don't think he's Chase Young. 464 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a Bosa. I don't think he's 465 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: t J Watt. And here I was saying this to 466 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: a friend the other day. A lot of bad teams 467 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: and bad front offices have multiple first round picks. So 468 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: take me into the as a former NFL scout. So 469 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: the Packers have two firsts at the end of the round. 470 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: Late first, they have no number one or number two receiver. 471 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb is probably a four. Alan Lazard's a four. 472 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: Amari Rogers the slot kid from Clemson is a fairly 473 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: weak three. He was like a return guy last year. 474 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: Metcalf solves a lot of issues. He's like Dez Bryant. 475 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: He scores a lot. You don't have to love his routes. 476 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: He's a freak. There's nobody like him, you know. He's 477 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: a little like Javon Curse when he came in. It 478 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: just there was nothing else like him on the market, 479 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: kind of like t O when he was young. It 480 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: just doesn't look like any other receiver. That's right, and 481 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: DK Minnesota Vikings weaknesses their corners. I don't think it's 482 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: a bear strength or a lion strength. So he could 483 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: really eat up that conference, more so perhaps than even 484 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: the conference NFC West. Would you move picks to get 485 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf knowing you'd have to pay him a fortune 486 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: in a year? Yeah, I mean, I think the people 487 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: I've talked about or talked to in the league, once 488 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: those guys got once, like Tyreek got traded and Davante 489 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: got traded, would you do the same thing for Dk Metcalf? 490 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: And the question is like the one thing with Davante right, 491 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: elite character and elite production. Tyreek, you know, for the 492 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: most part has been when he plays like there is 493 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: no question about his competitiveness. Yeah, he's been I mean 494 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: they've been the best team in the league for basically 495 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: four years running. He's been their second best player. So 496 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: you just you know, you've seen him at the biggest moments. 497 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: I think there are a question marks about DK. The 498 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: DIVA just once you pay him twenty It was thought 499 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: to be twenty million a month ago. Now you know 500 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: that number probably even higher. He's got twenty nine touchdowns 501 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: in three years. He's produced at a Yeah, he's very 502 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant. Jason Garrett told me this one. He said, 503 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to love his temperament or the fact 504 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: that he doesn't run every route. He scores touchdowns and 505 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: that's a lot, a lot, and that's Metcalf. He gets 506 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: to the end zone a lot. Yeah, because you just 507 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: his speed is a league I just go back to 508 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: John Schneider, and isn't the point of being a GM, 509 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: like ultimately the Russell divorce had to happen. Isn't the 510 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: point of being a GM drafting guys in the second 511 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: third round and landing guys like DK and then keeping 512 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: them in his prime like wouldn't you just want to 513 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: keep them till you figure out your quarterback situation. But ultimately, 514 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: whether Pete leaves in a year or whatever, and you 515 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: get John's got a pretty good chance probably of getting 516 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: another coach, you would say, And he knows them really well. 517 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: If he's willing to get off of them, wouldn't that 518 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: be a pretty big red flag Because for the most part, 519 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: Seattle always extended their core suite players. Now they broke 520 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: up with them pretty poorly, as we've seen Bobby Wagner, 521 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: Sermon End's weird. But they always got second contracts and 522 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: DKs earned it right now, you know Drew Lock if 523 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: you want to give him a chance to succeed. What 524 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: the other thing with John Schneider is he's always been 525 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: out of it, and I agree with them, is they 526 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: never have thirty two players on their draft board that 527 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: are worthy of a first round pick. So I historically 528 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: when they were good, they always traded out in the 529 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: first round because it's like, well, I'm drafting twenty seventh, 530 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take guy that I don't view as 531 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: a first round or then I pay first round money. 532 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: So he always traded back or for players now it 533 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: didn't always work out, but I understood the logic. So 534 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: part of trading Russell this year, which made sense for 535 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: him probably is I get a sweet high pick. So 536 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: even if I do trade back a couple of spots 537 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: to acquire another second, I'm still picking at fourteen or eighteen, 538 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: or I want to stay at whatever they're at nine 539 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: right of ten. So he's to me, he's got a 540 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: lot of wiggle room to really improve his team and 541 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: still quote unquote be competitive. And I don't think Drew 542 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: Locke's any good. But do they end up with Baker Mayfield, 543 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, which kind of feels like that's the only 544 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: place that Baker's gonna end up. And then you know, 545 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: Baker's just solid, and they have some talent around him, 546 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they could be somewhat competitive, right, Yeah, 547 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: I still you know, it's I said this the other 548 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: day that the California economy is sort of separated even 549 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: from New York and Texas. Now it's been the fifth 550 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: biggest economy in the world, you know, for a long time. 551 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: But they had a seventy five billion dollars surplus during 552 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic because of Netflix Zoom. Those are all California companies. 553 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Have you noticed how few stars marquee players now New 554 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: York and Boston have combined about seven and two or 555 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: hockey players in California. Now. We did a list the 556 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: other day. We stopped at twenty and didn't count Clayton 557 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: Kershaw because we combined fame and production. He was like 558 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: in the OBG class where he's obviously famous. He's passed 559 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: his prime. What do you make of the way the 560 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Rams are operating? I mean, Jesus, I heard they're in 561 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: on Honey Badger on the internet this weekend. What do 562 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: you make I said this the other day. Like in 563 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: every industry, it doesn't matter if it's podcasting, a real estate, politics, landscaping, football, 564 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: five percent of the people dominate. The Rams literally have 565 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: more stars on their roster than the entire Boston market, 566 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: including the Patriots, the Celtics, the Bruins, the Red Sox. Similarly, 567 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: in New York, if you take k D and Kyrie out, 568 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: maybe Aaron Judge, I mean, Jacob deGrom. There's not much there. 569 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: Is it the convergence of entertainment and sports which is 570 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: driving this? Is it Stan Cronky's wealth or is it 571 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: just guys want to come out and live in la 572 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of definitely the location. But 573 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: they are choosing to do this. The football operation right 574 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: San is not to me mandating. They signed Bobby Wagner. 575 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: They've had a philosophy which most teams are the opposite of, right, 576 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: the Packers, the Patriots, even the Niners a little more prudent, 577 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: a little more just take our time, Jeff Well, they 578 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: got really aggressive and then it worked. Well, once you 579 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: do something, it starts working. Right. I'm sure you were 580 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: doing analogies in your takes twenty five years ago, and 581 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: it's it's resonating like this is I gotta keep doing 582 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: this right where most teams hesitate to do that, so 583 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: they never dive into the deep end of the pool, 584 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: or they do it like the Seattle's done it, but 585 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: they've been burned. Right, The Niners did it with D 586 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: four a couple of years and got burned. So once 587 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: you get burned, you know, like I don't want to go. 588 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: Everything works for the Rams. I mean every you know, 589 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: every dice they roll on the craps table is rolling 590 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: their number. Dante, why wouldn't you keep doing it? Dante? 591 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: Fowler worked we thought. I thought the von Miller trade 592 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: was insane. A second and a third round pick, and 593 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: I get they ate all the money, so they paid 594 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: him like a hundred grand, but I thought he was washed. 595 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: Then he basically had a sack week eighteen in every 596 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: playoff game and he looked awesome, and then he parlayed 597 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: that in a fifty million dollars. I mean, it's just 598 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: so they're thinking, they just they can do no wrong, 599 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: and eventually it's gonna burn them. It's just human, it's 600 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: just sports. But right now, I don't blame them at all. 601 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: I keep doubling down in this philosophy because it's one 602 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: working and they're, let's face it, their coaches elite, they 603 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: have they have a quarterback, and as long as Aaron 604 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: Donald's playing at like a B plus level, how are 605 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: they gonna not be good on defense? And same with 606 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: having Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, I think it's also become a 607 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: bit of a rehab center that you come in with 608 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a bad rep. Dante Fowler, ob 609 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: j or you're washed von Miller. The culture, they don't 610 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: ask you to do a ton. They don't. They don't 611 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: ask obj or von Miller come in, make specific plays, 612 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: big plays late in key moments, and those guys, as 613 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, Kobe Bryant scored sixty is last game. What 614 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: von Miller can't do is give you fifty nine snaps, 615 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: but he can give you a fifteen in the fourth quarter. Well, 616 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: I think the two best coaches in the league we'll 617 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: save the last decade, right, Andy and Belichick. If you 618 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: went to play for the Patriots, you're just You're like, 619 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna suck, it's gonna be really hard, but I'm 620 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: gonna win a title and then once the Chiefs, And 621 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: he did it when he was with the Eagles too. 622 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: Like you go to Andy, he's much more inviting. It's 623 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: not as angry, but it's you knew you could win two, 624 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: so you would go to one of those two places 625 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: to like rehab your career and it would work and 626 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: you would win. The Patriots is more difficult, just because 627 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: you had to deal with Bill every day, and he's 628 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: just easier to deal with. Well, now, Sean McVeigh is 629 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: much more of the Andy descent, right of just nice guy, 630 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: easy to deal with as long as you again, you 631 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: got to be a pro and handle your business. But 632 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna win, and then the location you're going to 633 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: be in Los Angeles, and then you're seeing all these 634 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: guys parlay this into big money. It becomes a no brainer, 635 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: and they want you. That's part of it. The rams 636 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: are wanting all these players, like the backers don't want 637 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: Boby Wagner, right, you know, but a lot of teams 638 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: don't because it's I've been in these meetings. It's easy 639 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: to just hesitate on stuff like let's just you know, 640 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: slow play it relax because for the most part, historically 641 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: in the NFL, that is the right philosophy, right, it 642 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: is John Middlecoff three and out the volume. Great seeing 643 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: your buddy. You're crushing. We love you and we'll talk soon. 644 00:34:46,360 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: See you buddy, all right the volume. Make sure to 645 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: check out The Draymond Green Show. I brought Draymond Green 646 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: into the volume because one of the more entertaining voices 647 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: in sports, unique perspective understands behind the rope. 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