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Speaker 1: I've got the complete TikTok on TikTok folks, the wildfire

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Speaker 1: us understand all of this is Professor Michael Gerard. I

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Speaker 1: You've got to have the coordinative response from the federal government,

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Speaker 1: million acres. And get this, folks, more than forty two

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Speaker 1: thousand people have been evacuated as of Sunday, so uh,

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Speaker 1: Scott Bowden come in here just about just how how

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Speaker 1: nuanced and textured of the debate and a policy puzzle

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Speaker 1: this really is. Well, you also have over twenty thousand firefighters.

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Speaker 1: And if you've noticed that that these fires out west,

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Speaker 1: massive calamities that that take the whole layered approach of

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Speaker 1: proposition that manifestation of these larger, greater, bigger, broader fires

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Speaker 1: that we're seeing in the last ten thirty years have

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Speaker 1: The reason that's important is because if you reduce the

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Speaker 1: We may we may be able to reduce the impact

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Speaker 1: the fire and the economy and let's just put it

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Speaker 1: on positive there because we got we got it, we gotta.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the economy. I hate to cut

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Speaker 1: you off. I'm up against the heart South. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk more about the economy coming up with with

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Speaker 1: our all star panel that's coming up next. What happened

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Speaker 1: with the TikTok to you? I'm Kevin's really your listen

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Speaker 1: name to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin

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Speaker 1: Shirley on Bloomberg and one All five point h D two.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was having a good weekend. It's glorious,

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Speaker 1: the weather was great. I had some chili in my

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Speaker 1: crack pot, add corn bread that I made with some

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Speaker 1: jalapenos chapinos. I've really enjoyed it. And then bam, faster

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Speaker 1: than you can say, eight sacks. My beloved Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: whacked me right back in the reality as the Washington

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Speaker 1: football team defeated the Birds. They were up seventeen nothing,

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Speaker 1: seventeen nothing, and they blew it. I I can't you know.

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Speaker 1: I guess things must be getting back to normal or

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Speaker 1: some sort of normalcy around here if the Birds are

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Speaker 1: blowing a seventeen point lead. Do you believe this? My

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Speaker 1: name is Kevin Creli. I'm the chief Washington correspondent from

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and Form and Berg Radio. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to hold it against the panel, especially not Jack Kingston.

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Speaker 1: Are Republican insider and a Scott Bolden, a Democratic strategist,

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Speaker 1: former DC Democratic Party chairman, an attorney. Scott, I take

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Speaker 1: it you're a Washington fan and not a Birds fan.

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Speaker 1: You know, actually I'm a Chicago Bear fan because I

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Speaker 1: grew up in Juliet, Illinois. And I was thinking, as

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Speaker 1: you were complaining about your Philadelphia Eagles, how blessed the

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Speaker 1: their rookie dropped a touchdown winning passed, And I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: both of us, both you a Bear fan and a

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Speaker 1: Detroit fan, at various times, more often than not, have

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Speaker 1: had our our bad days in mudveal, as my father

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Speaker 1: would say, Oh, you know, I love that. I love

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Speaker 1: that because you know, and and the Philadelphia Inquirer, I thought,

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Speaker 1: just you know, I totally need it today when they

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Speaker 1: were saying, finally something we can all be equally angry

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Speaker 1: at together, we can agree in our anger about the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, and uh and and Carson went, don't even

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Speaker 1: get me. I see, I gotta stop talking because then

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Speaker 1: this then I lose focus on the show, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want to do that, all right, I not that show.

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Speaker 1: Class Football is back. Football is back, whether the fans

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Speaker 1: that they are not. I gotta tell you, was a

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Speaker 1: great weekend here, it was. And tonight we gotta root

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers. You know, we got to do our

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Speaker 1: part to make sure that you know, the Patriots aren't gonna,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. Um, all right, it's gotta cut you off,

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Speaker 1: and I apologize. It's your first time on the show,

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Speaker 1: and I interrupted you because of the breaks. So what

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Speaker 1: did you want to say about the economy, because it's

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Speaker 1: a great segue into these economics segments. What were you saying, Well, well,

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Speaker 1: people who are being relocated resources, public resources, and the

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Speaker 1: impact on businesses. Uh is also a byproduct of not

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Speaker 1: only these catastrophic fires, but also of the carbon footprint.

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Speaker 1: And so uh that was gonna be my indie sentence. Well,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden said that he called the President Trump a

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Speaker 1: climate arsonist. Take a listen to what Joe Biden said

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Speaker 1: when he spoke today from Wilmington, Delaware about climate change.

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Speaker 1: Here is these are unlocking crisis of our time. Requires action,

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Speaker 1: not denial, requires leadership not scapegoating. It requires the President

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Speaker 1: to meet the threshold duty of the office to care

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Speaker 1: to care for everyone. That was Joe Biden's being earlier

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Speaker 1: today in Wilmington, Delaware. He's really sharpened as a tax

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Speaker 1: jack in the in the in the in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days. Have you noticed that I have noticed that? Um,

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Speaker 1: maybe the teleprompters are paying off. I don't know, I do.

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Speaker 1: I won't point out like I want to put t

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Speaker 1: J I got a point out. I gotta point out.

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Speaker 1: And uh, this is from don't take my word for it, Scott.

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Speaker 1: This is the U S Geological Survey um that fires

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Speaker 1: actually peaked in nineteen eighties, that in the last forty

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Speaker 1: years fires in California have been declining. And that's the

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Speaker 1: US theological survey, the paper offered authored by Alexandra skip Hard. So, um,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm doing here at the close of the

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Speaker 1: science and I know, let me, I want to I

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Speaker 1: want to move to the markets. But I do want

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Speaker 1: to say that I know two of those firefighters who

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Speaker 1: are some of the sixteen thousand and seven folks, and

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Speaker 1: I gotta say those firefighters are heroes, heroes for what

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Speaker 1: they're doing, and that's something we can all agree on

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Speaker 1: because what they do and how they just I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's they're surrounded by danger. I mean they're literally

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Speaker 1: surrounded by flames and in the woods. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: of these accounts that people are are talking about and

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Speaker 1: the horror of what they're being surrounded by fire. It

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Speaker 1: this is this is a hurricane level of catastrophe that

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Speaker 1: is ravaging through our country. And and you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: the cause, you know, but but they've got to make

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Speaker 1: sure that these fires get put out. More than three

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Speaker 1: point three million acres have burned this year alone in California.

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Speaker 1: All right, the SMP five touched a week high before

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Speaker 1: pairing gains, while the NASDAC one D index broke a

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Speaker 1: second day amid a flurry of deal activity and signs

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Speaker 1: of progress toward a coronavirus vaccine. The reason I bring

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Speaker 1: this up is because the economy, folks, has really not

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Speaker 1: been what's driving the campaign trail, and Scott, I say

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Speaker 1: this respectfully, but that that plays to the advantage of

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Speaker 1: Democrats because this is the one issue where President Trump

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Speaker 1: is consistently out uh pulled Joe nominee Biden UH is

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Speaker 1: on the economy. So the more we're talking about wildfires,

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Speaker 1: the more we're talking about all these other issues and whatnot,

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Speaker 1: that benefits the Democrats. Does it not earn my wrong? Scott, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. But the economy is

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Speaker 1: tied to the coronavirus. The schools being closed as ties

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Speaker 1: the coronavirus. The health of this country and the two

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Speaker 1: people who have died all all deaths in the world

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Speaker 1: is tied to the coronavirus. And the polling shows that

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Speaker 1: the majority of American blame the coronavirus and indirectly the

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Speaker 1: deaths and the sicknesses of those loved ones. On how

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has handled it. He has not been able

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Speaker 1: to run from it, so he can't talk about the

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Speaker 1: the blame game that people sing and it's mishandling, and

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Speaker 1: it's so incredibly nuanced because if you go down to Brazil,

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Speaker 1: any country. They be they are there, they have just

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Speaker 1: as many cases in the United States. And here's someone

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Speaker 1: Uh and and because he and he's literally pushing for

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Speaker 1: the economic to be the economy to be reopen and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: It's really a study in contrast for how the Americans

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Speaker 1: have viewed it and then how how other countries have

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Speaker 1: viewed it. And I just quickly, we've gotta we've got

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Speaker 1: so coming up. We're gonna talk more about that, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna check in and dive more into this, because really,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating to see how different countries and

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Speaker 1: the political debates in different countries have really responded to

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Speaker 1: this but but, but Scott has nailed it in terms

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Speaker 1: of how the president has not been able to talk

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Speaker 1: about the economy in the way that they would like.

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Speaker 1: And really that's why the polls have been standing still

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Speaker 1: but getting a little bit closer in some of this

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Speaker 1: wing states. More coming up next to checking with Congress.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Surley. You're listening to Wimberg. You're listening to Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: Sound on with Kevin's to relate on Bloomberg and one

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Speaker 1: of five point seven m HD two. My name is

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Speaker 1: Kevin Siley. I'm the chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television

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Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Radio. When I was a kid, my dad

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Speaker 1: would always say in the morning, what's for dinner to night? keV?

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Speaker 1: What are we having for dinner to night? Kevi? He

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Speaker 1: was always thinking about the next meal. It's I guess

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Speaker 1: it's an Italian thing. I don't really understand, but uh,

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Speaker 1: I guess I have a point with this segue, which

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Speaker 1: is already going traumatically. I'm so hungry right now. And

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Speaker 1: Congressman Greg Stanton's on the line, and he's a Democrat

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Speaker 1: from Arizona here, of course, is also the former mayor

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Speaker 1: of Phoenix and Congressman, I'm so hungry, and I spent

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Speaker 1: a summer in Phoenix many years ago for an internship,

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Speaker 1: and you all have the best, best, best Mexican food

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Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life, and all I want

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Speaker 1: is a taco. You're a smart man if you come

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Speaker 1: to Arizona eat that great Mexican food. It's best in

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Speaker 1: the world. But believe it or not, we were recently

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Speaker 1: ranked by a trap magazine. Is awesome having the best

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Speaker 1: pizza in the United States of America, that's what that's

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Speaker 1: that's not true. I mean, wait, wait a minute, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, what what kind of pizza do they have

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Speaker 1: in Phoenix? Now I want pizza, But what kind of

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Speaker 1: pizza they are? Are you kidding me? It comes from

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Speaker 1: all over the country, So we have deep dish pizza,

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Speaker 1: New York style pizza. You have the thin crust as

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Speaker 1: wells because there's not a lot of original piece and

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Speaker 1: we get the best from all across the country at

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Speaker 1: one city. That's what makes this awesome. Congressman, I want

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Speaker 1: to talk policy and politics, but you know what they

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Speaker 1: call thin crust pizza where I'm from, and Delko a

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Speaker 1: cracker pizza needs to be thick. It has to be

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Speaker 1: deep dish, and it's got to be you know, like

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Speaker 1: a little bit happen now I want pepperoni. All right,

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Speaker 1: enough about this? What's going on at the fiscal stimulus

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Speaker 1: You guys are not even close to a deal. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's driving me nuts. But what take us behind the scenes?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, look, as you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: in the House Democratic Caucus and we're very proud of

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Speaker 1: the Heroes Act that we passed many months ago. And yes,

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Speaker 1: I know it was many sing goal, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that the bill that we pass to continue to

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Speaker 1: provide a plus up on unemployment, to continue to provide

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Speaker 1: more support for testing and contact tracing, which is so necessary,

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Speaker 1: and support for our state and local government, isn't the

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Speaker 1: right policy choice. On the Republican side, it seems like

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Speaker 1: they're fighting amongst themselves. As you know, Ms McConnell can't

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Speaker 1: really deliver a bill that we can negotiate from. And

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Speaker 1: that's really how you how you begin to have those negotiations.

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Speaker 1: That being said, myself and many others are telling our

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Speaker 1: leadership we've got to stay at the table, keep working

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Speaker 1: at the table, because getting a compromise on this is

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Speaker 1: still too important for the American people to walk away,

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Speaker 1: all right, So, I mean, just practically speaking, it's looking

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Speaker 1: like this is not going to happen before the November

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Speaker 1: three election. You're looking at a lame duck, now, is am?

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Speaker 1: I am? I off on this? Well? Uh no, I

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Speaker 1: mean you know, look, I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are suggesting that. But as long as we stay at

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Speaker 1: the table and stay focused on what's right American people,

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Speaker 1: and the American people keep demanding from their elected officials

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Speaker 1: here in Washington that a deal get done. I actually

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Speaker 1: I actually haven't given up hope. Uh. You know, once

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Speaker 1: once you once you kind of put people in a

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Speaker 1: room and say we're not going to leave until we

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Speaker 1: get a deal done, great things can happen, and it

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Speaker 1: is too important American people, particularly after after the election. Though,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to just get the timetable. Well, Look, as

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Speaker 1: long as we stay at the negotiating table, I think

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Speaker 1: we could reach agreement before. Look, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: make any you know, news in this regard because I'm

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Speaker 1: not in that negotiating room. That's really done by our

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Speaker 1: leadership within the House Democratic Caucus. But I think Speaker

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Speaker 1: Pelosi and Mark Meadows and Mitch McConnell really need to

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Speaker 1: continue these negotiations, uh between now and the election. And look,

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Speaker 1: if we stay focused in on what's in the best

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Speaker 1: interest of American people, I actually I am optimistic that

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Speaker 1: a deal could get done before the elections, alright. So

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Speaker 1: that so then moving on the other big item that's

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Speaker 1: on the Congress to do list, of course, is you've

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Speaker 1: got to keep the government open. What do we know

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Speaker 1: about the deadline on September thirty, Congressman Stanton, And you

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Speaker 1: think there's gonna you're gonna be able to avert a

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Speaker 1: government shutdown? Yes, I do think we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: avert a government shutdown. But look, you're probably gonna get

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Speaker 1: little both. Seeing here, I'm in the House Democratic Caucus.

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Speaker 1: We got our work done. We passed our budget bills,

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Speaker 1: we passed our appropriations bills in the in the due

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Speaker 1: course and the timeline that's appropriate. On the Senate side,

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Speaker 1: they haven't done so, so it's obviously makes it very

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Speaker 1: very difficult to negotiate. Do I believe realistically that we're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna run the government by a series of continuing

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Speaker 1: resolutions until after the election. Yes, on that one. I

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Speaker 1: want to be more realistic with your listeners that that

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Speaker 1: is likely how we're going to continue to get to

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Speaker 1: keep this government going and diverted government shutdown is not

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Speaker 1: by passing a whole new series of appropriations bill, but

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Speaker 1: continuing what we already have alright, fascinating, fascinating And then

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Speaker 1: uh just uh in terms of the dynamic of how

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Speaker 1: the vaccination process is going, can you just from your

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Speaker 1: perspectives as a lawmaker, are we at danger of having

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Speaker 1: this entire process being politicized or has the private sector

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Speaker 1: done anything that you think will allow for once there

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Speaker 1: is a viable vaccine for the American people to trust

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Speaker 1: it because that is so incredibly important, as you know, well,

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Speaker 1: of course, yes, obviously, we cannot have any sense that

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Speaker 1: people's concerns about their re election, whether Donald Trump or

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Speaker 1: anyone else, somehow has compromised the system of ensuring that

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Speaker 1: medicine that's entering the public marketplace is anything other than

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Speaker 1: fully safe. We have the FDA process there for a reason,

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Speaker 1: and it's so incredibly important that both the government appropriate

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Speaker 1: government officials as well as the private sector companies vouch

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Speaker 1: that this has been done the appropriate way. We can't

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Speaker 1: take shortcuts in that regard. No, By the way, I

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Speaker 1: would also add to that, what a shame it is

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Speaker 1: that we've taken ourselves out of the World Health Organization,

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Speaker 1: which is also helping to coordinate vaccine dissemination globally. It's

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Speaker 1: important that the United States be not just you know,

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Speaker 1: not be a part of it, but also be a

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Speaker 1: leader in that process. But unfortunately, this president has taken

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Speaker 1: us in the exact opposite direction in terms of world

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Speaker 1: leadership on the issue of vaccine development and vaccine dissemination.

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Speaker 1: So it really is, it really is remarkable. So we

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Speaker 1: do this thing on the show. Congressman Greg Stanton is

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Speaker 1: on with us. He's a Democrat from Arizona's ninth congressional district.

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Speaker 1: We do this thing on the show called What's on

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Speaker 1: Your Radar? And I was prepping for this, uh, for

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Speaker 1: this interview, I came across this new NBC News report

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Speaker 1: on Arizona's down winders. Now, for folks outside of Arizona,

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Speaker 1: many of them might not be familiar with it, but

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Speaker 1: can you just tell us what this issue is and

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Speaker 1: what you're doing to try to to push for for

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Speaker 1: funding for some of these people. Yeah, I represent the

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Speaker 1: urban Phoenix area. But the truth is that, um, this

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Speaker 1: is an injustice that's occurred in Arizona and Nevada. And

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Speaker 1: what happened is and you know, in the mid nineteen

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Speaker 1: forties up until the early nineteen sixties, the United States

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Speaker 1: engaged in significant nuclear testing in the in the the

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Speaker 1: in the desert area in the Nevada and the wind

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Speaker 1: would push uh the nuclear materials to other areas, including

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Speaker 1: to Mohave County in Arizona, including to Clark County in

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Speaker 1: UH in Nevada. And there has been a system set

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Speaker 1: up to give people compensation because so many family members

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Speaker 1: of people have died of cancer as a result of this.

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Speaker 1: But the truth is that many of the impacted families

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Speaker 1: were not included for a variety of reasons in earlier

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Speaker 1: compensation systems. So I said, you know what, I know

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Speaker 1: that happened decades ago. It's not even in my district.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, um, sometimes you've got to stand

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Speaker 1: up for the right thing to do and providing recognition

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Speaker 1: for those families that that the their loved ones and

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Speaker 1: too many of them have died unfortunately because of this tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Recognizing them and compensating them is going to be a

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Speaker 1: priority for me, and so I wanted to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we included all of the families negative impacted by

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Speaker 1: this nuclear testing from decades ago. So it's not the

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Speaker 1: biggest issue in the world, but it's one of those

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Speaker 1: things where it's just the right thing to do. Well.

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Speaker 1: It's a big they have confidence in the government, and

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Speaker 1: it's a big issue to those families that are impacted

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Speaker 1: because rica's scheduled to end in two and the Radiation

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Speaker 1: Exposure Compensation Act. I mean it really for those families

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, Nevada and Utah. Uh, it's incredibly, incredibly, incredibly important. Alright,

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Speaker 1: Arizona Swing State. It's not just about the money, it's

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Speaker 1: about the recognition that they were wrong. And that's that's

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Speaker 1: an important thing too. That is important. That's port Arizona

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Speaker 1: Swing State Congressman. Make sure you come back on and

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Speaker 1: keep us updated. I gotta say, hiking Camelback Mountain was

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Speaker 1: one of the best experiences of my life. I will

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Speaker 1: never forget it. Arizona skies are just the best. When

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Speaker 1: I when I went out there, I've never seen a cactus,

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Speaker 1: never seen the sky that big Arizona one of my

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Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful states in the country. So

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, Congressman for coming on and giving

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Speaker 1: us an update on all of these important issues. That's

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Speaker 1: Congressman Stanton. He is a Democrat from Arizona and of

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Speaker 1: course also the former mayor of Phoenix, Arizona as well.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we also check in with what's on the

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Speaker 1: panels radar. My name is Kevin Cirelli on the Chief

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Speaker 1: Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. And

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg one. You're listening to Bloomberg Sound

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Speaker 1: On with Kevin Curreley on Bloomberg and one oh five

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Speaker 1: points seven f M h D two. I'm Kevin Cirelli,

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Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: Panel with me for the hour. The Jack Kingston, former

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Speaker 1: Republican George Congressman, Trump campaign surrogate, the A. Scott Bolden

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Speaker 1: Democratic Strategies, former DC Democratic Party Chairman and at Serny Scott.

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Speaker 1: I mean you heard the congressman. He said that Arizona

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Speaker 1: is known for pizza. You know, I don't necessarily agree

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, you know, he's got deep dish, instant crush.

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Speaker 1: You called this a cracker, but you know, I'm from Chicago,

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Speaker 1: so deep dish at Geno's and and some of the

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Speaker 1: other Giodano's are just famous with Chicago. And then I

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Speaker 1: was a prosecutor in New York in the late eighties

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Speaker 1: and all it was was a thin piece of pizza

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Speaker 1: and you slap it together and needed like a sandwich.

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Speaker 1: And so is the really interesting that Arizona has all

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Speaker 1: of those? You know, well, I mean we got tomato

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Speaker 1: pie where I grew up in Uh, the only genos

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Speaker 1: I know, The only genos I know is a cheese

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Speaker 1: steak across the cheese steakstand across. Yes, yes, very much, Jack.

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Speaker 1: What do you think thin, thin crust or dinner or

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Speaker 1: deep dish? Definitely also disgusting, Scott, I need you to

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Speaker 1: join me. Let's turn on our husband minute, just for

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Speaker 1: three seconds. I had fun cambell Act Mountain and it

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Speaker 1: is a great hike, but if it were like a movie,

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Speaker 1: it would be very g rated. I'm talking about four

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Speaker 1: year old nine year olds. You are a hiker, I

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Speaker 1: know that, And I mean and he's talking about camel

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Speaker 1: back to thank you. Okay, I was just gonna say, Jack,

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Speaker 1: you are You're really coming at me, and I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to challenge you to a race, buddy, if that's you know. See,

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Speaker 1: I I don't want to be over competitive. We're working

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Speaker 1: on my competitive streak. Right. We acknowledge your flaws, but

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Speaker 1: you know, respectfully, Jack Kinson, meet me out on the track.

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Speaker 1: How's that back? I have no doubt, I have no

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Speaker 1: doubt that you could be me. But I ain't talking

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Speaker 1: back about Camelback Mountain. Don't you think I had a

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Speaker 1: rough monday? Don't you think I had a rough enough

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Speaker 1: Monday with the Eagles losing? Now I gotta take it

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Speaker 1: from the panel. Alright, Jack Kingson, what's on your radar?

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Speaker 1: You're up first? Um. You know, I'll tell you one

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Speaker 1: thing that that my my friend R. Scott would agree

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Speaker 1: with me on. Um is the polls are just very deceptive.

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Speaker 1: Um Uh. You know I'll say this. I'm afraid to

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Speaker 1: wear my MAGA hat in Washington, d C. You should.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid of my body that I'll get hurt. And

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Speaker 1: so why would somebody in a poll have a certain

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Speaker 1: you know, somebody call him out of the blue and

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Speaker 1: say who you're voting for. I'm just telling you I

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Speaker 1: think these poles are off. They were all off in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. Not saying that therefore you know

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Speaker 1: we've got it made, but I'm just saying, anybody who

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Speaker 1: can predict what's gonna happen in any given state or precinct, um,

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Speaker 1: they got swamp line to sell you in Arizona as well.

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Speaker 1: So alright, and so the poll, all right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I you know, I mean, it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: a question that every everyone should ask polsters is how

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Speaker 1: how have you changed since two thousand and sixteen? How

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Speaker 1: have you made an effort to tap into some of

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Speaker 1: the voters so you weren't able to reach in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen. All right, yeah, yeah, Well I think

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Speaker 1: Jack is right. I think Trump historically under poles and

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Speaker 1: will continue to underpoll. So Democrats are running like they're scared,

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Speaker 1: like it's a tired race, and we're telling our constituency

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Speaker 1: the same thing. What's on my radar? It's September fourteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the September I'm sorry, the October surprise.

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Speaker 1: What is that gonna be this year. We know in

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Speaker 1: it was the Combian memo. I tend to think that

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Speaker 1: that moved Independence and those undecided to Trump. I think

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Speaker 1: that what I'm going to keep an eye on is

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Speaker 1: the Bob Woodward tapes that are trickling out over the

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Speaker 1: next week or two or three with his book called Rage.

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Speaker 1: And then don't forget about Mary Trump's takes that are

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Speaker 1: trick now and she's got a book out. Those are

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Speaker 1: gonna trickle out up until election Day probably, and I

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Speaker 1: believe there may be an October surprise in those takes.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to see. Well, you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: because I was talking about this when I ran into

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Speaker 1: my buddy Daniel Littman uh for coffee on yesterday. You know,

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Speaker 1: I said, he I mean, listen, I'm not knocking Bob Woodward.

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Speaker 1: You know, as a journalism I don't. I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it, you know that's bad karma. But I

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Speaker 1: but I but you know, at the same time, this

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Speaker 1: is the second Trump book that he did. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what would name me one thing that stuck from the

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Speaker 1: last book, the last book. The last book confirmed what

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Speaker 1: we all knew to be the case, what we heard

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Speaker 1: and what we believed in what we felt, and so

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Speaker 1: confirmation from a journal an award winning journalists, I think

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Speaker 1: that does make a difference, if you will. It told

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Speaker 1: us that we were not all crazy. But the reality

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Speaker 1: is these tapes despite why Trump did them, well why

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Speaker 1: Mary Mary Trump did hers, I think it's a piercing

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Speaker 1: insight more into the Trump family, but also into Trump.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think we've heard, seen, or felt all

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Speaker 1: of that yet, despite the chaos president that we had.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what's let me let me jump in here, Bennette, I,

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Speaker 1: I frankly think where I mean ward winning journalists, Bob

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Speaker 1: Woodward as a partisan hack. Everybody knows he is a

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Speaker 1: a muckbreaker in Washington, d C. This do you remember

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Speaker 1: you remember that chicken suit for the soul book series.

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Speaker 1: This is just this is comfort democrats. It's comfort reading

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Speaker 1: for the Democrats. Nobody really out there who wants to

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Speaker 1: get their job back, who knows that the economy has

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Speaker 1: to come back, is worried about what Bob Warber said.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, what was Trump supposed to do

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Speaker 1: run around being a screamer and say, hey, this is leadership,

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Speaker 1: bull I had it. I mean Was he supposed to

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Speaker 1: go out to Chinatown with Nancy Pelosi and say everything's fine?

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Speaker 1: Was he supposed I'm not going to He could have

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Speaker 1: started by telling the truth, all right, and then into

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Speaker 1: fix it mode for the for the griller, the pizza,

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Speaker 1: Save it for the griller, the pizza. This is a

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Speaker 1: policy show, a gentleman, and what we just saw there,

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Speaker 1: I think it's really fascinating, folks, because it's really remark

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really just illustrates what the moment of

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Speaker 1: climate that we're in. You've got the left saying this

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Speaker 1: confirms what we knew, and you've got the right saying no,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't change anything. And so regardless of of anything,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's how Bob Woodwards book is being interpreted

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Speaker 1: by the left and the right. And so I do

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Speaker 1: think that is a fascinating snapshot that we just listened

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Speaker 1: to about the polarization in this particular moment. But you

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Speaker 1: know what's on my radar? You know what's on my radar? No,

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Speaker 1: not the Philadelphia Eagles, but they're they're on no one's radar. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: but Scooters Mayor. I always want pizza. I'm just taking

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Speaker 1: it from one slice to the next. That's how I

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Speaker 1: live my life, one slice to the next. No, Mayor Bowser,

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Speaker 1: Muriel Bowser, she's mulling. The DC Council is mulling new

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Speaker 1: requirements for scooters. The DC Council is considering new legislation

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Speaker 1: that would set new requirements to ensure dockless scooters are

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Speaker 1: deployed in all parts of the city and prohibited within

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Speaker 1: a certain proximity from schools. I'm i scooter. I flip

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Speaker 1: flopped on this, folks. I used to be very much

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Speaker 1: against them, and now that's how I get around town.

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Speaker 1: But quickly before I let you go, Scott, how would

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Speaker 1: you grade Mayor Bowser's handling of this summer in regard

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Speaker 1: the black lives matter? Everything um, in regard to everything. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a long summer. You know. We certainly put a

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Speaker 1: cap on the pandemic here. Our numbers did not get

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Speaker 1: out of whack because she'd demonstrate a strong leadership. You

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Speaker 1: can get a test all over the How would you greater?

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Speaker 1: Because I gotta go in thirty seconds, how would you greater? Greater?

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Speaker 1: B plus everything B plus Jack Kingston, thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: Scott Boldin, thank you as well. First time would you

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Speaker 1: come back on Scott, I will love to be here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: guy had back on with Jack that our flew back.

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Speaker 1: I'm not happening. No, there's no thin crust pizza happening.

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Speaker 1: There's no thin trust pezza happening. I'm Kevin Sirelli, chief

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Speaker 1: pizza correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. I

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Speaker 1: almost said Bloomberg Pizza, Bloomberg Radio. I'm gonna get in trouble.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg