Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker. So, folks,
Speaker 1: funny thing. Guess who just voted early but wants to
Speaker 1: eliminate early voting for everyone else in the country, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: As reported by Kamala HQ, they put up a clip
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump on Fox News speaking about how wonderful
Speaker 1: it was for him to cast his ballot early, and
Speaker 1: what a wonderful system Florida has, you know, the very
Speaker 1: same system that he doesn't want you all to have
Speaker 1: access to. I tell you that the hypocrisy is just
Speaker 1: so thick. It feels like why Washington DC in August?
Speaker 1: It is just unbearable. At this point, speaking of hypocrisy,
Speaker 1: can we talk about the fact that all of mainstream
Speaker 1: media Washington Post, New York Times, Politico and others got
Speaker 1: a tip on hacked emails of Donald Trump, and guess
Speaker 1: who decided not to publish those emails? All of corporate
Speaker 1: mainstream media, The very same corporate mainstream media that did
Speaker 1: decide to run a hit job in twenty sixteen that
Speaker 1: most likely helped Hillary Clinton lose the election to a
Speaker 1: known pussy grabbing, grifting, criminal. I just am so fucking
Speaker 1: done with mainstream corporate media. I know that I say
Speaker 1: this every single week, but I always have to show
Speaker 1: you exactly where the receipts lie. This is the same
Speaker 1: mainstream media that ran I don't even know how many
Speaker 1: goddamn stories on Hillary Clinton's separate server, her private server,
Speaker 1: her emails, but her emails, but her emails, but her emails.
Speaker 1: But when you have access to Donald Trump's emails from
Speaker 1: the same type of hackers, you decide not to do that.
Speaker 1: So there's only one thing that is clear to me
Speaker 1: and to the rest of the public, which is that
Speaker 1: corporate mainstream media is in the bag for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And that is where they have been right. Because again,
Speaker 1: where are all of the stories now that Biden has
Speaker 1: removed himself from the presidential race, Where are all the
Speaker 1: stories about Donald Trump being the oldest person to ever
Speaker 1: run for president of the United States? After his is
Speaker 1: our long ramble at mar A Lago that they called
Speaker 1: the quote unquote press conference where he went off on
Speaker 1: so many tangents where he was just recently with Elon
Speaker 1: Musk on that broke down place called spaces where his
Speaker 1: words were slurring and again off on tangents. Where are
Speaker 1: the calls about his cognitive decline. Where are the calls
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump not being fit for office? Where are
Speaker 1: the calls around his stamina since he hasn't been on
Speaker 1: the campaign trail? None of it right. So one can
Speaker 1: only say then that the idea which was planted by
Speaker 1: Republicans that somehow we have a liberal media is bullshit
Speaker 1: because if the media was quote unquote liberal, then we
Speaker 1: would have stories about Donald Trump's criminality, about his cognitive decline,
Speaker 1: about his emails, about all of the ways in which
Speaker 1: his son in law raped in two billion dollars from
Speaker 1: the Saudis as soon as he stepped outside of the
Speaker 1: White House, that there would be the same amount of
Speaker 1: coverage that Hunter Biden's laptop got, would be the same
Speaker 1: amount of coverage that you would see the actual money
Speaker 1: that Jared Kushner, Oh and the patents that Ivanka Trump
Speaker 1: got from China during her father's administration. But you don't
Speaker 1: see those fucking stories. There isn't wal to wall coverage.
Speaker 1: And so it's Republicans once again that run the media,
Speaker 1: that are sitting in the c suites that are deciding
Speaker 1: for you. What you should know versus what you should
Speaker 1: not know. And I will tell you, friends that this
Speaker 1: is absolute bullshit. And for so long we continue to
Speaker 1: say to ourselves, oh, no, Donald Trump like he you know,
Speaker 1: he's a criminal, this, that and the other thing. It
Speaker 1: is folks like myself in independent media and folks that
Speaker 1: are in the uh independent sphere that are the ones
Speaker 1: that are breaking out the news because if you leave
Speaker 1: it to the CNNs and the msnbcs of the world, folks,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know anything. So all I have to say
Speaker 1: and will consistently say, is that I want you to
Speaker 1: continue to support outlets like mine, outlets like Mary Trump
Speaker 1: media outlets that are giving you the news that are
Speaker 1: unfiltered and without the bullshit, because if you are relying
Speaker 1: on these other outlets to guide you through this election cycle,
Speaker 1: you are going to be left in the dark. I
Speaker 1: also want to give give a shout out to Governor Walls,
Speaker 1: who the Republican Party has not found a way to
Speaker 1: attack this man, and so they've tried now to attack
Speaker 1: his military service and to do what they did to
Speaker 1: John Carry so many moons ago. The funny thing is, though,
Speaker 1: that one we know that Donald Trump evaded the draft
Speaker 1: by getting his daddy to call into a doctor to
Speaker 1: get him a doctor's note about quote unquote bone spurs
Speaker 1: that no one in the Trump family has ever fucking
Speaker 1: served their country, has never done anything but served themselves.
Speaker 1: We know that jd. Vance has served his country, but
Speaker 1: not for two plus decades in the way that Governor
Speaker 1: Tim Walls has. So recently, Governor Walls was speaking at
Speaker 1: the Ask Me event, their conference where he talked about
Speaker 1: his military service, and this clip is going around and folks,
Speaker 1: I would encourage you. I am also doing a micro
Speaker 1: show on Mary Trump Media called Get Woke with Danielle.
Speaker 1: That is a short version video show on YouTube. So
Speaker 1: check that out because I did cover this there and
Speaker 1: you can subscribe to the channel and that show comes
Speaker 1: out on Wednesdays and Saturdays. But Governor Walls, you know,
Speaker 1: he said, no one who is brave enough should to
Speaker 1: put on a uniform to defend their country should be
Speaker 1: denigrated for that service. The only thing that you should
Speaker 1: say is thank you. And so in his message at
Speaker 1: ask Me, he said, and so to my opponent, speaking
Speaker 1: of jd Vance, thank you for your service, because I'm
Speaker 1: telling you that there is nothing that gets on under
Speaker 1: these people's skin more than decency and joy, both of
Speaker 1: which the Harris Walls campaign has in spades, and Maga
Speaker 1: has zilch. Coming up next, dear friends, my conversation with
Speaker 1: our friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, where
Speaker 1: we talk about the VP pick and we talk about
Speaker 1: where this campaign currently stands on the conversation around gun
Speaker 1: safety and gun control. Folks, you know that whenever had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to sit down with our friend, our in
Speaker 1: house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, we are always thrilled. And Jonathan,
Speaker 1: it has been a incredible few weeks in democratic circles
Speaker 1: since the transition from Biden to Harris, and when we
Speaker 1: last spoke, I'm not quite sure if we had a
Speaker 1: vice per residential candidate because I can't keep my days
Speaker 1: or hours straight. But since Governor Waltz has been rolled
Speaker 1: out as the VP choice one, I will say that
Speaker 1: on my end, I think that this campaign has been
Speaker 1: seamless thus far, and that is saying a lot. We
Speaker 1: don't get treated to campaigns like this that actually listen
Speaker 1: to the people, that react in real time, that are
Speaker 1: punching back in smart and funny ways, that are going viral.
Speaker 1: But I want to get your thoughts on the way
Speaker 1: in which this campaign is handling Governor Waltz and his
Speaker 1: gun record and being in a red state and kind
Speaker 1: of lifting it up as a counter punch to Republicans.
Speaker 2: Well, on one hand, I think it's great.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the fact that there are so
Speaker 3: many images of him hunting or in the military holding
Speaker 3: a weapon. I think it's important, right because a lot
Speaker 3: of time we just have this divide between like pro
Speaker 3: or anti gun, and I think that there's an opportunity
Speaker 3: here to trouble that a little bit, which I think
Speaker 3: is a great opportunity. So I think it's a better
Speaker 3: place to be and than we were a few weeks ago,
Speaker 3: and I think it's important. I think there are, as
Speaker 3: I've said for years here, you know, centrist gun owners
Speaker 3: who are just very susceptible to the message that they're
Speaker 3: going to come take your guns away and.
Speaker 2: Things like that.
Speaker 3: I think the caveat is that there's a liberal framing
Speaker 3: of guns and there's a conservative framing of guns. The
Speaker 3: liberal framing of guns is there are too many mass shootings.
Speaker 3: We need gun control, we need background checks and red
Speaker 3: flag laws and all that kind of stuff. So that's
Speaker 3: kind of our side, which is the kind of public health,
Speaker 3: let's reduce gun mortality kind of side. But the issue
Speaker 3: is that for the right, guns are linked to autonomy
Speaker 3: and crime, and so there was a move, as I
Speaker 3: write about in my book in the nineties, right, the
Speaker 3: Democrats actually tied gun control to crime reduction. That was
Speaker 3: the crime bill that is obviously very controversial. Now I
Speaker 3: had all of these mass incarceration outcomes, but that was
Speaker 3: also the time that we passed an assault weapons ban
Speaker 3: as part of that, and so Democrats kind of rallied
Speaker 3: around there's.
Speaker 2: Too much crime.
Speaker 3: And what's important to note this is kind of a tangent,
Speaker 3: is that in the nineties, black Americans were ten points
Speaker 3: on pulling more likely than white Americans to support the
Speaker 3: crime bill because they wanted an assault weaponspan. But what
Speaker 3: happened because that crime bill was so problematic, was that
Speaker 3: we kind of gave up on crime as a topic.
Speaker 3: Roughly speaking, now I know that what we're seeing as
Speaker 3: a reduction, what does.
Speaker 1: That mean that we kind of gave up on crime
Speaker 1: as a topic.
Speaker 3: When your interventions are red flag laws, for example, that's
Speaker 3: one of our main things. It's like your loved one
Speaker 3: is spiraling. They could go commit a mass shooting, they
Speaker 3: could commit suicide. That intervention is not going to be
Speaker 3: something that adapts to crime trends, homicide, robbery, all those
Speaker 3: kind of things. If you're looking at background checks for example,
Speaker 3: those are what are called point of sale interventions. When
Speaker 3: somebody goes and buys a gun, it's like they have
Speaker 3: to get a driver's license, their pass or a thing.
Speaker 3: But that again is for the quote unquote legal gun market.
Speaker 3: But most guns that are used in crimes are that's
Speaker 3: not impacting most guns or a crime. So we kind
Speaker 3: of moved away from crime because of its racial overtones,
Speaker 3: because of the racial effects, but it's opened the door
Speaker 3: for the right to say you need a gun because
Speaker 3: there's too much crime. And so I guess this is
Speaker 3: a very long winded way of saying what I've been
Speaker 3: writing about for a while, which is it's not going
Speaker 3: to be good enough. I don't think as a message
Speaker 3: to say we need common sense kind of reform and
Speaker 3: we have a guy who likes guns, but also we
Speaker 3: need background checks, unless you also have a convincing message
Speaker 3: about crime.
Speaker 2: You know they have one. Right now. Crime has been
Speaker 2: going down since the pandemic.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I'm like, you know, the
Speaker 1: messaging around crime is that one, it is an inflated
Speaker 1: talking point of the right because in major cities across
Speaker 1: this country crime has been going down, and crime was
Speaker 1: up during the Trump administration. And so what would be
Speaker 1: the talking point other than the statistics around the fact
Speaker 1: that crime is actually going down and has been going
Speaker 1: down over the last four years in comparison to Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's administration.
Speaker 2: That all sounds great. I'll tweet it out later today.
Speaker 3: I wrote a piece of this helping post, which is
Speaker 3: there's difference of saying, like I'm just set telling you
Speaker 3: that works on the right, is you need a gun
Speaker 3: because there's too much crime, or there's too many legal
Speaker 3: guns or things like that. And now the irony, of course,
Speaker 3: is that there are things that we can be doing
Speaker 3: that really hammer home how many GOP policies are leading
Speaker 3: to an increasing crime. One example is there's thing called
Speaker 3: straw purchase, Like somebody goes to a gun show, they
Speaker 3: buy a gun, they step outside and hand it to
Speaker 3: somebody who is not allowed to have a gun. So
Speaker 3: in Tennessee, we tried to block that and the Gop said, no,
Speaker 3: we're keeping that because it's an infringement on guvern even
Speaker 3: though like that's overwhelmingly the guns that are used in crime,
Speaker 3: guns in trunks and cars are very frequently stolen. And
Speaker 3: so I would just say that these are opportunities for
Speaker 3: the Democrats to hammer home crime, which is something that
Speaker 3: if you're going to impact the right and not mobile
Speaker 3: the mobilize the left. Keep talking about background checks if
Speaker 3: you want to mobilize the right. Put the Republicans on
Speaker 3: the defensive about what they're doing for guns that are
Speaker 3: increasing crime. In other words, co op crime as a topic,
Speaker 3: because I can just tell you statistics don't really hit
Speaker 3: home like you can tell people, oh, crime rates are
Speaker 3: going down, But if people don't feel safe in their neighborhood,
Speaker 3: or they're taking the subway and they feel unsafe, or
Speaker 3: you know, in Tennessee, there's plenty of areas where there's
Speaker 3: tons of crime, and so hearing oh, at an aggregate level,
Speaker 3: crime is going down, it doesn't really hit home to people,
Speaker 3: and it sounds like you're gaslining them. I think a
Speaker 3: lot of times if you use that as your main point,
Speaker 3: But I do think there's an opportunity to really nail
Speaker 3: the policies from the GOP that are leading to increase
Speaker 3: in crime and make them answer for those.
Speaker 1: So when you say the change of language is necessary
Speaker 1: in order to mobilize the right, you mean mobilize in
Speaker 1: the way to put them on the defensive, not necessarily
Speaker 1: in this kind of fairy tale place of Oh, they're
Speaker 1: going to come on our side because of the gun issue.
Speaker 2: No, we're going to in others.
Speaker 3: We got too afraid of talking about crime because of
Speaker 3: its racist overtones, and I think we need to overcome that.
Speaker 3: I actually think we need to talk about crime in
Speaker 3: relation to guns, and I think there's a way of
Speaker 3: basically making the GOP answer for their positions, which cut
Speaker 3: at the heart of gun owners who might come to
Speaker 3: our side, but crime is such an issue for them.
Speaker 2: Now there's the.
Speaker 3: So called illegal gun market, so a lot of guns
Speaker 3: are bought legally in places, and then it's called the
Speaker 3: iron pipeline. They are shipped to underground markets, to illegal
Speaker 3: gun markets. So I could say, let's close the loopholes
Speaker 3: between illegal and legal gun markets, which leads to gun trafficking.
Speaker 3: I just think like hammered those points because anybody who's
Speaker 3: going to support a background check. They're already ing for Kumalaris,
Speaker 3: but it makes it very easy for the right.
Speaker 2: And this is just about messaging. I mean, there's all
Speaker 2: these other things.
Speaker 3: You know, the na is going to put in billions
Speaker 3: of dollars for Trump, but they're going to do it
Speaker 3: by saying this guy was the head of Minnesota during
Speaker 3: George Floyd and they burned down the CBS and Baskin
Speaker 3: Robbins and stuff like that. So I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: go on the offensive now about that George Floyd thing.
Speaker 3: That's going to come and say, here's the loophole that
Speaker 3: led Kyle Rittenhouse drive into another state, and you know
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. So I would just say, like,
Speaker 3: seize the mantle of crime. Don't keep harping the same points.
Speaker 2: Now. I'm a little nervous about this because.
Speaker 3: I know, just you know, all just between me and
Speaker 3: you and our millions of listeners, that the Hairs campaign
Speaker 3: is being advised by a lot of great grassroots organizations
Speaker 3: who really care a lot about background checks and red
Speaker 3: flag laws.
Speaker 2: But I just think I just think, as I said.
Speaker 3: Before, it's time to like up the ante on that.
Speaker 3: And I think putting people on the defensive about crime.
Speaker 3: To me, is the way to do it. And I
Speaker 3: say this in part because I've interviewed hundreds of gun owners.
Speaker 3: I asked them, like, what does liberal messaging say to you?
Speaker 3: And this is the answer I get. And again, I
Speaker 3: think that are very clear. I mean, I'll just say
Speaker 3: this again. In Tennessee, they legalized what's called guns in trunks.
Speaker 3: You could carry a loaded gun in your trunk to
Speaker 3: work if you needed it for your smoke break, something
Speaker 3: like that, and all of a sudden, car thefts skyrocketed,
Speaker 3: all of.
Speaker 1: A sudden, Oh yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2: And people breaking into trunks. So it was totally linked.
Speaker 3: In Memphis, it was like some astronomical number of crimes
Speaker 3: were links to guns stolen from people's cars. And so
Speaker 3: there was a very clear and statistical correlation between this legislation.
Speaker 1: And right and they increase in crime and an increase
Speaker 1: in crime.
Speaker 2: And so I think there are a number of things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Again, the straw poll issue, crossing state borders, all these
Speaker 3: kind of things, all these things are linked to statistical
Speaker 3: increases in crime. And so I think it's time for us. See,
Speaker 3: I mean, crime is a real issue for a lot
Speaker 3: of people, and I think it's time for us to
Speaker 3: kind of seize that mantleback and do it in a
Speaker 3: way that puts the onus on these crappy gun laws
Speaker 3: that lead to crime, and in a way I just
Speaker 3: think we don't make the other side play defense enough
Speaker 3: about this issue. Because we're debating on this terrain which
Speaker 3: they're already, it's so easy for them to attack public health.
Speaker 3: I mean, look what happened during the pandemic, Like, oh,
Speaker 3: you want me to give up my gun to be
Speaker 3: in solidarity with these other people, Like it just ain't happening.
Speaker 1: I want to switch gears a bit and ask you
Speaker 1: with a couple of minutes that we have you about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's recent die a Try stream of consciousness press
Speaker 1: conference at mar Lago and then his recent sit down
Speaker 1: with Elon Musk on his Broke Down Spaces site. Many
Speaker 1: people right have been saying for quite some time that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is clearly incognitive decline. Now I know that
Speaker 1: you are not his doctor, so anything that you're saying
Speaker 1: is based on opinion, but also based on your medical experience.
Speaker 1: What do you make of what we have been seeing
Speaker 1: over the last several years, but really in the last
Speaker 1: year of Donald Trump's language, and I mean like his
Speaker 1: lack of ability to articulate like full sentences his speech,
Speaker 1: the fact that he is not campaigning and yet the
Speaker 1: media is not talking about his level of stamina versus
Speaker 1: Joe Biden just recently riding a bike around rohob with Delaware.
Speaker 1: But what do you make of what you've seen and heard?
Speaker 3: Well, again, I'm not going to diagnose him. I don't know,
Speaker 3: because so much of what Trump does is performative. I mean,
Speaker 3: I listened to like two minutes of that thing last night,
Speaker 3: and I'll just say that they were using the age
Speaker 3: hammer against us, and now we can use it against them.
Speaker 3: I hate for agism to be part of this, but
Speaker 3: that's just kind of where we're at. I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, you never know with Trump what is real
Speaker 3: what's performance, So I really can't speculate.
Speaker 1: But how I mean, how would you say that this
Speaker 1: performance would be, I guess a boost for him as
Speaker 1: opposed to a negative.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll admit it.
Speaker 3: I read the New York Post among everything else in
Speaker 3: the morning. They have a really good sports pace and
Speaker 3: the New York Post article was like trump Hammer's liberals,
Speaker 3: like there was nothing in there about reentering or slurring
Speaker 3: or anything like that, So it's really TVD. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, we know in the press day anybody can
Speaker 3: read off a teleprompter. And there was an article the
Speaker 3: Martion Post this morning that an oil magnet is giving
Speaker 3: tens of millions of dollars to Trump. All these judges
Speaker 3: are being so it's really kind of the structure around
Speaker 3: Trump and how are we going to use it? But
Speaker 3: I do think obviously the age and vibrancy issue is
Speaker 3: on our side right now, so we should use it.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, again, I've heard Trump member like he couldn't
Speaker 3: sip water and he couldn't walk up a thing, and
Speaker 3: it turned out to be a ramp during Dury's presidency,
Speaker 3: and then it turned out to not be real. So
Speaker 3: I don't want to speculate like what's real and what's
Speaker 3: a trap? I mean, he's an older guy, he's out
Speaker 3: of shape, overweight, all this kind of stuff, So there
Speaker 3: are certainly risk factors for all that, and I think
Speaker 3: we should really be thinking like do we want the
Speaker 3: hillbilly eulogy to be president? And so I think that
Speaker 3: there are real concerns about like the succession of power
Speaker 3: and do we want I think those are all totally
Speaker 3: fair game. And I think these these slip ups in
Speaker 3: public are opportunities. But again, you know, you counter that
Speaker 3: against his messaging to his base, which is I am
Speaker 3: the lord, I survived in this fascination attempt, I am killable,
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So so basically he's a vampire. Last quick question for you.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the hopefulness that we are seeing
Speaker 1: and experiencing and the enthusiasm is something that is sustainable?
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 3: So, I mean that's that's great. I think that's great.
Speaker 3: I think that the point has been made that and
Speaker 3: you and I talked about this a lot. A threat
Speaker 3: to democracy was not a very good rallying cry. It
Speaker 3: was too abstract, it was too negative to reactionary. So
Speaker 3: hope is a great frame for this moment. I think
Speaker 3: a lot will depend on how the convention goes. Hopefully
Speaker 3: people be ruined the same direction during during the convention,
Speaker 3: and and so I think I think that that's really
Speaker 3: the big issue.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Jonathan, my friend, we will leave it
Speaker 1: there today. As always, greatly appreciate you making the time
Speaker 1: for WOKF by everybody hanging there. That is it. From today,
Speaker 1: dear friends on Woke af AS always power to the
Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and
Speaker 1: stay woke as fuck.