WEBVTT - Is "Crime" a Four Letter Word?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker. So, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing. Guess who just voted early but wants to

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate early voting for everyone else in the country, Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>As reported by Kamala HQ, they put up a clip

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<v Speaker 1>of Donald Trump on Fox News speaking about how wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>it was for him to cast his ballot early, and

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<v Speaker 1>what a wonderful system Florida has, you know, the very

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<v Speaker 1>same system that he doesn't want you all to have

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<v Speaker 1>access to. I tell you that the hypocrisy is just

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<v Speaker 1>so thick. It feels like why Washington DC in August?

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<v Speaker 1>It is just unbearable. At this point, speaking of hypocrisy,

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<v Speaker 1>can we talk about the fact that all of mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>media Washington Post, New York Times, Politico and others got

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<v Speaker 1>a tip on hacked emails of Donald Trump, and guess

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<v Speaker 1>who decided not to publish those emails? All of corporate

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream media, The very same corporate mainstream media that did

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<v Speaker 1>decide to run a hit job in twenty sixteen that

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<v Speaker 1>most likely helped Hillary Clinton lose the election to a

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<v Speaker 1>known pussy grabbing, grifting, criminal. I just am so fucking

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<v Speaker 1>done with mainstream corporate media. I know that I say

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<v Speaker 1>this every single week, but I always have to show

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<v Speaker 1>you exactly where the receipts lie. This is the same

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream media that ran I don't even know how many

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn stories on Hillary Clinton's separate server, her private server,

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<v Speaker 1>her emails, but her emails, but her emails, but her emails.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you have access to Donald Trump's emails from

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<v Speaker 1>the same type of hackers, you decide not to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's only one thing that is clear to me

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<v Speaker 1>and to the rest of the public, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>corporate mainstream media is in the bag for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is where they have been right. Because again,

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<v Speaker 1>where are all of the stories now that Biden has

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<v Speaker 1>removed himself from the presidential race, Where are all the

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<v Speaker 1>stories about Donald Trump being the oldest person to ever

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<v Speaker 1>run for president of the United States? After his is

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<v Speaker 1>our long ramble at mar A Lago that they called

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote press conference where he went off on

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<v Speaker 1>so many tangents where he was just recently with Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk on that broke down place called spaces where his

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<v Speaker 1>words were slurring and again off on tangents. Where are

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<v Speaker 1>the calls about his cognitive decline. Where are the calls

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<v Speaker 1>about Donald Trump not being fit for office? Where are

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<v Speaker 1>the calls around his stamina since he hasn't been on

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign trail? None of it right. So one can

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<v Speaker 1>only say then that the idea which was planted by

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans that somehow we have a liberal media is bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>because if the media was quote unquote liberal, then we

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<v Speaker 1>would have stories about Donald Trump's criminality, about his cognitive decline,

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<v Speaker 1>about his emails, about all of the ways in which

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<v Speaker 1>his son in law raped in two billion dollars from

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<v Speaker 1>the Saudis as soon as he stepped outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>White House, that there would be the same amount of

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<v Speaker 1>coverage that Hunter Biden's laptop got, would be the same

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<v Speaker 1>amount of coverage that you would see the actual money

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<v Speaker 1>that Jared Kushner, Oh and the patents that Ivanka Trump

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<v Speaker 1>got from China during her father's administration. But you don't

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<v Speaker 1>see those fucking stories. There isn't wal to wall coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's Republicans once again that run the media,

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<v Speaker 1>that are sitting in the c suites that are deciding

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<v Speaker 1>for you. What you should know versus what you should

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<v Speaker 1>not know. And I will tell you, friends that this

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<v Speaker 1>is absolute bullshit. And for so long we continue to

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<v Speaker 1>say to ourselves, oh, no, Donald Trump like he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a criminal, this, that and the other thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>is folks like myself in independent media and folks that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the uh independent sphere that are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that are breaking out the news because if you leave

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<v Speaker 1>it to the CNNs and the msnbcs of the world, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't know anything. So all I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>and will consistently say, is that I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to support outlets like mine, outlets like Mary Trump

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<v Speaker 1>media outlets that are giving you the news that are

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<v Speaker 1>unfiltered and without the bullshit, because if you are relying

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<v Speaker 1>on these other outlets to guide you through this election cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to be left in the dark. I

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<v Speaker 1>also want to give give a shout out to Governor Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>who the Republican Party has not found a way to

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<v Speaker 1>attack this man, and so they've tried now to attack

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<v Speaker 1>his military service and to do what they did to

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<v Speaker 1>John Carry so many moons ago. The funny thing is, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that one we know that Donald Trump evaded the draft

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<v Speaker 1>by getting his daddy to call into a doctor to

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<v Speaker 1>get him a doctor's note about quote unquote bone spurs

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<v Speaker 1>that no one in the Trump family has ever fucking

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<v Speaker 1>served their country, has never done anything but served themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that jd. Vance has served his country, but

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<v Speaker 1>not for two plus decades in the way that Governor

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Walls has. So recently, Governor Walls was speaking at

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<v Speaker 1>the Ask Me event, their conference where he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>his military service, and this clip is going around and folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I would encourage you. I am also doing a micro

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<v Speaker 1>show on Mary Trump Media called Get Woke with Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a short version video show on YouTube. So

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<v Speaker 1>check that out because I did cover this there and

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<v Speaker 1>you can subscribe to the channel and that show comes

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<v Speaker 1>out on Wednesdays and Saturdays. But Governor Walls, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, no one who is brave enough should to

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<v Speaker 1>put on a uniform to defend their country should be

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<v Speaker 1>denigrated for that service. The only thing that you should

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<v Speaker 1>say is thank you. And so in his message at

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<v Speaker 1>ask Me, he said, and so to my opponent, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of jd Vance, thank you for your service, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you that there is nothing that gets on under

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<v Speaker 1>these people's skin more than decency and joy, both of

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<v Speaker 1>which the Harris Walls campaign has in spades, and Maga

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<v Speaker 1>has zilch. Coming up next, dear friends, my conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>our friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, where

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the VP pick and we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>where this campaign currently stands on the conversation around gun

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<v Speaker 1>safety and gun control. Folks, you know that whenever had

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to sit down with our friend, our in

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<v Speaker 1>house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, we are always thrilled. And Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been a incredible few weeks in democratic circles

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<v Speaker 1>since the transition from Biden to Harris, and when we

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<v Speaker 1>last spoke, I'm not quite sure if we had a

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<v Speaker 1>vice per residential candidate because I can't keep my days

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<v Speaker 1>or hours straight. But since Governor Waltz has been rolled

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<v Speaker 1>out as the VP choice one, I will say that

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<v Speaker 1>on my end, I think that this campaign has been

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<v Speaker 1>seamless thus far, and that is saying a lot. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't get treated to campaigns like this that actually listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the people, that react in real time, that are

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<v Speaker 1>punching back in smart and funny ways, that are going viral.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to get your thoughts on the way

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<v Speaker 1>in which this campaign is handling Governor Waltz and his

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<v Speaker 1>gun record and being in a red state and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lifting it up as a counter punch to Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, on one hand, I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think the fact that there are so

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<v Speaker 3>many images of him hunting or in the military holding

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<v Speaker 3>a weapon. I think it's important, right because a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of time we just have this divide between like pro

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<v Speaker 3>or anti gun, and I think that there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>here to trouble that a little bit, which I think

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<v Speaker 3>is a great opportunity. So I think it's a better

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<v Speaker 3>place to be and than we were a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's important. I think there are, as

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<v Speaker 3>I've said for years here, you know, centrist gun owners

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<v Speaker 3>who are just very susceptible to the message that they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to come take your guns away and.

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<v Speaker 2>Things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the caveat is that there's a liberal framing

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<v Speaker 3>of guns and there's a conservative framing of guns. The

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<v Speaker 3>liberal framing of guns is there are too many mass shootings.

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<v Speaker 3>We need gun control, we need background checks and red

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<v Speaker 3>flag laws and all that kind of stuff. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of our side, which is the kind of public health,

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<v Speaker 3>let's reduce gun mortality kind of side. But the issue

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<v Speaker 3>is that for the right, guns are linked to autonomy

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<v Speaker 3>and crime, and so there was a move, as I

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<v Speaker 3>write about in my book in the nineties, right, the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats actually tied gun control to crime reduction. That was

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<v Speaker 3>the crime bill that is obviously very controversial. Now I

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<v Speaker 3>had all of these mass incarceration outcomes, but that was

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<v Speaker 3>also the time that we passed an assault weapons ban

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<v Speaker 3>as part of that, and so Democrats kind of rallied

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<v Speaker 3>around there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Too much crime.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's important to note this is kind of a tangent,

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<v Speaker 3>is that in the nineties, black Americans were ten points

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<v Speaker 3>on pulling more likely than white Americans to support the

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<v Speaker 3>crime bill because they wanted an assault weaponspan. But what

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<v Speaker 3>happened because that crime bill was so problematic, was that

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of gave up on crime as a topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Roughly speaking, now I know that what we're seeing as

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<v Speaker 3>a reduction, what does.

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<v Speaker 1>That mean that we kind of gave up on crime

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<v Speaker 1>as a topic.

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<v Speaker 3>When your interventions are red flag laws, for example, that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of our main things. It's like your loved one

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<v Speaker 3>is spiraling. They could go commit a mass shooting, they

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<v Speaker 3>could commit suicide. That intervention is not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>something that adapts to crime trends, homicide, robbery, all those

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<v Speaker 3>kind of things. If you're looking at background checks for example,

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<v Speaker 3>those are what are called point of sale interventions. When

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<v Speaker 3>somebody goes and buys a gun, it's like they have

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<v Speaker 3>to get a driver's license, their pass or a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But that again is for the quote unquote legal gun market.

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<v Speaker 3>But most guns that are used in crimes are that's

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<v Speaker 3>not impacting most guns or a crime. So we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of moved away from crime because of its racial overtones,

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<v Speaker 3>because of the racial effects, but it's opened the door

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<v Speaker 3>for the right to say you need a gun because

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<v Speaker 3>there's too much crime. And so I guess this is

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<v Speaker 3>a very long winded way of saying what I've been

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<v Speaker 3>writing about for a while, which is it's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be good enough. I don't think as a message

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<v Speaker 3>to say we need common sense kind of reform and

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<v Speaker 3>we have a guy who likes guns, but also we

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<v Speaker 3>need background checks, unless you also have a convincing message

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<v Speaker 3>about crime.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they have one. Right now. Crime has been

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<v Speaker 2>going down since the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, I'm like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>messaging around crime is that one, it is an inflated

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<v Speaker 1>talking point of the right because in major cities across

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<v Speaker 1>this country crime has been going down, and crime was

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<v Speaker 1>up during the Trump administration. And so what would be

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<v Speaker 1>the talking point other than the statistics around the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that crime is actually going down and has been going

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<v Speaker 1>down over the last four years in comparison to Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's administration.

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<v Speaker 2>That all sounds great. I'll tweet it out later today.

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote a piece of this helping post, which is

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<v Speaker 3>there's difference of saying, like I'm just set telling you

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<v Speaker 3>that works on the right, is you need a gun

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<v Speaker 3>because there's too much crime, or there's too many legal

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<v Speaker 3>guns or things like that. And now the irony, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>is that there are things that we can be doing

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<v Speaker 3>that really hammer home how many GOP policies are leading

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<v Speaker 3>to an increasing crime. One example is there's thing called

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<v Speaker 3>straw purchase, Like somebody goes to a gun show, they

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<v Speaker 3>buy a gun, they step outside and hand it to

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who is not allowed to have a gun. So

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<v Speaker 3>in Tennessee, we tried to block that and the Gop said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we're keeping that because it's an infringement on guvern even

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<v Speaker 3>though like that's overwhelmingly the guns that are used in crime,

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<v Speaker 3>guns in trunks and cars are very frequently stolen. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I would just say that these are opportunities for

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats to hammer home crime, which is something that

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to impact the right and not mobile

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<v Speaker 3>the mobilize the left. Keep talking about background checks if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to mobilize the right. Put the Republicans on

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<v Speaker 3>the defensive about what they're doing for guns that are

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<v Speaker 3>increasing crime. In other words, co op crime as a topic,

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<v Speaker 3>because I can just tell you statistics don't really hit

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<v Speaker 3>home like you can tell people, oh, crime rates are

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<v Speaker 3>going down, But if people don't feel safe in their neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 3>or they're taking the subway and they feel unsafe, or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in Tennessee, there's plenty of areas where there's

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<v Speaker 3>tons of crime, and so hearing oh, at an aggregate level,

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<v Speaker 3>crime is going down, it doesn't really hit home to people,

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<v Speaker 3>and it sounds like you're gaslining them. I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times if you use that as your main point,

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think there's an opportunity to really nail

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<v Speaker 3>the policies from the GOP that are leading to increase

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<v Speaker 3>in crime and make them answer for those.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you say the change of language is necessary

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<v Speaker 1>in order to mobilize the right, you mean mobilize in

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<v Speaker 1>the way to put them on the defensive, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>in this kind of fairy tale place of Oh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to come on our side because of the gun issue.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're going to in others.

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<v Speaker 3>We got too afraid of talking about crime because of

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<v Speaker 3>its racist overtones, and I think we need to overcome that.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually think we need to talk about crime in

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<v Speaker 3>relation to guns, and I think there's a way of

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<v Speaker 3>basically making the GOP answer for their positions, which cut

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<v Speaker 3>at the heart of gun owners who might come to

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<v Speaker 3>our side, but crime is such an issue for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's the.

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<v Speaker 3>So called illegal gun market, so a lot of guns

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<v Speaker 3>are bought legally in places, and then it's called the

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<v Speaker 3>iron pipeline. They are shipped to underground markets, to illegal

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<v Speaker 3>gun markets. So I could say, let's close the loopholes

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<v Speaker 3>between illegal and legal gun markets, which leads to gun trafficking.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think like hammered those points because anybody who's

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<v Speaker 3>going to support a background check. They're already ing for Kumalaris,

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<v Speaker 3>but it makes it very easy for the right.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just about messaging. I mean, there's all

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<v Speaker 2>these other things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the na is going to put in billions

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars for Trump, but they're going to do it

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<v Speaker 3>by saying this guy was the head of Minnesota during

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<v Speaker 3>George Floyd and they burned down the CBS and Baskin

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<v Speaker 3>Robbins and stuff like that. So I'm just saying, like,

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<v Speaker 3>go on the offensive now about that George Floyd thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's going to come and say, here's the loophole that

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<v Speaker 3>led Kyle Rittenhouse drive into another state, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing. So I would just say, like,

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<v Speaker 3>seize the mantle of crime. Don't keep harping the same points.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I'm a little nervous about this because.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, just you know, all just between me and

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<v Speaker 3>you and our millions of listeners, that the Hairs campaign

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<v Speaker 3>is being advised by a lot of great grassroots organizations

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<v Speaker 3>who really care a lot about background checks and red

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<v Speaker 3>flag laws.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think I just think, as I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Before, it's time to like up the ante on that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think putting people on the defensive about crime.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, is the way to do it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>say this in part because I've interviewed hundreds of gun owners.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked them, like, what does liberal messaging say to you?

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the answer I get. And again, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that are very clear. I mean, I'll just say

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<v Speaker 3>this again. In Tennessee, they legalized what's called guns in trunks.

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<v Speaker 3>You could carry a loaded gun in your trunk to

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<v Speaker 3>work if you needed it for your smoke break, something

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<v Speaker 3>like that, and all of a sudden, car thefts skyrocketed,

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<v Speaker 3>all of.

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<v Speaker 1>A sudden, Oh yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And people breaking into trunks. So it was totally linked.

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<v Speaker 3>In Memphis, it was like some astronomical number of crimes

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<v Speaker 3>were links to guns stolen from people's cars. And so

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<v Speaker 3>there was a very clear and statistical correlation between this legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>And right and they increase in crime and an increase

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<v Speaker 1>in crime.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think there are a number of things

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, the straw poll issue, crossing state borders, all these

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<v Speaker 3>kind of things, all these things are linked to statistical

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<v Speaker 3>increases in crime. And so I think it's time for us. See,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, crime is a real issue for a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, and I think it's time for us to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of seize that mantleback and do it in a

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<v Speaker 3>way that puts the onus on these crappy gun laws

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<v Speaker 3>that lead to crime, and in a way I just

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<v Speaker 3>think we don't make the other side play defense enough

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<v Speaker 3>about this issue. Because we're debating on this terrain which

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<v Speaker 3>they're already, it's so easy for them to attack public health.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look what happened during the pandemic, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you want me to give up my gun to be

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<v Speaker 3>in solidarity with these other people, Like it just ain't happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to switch gears a bit and ask you

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of minutes that we have you about

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's recent die a Try stream of consciousness press

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<v Speaker 1>conference at mar Lago and then his recent sit down

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<v Speaker 1>with Elon Musk on his Broke Down Spaces site. Many

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.000
<v Speaker 1>people right have been saying for quite some time that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is clearly incognitive decline. Now I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you are not his doctor, so anything that you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>is based on opinion, but also based on your medical experience.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of what we have been seeing

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<v Speaker 1>over the last several years, but really in the last

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<v Speaker 1>year of Donald Trump's language, and I mean like his

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<v Speaker 1>lack of ability to articulate like full sentences his speech,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he is not campaigning and yet the

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<v Speaker 1>media is not talking about his level of stamina versus

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden just recently riding a bike around rohob with Delaware.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you make of what you've seen and heard?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, again, I'm not going to diagnose him. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>because so much of what Trump does is performative. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to like two minutes of that thing last night,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll just say that they were using the age

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<v Speaker 3>hammer against us, and now we can use it against them.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate for agism to be part of this, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's just kind of where we're at. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you never know with Trump what is real

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<v Speaker 3>what's performance, So I really can't speculate.

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<v Speaker 1>But how I mean, how would you say that this

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<v Speaker 1>performance would be, I guess a boost for him as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to a negative.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll admit it.

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<v Speaker 3>I read the New York Post among everything else in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning. They have a really good sports pace and

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Post article was like trump Hammer's liberals,

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<v Speaker 3>like there was nothing in there about reentering or slurring

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<v Speaker 3>or anything like that, So it's really TVD. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we know in the press day anybody can

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<v Speaker 3>read off a teleprompter. And there was an article the

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<v Speaker 3>Martion Post this morning that an oil magnet is giving

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<v Speaker 3>tens of millions of dollars to Trump. All these judges

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<v Speaker 3>are being so it's really kind of the structure around

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<v Speaker 3>Trump and how are we going to use it? But

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<v Speaker 3>I do think obviously the age and vibrancy issue is

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<v Speaker 3>on our side right now, so we should use it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, again, I've heard Trump member like he couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>sip water and he couldn't walk up a thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>it turned out to be a ramp during Dury's presidency,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it turned out to not be real. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to speculate like what's real and what's

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<v Speaker 3>a trap? I mean, he's an older guy, he's out

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<v Speaker 3>of shape, overweight, all this kind of stuff, So there

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<v Speaker 3>are certainly risk factors for all that, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>we should really be thinking like do we want the

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<v Speaker 3>hillbilly eulogy to be president? And so I think that

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<v Speaker 3>there are real concerns about like the succession of power

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<v Speaker 3>and do we want I think those are all totally

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<v Speaker 3>fair game. And I think these these slip ups in

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<v Speaker 3>public are opportunities. But again, you know, you counter that

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<v Speaker 3>against his messaging to his base, which is I am

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<v Speaker 3>the lord, I survived in this fascination attempt, I am killable,

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<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So so basically he's a vampire. Last quick question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the hopefulness that we are seeing

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<v Speaker 1>and experiencing and the enthusiasm is something that is sustainable?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I mean that's that's great. I think that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the point has been made that and

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<v Speaker 3>you and I talked about this a lot. A threat

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<v Speaker 3>to democracy was not a very good rallying cry. It

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<v Speaker 3>was too abstract, it was too negative to reactionary. So

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<v Speaker 3>hope is a great frame for this moment. I think

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<v Speaker 3>a lot will depend on how the convention goes. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>people be ruined the same direction during during the convention,

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<v Speaker 3>and and so I think I think that that's really

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<v Speaker 3>the big issue.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, Jonathan, my friend, we will leave it

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<v Speaker 1>there today. As always, greatly appreciate you making the time

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<v Speaker 1>for WOKF by everybody hanging there. That is it. From today,

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<v Speaker 1>dear friends on Woke af AS always power to the

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<v Speaker 1>people and to all the people. Power, get woke and

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<v Speaker 1>stay woke as fuck.