WEBVTT - Boundaries: It’s Time To Stop Dancing With Dysfunction (Lysa TerKeurst)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Elevation, I am so glad that you are worshiping

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<v Speaker 1>with us today. The Psalmist said, I was glad when

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<v Speaker 1>they said, unto me, let us go to the House

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lord. I know that you're happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>here today, no matter how you're watching, whether you're joining

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<v Speaker 1>us online or you're here at one of our campuses,

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<v Speaker 1>today is a very special day. Every time we come together,

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<v Speaker 1>it's special because there's nothing like gathering together with God's people.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lord is here with us. But today is extra

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<v Speaker 1>special because today is our pastor's birthday. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, the older this man gets, the better he gets,

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<v Speaker 1>the wiser he gets. Each year his preaching gets better.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how that's possible. And I must

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<v Speaker 1>say I think he's getting more ripped with each year too.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say that I just did okay? But in

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<v Speaker 1>a chat, if you're watching with us online, happy birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>Pastor Stephen, and if you're sitting one of our campuses,

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<v Speaker 1>look at your neighbor and say, how about this new series.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling extra blessed because the first few weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>the year we got to learn how to do the

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<v Speaker 1>new you, and then last week Stephen told us that

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<v Speaker 1>in the coming weeks he's going to be using the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Joshua to show us there's more to the story. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on fire last week forward not finished. If

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<v Speaker 1>you missed it, you gotta catch up. I told you

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<v Speaker 1>he gets better with age. So today we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to make the birthday boy preach, but we do have

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<v Speaker 1>a special treat for you. My dear friend Lisa Turkis

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be bringing the message today. Lisa is

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<v Speaker 1>no stranger to Elevation. She actually lives here in Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>and she joins us at Elevation when she's not out

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<v Speaker 1>preaching at other churches and doing events. She's the president

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<v Speaker 1>of Proverbs thirty one Ministries and the author of more

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty five books. She just released her newest book

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<v Speaker 1>called Good Boundaries and Goodbyes, and I cannot wait to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what the Lord has laid on her heart to

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<v Speaker 1>teach us today. So will you put your hands together

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<v Speaker 1>and help me welcome Lisa to the seat. Hi, well, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning, good morning. What a joy it is to

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<v Speaker 1>be here with you. You guys can be seated. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>It's such an honor to be here. At my home

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<v Speaker 1>church speaking, and I'll be honest, I am kind of

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<v Speaker 1>relieved Pastor Stephen's not seated on the front row. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I speak everywhere, but when I speak and he's seated

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of me, that's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a daunting situation. So although he did text me and

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<v Speaker 1>say he's watching online, so then it kind of killed

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<v Speaker 1>my relaxation with all of that. So, Pastor Stephen, wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching from, I just say happy birthday to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you, thank you for what you give us

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<v Speaker 1>each week, and thank you for just being an incredible leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we all thank Pastor Stephen one more time? So

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<v Speaker 1>today I'm going to be talking about boundaries, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can't talk about boundaries unless we talk about dysfunction, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And how many of us dance with dysfunction in our relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the thing about dysfunction. We all have it.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's I could literally just hand the microphone down

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<v Speaker 1>here and you could tell me about your dysfunction and

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<v Speaker 1>in your family. You could tell me about the dysfunctions

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<v Speaker 1>in your family, and you know you certainly could too.

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<v Speaker 1>We could just keep passing around the microphone and if

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<v Speaker 1>we got to someone and they said, no, absolutely, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no dysfunction. They might be the dysfunction. So we

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to do that. But where there's dysfunction,

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<v Speaker 1>there's often chaos. And where there is chaos, that's an

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<v Speaker 1>indication that there is a need for a boundary in

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<v Speaker 1>our relationships. Now, I know a lot of us hear

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<v Speaker 1>the word boundary and or attempted to just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>cross our arms and push back a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get it because I would have thought the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing before I studied boundaries like I have for the

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<v Speaker 1>past many years. And here's why, Because I think many

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<v Speaker 1>of us have had boundaries used in unhelpful and unhealthy ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you've had somebody try to put a boundary on

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<v Speaker 1>you to try to control you, or to try to

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate you, or to try to punish you. And so

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we hear the word boundary, we take this step

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<v Speaker 1>back and we just think, no, somebody did that to

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<v Speaker 1>me once and it was utterly detrimental to my relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe some of us we've tried to implement boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>in our relationships, and we try to put a boundary

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<v Speaker 1>on another person. Don't do it to try to control them,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe we have tried to do it to change them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got so frustrated because we realized that ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>we can't change another person. You see, I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in both of these camps, and I was absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that I wasn't a girl that boundaries would really

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<v Speaker 1>work for. But the biggest reason that I had an

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<v Speaker 1>issue with boundaries is I didn't have the biblical confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that God was okay with humans drawing boundaries. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also didn't have the emotional fortitude. Even if I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I needed a boundary, I didn't have the emotional fortitude

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<v Speaker 1>to actually communicate the boundary, implement the boundary, and then

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<v Speaker 1>stay consistent with the boundary. And so I continue a

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<v Speaker 1>very dysfunctional dance in some of my most important relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>So today I do have a message that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to preach and teach, but mostly I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation, a conversation heart to heart with you,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know what it feels like to walk in

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<v Speaker 1>to this very place, this very church building, right here,

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<v Speaker 1>so broken hearted because my most significant relationship was unraveling,

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<v Speaker 1>and I desperately wanted to save my family. But I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be the only one to make changes, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that boundaries were needed. But because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the biblical confidence that boundaries were okay, nor did

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<v Speaker 1>I have the emotional fortitude, I just stayed in this

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<v Speaker 1>very dysfunctional dance and it almost killed me. So if

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<v Speaker 1>some of you have walked in here today and you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of desperate in your heart because maybe it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of your most important relationships, or maybe it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of relationships in your life, and you've hit that

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<v Speaker 1>spot where you say, I just can't take it anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to assure you I've been right where you've been.

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<v Speaker 1>I've sat where you've sat, I've cried where you might cry,

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<v Speaker 1>And today I think I'm going to give you a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hope now because we're talking about boundaries and dysfunction,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you're seated with some people and that you

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<v Speaker 1>do life with, and maybe that you have a like

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<v Speaker 1>some tension with. Sometimes we're gonna lay down a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of ground rules because I don't want you poking your

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor and saying did you hear her? You really need

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that. I mean, that was like straight from God,

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<v Speaker 1>to her to you. You know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we're just gonna lay down some ground rules here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you to pick one of your neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>and repeat after me. This message is for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>will not use it against you. Okay. Now turn to

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<v Speaker 1>your second choice neighbor that they're not at all offended

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't pick them first, truly, and repeat after me

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<v Speaker 1>this message is for me, but you need it more,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh dear, Just in case, we haven't had any dysfunction

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<v Speaker 1>stirred up in our life recently, I just helped you out. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's part of the issue with dysfunction. We get

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<v Speaker 1>used to our own dysfunctions and we start calling things

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<v Speaker 1>that are dysfunctional normal because we've just lived in it

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. Right, My sister came to visit a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago and we had just finished a

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<v Speaker 1>big renovation at our house. Now, if you're an electrician

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<v Speaker 1>or a plumber, this is not going to make sense

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<v Speaker 1>to you, but I promise you I'm absolutely telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow my hot water heater got connected to the back

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<v Speaker 1>floodlights of my house, so, in other words, we would

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<v Speaker 1>have hot water as long as the back flood lights

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<v Speaker 1>were on, but if you turned them off, the hot

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<v Speaker 1>water would go out. And I know that makes no sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am telling you the truth. That's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So when my sister came to visit, she'd driven quite

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<v Speaker 1>a ways and then she decided to go take a shower.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's in the middle of her shower and suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>I hear her like stumbling upstairs, opening the door, yelling downstairs, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>the hot water just went out, to which I replied, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go turn on the back flood lights. So after

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<v Speaker 1>she finished her shower, she came downstairs and she got

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<v Speaker 1>really close to me, like a sister, would you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just right in my face, and she said, can you

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<v Speaker 1>please repeat to me what you said when I told

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<v Speaker 1>you the hot water was out? And I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it's because someone turned off the back flood light,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just needed to turn those on and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you eventually got hot water back. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she got even closer and she said, you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not normal, right, You need to have that fixed. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I know, I've been meaning to make a

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<v Speaker 1>little sign and maybe even laminate it, and put it

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<v Speaker 1>by the light switch for the back floodlights, just instructing people,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I need to make that fix. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she just shook her head and walked away because she

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<v Speaker 1>realized I was dancing with dysfunction. I was calling something

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<v Speaker 1>normal that was not normal, and it was time to

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<v Speaker 1>call in the professionals, but instead I did what's called

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<v Speaker 1>a workaround. Now, let me tell you why I did

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<v Speaker 1>the workaround. I grew up really poor, and when you

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<v Speaker 1>grow up in that way, you don't have money to

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<v Speaker 1>hire the professionals. So when things get broken, you do

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<v Speaker 1>what's called a workaround. Right, So it didn't really occur

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<v Speaker 1>to me that there was another way to fix it

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<v Speaker 1>besides just putting a sign up. But that wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>fixing it. That's dancing with dysfunction. And I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of us are doing that in our relationships. And

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<v Speaker 1>so today I want to give you a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>what healthy boundaries really look like, so that we can

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<v Speaker 1>stop dancing with dysfunction some of our most important relationships. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>remember I said that I didn't have the biblical confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that God was okay with boundaries, So I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>open up the Bible right in Genesis one. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have your Bible and you want to open

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<v Speaker 1>it up, you can turn to Genesis one. Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>so fun when the preacher or the teacher says, turn

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<v Speaker 1>to Genesis one because you can actually find it. I

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<v Speaker 1>just love it. You're welcome, okay. So Genesis chapter one,

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<v Speaker 1>starting in verse two, Now the earth was formless and empty.

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<v Speaker 1>Darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of God was hovering over the world. And God said,

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<v Speaker 1>let there be light. And there was light. God saw

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<v Speaker 1>that the light was good, and he separated. Everybody say separated,

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<v Speaker 1>and he separated the light from the darkness. That separation

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<v Speaker 1>was a boundary. And then it says in verse five,

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<v Speaker 1>God called the light day, and the darkness he called night.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was evening and there was morning the first

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<v Speaker 1>day verse six, and God said, let there be a

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<v Speaker 1>vault between the waters to separate. Everybody say separate, to

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<v Speaker 1>separate water from water. So God made the vault, and

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<v Speaker 1>he separated the water under the vault from the water

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<v Speaker 1>above it. And it was so God called the vault sky.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was evening and there was morning the second day.

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<v Speaker 1>And then God makes a separation between the dry land

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<v Speaker 1>and the water, and there was a separation. So you see,

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<v Speaker 1>even from creating the foundations of the world, God used

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries in such healthy ways. I'm convinced right here from

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<v Speaker 1>Genesis one that boundaries are not just a good idea,

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<v Speaker 1>they are actually God's idea. But now let's go over

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<v Speaker 1>to Genesis two, because this is where I really found

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<v Speaker 1>some something just completely fascinating. In Genesis chapter two, starting

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<v Speaker 1>in verse fifteen, it says this, the Lord God took

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<v Speaker 1>the man and put the man in the garden of

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<v Speaker 1>Eden to work it and take care of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord God commanded the man, you are free from

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<v Speaker 1>any tree in the garden, but you must not eat

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<v Speaker 1>from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,

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<v Speaker 1>for when you eat from it, you will certainly die. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced at this point that the man did not

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<v Speaker 1>write the one rule down because the very next verse

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<v Speaker 1>it says, in verse eighteen, the Lord God said, it

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<v Speaker 1>is not good for the man to be alone. I

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<v Speaker 1>will make a helper suitable for him. And women have

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<v Speaker 1>been making lists for men ever since. Okay, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>reading scripture. Okay, So but here's the thing. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>completely fascinated that, of all the topics God could have

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<v Speaker 1>chosen for this first recorded conversation with Man, that God

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<v Speaker 1>chose the topic of a boundary. Think of how many

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<v Speaker 1>things that the Lord could have surely had to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>with this man in this first recorded conversation, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>he chooses a topic of a boundary. Why Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the first three words that God says

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<v Speaker 1>in this first recorded conversation, God says, you are free.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, we serve a God of freedom, and in

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<v Speaker 1>order for there to be real freedom, boundaries have to

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<v Speaker 1>exist so that we know. Oh, if we know where

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<v Speaker 1>those boundary lines are, then we can run freely between them,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where real freedom exists. Can you imagine if

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<v Speaker 1>Adam was in the garden and he was tentative, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what was okay and what was not okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then it would it would always be kind of like this,

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<v Speaker 1>like I wonder if can I eat from this tree?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I go here? Can I do this? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>do that? And you see that mystery was solved when

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<v Speaker 1>God established the boundary, and then Adam was truly free.

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<v Speaker 1>You are free to eat from any tree in the garden.

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<v Speaker 1>But here comes the one restriction. You must not eat

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<v Speaker 1>from this tree, the tree of the knowledge of good

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<v Speaker 1>and evil, for if you eat from it, you will die.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's what I learned in that first boundary that

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<v Speaker 1>we see God establishing. He did it for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of freedom, and that one restriction. He wasn't overly restrictive,

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<v Speaker 1>but that one restriction it was for Adam's protection. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the weight of eating from the tree

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<v Speaker 1>of the knowledge of good and evil? Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>the weight that that would put on Adam. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what it is. It's when we turn on the

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<v Speaker 1>TV and we hear about another school shooting, when our

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<v Speaker 1>best friend calls us and says that she has cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the weight of addictions and affairs and so many

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<v Speaker 1>things that we hear about or that we experience. The

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<v Speaker 1>human heart was not originally supposed to experience. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the weight of the knowledge of evil. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>God said, don't do this, not because he's an overly

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<v Speaker 1>restrictive God, but because he was trying to protect Adam

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<v Speaker 1>from what Adam didn't know. So it's for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of freedom. There is a restriction, but it's for the

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<v Speaker 1>protection In that relationship. And also there's a consequence. If

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<v Speaker 1>you eat from it, you will die, because a boundary

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<v Speaker 1>without a consequence is nothing but a really bad suggestion, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so boundaries, indeed, they're not just a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I see in scripture here that they're actually God's idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I kept reading in scripture, and it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that interesting that in the garden there was one rule

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<v Speaker 1>given one rule. Can you imagine if we just still

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<v Speaker 1>lived in that time, like one rule, we only had

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<v Speaker 1>one to follow as a rule follower, that would just

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<v Speaker 1>be such a delight to my heart. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>would just be amazing. Right. But where there is sin,

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<v Speaker 1>there is dysfunction, and where there is dysfunction, there's chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>And where there is chaos, there is a need for order.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are more boundaries established the more sin that

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<v Speaker 1>there is. And by the time time we get in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible to the law and the profits, what started

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<v Speaker 1>out as one boundary, now he has over six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries because sin had increased. Therefore boundaries also increased. Then

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<v Speaker 1>by the time we get to the way that God

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<v Speaker 1>establishes the temple, this was the biggest revelation to me

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<v Speaker 1>of all, you say, when God establishes the temple, he

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<v Speaker 1>allows certain people access to certain places, but not all

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<v Speaker 1>people all access. And it's not because this group of

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<v Speaker 1>people was more valuable than this group of people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that the more access you had, the more responsibility you

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<v Speaker 1>were required to demonstrate. So the more access, the more responsibility,

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<v Speaker 1>and the greater the consequence all the way to where

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<v Speaker 1>the high priest had the greatest access. The high priest

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<v Speaker 1>once a year could go into the Holy of Holies

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<v Speaker 1>to make atonement for the people. But in order to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, in order to have that kind of access,

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<v Speaker 1>he had to demonstrate the absolute highest responsibility. He had

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<v Speaker 1>to be perfectly cleansed, he had to put on special garments,

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<v Speaker 1>and if he did not, then he would step into

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy of Holies and he would drop dead. Greatest access,

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<v Speaker 1>greatest responsibility required. Those two words became really important to

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<v Speaker 1>me as I started trying to understand the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and unhealthy boundaries, helpful and utterly unhelpful boundaries, access

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<v Speaker 1>and responsibility. And here's what occurred to me. We all

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<v Speaker 1>have limited capacity in our life. Like we have limited

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<v Speaker 1>financial capacity in our bank account, we have limited time

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<v Speaker 1>capacity we have limited energy capacity, and some people have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more energy capacity, and some people are lower capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people have a lot more financial capacity, and others

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<v Speaker 1>have lower capacity. But regardless, in all these areas of capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>we're limited, not because we're selfish necessarily, but because we're human. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if we get selfish with our capacity, then God can

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<v Speaker 1>certainly check our hearts on this. But what I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>more often in my life is that I start to

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<v Speaker 1>have this notion that I'm unlimited in some areas of

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<v Speaker 1>my capacity where I'm very limited, and then it causes

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<v Speaker 1>me when I hyper extend or bankrupt my area of

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<v Speaker 1>capacity because I'm saying yes to do much and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not properly managing my own areas of capacity. What happens

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<v Speaker 1>to me is I start acting like I think I'm God,

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<v Speaker 1>because God is He is unlimited. God has all the capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when we start to act like we are

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<v Speaker 1>unlimited in our capacity, then we start acting like God.

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<v Speaker 1>We are limited, not because we're selfish necessarily, but because

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<v Speaker 1>we are very very human. So back to that word access.

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<v Speaker 1>If I am giving level ten access to someone who

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<v Speaker 1>is not demonstrating level ten responsibility, maybe they're only demonstrating

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<v Speaker 1>level three responsibility. Right, the distance between the access that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm granting them and the responsibility that they are demonstrating.

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<v Speaker 1>That distance right there, that is where dysfunction grows. That

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<v Speaker 1>is where there's chaos, right, and that's where a boundary

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<v Speaker 1>is needed. Now here's the mistake I used to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go, Okay, I'm giving level ten access. This

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<v Speaker 1>person is only demonstrating level three responsibility. So I know

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<v Speaker 1>what I have to do. I have to put a

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<v Speaker 1>boundary on them to force them, using external pressure, to

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<v Speaker 1>increase their responsibility up to the level of access that

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<v Speaker 1>I've granted them. So we can have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>someone and request that they be more responsible. But if

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<v Speaker 1>they are unwilling or incapable of anything more than level

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<v Speaker 1>three responsibility, us putting a boundary on them is only

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<v Speaker 1>going to cause more frustration. You see, we cannot possibly

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<v Speaker 1>permanently change another person by using external pressure. Now think

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<v Speaker 1>about today, if someone had a cardiac event, obviously those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who know how to do CPR, we would

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<v Speaker 1>rush to that person's aid and using external pressure, we

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<v Speaker 1>would apply that pressure to make their heart beat and

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<v Speaker 1>to create a change in their situation. But at some

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<v Speaker 1>point if their heart does not start to quicken and

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<v Speaker 1>beat on its own, you cannot permanently sustain that change

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<v Speaker 1>using external pressure. Right. Never have you seen two friends

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<v Speaker 1>walking around them all one doing chest compressions on the

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<v Speaker 1>other and think, Wow, that's a sustainable, healthy relationship. Right? No, So,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know the desperation. I know the desperate feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of something's got to change, and you know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>the responsibility this person is not bringing. That's what's got

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<v Speaker 1>to change. And so most of us just stay stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in this frustrating place. We know that changes needed to

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<v Speaker 1>be made. We make the changes that we can make.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a relationship, if the other person is un

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<v Speaker 1>willing or incapable, then that's where that weird dysfunction starts

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. So if it's utterly unhelpful to put a

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<v Speaker 1>boundary on this other person trying to force them to change,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do? We put a boundary on ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We put a boundary on ourselves. And if I am

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<v Speaker 1>giving level ten access to areas of my capacity to

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's only bringing level three responsibility, I cannot control

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>another person. But God does say evidence of his fruit

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<v Speaker 1>inside of me. One of those fruits is self control,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I must reduce the access I grant to

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<v Speaker 1>that person down to their demonstrated level of responsibility, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that equilibrium can occur in this relationship. Now here's

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<v Speaker 1>the really great news. You guys are already doing this

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<v Speaker 1>really really well in some areas of your life. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm going to prove this to you. Okay, raise

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<v Speaker 1>your hand. If you have a bank account, just raise

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>your hand. I'm not coming after your bank account today.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want you to know, okay, perfect, how many

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<v Speaker 1>of you have a password or a security code protecting

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<v Speaker 1>your bank account? Raise your hand? Is it because you're selfish, unchristian, unkind,

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>not willing to give to others? No, that's not at all.

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>You have a passcode. And I didn't say you could

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<v Speaker 1>remember your passcode. I'm just saying you have a passcode, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But you have a passcode? Why? Because you have limited

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<v Speaker 1>resources in your bank account, and if you gave everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in here access to your bank account, then there may

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<v Speaker 1>be some people in here who would be irresponsible and

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<v Speaker 1>they would take so much of the money that you

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<v Speaker 1>have in your bank account that you would become bankrupt. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>you put a security pass code there, not because you're selfish,

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<v Speaker 1>but because you are wise and because you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good steward of the resources that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>We know this with our financial capacity, but we forget

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<v Speaker 1>it in so many other areas of our life. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so how does this really work? How does it really work?

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<v Speaker 1>If you know that you have limited capacity and you're

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<v Speaker 1>reducing the access to some area of your capacity down

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<v Speaker 1>to their demonstrated level of responsibility, how in the world

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<v Speaker 1>do you even communicate that? Well, in a very simple sense,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that you have a child in third grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, that child was in second grade, and the

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<v Speaker 1>second grade teacher emails you and said, you know, last

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<v Speaker 1>year you did the end of the year party for

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<v Speaker 1>the second grade, and you did such an amazing job.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just wondering. I know you don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>children in second grade this year, but we're just wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>can you come back and can you arrange the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year party for the second grade. Now here's

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<v Speaker 1>the crisis that would happen in my heart. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say they loved the way I did the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year party. I mean, this is such

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<v Speaker 1>an honor. Wow. Right, But then I was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get this pit in my stomach because my gut would

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<v Speaker 1>say no, absolutely not, You do not have the time

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. But then, why in the world does

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>my mouth say yes? And it just does because I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of think their request suddenly has become my responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing that really would wig me out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so afraid that if I said no that

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<v Speaker 1>they would be so disappointed in me, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather carry the burden of saying yes rather than

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<v Speaker 1>the burden of saying no. HM. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give you a simple little script. This is about to

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<v Speaker 1>change your life. With apologies to the second grade teacher

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 1>out there who's wanting a third grade parent to do

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>their end of the year party. Here we go. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a simple way that you can reduce the access and

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.959
<v Speaker 1>communicate a really healthy boundary and still reflect the beauty

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of your own heart. You can simply reply back, thank

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you so much. It's such an honor that you requested

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>this of me. While my heart says yes, yes, yes,

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the reality of my time makes this a no. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you and sign your name. You don't need to explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>My counselor. You know, I mean, I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>all do this right now. My counselor has really worked

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<v Speaker 1>with me on this, and it was really important that

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I learned this. You see, I used to think I

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<v Speaker 1>had to over explain. I still struggle with over explaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have any over explainers in the room. Okay, remember,

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<v Speaker 1>do not poke your neighbor. Let them just say that

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>they are an over explainer. Okay. So here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do. I would say my heart says yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of my time makes this a no. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I would start to explain all the reasons why.

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<v Speaker 1>And my counselor said this to me, and it absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>radically changed my thought process, he said, Lisa, adults inform

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<v Speaker 1>children explain good right? All right, all right, so let's

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>go to something a little more challenging. Let's say you

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>have a friend, possibly a family member. But let's say

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you have a friend and y'all love going to church together.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Don't poke your neighbor. Okay, so you love going to

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>church together. However, you have different definitions of being on time, right,

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and this is really causing some situationtional stress. Right. Okay,

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>So let's say your definition of being on time is

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that you want to get their twenty minutes early. You

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>do why because you have got to get a parking space.

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>This is so funny. I see somebody holding up blinders

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>against their neighbor right now, you're cracking me up. Okay,

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>So your definition of being on time is to get

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>their twenty minutes early because you want to have time

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to park and actually walk through the parking lot, right,

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>novel idea. And then you want to get inside. You

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>want to go t tea potty right, because you don't

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>want to be sitting in there and be thinking about that,

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>so you wanted to go do that. Then then you

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to come in. You want to

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>get a seat, You want to watch the announcements. You

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be ready for the first note of the

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>first praise song because that is being on time to you. Amen, Amen. Okay.

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>But let's say your friend has a different definition of

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>being on time. Their definition of being on time is

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that they can skirt in here before the last praise

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>song is finished. That is their definition of being on time.

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Right now, here's the deal. Are you bad for wanting

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to be there twenty minutes early? No? Are they bad,

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>they still want to go to church. I mean they're

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>just getting here, like before the last praise song, espelishly.

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe some of you think is bad, but

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I say, in general, that's not bad. It just means

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you have two different definitions of being on time right.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And so you realize that something's got to change, because

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>every week you're writing with them, and they are making

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you late according to you. And now you are sitting

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>way up there in the balcony, right, or you may

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>not even make it inside. You may have to be

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>sitting somewhere in the overflow, right. And now you're so

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>twisted up in a knot because you are ready. You

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>could have been down here on the floor. That's where

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you could have been, right, and you could have gone teeepotty.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>You who see the announcements, listen to all the praise songs.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>And so now when they make you skirt in at

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the last moment and you're out of breath from running

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>through the parking lot and you had to park five

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>miles away, you know, And now you finally get in

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>your seat, you are so twisted up in a knot

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that you cannot even enjoy anything because all you want

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>is for Pastor Steven to address the issues of this

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>person that made you lay on huh you know what

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Okay, so you have a choice. You could

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>just start avoiding this person. That's what some of us do, right.

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So they call and say, oh, do you want to

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>ride your church together? And you could say, oh, you know,

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I would really love to go to church with you today.

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I really would. The problem is I have to run

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>errands before I go to church. I mean, and they're

0:32:54.600 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>one person errands, just one and and so this other

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>person when you're communicating this, they know something's up and

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>they're going to personalize it and get their feelings hurt

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>because they can't quite figure out why you're being distant.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>And then you could possibly just try to still go

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>with them and be late. And you're going to take

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it and take it and take it and take it

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and take it until one day you just cannot and

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you snap and you jump from trying to take it

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>all the way over here to where you cannot take

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>it anymore, and you just skirt that friendship altogether. You See,

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>what a boundary does is that helps us avoid extremes,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the extreme of I'm going to take it and take

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>it and take it until I'm so frazzled and fractured,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>worn out and worn down that I just don't even

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>want to be that person's friend anymore. So you jump

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>from that extreme all the way to you're done. Boundaries,

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>what they really are, is a way to bring the

0:33:55.880 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>conversation back to the middle, to avoid those extremes. Boundaries

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>are nothing more than a conversational tool, a healthy conversational

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>tool where you can establish what is and is not

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>okay in this relationship, what you do have to give

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>and what you don't have to give, what you will tolerate,

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and what you will not tolerate. Now, obviously we need

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the Lord to check our hearts here, you know, we

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 1>don't want to start being just absolutely irresponsible. I mean,

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I had, you know, possibly one of my many children

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>try to draw a boundary this year at Christmas, and

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>they just said, I do not have it to give

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 1>to help wash any of the dishes, to which to

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>which I replied, and I do not have it to

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>give to put food on any of your dishes. So

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>neither of those are helpful or healthy, right, So we

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>do it to check our heart. We don't want to

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>draw boundaries to sort of be some sort of weapon

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to make us able to get out of our responsibilities.

0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>We do have responsibilities. At the same time, we have

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the responsibility to stay self controlled in our relationships. So

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you could simply have this conversation with this friend. Hi, friend,

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I love going to church with you, I really do.

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Is that true? It is true? Right, So don't put

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a butt there, because if you put a butt, I

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>love going to church with you butt, that's sort of

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 1>negates the fact that you love going to church with them. Okay,

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 1>so you put an and I love going to church

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>with you, and I have a different definition of being

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>on time than you do. That doesn't make me right

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and you wrong, or you right and me wrong. It

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>just means we're different. So here's the deal. I'm going

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to drive to church this week. I would love for

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you to ride with me, and I'm pulling out of

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>my driveway at this time so that I can get

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>there twenty minutes early. If you would like to ride

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>with me, great, be in my car at that time. However,

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>let me give you some really awesome news. If you

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>are being more creative with your time, so creative, then

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>we can just ride separately, no big deal, and I'll

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>save you a seat you can sit right beside me.

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll even catch you up on all the prey songs

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that we sang, you know. And we're still going to

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>be great friends, and we're still going to be at

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>church together. But we've just made the wise decision not

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to go to church together. Now, what's better having that

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>conversation or getting so frustrated in that relationship you just

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>don't even want to be around that person at all.

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You see, boundaries help us bring it back to the

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>middle and simply say here's what I have to give,

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and here's what I don't have to give, here's what

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I can tolerate, and here's what I will not tolerate.

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>And it's not out of a mean spirit, it's actually

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>so that we can stay self controlled. I did this

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>activity one time, and I pulled out my journal and

0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I wrote, this is who Lisa is when she's operating

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>at her best. I'm kind, I'm generous, I'm easygoing, all

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>kinds of different qualities. Then on the next page, I wrote,

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and this is who Lisa is. This is who I

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:18.399
<v Speaker 1>am when I get frazzled, fractured, worn down, and worn out.

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I am impatient, I'm withdrawn, I'm skeptical of everyone. I

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>don't want to give anything to anyone. Now I ask

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>myself the question, which version of Lisa do I want

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to stay front and center in my relationships? You see boundaries,

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>me drawing healthy boundaries, ME putting boundaries on myself so

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that I can stay safe, sane, stable, and self controlled.

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 1>It is my way of fighting for the relationship so

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to spend so much time fighting against

0:37:55.280 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>other people. Now, what about the verse that says where

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Jesus instructs us to lay down our life for our friends.

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>And Jesus not only instructed us to do that, but

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 1>he modeled it. And you're absolutely right. Jesus absolutely modeled

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and taught to lay down our life for our friends.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>And Jesus did this. But never forget Jesus laid down

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>his one life for a high and holy purpose. Jesus

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>did not lay down his life to enable bad behavior

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to continue. Amen. Amen, Well, I want to end today

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.879
<v Speaker 1>with what I feel like is the most important thing

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>for us to remember in all of these boundary conversations,

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to do it by telling a story

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>so many years ago, my family decided that they wanted

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to go get certified to learn how to go scuba diving.

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought this was an absolutely terrible idea for several reasons,

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>because sharks eat people every day, and you know, I

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>don't like to get my hair wet, So there's two

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>really good reasons why I don't want to get certified

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to go scuba diving. But they were so absolutely convinced

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that this is what we needed to do. So we

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>all signed up and we went to the classes and

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>everything was okay. In the classroom, it was good. And

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>then we went and did our first dive in the

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>pool and we did pretty good. And then we did

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>our next dive in a lake and that was okay.

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>But now it was the day. It was time for

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 1>our first big family dive in the ocean. So we

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>took the boat out and we all have on our

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>gear and we get out into the middle of the

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>ocean and the dive master gives us some last minute

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>instructions for what to do. Then he instructs us to

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>get in the water. So we all get in the

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>water and then he says, okay, you know, the first

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.799
<v Speaker 1>thing you need to do is to let the air

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>out of your air vest and start to descend in increments,

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll all meet up thirty feet below the

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>surface on the ocean floor. And so we had practiced

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>this enough where I knew exactly what I was supposed

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>to do, and so did everyone else. So we all

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>did it. We pushed the button to let the air

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>out of our air vests, and everyone else did exactly

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>what they were supposed to do. They started to descend

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>in increments. I let the air out of my air

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>vest and nothing happened. I am just floating on the top.

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen one of those movies where it's

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 1>like everybody in a group is okay, but it's the

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>one person floating at the top that the shark comes

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>to get. Uh huh. That's very much what I was

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>feeling of that moment. And I just kept saying in

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>my brain, don't panic, don't panic, don't panic. But sometimes

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>my brain does not send that message to my heart,

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and in my heart, I was absolutely frantic. So I thought,

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:58.919
<v Speaker 1>no big deal. I don't want to cause a scene.

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to put my head down, I'm going to

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>swim to my people. That's not what you're supposed to do,

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>but I did it. So put my head down. I

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>started swimming, swimming, swimming to my people. The problem was

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:11.320
<v Speaker 1>that my backside was like a cork, very much drawn

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to the surface of the water. I could not get

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 1>down to my people. Eventually, the dive master sees what's

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>happening and he swims up and he looks at me

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and he said, oh, you're you're having buoyancy issues. And

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I got this look on my face like I didn't

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>quite understand what he was saying. And he was like, yeah,

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you see fat floats when it's in salt water. Excuse me,

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I will cut you. You need right, you need to

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>back it up, sir, right, you really need to be

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>thankful you spent that I spent some time with Jesus

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the morning. That's what you need to be thankful for.

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>And so he could tell that I did not like

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>that answer, and he's like, oh, oh, oh, but it's

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>no problem. I know how to fix this for you.

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>So he gets on the boat and he gets this

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>belt and he hands it to me. He says, you

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>just need to put this belt on. We're going to

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 1>add some weight and it'll force you to sink. Thank you, sir,

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. And so I put the belt on and

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>we start adding weights to the belt, and then we

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 1>add more weight, and then we add more weight. Y'all,

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.439
<v Speaker 1>nothing is happening, and so then he feels the need

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<v Speaker 1>to over explain what's going on. He said, Wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>need as much weight as a very large man to

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<v Speaker 1>make you sink. Thank you. I've waited all my life

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<v Speaker 1>for a man to say that, really truly. And so

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<v Speaker 1>finally he gets enough weight on my weight belt to

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<v Speaker 1>where I do sink. The problem is that my bottom

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<v Speaker 1>is still pointed north at all times. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>got down to where my people were, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>like in the formation, and there is nothing I could

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<v Speaker 1>do at all, and so they are all my people

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all standing around. I'm just hanging there. And

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever been able to feel what someone else

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<v Speaker 1>is thinking? You know what I mean? I could feel

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<v Speaker 1>what my people were thinking. They were thinking, Hey, what's up,

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<v Speaker 1>Mom's butt, that's what's up? Just constantly up. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was just not a good situation, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was trying so hard to pretend like it

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<v Speaker 1>was normal, but it was one hundred percent not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the dive master just gives us some little

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<v Speaker 1>instructions using his hand, and then he divides us up

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<v Speaker 1>into groups, and now we're supposed to go and swim

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<v Speaker 1>off with the person we were assigned to. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was assigned with my oldest daughter, and so we had

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<v Speaker 1>barely turned from the group and we started to swim

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<v Speaker 1>from the group to go exploring, and suddenly a creature

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere whips right through us and rams itself

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<v Speaker 1>into my daughter's head. Well, I am out, absolutely panicked.

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<v Speaker 1>She is panicked, and I'm looking around and all my

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<v Speaker 1>other people are like, it's okay, it's okay. I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the dive master and he said it's okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, yeah, because all you people are skinny, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the chicken nugget down here, okay. And so yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>okay because that thing's gonna come after me and give

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<v Speaker 1>you all time to escape. So the creature kind of

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<v Speaker 1>went away for a little bit, and my daughter and

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<v Speaker 1>I are still tentative, and we decide, okay, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep exploring, and the creature comes back and it

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<v Speaker 1>rams itself into my daughter's head so hard that she

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<v Speaker 1>completely panics and she jumps on top of me, expecting

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<v Speaker 1>me to be the solution to this issue. Well, she

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<v Speaker 1>causes so much of a stir that my other people

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<v Speaker 1>start jumping on top of me. Now everybody's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me to save their life. But then I remembered my gift.

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<v Speaker 1>I ripped off that weight bell and we did rise.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, hi, Well we got up on that boat, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hmm, mabadon kenok saved ah you people.

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<v Speaker 1>But the dive master came up and he was absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>positively not impressed at all. He just wasn't and he

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<v Speaker 1>looked at us and he said, you all need to

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<v Speaker 1>sit on the edge of the boat. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>we were in boat time out, you know. And he

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<v Speaker 1>took his finger and he pointed it right at me.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, do you know why you panicked down there?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you panicked because you took your eyes off

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>the dive muster, and the dive muster knows things you

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And you were never in any trouble. The

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<v Speaker 1>worst danger you created is by shooting up back to

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<v Speaker 1>the boat without ascending an increments like you're supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Never take your eyes off the master. Never take your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes off the relationships. They're wonderful until they're not. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think the most important thing when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to have healthy conversations and implement boundaries. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know so many of you have much more challenging situations

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<v Speaker 1>than the second grade teacher and than your friend making

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<v Speaker 1>you run late. I know it because I've lived those

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<v Speaker 1>really heartbreaking, devastating situations. And you're hesitant to draw boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>because you're so afraid that if you draw a boundary,

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<v Speaker 1>that that other person will take something from you that

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<v Speaker 1>they give you that you're not sure you'd be okay without.

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<v Speaker 1>We will always desperately want from other people what we

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<v Speaker 1>fear our God will not provide. Keep your eyes on

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<v Speaker 1>the Master. Keep your eyes on the Master. The Master

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<v Speaker 1>knows things you don't know. Stay in his word, keep

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<v Speaker 1>coming to church, keep listening to the messages, read helpful

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<v Speaker 1>resources on boundaries, and remember boundaries. The ultimate purpose is

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<v Speaker 1>to love others well without losing the best of who

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