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Speaker 1: Welcome in friends to the very first edition of the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros Dynasty Fantasy Baseball Podcast. I am Chris Welsh,

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Speaker 1: who you have most likely heard on Fantasy Pros, and

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Speaker 1: yes we did it, we got a dynasty baseball podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to bring dynasty baseball content, more dynasty

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Speaker 1: baseball content here to Fantasy Pros. And it's even more

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Speaker 1: exciting that the people above here at Fantasy Pros want

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Speaker 1: to see some dynasty baseball content. So what can you

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Speaker 1: expect when we're talking dynasty baseball. We'll be talking ranks,

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Speaker 1: We'll be talking prospects and old guys how do they

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Speaker 1: fit into it. We're going to be answering your questions,

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Speaker 1: interacting with you, mock drafts, and really just getting you

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Speaker 1: prepared as best as possible to attack some dynasty baseball

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Speaker 1: leagues this year, whether they're new leagues and you're starting

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Speaker 1: off on a fresh draft, or you got a dynasty

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Speaker 1: want to understand values. So make sure you are subscribed

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Speaker 1: so you're notified anytime we got new episodes for you,

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Speaker 1: which we will be dropping weekly. I got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of plans for how we're going to treat leading up

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Speaker 1: into the new year. For the episodes are actually kind

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Speaker 1: all off by talking to you about some of the

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Speaker 1: ranks and values really of the most polarizing players around Dynasty,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to do that with it is an

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Speaker 1: arbitrary number system, but we're not going to be doing

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Speaker 1: it forever. Groups of twenty five in Dynasty, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to lead up to the top one hundred. Today

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Speaker 1: in the very first episode of the Fantasy Pros Dynasty

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Speaker 1: Baseball podcast, Eric Cross is going to be joining us.

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Speaker 1: Eric has done stuff here on Fantasy Pros. You can

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Speaker 1: catch him on the tool Shed podcast, one of the

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Speaker 1: best Dynasty minds out there, where we are going to

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Speaker 1: be pitting some of the most polarizing top twenty five

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Speaker 1: Dynasty guys up against each other their overall values, drafting habits.

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Speaker 1: We're really going to kind of set a primer for

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Speaker 1: the top twenty five and ultimately with Dynasty Baseball. As

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Speaker 1: Baseball information is given, so you know, when someone is like,

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Speaker 1: Do you like Aaron Judger? Do you like Jose Ramirez?

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Speaker 1: What's something? If you were to ask that question to

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Speaker 1: an analyst, what are they gonna say? They're gonna say, well,

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Speaker 1: what's the league format? Well, Dynasty obviously format matters, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that. But what's interesting about dynasty is how

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Speaker 1: Because there are many flavors of how you can do dynasty. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: sometimes dynasty leagues have more categories. Obviously, if it's headhead

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Speaker 1: But what I'm getting at it is your approach to dynasty.

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Speaker 1: It's really not the same as your approach and how

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Speaker 1: you would necessarily just do redraft. Like redraft it's oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: All of these things are dynasty based questions, and my

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Speaker 1: wasting time. Let's get right to it. Just giving you

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Speaker 1: a little bit of primer as we set up, Eric

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Speaker 1: Cross and myself, we're not gonna go number one is

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Speaker 1: It's Eric Cross and myself for the top twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Dynasty players, ranks, and biggest questions that you got to

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Speaker 1: work through. Joining us here on the Fantasy Pros Dynasty

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Speaker 1: He's a great person. Just got to see him just

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Speaker 1: So well, there's another there's another debate to be had

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Speaker 1: Tucker did, I'd take that over, like what Tatis even

435
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 1: did this past year, or yeah, you know, it's so

436
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: set right in that middle. So you've already kind of

437
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 1: answered that though, because Tucker's five compared to wherever, I'm

438
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: not sure you have Sodo.

439
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: I had Soto seven.

440
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 3: It's like we're going right down my rankings here, and yeah, Soto,

441
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 3: you know, after he went from the Nats to the

442
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 3: Padres last year, you know obviously was not the the

443
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 3: soda we've come to know and love. And even April

444
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 3: this year, I think you're like a buck eighty going

445
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: into the month of May. But once he heat it up,

446
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 3: which literally was at the end of April we started

447
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 3: heating up, he was, you know, the usual one, Sodo.

448
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 3: And I even to the tweet earlier today, like from

449
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 3: April twenty seventh, to the end of the season two

450
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 3: ninety three, four, twenty four, five, fifty two, eighty one runs,

451
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: hundred rbi, thirty one home runs, eleven steal its like

452
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 3: you know, in top ten, basically across the board averaged

453
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 3: Iso will By, et cetera. So Sodo is I mean, I

454
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: think that's sort of that little bit, you know, the

455
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 3: two months last year in the first month of this year,

456
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: that's an anomaly.

457
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: In my mind.

458
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: You can literally just ignore that thrower, get it out

459
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 3: of your mind, because we've seen what Sodo can do

460
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 3: before that, and you know, the last five months of

461
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: this season.

462
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, what keeps him out of Tier one?

463
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 3: Now for me, he's the very top of tier placihoniest

464
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: Tier one then then Tier two. But next year he's

465
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: at the top of it because you know the other

466
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 3: guys in like you know, show Hey, obviously the injury

467
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 3: concerns jored On. Then you get some of the older

468
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 3: guys Muokie, Harper, et cetera. Yeah, so Sodo still only

469
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: what SODA's just just turned twenty five has probably the highest,

470
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: you know, one of the highest two or three floor.

471
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: I think he is a higher floor than you know,

472
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 3: even went and Tucker and all these guys, because it's

473
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: even in this down year, he's four hundred opps.

474
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: Lock it in, but yeah, not.

475
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 3: Quite as sexy, doesn't steal as many bags, So it

476
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: gives you a little something there.

477
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: But I think he's kind of right in that sweet

478
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: spot back into the top.

479
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,239
Speaker 1: How did you ding Otani knowing that the pitching is

480
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: done for the year, and the pitching, luckily the the

481
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: one thing we got away with is the pitching is

482
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 1: not going to affect the hitting theoretically of what we're seeing.

483
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 1: He had the little cleanup surgery, should be back right

484
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, and he hits again.

485
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 1: But how much of a bang did you put on

486
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: Otani due to this arm injury?

487
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a TONI was right in that top tier

488
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 3: coming into the year before Akunya separated himself.

489
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 2: For me, I mean I think he was.

490
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: I had him as high as a second at some points

491
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 3: in time, and I still have him. I have a

492
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 3: number nine. I just number eight right now. Him and

493
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: Jordan pretty close to me in that eight nine. So

494
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: I was looking at it and you look over at

495
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 3: the you know rasball player raider. Obviously that's just for

496
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, but as a hitter alone, he was

497
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 3: the seventh most valuable hitter. They had him behind a Kunya, Olson, Freeman, Betts,

498
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: Carol and Wit and then Jay Rodgers right behind him,

499
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: and then Tucker right behind him. So you know, he's

500
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: still a top ten or at the very worst, top

501
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: fifteen hitter. Yeah, he's a couple of years older, but

502
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,959
Speaker 3: it's not like he's thirty three thirty four.

503
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: He's still twenty nine years old.

504
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: And we know that the pitching will come back obviously

505
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: not in twenty twenty four, by in twenty twenty five

506
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: and beyond, and he was a top fifteen ish pitcher

507
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: or so, so.

508
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: I kind of have that in the back of my mind.

509
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I did to drop him, obviously because he's

510
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: losing half of half of his value, but you had

511
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 3: the half of it. The hitting side is still really

512
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: damn good, and he's still fairly young in the grand

513
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: scheme of things for baseball. So I was like, this

514
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 3: is still a top ten guy, and if if I'm

515
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: in a dynasty startup and he falls further than that,

516
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 3: I'll gladly scoop him up.

517
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put him at ten, but I had him

518
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: much higher, and and you know, I gave arguments to

519
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people in Dynasty coming into this year,

520
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: if you played in a format where you could move

521
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: him around, he's the number one dynasty age. I don't care.

522
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't care about the I didn't care if he's

523
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: twenty nine meant nothing to me. I attempt at best

524
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: to think in three year windows. Sometimes they're a little

525
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: bit bigger four to five, but it's in that three

526
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: year window I think about. So if you give me

527
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 1: a twenty at that time, you know twenty eight year

528
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: old Shoho Tani, who you can move across both sides.

529
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: Number one. I'm not going to ding it too far

530
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: down just because of this armager. I think we can recover.

531
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of other interesting names. I do

532
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: not mean to be dismissive about them. Aaron Judge getting

533
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: a little bit older, Great Mookie Bets amazing playing second base,

534
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: making himself more valuable. Jordan Alvarez not talking about him

535
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: is kind of a travesty in here, but I'm making

536
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: a point here. In a second, guys like Luis Robert,

537
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: who had great years, Vlad had a down year, projections

538
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: still love him. We're building all these guys that I

539
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: think sit in this clump of like back half a

540
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: first round to mid second round. But where does Ellie

541
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: de la Cruz slot in? Because Ellie is maybe the

542
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: most polarizing Dynasty player out right now. Because there were

543
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: so many amazing positives, there's some bad warning sign negatives.

544
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: ADP for twenty twenty four alone is top twenty in NFBC.

545
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: This is the epitome of a young bet On Dynasty prospect,

546
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: but it comes with massive risk. So where do you

547
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: slot Ellie, especially knowing there are situations where it is

548
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: taking Ellie over Aaron Judge or taking Ellie over Vladimir

549
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: Carrera or Junior? How does that work for you?

550
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 3: So Ellie of the Cruz is by far the hardest

551
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: top twenty five guy in my Dynasty rankings I've ever

552
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: had to rank.

553
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: Usually the top twenty five are pretty easy, you know,

554
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 2: But he is.

555
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: Top twenty five though, yes.

556
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: Still absolutely is, but it's just so hard.

557
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: As I've had him, I even put him top back

558
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: in the top ten at one point, and honestly, I

559
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: think once you get past Jordon, like by seven, eight, nine,

560
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: soto Otani, Jordon and then, as I mentioned, it's the

561
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: you know, the early thirties guys that bets Harper's, you know,

562
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: Robert obviously injury risk and judging all those guys, I could.

563
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: See taking them as high as ten.

564
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: I think anything higher than that is just too risky

565
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: at this point, given you know, the contact issues, the

566
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: k ray issues that we've seen. But I could see

567
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: taking them, you know, ahead of Muki Harper. It's because

568
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: of the age difference. And even though you know the

569
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: ups and downs we saw from Dala Cruz in a

570
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: rookie year and remind everybody it was his rookie year

571
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: that he was still on like a twenty fifty three

572
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: pace or what something like that. So and he started

573
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: making those adjustments, like the O swing was going down

574
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: a little bit, walker it was going up.

575
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: So it's his turn to adjust back.

576
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: League guardy just to him, he needs to make that

577
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: adjustment back, and he started doing that. So I'm hoping

578
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: that carries over into twenty twenty four. It's weird saying

579
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, but right now, at this very point

580
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: in time, I half him fifty kind of in the

581
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: middle of.

582
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: All those older guys.

583
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like a weird spot for him

584
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: to be, but given like he has the upside, if

585
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: he makes some adjustments, he's never gonna hit you know,

586
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: three hundred plus.

587
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: But if you can just get in.

588
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: To sixty range, which with his power speak onbo absolutely

589
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: pup cant plus. You know, great American ballpark, the Babbitt

590
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: boost that ballpark brings, like, the upside is thirty plus

591
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 3: home runs, it's fifty plus deals. It's what Wit just

592
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: did last year. He can get up in the second tier. Absolutely,

593
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: so I think for that reason alone. He's twenty one

594
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 3: years old. He's the youngest player in my top twenty five.

595
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: I think next youngest is Gunner Henderson or Michael Harris.

596
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think he absolutely has to be top

597
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: twenty five, and I think at top fifteen is very

598
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: fair for him right now.

599
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: Encouraging early Steamer projections for twenty twenty four have him

600
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: with the tenth most stolen bases, have putting up a

601
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: twenty almost thirty season batting average serviceable, but he is

602
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: striking out thirty percent in early projections. He is a

603
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: very polarizing player. But I think you said it best.

604
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: You could take him as high as ten. I don't

605
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: think he's gonna make it past fifteen. If he makes

606
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: a past twenty, there you go. You got a great

607
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: dynasty option. One more debate and then we're going to

608
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: do a couple quick hitters here, Eric, And how about

609
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: the World Series MVP Corey Seeger, who was a huge

610
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: buy for so many people. He doesn't fit a narrative

611
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: I think in some instances as a sexy dynasty option.

612
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: I think many people would have had like Francisco Lindor

613
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: ahead of him coming into this year, quite a few guys.

614
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: But he's coming off of what was one of the

615
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: more impressive offensive seasons. Cory Seger versus This is the

616
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: epitome of dynasty. Corey Seeger versus Jackson Holiday. Jackson Holiday

617
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: has not hadn't a bat in the majors yet. He

618
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: is one or two I think in many people's prospect lists,

619
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: and one or two tends to equate to top twenty

620
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: five dynasty value. So what is the gap and what

621
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: side Corey Seeger versus Holiday in dynasty?

622
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: So I have Seger head by.

623
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: Eleven spots right now, I have Holiday at twenty nine

624
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: and Sega at eighteen. At this current point in time.

625
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: I have langforst my number one prosser. I have him

626
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: twenty four just cause anyone's wondering. So Cory Seger, obviously

627
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: he's kind of like the not the anti shortstop, but

628
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, most shortstops we draft provide a ton of speed.

629
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: Obviously he does not.

630
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: But when healthy, he is arguably one of the five

631
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: best hitters in the game. And we saw that this

632
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: year and into the postseason, back to back years of

633
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: thirty three home run You know, he's a career, you know,

634
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: nearly a three hundred hitter, just one of the best

635
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: peer hitters in the game, k under twenty percent each

636
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: of the last like six years, and he just can

637
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: be so good in four categories. And you know, still

638
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: twenty nine years old, I think, probably thirty before the

639
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: season starts, I think. But he's again stud and still

640
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: in a good prime of his career, not too old.

641
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: Got a great lineup around him that will be adding

642
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: guys like Whya at Langford next year, full year of

643
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: Evan Carter, will still having Adeleis Garcia, Marcsemi and everyone else,

644
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: Josh Young, and it's just gonna be a fun you know,

645
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: four category guide to roster and if you can get

646
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: your speed elsewhere, which is easier to do. I think

647
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: you could argue Welsh that maybe guys like Corey Seger

648
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: got to take up in value. It's kind of weird

649
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: to say a guy that with no speed got helped

650
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: by having more speed, But just because speed's more prevalent

651
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: now and easy to acquire, maybe these guys that will

652
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: provide speed like Sieger doesn't.

653
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: Aren't you know Dinged as much for that? What are

654
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that?

655
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's well said. I don't

656
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: think he provides the elite, elite power that you're looking for,

657
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: but I do think it's elite four categories or fantastic

658
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: great four categories. And you know something that was said

659
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: at first pitch, I think was a very astute thing.

660
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: The hardest category to try to fab batting average and

661
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: there are so many people that punt batting average rightfully

662
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: so for some reasons. But guess what I am doing

663
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: every single year dealing with batting average and I get

664
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: myself with that, And guess what Corey Seeger is elite

665
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: of the elite in batting average, and I think that

666
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: does give him a step ahead where did you say

667
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: you had him eighteen eighteen.

668
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's right in the range, like right around him,

669
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, Trey Turner, Devers, Joe Ram, guys like that.

670
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: Gu's where I have him eighteen eighteen. I also have

671
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: him at eighteen. That's weird, nic, But I do have

672
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: two prospects in my top twenty five. I have both

673
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: Jackson Holiday and White Langford. You kind of already answered

674
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: the question, and our quick hitters. White Langford is the

675
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 1: only prospect that made your top twenty five that has

676
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: not reached the majors. Correct?

677
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: That is correct?

678
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, And he's a phenomenal talent. He's worth it.

679
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: Here are quick hitters. Is Freddy Freeman too old for

680
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: the top twenty five?

681
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean he's twenty three. It's

682
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: I got to mention before we started recording. I'm glad

683
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: you put this one in because he's twenty five on

684
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: the dot for me right now, right behind why at

685
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: Langford And yeah, he's thirty four.

686
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: But has Freddy.

687
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: Given any indications if he has, I've completely missed them

688
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: that he's just you know, protection's gonna start falling off,

689
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: like he's almost like he's getting better, like he's aging

690
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: like fine wine right now. And yeah, you know he's

691
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: probably gonna start continue to slide down further first of

692
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: my ranking, so you would have to be talking this

693
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: time next year he's probably like, you know, thirty five

694
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: at thirty six of my rankings or something like that.

695
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: But for now, like this is, these are the guys

696
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: you still need, like you want if you want to win.

697
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: Now you look at Freddy Freeman because he might be

698
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: the safest hitter in the game, Like he's the only

699
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: guy that continues to put pump out, you know, first

700
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: run value after first run value, at the first round value.

701
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: He's durable as hell. And yeah again, and even he's

702
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: stole twenty bags this year, I think he like what

703
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: twenty three steals this year. Even Freddy's getting on the

704
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: stolen based parade here. So yeah, I don't think at

705
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: least for now. Again, could be changing in a year

706
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: or so, because it'll be thirty five next year, But

707
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: for now, I don't think he's told it all for

708
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: the top twenty five.

709
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: Number two, how many pitchers qualify for your top twenty five?

710
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: That would be a big old one.

711
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: Just Spencer Strider with McClanahan was in there before the injury.

712
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: Now he's obviously dropped out of my top twenty five,

713
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 3: and there's a few that are just outside of it,

714
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: like Corbyn Burns. I still have Garrett Cole in the thirties.

715
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: He's kind of, you know, the pitching version of Freddy

716
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: Freeman pretty much. You know, guys are getting close to me.

717
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: In another year or so year he could be up there.

718
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: Maybe you know Grayson Mandriguez, guys like that. But for

719
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: right now, just Strider obviously elite, you know, just turned

720
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: twenty five years old. Burns is close. I think Burns

721
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: was before this past year, but I think he's in that.

722
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: He's rid on thirty for me now by just Stryder

723
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: for right now.

724
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: I have Striyder, and I put Cole right at twenty five.

725
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Actually Cole is number twenty five. How Your Freeman is

726
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: one of the best pictures on the planet. Though, I

727
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: will tell you I do have another picture who makes

728
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: the top thirty, but we'll talk about him in the

729
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: last episode or in the next episode, the final one

730
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: for the top twenty five. Unless you have someone you think, egregiously,

731
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about that you'd like to mention who

732
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: just missed the top twenty five that bothers you especially

733
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about arbitrary number here, but a guy that

734
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: it is close, It could be twenty six, or it

735
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: could be a guy that's you really kind of batted around.

736
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: Who is your just miss top twenty five Dynasty player

737
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: that you want to highlight.

738
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: So there's a few right here in that thirty range. Now,

739
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: I got like Francisco Lindoor. You know, he makes me

740
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: question why I don't have him top twenty five. You know,

741
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: he's coming off, you know, one of the better years

742
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: of his career, which doesn't really get talked about. Obviously

743
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: everyone's talking about what you know, Akunya did. But a

744
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: very good here for Lindor. You know, yeah, he's a

745
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: little bit older he did. I think he just turned thirty.

746
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: He's a bit older than all these other shorts uts

747
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: we've already talked about. But the guy is you know, yeah,

748
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: he has had some ups and downs throughout the seasons,

749
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: but you know, overall you're still getting really good value.

750
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: More off to the not.

751
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: So he's a guy that I feel like I should

752
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: break talk twenty five, but can't bring myself to do

753
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: for whatever reason.

754
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: And then right for that.

755
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: You know, a guy that I think is a great

756
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: dynasty buyas wanted to just talk about real quick as

757
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: Jordan Walker.

758
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: We saw, you know, obviously expectations.

759
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't meet them this year because they

760
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: were incredibly lofty with the big spring training. He had

761
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 3: the two homer game, which I was in attendance at

762
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: and probably helped add to.

763
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: The hype as I posted videos of both home runs.

764
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: But you know, and he still had a pretty good

765
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 3: year if he actually actually look at it, you know,

766
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: look at savant page and theanographs and all that he was.

767
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: It was pretty good under the hood and was getting

768
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: better throughout the year, and obviously still has the massive upside.

769
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: He's the guy that we were talking about as top

770
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: ten you know this time next year.

771
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: I truly believe that.

772
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 3: So but you just couldn't do it with all the

773
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: names we already talked about, and a there is like Alonso, Austin, Riley, Gunner, Henderson,

774
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: et cetera. I just couldn't put him top twenty five.

775
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: If you looked at your top twenty five and you

776
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: had to highlight like two must have players that's arbitrary.

777
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: And I don't mean like Ronald Koe and Huli Rodriguez

778
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: like almost put yourself in a space of like, oh,

779
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: I have this pick in this however you want to

780
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: do it. Two must have massive targets for you in

781
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: the top twenty five.

782
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think add the enough Michael Harris might be

783
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: one of them. I have him chilling out at twenty

784
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: two right now, and I think the narrative out there

785
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: is that Michael Harris isn't that good and yeah, kind

786
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: of like was it in like Soto, how he had

787
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: like a slow start to the year. You know, he

788
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: actually you look at his overall line was really good

789
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 3: for the last you know, several months of the season

790
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 3: and still has you know, even if he is hitting

791
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: lower than the lineup, you can't imagine Harris is gonna

792
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: hit ninth forever in that lineup. But he's coming off

793
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: a eighteen homer twenty steel season in jest, you know,

794
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: five hundred and thirty nine play appearances nineteen and twenty

795
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: and one hundred and fourteen games last year, Like this

796
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: guy is gonna have maybe even next year to that

797
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: twenty five homer already still season and a guy that's

798
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: hit right under three hundred both the years seven NY three,

799
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: So I think people think that the value is lower

800
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: than it is. But this guy is still top twenty five. Yeah,

801
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: he doesn't walk much and thyb he's OBP formats. He

802
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: gets stinged a little bit. But you know, I think

803
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: long term, he you know, maybe is close to what

804
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker is now. I think the upside's there. So

805
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 3: he's a great buyer now because the perceived value on

806
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: him is I think a lot lower than it should be.

807
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: So Harris and then one other in that top twenty five,

808
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: who would you Harris is probably one of the higher

809
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: top twelve ish type of guys who would be a target.

810
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: You know what, I think I got another guy that

811
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: is a good value right now, Bryce Harper. I think

812
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 3: people are kind of wondering what to do with Bryce Harper,

813
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: and no, I staw have him eleventh, right in between

814
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: Mookie Betts and Luis Robert and my rankings. And you

815
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: look at what Harper did the last like half of

816
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: the season. He only came back but a third of

817
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: the way into the season or so, maybe a little

818
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: bit earlier than that. And obviously, you know, while the

819
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: average was still solid the first couple you know, month

820
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: and a half or whatever it was after he came back.

821
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: How are isn't quite there? Then the power's back now

822
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: he's playing first base now, and that might be something

823
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: that actually sticks moving forward from the sounds of it.

824
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: And I'm you know, people are kind of like always

825
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: losing o helfit eligibility.

826
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: I kind of like it Welsh because less wear and

827
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: tear on his body. Maybe this helps him stay in

828
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: the lineup more frequently and still have another four or five,

829
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 3: you know, really good elite, top fifteen caliber years.

830
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: So I think Ryce Harper's a gould buy right now too.

831
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: I think that's a great pick. And I think Eric

832
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Cross is a great Dynasty mind. Eric Cross Aero four

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00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: On the Twitter, people are looking for more Dynasty content.

834
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: How can they find it for me?

835
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: Eric?

836
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, got stuff going on over on my patron all

837
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: the time, toolshit Fantasy dot Com doing team by team

838
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: prospect rankings, team by team, Dynasty of Ports and all

839
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: my other rankings, FYPD, Dynasty Project are all there doing

840
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: stuff over at Rotoballer as well, and on the Toolship podcast.

841
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: There you go, easy stuff, great Dynasty Top twenty five

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00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: with Air Cross. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed the podcast.

843
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Eric Cross for making this

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Speaker 1: Dynasty conversation even better and we're going to keep rolling.

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