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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hans has to come to you

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Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Cecli, Greg

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Speaker 1: Hey West. That now that sounded like the rantings of

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Speaker 1: our show. Well you think he might be losing um

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Speaker 1: That's true, out of sight, out of mind. Meanwhile, nefarious

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Speaker 1: activities potentially down yonder This is the week thirteen recappec episode.

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Speaker 1: It is our flagship show. Every week where we talk

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, A Sunday that was gloriously um low

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Speaker 1: But for this Sunday, you wake up this morning, and

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Speaker 1: COVID references for the rest of the show. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into every game, starting today's show. Uh with a

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Speaker 1: game that I know Mark Sessler will treasure until his

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Speaker 1: the show. Browns, Browns, Browns, Browns, Browns nine three. We

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Speaker 1: were waiting for a big Baker performance. We got it

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. The former number one pick through four first

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Speaker 1: Football was the final over the Titans. Sessler Cleveland didn't

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Speaker 1: this game and it didn't happen this time. And and

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Speaker 1: to me, it like gave me hope that there is

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Speaker 1: a team in the NFC East that's really interesting. Le coached. Um,

429
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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of this team has a

430
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Speaker 1: lot of confidence in themselves, and I don't really I

431
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: won't really point to the offense other than say that

432
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: like Wayne Goldman week after week does does more than

433
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: we would have expect someone named Wayae Goldman to do.

434
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: He had a big sixty yard run today, Alfred Morris.

435
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Speaker 1: There was at one point when Colt McCoy threw a

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Alfred Morris to put them up um

437
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: by a chunk, And I thought, what is happening here?

438
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Speaker 1: This is twenty and it's beautiful. Um call McCoy just

439
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: did he did just enough. You know, he's he is

440
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Speaker 1: who he is. We moment, I bet he was. He

441
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: wasn't sure he was ever going to get something like

442
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Speaker 1: a road win in Seattle. Ever again, well you're right

443
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Speaker 1: at this his first win since and he made a

444
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: couple a couple of big throws, especially late in the game,

445
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Speaker 1: to help uh, you know, chip in one last field goal.

446
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: It was a gutsy win for the Giants. And I

447
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: think that, like these teams are two or three teams

448
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, and they're a very

449
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Speaker 1: different team than they were in September. It's funny because

450
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Speaker 1: I remember talking on this podcast. I was talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the different teams and looking ahead, and the

452
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: Giants were viewed as an also ran and not a

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Speaker 1: team to take serious. And perhaps there are still not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they're the they're leading NFC East, and

455
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: there's sub five hundreds, so we can't get two carried

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Speaker 1: away with this. But I remember specifically a conversation like

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Speaker 1: name one player of merit UH an impact player on

458
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Speaker 1: their defense. And fast forward now to early December, and

459
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Speaker 1: it's their defense that just went to Seattle and dropped

460
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Speaker 1: a bomb on Russell Wilson. I think it's a testament

461
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Speaker 1: to a couple of things. I mean, number one, UH coaching, well,

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Speaker 1: number one the players for their ability to execute. Number

463
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Speaker 1: two coaching, And three there have been some moves here,

464
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Speaker 1: and I know I tread carefully here West it's not

465
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Speaker 1: safe space around these parts. Dave Gettleman made some moves

466
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Speaker 1: that went under the radar, including Leonard Williams getting him

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Speaker 1: in the building, James Bradberry, Blake Martinez. These guys have

468
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Speaker 1: built Jabrill Peppers, have built the foundation of a good defense. Now, well, yeah,

469
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Speaker 1: I don't think you want to really get into Dave

470
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: him in draft picks, but his free agent hall has

471
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Speaker 1: been magnificent. The guys, you guys both mentioned James Bradberry

472
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Speaker 1: having a legitimate Pro Bowl you're, if not all pro,

473
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Speaker 1: Blake Martinez having a career year, Leonard Williams having a

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Speaker 1: career year, if not a Pro Bowl year. All three

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Speaker 1: of those guys were free agents, and Leonard Williams was

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Speaker 1: a priority for them. M I mean in the biggest

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Speaker 1: pick he made was Judge. If we're got you know,

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Speaker 1: to me, that Judge hires Graham away from Miami, that

479
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Speaker 1: was a win win. Miami didn't need to let him

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Speaker 1: leave that that was kind of interesting. He was their coordinator.

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Speaker 1: He had to ask for permission. They decided to help

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Speaker 1: out his career. I think he's close with Flora's. Both

483
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Speaker 1: sides are winning with that. But hiring Judge and Judge

484
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Speaker 1: iron Graham and that is you gotta give Gettleman credit

485
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Speaker 1: for that. They should be better than I know. They're

486
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Speaker 1: five and seven, but they they lost some brutal ones

487
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: early and to me, they're playing much better, much better

488
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: two losses in this stretch. Now they've won four straight.

489
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: The two losses before that were by one and two points,

490
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Speaker 1: so like this team could easily you could flip their

491
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Speaker 1: record right now, so they really are I think what's

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Speaker 1: up goes the other way. They could have lost to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals last week too, I know, but they dominated

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Speaker 1: that game. That's okay, that's they seemed to me. And

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Speaker 1: this is also dangerous footing in this season to be

496
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Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC East. Uh and they

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00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: we can wait a week, but that's true right now.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, by the way, I'm you know, I know

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Speaker 1: we haven't done the fork all year other than your guys.

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00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: Is regrettable premature forking of the forty niners. But I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm sticking a fork in in Russell Wilson's m v

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Speaker 1: P campaign. I think you tried to a week ago

503
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: and I stick got in your way. Um, but now

504
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: two more turtles. It's probably like a two man race

505
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: now right against Homes. He's out of it. Kyler is

506
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: out to stick a fork and Kyler as well been out.

507
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: It was never in well, I thought Russell was out

508
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, but apparently I think I

509
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: never know any MVB talk. It's like, are we even

510
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Speaker 1: allowed to have it because I haven't seen played well

511
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Speaker 1: enough that if he had gone on fire the last

512
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: five weeks of the season, you couldn't have told me

513
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been in the mix. But don't we

514
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Speaker 1: trust it? Like some too many problems. Don't we trust

515
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Speaker 1: some voters who watched like only the team on their

516
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: like local TVs, probably throwing a few votes out there

517
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: that don't make a lot of sense, or are we?

518
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: Are they more sound than that? At this point you're

519
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Speaker 1: saying you're not standing behind Tony Dungee voting for Bobby

520
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: Wagner in that I mean, I'm not allowed into the

521
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Pro Football Writers Association, so obviously you know they're afraid

522
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Speaker 1: of what I might vote for. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: glance over though, the fact that the Seahawks got shut

524
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Speaker 1: down at home by the Giants, Uh, that is that's strange.

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Speaker 1: This is a team of full strength. You had Chris Carson,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Tyler Lockett, DK Metcalf. You would think that

527
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: points would rain down, and yet the offense is going

528
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: in the wrong direction as the defense is getting better,

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00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: and ain't this life? The offense is going the other way.

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Speaker 1: It was pass rush, I mean like Wilson is deals

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Speaker 1: with pass rush really well. But they got to him,

532
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, and they they ended drives um, and they could,

533
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: like I said, it confused him. And just don't see

534
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: that happen too often. It is. I think it's just

535
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: more like, let's warm up to what this Giant's defense

536
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: might actually be. This line has been bad for a month.

537
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: Though they've been bad for a month. They were bad

538
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: on Monday Night against the Eagles too. I mean, I

539
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: think they've been bad for a month, and it's a

540
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: lot to overcome. Their offensive line was bad today. Cheff

541
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: Wheeler got destroyed, he got killed. Um. Wilson doesn't usually

542
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: express himself too much on the field, but you could,

543
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: like Mark said, he could see it on his face.

544
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: He was frustrated with the lack of protection he was getting. Uh.

545
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: And the Giants, like the Great Giants defenses of yesteryear,

546
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: um getting pressure without needing to blitz that the front

547
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: four doing the damage. All right, let's move up Bailey

548
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: from three to walk off snap spot Bailey sixth. When

549
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: the Vikings win, even Paul Allen's like, you really, Vikings,

550
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: you really mean to get excited after that performance? Paul

551
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Speaker 1: Allen and k f A n You know, the Jaguars

552
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: have perfected the art of almost winning. Harrison Smith intercepted

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00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon in overtime, setting up a dramatic chip shot

554
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: game winner from Dan Bailey and the Vikings four overtime

555
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: win at US Bank Stadium. The Vikings, once left for dead,

556
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: are now six and six, and I believe right now

557
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: they sit in the seventh spot for the playoffs. So

558
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: quite a season turnaround from Minnesota. Greg. This game, like

559
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: the game up there in the Great Pacific Northwest, looked

560
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: like a blowout on paper? Why didn't it play out

561
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: that way? The Vikings offensive line more than anything, But man,

562
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: they find ways to not win games. I think that's

563
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: been a trade of their's. And I know they came

564
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: back and won the game last week and Joey Slide

565
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: missed the kicker else you know they wouldn't have, but

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00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: they just they've had times this year when they can

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Speaker 1: put the game away. Even during this etch where Cousins

568
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: is playing well, Like a couple of weeks ago, you

569
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: get two chances to go beat the Cowboys at the end,

570
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: don't do it on offense. I counted six straight drives

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Speaker 1: late in this game after they took over against you know,

572
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: an underman Jaguars team got the lead after being down

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00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: by ten points to the Vikings credit. You score two touchdowns,

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00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: you get a lead, six more possessions. The Vikings offense

575
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything. A couple of those started in Jacksonville territory,

576
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: so the Vikings defense would keep setting them up over

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Speaker 1: and over and either Cousins missed the throw, or they're

578
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: running too much on early downs or the past protection collapses.

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Speaker 1: That was probably the number one thing where you got

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Speaker 1: to the point where the Jaguars had the ball in

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Speaker 1: overtime with the chance to win, because the Vikings blew

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00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: their first chance in overtime, and you're thinking, wow, are

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00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: they really got to blow this game to Mike Glennon

584
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: who scored eight points on you know, a game time

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00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: drive to get the overtime. No, No, the vi the

586
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: Jaguars are too good at losing these close games didn't happen.

587
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: That so disappointing because obviously, as a Jets fan, if

588
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: you can get the if you can get the Jaguars

589
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: to two wins or even a win in a tie,

590
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: you're feeling awesome. About the Trevor sweep steaks. And when

591
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: you get the three and out and the Vikings punting

592
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: from deep in their own end, you're like, all right,

593
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: we're cooking here, just need a field goal. Then then

594
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: the punt goes deep, and then there's a penalty that

595
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: pushes them back to inside their own twenty, and then

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00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: they have an open DJ shark over the middle near

597
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Speaker 1: midfield and Mike Glennon. Glennon's it uh for the I

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Speaker 1: N T And it was all she wrote after that.

599
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: I believe the last five Jaguars losses have all been

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Speaker 1: by four points or less, something in that range. So

601
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: some good teams too. It's incredible how they week after

602
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: week they hang in these games. You go, leading into

603
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: the week, everyone's just talking about how terrible their defense

604
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Speaker 1: is and how the quarterback stinks and all this, and

605
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Speaker 1: then in the fourth quarter it's tied with two minutes

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00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: to play. I guess I would give you hope that

607
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: whether you know, if you're someone that's looking, uh, they're

608
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: looking to hire a head coach and in a general

609
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: manager after this season, potentially you had a quarterback, like

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00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: a game changing quarterback to that mix. They're not maybe

611
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: that far away. I mean something. None of these guys

612
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: are gonna be there anyway, so who knows what they're

613
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: gonna are they gonna dump the entire roster off the mountain? Well,

614
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying the new coach for the new coach coming in,

615
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: or like the new regime, like there's something to sell here.

616
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not a total trash bag on fire,

617
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: but I go ahead, West. I would say there's one

618
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: beat scribe in Jacksonville who has been saying all years

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Speaker 1: since September that he's guaranteeing the Jaguars are a playoff

620
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: team next year. He's that impressed with their young talent.

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Speaker 1: I think they are talented. I mean, Shark made a

622
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: couple of great plays. James Robinson has been awesome. You know,

623
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Miles jack is in his prime. I don't know if

624
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: they have a ton of talent on and they lost.

625
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is you come out for this game

626
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: and it started as bad as bad for the Vikings

627
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: as possible. Eric Kendricks hurt himself fifteen minutes before the game,

628
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: which you never hear, like the post inactive injury that

629
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: doesn't happen too much. So he's out and the Jaguars

630
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: are up nine nothing and have thirteen first downs before

631
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings have three, and then there's kind of a

632
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: flukey interception that that turns around. But it's just surprising

633
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: to see them get dominated for stretches the Vikings. You've

634
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: seen that where like they look like the inferior team

635
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: here in the first quarter and in the fourth quarter,

636
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: it didn't seem that Flukey Glennon. Glennon had three turnovers

637
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: and you know it was not the solution. He also

638
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: had a bunch of dimes, especially on that game time drive.

639
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Speaker 1: So that that's been the experience. That's the experience of them.

640
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Kirk Cousins I see over his last five

641
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: games has fourteen touchdowns, two picks. I mean he's been

642
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: clean today. Might I mean you're saying today was problematic

643
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: to some degree, but I mean they wasn't on him.

644
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: I don't trust their old line. But there's six and six.

645
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: They're in the playoffs right now. That's insane to me. Well,

646
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: they had the Bucks and Saints as two of three

647
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: opponents over the next three weeks, with the Bears and

648
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Lions around that, So that's that's doable. You're gonna have

649
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: to pull off an upset there though, I think over

650
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: one of these heavies. The Kendricks injury and it was

651
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: a caf injury reminds me speaking of old Jets misery.

652
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: Back in Neil o'donald was fumbling his way through his

653
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: first season with the team, and during pregame warmups, he

654
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: took a step on where the helmet was painted in

655
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: the end zone and it was slick and he slid

656
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: and tore his calf muscle. That so hopefully it's not

657
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: something that serious. But whenever a calf muscle uh tears,

658
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I think of Neil O'Donnell. Any other thoughts on this game?

659
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, Let's move on. Comes car back

660
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: now he comes up, gonna fire again, going for Rugs.

661
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: Rugs has got it. Touchdown, Jack Pott Ferry, Vegas touchdown,

662
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Vegas touchdown. Jack Pott had away Uncle Brent with the

663
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: call for k r LV. Yes. The Raiders needed a

664
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: miracle to keep their season from circling the drain. They

665
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: got it in the form of a Derek car forty

666
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: six yard touchdown past the Henry Ruggs with seconds to play,

667
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: the difference in a thirty one to win over the

668
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: off fore mentioned New York Jets at the Jersey Mental Lands.

669
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: UM the play and you heard it and everybody was twitter.

670
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: Middle school was going crazy about the Jets tanking. The

671
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: Jets are not tanking. Jets play really hard UH in

672
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: this game, and they essentially, after scoring uh ten unanswered

673
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: points in UH the fourth quarter, were poised for a win. UH.

674
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: They got a fourth down stop late in the fourth quarter. UH,

675
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: Oakland had to get a three and out stop from

676
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: the Jets, which they got. Jets punted away and essentially

677
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: all the Jets need to do is keep UH did

678
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: I say Oakland a bunch of times in Vegas uh

679
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: from beating him with a deep ball. And for whatever reasons,

680
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: Greg Williams chose this moment with the Raiders at midfield

681
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: with no time outs down four UH to bring the

682
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: house on a blitz. And it's notable. Everyone knows what

683
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: happens and you just heard it. UH. When you bring

684
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: the house on a blitz, you leave three defensive backs

685
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: to cover three players streaking down the field, and then

686
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: you have to remember who the personnel is. And I

687
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: think this is what the defensive cordiner he missed as well.

688
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Greg Williams. You had Henry Ruggs, a gifted prospect, uh

689
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: with four two speed first round pick against Lamar Jackson.

690
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Not that Lamar Jackson, the undrafted free agent Lamar Jackson

691
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: who was cutting camp and brought back when the Jets

692
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: had injury issues. You leave him on an island and

693
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: Jackson bites on the double move and it's a gimme

694
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: touchdown and no help overtop from a safety because the

695
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: safety is in one on one coverage with the guy

696
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: in the slot. It was. It was. It was amateur

697
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: hour by Greg Williams in a terrible call. And after

698
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: the game, Marcus May who was on the field and

699
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: you know he's a good player, and uh he he

700
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: couldn't help but take a shot at Greg Williams. Yeah,

701
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: I just thought we could have been a better call.

702
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: Uh at that time in that point of the game.

703
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Got execute. But you gotta help us all at the

704
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: same time to be no better. So you can you

705
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: can tell me Greg that this is a good thing

706
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: for the Jets ultimately, and maybe it was. But if

707
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: you are following this team, and if you followed any

708
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: team that's been through a season like this, you understand

709
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: that this is weighing on them. It it kind of

710
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: becomes part of their identity. Uh. And to play this

711
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: hard and to lose again and now be staring at

712
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: oh and twelve with four games to infamy. I just

713
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: felt so bad for those guys and just angry with

714
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: the coaching. I mean, he's Greg Williams, Gonda, Greg Williams.

715
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: There there's a pretty you know, logical belief that in

716
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: a hail mary situation, which this one wasn't quite, that

717
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: you send pressure. And in fact, whenever coaches don't send

718
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: pressure in hail Mary's, everyone always yells why didn't they

719
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: send pressure? You also have a guy out there, you know,

720
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson covering rugs who bites on on a double

721
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: move where when he can absolutely not, that's the last

722
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: thing that he can do. There's different ways to send pressure.

723
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: That's crazy to say that you gotta have a zero

724
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: blitz though right I'm not saying you gotta have in

725
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: that situation. It's he's gonna Greg Williams. It's kind of

726
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: like him and Gaze. I was thinking at the end

727
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: of this game, are such poor matches because Gaze is

728
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: afraid of his own shadow coaches that way, even when

729
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: his team is good, even when the Dolphins made the playoffs,

730
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: he was afraid of his own shadow. There was no

731
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: way he was gonna let Sam Donald throw the ball

732
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: on third and six to go win a ballgame. Like

733
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: he just wasn't gonna do it. That's fine, and you

734
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: could you can say that's that's the percentage play, that's

735
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: the way to do. There's no way he's gonna do

736
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: because he's he's just afraid, whereas Greg Williams is like

737
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: the total opposite, and it is just like balls to

738
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: the wall. No matter what I saw Donald go aheads,

739
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, so, Dan, does the tank

740
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: talk incorporate this decision to blitz with the game online? Well,

741
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: that's what the you know, the jokes are is on Twitter,

742
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: we're saying. But obviously this is where that logic falls apart,

743
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: is that Greg Williams and Adam Gates for that matter,

744
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: aren't gonna be within a hundred miles of Trevor Lawrence

745
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: if he's in the Jets huddle come September. So they

746
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: stand nothing to gain unless they have some type of

747
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: loyalty the team to the team that's signing their paychecks.

748
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: For the next month, which obviously is not the case.

749
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: It was just a terrible call by a coach who

750
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: should have known better with his level of experience, that

751
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: you have to coach to your personnel and he didn't there.

752
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: And that's why I felt bad for Lamar Jackson. That

753
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: guy's you know, a borderline uh NFL player, and you're

754
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: putting him in that position to get beat and have

755
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: the goat horns, and really, where where they should be,

756
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: where they deserve to be, is on the coach. And

757
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the rest of the game,

758
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: you had Sam Donald contributing three touchdowns, kind of breaking

759
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: out of his funk, uh and the Jets running for

760
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: over two hundred yards. And speaking of Adam Gates being

761
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: you know, having issues with just all sorts of things

762
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: in his role, it took Frank Gore suffering a brain

763
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: injury to get him out of the game plan. And

764
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: as soon as he was and they gave some young

765
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: guys the chance during the football uh Ty Johnson and

766
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: Josh Adams made play. So it's like, I don't know,

767
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: like everything everything about this Jets team is broken, But

768
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: the coaching again stepped to the forefront in this game

769
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: and on the radar side of things, Uh, good job

770
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: you've got you got the win. Uh that was that

771
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: was you know, gutsy being able to come back there.

772
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: But at the same time it's like, oh my god,

773
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: you barely beat the Jets after getting to royed by

774
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: the Falcons. So it's not inspiring a ton of confidence

775
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: going forward. Someone like when it comes to this tank

776
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: business like unless great, unless they've found um like a

777
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: model of Greg Williams, and he's just he's not a

778
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: real person that they have. Like just playing Greg Williams,

779
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: you think he wants to owen sixteen seasons on his

780
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: resume over the course of just a couple of years.

781
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's never got a call. Plays again, these

782
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: are the last games, and he's gonna go out saying

783
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: remember me, I'm Greg Williams. That's to me, that's the

784
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: through line of all Greg Williams calls is he wants

785
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: you to know he's there, and so he did in

786
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: this game and he wanted to end it with a

787
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: flourish and end and everyone knows he was there. It's

788
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: about Greg Williams, right, It's about Greg. One little um

789
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Brent must bigger note and I'm sure everyone here knows this,

790
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: but if listeners do not. When he used to host

791
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: NFL Today on CBS, and he would open the show

792
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: by saying, you are looking live at Chicago's Soldier Field.

793
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: It isn't for us who were young at that point

794
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: liking football. It was to show last minute gamblers back

795
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: in the day when you had no access, what the

796
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: field conditions looked like, what the wind looked like, so

797
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: that those last minute gamblers had as much information as

798
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: they possibly could. This guy is way into uh the

799
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: desert happenings. I'll tell you that company right in his

800
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: final years. Uh, he's in his eighties now he has

801
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: found his perfect spot. I want a little shout out also,

802
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: by the way, to Darren Waller, who's had I would

803
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: say a disappointing season on balance, but he was uncoverable

804
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: in this game, thirteen for two hundred and two touchdowns.

805
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: So Darren Waller. Huge for the Raiders who have a

806
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: speaking of huge, huge matchup against the Colts next week.

807
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: Two teams vying for UH playoff spots. And you know what,

808
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: this just shows the old zuser magnanimous as always. If

809
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: this happened to another team, I'd like to hear the

810
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: other teams the losing team's radio call. I don't want

811
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: to hear the Jets announcer for the first time getting

812
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: his heartbroken, but I think the audience might. Let's listen

813
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: to Bob with Susan. Here comes it all out, blitz

814
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: step some of the pocket unloads one down the left

815
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: sideline looking for Rots, drops it in touchdown? Are you

816
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: kidding me? Henry rocks down the sideline and car finds

817
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: him for a go ahead touchdown with five seconds to go. Now,

818
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: that's unbelievable, Bob, unbelievable. How you can allow a receiver

819
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: to get behind you unbelievable, unbelievable. Indeed, let's move on.

820
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: Really torn about this, It was not even upset. It

821
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: is picked up by the Colty walker and the Colts

822
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: have a takeaway. Been a bubble recovery. He was a

823
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: fat stead back to Watson and then Rick a shade

824
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: off of his hip, and then it was a mad

825
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: dash to get the football around the ten yard line

826
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: and the Colts get an absolute gift, an absolute gift.

827
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: It was Matt Taylor w f N I with the call.

828
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: The snap was low Deshaun Watson couldn't handle it, and

829
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: the Colts pounced on the ball. The goal line turnover

830
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: served as the defining play and in the win over

831
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: the Texans, greg the Colts got two early Philip Rivers

832
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: touchdowns on that bad foot and then the huge takeaway

833
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: when they needed it most. It was a fitting way

834
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: for this Texans um season in terms of any hopes

835
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: at all, you know to end, which is that Deshaun

836
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: Watson plays a great game overall, puts them on the

837
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: doorstep of a stunning win just a couple of yards away,

838
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: and one of his teammates lets him down because his

839
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: teammates have been letting him down all year. Will Fuller

840
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: let him down for getting suspended. The offensive line was

841
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: terrible today and he had had as good a half

842
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: as he's had all year, which is saying, you know,

843
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: he's had so many of those. I feel like where

844
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: he just is on fire for half in the first

845
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: half of this game because his offensive line was terrible. Um,

846
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: but they go into halftime and it's twenty four to twenty,

847
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: they're barely behind, and then you have the snap at

848
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: the end of the game where they blow it. It

849
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: was a strange game. More than five yards of offense

850
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: to twenty in the first half combined. Neither offense scored

851
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: in the second half. The only score was a safety

852
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: by the Colts. It was really hard to see come

853
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: in the point because Watson has been playing out of

854
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: his mind. It's in Andre Dawson seven year with the

855
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: Cubs West to use a baseball reference there, but have

856
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: we reached the point where there are too many weapons

857
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: stripped away and and Watson is going to struggle to

858
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: put up points for the rest of the year. It

859
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: reminds me of the sort of the inverse of those

860
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald teams when they were dragging guys off the

861
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: couch to play quarterback, and Fitzgerald he could tell this

862
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: is a guy at the top of his profession. Deshaun

863
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: Watson has reached that level too. I mean, he's the

864
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: top tier quarterback now and he's just not getting the

865
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: help from his teammates. To be fair, you know, to

866
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: the Colts defense, DeForrest Buckner gets a couple of sacks,

867
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: they get a safety on Watson where they kind of

868
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: surprised them with the stunt. Uh. They forced a fumble

869
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: on Watson in the second halpsod. It wasn't wasn't perfect

870
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: from him, but I would say, no, he's still dangerous Dan,

871
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: because Kiki Qt had a hundred and forty one yards

872
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: and someone named Chad Hanson had one hundred and one yards.

873
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: So I hope you played the Hanson I think I

874
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: hope you played him in your DFS league because he

875
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: can turn anyone I guess into a hundred yard receiver.

876
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: Justin Houston had three sacks I saw, So I mean,

877
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: I guess the You know, you can't look at the

878
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Titans game last week for the cults and say it's

879
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: all because of DeForrest Buckner and Denico Autry, But DeForest

880
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: Buckner has got to be as valuable, top five valuable

881
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: defensive player right now. Cann't you picture remember Elliott Gould's

882
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: glasses in Ocean's eleven with a thick frames and wear

883
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: silk robe. Can't you see Greg in Vegas in his

884
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: golden years, essentially just running some type of book. Uh,

885
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: and he dresses like that every day with those glasses. Greg,

886
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: you could see that as maybe one outcome. I like

887
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: the outfits. I don't want to be living in Vegas,

888
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm totally into the robes and all of that.

889
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: That put a smile on Greg's face. There may be

890
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: no Los Angeles by the time you're retired. Vegas maybe

891
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: all that's left. So don't you know, Vegas could be

892
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: the coast. You never know. I'm lucky to get out

893
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: of this one with the wind. And they're they're they're

894
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: they're on their third left tackle. They lost their backup

895
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: left tackle right at the beginning of this game. J J.

896
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: Watt had a monster game. They need to run, I

897
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: think to be effective, and Jonathan Taylor is running better,

898
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: but they still couldn't even run when it mattered, even

899
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: against the Texans, and so that that worries me about

900
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: the Colts. Ever d yards per carry and they couldn't matter.

901
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: They couldn't run when it matter in this game. They

902
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: first of all, they were so run heavy, I mean

903
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: so past heavy for most of it. And yeah, they

904
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: couldn't you know, in the in the second half of

905
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: this game, they had a million chances, kind of like

906
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: the Vikings to put it away in the offense literally

907
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: couldn't couldn't score a point in the second half. I

908
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: feel like I have less of a handle on who's

909
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: gonna win the an f C South than who's gonna

910
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: win the NFC East because the Titans, they just they

911
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: continue to play tricks with my mind. My mind and

912
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: the cults are similar where I I struggled to buy

913
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: in on the Colts and we talked a little bit.

914
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: We have more information than we had on Thursday. There

915
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: was a report that the nature of this Philip Rivers injury,

916
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna need surgery after the year, that it's something

917
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: it's like basically the equivalent of super turf toe, only

918
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: it's on a nearly forty year old quarterback who already

919
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: can't move and doesn't have the strongest arm. So it

920
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: seems like something that could be a massive hindrance going

921
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: down the stretch. The schedules are pretty close. I think

922
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: the Titans are a little easier. I think the cult.

923
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: I think they're both going to get in. Cults play

924
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: the Raiders next week, which is a big one. All right,

925
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: let us move on holds the back row and so

926
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: get Sicky touchdown? What did doubt? Mike Na sick tone

927
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Cefalo w q A M with the call welcome

928
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: back to uh to Go Viola by Loa connected with

929
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: Mike and a pretty five yeard touchdown. The Dolphins did

930
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: what they needed to do and sloppy you know, a

931
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: lot of bad blood, a lot of you know, people

932
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: getting objected, but at the end of the day, it

933
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: was a nineteen to seven win over the Bangals. Mr Sessler,

934
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: how did to a look in his return from that

935
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: thumb injury. I'll say, first of all, this song fits

936
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: the tone of this game. This felt like sort of

937
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: a old street fight rolling Ricky. Yeah, it deserves to

938
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: keep rolling. How did you look first half? Um, Dolphin's

939
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: offense very stagnant? To Uh, I thought inaccurate, Um, I thought,

940
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, second half At halftime, it was fair to

941
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: ask this team is in a playoff, Chase, do you

942
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: bench too and bring in Fitzpatrick who the offense frankly

943
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: has just looked better with more in flow. Um, to

944
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: it came back and played a better second half. I

945
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: think Mike Asecki is like the center of their passing

946
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: game half the time. UM, and I like him, but

947
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: to it to me, just it's not you're not getting

948
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: full games from him. Um. He also had his hand

949
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: and wrist wrapped, and I know that the broadcaster said

950
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: that they that he said to them that he hoped

951
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: during the week not to have it wrapped because it

952
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable basically to play with, which makes tons of sense,

953
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: So that could have been a factor. Um, but he

954
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: he had a better second half this game though. Um.

955
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: Their defense it was very Dolphins as the defense took

956
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: over and the Brandon Allen who played an all right

957
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: first half for Brandon Allen and what you're asking him

958
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: to do in a lost situation, They had like negative

959
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: two yards in the second half with like minutes to

960
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: go in the game, well right, they they were that

961
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: was the thing. Their offense just literally is a complete

962
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: lost operation at this point. So the Dolphins, um, their

963
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: defense picked up and to and to your point on

964
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: this bad Blood, I mean to sum it up quickly

965
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 1: because a lot of stuff happened early in the game.

966
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Xavien Howard and Tyler board Boyd got into it with

967
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: some fisticuffs. They were they were knocked out of there, ejected.

968
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: Then in the second half to punt returns in a row,

969
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: Jachem Grant was whacked by Bengals safety Mike Thomas. I mean,

970
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: really rough, ridiculous hits and this is something that showed

971
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: me something about the Dolphins that I really like. Um.

972
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: Shawn Williams of the Bengals was ejected DeVante Parker mac

973
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: hollins after the Basically the Dolphins team left their bench

974
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: and went and confronted the Bengals. And it wasn't just then.

975
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: It was Brian Flores right in the center of it,

976
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: marching out into the field. And I think there's a

977
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: bunch of coaches. Um, I don't know if you're getting

978
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: Vic Fongio to run out into him the middle of

979
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: a melee, maybe you are. He's a little bit cantankerous,

980
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: tough dude. He he might be the guy. But Flora's

981
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: to me, Um, And afterwards he said, look, I shouldn't

982
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: have done that. I should have kept my head about me.

983
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: But I believe in my players. And it's another week

984
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: where all the players are saying, like Flores is that dude.

985
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: So it was messy, but it kind of showed me

986
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: something about how tight this team is, um, and they're

987
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: eating for They're very imperfect. I'm not sure who their

988
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: better quarterback is right now. UM. Future wise, that's a

989
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: different story. But their schedule going from here is an

990
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: absolute mess. It's the Chiefs, the Raiders, the Patriots, and

991
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: the Bills. So we'll see what happens. But it is

992
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: a step forward from last year. I think everyone asked

993
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: would they make a step forward? It was last year's

994
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: ending a mirage. It's not a mirage. They're they're a

995
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: really well coached team. They just don't have all the parts. Well,

996
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: remember Mark, you have them going to the super Bowl.

997
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: So you need more than just a year over year improvement.

998
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: You need something very special here. Nobody will remember that

999
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: prediction Dolphins Dolphin's Cardinals at mid season. It's that felt

1000
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: like the way you said that felt like it was

1001
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: one ft off the Dolphins, who have only lost one

1002
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: game since you made that prediction. To be fair, it

1003
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: was previously the Cowboys from the NFC, So you know

1004
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: I did improve my standing some degree. Predictions have you made?

1005
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: What you do West is you make eighty or ninety

1006
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: and they wanted and you trump at the one and

1007
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: they're like that guy keeps nailing these prognostications overpowers. They

1008
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: asked us they did on the dot com for the

1009
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: mid season prediction. I don't think you should have. I

1010
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: don't think that makes sense. You should just keep your

1011
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: priest right. We should I stuck with Cowboys though, and

1012
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: then I got your fault just putting this one on

1013
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: the editors. I'm putting it on bad coaching. And I'm

1014
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: not surprised these two teams fought. When the Bengals and

1015
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: the Dolphins get together, the rivalry is fierce. There's a

1016
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: lot of feelings the window. You had the Cam wake

1017
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: safety walk off touchdown on Thursday Night Football. You've had

1018
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: a couple of other crazy Dolphins Bengals games. It always

1019
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: just gets why Thomas are attached to the Bengals. I'm not,

1020
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm not. I've not seen not the positive record books.

1021
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: By the way, how does Mike Thomas not get ejected

1022
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: from that game? Was it was that in honor of

1023
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, former infamous Bengals not get ejected Mike Thomas.

1024
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: He didn't a guy that that leveled on special teams

1025
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: twice Dolphins player on on the weekend that former Bengals

1026
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: goon Vante's berthe got arrested. Uh, he should have been

1027
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: shown the showing the gate, but he was labled to

1028
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: stay in that game while everyone battled around him throughout

1029
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: the game. The one thing I would say is like,

1030
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I would the last job

1031
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: i'd ever, one of the last jobs that I want

1032
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: is to be a ref. I think it sounds like

1033
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: an absolute nightmare. And there were suddenly like seventy people

1034
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: fighting with each other, and there's like four refs with

1035
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: like little notebooks flipping their little notebooks trying to figure

1036
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: out who to toss. It was like chaos. Respect my authority.

1037
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Ryan takes the snap, drops back,

1038
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw on down the center of the offends

1039
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: don't complete in the Saints defense holds on fourth down.

1040
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Employ What a big, big mistake by Todd Gurley to

1041
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: put them in that situation. Oh that's that never happens.

1042
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley doing something stupid. Zack Streep with the call

1043
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: w w L Yes tay some Hill through through Yes,

1044
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: I said it. Two touchdown passes in the Saints defense

1045
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: stood strong once again when necessary. Uh in win over

1046
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: the Falcons. That is nine consecutive wins for the Saints

1047
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: and UH for me, the big takeaway was Hill This

1048
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: was progress game one. Start one man for me, start

1049
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: to scary start three. He actually looks like a quarterback

1050
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: he drops back, he looks, he looks confident, he steps

1051
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: up in the pocket, he drives throws down field, UH,

1052
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: and completes passes and he's moving the chains on third

1053
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: down and when he gets in trouble and no one's open,

1054
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: then he's taking off for a run. This looked like

1055
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: a functional quarterback and uh. Other than one bad turnover

1056
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: in the red zone on a fumble, I thought he

1057
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: played excellent in this game. So big time progress if

1058
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: you're living on Taysom Hill. Uh for the quarterback. And

1059
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: to the point Um West that we talked about on

1060
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: the Thursday preview show, I wondered slash lamented when Alvin

1061
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: Kamara would rejoin this offense in some capacity and he

1062
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: was back, he had close to a hundred total yards

1063
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: uh and a touchdown. Michael Thomas was over a hundred yards.

1064
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: The offense looked like a functioning offense. On the same

1065
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: weekend that there's a report that Drew Brees will be

1066
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: ready in a week or so. So that's interesting now

1067
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: because the Saints obviously nine straight wins three row with

1068
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: Hill West. I don't I know you're are I in

1069
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: the sky on Sundays? How much did you see of

1070
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: this game, and if you did, what did you think

1071
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: of Taysom? Well, first of all, you're a man who

1072
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: backs his commitments. You're gonna take a stand on Taysom Hill,

1073
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: and you you're choosing these games every Sunday to report

1074
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: back to his boots on the ground. I admire that

1075
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: you're giving us a report every week. You're invested. I am.

1076
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Greg let it drop to me at

1077
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: three overall, but you know I took the opportunity and

1078
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: ran with it. I have been in Taysom's corner for

1079
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: years now because of the way people have reacted to him.

1080
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: But I have confessed to doubts about his ability to

1081
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: read the field, and I don't think he read the

1082
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: field well in either of his first two starts. I

1083
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: thought he did much better at that today. Um, like

1084
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: you said, drove the ball down the field, had to

1085
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: actually go through some of his progressions, and it's something

1086
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him do really well yet. So UM,

1087
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I I put this on the

1088
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: progress side of the ledger. You add in eighty yards

1089
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 1: rushing talk about it. It was hard to take off

1090
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: the field and I know Drew Breeze is gonna get

1091
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: his job back, but I imagine that that Taysom Hill

1092
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: has earned a bigger slice of the pie going forward. Yeah,

1093
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: you wonder if they'll if there's any question about breezes health.

1094
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: They're playing the Eagles next week, whether they want to

1095
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: give him an extra week off. My guess is if

1096
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: he's if he's ready to play, they're gonna play him.

1097
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: You got the sense Sean Payton came out here they

1098
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: wanted to prove a point with Taysom Hill. The run

1099
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: pass uh imbalance was so heavy for the past early

1100
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: and they weren't that efficient throwing early, Like he had

1101
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: twenty throws for about a hundred ten early, but it

1102
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: was almost like Peyton was out there, defenses are gonna

1103
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: try to stop them from running. He wanted to show

1104
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Taysom and maybe he wanted to see if Taysom Hill

1105
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: can can throw. It sounds like he he passed that test.

1106
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't hate that it took him a

1107
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: couple of games to warm up on some level with

1108
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: some of the elements of this too. Uh, It's it's

1109
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: really my thing is like, what do you what would

1110
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: he have to show for them to go into season

1111
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: saying he will be our starter. I don't think we've

1112
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: seen enough of that, and that feels real hazardous. And

1113
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: I like, I like the idea of Taysom Hill, but

1114
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a nice this is a nice

1115
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: start here, but it feels like, um, the future is

1116
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: a tad murky when what would what would the field

1117
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: be if if the Falcons, you know, they're in the

1118
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: red zone second and two at the thirteen yard line,

1119
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: under two minutes to go, And to me, that's like

1120
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: the Falcons nutshell of their season, girly for nothing, girly

1121
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: negative seven. They just they're so bad finding the ball, uh,

1122
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: and they end up blowing that chance, and they're bad

1123
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: in the red zone. That's been that's been the case

1124
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: for most of the last couple of years. They're so

1125
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: frustrating to watch the Falcons on offense. You would think,

1126
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about on Thursday then and

1127
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: the numbers backing up that this is a totally different

1128
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: offense with Julio Jones on the field, But then a

1129
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: game like this happens and it's just it just feels

1130
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: like they should be so much more productive, um than

1131
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: they are. Uh, and that is something they have to

1132
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: figure out going forward, whether they truly want to blow

1133
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: this thing up or if they want to try to

1134
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: rebuild around Matt Ryan one more time. Yes, ESPN is

1135
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter reported that Drew Brees could return in Week fourteen,

1136
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: So that's gonna play into this as well, obviously, Mark

1137
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: because if if, if we've already seen the last start

1138
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: for Taysom Hill this season, he didn't show you enough

1139
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: one way or the other to say that he is.

1140
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: He should be absolutely their Week one starter next year.

1141
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna I think there's going to be a murkiness

1142
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: around the quarterback position in New Orleans, barring them making

1143
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: some huge move to bring in a veteran, which I

1144
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: don't think they could do because I think there are

1145
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: roughly seven billion dollars over the salegy Well right, which

1146
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: which emphasizes the fact that this is a total go

1147
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: go for broke operations. So the record is what it is.

1148
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: If they can get to buy um. This team is

1149
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: as well coached as any and they're winning games with

1150
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks. That's tough to do in the NFL. I mean,

1151
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: I give Sean Payton a ton of credit. Was that

1152
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: the yummy yummy put this game in my tongue. Game.

1153
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: I can't remember which one you have that was bills

1154
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: in my tummy You're gonna be when you so are

1155
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: you going to fast in the morning for that game,

1156
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: so that when you do put the game in your

1157
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: tummy it's almost more satisfied. Take us through the scenario.

1158
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: You got to build up a big appetite, because not

1159
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: you don't. Now, you don't want to fast too long

1160
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: where the stomach starts to shrink. You want to snack

1161
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: a little bit during the day so that when I

1162
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: have to swallow an entire stadium based in Arizona, along

1163
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: with like you know, seventy eight hundred people or whoever

1164
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: is involved with this operation, that's a lot to eat.

1165
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: But I'm ready to eat too. Yes, if any one

1166
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: of them have COVID, it will be right, and it

1167
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: will be literally injected into my body. There's a part

1168
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: of me that turned fifteen and then stayed in that

1169
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: year forever, and everything you just said was hilarious to me.

1170
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: Um all right, now to Greg Rosenthal's fever dream. The

1171
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: staff back scowk but don't pick up by the Patriots

1172
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: and running Gama sideline, Steven McCarty dive to the end zone,

1173
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: Dvin McCarty off the pluck vehicle attempt, picking it up

1174
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: and running it in for a touchdown. Patriots Special teams

1175
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: touchdown and there's a party in the out zone. What

1176
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: a block? What a job on a chopper for the

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01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: back bluff Sidebotene Mary is good zolac w b z

1178
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: wess remembering Hard to Kill Sweeten Segal where uh Segal

1179
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: gets shot eight times by an intruder and he goes

1180
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: into a coma for close to a decade and he

1181
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: survives it, comes out of it, and then he has

1182
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: to go into hiding with Kelly LeBrock to build back

1183
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: and become the man he was so he can get

1184
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: revenge and he can take Senator Trent to the bank,

1185
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: the blood bank. Do you remember any of that was?

1186
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm confess I've never seen a Steven seagalman. That's not important.

1187
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: All you need to know is that that's what I

1188
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: feel about Scott Siloak right now, that for the past

1189
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: like twelve weeks he's been in hiding trying to recover

1190
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: and licking his wounds after Tommy Boy left him. And

1191
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: now you feel he's coming back and it's got juice back,

1192
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: just like Mason Storm did and hard to kill. Devin

1193
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: mccordy scooped up the blockfield goal and took it to

1194
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: the house. Just one in dignity and a game full

1195
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: of them for the Chargers, who were demolished by the

1196
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: Pats forty five Neil at Hollywood Park. New England has

1197
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: won four or five and they are in the race

1198
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: for a playoff spot with four games to play. Greg,

1199
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: we knew there was a coaching mismatch entering this one.

1200
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: How much did that play into the absurd nature of

1201
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: this blowing? I mean, it's everything. The Patriots had their

1202
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: quarterback at sixty nine yards passing and they won the

1203
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: game forty five to nothing. I mean, it's outrageous. That's

1204
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: not right, That is not right. What you just said,

1205
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: that's passing yards. That is a fact. Well that was

1206
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: Cam's passing yards. You know, Stidham came in for Garlett,

1207
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: Simon got some more. But it's special teams. You know.

1208
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: First of all, the Patriots offense outscored their defense, you know, plenty,

1209
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: and they the defense didn't give up any points even

1210
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: without all this special team stuff. But yeah, the Charge

1211
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: has been coaching on this the special teams with Lynn

1212
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: at this level for for three years and they've had

1213
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: the same coach who they reassigned to it like a

1214
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: different part of the building, and his assistant took over,

1215
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: and it's not any better. And they found him right

1216
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: in the in the same game that the Patriots had

1217
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: a seventy yard punt return a blocked field goal touchdown

1218
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: on the last play of the half, and it was

1219
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: like one of those where if you got tackled, you

1220
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: don't get anything from it. So you got you have

1221
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: to score the seven yard touchdown, and they got that,

1222
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: they got a they got sixty one yard punt return.

1223
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: They m the Chargers also had a four punt or

1224
01:03:53,840 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: a three punt streak. But Anthony, keep it down. Greg's

1225
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: trying to provide analysis of the game that night. Um,

1226
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't think, yeah, I think this is the game.

1227
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: If if there's any game that he can't survive, this

1228
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: is it. Because the defense cooked up Herbert too. And

1229
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: you know they had a three place stretch, a three

1230
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: punt stretch rather where they had ten men on the

1231
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: field give up a big return. Twelve men on the

1232
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: field on fourth and five, so the Patriots get to

1233
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: keep the ball, and then the next punt they had

1234
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: ten men on the field again and they gave up

1235
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: a big return. I mean, that's it's just too much. Greg,

1236
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: having left seven days in general, between the shenanigans of

1237
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: Lynn the week before, and on top of this, I

1238
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: feel like you might have sealed his fate here reported

1239
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: this morning that he's on the hot seat. Yeah, well,

1240
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: we just heard it. Well, I was gonna say, Greg,

1241
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: is it possible that this is simply guttural Schefski who

1242
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: had a touchdown last week of return last week you

1243
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: one against the Cardinals called back. I mean, maybe he's

1244
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: just simply too powerful. But I mean, how do you

1245
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: know there was a laundry list of blown scenarios by

1246
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: Anthony len a week ago. To come in and outdo

1247
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: yourself in this fashion. Um, that's hard to do, and

1248
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: it is tough because we all like the persona we

1249
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: like the person and uh, it might be bye bye time.

1250
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't like saying that, but I mean to try

1251
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: to hear it that. I think that would be the

1252
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: worst way to possibly get fired, would be just to

1253
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: hear someone say it's bye bye time. Well, I don't

1254
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: mean it insensitively, but it's um it we we yeah,

1255
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, we don't even need to say more about

1256
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: it because I think it's it sort of speaks for itself. Um,

1257
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: the way it happened today, Yeah, Gunnar Alstowski give him

1258
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: that special Teams Player of the week. He was also

1259
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: their leading receiver one catch thirty eight yards. That are

1260
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: you ready to apologize Greg to your beloved hero Bill

1261
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: Belichick for writing the Patriots off as a completely untalented

1262
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: team with a bad defense, uh, and never taking into

1263
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: account the idea that they would continue to improve and

1264
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: do belichicking and things with or without Tom Brady. The

1265
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: Floor's yours d at six and six. I never said

1266
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: he was like doing a bad job. I said that

1267
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: defense defense for a month because because they were one

1268
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: of the worst defenses, if not the worst defense in

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01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: the league. But they have absolutely found themselves in the

1270
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: last four or five weeks. Uh. The way they're using

1271
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: some of their young players. Stephan Gilmore returning makes a

1272
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: huge difference. He is such cornerbacks, wide receivers down kind

1273
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: of back in his Defensive Player of the Year form shutdown.

1274
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen today. They have some young players. Josh uch

1275
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: A had some great pass rushes today, just have not

1276
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: seen them win. Adam Butler was you know, not not

1277
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: a guy you would expect to dominate. It's kind of

1278
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: dominated the last two weeks. So they had a pass rush.

1279
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: Herbert had no chance earlier in this game for all

1280
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: the special team stuff. It's like, you know, the Charges

1281
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: didn't score any points either, so it's there there. There

1282
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: was a million ways they could have lost this game,

1283
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: and the pay stots are very much alive, like in

1284
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: terms of showing their fans of fun game every week.

1285
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: They also play you know, three straight teams um with

1286
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: good records in a row, and they're they're much further

1287
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs right now than the Lions are,

1288
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: so in terms of making the playoffs, uh, there's not

1289
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: a lot of hope. They would have to win out

1290
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: and get a lot of help against you know, really

1291
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: good teams um, but they're all They're obviously been a

1292
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch for Patriots fans. Definition of

1293
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: fun is a lot different than mine. Patriots fans and

1294
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: included me kind of love finding different ways to win games.

1295
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: They don't have a passing game Damian Harris, they watch

1296
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: I predicted this in March. Greg's gonna be talking about

1297
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: this was his favorite Patriots scene because they so much

1298
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: of so little, and what a coaching Well, they're not

1299
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: they're not talented, they're not talented, but they're finding It

1300
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: is fun to see a team try to figure out

1301
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: ways to win a game with zero passing game. And

1302
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: at this point their passing game is just is Bank

1303
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: crept um. But Cam Newton ran the ball, you know,

1304
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: he was the key to running the ball in the

1305
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: red zone and basically capitalizing on on the chances that

1306
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: they had. But they're they're so limited. It is hard

1307
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: to win without a passing game that it does limit.

1308
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, sign me up to root for the untalented

1309
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: teams that are winning forty five to nothing. I'll I'll

1310
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: take that anytime. The Colts currently sit in the seventh

1311
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: and final playoff spot in the a f C. As

1312
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 1: of the recording of this podcast, they're eight and six.

1313
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: You have the Raiders behind them with seven and five.

1314
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: The Raiders, I just say, then the Ravens at six

1315
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: and five, and then the the Patriots. As Greg said,

1316
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: they're still far back there. They're they're in tenth place

1317
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 1: right now at six and six. They're either gonna have

1318
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: to win out or one more loss and then get

1319
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: some help. So still, I mean, they're gonna have to

1320
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: win out and get help. I mean in the probably

1321
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: probably you got the Raiders and Colts playing next week,

1322
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: so one of those teams are gonna have another loss.

1323
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, they have a lot of work

1324
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: to do, but they're gonna be They're going into this

1325
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: Thursday night against the Rams. I you, you're making fun

1326
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: of me passing on Saints Falcons. I wanted to watch

1327
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: this Pagriots game because I was hoping for something like this.

1328
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: I enjoyed every minute and they get into this Thursday

1329
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: night game against the Rams with some juice. That's all

1330
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: I wanted. I would I would love to like when

1331
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: you show your fandom, greg So, because sometimes you try

1332
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: to suppress it even though we know it's there. But

1333
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: right now it's more out there this year, and I

1334
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: think it makes sense because you feel more there's a

1335
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: little bit more on the line in the season. You're

1336
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: not just coasting to another thirteen and three. It must

1337
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: be a totally different experience for you both as a

1338
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 1: fan and as an analyst. Um, yeah, I mean I

1339
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't agree with your assessment. I feel like I've been

1340
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: kind of tuned out. I've only watched a few of

1341
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: their games live. But they are fun. They're fun. It

1342
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: is fun to be in the mix with a team

1343
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: like this, with some obvious SHORTLI is like secretly on

1344
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: the phone with like Andrew Luck who has been working

1345
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: out intensely for like the past sixty seventy days. He'll

1346
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: come rolling into the line. The cult will just hand

1347
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: them over. They own his rights. I'm sure they'll just

1348
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: be like, here you go, come torture us. Uh, come

1349
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: torture us again for another ten years. And just so

1350
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: everyone knows, Hard to Kill ended with Mason Storm knocking

1351
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: out the teeth of the antagonist that try to kill

1352
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: him with the butt of a shotgun. And then and

1353
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: then he made out with Kelly lebron Is the credits rolled?

1354
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: So is that is that what Bill Belichick is gonna

1355
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: be doing. He's gonna knock out someone's teeth and then

1356
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Linda is on the field with him

1357
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: last game of the year. You never know, never know.

1358
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: That's why the NFL is a lot of fun. We

1359
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: we just watched and we see how the movie ends.

1360
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: Let's let's move on, Wes. I I can't recommend that

1361
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: film enough Hard to Kill. My dad was a Sigal

1362
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: man that that Jane didn't get passed on to me.

1363
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: I know, I always bring up Sigal to you because

1364
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: I know Cesler and Rosenthal aren't gonna be plugged in.

1365
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: And I guess I'm just I'm channeling the spirit of

1366
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: your old man. Yeah, yeah, Miagi was a big right. Hey,

1367
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: what's up, Nick Shook? Are you a fan? You're a

1368
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: little younger, so you might have missed the Seagal window,

1369
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: but I'll just check in. Are you familiar with the

1370
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: the work and the catalog of Steven Seagal? I have

1371
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: not watched a lot of Steven Seagal movies. But bridget

1372
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, who you guys like to mention a lot. Uh,

1373
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: she is a fan of a lot of movies of

1374
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: the era. She's a big, die hard fan and she

1375
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: likes a lot of Cigal movies. Look at that as

1376
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: more reason to lock it up. We're talking about locking

1377
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: it up on the show. How about you lock something up?

1378
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: And that means that girlfriend that moved to the Midwest

1379
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: for you. Hey man, you know what I was shopping

1380
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: for rings this week, so leave me along. Is that

1381
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: if if you, if you do get that rig and

1382
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think Dan, you know, deserves an assist

1383
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: on this. Well, she should know, she should know that

1384
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: I've been, you know, turning the screws a little bit. Um. Hey, Yes,

1385
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: thank you as always for checking in. You made the

1386
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: show better, not just with your knowledge but just who

1387
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: you are, buddy. We love you. Certain genes Qua exactly.

1388
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: There goes one bald man. Here enters another. Let's move on.

1389
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: Matthews got it, turns, gives to Peterson left shot, barreling

1390
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: his weight down the one yard line. It in touchdown

1391
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. He's into the house for the store and

1392
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 1: the Lions are on top. Dan Miller w j R.

1393
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: With the call. Adrian Peterson's five yard touchdown run, his

1394
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: second score of the game, was the difference for the Lions,

1395
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: who wiped out at ten point fourth quarter deficit and

1396
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 1: a thirty thirty win over the three falling Bears. Chookie

1397
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: the Bears needed their defense to be great this year

1398
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: to overcome their other deficiencies, and it seems like based

1399
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 1: on what we're seeing here in the final score. They

1400
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: couldn't even be decent. Decent and it's probably under their season. Yeah,

1401
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: you want to talk about the free falling Bears since

1402
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: their free falling defense, their offenses in battle year, as

1403
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned, but they're defense has been really bad in

1404
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 1: the last few weeks, and this was probably the worst

1405
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: game of the year. I mean, you give up four

1406
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: d sixty total yards of offense, you surrender a ten

1407
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: point lead, and under I think three minutes in the

1408
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I mean, there was a point in this

1409
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: game where the Lions would get within maybe ten or

1410
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: three points, and then the Bears extend the lead again.

1411
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: It actually, the offense wasn't really that much of an

1412
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: issue this week, uh, except for Mr Robinski's timely fumble

1413
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: that then led to this uh turnaround, this comeback. But

1414
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: every time they got with the ten points can really

1415
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: get much closer, and then all of a sudden, the

1416
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: Bears defense wilted in the worst moments in the fourth quarter.

1417
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 1: There was a twenty five yard touchdown past to Marvin Jones,

1418
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: and then there was the five yard Adream Peters and

1419
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: touchdown run which came on a short field as a

1420
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: result of that fumble, but really just capped Um what

1421
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: I think has been a nightmare of six weeks and

1422
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: could cost Matt Nage his job. And and at this point,

1423
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: nothing is really working all that well, at least consistently

1424
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: enough to to have any confidence in the Bears going forward.

1425
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: And then if you move beyond that, you've changed your

1426
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: quarterback and the defense that you could rely on before that.

1427
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: You know you're missing guys like um, you know they

1428
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: missed a team Hicks at one point, and um, you

1429
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: know if you can't rely on that group either, then um,

1430
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: you might be looking at massive changes. I mean this also,

1431
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: this Bears defense wasn't getting the takeaways that were the

1432
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: signature kind of spicy element to an otherwise great defense

1433
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: in years past. And I mean I can only imagine, um,

1434
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: what books not that I don't want to read them,

1435
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: but what books will be written about the way these

1436
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: players feel about what's going on in Chicago this whole year,

1437
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: and none are are the amount of books being written

1438
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: about the match? Well, I'm just I'm just talking about this.

1439
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: The the amount of people that have to be if

1440
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: you're a defender on that team, that's how to it's

1441
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: and you have to basically be the anchor of a

1442
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: Bears team that's going to score about eighteen points a game.

1443
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: That how annoyed is that defense by December and at

1444
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: some point the floor just falls in, right, But to

1445
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: get to give the ball to the Lions with less

1446
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 1: than five minutes to go up ten inside the Lions

1447
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: is five yard line and give up but ninety six

1448
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: yard touched down and then Mitch nine yard touchdown drive

1449
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: and then Mitch fumbles the ball and you give up

1450
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: another touch or whatefter that I mean, Mitchell, that's a

1451
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: everyone deserves blame. In the fourth quarter, I think they

1452
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: went they went like three and out, three and out,

1453
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: three and out, fumble and then you know they didn't

1454
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: get the touchdown, but they didn't put up thirty points.

1455
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: You would think that would be enough to win against

1456
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 1: the zombie forty Niners who didn't have uh Kenny Galady

1457
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: or DeAndre Swift. So that's it's just a total collapse

1458
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: of everyone. It's ridiculous. Oh my gosh, I can't imagine

1459
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: being a barrass fan watching that game. I was just

1460
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: sitting back watching and thinking, there's no way they're gonna

1461
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: do this rightly uneath the long touchdown passing, Well, they

1462
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: might do this, but there's not that much time left.

1463
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: This is kind of how the game has been going

1464
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: all day. And then the timely Trabisky fumble, and like

1465
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know those possessions that you know, three

1466
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: and out, three and out, all those situations. Statistically for

1467
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: the day, Ms Trobisky had a pretty solid day, but

1468
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter, I don't know if I would call

1469
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: it so much a meltdown as an implosion within the

1470
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: last few minutes, because, um, you know, on the day

1471
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: you still thirty four, you broke two in her sixty yards.

1472
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: His pass rating was over a hundred eight. I mean,

1473
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: that's a pretty soliday from it for a team that

1474
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: hasn't had any consistency quarterback all a year, and yet

1475
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: you find a way to lose in a fashion that

1476
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: you haven't lost many of your games except for last weekend,

1477
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: yet let the Packers put up forty one on them.

1478
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: It just kind of reminded me of what we talked

1479
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: about last Sunday night, which was it's a good thing

1480
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: this team is no longer in prime time for the

1481
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: rest of the year. Thank you, very good. Thank goodness, Ricky,

1482
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: jump in here a second. Just want to say, I

1483
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: want to give you a little shine here, Eric at

1484
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: tam Posey shut the dog up. I mean right on time. Um,

1485
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: you have. You've struggled with various predictions this year. There's

1486
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: no I'm not calling that out to be cruel, but

1487
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: just uh to point out that you deserve credit for

1488
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,839
Speaker 1: your sandwich prop checking in by week thirteen, Adrian Peterson

1489
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,839
Speaker 1: over five hundred rushing yards. He crossed that barrier today,

1490
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: so we or I doffed my cap to you. Uh,

1491
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: my fair maiden, thank you so much. Yeah, I uh,

1492
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you got a hunch and sometimes they're

1493
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: all wrong. But this one, this one seemed to work. Well,

1494
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: this is the only this one actually makes you sandwiches.

1495
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: So I guess in a way this was the most

1496
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: important of all hunches. Uh, congratulations, thank you so much.

1497
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: She should share that with Darryl Bevil, who it seems

1498
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: obsessed with Adrian Peterson. Let's let's move on. Give this

1499
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 1: Darren Jones up the middle, break smooth thirty, cutting one

1500
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: thirty five, he's to the phy side, still on his feet,

1501
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: cuts it back twenty. He's got a chance at the

1502
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: time of the five down down, Darn Jones seventy seven

1503
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: yards to the north end zone, pull the dagger. Great

1504
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 1: call Wayne Larvy, Larry McCarron, w TMJ and a great

1505
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: front by Aaron Jones, who showed you all that ability

1506
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: that he as on a seventy seven yard game clinching

1507
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: touchdown and the Packers thirty to sixteen win over the

1508
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: Eagles at Lambeau. Aaron Rodgers threw three more touchdowns and

1509
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: another m v P worthy performance and shook Carson Wentz

1510
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: finally got his as bitched. Finally the day came. Yeah,

1511
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: glory b to the heavens and all the Eagles fans

1512
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: who have been calling for Number two uh to take

1513
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: the field. Jalen Hurts had a nice little moment or

1514
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: two and almost led them. It looked like for a

1515
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,959
Speaker 1: second he might lead them to a victory, an unlikely

1516
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: victory considering they were down what was it twenty three

1517
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: to three I think was the score at the time,

1518
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: and the game was pretty much in hand. It was.

1519
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where, yeah, there was

1520
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: a ton of time left, but it looked like Doug

1521
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: Peterson was just throwing Hurts out there because well, a,

1522
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 1: we can't protect Carson Wentz at all, and our offense

1523
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: can't get anything of substance going. Uh so why not

1524
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: throw him out there and let him get some reps

1525
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: and also a piece that people who are going to

1526
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: fire fifty questions at why he hasn't put Jalen Hurts

1527
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: in consistently yet on Monday. And you know, we'll see

1528
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: how Doug reacts to that. Now that Dellen actually produced

1529
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, but instead it became a one score

1530
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: game for a little bit, and then of course the

1531
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: Eagle's offense went back to what it was before and

1532
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: couldn't actually put the ball, push the ball on the field, punted,

1533
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: and then give up the touchdown run to Aaron Jones,

1534
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: which pretty much was the caper on the entire thing

1535
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: and emphasized what this entire season has been for the Eagles,

1536
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: which is, even when you start to get some good

1537
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: stuff going, it all falls apart before long and you

1538
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: end up with dirt in your face and running back, running,

1539
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, down the field the opposite direction for a touchdown.

1540
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: I I thought Peterson was telling after the game when

1541
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: he when he didn't go back to Wentz, you know,

1542
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: for next week. You know, they're playing the Saints next week.

1543
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: They said who's going to start and he he left

1544
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: it open, and that usually means a change is coming.

1545
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: And the way that he put in Hurts, Yes, the

1546
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: game was felt over, but it was the middle of

1547
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: the third quarter. It was only after one drive after halftime,

1548
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: and I thought Hurts had the best two drives that

1549
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want to get too carried

1550
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: away because he was in the game for four drives

1551
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: and they scored seven points and he turned it over,

1552
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: so it's on the touchdown was on like four and right,

1553
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: So it's not like they suddenly looked amazing. But he

1554
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: had some rushing first downs. He they had the only

1555
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 1: two really impressive sustained drives that weren't aided by penalties

1556
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: like on the first drive. So it's like, why not

1557
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: give it a shot. I thought he brought like like

1558
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: he brought some energy and some life, and why not

1559
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: give Eagles fans a little bit of that? And I mean,

1560
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: I just can't figure out how mentally broken Carson Wentz

1561
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: is right now. I can't think of anyone that needs

1562
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: some time away, uh more than Carson Wentz. I mean,

1563
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: outside of maybe some of us at times, but um,

1564
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: why not do this roll with hurts, see what happens

1565
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: it just like show some flexibility. Like it was just

1566
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: a good moment to see that they finally did it.

1567
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: I mean it should have done it weeks ago. This

1568
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: should have happened a month ago. Here's the thing. Here's

1569
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: the thing. Yes, performance based alone, I agree with you, Mark,

1570
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: but the idea of benching your franchise player, and that's

1571
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: what they thought Carson Wentz was entering this year, and

1572
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe they still think that in the big

1573
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: picture he can be that guy. That is a huge

1574
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: decision to make. And I think they kept on putting

1575
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: it off because it's like, we believe in him, and

1576
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: we don't want to pull the plug on him because

1577
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: obviously that has far reaching implications on us. And what

1578
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: if we pull the plug and and we take away

1579
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: the chance that he does find a way to get

1580
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: his game back on track. And I think they essentially

1581
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: Peterson made the call just before it was way too long.

1582
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: I think it was within the acceptable window of rope

1583
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: to give Carson Wentz, and I thought where this game

1584
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: was at twenty three three, and just the depression that

1585
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 1: had settled over this team that it finally was time.

1586
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: So I I think Peterson made the right move, but

1587
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: I think it would be the wrong move not to start.

1588
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,759
Speaker 1: Give Hurts a shot now, and it's maybe not fair

1589
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: to hurt too much because you now you're gonna go

1590
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: against the Saints defense that just finished up a street

1591
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 1: where they went four team quarters without giving up a touchdown.

1592
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: But if nothing else, give Wentz, sit him down, let

1593
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 1: him clear his head a little bit, and maybe you

1594
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: regroup and you have a chance to hang around at

1595
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: the end of the season. But it certainly feels like

1596
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: at this point, uh, the ship has sailed on. I

1597
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: would agree with that I exaggerated by four weeks because

1598
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: I would say two weeks. And also, Hurts is not

1599
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew's a six round pick hanging on the bench,

1600
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: just a second round pick, like I think they want

1601
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: to take a look at him. So I'm just glad

1602
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: that it's happening now, I mean, finally at least. Yeah,

1603
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: it's also kind of waving the white flag on the

1604
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: whole situation, which I don't really blame them for doing,

1605
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: considering the fact that their offensive line has no stability

1606
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: at all. Because of all the injuries that they've dealt

1607
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 1: with up there, and that's the main reason Carson West

1608
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: is where he is. I know we can talk about

1609
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: his regression and everything, but statistically and everything else, just

1610
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: watching him play, it's dan. You remember the old Sam

1611
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: Donald Monday Night Football clip that I'm seeing ghosts. That's

1612
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: that's basically Carson Wentz right now. I mean he that

1613
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: he was hit so many times. Uh, and it has

1614
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: been hit so many times over the course of this

1615
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: entire season. They're dead lasting Sacs give up. Um. It's

1616
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: been an abomination when it comes to trying to protect him.

1617
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: The only time they ever got him to do anything

1618
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: of significance today was when they rolled him out. And

1619
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: you can't do that every play, especially when you don't

1620
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: have a legitimate I mean, Miles Standards is a promising

1621
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: back when you don't have a legitimate rushing attack with

1622
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: that same offensive line, So there's only so much you

1623
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: can do. And if you if that's your franchise quarterbacks

1624
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 1: that you're trying to keep healthy, which he's had an

1625
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: issue with over the course of his career, uh, then

1626
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: maybe you do sideline him with nothing not much more

1627
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: to play for even though the division still regarding feel,

1628
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: he has no feel. Who is so loath to criticize

1629
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: any quarterback pointed out just the multiple times where he

1630
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 1: didn't kind of move to the open spot in the

1631
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: pocket to buy himself more time, And then I thought

1632
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: it was very telling. The moment he got benched was

1633
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: after the first drive of the third quarter when he

1634
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: missed two straight throws. Wasn't about the protection. It was

1635
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: two open throws and he just missed them. And you

1636
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: still have that with him a lot. So how do

1637
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: you get that How do you turn that around? I

1638
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: think you turn that around in the off season by

1639
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: health rabo, then play him the last couple of weeks

1640
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: and in fie, I'm with you offseason like it's you're

1641
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: not turning it around in the middle of December, especially

1642
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: when you can't send him out there confidently thinking that

1643
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be protected well enough to play there.

1644
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: One Saints lost away from being in played out, play

1645
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: out the string territory anyway, So you get the feeling

1646
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: that it just makes a lot. I wonder if this

1647
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: did this make Brian Greasy's head explode. When Jalen Hurts

1648
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: finally took the field. Good job by the way he

1649
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: did from happiness. He's like, oh, all these cronies have

1650
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: fired me over in Philadelphia and now they all get

1651
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: to suffer. Classic Riddic. That run was one of the

1652
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: best plays of the year. I don't need to hear

1653
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: anymore about how Rogers. It's a beautiful thing to see

1654
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: Rogers with um so much support. But we don't need

1655
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: to hear about Rogers not having support with that running back,

1656
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: with the best left tackle, one of the best offensive lines,

1657
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: with Davante Adams, who is the best short yard and

1658
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 1: receiver I can remember. I mean on fourth and goal

1659
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: to just know you can throw it to Adams and

1660
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: get the touch down. They had a couple other short

1661
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: yardage thing. It's like and the coach, I mean, these

1662
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: the guys are open. It's a beautiful thing. I think

1663
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna win this m v P. We even we

1664
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: even had our you know, weekly seventy five yard bomb

1665
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: dropped by mvs to deflate Rogers's numbers just a little bit.

1666
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, Rogers has been a joy to watch this year,

1667
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: and it's gonna come right down to the wire with Mahomes.

1668
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: That will be fun on to Sunday Night, Sunday Night

1669
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: over the middle. That will be intercepted and that's gonna

1670
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: wrap up. So does it again? There you have at

1671
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 1: Al Michael's with the call friend BC Sunday Night Football,

1672
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: the Honey Badger with the second pick of the game

1673
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: of Drew Lock. Began the game with the pick, ended

1674
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 1: the game with the pick, and the Chiefs on offense

1675
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: do just enough in a two to sixteen win over Denver.

1676
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs improved to eleven and one and he one game

1677
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: behind the Steelers for the top seed in the a

1678
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: f C, while the Broncos enter firmly into also ran

1679
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,879
Speaker 1: running out the clock Operation Zia in the corn Fields

1680
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: territory at four and eight. All right, Mark Seil, your

1681
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: thoughts on this game? Well, I always look for a

1682
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: moment in Chiefs games where um, it seems to be

1683
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 1: over for the opponent, and I give Denver a lot

1684
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: of credit. They there was the the third quarter drive

1685
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: where they went eleven plays seventy two yards to make

1686
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: it sixteen twelve, um their favor. And at that point, uh,

1687
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: they offered no more offense. And uh you look at

1688
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: the fact that Kansas City seple some people say they

1689
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: didn't play a great game here. It wasn't like their

1690
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: full octane operation. Their first five of seven drives they

1691
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: scored and one of them, um was the Tyreek Hill

1692
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: uh turnover catching the end zone that they simply did

1693
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: not review and it was a punt. So I thought

1694
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs actually played very well here and this is

1695
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: just a simpler and it's a divisional game. Uh, they survived,

1696
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: and I know they're not blowing teams out of late.

1697
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 1: And there seems to be a lot of cranky Steelers

1698
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: fans out there, um that I've noticed that are sort

1699
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: of put it, put put his name on it, your

1700
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,440
Speaker 1: friends with them coming. Well, no, it's many in Damnishek

1701
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: would own part of it. But I just think that

1702
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: there's a there's some sort of aspect there where like

1703
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: we're we're upset that the Chiefs are being seen as

1704
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: the class of the a f C. And my thing

1705
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: is this, go punish Patrick Mahomes, go take this team

1706
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: out until someone really does. I mean the Raiders did once,

1707
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: but until that happens, Um, they are my a f

1708
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: C number one seed. They find a way to survive games.

1709
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: Tonight it was Tyree meth you making two huge plays,

1710
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: the picks, but also the stop on Noah fans. I mean,

1711
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: this is a team that finds different ways to win.

1712
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm watching um in the nineteen eighties,

1713
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: watching Hulk Hogan eight years in a row, almost lose

1714
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: the belt every single Saturday Night's main event, but then

1715
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: somehow in the final minutes or even earlier, he finds

1716
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: a way to win, and you kind of know the

1717
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 1: whole thing was preconceived. Chole Cogan was a professional wrestler,

1718
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and that I would imagine Shook knows that he could

1719
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: probably you could probably beat Hulk Hogan right now. She

1720
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: bet your girl was a big fan of him too.

1721
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, she likes Segal, she likes you. You're kind

1722
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: of her real life Segal and uh she she's got

1723
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: she likes she likes a little Hulk Cogan. I I

1724
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: can write with the age joke thing that works out.

1725
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: We can do that. It wasn't that wasn't an an

1726
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: age thing. Oh Um. I don't know. I'd be a

1727
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: little concerned, just that the Chiefs struggle in short yardage

1728
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 1: and that because it's not new like they it sounds

1729
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: crazy because I think that some announcers have said this

1730
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: to that they leave points on the field, but they

1731
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: really do. Like they've been bad in short yardage all year.

1732
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: They've they have and scored a touchdown in seventh straight

1733
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: UM red zone opportunities. So that's like stuff you need

1734
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: to work on when sometimes your coach keeps it a

1735
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: little closer because of some befuddling um decisions than you

1736
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: would like. The non challenge with seven points, you know,

1737
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: kicking a field goal uh in the first half inside

1738
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 1: the five and then punting it away at the end.

1739
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Now it worked out so and you read will say

1740
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: that that was the right decision. I want to use

1741
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes as much as I can and get as

1742
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: many points as I can if I'm Andy Reid, And

1743
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,839
Speaker 1: it's not a major concern um, but it's a trend

1744
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 1: that when they're in short yardage they can't just run

1745
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: the ball. They always have to pull out some crazy

1746
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: stuff and it hasn't really been working for a while.

1747
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Like at no point this season can they just hand

1748
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: the ball off and get a yard or two, which

1749
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: is like useful thing in the in the NFL, especially

1750
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: when you're playing a good team like the Steelers in

1751
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, it's kind of proven that they're the

1752
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: reverse of a bend but don't break defense where they

1753
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: can get down the field quickly, but all of a sudden,

1754
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: when they're in that short yard situation, they can't score.

1755
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: But when you play them, you're in one of two

1756
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,799
Speaker 1: situations that we've seen demonstrated with their division rival opponents

1757
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: this year, which either you try to keep up with

1758
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 1: them in a relative shootout like the Raiders did uh

1759
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 1: in the first time they met and wanted when they

1760
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: did recently and lost, or you do what Denver did tonight,

1761
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: which was you try to basically you know Ben, but

1762
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 1: don't break defensively and avoid turnovers. Now they couldn't do that.

1763
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: That hurt them and obviously it ultimately cost them a

1764
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: chance to potentially go down and take the lead in

1765
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: the final minute of the game. But this is essentially

1766
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: how you have to do. You have to hope that

1767
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: you get enough from your offense, and Denver just didn't tonight. Um,

1768
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: But you do have to give, you know, tip the

1769
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: cap to them for for doing enough to keep them

1770
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: in the game defensively. But you're right, I think it

1771
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: also a lot of it has to do with when

1772
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's done. Thanks very entertaining this, but you lost.

1773
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: How about going a game luck? Your defense plays its

1774
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: balls off in this game, and it's it's just, you know,

1775
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: there's no sense piling on here. I just said it's

1776
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: time for the Broncos to go to the corn fields

1777
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: until two twenty one. But Jul you know, for all

1778
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: his moxie and swagger and all that, can't play. You

1779
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: guys can't play. I know he made some throws, but

1780
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 1: if you're gonna tell me this guy is a solution

1781
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,639
Speaker 1: after this year, um, you're probably John Elway lying to yourself.

1782
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: So I've seen enough of Drew Lock. This game was

1783
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: there for the taking. This could have been a major

1784
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: win for the Broncos, even in a season where they

1785
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 1: won't be playing in the playoffs. But they couldn't find

1786
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: a way, uh to make use of all these weapons,

1787
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: including again Jerry Judy one catch for five yards in

1788
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: the last drive. Tim Patrick. I mean they've got a

1789
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: good their offensive line played well, and you've got Tim

1790
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Patrick's their leading receiver and most people would probably think

1791
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: he's their fourth most talented receiver. I mean they've got

1792
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: four or five weapons You're right, they've they've underachieved I

1793
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: and I does. It does feel almost like WWF match

1794
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: from the eighties with the Hulkster, where it's preordained and

1795
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs sometimes are that like Michael Jordan's Bulls Place,

1796
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 1: where they're just kind the coasting and they when they

1797
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: need to make a play, they'll make it and they'll

1798
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: win the game because that has never really been in doubt.

1799
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: And then sometimes you'll have games like this where you

1800
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: could tell their foot isn't truly uh pedal to the metal.

1801
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: So you know, good, good for the Chiefs. Sixteen and

1802
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: wins a win, it's gonna get the Steelers fans angry mark,

1803
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: which is always kind of fun. Uh. They think they

1804
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: should be number one, uh in the power rankings. Well, nope,

1805
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 1: Cheese will still be number one. Deal with it. And

1806
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: that's that. Hey Shook does does she know that your

1807
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: ring shopping? No, the door is closed. When I said

1808
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: that earlier, I would, but preliminary discussions I got, you know,

1809
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: a tip or two. Um, it's not going to be

1810
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: the conventional uh set up, I think, Um, you know,

1811
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: the pairing of one with another. You know I'm not

1812
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: using this specific term because within ear shot. But you know,

1813
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: you gotta keep it surprised. But I did get a

1814
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 1: little hinter two. Uh, And like I said, it's it's

1815
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: not going to be a total surprise. This has been

1816
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 1: on the docket, It's been on the plane for a

1817
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: long time. It's just you better hope none of our friends,

1818
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: uh listen to the pot. You better hope Darryl Bevil's

1819
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 1: not Daryl Bevil or anyone from Scotland or you know, Norway,

1820
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: like if she's in and they don't know who she

1821
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: is at least. Yeah, Yeah, we don't need any uh

1822
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: internet sleuths going onto shooks uh Instagram and finding his

1823
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: girlfriend and then reaching out. Don't do it. I know

1824
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. Our audience is cool. You know, some audiences

1825
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: are terrible, filled with horrible Internet people that are monsters

1826
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: that say bad things about women and are disrespectful to

1827
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: the hosts and all that. That's not our audience. So chok,

1828
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: you have nothing to worry about. And actually I appreciate

1829
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: how candid you're being, not just with us here, but

1830
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 1: the audience in this major milestone in your life, and

1831
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: it's very exciting. And I know your girlfriend from our

1832
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: soft all days. That's a nice job. You did a

1833
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 1: nice job there. Let's lock it up now. Hey, you

1834
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: know what, there's a reason I keep my Instagram private.

1835
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: But Nick, Nick, are you concerned at all that she

1836
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: doesn't even listen to your handiwork on this show? She

1837
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't even take five minutes to listen to you know

1838
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: what's happening here? Well, it's fair she was trying to

1839
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: listen specifically to when I'm on she had to scrub

1840
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: like the last twenty five minutes of the podcast. It

1841
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: might be too much of an effort, so I couldn't

1842
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:22,640
Speaker 1: blame her for it. Okay, but she deals with this

1843
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,559
Speaker 1: every day very well. Before we sign off, Hey, Ricky,

1844
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 1: howd we do on the Locks this week? Alright, Ricky?

1845
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: We have technical difficulties with Ricky. I can tell you this.

1846
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh you there, Erica. I don't know. There's something bad

1847
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: is happening with Erica's computer right now. So I will

1848
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: quickly say that Greg and I both did good work

1849
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: locking up the Rams over the Cardinals. Mark fearlessly locked

1850
01:34:55,720 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: up the Saints who got that ninth winner? Fears it

1851
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: were they were they were a field goal favorite. I said,

1852
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: locked it up. I didn't say anything was wrong with

1853
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: the lock itself. I don't know what West locked or

1854
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: Ricky West. West locked the Titans. I didn't want to,

1855
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 1: and you know I didn't want to. You know, I'm

1856
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: not gonna make that an issue on the show, But Shook,

1857
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 1: you don't lock up against the Browns in a big

1858
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: spot like that. You know that as well as I do.

1859
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: If I wasn't, you know, didn't want to just like

1860
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: disappoint you. I wanted to root for the brown It

1861
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 1: seemed like a good lock. Actually, I thought West might

1862
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 1: be honest something. But I was a surprised. Gregg started

1863
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: to say if I wasn't afraid of you, then caught

1864
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: himself and then said, if I didn't want to disappoint yeah,

1865
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: I didn't pick up the cover to Mark, I was

1866
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 1: on the brown side. I picked them to only lose.

1867
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: Eric is saying she locked the Browns according to um

1868
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: our chat here, I know I saw that that's not she.

1869
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: She locked him forty five minutes into the game. You've

1870
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 1: got three uh, you've got three games left, Ricky. You

1871
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: can still put a I'm wondering if this is why

1872
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: she's having the technical difficulties but could you've got three,

1873
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: three good games to choose from some heavy favorites. You

1874
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: can even take them. You can you can pick one

1875
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: on Monday. Or she locked up the Browns when they

1876
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 1: were up? Did you lock up the Browns when they

1877
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: were up? Thirty eight? Seven? Erica because it's seven after

1878
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 1: She's shaking her head furiously. This doesn't seem fair. She can't.

1879
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll get into this on Tuesday. Shook

1880
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 1: final words. I went on Cleveland radio last week and

1881
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: picked the Titans confidently, So I'm gonna be watching my back.

1882
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: When I walked around downtown this week, I did the

1883
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: same thing. Listen, you weren't alone, did the same alone. Cessler,

1884
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: Pinion Titans, Me and Greg nearly locked up the Titans,

1885
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: And uh, you know that's what makes football. No, it's

1886
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: mental warfare. It's mental warfare. I was like all waterfall, Tennessee,

1887
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: and then reality brings it. Ricky is posting in the

1888
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: chat room that she locked the Browns. It's nothing personal, Ricky,

1889
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: even if you hadn't had the um regrettable uh in

1890
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: the middle of cheating the last time something like this happened.

1891
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: We just have to play by rules that no one

1892
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,679
Speaker 1: would out. You know, you can't pick the game after

1893
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 1: it starts, no matter if you didn't know the score

1894
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: or not. You know, if it was like a wess

1895
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: or market, they wouldn't put us in this position. You

1896
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: just you just got to pick a game that hasn't started.

1897
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: You know, a man and a woman, they gotta have

1898
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: America at a t N lock ups on Twitter. Who

1899
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: this man's been tracking this for years and he does

1900
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: awesome work based out in the Tower of London. You

1901
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 1: just got to get in touch with him before kickoff.

1902
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: It's basic. It's basic. Come on now, all right, we

1903
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: don't know about Ricky's. We feel bad. You can't speak

1904
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 1: right now. Erica's weekends are rough and tumble. She got that,

1905
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: you got Thursday, you got Friday. You got the lock

1906
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: when you think that weekend begins? All right, okay, another

1907
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: week in the books. Thank you to everybody for listening.

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01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: Thank you to Chris Westling and of course Shook. You've

1909
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 1: been you know, six Men of the Year. You know

1910
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals when your boy lost track of

1911
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 1: the score, that would never be you. I mean, he

1912
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 1: hit some shots in Game seven. A couple of years

1913
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: prior to it's all right. Yeah, that's true too. This

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01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 1: is dan Ass signing off for Quiet Storm, The Old Loss,

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Speaker 1: The Mailman, Nick Shook Six Men of the Year, Ricky

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Fun Bill Tuesday,