WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour Two 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:14.280 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:19.360 Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:26.119 And Jettie and He Armstrong and Getty Strong and. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.720 I missed when my kids were younger and Saint Patrick's 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.360 Day was a big deal and they'd wake up in 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.800 the morning and a leprechaun had snuck into our home 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.120 and you're NATed green in the toilet, then left a 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:44.760 trail of. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.640 Glitter behind for some reason. I'm not exactly sure what 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.320 went on there, but they loved it. It was really, 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:50.800 really fun. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:56.360 We had leprechaun traps, which is cruel, yes, and really brutal. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.120 Yes, They'll always get away. They would always get away. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.400 They would take the gold chocolate coins and get away, 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:02.640 the clever little bastards. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.840 We caught one once. He still works for us. I 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.000 work it the green. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.880 Did you read about that, you unofficial who was just 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.440 prosecuted for slavery? 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:12.960 No? 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.679 Yeah, later on in the show or in the hour. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:19.240 We don't have time now, but yeah, but the green 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.240 urine was a real Armstrong innovation. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:23.760 We did not do that at my house. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.200 We heard it from some babysitter or whatever. But Yeah, 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:31.840 he got that glitter like footprints somehow, and it's disgusting 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.160 all the way around. But anyway, happy to see Patrick's day. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.000 Oh I should keep moving, but me incontinence is bothering. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:42.280 Maybe I'll just stop and relieve meself. Oh boy. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.280 So this is one of the most fascinating things I've 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:52.160 read in the last several years. It is shockingly from 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.640 the Atlantic, which is just suffocatingly lefty these days. It 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.040 was written by a fellow by the name of Yannie 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.600 apple Bomb Why Americans stopped moving houses and why that's 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.080 a very big problem. Actually Yannie might be a woman, 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:05.600 I don't know. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:06.600 Probably is. 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.120 But the subtitle of it is how Progressives Froze the 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.960 American Dream. And I was surprised to see that on 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.560 the cover, but I I dove in. I'm going to 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.440 hit you with parts of it. Jack comment like as 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.080 much as you like, obviously. So the lead is the 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.160 idea that people should be able to choose their own 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.720 communities instead of being stuck where they are born is 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.960 a distinctly American innovation. It is the foundation for the 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.440 country's prosperity and democracy, and it just may be America's 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.160 most profound contribution. 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.680 To the world. I have been saying this for years. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.440 You have in California, the Midwest, all kinds of places 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.799 I've lived, was settled by people who thought they could 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:43.799 get a better deal here. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.080 No society has ever been as mobile as the United 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.760 States once was. No society has even come close. In 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.920 the nineteenth century, friends, the heyday of American mobility, roughly 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:58.160 a third of all Americans changed addresses each year. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.040 Wow each year. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.600 They quote a couple of commentators of the day. The 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.320 Americans devoured with a passion for locomotion, said one French writer, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.000 he cannot stay in one place. Americans moved far more often, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.800 over longer distances, and to greater advantage than did people 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:15.760 in the lands from which. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:16.120 They had come. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.560 They described how in Europe that you just you stayed 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.480 on the land, you stayed in the town. People were 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.920 very suspicious of outsiders. We'll get to that. But over 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.400 the past fifty years, this engine of American opportunity has 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.639 stopped working. Americans become less likely to move from one 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.119 state to another, to move within a state, or even 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.640 to switch residences within a city. In the nineteen sixties, 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.200 now remember it was about one in three in the 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.280 eighteen hundreds the nineteen sixties, about one out of every 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.120 five Americans moved in any given year, down from one 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.000 in three in the nineteenth century, but a frenetic rate, nonetheless, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.720 so one in five in the nineteen sixties. In twenty 0:03:54.760 --> 0:04:00.840 twenty three, only one in thirteen Americans moved. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.440 The sharp decline and GEO, you go ahead. Sorry. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.440 Joe and I both moved a lot for our radio careers, 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:15.800 and I don't think it's shocking to say the success 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.760 of this project depended on it. Wouldn't it have never 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.600 happened without the willingness to like move to that town, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.320 than to that town, to then that town for opportunity. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.839 And probably it's a good time for a disclaimer. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.360 We both were also raised by people who saw their 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.400 fortune in various ways and moved as necessary for career. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.039 My dad was in the military for a while and 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.800 then in the publishing industry, and we moved to fair 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:48.160 Mounta until we finally settled in Chicagoland. But so we 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.520 we can feel and appreciate that side. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.080 Of the argument, not that it's an argument, per sae. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.320 Somebody who's lived, you know, hometown, Mom and Dad and 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.800 the cousins are always around, you have giant Sunday dinners 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.800 together of that sort of thing. Yeah, I get a 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.880 tear in my eye thinking about how wonderful that would be. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.200 But like I've said many times, everything has a cost 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.800 and a benefit. You just have to decide, you know 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.640 what's for you anyway. Reading on from Applebaum's piece, the 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.839 sharp decline in geographic mobility is the single most important 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.680 social change in the past half century, although other shifts 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.080 have attracted far more attention. In that same span, fewer 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:28.200 Americans have started new businesses and fewer Americans have switched jobs. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.600 From nineteen eighty five to twenty fourteen, the share of 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.400 people who have become entrepreneurs fell by half. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.560 Wow, that is seriously troubling. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.920 And then he gets into more Americans end up worse 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.800 off than their parents. I think part of that is 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.400 coming down from the high of the post WW two 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.080 American dominance that was just going to be hard to avoid. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.719 But then he gets into how church membership is down 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.960 by a third since nineteen seventy, as is the share 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.479 of Americans who socialized several times a week. Membership in 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.880 any kind of group is half down by half. Well 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.000 the earth rates keep falling. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.840 One interesting aspect of the not being tied to your 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.960 local church and not socializing seems like that would make 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.760 you more mobile as opposed to less mobile. If you're 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.800 socializing and have a social network, that would be hard 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.720 to leave behind. If you don't socialize, what the hell 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.560 do you care? Go to the next down They got 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:18.160 a better job. 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.000 The other side of that coin is really interesting, and 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:22.880 we were going to get to that in a bit, 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.160 but I'll skip to it. And I can relate to 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.840 this because Judy and I relocated what four years ago 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:31.719 something like that, and it makes you more likely to 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.159 want to go out and meet people. Oh interesting, put 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.239 up with the discomfort of going to a new church 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.640 or joining a club or you know, just for me, 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.240 jumping out a tea time that had one opening and 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:47.120 introducing myself and meeting people because you want to make connections. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.440 And indeed that's what they found sociologically. That's interesting, you know, 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.880 it's kind of counterintuitive. It made people more sociable the 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.400 fact that we moved all the time. And then there's 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.520 an interesting political aspect to this. I don't want to 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.839 get on a partisan thing because that's not what this about. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:07.040 This is about I will just say that people who 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:14.840 felt anger and frustration at their financial situation tended to 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.120 vote more for Trump than Hillary, for instance, But the 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.600 number of those people who lived within a two hour 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.560 drive of where they grew up or had never even 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.440 left their hometown was way more huge. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.440 It says huge gap. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.360 The number of people who said I'm unhappy with my 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.360 financial life in my career, they were wildly disproportionately people 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.960 who had not relocated to seek their fortune. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.480 No, I don't want to make this partisan at all, 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.640 because I don't think it needs to be. But we 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.160 have been saying on this show for years, you know, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:50.160 broadcasting out of California, people talking about how expensive it 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.400 is to live in San Francisco. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.880 Well, then move some place cheaper. That's what I always did, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:55.720 I think before, to live somewhere. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.880 I moved someplace cheaper, rather than expect the government or 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.800 somebody to come in and make it cheaper so you 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.360 can stay. Why does the why do other taxpayers owe 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.760 you the ability to stay in a particular town. 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.720 That's nuts, right, right? 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:12.600 And just you know, you live your life the way 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.200 you see fit, and I will not judge you unless 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.040 you come, I will hard tax money and I'll tell 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.360 you to your jack. I mean, we were very, very 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.720 successful our first job together in Wichita, but we knew 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.120 economically speaking, we had topped out and needed to go, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.040 you know, seek our fortune elsewhere. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.720 But a lot of people do that. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.040 Anyway, this I wanted to get to this part and 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.600 then there's more on the general topic. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.640 To come and trust me. It's so interesting. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.520 You've heard the expression moving day, right, I mean, people 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:41.400 throw it around a little bit. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:41.839 It's funny. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.439 It's a term in golf. It's like the midway point 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.679 of a tournament. You got a chance to move off, 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.559 blah blah blah. And so I'm familiar with the term 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.960 in that way. How do we How did I not 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:53.600 know this? How did all of us not know? 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:53.720 This? 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:59.640 The Great holiday of America when it was so nomadic, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.280 called Moving Day, observed by renters and landlords throughout the 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.679 nineteenth century and well into the twentieth with a giant 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:11.520 game of musical houses. Moving Day, they write, was a 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.160 festival of new hopes and new beginnings, of shattered dreams 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.920 and shattered crockery, quite as recognized today as Christmas or 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.840 the fourth of July. Wrote a Chicago newspaper in eighteen 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:21.360 eighty two. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.520 I as much as I read history, have never come 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.040 across this. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.000 I know it's crazy. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.760 It was primarily an urban thing, although many rural communities 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.400 and suburbans kind of had their own sort, and it varied. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.120 It might be April first or October first, but May 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:38.240 first was by far. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:39.199 The most popular. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:44.439 Literally everybody who is renting a home, and the vast 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.160 majority of people rented. Home ownership was way way lower 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.680 than it is right now. The vast majority of people 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:58.600 would move on moving Day every year, or almost every year. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.840 Nothing quite so so astonished visitors from abroad is the 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.520 spectacle of thousands upon thousands of people picking up and 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.920 swapping homes in a single day. For months before moving day, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.320 Americans prepared for the occasion. Tenants gave notice to the landlords, 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.280 a received word of the new rent. Then followed a 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.439 frenzied period of house hunting, as people, generally women, scouted 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:19.960 for a new place to live that would in some 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.920 respect improve upon the old quote. They want more room, 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:24.760 or they want as much room for less rent, or 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.040 they want a better location, or they want some convenience. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:31.880 Not heretofore enjoyed, The Topeka Daily Capital summarized, these were 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:36.079 months of general anticipation. Cities and towns were alive with excitement. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.439 So if you've ever seen one of those streets scenes 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.200 from back in the day where everybody's got like their 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.960 junk piled on wagons, that was moving day. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.680 And the point of putting that in the article, obviously 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.280 is to just point out that the cultural attitude about 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:58.920 moving was so much different. And as we've said, every 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:04.240 part of this country, people coming out west, starting in 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.480 the very very eastern part of the country and the 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.320 colonies and spreading to you know, when when the wild 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.600 West was Ohio and Kentucky and then going further and 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.840 further for a better opportunity. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:17.880 And now. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.920 Not to be too disparaging of various industries and people, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.199 because I understand, like Joe said, I fully understand why 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.000 it'd be awesome to stay in your hometown where you 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.480 grow up and have your kids go to the same 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.680 school and you know all your family and friends. I god, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.560 I would love that. But the idea that coal mining 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.000 goes away and you're gonna stay in the same dead 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.920 town that's never gonna come back. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.160 Is nuts. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.560 In terms of the history of this country, or you know, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.480 working for General Motors in whatever town in Michigan or whatever. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.080 If something's gone away, then you got to move to 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.440 a different town where the new industry is. That's what 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.480 everybody has done forever in this country. And yeah, pointing 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.000 out that that's gone away, and now we're like Europe, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.840 where you do plan to stay in the town your 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:14.319 family is from for generations, which again I understand the appeal. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:15.800 Sure. Yeah. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.560 One charming anecdote from this which I can't find, but 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.760 I can paragraph a paraphrase. They mentioned that in Europe, indeed, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.600 you stay in the same place, very insular, and that 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:31.120 newcomers would simply cause a more subdivision of the goods 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.680 and services and land available there. So newcomers were like 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.079 a bad thing, whereas in America it was such a 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.839 constant that the idea of a stranger went from a 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.880 threat to literally Americans would say, hello, stranger, you're not 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.280 from around here, are you? And it was not a 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.600 term of suspicion, it was a term of greeting. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:13:00.120 That's really interesting, and I don't think good for the country. 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:20.280 Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show so. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.920 I've just been reading and reading and reading about JD. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.120 Vance's speech has two speeches in front of the EU 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.040 want about Europe needs to step up and quit acting 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.000 like a bunch of fat, lazy babies, and the other 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.440 one about free speech and if you're not going to 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:42.079 embrace democracy and freedom, why do we have an alliance 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.520 to protect democracy and freedom? Twisting their arms on a 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.920 couple of different things. And then the situation Ukraine with 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.600 Putin and then Trump and the things he said, and look, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:53.840 my grand unifying theory. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.080 People are going to be shouting at. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.720 The radio Thucidides or Cicero or he wrote a book 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.839 about this five thousand years go yeah, dope. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:03.880 But it's as simple as this. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.000 And it reminds me what I've always said about American policy, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.000 domestic policy, and that is that it veers from guardrail 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.680 to guardrail, and you hit the sweet spot somewhere in 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.640 between the guardrails, but you have no idea you're in 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.360 the sweet spot. So you just keep going to the left, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:22.040 say releasing criminals and saying we've overincarcerated. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.160 Roar on drugs, blah blah blah. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.040 Until your streets you're just teeming with scumbags and junkies 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.880 and everybody's under threatened. Society sucks, and all the walgreens 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.440 are closing, and then the targets and you got to 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.120 ask somebody to get you socks out from beyond lock 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.400 game blah blah blah. 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:38.480 Then it'll crack. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.359 Down like crazy and lock up people and blah blah blah. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:46.000 And good international relation, Yes, I just said good international relations. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:52.840 Geopolitics has a similar rhythm to it, an ebb and flow, 0:14:53.320 --> 0:15:00.840 in that the results of war and conquest lead to 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:06.280 a desire for peace, trade and prosperity, and peace, trade 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.800 and prosperity over the long term. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.520 Create the situation that. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:20.720 Calls for conquest and war, especially because the victors become 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.360 so weak and comfortable, and those who perceive that they've 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.120 been getting the short end of the stick, be they 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:31.360 China or Russia or North Korea or whatever, seize opportunities 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:36.800 they exploit them. The globe or regions explosed into terrible 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.640 wards wars. Do yourself a trait and read for half 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.000 an hour about what's happening in Africa right now someday 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.880 where it's absolutely wars of conquest and control and resource 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.520 grabbing and all are fully. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.560 Continence on fire. Nobody talks about it. 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.320 But so anyway, post World War Two, we built this 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.600 order to protect freedom and democracy, we become fat and lazy. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.000 We've started to doubt the dynamics of democracy here in 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:04.200 a place like Germany. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.200 They barely ever had them. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.120 Honestly, they're so freaked out and guilt ridden over the 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.240 Nazi thing, although they basically did what we told them 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.680 to do, and the minute we gave them, we gave 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.400 them or they took control. No, no, no, this is 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:20.160 how we're going to run a democracy in the German way. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.240 They got way off base and are now being torn 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.680 asunder by conflict, and stability in Europe is about over. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.160 I don't think Ukraine's a blip. I think it might be, 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.320 you know, other several years until the real storm hits. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:38.760 But I think prosperity has created the playing field for chaos. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:41.720 Yeah, and there's no avoiding it. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.080 Won't get into it now, but there are some statistics 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.160 that were I came across somewhere after JD Vance's speech 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:51.400 of just how little Europe has put in to their 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.960 own defense over the past many years. We care about 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.080 Europe being stable, way more than they care about it 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.280 being stable because they think we'll keep it stable. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.440 All right. And I've got the quotes around here somewhere. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.679 But going back to Barack Obama and Robert Gates in 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.600 twenty twelve saying, hey, Euros, you've got to take an 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:12.960 active role financially. 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.320 You got to build up your military. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.520 You got to act like you're serious about this, because 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:17.920 we are not going to carry you. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.359 Get serious. And they said, yeah, yeah, well up our 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.840 spending by half a percent. Yeah, it'll be fine. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.080 And they just they do not pay heed and now 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.360 that the wolf is at their door that they don't 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.400 know what to do about it. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:39.680 Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show, The 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:41.359 Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:49.440 I'm some interesting sleep stats for you. Everybody sleeps or 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.560 talks about sleep. It seems everybody does sleep. It does 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:57.119 seam everybody talks about sleep. I am having a I 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.320 now officially called a crisis, a sleep crisis, the first 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:01.639 time in my life. So I got to spend some 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.200 time looking into figuring this out. I mean, it's a crisis. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.400 I've had periods in my life, like lots of parents, 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.560 where I wasn't getting enough sleep. But that was just 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.720 because I didn't have, you know, the opportunity to spend 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.200 enough time in bed sleeping. It wasn't because I couldn't 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.160 figure out how to sleep. Now I can get into bed, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.040 and just like last night, I went to bed at 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.480 I don't know when, it was nine o'clock. I laid 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.760 there till at least two am. Last time, I completely 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.879 awake the whole time. Oh, no idea. I had no 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.679 caffeine from ten am. I mean, I just and I 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.280 have no idea where this has come from. And it's 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.800 just happened kind of out of nowhere. It's driving me nuts. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.359 It's a horrible feeling. And then you obviously you got 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:39.119 all the problems with being asleep. I'm looking at government statistics. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.600 This is from one of your national health organizations something 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.879 or other. Nearly before we get to that, have you 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.040 dealt with the guilt you have for having staged bum 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.920 fights for all those years? Still staging bum fights? The money, 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:56.200 the money is great shame and it's shame. It's easier 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.480 than ever to find crazy violent drum bums. So oh 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.560 that's a good pa. It's really the golden era of 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.159 staging bump fights. Wow, I could go right outside the 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.640 radio station right now and find two crazy, angry people 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.320 who'd be happy to fight each other for a couple 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:08.720 of bucks. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.879 He's not joking. I'm not joking. Well, I'm joking that 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:12.840 I am going to do that. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.920 I'm not joking that I can find two angry, violent 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.840 people downstairs that would fight, or maybe over in the 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:19.280 sales room. 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:19.679 I don't know. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:27.320 For of adults report falling asleep during the day without 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.320 meaning to at least once a month. Do you fall 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.480 asleep during the day at least once a month Americans? 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.399 I fall asleep driving way too often, always have. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:44.360 Really, Oh that's not a minor story. Yeah, Katie's like, wait, wait, 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.600 wait what I know. I've been hearing this for years. 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.480 You don't asleep driving. You just try to slide that 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.960 right by us. You don't fall asleep driving. No, I 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.760 am acting that way. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.000 Well, I don't want to. It's not like I think 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:04.480 it's cool. I know, I know, Katie, I know. I 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:10.119 don't know what to say. You just well, a lot 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:14.399 of Americans fall asleep during the day without meaning to 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.879 at least once a month, do you, Katie? 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:21.080 No, I actually driving at your desk or anything like that. 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.800 No, I simply can't do that, and I don't know. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.359 We're the same. That would be that would be astonishing 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:27.200 to me if that happened. 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:28.720 Yeah, I don't know if I believe this number, but 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.320 it is. It's a from the National Institute of Health's 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.000 health not not that I believe they're statistics, but it's 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.639 not most sleep statistics you hear, Oh, and then. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:39.040 Look for this. 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.879 Almost all sleep statistics you hear about pillows and sleep 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:44.960 and whatever. You look at the bottom and it's paid 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.760 for by a mattress company or a pillow company or whatever. 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:50.159 That's crap. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.560 But this is from the National Institute's about that'd be 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.159 a shocking number if forty percent of adults fall asleep 0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:00.920 during the day unintentionally once a month. I mean, even 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.879 when I had my desk job and I'd go and 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:06.800 have a big lunch and I was on the west 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.439 side of the building, gladys, I tell you, I remember 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.040