1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. Sit is Tuesday, November fourth, And to 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: be honest with you, Roback and I have actually been 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: fighting about whether or not to do this episode because 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't even believe the story is real. And with that, 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. It 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: cannot be real because nobody can, as it's impossible that 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: anybody would do what they're suggesting, even with photographic evidence 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: this lady has done. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, this isn't a suggestion, this 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: is actual facts. Okay, doctor, we're talking about Colorado Representative 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: Lauren Bobert. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: And I brought this to your attention because I saw. 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: People writing articles about what she wore for her Halloween 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: costume and I mentioned it to you, and you're like, 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: that's not real. 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Now this started this morning, did it not? So we're 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: recording now in the afternoon of November four, But weren't 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: we talking about this pre five am? 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: But what you didn't know, and maybe what I didn't 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: tell you, was that her boyfriend showed up and the 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: two of them together is what made the Halloween. 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: Costume choice extra offensive. 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it would have been offensive on its own, 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: but it was an added layer with the boyfriend. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 3: And so when you saw the whole thing, you said, 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: this isn't real. 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: No, No, I actually skip I'll be honest. I skipped 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: over the story when I initially saw it because I 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: saw her standing there and whatever she was in. I 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: just saw the headline and I kept moving on. Whatever 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: like it, don't like it, feel like it's the most 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: racist thing ever, or Okay, it's just what some people 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: do now and let's move on. I just kept rolling, 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: didn't even skip a beat. And you seem surprised when 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: I said. 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Nah, yeah, because this seems like a story right up 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: your alley. It's interesting, it's it's provocative, and it's also 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: head scratching. Because should we tell the listeners what the 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: cosme was, okay first, so that they can get a 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: whole feel of this. 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: But I want you to go through. Let's start with 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: this Beaubert Lauren Bobert, who has done Bolbert, excuse me, Bobert, 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: who has done some things and been caught up in 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: some scandals and whatever, who has stepped in it before 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: I see her controversy in the headline, wearing some I 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: think they called it racially charged Halloween costume. I glanced 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: by the photo. She's wearing a sombrero and a Mexican dress. 48 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I move on, and a short time ago you stopped 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: me and explained the rest. See. 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: So, yes, she did have a sombrero. She did have 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: a Mexican dress on. She also had a sign with 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: her that said Mexican word of the day, juicy, Tell 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: me if juicy ice coming. 54 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't see that part. 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: I tried not to do. 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 2: That with any sort of Hispanic accent because that would 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: have seemed very, very very importaste. But if you do 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: it with it, you can see it actually is saying 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: tell me if you see ice coming, right, but with 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: a very offensive Hispanic accent. Now, on top of that, 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: her boyfriend, her date to this Halloween party, was an 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: ice agent. 63 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: So a complete mockery of a. 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: Very serious and frankly devastating situation in our country. 65 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Right now, I missed. I missed the detail about the 66 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: date being dressed as a as an ice agent and 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: a sigh. 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: Again, this was a party in Littleton, Colorado. 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: Okay, you saw some other photos. Did it seem like 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: anyone else was uncomfortable? Did she seem to be mingling 71 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: taking pictures with people. The whole shit. 72 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: She seemed to be mingling. She seemed to be taking 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: pictures with people. There are they they are with one 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: other person smiling. But reportedly the pictures surfaced or came 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: out because someone at the party reportedly was so offended 76 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: by what they saw that they took the pictures and 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: then gave them to I believe the Denver Post, the 78 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: local newspaper, and that is the outlet that first published 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: these photos. 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you still, as we sit here, 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm having some doubt, Like I've seen the pictures, wondering 82 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: if they could have been doctored where they came from. 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Who would have done something like this if it's possible. 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: I am being straight with you, doll. When I as 85 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, I am like, ugh, maybe maybe we 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: should hold off, because I have a hard time believing 87 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: that somebody would walk out. 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: Of the house in that not just somebody. 89 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: Member of Congress. I'm still struggling with that. Look. We've 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: seen a of offensive outfits and Halloween costumes here and 91 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: there this, and some people go, oh, I made a 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: mistake or I didn't consider or would have done it differently. 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: She is a third term congress woman from Colorado's fourth district. 94 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: She knows what she's doing, and she knows the attention 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: she's getting. And how about this if you want to 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: be convinced that this was a choice. 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: She has an official response. 98 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: At least her office has responded to media requests. ABC 99 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: News reported this the Denver Post. It's a Halloween costume. 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: Tell our senators to vote for the cr and open 101 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: the government. They are choosing to let millions of American 102 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: families suffer end quote. 103 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: That can't be real. 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: That is her official statement. We sure in response to 105 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: the Halloween costume controversy, We. 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: Sure that really came from her. 107 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 2: Well, I think you still were thinking that for quite 108 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: some time, until we googled her name and realize that 109 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: this is just the latest in a string of controversies 110 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: that has followed her or she, I don't know is 111 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: created and it's quite remarkable. 112 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: But given some of the ones we've we've known about 113 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: in the past, this still I'm having a difficult I 114 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: know you were. I was for the longest I was 115 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: not convinced. I kept I was being dismissive of you. 116 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: Almost you were. 117 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: I was like babe, this isn't made up. 118 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: The baby being aied, somebody's fooling you. 119 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: You actually had me zoom in on the picture to 120 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: see if you could see if it was photoshopped. 121 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: That's how much you did not believe that this was real. 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: I just, even given what we have seen in some 123 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: of the controversies and scandals that even that some of 124 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: her own party she has rubbed the wrong way with 125 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: some of these things. Even given all that, I just wrote, 126 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: that's what's the sign. The sign she had well. 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: Has Mexican word of the day, juicy. Tell me if 128 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: Juicy Ice coming, that's terrible. I don't one the person 129 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: who took the pictures reportedly is the one who said 130 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: it was disgusting, disgusting behavior and people were not laughing. 131 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: They didn't think it was funny. Obviously it's not. But 132 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: it is remarkable that a member of Congress would choose 133 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: that outfit and know she was going to be photographed 134 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: and pose for photographs, knowing that she represents a district 135 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: that is fourteen percent Hispanic. 136 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: It's I don't know how you apologize for that one. 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: She hasn't. 138 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how. It's a costume it's a Halloween costume. 139 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: There's something. There's got to be a humanity in it all. 140 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: There's gotta be an ounce of I mean, empathy for 141 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: your for a human being, no matter what. And I 142 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: can't imagine that kind of intentional slight to a culture. 143 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: It is hard to get your head around. 144 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: But I don't think she thought it was just funny. 145 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: There's gotta be a reason. There's got to be a constituency. 146 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: There's got to be something. There's got to be somethingting 147 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: in somebody she's playing to think this is okay. 148 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: Well, there were some responses just to get an idea 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: about how people in that community, in the Latino community 150 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: felt about what she did. The president of the Latino 151 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: Coalition in Colorado told this to the Denver Post. She 152 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: should be ashamed of herself. Though I believe she is 153 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: incapable of any emotion that generates human decency. Her bigotry 154 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: and ignorance are clearly evident in her chosen apparel this day, 155 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: and then State Senator Julie Gonzalez, who was also the 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: co chair of the Colorado Democratic Latino Caucus, said she well, 157 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: she asked Bobert to apologize and said she should know 158 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: that our culture is not a costume and being bilingual 159 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: is an. 160 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: Asset, not a joke. I thought that was really well 161 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: well put. 162 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: They have to be fuming, and I would like to, 163 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe she'll say nothing. I don't know what 164 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: to explain. I don't know what I need to hear 165 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: to relax a little bit about what you feel when 166 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: you see something like this, and you know, I'm always 167 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: this way and even in this one like to hear 168 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: something from her. I would like to. I just I 169 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: don't understand. 170 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: What's so interesting though, because we actually did a bit 171 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: of a deep dive on her and to consider where 172 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: she came from, and she's talked about this publicly, about 173 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: her story, how she was uprooted from Florida to the 174 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: state of Colorado, how her family was on welfare, how 175 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: she did not live an opulent life. She had a 176 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: tough life, and she talked about going through that. So 177 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: it's just interesting someone who's had that kind of a upbringing. 178 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: She actually dropped out of high school because she got pregnant, 179 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: and she got her ged I believe, just a few 180 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: years ago before she was elected into office, so she 181 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: knows what it's like to struggle. She knows what it's 182 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: like to feel marginalized in some ways. So it's so 183 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: interesting to me that she can't acknowledge or understand how 184 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: what she's choosing to do to laugh fat or to 185 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: make a joke or mockery of is actually incredibly painful. 186 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: Imagining the difficulty she must have had in her life. 187 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: I think you almost want to stand up and applaud 188 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: when you hear that. And to think that woman made 189 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: it to Congress, raised four boys, made it to Congress 190 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: and is in a third term. That should be celebrated. 191 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: Her background that should be highlighted and focused and talked 192 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: about and looked at. And but why the opportunity she's 193 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: had to be that? Look, I'm sure, I mean, she's 194 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: getting elected. They must like her, somebody does, and she's 195 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: doing her thing, and whatever she's doing is working out there. 196 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: So who the hell are we to talk or criticize 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: a Halloween costume? But we just mentioned a moment ago. 198 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: This was not the first of her controversy. She had 199 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: said some pretty controversial things in the past, and she 200 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: has directed a lot of her comments toward her own 201 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: her own fellow members of Congress, including accusing one of 202 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: carrying a pimp cane and the other one of carrying 203 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: a suicide bomb. Stay with us, we continue now. I'm 204 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: starting ropes to get a little convinced that maybe this 205 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: thing about Lauren Berbert Bobert, Congresswoman Lauren Bobert is is real. 206 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: That's good to hear. 207 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm coming around. Maybe by the end of this 208 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: episode I will be on board. But yeah, the outfit 209 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: she wore dress and Mexican garb, wearing a sombrero. Her 210 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: date is dressed as an ice agent and a really 211 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: offensive message hanging around her neck. Rose you look is 212 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: we haven't necessarily laughed in the first part of this episode. 213 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be honest. We were looking up some of 214 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: the stuff she has said and been accused of in 215 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: the past and her response to it. It's almost just 216 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: it's jaw dropping, but it makes your giggle, like are 217 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: you kidding? 218 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: It's well, you're laughing because you're laughing in absolute horror 219 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 2: and you just can't believe what you're reading. And so 220 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: you were reading article and I was reading an article, 221 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: and you'd be like what, and it's just it's that 222 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: it's it's so offensive. Then you realize she has a 223 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: history of doing this, and sometimes she apologizes and sometimes 224 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: she doubles down, and it looks like this time she's 225 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: laughing it off. But she doesn't have any real accountability 226 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: for some pretty horrific things. 227 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: She said. 228 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: Did she ever a bucket? Does she I don't have 229 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: it up? Does she apologize with the pimp kne She 230 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: did not. 231 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: She doubled down. Okay, so we'll start with a double down. 232 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: This is Representative Al Green. 233 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: He was. 234 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: He gave that fiery speech in the halls of Congress, 235 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: and he had that cane. 236 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, this is what he was interrupting Trump. 237 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: Oh, this is when President Trump was addressing Congress. He 238 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: stood up, started yelling at Trump, and eventually he had 239 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: to be escorted out correc So, Texas. 240 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: Right. 241 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: Yes, So she was giving an interview shortly thereafter, and 242 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: she spoke of Green. She said, she said for him 243 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: to go and shake his pimp cane at President Trump 244 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: was absolutely imbhorrent. 245 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: Don't hear that a lot in Congress? She said, They 246 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: remember of Congress said a pimpkin. 247 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Yes, and it was a black member of Congress to 248 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: be very specific. 249 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: Are, by the way, yes, Al Green. 250 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: Pretty black name. I say that because you think about 251 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Al Green. There's one guy you think of when you 252 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: hear Al Green. 253 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: The singer. 254 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Yes, the singer and very smooth. 255 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: But in fact, when we when we were talking about 256 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 2: this and you said his name, I was like, wait, 257 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: is that the right name? 258 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: Isn't that the singer? I got really confused. It's funny 259 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: you point that out. 260 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: And shaking a Pimpcine? Now she had an opportunity? Did 261 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: she not to correct? To apologize about this? 262 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: Correct? So the first time she was asked, she said, 263 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: I stand by what I said. 264 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: The first time. There's more than one yes. 265 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: And then she was she was she was on another 266 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: show and they asked specifically about what she said, and 267 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: she said, look, if that gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcaine, 268 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what is Okay, So that is doubling down. 269 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: For sure. 270 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: She tripled. She had two opportunities down. 271 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I stand by what I said. 272 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Okay, when you said the last one, that's. 273 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: Just so well, then you start laughing. It's comical because 274 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: it's so offensive. You actually don't know what else to do. 275 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the words, should we be that offended? That 276 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: upset about it. I don't know. No, you don't want 277 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: your members of Congress hurling insults like that, yes. 278 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: And generalizations and offensive stereotypical. 279 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: Comments and that imagery. We know what that conjures up 280 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: when you say something like that. 281 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: Yes, So that was in March of this past year. 282 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: But before that, there was her beef with ilhan. 283 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: Omar to say gold plated pimp. 284 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: She said, gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcane. I don't 285 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: know what is. 286 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, Yes, she said that, all right. 287 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:09,119 Speaker 3: So with ilhan Omar, she was giving a speech, correct. 288 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Bobert, No, she was recalling a story. 289 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So she was giving a speech and she 290 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: had a crowd full of folks and she told this 291 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: story about her time in Congress. She said, I'm quoting her. 292 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: So the other night on the House floor was not 293 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: my first jihad squad moment. I was getting into an 294 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: elevator with one of my staffers, and he and I 295 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: were leaving the Capitol. We're going back to my office 296 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: and we get in the elevator and I see a 297 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: Capitol police officer running hurriedly. 298 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: To the elevator. 299 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: I see fred all over his face and he's reaching 300 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: the door shutting. 301 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: I can't open it. What's happening. 302 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: I looked to my left and there she is Ilhan 303 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: Omar and I said, well, she doesn't have a backpack. 304 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: We should be fine. And the crowd laughed. 305 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: Oh. 306 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: Yes, she was telling it to a fundraising crowd. It 307 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: was some group of friendly faces. So yes, she was 308 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: being comedic. She was holding court, so to speak, telling 309 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: a story and the folks were laughing. 310 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: And that got support from the crowd. Yes, okay, I 311 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: didn't know that detail. 312 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and so yeah and then yeah, so she just 313 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: said and she just went on to then belittle her 314 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: and say, so we only had one floor to go. 315 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: And I say, do I say it or do I not? 316 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: And I look over and I say, look, the Jihad 317 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: squad decided to show up for work today. She actually 318 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: said that to her face. 319 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: And then she. 320 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: Told the group she was speaking to, don't worry. It's 321 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: just her staffers on Twitter that talk for her. She's 322 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: not tough in person. 323 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: And Representative Omar I actually refuted at that door. She said, 324 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: we never ever got on an elevator together, and this 325 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: never happened, you know what. A represent of Omar had 326 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: a good line I'm gonna mess it up a little bit, 327 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: but this is almost verbatim. She said, it's a shame 328 00:16:54,320 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: that Congresswoman Bobert thinks that biggest street, big tree will 329 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: get you clapped. 330 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I did see that. Yes I did. 331 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: Yes, And we've actually had Representative Omar, we've actually interviewed her. 332 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: She's been very you know, you can agree with her 333 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: or disagree with her. Been very level headed. She's not 334 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: one to continue a fight. Certainly, even if it was 335 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: pushed on her or put upon her, she handled it very. 336 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: She's a lot of classes. 337 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: She said. They got on the phone after this whole incident, 338 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: said it went terribly and she said she had to 339 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: get off the phone because it wasn't productive. She said, 340 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: you didn't give it an apology. That was her statement, 341 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: at least represent of Omar. But I know these are 342 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: tough she had. This is somebody keeps getting elected. And look, 343 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: some people look at this like people were making too 344 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: big of a deal out of it. Eh, maybe you 345 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: can certainly feel that way. I just I felt a 346 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: certain way and just struggled. I did. It was so 347 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: great there that I truly. 348 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: Did not believe you this day and age in fact. 349 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: I remember the Monday after Halloween, I was thinking to myself, Oh, 350 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: I didn't read about any Halloween costume mishaps. 351 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: Over the years. 352 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: Too many people have made too many bad choices appropriating 353 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: other people's cultures whatever, They offend people in some way, 354 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: and I hadn't heard of one, and I was like, 355 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: oh wow. And I remember thinking, this is one of 356 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: those rare Halloweens where no one put on a stupid 357 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: Halloween costume that got them in trouble. 358 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: But haven't we seen some ignorance, some oops, some genuine 359 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: miscalculations and outfits before, and people have had to apologize, 360 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: And like, I didn't know, we've seen some stuff around 361 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: Halloween or elsewhere. This was you can't. I can't that 362 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: you had to put out a chalkboard and write it 363 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: out there that yeah. 364 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: And there have been enough of the other more subtle 365 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 2: problems that people have run into where it feels like 366 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: this was a choice. 367 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Again that plenty of people may be listening that go, guys, 368 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. 369 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: Costume. 370 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: It's a Halloween costume. What's the big deal? Get over it. 371 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: We got to shut down. We got bigger problems, sure. 372 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think that that's fine if you're 373 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: a private citizen, but when you represent a district and 374 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: you're elected and you're there to represent everybody, that is 375 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: highly offensive and certainly not inclusive, and that's a kind 376 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: way of putting her choice. 377 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: There is no way to argue with that, and with that, 378 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: folks always appreciate you spend some time with us. I'm TJ. Holmes, 379 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: behalf fingy robot will talk to y'lson.