WEBVTT - 10 Voter Suppression Methods

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of five

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's out there somewhere wandering around. So if you see her,

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<v Speaker 1>bring her back. And this is Stuff you should know.

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<v Speaker 1>A rare top ten. Yeah, where we do all ten,

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<v Speaker 1>although I'm sure we'll end up combining something and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like eight or something weird like that. But we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't even really do these anymore. Oh, I see

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<v Speaker 1>what you mean. No, No, it's been a while. This

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<v Speaker 1>one's an important top ten too. This isn't like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten biggest things ever moved or anything like that. Did

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<v Speaker 1>we do that? No, I don't think we ever did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on How Stuff Works. Yeah, it is right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing. Yeah, or maybe like ten heaviest objects

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<v Speaker 1>ever moved or something. Maybe we'll do it someday. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from our old website that we used to

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<v Speaker 1>work for or though How Stuff Works, and uh this

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<v Speaker 1>is and we've done stuff on different ways to suppress

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<v Speaker 1>the vote and to rig the vote through jerrymandering and

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<v Speaker 1>such efforts like that. We well, we did one specifically

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<v Speaker 1>called our election laws designed to suppress voting, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good one to go listen to as well. It

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<v Speaker 1>is because it's very sad. But in the United States, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>suppressing the vote and keep trying to keep people and

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<v Speaker 1>certain people and certain demographics from voting is as old

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<v Speaker 1>as voting itself. Yeah, which is sad because everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>this impression that you know, and it's pure state in America.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to vote, if you say this is

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<v Speaker 1>my my right and obligation and duty as a citizen, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go vote and it shouldn't be all that

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<v Speaker 1>hard and you just go and you vote, and your

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<v Speaker 1>vote is counted and maybe your person wins, maybe they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>but you voted, and there shouldn't be any barriers to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Voting is the way that a democracy functions. So the

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<v Speaker 1>most democratic way for the democracy to function is to

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<v Speaker 1>remove as many barriers as possible. Unfortunately, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of barriers that are put up that do make

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<v Speaker 1>things harder for people to vote, which is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here. That's right, and they're not old barriers.

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<v Speaker 1>The Brennan Center for Justice, it's just a think tank

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<v Speaker 1>in New York and advocates for civil rights, especially around voting.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, since two thousand ten, states have passed new

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<v Speaker 1>laws making it more difficult for people to vote in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States of America. Yeah so, and we should

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<v Speaker 1>probably just come out and say, Unfortunately to our Republican listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not one of those both sides do what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of things. Um. This is largely Republican. The Republican

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<v Speaker 1>controlled UM states and municipalities that create laws and regulations

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<v Speaker 1>that do make it harder to vote. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why on paper is because it's it's to combat UM

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<v Speaker 1>voter fraud. The problem is this voter fraud has been

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<v Speaker 1>shown many, many, many times over by many different studies

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<v Speaker 1>by by groups from both sides of the political spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't I mean, it doesn't really exist. It

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<v Speaker 1>exists in such minuscule amounts that it might as well

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<v Speaker 1>not exist. That same Brennan Center, Chuck, that you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>a second ago, they're big time into into voting. They

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<v Speaker 1>they did a study and they saw that between nine

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousands of a percent to four one hundred thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of a percent, that's how the rate of overall voting

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<v Speaker 1>fraud in the United States and if you're like Brendan Center, all,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's liberal. Um. There was actually an exhaustive inquiry

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<v Speaker 1>investigation launched in two thousand two by John Ashcroft, who

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<v Speaker 1>is Bush Junior's Attorney General. If you'll remember heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a singer. Remember when he sang about

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<v Speaker 1>the eagle flying high. Yeah, man, I remember that he

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<v Speaker 1>was annointing feet with oils. Yeah. So Sacroft his Justice

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<v Speaker 1>Department launched a really thorough investigation into voter fraud in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and out of examining hundreds of millions

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<v Speaker 1>of ballots between I think, um, oh, I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what years they looked at it over, they managed to

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<v Speaker 1>bring charges on only one people and only eight six

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<v Speaker 1>of those were convicted. Um. So there's there's really no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that voter fraud exists. And yet these solutions to

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<v Speaker 1>voting fraud voter fraud, which are obstacles and barriers to voting,

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<v Speaker 1>are still established. They're still supported. Even though people are

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<v Speaker 1>like voting fraud doesn't exist, they say, well, we still

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<v Speaker 1>have to protect against it anyway, so we're gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>voting harder. Um. And that's kind of the big problem

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<v Speaker 1>that we're dealing with right now, with with this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why a lot of people point to

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<v Speaker 1>this and say this is voter suppression. That's right. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, even in our most recent election, if I

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<v Speaker 1>remember correctly, uh, Donald Trump launched an investigative body to

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<v Speaker 1>look into the because he lost a popular vote by

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<v Speaker 1>roughly three million votes and he said that there were

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<v Speaker 1>at least three million illegal votes cast That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>lost that vote? Didn't he form a body to investigate that?

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<v Speaker 1>That just sort of quietly went away without any findings.

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<v Speaker 1>It did. There were like there were some findings, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were you know, and there was a report and

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually kind of a scandalous report that said

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<v Speaker 1>there's voter fraud everywhere. And then people said, well, can

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<v Speaker 1>you show us your your work and they said no,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when it kind of faded off into nothing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so there's like we're showing, like it's been shown,

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<v Speaker 1>voter fraud like basically doesn't exist. And yes, any instance

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<v Speaker 1>of voter fraud, especially purposeful voter fraud meant to to

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<v Speaker 1>affect the outcome of an election. Throw that person in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>like take away they're right to vote. Forever. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe speke m on the bottom too, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not a good thing. No one's saying like

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<v Speaker 1>who cares about voter fraud? What people are saying is

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<v Speaker 1>that voter fraud virtually doesn't exist. So to institute all

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<v Speaker 1>these draconian measures that make it harder for people to

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<v Speaker 1>vote and seemingly weirdly make it harder for certain groups

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<v Speaker 1>of people like minorities and poor people to vote, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a problem because number one, it's a solution

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<v Speaker 1>to a problem that doesn't exist. The number two, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be voter suppression. And all other people

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<v Speaker 1>would say, well, why why would why would the GOP

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<v Speaker 1>care if if if um, like, why would they do

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<v Speaker 1>this then? And apparently if you look at elections in general, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party tends to be favored when fewer people

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<v Speaker 1>turn out, when a lot of when there's a large electorate,

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<v Speaker 1>that usually tends to favor the Democrats. When not that

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<v Speaker 1>many people turn out to vote, the people who turn

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<v Speaker 1>out to vote usually tend to be Republicans. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people point to the Republican controlled cities and

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<v Speaker 1>states around the country and say, um, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this to win, and which makes it cheating. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're cheating by taking away people's ability to vote or

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<v Speaker 1>making it hard enough that they just give up and

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<v Speaker 1>don't vote. That's right. So, uh, a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be historical as well. And I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>should start with number ten, which is poll taxes. And

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<v Speaker 1>early on, when voting kind of was in its uh

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<v Speaker 1>early stages, they thought, you know, I'm a really easy

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<v Speaker 1>way to keep people from voting is to have them

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<v Speaker 1>pay a tax to have to vote. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be exorbitant, but maybe just high enough to

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<v Speaker 1>where most of the people that we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>vote can't afford it. Most of the Confederate former Confederacy

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<v Speaker 1>UM had these poll taxes. A lot of this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>was in the South historically. Unfortunately, Virginia charged about a

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<v Speaker 1>buck fifty a year, which was about eleven bucks in

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<v Speaker 1>today's dollars, so that's not a lot of money, but

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<v Speaker 1>it had to be paid in cash. And back then,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were a sharecropper or if you were a

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<v Speaker 1>small uh farmer with a small farm, you bought most

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<v Speaker 1>of your stuff on credit and you didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cash line around. You might have had two

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<v Speaker 1>or three dollars at any given point, right, and you

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<v Speaker 1>hit it on the head when you said. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this happened or started out. A lot of voter

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<v Speaker 1>suppression tactics started out in the South, um during reconstruction,

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<v Speaker 1>because all of a sudden there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>black people who suddenly had the right to vote in

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<v Speaker 1>the white dominated South, and so the the white establishment

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<v Speaker 1>was at threat of being undermined or replaced by black people,

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<v Speaker 1>where people who were friendly to black interests, and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want that, so um, they started instituting things like

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<v Speaker 1>poll tax, but they had to do it in ways

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<v Speaker 1>where it appeared, um, like it applied to everybody. So

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<v Speaker 1>a poll tax applied to everybody. But then they would

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<v Speaker 1>institute things like grandfather clauses, which literally said, with poll taxes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if your grandfather was able to vote before the Civil War,

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<v Speaker 1>your exempt. Well, black people didn't really have the right

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<v Speaker 1>to vote, especially in the South before the Civil War,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's impossible that their grandfather would have had that right.

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<v Speaker 1>With white people who might have been poor but could

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<v Speaker 1>and afford to pay the poll tax, but we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to vote in favor with wide interests in the

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<v Speaker 1>South during that election, they would be exempted because their

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather could vote before the Civil War, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>that was done. Yeah. And in other Southern states, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they had cumulative taxes on top of just being taxed.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to do this several years in a row

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<v Speaker 1>in order to earn that right to vote. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, um. You know. Of course, this was

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<v Speaker 1>eventually rendered illegal in nineteen sixty four with the ratification

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<v Speaker 1>of the twenty fourth Amendment. They said, you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>poll taxes anymore. After a hundred years, we've determined it's

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<v Speaker 1>not fair. Yeah, And it took a couple of years too,

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<v Speaker 1>So all the way up until nineteen sixty six, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>there were four states that still had laws on the

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<v Speaker 1>books that had to be struck down in federal court

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<v Speaker 1>that poll taxes were okay. Yeah, which is crazy. Another

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<v Speaker 1>one that they did was literacy tests, um, which kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went hand in hand. Again, a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff started out in the the Reek Instruction and then

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Crow South. Um. And if you were black right

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<v Speaker 1>after the Civil War, there was a really good chance

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<v Speaker 1>that you couldn't read way more of a chance um

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<v Speaker 1>when compared to a white person. I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 1>the percentages is, but there were laws on the books

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<v Speaker 1>that said it's illegal for you, as a white person

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<v Speaker 1>to teach your your the people that you have enslaved,

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<v Speaker 1>UM to read or write. It's illegal, like literacy among

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<v Speaker 1>slaves is not is not legal and so UM. One

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<v Speaker 1>way to prevent those people who were now franchised after

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<v Speaker 1>the Civil War UM from voting would be to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be literate to vote because and this

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<v Speaker 1>is sneaky, because if you're not literate, how can you

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<v Speaker 1>possibly be an informed voter. You can't just come in

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<v Speaker 1>and say I want to vote for this person because

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<v Speaker 1>I like their name. You have to be informed, and

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<v Speaker 1>to be informed, you have to be literate. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to test your literacy before we let you vote. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>One good example is in South Carolina and the two

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<v Speaker 1>where you couldn't even if you could manage to learn,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really wanted to vote, and you managed to

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<v Speaker 1>learn to write down your name and and your your ballot,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, no, you got to write down a ballot

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<v Speaker 1>for each office. If you want to vote for governor

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<v Speaker 1>and senator and anything else, then you have to to

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to write down all of those and

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<v Speaker 1>put it in the correct box. This labeled that you

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<v Speaker 1>probably can't read. And we're going to shuffle these boxes

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<v Speaker 1>around too. So even if you have someone that wants

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<v Speaker 1>to help you cast that vote, that's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be allowed to happen either. Um. And you know, forget

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that people are have learning disabilities and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>have legitimate problems learning how to read, even if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn how to read. It's like saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't vote if you if you don't have arms

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<v Speaker 1>to cast to cast a ballot. It's just it's outrageous.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it gets even more outrageous if you go

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<v Speaker 1>to Louisiana, where they had literal brain teasers that you

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<v Speaker 1>had to be able to figure out in order to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>And this one, I I I'm sure if I sat

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<v Speaker 1>down long enough, I could figure it out. But not

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm probably nervous about casting my first vote as

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<v Speaker 1>a former enslaved person. Right. So, so this one in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one was instituted as more and more black

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<v Speaker 1>people learned to read. Um. Which, so just buckle up

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<v Speaker 1>for this one, right, every other word in this first

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<v Speaker 1>line and print every third word in the same line,

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<v Speaker 1>but capitalized the fifth word. That you right, So you

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<v Speaker 1>could conceivably, especially as a literate person, figure this out.

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<v Speaker 1>It would take you a little while, but say that

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<v Speaker 1>you went and you so you wrote all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you got to the last part where it

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<v Speaker 1>said capitalized the fifth word. Then you went back and

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<v Speaker 1>scratched out the small case whatever that fifth word was

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<v Speaker 1>and capitalize that one, or maybe you capitalize all the

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<v Speaker 1>words and you had to go back and put them

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<v Speaker 1>in lower case. The Act that these tests were administered

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<v Speaker 1>by white poll workers and that they were typically subjective,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that if that poll worker decided you failed, you failed.

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<v Speaker 1>When you went back and scratched that out and made,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, capitalize that fifth word, there was probably a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent chance that that white poll worker, who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want you voting in the first place, was going to

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<v Speaker 1>just say, sorry, you failed, you can't vote. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you think, well, sure, but this was the eighteen hundreds. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Some southern states had these brain teaser tests all the

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<v Speaker 1>way up until the mid nineteen sixties, when the Voting

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<v Speaker 1>Rights Act finally said you don't need to do a

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<v Speaker 1>brain teaser to vote. That's um illegal and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dumb. Yeah. So you know, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of UM, a lot of chicanery, effery I think, as

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<v Speaker 1>John Oliver would put it, UM that was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the South. Uh. But I mean the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanisms that I think that that really got you

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<v Speaker 1>u UM that were that really just kind of probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most effective one was just straight up violence, like

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<v Speaker 1>the the Ku Klux Klan, UM, the Knights of the

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<v Speaker 1>White Camelea UM, A bunch of different groups, terrorists, organizations

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<v Speaker 1>grew up two terrorized black people and people who supported

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<v Speaker 1>the rights of black people, UM to send a message

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<v Speaker 1>it saying like no, we're we're the white power structure

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be staying in power around here, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will go so far as to murder you and

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<v Speaker 1>your family and make examples out of you to like

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<v Speaker 1>leaving you in a tree as a signal to everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what happens when you try to vote. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what happens when you you try to register other

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<v Speaker 1>people to vote. UM. And it was a very long

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<v Speaker 1>lasting legacy that went on from the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War up until I believe Congress finally, UH passed

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<v Speaker 1>a law saying that no, this is this is illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do this kind of thing. But it went

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<v Speaker 1>on for decades like this. Yeah, they finally made it

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<v Speaker 1>a federal crime and more than three thousand clan members

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<v Speaker 1>were indicted. Only about six hundred of those were actually

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<v Speaker 1>convicted because again we're talking about juries in the South

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part. Uh, this seems like a good

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<v Speaker 1>time to take a break, Okay, and we'll pick back

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<v Speaker 1>up with number seven right after this number seven. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some just to give you a little historical background

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. There's some um, there's reconstruction where black Americans

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<v Speaker 1>become in franchise they have the right to vote. In

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<v Speaker 1>response to that, there's terror, there's Jim Crow laws. And

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<v Speaker 1>then in response to the Jim Crow laws that that

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<v Speaker 1>just overtly suppressed the Black vote, there was the Voting

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<v Speaker 1>Rights Act. And for a long time, the Voting Rights

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<v Speaker 1>Act was really effective. And the reason why it was

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<v Speaker 1>effective was because there was a section to it, section five,

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<v Speaker 1>that said, hey, if you've ever ever engaged in voter discrimination,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on a statewide basis, on a systemic basis, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have us. The federal government review any changes

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<v Speaker 1>to the voting procedure in your state before you can

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<v Speaker 1>implement them. And so any state that wanted to try

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with some voter suppression tactic, it might

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<v Speaker 1>be brilliant, but if the federal government said no, they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it, and so the vote would be saved

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<v Speaker 1>in that respect. Well, in two thousand thirteen, the Robert's

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<v Speaker 1>leg Court um struck down Section five of the Voting

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<v Speaker 1>Rights Act. So now we're seeing the results of that

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<v Speaker 1>where voter suppression tactics are starting to come back, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're starting to come back in like this avalanche of

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<v Speaker 1>tactics where across the country. If you put them all together,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a real problem. But the Voting Rights Act figured

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<v Speaker 1>in dramatically to save the vote of people. UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>the gutting of that section five and two thousand thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>by the Supreme Court did the exact opposite to it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. One tactic that they could use and use

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<v Speaker 1>for many years was just making it and still used

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<v Speaker 1>to some degree, making it difficult to register or to vote. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are some of the things that used to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you have to keep reregistering many many times you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a street address with an actual name

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<v Speaker 1>and number. And if you were an African American living

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<v Speaker 1>in the rural South, you may not have an actual

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<v Speaker 1>street address. UM on the dirt road next to the

0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:55.240
<v Speaker 1>field that you farm. Um. You know, little things like this,

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<v Speaker 1>these technicalities to meet these requirements to vote that they

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<v Speaker 1>knew that African Americans didn't have. And you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>are were and are still literal conversations, some of them

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<v Speaker 1>these days are even on tape where you hear of

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<v Speaker 1>public officials talk about making it hard for black people

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<v Speaker 1>to vote. And if we do this, this is how

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<v Speaker 1>many people we think we can keep off the voter

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<v Speaker 1>registration logs. Uh. It's just it's shameful. And UM, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surprised we're not screaming at this point. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it together. It wasn't just in the South, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>in the North and in the West in the early

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen hundreds, Um, there were immigrants, and they didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants voting. A lot of times, UM, ethnic and religious

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<v Speaker 1>minorities they didn't want voting. So in places in the

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<v Speaker 1>North and the West, like New Jersey and California, they

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<v Speaker 1>made it tough for immigrants to vote by saying you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have your uh, your original naturalization papers at

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<v Speaker 1>the polling place. Or maybe we don't want maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>interests of people who work in factories don't align with

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<v Speaker 1>our So here's what we'll do. Those people work long

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twelve hour shifts, can't make it to the polls.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to close the registration offices before those

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<v Speaker 1>factories shut down every day to keep them from voting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were there were other ways, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that they went back to close these loopholes too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was a real public private partnership between the

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<v Speaker 1>government and other groups. There were there were groups that

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<v Speaker 1>were dedicated to kind of preserving white supremacy in the South.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that would um, that would boycott businesses that where

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<v Speaker 1>they found out that those those employers gave their black

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<v Speaker 1>employees time off during the day to go registered to

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<v Speaker 1>vote or to vote, Like, you could lose your customer

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<v Speaker 1>base because if they found out that you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>that with with black people, um or with your black employees.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were like even if you say, well, so

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<v Speaker 1>what it was hard to get registered to vote? Figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out, Um, it was disproportionately leveled at black vote ers,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if you did figure it out, there were

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<v Speaker 1>repercussions for figuring it out too. Yeah, or in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know that UM a lot of Jewish people

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<v Speaker 1>might vote in a more liberal way, Hey, let's have

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<v Speaker 1>registration times on Saturdays and yam kapoor. When we know

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that Jewish people won't be able to get out and

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<v Speaker 1>registered to vote, it's high time that we make UH

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<v Speaker 1>voting days national holidays. I agree, Chuck. I agree it

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<v Speaker 1>should be a paid holiday, UM, a national paid holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>or have it on Saturdays. Do something but make it

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<v Speaker 1>less hard for sure. Yeah, Like people need to be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to vote. And we're not talking about UM voter fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about legal Americans having the right in the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to vote in as easy away as possible. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you also say, well, if they really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to vote, they would, they would find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. When's it lie time you didn't log into

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<v Speaker 1>a website because it required two factor authentication from your

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>break And we're talking about having to take a bus

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<v Speaker 1>across the county to registered to vote when you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be working and your employer won't give you time off,

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:15.560
<v Speaker 1>so you have to take sick time to just go

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<v Speaker 1>register to vote, and then you have to do it

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<v Speaker 1>all again to go vote. It's it's more problematic than

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<v Speaker 1>it appears. Just when you're saying it out loud. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a good burn. Sick burn, thanks man. UH Number six,

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<v Speaker 1>Straight up, voter intimidation still happens to a large degree. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand four, it was reported that in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>in the state election there, they sent plain closed state

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<v Speaker 1>troopers to the homes of fifty elderly black voters to

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<v Speaker 1>question them for supposed election fraud um. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>they asked the state officials why they sent these state troopers,

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<v Speaker 1>they said, well, we saw we thought it might be

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<v Speaker 1>a more relaxed atmosphere to to come to their home

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and ask these elder really black voters about whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not they participated in voter fraud, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this investigation turned up absolutely no fraud whatsoever, so it

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen, um, which is like basically all investigations of

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.160
<v Speaker 1>voter fraud turn up no fraud whatsoever, And a lot

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of people say, well, these investigations are really just um

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.879
<v Speaker 1>intimidation tactics, and this one, to me is one of

0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the more despicable ones because it directly traces right back,

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 1>uninterrupted to the reconstruction era and the fact that it's

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 1>still going on today is just despicable to me. But

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.080
<v Speaker 1>they it is. And it's not just um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>state troopers showing up at your house to ask you personally.

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>There was a really famous case that our dear governor

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<v Speaker 1>in Georgia, Brian kemp um when he was Secretary of State,

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<v Speaker 1>because we need to remember he was Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 1>running an election that he was the one of the

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<v Speaker 1>two candidates for governor in UM and a lot of

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>people say, well, he did some shady stuff, which we'll

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about later, but when he was just straight up

0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>secretary of State, he oversaw the arrest of the equipment

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 1>ten plus two where to African American school Board school

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>board officials UM who were elected a couple of times

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in this one election in a runoff, fair and square,

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>they were arrested and their supporters and campaign advisors were

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<v Speaker 1>arrested and taken to jail and had mug shots of

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 1>them put on the news. UM because they were accused

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>of voter fraud and after years, the charges were finally dropped.

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Not a single person went to jail, no one was convicted. Um,

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of people point to that and say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't understand that as a clear message to

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>African American not just voters but also office holders, um,

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 1>that they shouldn't bother running or else their lives are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be ruined, then you're you're really missing the

0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 1>point here. Yeah, in two thousand fourteen, that is another

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>intimidation tactic. Uh. And this is just you know, these

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.640
<v Speaker 1>things that aren't technically illegal, but where candidates is trying

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 1>to be very sneaky and if they can, you know,

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 1>if they can trick a hundred voters into doing the

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>wrong thing, then it's their their time has been well

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>spent in their minds. But Mitch McConnell's campaign sent out

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<v Speaker 1>these mailers that were marked election violation notice, and it

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>had the warning you are at risk of acting on

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>fraudulent information. And you start to read it and what

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it is is just, um, basically, here's my opposition candidate,

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and UM, we don't like what they say, so this

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is fraudulent information. But they dress it up in a

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>way sort of like the publisher's clearing house. That makes,

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, our our elderly citizens drive across the country

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking they have actually won real money. Right, this is

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 1>the making it. Yeah, this is the opposite of that,

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 1>but using the same tricks. Basically, it's like you get

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a notice in the mail, um, and these you know,

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>it's usually preying on people that are that are older

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>in our country, which is sad and awful. Uh. And

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 1>they get a notice in their mail that says, oh

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I'm at risk of acting on fraudulent information. Yeah,

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know they took this. Uh, they were sued,

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>but a federal judge said, no, I'm sorry, uh rejected basically, Yeah,

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and I mean and also intimidation to um can be official,

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>like in part of official policies, like some of those

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>poll taxes in the South. Um, they added the extra

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>layer of keeping you from even trying by saying the

0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 1>only place you can go pay for the poll taxes

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>that your sheriff's office. Right, you might say, especially if

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>you're white, Uh, well, big deal, I have to go

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to the sheriff's office. Well imagine if you went to

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the sheriff's office and there was a really good chance

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>that while you were there paying your poll tax so

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that you could go vote. And for that reason only,

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>they said, hey, by the way, while you're here, you know,

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>we've got this case open. Where were you on Tuesday night?

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.679
<v Speaker 1>And you would tell them and they would say, well

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>can you prove it? Um, just knowing that that was

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a possibility, and if you don't realize that was a possibility,

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I would urge you to brush up on your Jim

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Crow South history. Um would would dissuade a lot of people,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I would guess from going to pay that poll tax

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and then going to vote. Remember when Helmer Simpson, I

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>thought you want to vote and I had to go

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to the police station to claim his prize. Yeah that

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>was a good one though, Yeah, that was a good one.

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Another one, number five is something that is still You

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Brian Kemp in Georgia, UM, pruning names from the

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>voter rolls. I thought that that was I thought that

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that was a generous word that they used, pruning, pruning,

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>because it makes it seem like methodical and um, you know,

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>well informed. Yeah. Well this has happened time and time again.

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Before the two thousand election for president in Florida, once again,

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>state officials Republican controlled Florida. They hired a private firm

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to go through the registration rolls delete names who are

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>people who had died, who were registered multiple times in

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>multiple places, or convicted felons or declared mentally incompetent in

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>court proceedings. And you might think, well, that's great, because

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you know you don't want uh, deceased people on voter rolls,

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>which is true. But what about when you make mistakes

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and you delete a lot of voters who are fully

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>eligible to vote. Then what happens? And the answer is nothing, No,

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>there's not. And by the time that it does turn

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>out like, oh, we made a mistake, the elections long over.

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 1>These these inquiries and their reports that they produce are

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 1>usually a couple of years after the fact um. But

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the in Georgia in particular, they found out that again,

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the guy who oversaw the purging of the voter rolls

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>was one of the two candidates in the election. Just

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>basic ethics says, you recuse yourself, you have nothing to

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>do with us, or you say no, no, no, let's

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>not do this, or let's do it the right way,

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>not let's purge this many people that we actually mistakenly

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>removed two hundred thousand people removed their right to vote

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>in this in this election, two hundred thousand. And then,

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>just to add horrible irony to the whole thing, it

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>was only by fifty five thousand votes that that Brian

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Kemp beat Stacy Abrams in that gubernatorial election. Yeah, that

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>was a bitter pill here in Georgia because remember it

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>was like I think it was the week or it

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>may even be the eve of the election when they

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>lobbied the charge that the Republican UH system had been

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>hacked and that they were launching a case against Abrams

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to look into it. And then you know, after the election,

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of course they're like, oh, we were wrong. They didn't

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>hack us after all, right, Which again, who who said

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that they that they were hacked? Was that the Secretary

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.959
<v Speaker 1>of State Brian Kemp, who was so running for governor

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 1>against Stacy Abrahams. Yeah, yeah, what about voter I D.

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Voters should take a break. Oh yeah, let's take a break.

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty charged up here, all right, We'll take a

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>break and we'll talk about voter I D and some

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>in a few more things right after this. So we

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about voter I D chuck in, um,

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the voter suppression episode, which again go go listen to that, guys.

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a good one as well. Um. But

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the upshot of it, there's that word again. The upshot

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>of it is that, um, if you require someone to

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>show there that they are who they say they are

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>when when they go vote, you can make a good

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>case that at the very at least, you're adding an

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>obstacle or a barrier to voting. But you could also say, well,

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>if you have to pay for that, that technically constitutes

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.959
<v Speaker 1>a poll tax. And people say, oh, yeah, well Section

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>five of the Voting Rights Act doesn't exist anymore, so

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>go sit on it. Ralph mouth. Yeah, I mean in

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>some states it costs up to sixty bucks. That's that's unconscionable, man,

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>that I D. And you know, sixty dollars for some

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>people is their grocery money for the week when you

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>lift paycheck to paycheck. And again, you know, it's really

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>easy to say, well, you know, just pay the money

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and go out and get your I D. So you

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>can vote if you really want to vote. That's a

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>choice between that and putting food on the table for

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>your kids. It's a barrier to voting, plain and simple. Yeah.

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And also, I mean there are plenty of states who

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that rightly who require a voter I d um rightly

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>off or free ideas that you can use to vote.

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Um Like, that's definitely the way that it should be.

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>But that's still again, any time you require somebody to

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>potentially take time off of work, that puts an enormous

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>burden on like working like the working poort, like people

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>who just can't afford to take time off of work.

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>They might be in a job where there's enough people,

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>um who would love to have that job that if

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they take a sick day, their boss can be like,

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I know, you weren't sick, and you're fired.

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>This is the last straw. So your job could actually

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>be on the line. Could be more than just a

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>loss of hours, It could equal the loss of a job.

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And again, we live in a democratic country where the barriers,

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the barriers to democracy should be lowered, not raised lowered.

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>And yes, we should vigorously prosecute any instance of fraud,

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>but because that hasn't been shown to exist, lowering the

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>barriers so people can legally vote is not problematic. And

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it's andy democratic to do that to raise them. It is.

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>And when you when you hear these uh these taped conversations,

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not talking about voter fraud. They're saying, hey, we

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>can get probably a two point five percent reduction of

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>African American voter turn out in this county if we

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>do X. And I again, like we keep saying African

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>American voter turn out. Like when when there was when

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I think Miami UM purged their voter roles in I

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>don't remember exactly when it was, but there was a

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>commission that did a report on it, and their purge

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>affected sixty like six of the people who are deleted

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>were black voters, even though those voters represented just twenty

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>point four percent of the population, whereas only sixteen point

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>six percent of the people who are purged were white,

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>even though those people represented seventy seven percent of the public.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, like if you if you look at studies

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff, it disprop portunately impacts black voters, typically

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>minority vote voters as a whole, but definitely black voters

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>for sure. And that's not to say like the Republican

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Party just hates black people. The Republican Party knows that

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>African Americans typically tend to vote Democrat and they're a

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>large group of people, so if you can make it

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 1>harder for them to vote, UM, you're probably going to

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>affect the Democrats vote, not your vote. Yeah. Another thing

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that you can do is close UH polling stations and

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>limit polling hours in counties where you think it might

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>help your vote. UM. There are a bunch of swing

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>states North Carolina, Ohio and some other states that have

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>cut early voting days or hours. UM. There was a

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>report in two thousand fourteen that said they're more likely

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to inconvenience black voters who liked to vote early and

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>in person historically. UM. In Maricopa County in Arizona, there

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>were four voting voting locations in two thousand eight. In

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>two thousand sixteen there were sixty. This is a huge,

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 1>huge problem, a huge problem. This is one one way

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that this is going on, making it harder to vote

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>by making voting less available to people when it can

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.359
<v Speaker 1>totally be afforded. UM. It's being pruned. UM. And it's

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.479
<v Speaker 1>not just Texas, although Texas has some agregious stuff going

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>on since two thousand UM. Oh I don't remember. Two

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>thou fourteen, maybe Texas has shut down seven hundred and

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>sixty polling locations places to vote, seven hundred and sixty

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>and there they they currently have on the UM on

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the agenda. I don't know if it's been pasted or

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>if it's just been proposed or what. But UM, if

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to vote by UM mail in ballot, the

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>drop off locations in Texas has been reduced to one

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>per county. They said, that's it. One place in two

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty four counties. There there's one place in

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>each of those counties where you can take your ballot

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to drop it off. The problem with this is that

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>some of Texas counties are enormous. Texas has a number

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>of counties that are larger than Connecticut and Rhode Island

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>put together. They have something like a hundred and twenty

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>counties that are larger than Rhode Island. Granted, Rhode Island

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.919
<v Speaker 1>is small, but Rhode Island is a small state. These

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>are counties in Texas we're talking about, and in one

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.439
<v Speaker 1>place in each of those counties, there's a place where

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you can drop off your your mail in ballot. UM.

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.919
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's a problem and a lot of people

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>are just going bonkers over that one. Yeah. And beyond

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>closing polling places, like having to maybe take two or

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>three city buses to get to your place to vote.

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>When you finally get there, if you managed to go

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>through all that trouble, which is again they're trying to

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 1>to make you say, you know what, it's not worth

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the trouble. H, then you're met with you know, five six,

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>seven hour lines all day long, right, and this is

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>what you get for your for your troubles to try

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and participate an American democracy. Yeah, so going on you

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>on your lunch break doesn't end up working out very well.

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 1>What about trickery number two? This is pretty awful. Um,

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you talked about that one by um the people. I

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was Mitch McConnell's campaign or just

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a group supporting him, or if it was one and

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the same. Who knows, um tricking people by saying you're

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>about to act on fraudulent information or something that's I mean,

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>that's long standing. There is one. I'm guarantee we talked

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>about this before. I'm almost positive. But in two thousand

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and eight, Um, someone in Virginia sent a flyer out

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that looked like it was from the state Board of

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Elections that said, Um, if you're a Republican, you should

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>vote on November four. If you're a Democrat, you vote

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>on November five, which is the day after the election,

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>which is in one way hilarious. I mean, it's just

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>hysterical that that somebody did that in another way, and

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it could have even if it didn't,

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>but it could have impacted somebody's vote by purposefully confusing them.

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>That's despicable. Again, that's a word I keep going to

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.959
<v Speaker 1>because I genuinely feel that way about going to any

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>length to to deprive or fool someone out of voting. Right.

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>But if you get caught doing that, truly, there is

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a massive debt to pay via jail time. Like in

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Maryland in two thousand ten, a robocall campaign during the

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>gubernatorial election told thousands of voters in African American neighborhoods

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that they could quote relax and stay at home that

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 1>evening because Democratic incumbent Governor Martin O'Malley had already won

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the election. Uh, not true. The polls were closed, and

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't just tricksters. This was Paul Shurick, who was

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>the campaign manager for the Republican opponent UM who went

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>ended up winning, and they caught him and he was

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 1>charged and found guilty of four counts of election fraud.

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 1>And you think, all right, throw the book at the guy.

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.399
<v Speaker 1>What did he get? What did he get? He got

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:15.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty days home detention, probation and community service, right, which

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>is really disappointing, not because that guy deserved worse, but

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 1>because our federal um, the penalties for federal election laws

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 1>are breaking them, UM, that are meant to protect people's

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.240
<v Speaker 1>right to vote and punish people who try to deprive

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>people at the right to vote. Those are federal laws

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and the penalties are supposed to be pretty stiff. So

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty days of house arrest at his house, um, when

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 1>he when really he made a name for himself, is like, hey,

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll make sure that you're going to get elected as

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 1>a campaign manager. That's very disappointing for sure. Well, because

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<v Speaker 1>the message it sends is it's totally worth it to

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<v Speaker 1>do this swinging, swinging election, little community service. Who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's two guys, um, who are I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen to them, but they are. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of charges against them right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>for this, I believe the election UM they had they

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored a bunch of robo calls, tens of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>robo calls in places like Michigan, Chicago, UM, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe they were targeting African American UH voters where it

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<v Speaker 1>said if you vote by mail, your information is subject

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<v Speaker 1>to be handed over to the police and run for

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>UM any potential outstanding warrants, or it may be added

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<v Speaker 1>to the mandatory vaccine list, as if that exists. But

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<v Speaker 1>just playing on people's deepest fears to to to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>them for voting, to dissuade them from voting. You'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a genuine scumbag of the highest order to

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:50.959
<v Speaker 1>do something like that. And they caught these two guys,

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Jacob Wall and Jack Berkman doing just that UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, there they I guess when

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<v Speaker 1>they registered these robot calls UM, they registered it to

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<v Speaker 1>one of their phone numbers and then came out and

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<v Speaker 1>blamed it on Democratic Operatives UM, because they wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>possibly used their own phone number for this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to add a little cherry on top. I just say,

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<v Speaker 1>all this is alleged because they're they're charged with this

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<v Speaker 1>right now, but they haven't been convicted, right Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they have some community service to look forward to,

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>ye in some house arrest. So um. The final one

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<v Speaker 1>on the list here is is a controversial one to

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<v Speaker 1>be sure, but whether or not you should be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to vote as a felon or as someone who has

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>ever convicted been convicted of a crime. Uh and many

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and this is one that's kind of going the other

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<v Speaker 1>way now, but for many, many years in many states,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have ever been convicted of any crime, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you went to prison, served your time, got out,

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're leading a great beneficial life towards society, you

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.280
<v Speaker 1>are not allowed to vote anymore, right, which has started

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to become overturned I think in two thousand eight teen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida. Florida's had this long standing um disenfranchisement policy

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<v Speaker 1>which most people have accepted for for years. But then

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>finally some people came along and said, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 1>really affecting a lot of people who want to vote,

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>who've who you know, serve their time, who have become reformed,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be full citizens again, can we give

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<v Speaker 1>them the right back to vote? And in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen, that was on the on the ballot and

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<v Speaker 1>Florida voters overwhelmingly said, yes, totally, let's do that. They

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<v Speaker 1>have to have served their time and repaid all of

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>their restitutions, but we're we're going to um give them

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<v Speaker 1>the right to vote back. And it was a huge victory.

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 1>And then there was a Republican lawmaker who said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, this is kind of vague. UM. It

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<v Speaker 1>says that they have to have um, have have fulfilled

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>all of their sentencing obligations. There's a lot of these

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>people who are about to get their their right to

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<v Speaker 1>vote back who haven't paid all their fines and fees, which,

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<v Speaker 1>as it's been understood traditionally, you have basically lifetime to

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<v Speaker 1>pay off the the actual financial fees and restitution that

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>come along with UM being convicted of a crime. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That that that you have to pay that off first.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's in the law and actually got passed in

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<v Speaker 1>the Florida legislature, Republican controlled legislature that UM, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay all of your fines and fees first before

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<v Speaker 1>you can get enfranchised again, and that's proving to be

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>an enormous problem for a lot of the UH former convicts. Yeah,

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>so it you know it continues to this day. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we got on our soapbox and pretty passionate about

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>this one. But we're both believers in the right to

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<v Speaker 1>vote and to make it as easy as possible for

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>UH eligible voters to vote. I don't see any argument

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>counter to that. That's that's valid. Why why wouldn't you

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and a great democracy want as many people to vote

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>as possible. Again, the only argument you will see again

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and again is voter fraud. And if you can show

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that voter fraud doesn't exist, then you just knock the

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>legs out from under it and all it's just exposes

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>voter suppression then, so hopefully the more people who know

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>about it chuck, the harder it is to do stuff

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 1>like this. And I hope that that's the case, because

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that's why we shared this, Because I don't care what

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 1>political persuasion you are, it's wrong to suppress the vote.

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>It's just wrong. I'm sorry. If you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more about voter suppression, UM, you can go try to

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<v Speaker 1>vote and see what happens and since I said that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for and by the way, go vote, go vote.

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:37.839
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think by the time this comes out,

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>most of the state's registration will be um shut down.

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But for the future, even if you voted in the

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>last election, like I check mine two or three times

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>before every election because I don't want to show up

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>on election day at my polling place and be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>to learn that I'm not on the roll or the register,

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 1>or that my polling place has moved. Just check it,

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 1>check it, and check it and recheck it. Yeah, and

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.839
<v Speaker 1>there's tons of websites out there that um legit websites

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>that aren't affiliated with any party that can help you

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>check that um. And if you are registered to vote,

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>please vote whoever you vote for. Just vote like it's

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>important that you vote, so go be a good American vote.

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And since I said that, finally, I think Chuck, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for listener mail. Uh. This is from Ellie. She says, Hey, guys,

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>live in Kansas working Topeka, and I just listened to

0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the episode on Fallout Shelters. I cannot begin to explain

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to you the nerdy level of excitement I felt while

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>driving to a client meeting when I spotted a yellow

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>sign with the three triangles, just as you said there

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>would be in the episode. I wanted so badly to

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>stop and steal the sign off of the old brick,

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>nondescript building, but I didn't think that would bode well

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>since I worked for the state and I was in

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a state licensed vehicle at the time. I think people

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.280
<v Speaker 1>would have just guessed that you were requisitioning and kicking

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>it down. Yeah, would have been state. You would have

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>had to keep the nerdy giddiness in check. Not surprisingly,

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the shelter is just two blocks from the Capitol Building

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>downtown because we all know in a crisis situation, politicians

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:14.399
<v Speaker 1>like to make sure they're taking care of first love

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<v Speaker 1>random history tidbits, so you best believe I'm mentally cataloging

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye out for more shelters in this area

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to randomly point out to my husband who have no

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>idea what I'm talking about any who. Thank you for

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>your podcast and for keeping me company on my our commute.

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Stay healthy and wear a mask because the coronavirus is

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>in fact real, and that is from Ellie t or L.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I think so e l L E yep L

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<v Speaker 1>t I'm going to try to suss out what kind

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of person l is um did L spell any who

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<v Speaker 1>with a w h o or an h o o h?

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>What what's your guess? Shoes nerdy, giddy over fallout shelters.

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna get who you are? Correct? Yes, yes,

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>all is one word and y w h yeah, because

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that that um that suggests a certain amount

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:15.280
<v Speaker 1>of attention to rules and details. Note that she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take the fallout shelter sign even though she could have,

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and any who h o oh, it's much more like

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.800
<v Speaker 1>whimsic goal and like I'll take my shoes off and

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>roll down the hill even though I'm in my fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of right. But she also believes that masks save lives,

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>so you know, attention to rule in details. Uh, well,

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot, L. That's fantastic and we appreciate hearing

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 1>from you. Kudos to to resisting temptation and yes, wear

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a mask and go vote boy oh boy. We have

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 1>ticked a lot of people off with this episode, Chuck.

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.360
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0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.399
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0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.120
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0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.480
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