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Speaker 1: E dot com. I don't know if listeners can appreciate

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Speaker 1: the impact of Phil's setup. I think people are thinking

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Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating when I said I didn't know twice now,

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Speaker 1: this room is not big. How big this room was it?

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Speaker 3: Twelve by twelve, it's about fourteen by fifteen.

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Speaker 4: I think fourteen by fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's been two times I've been there's no

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Speaker 1: internal walls, no curtains, And two times I've been in

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Speaker 1: here and been startled by Phil's presence or.

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Speaker 2: That he's not here, and he was actually, oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: I got earlier.

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Speaker 1: I was mad that he wasn't here at work, but

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Speaker 1: he was back there behind his array.

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Speaker 3: I gotta admit I kind of like it that way.

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Speaker 3: I like being a little hidden.

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Speaker 4: This is the third time I brought it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really it's really bugging yet, I stuck in

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Speaker 3: your craw.

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Speaker 5: Dude, I can't even see you if I try.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's right, Well, the listeners can see me.

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Speaker 1: We're kicking around, either putting little pictures of Phil where

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Speaker 1: he would normally be or making an election. If there's

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Speaker 1: any mirror specialists out there. I had an electrician there today.

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Speaker 1: I asked me if I ever needed any electrical work,

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Speaker 1: he'd be happy to do it. But he was in Texas.

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Speaker 1: But if there's a mirror specialist in town that had

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Speaker 1: could array, I guess it'd be one mirror that he's

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Speaker 1: looking at, then that mirror blasts off the wall behind him,

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Speaker 1: and then a mirror by the Muskox picks it up.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd have to consider it from all angles too,

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Speaker 3: So I think this room would be mostly mirrors at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: It would be like one of those things at like

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Speaker 6: county fairs that you walk into and you run into

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Speaker 6: the walls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. People that make action movies can't help but have

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Speaker 1: shootouts in them.

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Speaker 3: Which one's real?

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Speaker 4: Uh Chester, what can you uh produce that your jig.

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Speaker 1: And rap again. Oh yeah, yeah, Chester put me onto

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal jig and rap bite last night.

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Speaker 2: How phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: We caught our limit of wally dogs, which is about

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Speaker 1: four or five. Yeah, little shavers, great eaters eat yeah,

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Speaker 1: perfect saying when walleye there's no such thing as small

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Speaker 1: walleyes and big ones. There's eaters and biggins. It's like

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Speaker 1: it's a win win eaters and biggins. But the givers, yeah,

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Speaker 1: little shavers eaters. That is a lethal weapon.

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Speaker 5: These things are is it really is.

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Speaker 1: Like the odds of that wallye being just hooked in

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Speaker 1: the lip are low.

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Speaker 6: Well, the thing so these are are glide baits essentially,

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Speaker 6: and any glide bait kind of has little wings on

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Speaker 6: it and it's a very sporadic darter bait. So they go,

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, all over and the fish cannot help. But

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Speaker 6: like they're just like see something dart by their face

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Speaker 6: and pop in the mud. They go and investigate it

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Speaker 6: and like kind of they kind of like hop on

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Speaker 6: top of it essentially, and then you go to do

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Speaker 6: your your quick jig again and next thing, you know,

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Speaker 6: when you're next thing, you know, you got one.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have a camera down there, see what's

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Well, you know when I use now

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Speaker 1: use leadhead jigs with a big grub body on them,

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Speaker 1: they can catch it, you know, and you get fewer.

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Speaker 1: I've been onto like slow pitch and flutter jigs last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Man, they have a hard time catching it,

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Speaker 1: like because he misses it.

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Speaker 4: You'll feel him.

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Speaker 1: He'll miss it.

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Speaker 4: Bam, he'll miss it bam.

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Speaker 1: Then he either gets bored or you hook him on

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Speaker 1: this and he just goes off looking for something easier

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Speaker 5: Rabbit, Yeah, it's unpredictable, but.

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Speaker 1: They sure want to bite it. Yeah, you should could have,

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Speaker 1: you shoulduld have. Uh what do you call me? A

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Speaker 1: jiggen rap jiggen.

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Speaker 5: Rap sponsor glide bait?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so mus.

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Speaker 4: Just send Chester like a bunch of glide baits.

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Speaker 1: You just get a mold because that's like a real cost.

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Speaker 4: Chester.

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Speaker 1: When he's doing the when he's doing his family finances,

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Speaker 1: he's like tackle.

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Speaker 7: Those are probably what eight eight bucks a pop too?

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Speaker 2: Eight nine Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got that one for Chester because I lost

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Speaker 2: one of his yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you, Brody. Are we gonna hang this in

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Speaker 5: the podcast studio?

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Speaker 4: No, you get it right, hag wrap.

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Speaker 1: Down there, dude.

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Speaker 6: We were talking about though, you need they need to

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Speaker 6: make some of these for when you guys are up

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Speaker 6: in Alaska at the fish shack.

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Speaker 5: A big one for ling.

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Speaker 2: Cod twelve ounce.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. I was saying, Man, if you

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Speaker 1: can get like a ten or twelve ounce jigging wrap,

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Speaker 1: he would do two things.

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Speaker 4: One, you'd snag.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else like you'd be like, guys, I'm gonna fish

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Speaker 4: While, try myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, clear the anchor, and then uh, the other thing

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Speaker 1: is is you Yeah, you'd get a lot of hits.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta be you gotta be careful with them

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Speaker 6: though they're dangerous. This is like the number one thing

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Speaker 6: getting your fingers hooked right here. Oftentimes I'll clip off

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Speaker 6: this front front hook here because rarely you do do

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Speaker 6: you hook him on there? But anyways, chicken wrap, great bait.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back to something else you got sitting there

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Speaker 1: and on top about Okay, I'm holding Brodies. You can

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Speaker 1: bring this all to Alaska. Yeah, tell about this your

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Speaker 1: your priest here man that my dad made that.

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Speaker 2: That's a homemade persuader, I think he called it.

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Speaker 1: We used to call him the priest. Yeah, because it

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Speaker 1: gives your last rite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, my dad made that. And and like

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Speaker 2: the late I think I got the time frames roughly correct.

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Speaker 2: But Lake Ear used to have a salmon fishery, like

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Speaker 2: troll for coho like on the beaches just between the

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Speaker 2: He was in a canoe with a little two and

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Speaker 2: a half foot Evan rude.

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Speaker 1: He just really between the sandbars and stuff. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: he just catch a nice browns caught some people would

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Speaker 1: catch nice browns, like the troll on the beach.

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Speaker 2: He'd troll spoons and like bomber plugs and ship like that.

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Speaker 2: And when he would catch one, he'd put a notch

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you right now.

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Speaker 8: Oh really, it's like rings in New York.

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Speaker 9: Is that wood or is that is that a no?

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's a steel.

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Speaker 9: Rod under there.

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Speaker 1: He got sixteen but that that, uh, it's satisfying. What's

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Speaker 1: under there, steel.

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Speaker 10: Rod, what's on the outside, it's like a baton.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you put that rubber coating on

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Speaker 6: Whenever Steve gets something like that in his hand, he

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Speaker 1: In his own Yeah, it's not his picture man like

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Speaker 1: Brody like in trivia or something. I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you're wrong, but that uh, that same and Fishery

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Speaker 2: they changed their management for Lake Erie and went to Steelhead.

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Speaker 2: They don't manage for salmon at all anymore. Yeah, Ohio

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Speaker 2: know where they're coming from, but yeah, that that thing

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Speaker 2: didn't last long, you get it. They got like a

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Speaker 2: six week season for those salmon at least like inland,

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Speaker 4: But they're not stocking the piss out.

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Speaker 2: It's a Steelhead game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And some of the other areas in the Great Lakes,

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Speaker 1: they've really started to emphasize the native lake trout right right,

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Speaker 1: do it more around there's some of those around Lake

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all kinds of shit that. Like Lake Erie,

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Speaker 2: I think you used to have a commercial whitefish fishery.

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Speaker 2: Sure they don't anymore. They used to have a commercial

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Speaker 2: walleye fishery.

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Speaker 5: Still a fantastic walleye fishery.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Is it because people don't want whitefish or there are

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Speaker 2: I think it has a lot to do with the

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Speaker 2: pollution that they destroyed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in the eighteen hundreds, they destroyed the sturgeon fishery,

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Speaker 1: ruin the fisheries in the Great Lakes, the original fisheries

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Speaker 1: all that white pine and stuff, they would raft it

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Speaker 1: That was like one of many things. And he had,

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Speaker 1: you know, the tan like at that time, the tanneries

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Speaker 1: that were just very, very sensitive to any kind of disturbance.

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Speaker 1: The food sources got all screwed up, and so they

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Speaker 1: started just trying to backfill it with other stuff. So

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Speaker 1: like when I was grew up in Lake Michigan, we

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Speaker 1: had we had three of the five Pacific salmon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had pinks, pinks or humpies, kings or chinook silvers

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Speaker 1: are co hos. I never heard of them doing dogs

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Speaker 1: or chunk dog slash chum. I never heard of them

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Speaker 1: doing sake. And then they up up the sky up

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Speaker 1: in Uh. Sue Saint Marie worked for a long time

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Speaker 1: on Atlantics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I Ontario to bring in the.

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Speaker 1: One Atlantic salmon, and they would take these Atlantics. There's

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Speaker 1: a thing. Uh. I lived up there for a short

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Speaker 1: Lakespeare State University, which reminds me of the Edmond Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about that. In a second

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Speaker 1: up at Lake State University, that there's this thing called

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Speaker 1: the Sue Edison hydro electric damn. And when water comes

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Speaker 1: off Lake Superior, it drops about twenty three feet, I think,

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Speaker 1: which forms the Sue Rapids. So Superior sits I think.

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Speaker 1: I think it's twenty three feet higher than hereon. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Chester, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You could shoot it way up into that culvert.

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Speaker 2: How wide was that thing?

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Speaker 4: How wide was the culvert?

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Speaker 4: You could stand there and look that water so strong,

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Speaker 5: Much, and then when you hook one with all that current.

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Speaker 4: Oh, they blast back behind you.

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Speaker 2: Not exactly a purest fly fishing method, because the mag Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Those are just multiplier reels, multiplier reels large like a

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Speaker 1: Yeh, God, it was fun.

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Speaker 11: Man sounds, Steve, sounds like you need like a jiggen

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Speaker 1: So the the university somehow the Sioux Edison Electric thing

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Speaker 2: That was back when they're still okay with introducing all

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Speaker 1: Chester report back in a second. Chrinis is what the

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Speaker 4: So but hear me out.

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Speaker 1: This is just gonna start getting interesting now it hasn't

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Speaker 4: And then cut them loose right there.

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Speaker 1: six would have some like two or three, right, Raceway

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Speaker 1: They knew what that smelled like, and they were like there.

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Speaker 2: Great Lakes fisheries.

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Speaker 4: Oh Brody's little beaten stick. It was a nice beating stick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now to bring this full circle back to the Edmund

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Speaker 1: All the time?

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't hear any of that.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to complain about it, so I couldn't really

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Speaker 2: A lot of people come up to file complaints stuff.

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Speaker 1: Uh, well, I told you. Were you here when I

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Speaker 1: told you about what? Someone came up to me and

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Speaker 1: talk about with Krin.

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Speaker 10: I don't know put on for this that she Uh

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Speaker 10: they thought she looked smart.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't figure out why she did so bad at trivia,

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Speaker 9: Uh smart and getting You know, it.

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Speaker 6: Had eighty turbine chambers. Does that sound right? And only

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be. That sounds about right now.

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Speaker 5: I counted, but it was it was hard.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the numbers, But I think that we

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Speaker 1: I'd like to go back there and hit that fishery.

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Speaker 2: God, I was a lot of I was going to

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Speaker 2: ask you if you know if it's still going on there.

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Speaker 1: Dude, we were at Lake State, Man, we lived off

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Speaker 1: the land. Seriously, me and my roommates. We ate four

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Speaker 2: Air and white fish.

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Speaker 4: We ate four deer.

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Speaker 1: Between October one archery opener and Christmas break and hound.

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Speaker 2: You get all that hunt and fishing done if you

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Speaker 1: Just didn't take the school too seriously.

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Speaker 4: That's why I transferred out.

443
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Speaker 8: Man.

444
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Speaker 4: That's an old trick.

445
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Speaker 1: People don't realize if you live in a state. If

446
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Speaker 1: you live in a state like Michigan has this deal

447
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: where if you bounce round, like I went to three colleges, right,

448
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: if you bounce around, the other colleges will accept your

449
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: credit hours, but they don't care about the GPA. So

450
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Speaker 1: if you're in Michigan, this is a hot tip for

451
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Speaker 1: michigan Anders. If you're in Michigan. Never start where you're

452
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Speaker 1: gonna finish and your finishing school. How many credit hours

453
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Speaker 1: is like a college degree?

454
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Speaker 2: I think it's like no. I think it might be

455
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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty.

456
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Speaker 1: Say, they might dictate to you that they want you

457
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Speaker 1: to wrap her up like they want you to get

458
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Speaker 1: the final eighty or whatever.

459
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Speaker 4: It is like a school. Like, let's say you wind

460
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Speaker 4: up at MSU.

461
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Speaker 2: Spencer's right, it's because it'd be eight times fifteen, roughly

462
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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty.

463
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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's say you're going to land at where

464
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Speaker 1: where I landed at. I landed at Grand Valley State

465
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Speaker 1: University just to close her out, Okay, Grand Valley State

466
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Speaker 1: is going to dictate to you that they're like to

467
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Speaker 1: get a degrief. Must you have to get your final

468
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Speaker 1: X number of hours from I think I actually had

469
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Speaker 1: to do more credit hours and was normal. I had

470
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Speaker 1: to do like an extra few because I needed to

471
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Speaker 1: hit their minimum requirement. You go to other schools, easy ones, and.

472
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Speaker 2: When's where you can fish and hunt there hunt fishing.

473
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Speaker 1: All you got to do is pass. Okay, serious, this

474
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Speaker 1: is I'm not joking, this is true. All you have

475
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Speaker 1: to do is.

476
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Speaker 5: Pass, so your goal is definitely not to learn anything.

477
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: No, all you have to do is pass.

478
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: You go to where you want to go.

479
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Speaker 1: Then you got to do good yep, and you get

480
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Speaker 1: you leave with a fake gpa, You get a you

481
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Speaker 1: graduate with a gpa that is not reflective of your

482
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Speaker 1: college experience. It's only reflective of where you wrapped her up.

483
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Speaker 1: So I wrapped her up at GVSU and I walked

484
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Speaker 1: out of there was like a three six something.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, go mess around when you're taking all that jen

486
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Speaker 2: ed shit. You're your freshman sophomore year.

487
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Speaker 1: So I did two years of night classes at my

488
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Speaker 1: local commut unity college. My first two years of college

489
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Speaker 1: night classes, I didn't go down until six at night.

490
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Speaker 2: Were you still living back in twin.

491
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Speaker 1: I was trappeh trapped all day, hunted all day, whatever

492
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Speaker 1: else had going on. Chop Firewood went to school at night,

493
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Speaker 1: walked out of there, and I was in the same position.

494
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: Is all these jokers that were working hard and in

495
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Speaker 1: the end had a good GPA and got into good

496
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Speaker 1: graduate program.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah I would have.

498
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Speaker 5: I would have.

499
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Speaker 6: I would have taken you for a little bit higher

500
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Speaker 6: than a three six kind of guy.

501
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Speaker 2: Three six is pretty much.

502
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Speaker 5: That's pretty high.

503
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Speaker 1: That's high man is great.

504
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Speaker 10: I wasn't sure when that was going to turn into

505
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 10: a hot tip. But it's a hot tip, No it is. Yeah,

506
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 10: there's so MU should do a pamphlet. But you've got

507
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 10: to remember how old I am. Like they might have changed,

508
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 10: they might have figured this out and caught up to people.

509
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 10: Did you use a common practice among my social circle?

510
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 10: Did you brew your own beer in college too?

511
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: But my my brother's brewed beer in high school?

512
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Speaker 10: Did that work out for them?

513
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: The problem they would have is it would get a

514
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: quarter inch of white stuff on the bottom and it

515
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: didn't matter. You'd have to open it so gradually and

516
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: gently to not disturb the yeast, you know, like most

517
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: parents like, you can't drink in high school for whatever reason,

518
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: Like we weren't supposed to drink, but for every reason.

519
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: If they like, they wouldn't make this beard. It was

520
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Speaker 1: just my parents were fine with it. I thought it

521
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Speaker 1: was interesting.

522
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 10: I had buddies who got like beer making. Kids had

523
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Speaker 10: garage sales and they had dollar signs in their eyes,

524
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 10: like thinking of how far ahead we're gonna come. Yeah,

525
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 10: they never never worked out. They never made a big man.

526
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Speaker 1: No, God, I had some other thing I was gonna

527
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Speaker 1: add in here, something about not being oh krint, I

528
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: know we had a whole plan, but you got a

529
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Speaker 1: talking point.

530
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Speaker 4: I got to add one thing about fish priests.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, then I'm done.

532
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Speaker 9: This is exciting, though I can't wait fish priests.

533
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: When I wasn't allowed to get bad grades in high school,

534
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: like I had to get an A or B. If

535
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: I got a's or b's, nothing bad happened to me.

536
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: And in wood shop I got a bad grade because

537
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: we had to do a lathe project.

538
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: It seems unlike you woodshop.

539
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Well, because for the lathe project, I made a large

540
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: wooden mallet.

541
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Speaker 6: It's the it spins wood, then you use the tools,

542
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 6: and so we had to laminate.

543
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: We were supposed to laminate a stack of wood together

544
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: and then lathe it into something cool. And I lathed

545
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: mine into like a very coarse cylinder, drilled a hole

546
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: in it and put a handle in it, so that

547
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: I had a big, heavy wooden mallet. That I was

548
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: saying it was like a fish priest. Got bad grade

549
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: and my dad took me down to school to have

550
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: a like arranged a little conference. I got a C minus.

551
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 9: But that why would you get a bad grade for that.

552
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 9: That's that doesn't seem.

553
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: People were making really cool stuff. They're making lamp stands,

554
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: and I made a blocker. I made an eight inch cylinder,

555
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: and it was like, well, I made a Most guys

556
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: were making cool stuff, or they were making their parents

557
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: lamp stands.

558
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 9: Okay.

559
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: I I thought I've been drilling them out and warning them.

560
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I use a handle.

561
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 9: I thought that the teacher was being unfair and kind

562
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 9: of judging you, not on your level of relative level

563
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 9: of skill, but on the fact that you were making

564
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Speaker 9: something used to you know, he.

565
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Thought I was being a smart ass, and he thought

566
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: I was being a slacker, both of which are true.

567
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

568
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: We just wanted to go back to sniff and wood glue.

569
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

570
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: Anyhow, Well, you got to tell us, what would your

571
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: old man do?

572
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Oh? He was pissed and took me down, pissed at

573
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: you were pissed at the pissed at me. I got

574
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: you took me down and humiliated me in front of

575
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Speaker 1: the teacher, and then I had to improve my grade.

576
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: Would you remember what I made? After that? He was

577
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: he was not happy, and my dad was big woodwork

578
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: or so kind of stunn you know. Yeah, it'd be

579
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: like one of my kids got a bad grade and hunting.

580
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Should I skip this thing about the Edmond Fitzgerald, I'll

581
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: put it.

582
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: I'll say this.

583
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: You know when David Grant was on and he said

584
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: all those things that have a maritime back, that was

585
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: so interesting, under the weather, under the ah, three sheets

586
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: to the wind.

587
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 9: It's like one more good one that we say all

588
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 9: the time. We have no idea what.

589
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 12: I forgot.

590
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to get Dan pressed.

591
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: Okay, whole pilum.

592
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's underwriter, an insurance underwriter.

593
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 10: I just I just googled marry time or nautical phrases.

594
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 10: Pipe down one of them, batting down the hatches, dry,

595
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 10: scuttle butt, threw thick and thin, smooth sailing, seems obvious. Yeah,

596
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 10: down the hatch.

597
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, you're saying a lot of them, aren't that interesting?

598
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 10: It was, you know, it was interesting to listen to

599
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 10: you struggle to come up with that.

600
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: You felt that was more interesting.

601
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: Hear me, hear me, do not say he broke. I know,

602
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: I was having a great moment. I was having a

603
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: great hosting moment, and the Spencer came in and ruined it.

604
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Underwriting is a maritime insurance thing. Like in the old

605
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: days they would, uh, it's kind of interesting. So he

606
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: so the connection Edvan Fitzgerald, and this is the last

607
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: note on the Edmond fits the boat was that the

608
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: boat was actually owned by an insurance company. It was

609
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: owned by Northwestern Mutual Insurance Company out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

610
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: The company had invested a lot of their earnings in

611
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: iron ore and mineral mining. The Edmund Fitzgerald was just

612
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: the CEO of Northwestern Mutual when they built the ship.

613
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: Had no idea that that is not cool. That's like

614
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: in the old days. In the old days, you would

615
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: it was okay for you to name birds and animals

616
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: after yourself. That's considered not cool anymore. What's his name,

617
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: barn No.

618
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: Stellar Stellar. He's got all kind parents.

619
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Speaker 1: Stellar Stellar's like I'll take that Ja, I'll take that

620
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: sea lion or whatever. Lewis everything you saw, yeah, Lewis.

621
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: And now it's it's uncool. You don't name stuff after

622
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: yourself anymore. There's a movement now to give things names

623
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: from indigenous people's indigenous language.

624
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 10: It also seems fashionable and name things after other people though,

625
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 10: Like Edinburgh has a lot of things named after him

626
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 10: that he didn't discover.

627
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's I think that's that's okay.

628
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: Uh, because you're paying you're like paying homage, You're paying

629
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: amage homage. This guy, he's like, I got a great

630
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: name for the boat.

631
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Speaker 6: He helped bring baseball back to Milwaukee, is what I'm

632
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 6: reading too.

633
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 8: In your head?

634
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 10: Who was Edmund Fitzgerald before you learned this? Never thought

635
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 10: about it like a war captain.

636
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: That never was to me. Uh. They used to be

637
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: able to publicly, you would publicly sell insurance on cargoes

638
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: and vessels. An underwriter was just someone that would write there,

639
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: literally write their name under the post looking for insurers.

640
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 9: That is pretty interesting.

641
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 10: Uh Oh remember how I was saying, Well, I feel

642
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 10: like if this happened today, it'd be a conspiracy theory.

643
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: No, certainly, like.

644
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 10: An insurance company guy named it after himself to get

645
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 10: famous when it sank.

646
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Couldn't happen. You know. One of my favorite movies, I

647
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: don't like the book, but I like the movie that

648
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often is Inherent Vice. And there's a

649
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: prominent character and Inherent Vice, played by Benicio del Toro

650
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: is a maritime lawyer and inherent vice, so it's a

651
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: Thomas Pinchon novel. Inherent Vice in maritime insurance is all

652
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: the things that one can't control, like shipping on the seas,

653
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: there's inherent vice. Things rot, things get wet. Whatever. It's like,

654
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: you know when you see like act of God stuff.

655
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: Inherent vice is just stuff's gonna happen to the cargo.

656
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: Two pieces that came out from so does.

657
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Speaker 1: We've had a podcast guest on I believe maybe a

658
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: couple times at our Neett who used to be the

659
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: chief scientist that Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership and he left.

660
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 4: He rsp on great terms.

661
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Because he got to go and be the CEO of

662
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: the Wildlife Society. And the Wildlife Society funds and orchestrates.

663
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: They might be screwing this up. Someone looked that up.

664
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Speaker 1: What do they call their mission statement? They fund an

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Speaker 1: orchestrate wildlife research.

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Speaker 9: Spencer's got it.

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Speaker 7: Best, Typer.

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Speaker 1: What is the Wildlife Society's mission statement?

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Speaker 10: Our mission is to inspire, empower and enable wildlife professionals.

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Speaker 10: Starts with giving you the resources to succeed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So they published a lot of

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Speaker 1: new wildlife research coming out and there's two that ed

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Speaker 1: passed aloandis recently one. I had caught one of this,

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Speaker 1: but this this is like a month old now or so.

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Speaker 1: Florida just became the latest state to have for them

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Speaker 1: to have found c w D in Florida.

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Speaker 3: M hm.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know the odds that you found the first

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Speaker 1: deer that shows you know, you're right, it could have

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Speaker 1: been could have been there for years. They just found it,

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Speaker 1: you know, with enough testing they found a deer with

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Speaker 1: c w D. So Florida is now the that's a

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Speaker 1: good question for you. Spencer, is now the blank state

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Speaker 1: to have c w D.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's got to be high thirties or say forty.

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Speaker 1: That would be a good tributa question. Why don't you

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Speaker 1: find the answer to that, Spencer?

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Speaker 9: And it was because a roadway accident of vehicular Is

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Speaker 9: that where the.

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Speaker 1: Deer came from?

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Speaker 4: Testing roadkill?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Yes, huh, because hunters probably don't really get him tested

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Speaker 6: too much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there's a massive amounts of there's

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Speaker 1: no way that I bet you anything.

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Speaker 4: There's more hunter tested.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this for a fact, but I bet

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Speaker 1: you there's more hunter tested deer than roadkill test the

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Speaker 1: deer in Florida. Oh, Florida. I don't know. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying Florida in a super populated state like that.

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Speaker 9: This was the white tailed deer had been struck by

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Speaker 9: a vehicle in Holmes County, and Florida Fish and Wildlife

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Speaker 9: Conservation Commission confirmed the presence of chronic wasting disease in

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Speaker 9: this wild deer that was killed on the highway.

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Speaker 10: This this says thirty one US states and four Canadian provinces.

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Speaker 10: That's as of June sixteen, twenty twenty three. From the USGS.

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Speaker 1: Alaska and Hawaii will obviously be the holdouts.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to. That guy on the book Toy said,

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Speaker 2: Utah hasn't had any yet is a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the current.

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Speaker 2: What's there?

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Speaker 8: This map shows Utah is full of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, with current regular under current guidelines and the

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Speaker 1: way they're handling it right now, in the way that

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Speaker 1: the USDA is looking at deer breeders and stuff. It's

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Speaker 1: everybody will have it except for Hawaiian except for Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: In Alaska, and Alaska's.

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Speaker 1: Getting you know, they get muledier coming into Alaska now

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Speaker 1: and then and it's shoot on site for meal to Alaska. Uh.

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Speaker 4: Another one.

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Speaker 1: And we've talked about this a bunch but and I

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Speaker 1: haven't really looked into this, but sometimes you'll live in

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Speaker 1: a state and there might not be any wild pigs

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Speaker 1: in your state, or there might be a few wild

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Speaker 1: pigs in your state, and they will all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden say it's illegal to hunt wild pigs. And you'd

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Speaker 1: say to yourself, well, that seems stupid. If we're trying

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Speaker 1: to get rid of wild pigs, why would it be

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Speaker 1: illegal to kill wild pigs. What's motivating that legislation is

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Speaker 1: they realize that the like what is caught not not CWD?

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Speaker 1: Here talk about another thing that spreads Hunters spread wild Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pig enthusiasts, enthusiasts.

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Speaker 6: It's weird when you go down to some of those places,

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Speaker 6: you know, down in like Texas and in Florida, because

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Speaker 6: they'd be people would be like, I kind of you know,

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Speaker 6: I want you to get all the pigs off my property.

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Speaker 6: But then they're also like they like like having them around. Oh,

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Speaker 6: you know, there's like this weird vibe there.

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Speaker 1: It's a hobby of mine. Is I like to ask

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Speaker 1: landowners who complain about pigs if they could too. There's

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Speaker 1: two questions. I'm like, if you could make it wave

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Speaker 1: a magic wand and they just would be gone. I've

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Speaker 1: never met someone that said yes there. I was like, wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not all of them, Yeah, because they know people like

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Speaker 1: to eat them. Yeah, people like to eat them. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing is, and you always bring this up

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Speaker 1: to people, is like Cal was telling a landowner Hawaii

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Speaker 1: this they're talking about complaining about the pigs, and Cal said,

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Speaker 1: I know how you can get rid of all these pigs.

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Speaker 1: Put up a big sign that says please hunt this

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Speaker 1: property for sure. And the person said, you know what

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Speaker 1: kind of people we'd get on this property if we

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Speaker 1: did that, to which Kel said, barbecuers. Uh tails, I

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Speaker 1: talking about the pigs.

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Speaker 4: Oh, so there's this.

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Speaker 1: There's this also this thing in a wildlife society article,

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Speaker 1: like a like a journal article that state that that

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Speaker 1: there's that this article is arguing that states that are

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Speaker 1: being strict around strict around not being able to move

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Speaker 1: wild hogs, not being able to hunt wild hogs, right

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Speaker 1: like very lined in the sand about wild hogs are

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Speaker 1: slowing the spread more than states that are facilitating the

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Speaker 1: hunting of wild hogs.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense that it's effective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and whenever look, you know Missouri. I remember being

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Speaker 1: in Missouri where they were like like I can't. I

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Speaker 1: was talking to a wild hog expert and he was like,

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Speaker 1: they were categorically that's how they're there. They're there from

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Speaker 1: people that go down south and they like hunting hogs,

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Speaker 1: and why not have them closer to home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We talked the today about when we uh when we

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Speaker 1: had that zeb zeb Hogan. We're talking about fish that

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Speaker 1: are tolerant. We spent a lot of time on fish

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Speaker 1: that can handle fresh an, salt water or not. And

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Speaker 1: we were talking about the spread of northern pike out

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Speaker 1: of the siouxsitting a drainage where they were introduced by

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Speaker 1: someone that likes to fish northerns and how from that

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Speaker 1: drainage are then bouncing to other drainages by just swimming

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Speaker 1: out into salt water and coming back going these fish

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Speaker 1: And they can see it when they take these fish

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Speaker 1: out of these other systems. They can look at the

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Speaker 1: stable isotopes and they can see where that fish was.

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Speaker 1: That fish has marine stable isotopes where that fish was

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Speaker 1: spending time in the ocean and then shot up a

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Speaker 1: different river system.

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Speaker 4: That's an they're spreading through the ocean.

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Speaker 5: Really, I wonder how long they can. I've got a

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Speaker 5: lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: Now his ask gets washed out or whatever, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: goes on a tour and he's like, I gotta get

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Speaker 1: out of here, I don't know, and find some stream

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Speaker 1: and shoots up it and then finds a boy or

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Speaker 1: girl to make love to.

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Speaker 2: Well the pit it's illegal to hunt him here, right, Pigs.

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Speaker 1: And mont the band hog hunt them Montana.

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Speaker 2: I think they might have, but I want to know,

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Speaker 2: Like I'd love to talk to someone from FWP to know,

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Speaker 2: like if they feel like it's a serious threat from Canada.

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Speaker 1: They branded it, what do they call him? Northern super

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Speaker 1: hard right right?

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Speaker 2: I want to know if it's like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, you know what?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 1: We covered that and I get all I spent all

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Speaker 1: this time, my kids all worked up about Canadian super

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Speaker 1: hawks Like it's I say some So listen, there's the

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Speaker 1: old kind of hog. Does the whole world over? Any

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Speaker 1: pig year eight, any piece of bacon you ever ate,

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Speaker 1: anyone you ever talked to hunting wild hogs in America.

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Speaker 2: Same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's sus scrafa. It's it's that's okay.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that can take down those Canadian superhogs

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Speaker 2: is a Canadian super wolf.

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Speaker 1: Yep. So it's suscraffa. Yeah, and he's all worked up

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Speaker 1: about Canadian super hogs. And I realized that on our

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Speaker 1: own website when we covered that group, that population of

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Speaker 1: hogs that are north of Montana, the best Canadian super hogs.

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Speaker 5: It's what a great name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Wisconsin super sou and Canadian superhogs.

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Speaker 4: But it's it's it can be.

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Speaker 1: They're demonstrating here that that those regulations which strike you

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Speaker 1: as being so counterintuitive, if you don't.

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Speaker 4: Want hogs, why would we not hunt.

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Speaker 1: Them, that it's actually effective in preventing the introduction of hogs.

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Speaker 6: I mean those outfitters and stuff down and axis, they

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Speaker 6: make some a serious living, you know, making sure they

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Speaker 6: have hogs on their properties.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's got it. They've got to be moved

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Speaker 6: around and trapped. And I bet you some of those

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Speaker 6: guys buy hogs. You know, if they're starting to get low.

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Speaker 6: It wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 4: Brandon Butler.

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Speaker 1: When we were hunting in Missouri for turks, he took

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Speaker 1: me out and showed me like sort of wildcat hog traps.

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Speaker 1: The dudes are just going out in the woods to

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Speaker 1: construct from catching their own hogs in areas that have

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Speaker 1: them so they could bring them to bring them to

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Speaker 1: places that don't.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Quick correction, A couple of corrections. So you know, we

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Speaker 1: always point out that doctor Randall is the only doctor

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Speaker 1: that works at this company.

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Speaker 2: That's who are we leaving out.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jordan Siller's like kind of quietly snuck in with

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Speaker 1: a PhD. Does have time to be getting a PhD.

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Speaker 1: I to get one of those. I need to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to get one. What's his pH d in?

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Speaker 9: It's in English? So, speaking of our Meat Eater website,

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Speaker 9: he I don't know if he was the person who

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Speaker 9: wrote that article on the super hogs.

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Speaker 2: What's shaking your head about?

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Speaker 13: Okay, because it's like, dud, Jordan, It's like, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: It's not philosophy, and I have a I have an

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Speaker 1: advanced I'll point out I have the.

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Speaker 4: Old you know, I just don't have a pH d.

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Speaker 1: So on our episode Glassing for sheds, which is quite

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Speaker 1: a while ago now when we had bed Ben Detamantian,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about can you say strewed.

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Speaker 9: And that was in the context of of a of

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Speaker 9: antlers and uh shed antler piles being found found by

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Speaker 9: like seas not found seized by and then cut up

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Speaker 9: like dog treats and thrown across or scattered across.

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Speaker 1: Hear me out, so as Crena said, so a guy

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Speaker 1: got bosted for hunting sheds ahead of time before an

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Speaker 1: area was and he'd even cut some up. So down

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Speaker 1: in Wyoming, they just go back out and they scatter

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Speaker 1: him about so people can rEFInd.

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Speaker 4: Him the cut up ones, even the cut up.

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Speaker 11: You're finding, which I was pointing out.

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Speaker 1: It was a little bit like like Easter egg hunt, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, like someone just was touching that egg earlier today,

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Speaker 1: so uh do you know.

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Speaker 4: Right they're chili me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, can't got your tongue.

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Speaker 4: You guys are pull that mic up close.

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Speaker 8: You guys are just talking having grand all the time.

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Speaker 1: So I said that they went and strewed him about

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Speaker 1: the landscape, and I thought that can't be a word

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Speaker 1: and our and this is coming from an actual pH

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Speaker 1: D in English, in English of all things.

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00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: So he would your PhD be in I don't think

886
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: you can get.

887
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 10: A PhD in what I studied, Okay, but if you

888
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 10: were going to get a PhD, definitely not would work.

889
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: Oh if I was going to go now, I would

890
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: pursue a pH d in American history?

891
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 9: Or would you go to law school?

892
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: Well, no, that's a whole different deal.

893
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 9: They're not, you know, the whole ticket in raffle.

894
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: To study sleep, steaks, and an expert on that.

895
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to be.

896
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: A world expert, world expert on sweep stakes and raffle man.

897
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: It comes from the Old English Struian ustre Oian, meaning

898
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: to scatter. I think the reason it sounds weird is

899
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: because it seems to be used most commonly as the

900
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: past participle strewn. That's right. Past participles are words formed

901
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: from verbs that can be used as an adjective to

902
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: form perfect verb.

903
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: Tenses, as in, they were strewn across the.

904
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Land and to form the passive voice, which your English

905
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: teachers will be out of you eventually. So people would

906
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: usually use the passive voice. The sheds were strewn, were

907
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: strewn on the landscape, as opposed to the active wildlife

908
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: officials strewed the shed on the landscape.

909
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: Can you say it? Look at those guys strewing antlers?

910
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right.

911
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 4: We recently had an episode called The Guru Comes Up

912
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: for Air? Is that crarect?

913
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh right there? Episode four or fifty two The Guru

914
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: Comes Up for Air, in which we interviewed a formal apostle,

915
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: a former apostle of the Health Guru, wim Hoff, who

916
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: has strayed from the orthodoxy, to question some of his

917
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: judgment and character. In this we got to talk about

918
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: shallow water blackouts and yeah, I don't think he wasn't

919
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: familiar with shadow water blackout.

920
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 9: I think perhaps he's familiar. Yeah, go ahead, Brody.

921
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: Well, it felt like you were talking about one thing

922
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: and he was talking because he said he mentioned shallow

923
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: water blackout. But it was like, I felt like, you

924
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: guys are talking about two different things.

925
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 9: And I feel like we weren't. We weren't totally clear

926
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 9: as to why I was called.

927
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I wasn't there.

928
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: I was like, my understanding, I told him, my understanding

929
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: is that maybe I'm wrong. My understanding is that people

930
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: tend to black out by the surface and that's where

931
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: why shallow water blackout? But I didn't really know, so

932
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people wrote in. Greg Fonce wrote in

933
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: about this. It's called shallow water blackout, but I'm using

934
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: this one because it's so it's so perfect the connection

935
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: to watch this. Remember how we were talking about sus

936
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: Saint Marie earlier. I do well, A Navy seal wrote

937
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: in to offer a correction, points out, I was born

938
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: and raised in Sus Saint Marie, Michigan, Wow, and grew

939
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: up two blocks from Lake State University, active duty seal.

940
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: He teaches UH seal medics dive medicine. Okay, so he

941
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: teaches future seal medics dive medicine, which is why he

942
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: wants to put so highly credentialed. Here's why free divers

943
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: and others dive. Here's why when they black out, they

944
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: blackout at the surface. This will tickle your fancy. I

945
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: could do the short and palatable, or I could do

946
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: long and boring. He gives the option, Let's go with

947
00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: long and boring. He starts out by saying the pathophysiology

948
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: is long and drawn out. Okay, follow me. The pressure

949
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: at depth pushes blood from the thoracic cavity to the

950
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: peripheral space like the brain, because the lungs aren't taking

951
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: up much volume.

952
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 4: Smaller lungs use less blood.

953
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: So you have air and under pressure, right that it

954
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: shrinks your lungs squeeze in it.

955
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 6: That's why like trachia squeezes, lung squeezes like an issue

956
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 6: people can get when they're diving at depth.

957
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll point out here he doesn't have this

958
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: in there. But I'll point out you can't compress You

959
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: can pressurize water, but you can't compress water. Like no

960
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: matter how much pressure you put on water, you don't

961
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: make it smaller, right, you know it doesn't. It's still

962
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: volume wise, it still takes up the same volume air

963
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: under pressure, you can pressurize air, it takes up less volume.

964
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: So when you dive down, and they talk about atmospheres,

965
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: so it's like thirty feet, sixty feet, ninety feet correlates

966
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: to these these different atmospheres at which pressure becomes noticeably different.

967
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: So when you go down, your lungs shrink because you're

968
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: full of air. You went down on a full breath hold.

969
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: Like I mentioned when I was teaching my boy how

970
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 1: to hold his breath I'll say, imagine filling your ball

971
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: sack with air. You're feeling your breathe so deep, you're

972
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: feeling your testicles there.

973
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 10: Could he imagine that he laughed okay, and.

974
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 9: Then the air came out, and then he lost all

975
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 9: his air.

976
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: You're breathing that deep, but you go down and all

977
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's pushing less.

978
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: So he's saying that when this happens, blood.

979
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: Is moving out of there all right, and the increase

980
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: in blood being pushed to the brain, So more blood

981
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: is shoved to your brain, which compensates for the lower

982
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: arterial oxen saturation that occurs when your body metabolizes the

983
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: oxygen deering your breath hold. So you're got a big

984
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: bunch of air and all that blood goes in and

985
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: the blood's going somewhere, so you're sending more oxygenated blood

986
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: goes to your brain, right, which helps compensate for the

987
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: fact that you're not breathing now now the ascent you're ascending.

988
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: When you ascend, if you were so borderlined, that the

989
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: only thing keeping your oxygen saturation in an acceptable range

990
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: for consciousness generally twenty five to twenty mmhg's whatever the hell.

991
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 4: That means, all of.

992
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: A sudden, your lungs, as you knew the surface, your

993
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: lungs fully expand.

994
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 6: And it pulls that blood out from your your noggin.

995
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: That extra blood that was hanging out up there.

996
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: Your lungs go because now, like the whole thing with

997
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: the Benz, right now, your lungs are well, the bends different.

998
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: That's breathing on a tank, not the Benz. Your lungs

999
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: are going back to normal. His noise they're making, right,

1000
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: Did you get that fill?

1001
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.

1002
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 8: Thanks.

1003
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: Uh sucks the blood out of your head and then

1004
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: you pass out, and you pass out. He goes on

1005
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: to say his name is Smooch who wrote in He

1006
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: goes on to say snobs would call this ascent blackout,

1007
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: but not me, no way.

1008
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 9: And m M HG HG is mercury on the periodic table,

1009
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 9: and mm is millimeter and a millimeter of mercury is

1010
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 9: a menometric unit of pressure.

1011
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: Got it? That clarifies things for me.

1012
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 6: It's a it's a weird it's a weird thing that

1013
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 6: shallow water blackout because you can just be feeling pretty

1014
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 6: good and fine and then the next thing you know,

1015
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 6: someone's unconscious.

1016
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet. Well yeah, but I mean

1017
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: I know so many people that have and they don't.

1018
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: They don't they one minute, the way they describe it,

1019
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: one minut they're swimming up toward the surface and the

1020
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: next minute someone's blown across their face at the surface

1021
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out what the hell happen.

1022
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: No panic, so feasibly it would be a painless way

1023
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: to die.

1024
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 8: Did you say that you did it or you were

1025
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 8: close to do it?

1026
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: I've never shallow water, I've never done it.

1027
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 9: No.

1028
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: There's a thing called the Samba two that that free

1029
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: divers talk about.

1030
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: And that's break.

1031
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you break the surface and then you like not

1032
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: beneath surface. You break the surface and you get woozy

1033
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: and tippy at the surface. They'll say you sambaed, meaning

1034
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: you kind of like had a little bit of a

1035
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: you kind of passed out a little teeny bit once

1036
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: you broke surface. But in shallow water black ou Let's

1037
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: say you black out three feet shot of the surface

1038
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: and stop kicking and you're underwater. Yeah, so you have

1039
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: a mamillion you have that mi million dive reflex, so

1040
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: you don't breathe, right, away, you sink and don't do anything,

1041
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: and eventually whatever amount of energy it requires to have

1042
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: the MA million dive reflex activated, that subsides and then

1043
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: you take your death breath.

1044
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 9: But then you're taking your death breath of water, basically.

1045
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 14: Don't They usually say that's like typically about two minutes

1046
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 14: before that happens.

1047
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, I never heard.

1048
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 14: I've heard, I've heard, and I'll probably get corrected. But yeah,

1049
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 14: like when you pass out, you have ballpark about two

1050
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 14: minutes before you take that, oh, death breath. I don't know,

1051
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 14: someone can maybe look that up and see. But that's

1052
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 14: what I was always to know.

1053
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: That, so I would. I mean, that's not surprising to me.

1054
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: It's not thirty minutes.

1055
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah, But like they said, if somebody passes out

1056
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 14: in the water, you have about two minutes.

1057
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: Before like to find it its lights out. So yeah,

1058
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: and this is a big part of why, uh, you know,

1059
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: the serious spear fishermen that are being safe. We'll always

1060
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: practice one guy on surface, one guy down, one guy

1061
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: on surface, one guy down, and so the guy on

1062
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: surface is presumably paying attention to hey, he should.

1063
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 8: Have he shouldn't be floating.

1064
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: He should be up here and you go down to

1065
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: hunt him down.

1066
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do some diving this weekend.

1067
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: Are you. We're at.

1068
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 5: A lake in the ocean lake in Montana taking.

1069
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: A spear, nice.

1070
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: Chili. Can can you explain this? Can you explain that pistol?

1071
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna hang that in the new studio?

1072
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 8: Well do you want like the history of it or

1073
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 8: like the story how I got it?

1074
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 9: Both?

1075
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: Both? All right?

1076
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 8: So not a very interesting interesting story how we got it.

1077
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 14: My dad got it from a work call league back

1078
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 14: in the day that's had a I mean I think

1079
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 14: she had this and like an old fifty cow flint

1080
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 14: lock and gave the flint lock rifle to somebody else

1081
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 14: and then gave this to my dad and then it's

1082
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 14: just been hanging up in our house for the entirety

1083
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 14: of my life, and then passed it on down to

1084
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 14: me and my brother and then But so it's a

1085
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 14: it's a if you want to.

1086
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: Look at it, oh man, Yeah, damn, get it towards

1087
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: the camera.

1088
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 4: No trigger guard back then?

1089
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 8: Huh no, No, And I'd actually love you pulled that

1090
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 8: thing out of there? No you want to?

1091
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to break the back.

1092
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to break it to get in there.

1093
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 8: I don't think the case came with the gun, So.

1094
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 9: You can break it with your palth.

1095
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 8: We can busted up like a pick of that.

1096
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't need to do that. That's pretty sweet though. Yeah.

1097
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 14: So it's a it's a thirty two caliber rim fire.

1098
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 14: It's an old Civil War era pistol. They made them

1099
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 14: from six eighteen sixty one to eighteen seventy four. There's

1100
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 14: roughly about seventy seven thousand of them made a man

1101
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 14: roughly seventy seven thousand, and it feels like that.

1102
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: I would have guessed ten.

1103
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, No, they mass produced for sure.

1104
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 14: They also think that the first thirty five thousand in

1105
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 14: production had a very good chance of actually being in

1106
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 14: the Civil.

1107
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: War, so it would have been issued to soldiers.

1108
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 8: Correct, it was ago. I won't read this whole thing,

1109
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 8: but again, I think.

1110
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: ReBs, I think, I think again, my people weren't here yet,

1111
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: so I don't need to worry about that gun having

1112
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: felled one of my people.

1113
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, we were Midwest.

1114
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 14: It's not so they probably failed your people probably probably.

1115
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 8: Um.

1116
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, So they say that first thirty thirty five thousand

1117
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 14: probably were in the war, and then It goes on

1118
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 14: to say, so all the serial numbers are on it.

1119
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 14: This is on the hilt I think it's called the

1120
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 14: hilt of the handle, right on the bottom side of

1121
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 14: the pistol grip.

1122
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 4: Oh, that piece of metal that runs that the plate's going.

1123
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 14: To Yeah, I can't remember what it was, but it

1124
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 14: has a serial number, and this one starts with the

1125
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 14: forty four thousand, So it wasn't necessarily probably.

1126
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: In the war. Oh.

1127
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 14: But what's interesting is since they only made them to

1128
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 14: eighteen seventy four, that put if it was made then

1129
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 14: at the last year, it's still one hundred and fifty

1130
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 14: years old.

1131
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 7: Wow.

1132
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 5: Hilt says that the handle of any weapon or tool.

1133
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: So this this it's a revolver or with no trigger guard. No,

1134
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: a trigger that is not trigger like correct, But that's

1135
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: not a great description. How would you describe that trigger?

1136
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: It's and then a cylinder with no no notching in

1137
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: the cylinder. It's a smooth cylinder.

1138
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1139
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in a very rudimentary bead and groove to

1140
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: aim it.

1141
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 4: Have you guys had a red dot on that thing?

1142
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, we could do.

1143
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: You know, the barrel's rifled, you know, I don't.

1144
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 8: I really don't.

1145
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 14: I don't know a whole lot about like all the things,

1146
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 14: all the research that I did on this was pretty

1147
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 14: much the same stuff. It kind of goes into the

1148
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 14: history of it, not like the dynamics of the pistol itself.

1149
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 4: Is it like Brody's Priest?

1150
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: What do you call this persuader?

1151
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: Is it like Brody sam and Persuader where it's got

1152
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: notches in the handle?

1153
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 8: No, I don't.

1154
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1155
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 14: I I think I would rather take that into a

1156
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,479
Speaker 14: fight than this thing, though, that's for sure.

1157
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,479
Speaker 1: You don't know anybody started taking that out and taking

1158
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: a crack on it.

1159
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 8: No, I can't say that I have.

1160
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 14: It's always been this was hanging up in our stairwell

1161
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 14: going downstairs, and it was there for I don't know

1162
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 14: eighteen years that I lived there, and my dad always

1163
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 14: that don't touch it.

1164
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: So no, and then.

1165
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 14: And then you brought it here, and then and then

1166
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 14: and then I grew up and I got out of

1167
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 14: the house and he's like, yeah, you want it. I'm like, sure,

1168
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 14: you got to take it to It's probably he's going

1169
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 14: to catch you now.

1170
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1171
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 4: He gives him a big old whooping.

1172
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: Right, persuader little pants down smacks a little butt right

1173
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: here for touching his pistol.

1174
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 7: Can I see it?

1175
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1176
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, you got to take it to someone to

1177
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: make sure there's not something you should be doing to

1178
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: like preserve it or what. You know what I mean.

1179
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's one hundred and fifty. I think

1180
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 8: it looks pretty good for a hundred.

1181
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 14: Sure it does, but you know, yeah, there's probably some

1182
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 14: better method to take care of that thing. And I

1183
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 14: would actually be really interested in someone that knows what

1184
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 14: they're doing with that particular.

1185
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: There's someone out there that knows everything about that gun,

1186
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: yeah you know what I mean, but like.

1187
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 4: Just like but you'll get some people writing in about

1188
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 4: it from here.

1189
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 14: Oh, I'm sure. And my biggest curiosity is that trigger,

1190
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 14: Like I want to know like how that works. And

1191
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 14: because I mean that it just looks weird.

1192
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah what there would be some kind of antique firearms

1193
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: enthusiasts out there. Oh maybe he's maybe there's a mirror

1194
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: expert who's also an anti he come and take care

1195
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: of it here.

1196
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 6: I think those triggers are like are relatively common because

1197
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 6: I feel like I've seen them at antique stores. I'm

1198
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 6: like little little pistols and twenty two years.

1199
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: It just like hangs you take a stab at it.

1200
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: There's a little hang down, a little tear drop shape

1201
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: hanged down in the trigger rest, and the trigger.

1202
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 4: Is like a little.

1203
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: Never mind, great, great crack.

1204
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 9: A little button.

1205
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: But just think about it.

1206
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 14: I think, I think when you you know cock that

1207
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 14: like what I can picture is when you cock, the

1208
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 14: handle goes yeah, and then it becomes whatever active and

1209
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 14: then you pull it back.

1210
01:02:58,600 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 8: And I don't think.

1211
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: I know how to explain it. It's like a savage

1212
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: ACU trigger. It's like a Savage ACU trigger if the

1213
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: it's only the ACU part of the ACUT. It's the

1214
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: Savage ACU trigger if this If the trigger trigger was

1215
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: solid and the safety blade that moves inside an ACU

1216
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: trigger was the trigger, it was a phenomenal.

1217
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1218
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now I explain savage.

1219
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 4: Got our expert right here.

1220
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 9: Everyone google it.

1221
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 5: Hmmm.

1222
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's got to be a single action, right, cock

1223
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: and fire.

1224
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty sweet. I like that thing.

1225
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, no, it's it's great. Yeah, if anyone has more

1226
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 14: information about it.

1227
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 2: They still making thirty two rimp fire shells.

1228
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 8: You know, I can't say that they are.

1229
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that they are.

1230
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: Here's like, oh maybe the guys that are making our

1231
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: punt gun ammo when they finish that w able to

1232
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: do this.

1233
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 8: We still got to hang that up and we got

1234
01:03:59,640 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 8: to get the.

1235
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: So, bro, you couldn't find you weren't able to find

1236
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: the email the guy sent in.

1237
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 4: We recently had a guy right in.

1238
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: Well, I found the email. I just didn't find anything

1239
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: about an age. It was the size of the skull that.

1240
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: He Oh, and that's what was certified by the state.

1241
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had it measured twenty three inches, which is

1242
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: out of what state is at Minnesota. No kid, but

1243
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: that's also where the oldest black bear was from too.

1244
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: So a guy wrote in and he found a twenty

1245
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: three inch found it dead, died on his land. Found

1246
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: a twenty three inch bear skull.

1247
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think he might have found the bear.

1248
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh so like so just for context here all time

1249
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: Boom and Crockett is twenty one Yeah, enormous blackbirds.

1250
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bear died on his land and there was

1251
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: some back and forth about whether he could claim it

1252
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: or it was the States, and it ended up in

1253
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: a lawsuit.

1254
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of something different. Give me me, there's something different, Bears.

1255
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: There's another guy that just had this old ass.

1256
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: I did not see that one. Sorry, no, no, no,

1257
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about that campfire one. Sorry Phil.

1258
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: Oh you're good. If anyone wants to fill the space

1259
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 3: with some interesting bandits.

1260
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 10: If if the world record Boon and Crocket black Bear's

1261
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 10: skull measured twenty three and ten sixteenths, yeah, so this.

1262
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: Is twenty three.

1263
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, it's gigantic, enormous anyway, like, well, this

1264
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: will probably all get cut. But this guy ended up

1265
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: in a lawsuit with the state over possession of that

1266
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 2: skull and got it. Which is weird because you know,

1267
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: in a lot of places you just watch around a

1268
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: different stories pick up dead heads.

1269
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 10: And that that world record was also picked up in YouTube.

1270
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: Just hold offer because we're not recording right now.

1271
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: Just a reminder that now we're doing a live editing

1272
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 3: with the video. It's uh kind of a pain to

1273
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 3: cut things out. I'll make it work. I'll make it work,

1274
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: just only if we can just sorry to avoid it

1275
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: from here.

1276
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: On out back to the bear and he can be

1277
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: testy like that back there because he doesn't have to.

1278
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: Look at it.

1279
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: It's like it's like getting testy with a customer service

1280
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: wrap over the phone, you'd say something you never say

1281
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: in person.

1282
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you, but I feel like

1283
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 2: you're a little hard on Phil.

1284
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish she was here looking me in the eye.

1285
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: That's what the morphil.

1286
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want more Phil, not less Phil.

1287
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: Well, we can talk about the oldest bear?

1288
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 4: No, I do want to hear?

1289
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so so, but either way, there's some dude

1290
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: recently wrote in and I lost it, but he wrote

1291
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: in and he found this this bear and it looked

1292
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: like you had taken an angle grinder and removed its teeth.

1293
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: And he got some certification back and this bear was

1294
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the spar was in the thirties and

1295
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: then whatever the hell state he was in, it was

1296
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: the oldest bear found in the state.

1297
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 4: But I can't find his thing. Yeah, but you found that.

1298
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the biggest black bear on record?

1299
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 10: Twenty three and ten sixteens. It came from Utah and

1300
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 10: it was picked up.

1301
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: And if people aren't familiar that measurement, all it is

1302
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: is length the skull and width the skull added together.

1303
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: Isn't it weird? How the biggest of most stuff is

1304
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: picked up mm hmm, like so often the biggest specimens

1305
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: picked up. So the biggest big horn sheep pick up,

1306
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: the biggest white tail picked up, the biggest black bear

1307
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: picked up this. So this was twenty three inches. And

1308
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 1: then the oldest bear on record was thirty nine years

1309
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: old out of Minnesota. Yep, yep.

1310
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: It's not killed by a hunter, died natural causes.

1311
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: M And then so the dude that found it got

1312
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: in a little custody battle. And who wound up with

1313
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: the skull? He did? He did? Okay, but that brings

1314
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: us a round to how Chester has an old ass bear.

1315
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. I shot this bear with a recurve.

1316
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 8: Wild back home.

1317
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 6: I made, made the bow, and this is a local

1318
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 6: bear and it was a sow. But when I brought

1319
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 6: it in to f w P, well, no.

1320
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: Tell what happened before he brought it in.

1321
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 7: Tell us about the hunt.

1322
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 6: Okay, it's a it's an interesting hunt. So it was

1323
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 6: a snap jiggen in a meadow anyways, No, I uh.

1324
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 6: In the springtime in Montana, a lot of the time

1325
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 6: you can find bears in green metals, you know, up

1326
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 6: in the mountains. They're coming down out of the snow

1327
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 6: and chowing on wild flowers and grass, and that's exactly

1328
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 6: what I was doing. I was glassing over these green

1329
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 6: meadows and this bear came out, and I had been

1330
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 6: glassing up another bear, and this one looked substantially bigger.

1331
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 6: And I got to the edge of this field. The

1332
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 6: wind was absolutely perfect, but it almost looked like a

1333
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 6: manecured field, like some landscaping company came in there and

1334
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 6: made it look all pretty. There was there was one

1335
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 6: juniper in the middle of it. So I got to

1336
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 6: the edge of this field and the wind was right,

1337
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 6: and I took my shoes off, and I was just like,

1338
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 6: I'm going to see how close I can get to

1339
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 6: this thing. Took my shoes off so I could try

1340
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 6: and be.

1341
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: With Yeah, I think your feet were itchy or an itchy.

1342
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 6: No, but it was facing away, and like I said,

1343
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 6: the wind was right, and I just kept creeping towards it,

1344
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 6: real slow, not crawling or anything.

1345
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 7: Using the tree between you and the bear.

1346
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 6: Nope, just staying on its hind end. And luckily it

1347
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 6: just stayed facing away from me. And I probably got

1348
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 6: like sixty seventy yards and that juniper was I was

1349
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 6: getting close to that juniper, and the bear was just

1350
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 6: on the other side of it, and I was like,

1351
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 6: as soon as it gets on the other side of

1352
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 6: this juniper, I'm gonna just hustle my butt up and

1353
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 6: be right there. So shake hands, shake hands with it.

1354
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 6: It gets on the other side of that juniper, that's

1355
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 6: exactly what I do. And it steps out broadside. It's

1356
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 6: you know, probably fifteen to eighteen yards, I don't know,

1357
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 6: somewhere in there. And I shoot it, and I think

1358
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 6: it's just a beautiful, perfect shot. And if any of

1359
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 6: you guys have hundred bears before, they got a lot

1360
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 6: of fur, a lot of hair, and it can kind

1361
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 6: of be deceiving because you're shooting at a black blob,

1362
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 6: you know. So I think it's just a perfect shot,

1363
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 6: and you know, my heart's going and it takes off

1364
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 6: down into the woods and I start blood trailing and

1365
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 6: there's no blood to be found whatsoever. And I look

1366
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,480
Speaker 6: and look and look, and I'm just getting super discouraged.

1367
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 6: So I start doing what every hunter would do. They

1368
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 6: grid search it, you know, they kind of get on

1369
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 6: onyx and start making a track. And I was gridding

1370
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 6: this hill signed and I was a.

1371
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: Lot of seconds. Yeah, we should just put this in

1372
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: the fucking Discoveries thing.

1373
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't know the rest of the story,

1374
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: but if you haven't figured that out, Yeah, we shouldn't

1375
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: talk about this a little interstitial never mind, you got

1376
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 2: to go in the book. Sorry, Phil, show us your

1377
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: face to be too good of a it's like too

1378
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: good of a little Yeah, if it was, we need

1379
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: it in campfire for sure.

1380
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: No, it's anyways.

1381
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 3: Uh, you can't tell I'm doing fine? Is it a

1382
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 3: learning process for everyone? I'll take it.

1383
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 4: Phil is back there?

1384
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 10: Show us your face again, Phil, What does it look

1385
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 10: like right now?

1386
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 4: You know what, Phil?

1387
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 10: Because they don't know what happened except you said teaser.

1388
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: Okay? Can you is it easy for you to go

1389
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: back in and bleep stuff out or easier just to

1390
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: edit the whole thing out bleeping?

1391
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: Probably?

1392
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay? Can you just go back and bleep all the

1393
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,879
Speaker 1: thing that would make it this is actually an ad

1394
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: for can't fire stories? Okay?

1395
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 4: Or just cut all the audio.

1396
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 3: Lemons and the lemonade sort of thing. Here we go.

1397
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 5: Can you just try It'll just sound like I'm swearing

1398
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 5: the whole time.

1399
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 4: And then Phil blur for the whole video.

1400
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: I want you to blur that skull so people don't

1401
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: know that he got it.

1402
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 4: Okay, And second thought, let.

1403
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: Edited out's face.

1404
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: No, Phil, just bleep, just just act like he swore

1405
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: a lot, and bleep the parts out that you think

1406
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: would matter.

1407
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 4: And you don't need to do any of the work.

1408
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: Sounds sounds good.

1409
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 4: Here's the work Phil's trying to get out of. You

1410
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 4: can watch.

1411
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: You can watch, we're making we're starting to record our show.

1412
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: And and and Phil is back there in his little

1413
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: command and control center hitting what camera he wants on

1414
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: all the time. Isn't that right, Phil? Is that how

1415
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: you'd express it?

1416
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 3: Camera four? Yes, it is, Steve back to camera one.

1417
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's what he's That's what's going through his

1418
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: little head back there, and he doesn't want to have

1419
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: to have a big old headache of going back in

1420
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: and trying to undo all his camera work.

1421
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. So on that note, I'd like to apologize for

1422
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 3: all the weird camera cuts I just made during that

1423
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 3: segment when I thought it was going to be cut out,

1424
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:28,480
Speaker 3: So just to ignore.

1425
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: Those because we were going to be thinking, Man, that

1426
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: guy's not very good at that. That was a great story. Chester.

1427
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 1: I'm on the edge of my seat.

1428
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 4: Dude told me.

1429
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: Is that bleeping he bleeping the one in your office?

1430
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 10: Yes, yep, that's where am I going to be able

1431
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 10: to hear the real story?

1432
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: Now? I'm a little confumaters Campfire Stories Volume three. So

1433
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: volume one was close calls, Volume two was more close calls,

1434
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: and then we had to catch you little subtitle. Volume

1435
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: three is gonna be called crazy shit I found, but

1436
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: not what we called it? Do we know yet? Like

1437
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: the yeah, not really amazing, archae discovery whatever, finding plane crashes,

1438
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: finding missing bodies, finding archaeological sites, finding just whatever. Weird

1439
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: jump Sure, well what do you got right in front

1440
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: of you right now? Do you ad any talk about this?

1441
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not Yeah, I don't think. Do you feel

1442
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: like it's gonna make the Uh, it's not gonna make them.

1443
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: It's not gonna No, go ahead, I want to hear

1444
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: about it.

1445
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 10: Okay, this, this here is an extinct sea creature. I

1446
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 10: was hunting in Montana.

1447
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 4: Looks like I've found the little chunks before, but go on.

1448
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 10: I was hunting in Montana in twenty nineteen, and that

1449
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 10: morning I was sitting behind my spotter and I glassed

1450
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 10: this up. It was in like some bad Lands country,

1451
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 10: and I glassed it up from a long ways away,

1452
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 10: and I didn't know what it was.

1453
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 9: You gotta explain what you saw, though.

1454
01:14:58,800 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: I saw that exactly.

1455
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,879
Speaker 9: People people have home who are listening.

1456
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 10: People want to say that it's a it looks like

1457
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 10: a core sample that you took from the here.

1458
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: I thought when I came in and this was sitting here,

1459
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: I thought for some reason there was a core sample

1460
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: in here.

1461
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 10: It is not a core sample. It looks like you when.

1462
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 4: You look at it carefully, it's oval.

1463
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: You know how some people got a game.

1464
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 10: I Spencer's got a thing and yeah, and mushroom eye

1465
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 10: really bad. I'm a very bad shed hunter. I think

1466
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 10: I'm very good at mushrooms and rocks.

1467
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 5: Are you interested in sheds?

1468
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: Though terribly interested in shed are?

1469
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1470
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 5: I wish I was better because I didn't know if

1471
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 5: it was just like games.

1472
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: No, Seth Morris has the best shed I know.

1473
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, It's it's hard for me to not do one

1474
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 10: and do the other, because it seems like the best

1475
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 10: shed hunters are like scanning a large area, and when

1476
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 10: you're looking for mushrooms and rocks, you're often looking in

1477
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 10: like a very small area. Your cone, like your sonar,

1478
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 10: is tiny. The sheds you're you're like looking over a

1479
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 10: big area. I can't I can't come to that.

1480
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: I was walking through the woods with Seth. I had

1481
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: to duck my head to not poke a shed antler

1482
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: in my eye that his buck had gotten hung up

1483
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: in some grapevine and missed that. And it's like, look

1484
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: a shed hanging from a grapevine at high level in

1485
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: the trail you just walked down.

1486
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 10: This looks like a core sample. It's about as thick

1487
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 10: as a beer can. A little little smaller, a little smaller. Okay, white,

1488
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 10: it's good if you put like two white claws on

1489
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 10: top of each other, right, one and a half. Okay,

1490
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 10: it's very good describing stuff. It's in your hand right now,

1491
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 10: not mine. This is an extinct sea creature. It's called

1492
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 10: a back you light. Back you lights lived from about

1493
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 10: sixty six million years ago, which is when the dinosaurs

1494
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 10: also an extinct to one hundred million years ago. Sounds

1495
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 10: like a long time, but if you if you want

1496
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 10: some context, like dinosaurs showed up like two hundred million

1497
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 10: years ago and then disappeared sixty six million years ago,

1498
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 10: So dinosaurs had already been around for one hundred million

1499
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 10: years by the time these came around. It's a long

1500
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 10: time and they their closest relative would be things that

1501
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 10: are cephalopods like squid, octopus. Their whole order family genus,

1502
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 10: it's all extinct. None of these are are around anymore

1503
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 10: or even close to it. They grew up to about

1504
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 10: seven feet long. They had extreme sexual dimorphism. A male

1505
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 10: was only about a third of the size as a female,

1506
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 10: and they were They hung out in the middle of

1507
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 10: the water column. They ate plankton, and those little like

1508
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 10: fissures that you're seeing, those are called sutures on there,

1509
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 10: and that is how they would regulate the gas in

1510
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 10: their body. This to imagine imagine a squid. Take a

1511
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 10: squid right and then give it a long cone body

1512
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 10: like five or six feet long. Yep, that's what a

1513
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 10: vacuu light looked like. And then those little so that's

1514
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 10: the body right there.

1515
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 4: This is like the shell of it. Juter tentacles fossilized

1516
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 4: well well.

1517
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 10: Usually things that are soft don't fossilize very well. Mushrooms,

1518
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 10: for example, which would be similar in material to tentacles.

1519
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 10: I think there's been twelve in the world that have

1520
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 10: been found of fossils. So no, the tentacles really really

1521
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 10: poorly fossilized. This would be the hard shell of it.

1522
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 8: So my question, let's back up a little bit. When

1523
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 8: you said you glass us up.

1524
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: Yep, I didn't know what it was, right, I mean,

1525
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: you found it in your noox.

1526
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 10: In my spotting scope.

1527
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: Were you looking for deer?

1528
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 10: I was looking for deer, but looking most of my

1529
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:48,839
Speaker 10: deer hunts evolve.

1530
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: And that's why he's got that buck sit next to him,

1531
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: because he got that buck later that day. That's right.

1532
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 10: So I found this vacuu light in the morning, and

1533
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 10: then that afternoon, only a few hundred yards away, I

1534
01:18:59,280 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 10: killed this buck.

1535
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,919
Speaker 1: So you're telling me you saw that through your scope.

1536
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was.

1537
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 10: I knew it was unnatural, like I was like that

1538
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 10: that's something I was painted picture too. Is it like

1539
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 10: in the middle of like just something. When I look

1540
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 10: at that, I see how rock It was in some

1541
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 10: bad landsy stuff that had a lot of like dead

1542
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 10: grass on it. This was late in November and it

1543
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 10: was just laying there. It actually had a couple other

1544
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 10: smaller VACUU lights next to it. Steve, you mentioned that

1545
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 10: you found some vacu lights before. Here's a smaller section.

1546
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: I found the sections. This.

1547
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 10: This I found him on Tana. This came from Wyoming.

1548
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 10: It's also a bad that's what I have these.

1549
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: My kids have found him too. Yeah. Can I tell

1550
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: you a neat little story. Yeah. I know an old

1551
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: timer that he's well into his eighties. He had one

1552
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: of these sitting on a shelf in his house and

1553
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was. And I said, dude,

1554
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: what is that? And he said, I don't know, some

1555
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: kind of fossil. And he had had it for I

1556
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: mean decades. I gather because I never found anybody that

1557
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: could tell me what that was. He doesn't know the

1558
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 1: first thing about internet stuff. So I put it on Instagram.

1559
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, what is this? And within seconds I'm like,

1560
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: that's evaculate And so I go and I show them.

1561
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: We go into Google and type in vaculate and I

1562
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: pulled all these pictures of them. Yeah, okay, And he's

1563
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: pretty surprised by this whole revelation. It's very convinced that

1564
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: that's what he's holding. Was very happy. A while later,

1565
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: he calls me and he says, what was the website

1566
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: you were showing me the pictures. I was like, it's

1567
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: called it's Google. Yeah, all right.

1568
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 10: Native Americans would find those lots, and they call them

1569
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 10: buffalo stones because if you look at the bottom, you

1570
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 10: could see like you're looking at the undercarriage of bison.

1571
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 10: I think the black Feet specific had some origin stories

1572
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 10: about how they were good luck. There was a woman

1573
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 10: who found one when they were in the middle of

1574
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 10: a famine, and then the next day a whole herd

1575
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 10: of bison showed up and it like really turned things

1576
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 10: around for them. So back you light or buffalo calling stones.

1577
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:20,480
Speaker 10: M I've heard that buffalo calling that's a buffalo calling stone.

1578
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: That does work. If you're applying for a buffalo tag.

1579
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 10: Well, it helped me kill this deer that afternoon.

1580
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:27,839
Speaker 4: I stick one of those in with your application.

1581
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1582
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 10: Yeah. This is a cactus buck.

1583
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 9: No.

1584
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 10: Normally, white tails and mule deer will shed their velvet

1585
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 10: in late August early September. It happens when the photo

1586
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 10: period changes. Day start getting shorter, bucks elevate their testosterone

1587
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 10: and then their velvet sheds. When that doesn't happen, it's

1588
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 10: a cactus buck and it's kind of a catch all

1589
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 10: term right. Cactus bucks can come in many forms, many

1590
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 10: shapes and size. It could be an antler dough. It

1591
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 10: could be a hermaphrodite that has man and female sex organs.

1592
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 10: It could be a buck that lived a normal life

1593
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 10: as a buck, and then one day he messed up

1594
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 10: his testicles, crossing a bar boy or fence, got hit

1595
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 10: by a vehicle, was in a fight with another buck,

1596
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 10: and got stabbed in the nuts, and then that can

1597
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 10: mess with their hormones and create a cactus buck.

1598
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 4: Or I was told you keep going with that list.

1599
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: I was liking that.

1600
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 10: Yes, okay, I can't think of any other examples.

1601
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, I suppose you get right in the sack.

1602
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: You can take this leather. That's good as way.

1603
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 10: This buck, for example, though, was born this way. His

1604
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 10: testicles had never dropped, and they were about the size

1605
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 10: of a cashew.

1606
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1607
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 10: So when you went to gut him, was there a

1608
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 10: sack or it was an empty coin purson?

1609
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 4: What was like a full sized sack but empty.

1610
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 10: It was it was like absorbed up into the stumach.

1611
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 10: You could see like, okay, this is where his his

1612
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 10: sack and testicles should be. And it was just like

1613
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 10: a slight change in the topography.

1614
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 2: H there, Did you shoot him like you knew what

1615
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: he was? And you shot him for that reason.

1616
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 10: I knew what he was. He was with a few

1617
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 10: other bucks what he was because he was he wasn't

1618
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,919
Speaker 10: hardhorned right right? And we had seen other bucks that weekend.

1619
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 10: Do you know when you see them that time of

1620
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 10: year that it's a cactus buck?

1621
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 6: Did you see any other cactus bucks? And I feel

1622
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 6: like we've talked about a lot of it, man Will.

1623
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 6: I have found like there's specific area that we hunt

1624
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 6: and it's like we've seen so many of them, and

1625
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 6: it's just it's bizarre.

1626
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 10: This idea gained traction after EHD. Twenty twelve was a

1627
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 10: terrible year for EHD. Gotcha, and the worst years of

1628
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 10: EHD are often when it's a wet season followed by

1629
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 10: a dry season. Twenty eleven was super wet. Twenty twelve

1630
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 10: was very dry for much of the country. That was

1631
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 10: when I think biologists started to notice more. They're like, oh,

1632
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 10: you can have some weird stuff that happens to deer

1633
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 10: when they survive EHD. You see it with the hoofs

1634
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 10: that get curled. Have you ever seen that.

1635
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so.

1636
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 10: That that was an example.

1637
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Not that hoof rock that's wreaking havoc in the Northwest.

1638
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 10: No, not that, And I think some folks, I don't

1639
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 10: know that it's been proven, but they've they've come up

1640
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 10: with the idea that if you have an area that

1641
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 10: was hit by but hit bad by EHD, but you

1642
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 10: have some deer that survive it, cactus bucks become more common.

1643
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 10: I shot this buck in twenty nineteen. I went through

1644
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 10: a check station on the way home. They had told

1645
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 10: me they checked about one hundred deer that day and

1646
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 10: this was the second cactus buck. So for that area

1647
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 10: it was about two percent of deer, but I think,

1648
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 10: you know, it could be all the way up to

1649
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 10: ten percent in some spots.

1650
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: I remember, I can't remember what some guys are telling

1651
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: me about. One of those islands in Alaska and more

1652
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: western Alaska that has the introduced Kimera field is a

1653
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: fog Nak or Kodiak or one of those islands has

1654
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: introduced you know, introduced blacktails. It's almost some area where

1655
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 1: it's just like a pile of them running around. I

1656
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: never found out if it was true or not, but

1657
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: it's just like common in some spot like it introduced herd.

1658
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 10: Yep, that was one of my favorite days of hunting.

1659
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: Ever. I found this to either two of the three

1660
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: things you like? Oh, what's the third?

1661
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 4: Four?

1662
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: What's the fourth? Where you like sports a little bit,

1663
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: you like your wife, you like stones.

1664
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 4: And you like bucks.

1665
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: That's right? Yeah?

1666
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 4: Are you with your wife that day?

1667
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 9: No?

1668
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't. So you get two of the four things

1669
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: he likes.

1670
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, one of my favorite rocks and one of my

1671
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 10: favorite bucks. Have you ever seen how they preserve the

1672
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 10: velvet on a deer?

1673
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: That was my next question.

1674
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, they have like three ways. My understanding, that's going to.

1675
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: Live here in the studio for a while.

1676
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure. If if we're good with it, we're

1677
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 10: still decorating. We're still like three ways trivia mm hmm

1678
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 10: about cactus bucks. One of them is freeze drying, which

1679
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 10: I think has become more common.

1680
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: Hadn't heard that.

1681
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 10: Another one is they'll scrape the velvet off and then

1682
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 10: they'll put an artificial velvet on. I don't like spraying,

1683
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 10: you know, insuly.

1684
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm composed of that.

1685
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 10: And then the third way, which is how this one

1686
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 10: was done, is they have a chemical cocktail it's similar

1687
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 10: to embalming fluid that they just inject all over.

1688
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with that.

1689
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 10: That's that's how this one preserved it.

1690
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 4: It's hard to take care of.

1691
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, cost me an extra fifty dollars from the taxi gervists.

1692
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: Man, well, we used we used to hunt caribou in

1693
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: August when they had all that velvet. My god, is

1694
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: that stuff getting nasty? Man? Like, you don't think of flies.

1695
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: It's all full of blood, so you go to grab

1696
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: them and your hands get bloody. You don't think of

1697
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: flies getting on antler. Yeah, they love it. So it's

1698
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: just these fly ridden messes. And so I used to

1699
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: think that something. I was gonna try to save one,

1700
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: but you just can't. Yeah, and then it starts to

1701
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: rot and it's falling off and it's nasty. But I

1702
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 1: did want to get a big bunch of that velvet

1703
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: and get it tanned and make like a bra for

1704
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: my wife man lined with that antler velvet.

1705
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: Man, Uh huh, that's funny.

1706
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 4: This one was.

1707
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wanted to do one out of like, Yeah,

1708
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: I always telling her about it. She's like, you just

1709
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: don't understand.

1710
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 8: I just don't understand you wouldn't get it.

1711
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: She doesn't understand to get her like a fur of

1712
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: velvet lined bra.

1713
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 4: Krin is that? Why is that not appealing?

1714
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 9: I find it appealing?

1715
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well Krinn, Yeah she also has animal part earings.

1716
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 9: I do it.

1717
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 4: See is like to be warmer and I'll get out.

1718
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it'd be real comfortable.

1719
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 1: She's like, it's just not a cold area, like your

1720
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: fingers get cold, cold, cold cold.

1721
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 9: You can think about it as I mean, I wouldn't

1722
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 9: think about it as whether it's insulating or not, but

1723
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 9: more just like a texture, like what's what's comfortable to

1724
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 9: the touch?

1725
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 7: Sure?

1726
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's thinking about it the wrong way.

1727
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 4: She's like, it's like lots of things.

1728
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: Like your cheeks get cold, your hands get cold.

1729
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 9: Lauer, you shouldn't move forward with it.

1730
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah that's great man. I like that.

1731
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 8: Thank you.

1732
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: That's true. We got what are we going to kick out?

1733
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 10: There's a lot of white space, there is this is

1734
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 10: this like the.

1735
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 9: We're going to keep redecorating and we oh, we should

1736
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 9: move our Warner Bratzler meat tenderizers. Put a little meat

1737
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 9: eater cap on him, call him warrener b.

1738
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, or he can go on one of the other

1739
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: shelves in the new place.

1740
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 10: I'll point out this fossil is found on public land

1741
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 10: and was on b l M and it's not against

1742
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 10: the law. It's not against law. It's legal to collect

1743
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 10: common invertebrates. And they specifically call out you know, they're

1744
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 10: not very specific, but they say, like common invertebrates such

1745
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,640
Speaker 10: as mollusks, clams, things like that, this would be a

1746
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 10: type of mollusk. They're very common. They' found around the world.

1747
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 10: So I kept it, and that's legal.

1748
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: I had a great exchange with Spencer one time. I

1749
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: think I hit you up on an inReach device, okay,

1750
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: And I said we had found a huge block of

1751
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 1: old seafloor. There was a clam bed, I remember, and

1752
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: my daughter wanted me to pack it out. Yep, it's

1753
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,839
Speaker 1: still sitting there because this is about seventy pounds.

1754
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 4: It's quite a way is off the river.

1755
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 2: Huh.

1756
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 4: And I texted you about what are the rules.

1757
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: About it and what was the pounded you're allowed?

1758
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 10: Well, so they get into specifics for petrified wood. It's like,

1759
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 10: I think it's twenty five pounds a day. Can't exceed

1760
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 10: two hundred and fifty pounds in a year, and then

1761
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 10: they have something like you can't take a piece that's

1762
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 10: larger than X amount of pounds.

1763
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember what that was.

1764
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 10: When it comes to the fossils, though, they just say

1765
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 10: you cannot collect to trade, barter or sell, and you

1766
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 10: must collect in reasonable quantities.

1767
01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 4: That's what that's what the that's what you text.

1768
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what a reasonable does it seem like

1769
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: a reasonable.

1770
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 8: Hat?

1771
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 10: It'd be a reasonable quantity.

1772
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's unreasonable that I would tote this

1773
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: out of here, but it seems like a reasonable quantity.

1774
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 4: But no, I propped it up. It's still sitting there

1775
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 4: where I found it.

1776
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Presumably what's that unless someone thought it was a reasonable

1777
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: quantity and they.

1778
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone could.

1779
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: Carry that out of there. Man. Uh, all right, one

1780
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 1: last thing, Max, you have your grand You've taken the

1781
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: possession of your grandfather's fishing hat.

1782
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it's a fishing hat, it's a do

1783
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 7: it all hat.

1784
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 4: Is he no longer with us?

1785
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 7: No, he's not. He passed away in twenty nineteen. Oh yeah, So.

1786
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 1: Did he specifically leave that hat to you? No?

1787
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 7: I think my dad took it and then I took

1788
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 7: it from my dad.

1789
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 11: Okay, but yeah, it's kind of a funny story behind

1790
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 11: this hat.

1791
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 7: It's uncomfortable as crap. If you can't see it now.

1792
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 9: It looks like very wax, very wax.

1793
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 1: It is like an old man hat, like a nice

1794
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: clean hat.

1795
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm bald. Like it's got to feel good,

1796
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: know that in your hat with antler velvet.

1797
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 5: Well, now that you.

1798
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 11: Mentioned that, it's not a bad idea, but my dad,

1799
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 11: it was my grandpa's birthday and my dad got that

1800
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 11: for my grandpa for his birthday.

1801
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 7: Well, not this hat.

1802
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 11: Sorry, he got a different hat for his birthday, and

1803
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 11: my Grandpa hated it, and so he took the hat

1804
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 11: that my dad gave him, put it on the shelf,

1805
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 11: went out, took my dad's credit card, bought this hat,

1806
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 11: which was more expensive, and didn't tell my dad about it.

1807
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 11: And then he was just walking around with his hat,

1808
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 11: and my Dad's like, hey, what happened to this hat?

1809
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 11: And Grandpa didn't say anything about it. And then my

1810
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 11: dad's birthday came around next month and the hat that

1811
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 11: my dad got my grandpa, my grandpa.

1812
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 7: Just gave it back to him.

1813
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 11: Sure, because he didn't like it as a present. Yeah,

1814
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 11: as a present and he found this at.

1815
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 4: Was that when you maint that was one of your

1816
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 4: main outdoor mentors?

1817
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Big time?

1818
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,799
Speaker 2: Was he prone to stealing people's credit cards?

1819
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 7: I guess I don't know you do you wear that hat?

1820
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 5: I do not know.

1821
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 11: This hat sits on, sits on the wall, sits on

1822
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 11: the shelf, so keep sack.

1823
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, big time. But yeah, I think my I think

1824
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 7: I was six.

1825
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 11: Uh, there's a photo of me my grandpa when we're

1826
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 11: when I was six out pheasant hunting and he's wearing

1827
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 11: this hat.

1828
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 7: Really yeah, it's pretty sweet.

1829
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 5: Think of all the adventures this hell oh, big time,

1830
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 5: big time.

1831
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 7: But no, I was.

1832
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 11: Just just trying to think of something cool to bring

1833
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 11: in and I was like, that's really cool to me

1834
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 11: because without my grandpa, I don't think I would have

1835
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 11: got involved in hunting. And then if I wouldn't have

1836
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 11: gotten involved in hunting, I would never picked up a camera.

1837
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 11: And if I never would have picked up camera, I

1838
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 11: wouldn't be here right now.

1839
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 9: So maybe we shouldn't put that on a shelf in

1840
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 9: the studio. I feel like it's a little too precious for.

1841
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 8: Well, what's the how do you preserve something like that?

1842
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: We're talking about the pistol. Only put some Scotch guard on.

1843
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 9: Like put it in like a blocks of apoxy.

1844
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know what man? You know how people

1845
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 4: do that? Or they resin set it in the block.

1846
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Man? If that I got real good, that's all I

1847
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: would do. I'd have like stuff that I was like, damn,

1848
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't put that in there?

1849
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 2: You could build a house out all that.

1850
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just make your house out of stuff he

1851
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 1: sunk into blocks, all your cool stuff.

1852
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 4: You would need to hang it on the wall because

1853
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 4: it was the wall.

1854
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 9: That's very cool.

1855
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 7: I don't think I'll do that with this.

1856
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 10: Steve, did you know that Max is a fresh trivia champion?

1857
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: You won one? Yeah?

1858
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 7: Sure did?

1859
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 4: Who was there?

1860
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: Doctor?

1861
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 5: Who was there?

1862
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: Was Doctor Randall?

1863
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 7: Doctor Randall's there?

1864
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 8: Barren Square? Whooped down?

1865
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 4: Did you beat?

1866
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 12: You?

1867
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: Beat you?

1868
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:01,919
Speaker 2: Honestly?

1869
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: There was a three way like you won one with

1870
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 1: doctor Randall and Brody in the room. Yep?

1871
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 10: Do you want to play the tiebreaker?

1872
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: Steve?

1873
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 10: See if you did gotten close, I'll ask you.

1874
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 4: A wrap show up?

1875
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Go ahead?

1876
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 11: What year did Steve her when pass away? If you

1877
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 11: can remember he passed away by sting Ray was right.

1878
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 2: I didn't win trivia, but I got the tiebreaker.

1879
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got the correct.

1880
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 10: Two thousand and six. Brody was right on the nose,

1881
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 10: so we had the extra hundred dollars donation. But he

1882
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 10: wasn't in the tiebreaker.

1883
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: You did that, Oh yeah, but you didn't let him

1884
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: win it.

1885
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 10: No, no, no, Max one, he said. Two thousand and eight.

1886
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 4: Me and Brody argued about that game.

1887
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: There an eight Brody did. Brody just sat there. But

1888
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I had a lot of.

1889
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 2: You know, there's sore losers. I told Steve he's a

1890
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 2: sore winner.

1891
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: I had to yell over his bolt multiple times to

1892
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 1: give him various thoughts on why I felt like it

1893
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:04,480
Speaker 1: was a scam.

1894
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 4: Uh huh, just what even though, all right, everybody, thanks

1895
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 4: for joining studios, shaping up.

1896
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna look good. I like, whose idea was the muscos.

1897
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 1: That's great.

1898
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 2: It's a whole dang wall.

1899
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah something.

1900
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 4: Someday I'm gonna comb that and get all.

1901
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 2: The kiviat you remember giving me the yeah flies Halloween mask.

1902
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 1: I want to comb out enough of that stuff to

1903
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: have a hat made out of that kiviot. I think

1904
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 1: it's the word for it kivot, it's more. It's like

1905
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: better than any wool for insulatory quality. And I think

1906
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: you'd comb out a whole hat out of there, and

1907
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: you wouldn't even be able to tell from looking at

1908
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 1: it because it looks like a big foot hanging there.

1909
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: That's what I first thought walked in here. I thought

1910
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: someone got a big foot?

1911
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 5: Did you get did you get that?

1912
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: I killed that nan Back Island.

1913
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 5: And you thought it was a big foot.

1914
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: Years ago? Years ago, I drew, I don't even think

1915
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 1: you can draw it right now. Years ago I drew,

1916
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: uh uh muskox tag for none of that island. Yeah,

1917
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: it was like d x O one or something like

1918
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: that was the hunt number. And yeah, man was we

1919
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: had a good time. Steve.

1920
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 10: You're fixing to put First Light out of business with

1921
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 10: all this muskox and velvet clothing.

1922
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: Roll it into the lineup.

1923
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, I know that would be bad, wouldn't it?

1924
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: Because I could just picture them being like, you know,

1925
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 1: my brawl line came out.

1926
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 9: Okay, bye everybody.

1927
01:36:47,840 --> 01:37:13,719
Speaker 12: Thanks on the seal, gray shine like silver in the sun. Ride, Ride,

1928
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 12: Ride on alone, Sweetheart, were done, beat this damn horse

1929
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 12: to death, taking a new one and ride We're done

1930
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 12: beat this damn horse today, so take a new one

1931
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 12: and ride on