Speaker 1: This is He Said a Ya Dho with Eric Winter
Speaker 1: and Rosalind Fantaz.
Speaker 2: Hardo.
Speaker 3: We have another episode of He Said aade O. Unfortunately
Speaker 3: aad Oo is not going to be a part of
Speaker 3: this episode.
Speaker 4: She is getting herself checked.
Speaker 3: Out after the recent injury which we all know. But listen,
Speaker 3: we have an awesome guest today, Fabricio Wheelo. I hope
Speaker 3: I said that correctly. He has been in the business
Speaker 3: for a long long time, but currently on the hit
Speaker 3: show running point on Netflix, talking about in a roundabout well,
Speaker 3: I guess loosely based on the bus Family, which I'm
Speaker 3: obsessed with. Can't wait to talk to him about this
Speaker 3: and this whole process. Let's let's bring.
Speaker 4: Him in morning morning.
Speaker 3: My wife was supposed to be here, Rosalind, but she
Speaker 3: broke her arm, smacked her head in the side of
Speaker 3: a car.
Speaker 4: She's all messed up. She's she's recovering.
Speaker 3: This happen two weeks ago, but she's bandaged like all
Speaker 3: around her head had a massive lum that was too
Speaker 3: much to explain.
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry she's not.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so sorry to hear. I hope she makes
Speaker 1: a quick recovery. That's that's like that's horrible.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. But listen, man, let's talk about you.
Speaker 3: You are, you're on a phenomenal show right now, which
Speaker 3: is exciting. And you've been in this business for a
Speaker 3: long time though you've worked alongside, you know, some incredible people.
Speaker 3: One thing I just love right at the gate is
Speaker 3: you're from LA. I'm from La as well. We're a
Speaker 3: rare breed to be from Los Angeles in this business. Yes,
Speaker 3: tell me about your your whole origin story. Were you
Speaker 3: always into acting? I know your mom was in the industry, correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got a right. I'm LA born and raised.
Speaker 1: My mom started out in uh like the community theater
Speaker 1: here and the local theater.
Speaker 2: In Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: So as a kid, I just grew up in green
Speaker 1: rooms and and uh just during rehearsals, I was in
Speaker 1: the theater doing homework. And you know, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a natural blend of like film students and independent filmmakers
Speaker 1: that kind of come into the theater and you know,
Speaker 1: vice versa. And they'd approach my mom and be like,
Speaker 1: can we borrow your son for this short film? She'd
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know, go ahead and ask him.
Speaker 1: And they would ask me and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and do it. And I really took
Speaker 1: well to set. And I was really young. I must
Speaker 1: have been like five six years old.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: And you know I was really well.
Speaker 1: Behaved on a set, and I knew I kind of
Speaker 1: understood what the director wanted if they asked something to
Speaker 1: me and followed direction well. And when I was about seven,
Speaker 1: my mom was like you really like to do this?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 1: I was like, I absolutely love it. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: why don't we get you like a commercial agent? And
Speaker 1: I started going out for commercials and then at like eleven,
Speaker 1: I want to say, my commercial agent was like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to take you on for film and TV at eleven, yes,
Speaker 1: Like I was obsessed with Spider Man.
Speaker 4: I was like in school at the time. Are you
Speaker 4: home school at that time?
Speaker 2: I was in school okay, yes, but I was at
Speaker 2: one point. I did get home school later later on.
Speaker 4: Where in La'd you grow up?
Speaker 1: So I grew up, I want to say, like everywhere.
Speaker 1: I claimed Los Angeles as a whole. I've lived in
Speaker 1: many different places that I all think of his home, Whittier,
Speaker 1: Pico Rivera, Alhambra, Culver City.
Speaker 3: So I grew up out that way. I grew up
Speaker 3: in La Plente, so I grew up in La Pente Heights.
Speaker 3: I mean Whittier was like a stomping ground because I
Speaker 3: played sports with all of them over there. So I know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know that hill area. I always say LA as well.
Speaker 3: It's La County, a city, but it's still La.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I know, I know that the Whittier area,
Speaker 1: Pico Rivera area really well. And then when I made
Speaker 1: my way to hambro I got really tight with like
Speaker 1: the downtown area at East La Boyle Heights because I
Speaker 1: was right next to City Terrace. So I have friends
Speaker 1: all around and I grew up in many different places.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure you're you're you mean, your mom, your
Speaker 3: family is probably super super proud of you.
Speaker 4: I know they are in general.
Speaker 3: But here you are now, after working your way through
Speaker 3: this business, You're on a hit show on Netflix. Everybody
Speaker 3: wants to be on a great streamer like Netflix, and
Speaker 3: you know, doing a show that, to me is so
Speaker 3: exciting because it's loosely based on one of the most
Speaker 3: exciting historic families of Los Angeles, the Bus family. And
Speaker 3: I don't know if you grew up a Laker fan,
Speaker 3: but I definitely did. I've seen all these documentaries. I
Speaker 3: watched the one on you know, the show on HBO
Speaker 3: about that, you know, their version of the Lakers Dynasty.
Speaker 3: I've watched the documentaries. Now we have this sort of
Speaker 3: parody that Mindy Kaylene put together. Kate Hudson, great cast.
Speaker 3: What's that whole experience been like amazing?
Speaker 1: You know at first when people saw like our trailer,
Speaker 1: I think we got a little bit of like backlash
Speaker 1: of just people commenting like this is a total rip
Speaker 1: off of Genie Bus's story. Like, you know, the comment
Speaker 1: section is going crazy, and I don't think people realize
Speaker 1: that Genie Busses our executive producers.
Speaker 4: Yeah she's involved.
Speaker 1: Yet now she's you know, she's you know, they see
Speaker 1: her in the press with us and Genie right there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Jeanie's Genie's kind of been this huge tool
Speaker 1: and granting the writer's room these amazing stories. And it's
Speaker 1: only the tip of the iceberg that we get to
Speaker 1: see in season one, right There's she has a lifetime
Speaker 1: of really cool story.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So exciting to get to know someone like Jeanie.
Speaker 1: I've gotten a chance to go to games when people
Speaker 1: always ask me, like, have you been to a game,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, Genie's Genie's hosted us in the best
Speaker 1: way and just to show overall, it's just that they
Speaker 1: they they're on set and they treat us like like
Speaker 1: a team. A lot of people say like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: a family on set. It's like, no, everyone's a team.
Speaker 1: We're all trying to make each other better. We have
Speaker 1: the best of time, like we're all friends, but everyone's
Speaker 1: there to put up their best.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Did you watch any have you seen Winning time did
Speaker 3: you get Did you watch any of those shows or
Speaker 3: the documentaries on the Lakers in general, not from her,
Speaker 3: you know, direct perspective, but about the bus family.
Speaker 4: Did you watch any of that going in?
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of Winning before I even
Speaker 1: knew the audition was a thought in the universe, Like
Speaker 1: I watched it before I even know the show was
Speaker 1: on his way, And once I booked the show, I
Speaker 1: watched I think like almost every Netflix documentary, like what
Speaker 1: like the the Olympic basketball documentary. I watched like just
Speaker 1: just anything I could find on Netflix.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's fascinating.
Speaker 3: I mean, just even knowing where Genie how she started,
Speaker 3: you know, in the situation with the family, working with
Speaker 3: the organization work, you know, climbing her way up and
Speaker 3: really being the brain's the right one for this to
Speaker 3: be handed off to when her dad passed. I mean,
Speaker 3: she really was the rightful one. But you have a jealous,
Speaker 3: completely you know, wild rich family that they'd all want
Speaker 3: to see their younger sister take over. And it's not uncommon,
Speaker 3: and we hear these stories all the time. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: you're not, you can't be the one. You're you know,
Speaker 3: there's no way. But she rightfully is the one that
Speaker 3: knew everything about the team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean Genie had all that to say
Speaker 1: with our show, you know, she had she had so
Speaker 1: many like you can imagine, on the business side of things,
Speaker 1: on the personal side of of what her life has
Speaker 1: been like, and also she felt really passionate about the
Speaker 1: comedic moments that just have happened with life and dealing
Speaker 1: with players in the organization. So I'm glad they were
Speaker 1: working on this project I think like close to five years.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I was in that timeline at the
Speaker 1: right place, at the right time that I got the
Speaker 1: opportunity to, you know, to join them because it's been
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 3: Is your character completely fictionalized or was there any there's
Speaker 3: no truth into that, Like that's totally part of your
Speaker 3: this show, right.
Speaker 1: I think there's there's they pulled some truth from a
Speaker 1: little bit of places. But you know, I think the
Speaker 1: idea of having a young Latino brother, I don't think
Speaker 1: is uh.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's in the mix.
Speaker 3: But something that's been kept a secret. I wonder that
Speaker 3: they shared about this is all part of the creativity
Speaker 3: of the show.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: No, But but Jackie, I think was really they wanted
Speaker 1: to bring in, I think in the best way, the
Speaker 1: average La fan, the average Angelino, this kind of a
Speaker 1: boy who gets the world overnight, but also is dealing
Speaker 1: with uh, you know, loss and and and uh acceptance
Speaker 1: into this new family and accepting this new family and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, trying to navigate his youth too.
Speaker 3: Definitely, let me ask you, she worked with one of
Speaker 3: my all time favorite actors, Brad Pitt.
Speaker 4: How old were you when you did World War Z?
Speaker 4: And what was that experience?
Speaker 2: Like, Ah, World War Z.
Speaker 1: I must have been like eleven or twelve, somewhere in
Speaker 1: that in that age range.
Speaker 2: Brad is just he's one of the coolest guys.
Speaker 1: I think, like, uh, I when I when I had
Speaker 1: gotten the film, I'd never like left my city, like I.
Speaker 1: I just I had never been on a plane. So
Speaker 1: that we got to shoot in London for three months,
Speaker 1: and you know, I took my mom with me. I
Speaker 1: got on a plane for the first time. But Brad was, like,
Speaker 1: I think, the first famous person I had ever met, right,
Speaker 1: I'd never met anybody on TV and just the coolest
Speaker 1: dude ever.
Speaker 4: That's a big one to start with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, super super kind and just the way you know,
Speaker 1: now I think about it and watching how he navigated
Speaker 1: kind of his life during that time, is super admirable,
Speaker 1: really respectful with everyone, but just just he was.
Speaker 2: So nice to me, so nice to everyone on set.
Speaker 3: Honestly, that's dope. I He's literally one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: And I have a funny bradbit story. When I first
Speaker 3: got with my manager, my current manager, even now this
Speaker 3: is just twenty plus years ago, is Brillstein Gray. At
Speaker 3: the time, the lady used to cut my hair was
Speaker 3: his very good friend for like years decades and her
Speaker 3: husband was like one of his heads of security.
Speaker 4: Blah blah. I knew a little bit about him.
Speaker 3: And I go to Brilstein to take my for my
Speaker 3: second meeting with like the managers to see if they're
Speaker 3: gonna represent me and what's gonna go on. I'm in
Speaker 3: my early twenties and I get in the elevator to
Speaker 3: go up, and all of a sudden, this hand comes
Speaker 3: in and holds the elevator and says, oh, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: let me let me jump in with you.
Speaker 4: And I turn.
Speaker 3: It's just me and Brad Pitt going up the elevator
Speaker 3: to go to the offices because he's represented there.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my god, it's freaking Brad Pitt.
Speaker 3: And I don't get starstruck by almost anybody, like athletes
Speaker 3: I have an affinity for because I just I played
Speaker 3: sports my whole life. So I see an athlete, I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, that's so and so right. But Brad Pitt,
Speaker 3: big fan, he walks in. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I gotta say something. What am I gonna say? I
Speaker 3: don't have to say right, I'm gonna say hi, So
Speaker 3: I loosely, you know, tell him, oh, I know, Rebecca,
Speaker 3: she cuts my hair, And you just want to say hi,
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh my god, I love Beck She's amazing.
Speaker 3: Are you represented at Burlsteen? And I'm like, no, this
Speaker 3: is my you know, second meeting. He's like, Oh, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be great, man, You're gonna be on board. Best
Speaker 3: of luck when you go in there. Trust me, Cynthia,
Speaker 3: and like he was so cool, so nice, easy going,
Speaker 3: and I was like forever, that's one of my favorites.
Speaker 4: Like, Brad Pitt, You're the man.
Speaker 2: He's a special guy.
Speaker 4: He is at that level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's such a special guy.
Speaker 1: And to watch someone at that age, like when I
Speaker 1: was younger, just I'm not saying I want to be
Speaker 1: like Brad, but I definitely.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Just the way he respected everybody and just the way
Speaker 1: he handled himself on a set was a role model
Speaker 1: in my eyes for sure.
Speaker 4: And you need that.
Speaker 3: I mean it's a big you're seeing now you're working
Speaker 3: with another you know, film actors been around for a
Speaker 3: long time, Kate Hudson, A lot of great actors in
Speaker 3: general on that show. Working with all these people, you
Speaker 3: a when you're part of a big ensemble and someone
Speaker 3: is playing the Genie Buss in that project, you know
Speaker 3: you want them to be the leader in the role
Speaker 3: model of that cast, you know, setting an example, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure she does a great job of it. And
Speaker 3: then it makes it easier for everybody to find their
Speaker 3: sort of chemistry and feel safe. And I deal with
Speaker 3: with the show I'm on. Nathan Fillim was big star
Speaker 3: on TV for a long time. He set us, you know,
Speaker 3: very good example, and we all fell into place. Eight
Speaker 3: seasons now we feel very comfortable with each other and
Speaker 3: we have a blast, and it changes the dynamic where
Speaker 3: if you have somebody that's ahead of the ship and
Speaker 3: it's a nightmare, it makes your job so much more difficult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get it.
Speaker 1: It's a It can be hard for a lot of
Speaker 1: number ones, and just even the life that you know,
Speaker 1: people maybe don't exactly sign up for, it can be
Speaker 1: really hard. But I mean, ultimately it's your responsibility to navigate,
Speaker 1: and it's part of your job to set that tone
Speaker 1: and be gracious. If not, maybe just step away, take
Speaker 1: your time till you feel a little better.
Speaker 3: I fully agree, man, I fully agree. There's nothing worse
Speaker 3: than going to work and not being happy being there
Speaker 3: because it's a nightmare.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So your show is out now obviously everybody can stream
Speaker 3: it on Netflix. Anything else you have coming up you
Speaker 3: want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Oh, literally right now, we're It all came so fast.
Speaker 1: We got renewed six days after it dropped, so we're
Speaker 1: already getting into our first table reads. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: shooting pretty soon, so my years looking like a running point.
Speaker 1: Other than that, like in the next couple of months,
Speaker 1: I just I do stand up as well, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try and squeeze and stand up shot on stage
Speaker 1: as much as possible.
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm so I'm genuinely so excited to get back.
Speaker 1: I love this job, I love everybody I work with,
Speaker 1: and it's it's super fun.
Speaker 3: Have you been Have you been doing stand up here
Speaker 3: in La Yeah, a comedy store and all that.
Speaker 1: I haven't done the Comedy Store yet. I've been doing
Speaker 1: a lot of laugh Factory Flappers. I just did Flappers
Speaker 1: and Burbank on Sunday. Saturday, I was out in Bell Wednesday,
Speaker 1: I was in Long Beach laugh Factory.
Speaker 2: So I'm fixing my sleep schedule.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Next time you're at one of those spots, you know, letter,
Speaker 3: I would love to find out because we were just
Speaker 3: that comedy store out too long ago, funny enough with
Speaker 3: like a date night with another couple and we had
Speaker 3: a we had a blast.
Speaker 4: So if you get a laugh factory, it's it's a
Speaker 4: great night out.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: Sweet man. Well, thank you for being on. Appreciate you,
Speaker 3: you know, coming by and having this whole experience. It's
Speaker 3: a congrats on this six US shows. Awesome second season
Speaker 3: man in our business. That's all blessing.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Please send Rosalin my best and tell her I say,
Speaker 1: get well soon.
Speaker 4: I will for sure. Man, take care.
Speaker 2: Cheers you as well.
Speaker 3: That was awesome, great guy having you know, just awesome Secce.
Speaker 3: I love seeing good people having the success they deserve
Speaker 3: what they've been working for. You know, he's so young
Speaker 3: and he's already crushing it with some big projects and
Speaker 3: this is a huge show, so I can't wait to
Speaker 3: see his stand up. Fabrizio, keep crushing it. I wish
Speaker 3: you the very best and hopefully we'll have Roz back
Speaker 3: here for the.
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