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Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. What the Cardinals did to
Speaker 1: the Titans in that joint practice last week, what the
Speaker 1: Cardinals did to the Titans in Nashville to start last
Speaker 1: season is exactly what we had for basically lunch and
Speaker 1: dinner every night, smoked and shredded Tennessee style barbecue. I mean,
Speaker 1: what the Cardinals did to the Titans is exactly what
Speaker 1: the game plan needs to be for every single opponent,
Speaker 1: what they need to serve up every single Sunday this season, pulled,
Speaker 1: sliced and slow cooked in that ninety degree heat and humidity.
Speaker 1: Cardinals are back the regular seasons around the corner, and
Speaker 1: we've got the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 1: in Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul Calvci here, Ron
Speaker 1: Wolfley on assignment. So it is a pleasure to welcome in.
Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson. Rob, are you regular season ready? Fall? Pulled pork? Hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: let me tell you I am ready. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you about three days into last week. I resembled that remark.
Speaker 1: I mean when when Ron Wolfley says, hey, PAULI pumped
Speaker 1: the brakes on the barbecue, you know you've hit rock bottom.
Speaker 1: That that really is the abyss. So I've been on
Speaker 1: a cleanse ever since. Rob. So, my wife's from Texas.
Speaker 1: It's brisket there, man, I'm all about the brisket. So, okay,
Speaker 1: you know we're getting ready for the regular season when
Speaker 1: the two worst days of this season have just passed.
Speaker 1: Those are the words of Cliff Kingsbury talking to the
Speaker 1: media last couple of days. Of course, it's cut down day.
Speaker 1: And just because you make the final fifty three doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're going to make it to a week one,
Speaker 1: because then there are Moose with a practice squad and
Speaker 1: off the waiver wire and so forth. It's an evolving,
Speaker 1: churning thing, this final roster. And Rob is a guy
Speaker 1: who played a decade in league. What's that like in
Speaker 1: the locker rooms? It must be that must be thicker
Speaker 1: than the humidity of Nashville, just hanging over everyone's head
Speaker 1: as you wait for the turk to make his way
Speaker 1: around a locker room. Yeah, I mean, after that last
Speaker 1: preseason game, the next couple of days, it's it's uncomfortable
Speaker 1: for everyone, even if you know you're on the bubble,
Speaker 1: especially it's it's uncomfortable. But even if you're a guy
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, is solidified as a starter or
Speaker 1: just you know, you know that you're gonna be on
Speaker 1: the team, you're gonna be on that fifty three man roster,
Speaker 1: it's still uncomfortable. You don't know what to say, you
Speaker 1: don't know how to act. It's uh, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just kind of hide in the weight room or something.
Speaker 1: It's it's really uncomfortable, but unfortunately it's it's a part
Speaker 1: of the business, and that's what this is. It's a business. Um.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys that got released are gonna
Speaker 1: find a home somewhere else based on what they put
Speaker 1: on tape in this preseason. Richard Lawrence is going to
Speaker 1: be our guest tonight, nose Tackle Extraordinary. We're gonna bring
Speaker 1: him on and we'll talk about some of that that
Speaker 1: dynamic and what he and his teammates have just gone through.
Speaker 1: We'll get into a whole bunch of different storylines. We're
Speaker 1: going to get into the cornerback room. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the deep fence as a whole. I want
Speaker 1: to get thoughts from Rob as a guy who played
Speaker 1: that linebacker spot in the NFL, what he thinks about
Speaker 1: both inside and outside linebacker, the pass rush. But let's
Speaker 1: start with what Cliff Kingsbury called the stars of camp,
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella and Greg Dortch, because Greg Dortch along the
Speaker 1: lines who were just talking about there, Rob said today
Speaker 1: was the day that he could finally exhale that once
Speaker 1: you saw the waiver claims that were submitted at one o'clock.
Speaker 1: Today was that's when you realize, Okay, I'm on this
Speaker 1: fifty three and look in Dortsch's case, wouldn't you agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, he's been cut five times at least
Speaker 1: coming into this season, but his play throughout the month
Speaker 1: August he made this team and then some oh, no question,
Speaker 1: he was outstanding in the preseason. Just did everything the
Speaker 1: coaching staff asked of him. He was consistent, great hands, speed,
Speaker 1: route running ability, did everything that was asked of him
Speaker 1: special teams wise, I'm really happy for Greg Dortch. You know,
Speaker 1: nobody deserved to be on that fifty three men roster
Speaker 1: more than him. Yeah. And then of course, well we'll
Speaker 1: let Cliff Kingsbury talk about it because there was another
Speaker 1: Star Camp and when he was asked about Greg Dortchi
Speaker 1: and company, here's what the head coach told the media today.
Speaker 1: All last year on scout team, it was to the
Speaker 1: point where I'm like, dude, you gotta stop doing that
Speaker 1: because we're losing a confidence on defense. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was making that many plays the day and he's just
Speaker 1: a ball out, that's what he is. And then my
Speaker 1: big deal is learning the offense and sign out where
Speaker 1: we can trust you on any givement player, You're gonna
Speaker 1: know what to do, You're gonna do it right, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be where we expect you to be. And he's
Speaker 1: really worked hard at that through the spring in summer
Speaker 1: and it paid off. He saw the plays he was
Speaker 1: making in the games and he does it in practice.
Speaker 1: And you know, the stars of the camp really to
Speaker 1: me were Andy, Him and Hamilton. They really stepped up
Speaker 1: and all performed at a high level, took advantage of
Speaker 1: their opportunities. You know what, it makes sense. It Isabella
Speaker 1: and Greg Dortch really pushed each other in the off season.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, Rob, because there's a
Speaker 1: question I as Storch himself, and I kind of treaded
Speaker 1: lightly because I wanted to know to what degree is
Speaker 1: he confident he can make all these plays in the
Speaker 1: regular season, because we've seen preseason stars before. If you
Speaker 1: rewind back about ten years, the Steven Williams of the
Speaker 1: world right ahead, I remember the Cardinals. Sure so and
Speaker 1: and he looked me, and you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: think he was offended by the question because he knows
Speaker 1: as well. He's got to prove it. But he came
Speaker 1: in last year week seventeen against Dallas. He made a
Speaker 1: couple of plays and made a big chunk catch. But
Speaker 1: they're going to be counting on him, especially in the
Speaker 1: absence of a DeAndre Hopkins and possibly Antoine Wesley. We
Speaker 1: still don't know with Rondelle more so, what's your confidence
Speaker 1: level he can perform in the regular season. I think
Speaker 1: he can. His game. His game translates in football into
Speaker 1: into the regular season. It just does. Just his his
Speaker 1: out running ability, speed, the great hands, and now that
Speaker 1: he has a better grasp of this offense and he's
Speaker 1: more in sync with Kyler Murray, the quarterbacks and the
Speaker 1: receiving group as a whole um, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: see a drop off in performance for Greg Dortch when
Speaker 1: he gets the opportunity, and he will have opportunity early on,
Speaker 1: especially because you do it all. You're right, you have
Speaker 1: question marks with some guys, with Antoine Wesley, Rondelle Moore.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't really know. DeAndre Hopkins is going
Speaker 1: to be out, So Greg Dortch is gonna get some
Speaker 1: playing time, and he's gonna get it early. So I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see what he does. I think he's going
Speaker 1: to perform as well, if not better than he did
Speaker 1: in the preseason. And to me, if Rondale Moore is
Speaker 1: going to be the guy who's going to be downfield
Speaker 1: a lot more than he was last year, well there's
Speaker 1: still that role in close offense where the receiver who's
Speaker 1: going to be the Jets sweep kind of guy. He's
Speaker 1: gonna go horizontal and lateral to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: I could easily see that being a Greg Dortch or
Speaker 1: perhaps and Andy Isabella with the fourth three speed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that because that's a big part of Cliff's offense,
Speaker 1: kind of that that behind the line of scrimmage wide
Speaker 1: receiver screens. Basically what it is is keeping defenses honest,
Speaker 1: making him creep up those safeties and get those linebackers attention,
Speaker 1: and then we'll dump it over the top. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of a Cliff Kingsbury offense. But
Speaker 1: I am more excited than more so for that, but
Speaker 1: I'm more excited for really seeing Rondel Moore stretch his
Speaker 1: legs a little and get downfield. Yeah, it's sort of
Speaker 1: the equivalent in Cliff Kingsbury using the receiver in that
Speaker 1: capacity you described like the Warriors spreading the floor in
Speaker 1: basketball right, making a defense defense sideline to sideline. And
Speaker 1: what I think was most encouraging, at least to me
Speaker 1: about Dortch and Andy Isabella, because you're talking about Greg Dortch,
Speaker 1: a guy they list at five to seven, is that
Speaker 1: they made catches downfield, they made catches in traffic, they
Speaker 1: made contested catches. And after the game, we had a
Speaker 1: chance to talk with Andy Isabella in Tennessee, and you
Speaker 1: just the intensity was palpable and Andy Isabella and I
Speaker 1: asked him, what do you hope that you and Greg
Speaker 1: dorts showed? Are we willing to stay in the fight
Speaker 1: when it gets tough, when it get practices, it gets cuff.
Speaker 1: On the days get tough, me and Greg were still there.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna go a long way, just in
Speaker 1: football of life and whateveryone going gets tough. Sure we
Speaker 1: don't back down, We won't get back up and keep going.
Speaker 1: He went on to say Rob that he's always been
Speaker 1: overlooked quote unquote, and sometimes he feels more comfortable when
Speaker 1: he's overlooked, and he said it was his job to
Speaker 1: make it as tough a decision as possible, and that
Speaker 1: he quote came in with a fierce mindset and I
Speaker 1: knew I was going to dominate what was missing to me?
Speaker 1: And he was pretty forthright early in his career that
Speaker 1: his confidence was up and down. It was sort of
Speaker 1: a roller coaster trying to determine whether he believed that
Speaker 1: he belonged in the NFL. There's no question about that
Speaker 1: to me. Now with Andy Isabelle, all you have to
Speaker 1: do is listen to his interviews. Yeah, and when a
Speaker 1: players playing with confidence at that position, he's catching the
Speaker 1: ball with his hands away from his body, that's confidence.
Speaker 1: And you saw that from Andy Isabella in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Hadn't seen that before. That was one of the big
Speaker 1: knocks on him as he was a body catcher and
Speaker 1: he couldn't get off of the press man, he couldn't
Speaker 1: get off of the cornerback. So he's over come a
Speaker 1: couple of those things and and you know, to see
Speaker 1: him catch the ball with his hands with confidence, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, running running good, Chris Routes, getting a couple
Speaker 1: of pass interferences downfield to extend drives in the preseason. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Andy Isabella has really grown in this offseason.
Speaker 1: You can see it and I hope it translates on
Speaker 1: the field. I really do. I I you know, I
Speaker 1: feel for that guy. He's he's been through a lot,
Speaker 1: and and he's he's absorbed a lot of criticism and
Speaker 1: you know, some of it rightly so, but some of
Speaker 1: it I think maybe a little unfounded. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella is a guy that you know, with with
Speaker 1: what he has and what he can do. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't teach speed. It's it's just something that that
Speaker 1: you can't teach, and and he has it, and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are able to find a way to utilize it
Speaker 1: to the best of their ability. Man that there could
Speaker 1: be a spot for Andy Isabella, and as a guy
Speaker 1: who was told in the all season that he could
Speaker 1: seek a trade, that his agent could call around and
Speaker 1: seek a trade, guess what, he might have a much
Speaker 1: bigger role than anticipated, just based on the uncertainty right
Speaker 1: now in the receiver room. We know DeAndre Hopkins has
Speaker 1: gone the first six games. We know that, but what
Speaker 1: we don't know is Rondel Moore and Zach Ertz. For example,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury saying today it'll be close quote unquote for
Speaker 1: week one, he said the same about Marcus Golden, although
Speaker 1: they do expect Marcus gold to be on the practice
Speaker 1: field to start next week and then you know, justin Pierre,
Speaker 1: they're gonna see where he's at on Monday as well.
Speaker 1: You're starting left guard. If not, Cody Ford figures to
Speaker 1: be the guy getting all the reps there and he
Speaker 1: has started experience obviously, but yeah, at least initially to
Speaker 1: start the season. Look, there's a lot of uncertainty on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, rob and that's not
Speaker 1: what you want to hear, right, you want to come
Speaker 1: out of out of the last preseason game with all right,
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy, we're you know, Chiefs are on the clock.
Speaker 1: We're getting ready for the Chiefs. Well, you know, when
Speaker 1: half our team is in the tub, it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of hard. But look, we got to get these We
Speaker 1: got a couple of weeks now, we got to get
Speaker 1: these guys healthy. Gotta get him ready to go. But again,
Speaker 1: Greg Torch and Andy Isabella, they're gonna get plenty of times,
Speaker 1: plenty of opportunities where their names being called, especially early
Speaker 1: because of the situation or potential situations in that wide
Speaker 1: receiver room. And you know, with five running backs on
Speaker 1: the roster. Maybe you come out and you run at
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five times against the Chiefs. Right you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't have to line twice about that ball control? Yeah, no, absolutely, Paul.
Speaker 1: You know I like it. And we know how important
Speaker 1: resigning James Connor was to Cliff Kings Barrett and he
Speaker 1: was under wraps the entire month August. See your bust out,
Speaker 1: James Connor. You mix in some Darryl Williams has got
Speaker 1: to be ultramotivated against his former team, and Eno Benjamin.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they come out and and
Speaker 1: it's a run heavy type. I can see it. Look
Speaker 1: that that's us, right, running back room is a strong room.
Speaker 1: Get the tight ends healthy, get them up there blocking.
Speaker 1: Let's run the ball against Kansas City. Episode thirty eight
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Speaker 1: All right, that d line room, Like, who's the biggest ham, right?
Speaker 1: I mean what Rashard Lawrence? Who does he want to
Speaker 1: sack the most when it comes to quarterback? All next
Speaker 1: on the Big Red Rage, give the anchors off the
Speaker 1: right side, nowhere to go, brought down in the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Lawrence was there first, Chard Lawrence coming down
Speaker 1: the line. That kid has got a future for an
Speaker 1: and Allen under center, turn give and into the backfield
Speaker 1: and poring down the running back for a big losses
Speaker 1: Rashard Lawrence. How about that tackle for loss? You know,
Speaker 1: players like to say that the most football play in
Speaker 1: football is the kickoff, as we say, welcome back in
Speaker 1: here to the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert Paul Kelvici. And can we say that the
Speaker 1: most football player in football is the nose tackle? Can I?
Speaker 1: Because if you want to know if you're really in
Speaker 1: a game of football, I mean full pads, full contact,
Speaker 1: full anarchy, I mean, just play nose tackle. Am I
Speaker 1: wrong on that? And I think we need a nose
Speaker 1: tackle to comment on that? And hence our guest tonight,
Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence, Arizona Cardinals. What do you think real football
Speaker 1: does it start at the point of attack? Richard? It
Speaker 1: starts at the point of attack, nose tackle. You're getting
Speaker 1: touched every single play, So if you think you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get touched, you're playing the wrong sport. Every play
Speaker 1: you are touching somebody and hidding somebody. What PERCENTEA plays
Speaker 1: do you get touched by multiple guys? Double teams are
Speaker 1: more ninety percent at a time? Seriously, yes. So if
Speaker 1: you get if you get a single one on one
Speaker 1: monoe mono block, you're like, this is a good this
Speaker 1: is a good rep right here. Gotta make the play.
Speaker 1: You gotta make the play. See how are you playing?
Speaker 1: You just went through camp. Okay. Some of the best
Speaker 1: words guys will ever hear is okay, we just broke camp.
Speaker 1: So you're done regular season? Around the corner, I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you feel? Where do you think your game?
Speaker 1: I feel good? Feel good. It was a successful training camp,
Speaker 1: stayed healthy as a collective group. I think that we
Speaker 1: made some strides. This is our I think, third year
Speaker 1: under coach Joseph's defense, and you know, we know what
Speaker 1: they expect now, so going into a casey we won.
Speaker 1: We know what they're gonna do, we know what the
Speaker 1: cause are gonna be. And it's a real good field
Speaker 1: just knowing, you know, having the same system for the
Speaker 1: last few years. How long did it take it? Truly
Speaker 1: now as you as you think back to to really
Speaker 1: know the defense, so you didn't have to think and
Speaker 1: you could truly just play. It took about a year
Speaker 1: to understand the ends and outs. The playbook is easy,
Speaker 1: but just knowing how to do your job is very key.
Speaker 1: Where to fit at and all those different things play
Speaker 1: into it. But it took about a year to really
Speaker 1: understand the full concept of their defense. If you were
Speaker 1: talking to a rookie, you know, one of the young guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Manny Jones during camp, what have you
Speaker 1: learned about the NFL that maybe you imparted to him?
Speaker 1: Is there anything in particular one or two just sort
Speaker 1: of bullet points, like, look, it took me a while,
Speaker 1: but I learned a B and c about this NFL
Speaker 1: game that you'd be wise to keep in mind. Number One,
Speaker 1: take care of your body. That's a big thing that
Speaker 1: the first couple of years I've kind of struggled with
Speaker 1: with some little nagging injuries. But number one, take care
Speaker 1: of your body. And number two, they watch everything you do,
Speaker 1: which is a good thing because you're held at a
Speaker 1: higher standard from college going into the next level. So
Speaker 1: did you train any differently knowing that you've been you know,
Speaker 1: plagued and nagged by some of the injuries the first
Speaker 1: two years. He taking a different approach. Did Buddy Morris
Speaker 1: sit you down? Do you guys come up with a
Speaker 1: different strategy? What was the approach? It was a little
Speaker 1: bit of Buddy Morris and also just knowing that what
Speaker 1: were some of the weaknesses that I had in my
Speaker 1: body that I want to take care of. So I
Speaker 1: just focused on those things going into the off season
Speaker 1: and it's really helped out because if you are healthy,
Speaker 1: and Richard Lawrence is our guest, what is your confidence
Speaker 1: level you can be a top notch nose tackle this league.
Speaker 1: I think it's very high. I think that when healthy,
Speaker 1: I put on some great things on tape, but the
Speaker 1: number one thing is just being able to be available
Speaker 1: weekend a week out. What do you hope you've showed
Speaker 1: your new defensive line coach Matt Burke in terms of
Speaker 1: your game and your skill set? What do you hope
Speaker 1: you've already shown him? I want to show him that
Speaker 1: I'm a physical player and I loved getting off of
Speaker 1: the ball. Coach Burke is all about getting up the field,
Speaker 1: getting off of blocks and penetrating. So I just want
Speaker 1: to show him that I am a physical guy in
Speaker 1: a run game, and I can also give him some
Speaker 1: push on the path. You know, you talk about getting
Speaker 1: off the ball, and when we're watching camp, we're watching
Speaker 1: some of the drills with the guys who played the
Speaker 1: game right when I'm standing in there with a Kyle
Speaker 1: van and Bosch or Rob Frederickson from from our crew
Speaker 1: played NFL defense, you know for twenty plus years combined.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing they site about your game is
Speaker 1: your get off, your explosion. Where does that come from?
Speaker 1: And how much of that is just God given? How
Speaker 1: much of that have you just trained over the years.
Speaker 1: I think some of it is God given, but it's
Speaker 1: also been still in me all the way from my
Speaker 1: days at LSU. Coacho used to have a saying tick
Speaker 1: tick tick, get off, So I just think about that
Speaker 1: all the time. It's been something that I'd work on
Speaker 1: relentlessly to just have good good off because if you're
Speaker 1: a nose tackle, to what degree is at the key
Speaker 1: to get that first step and get underneath or inside
Speaker 1: a guy? It's definitely important because these guys hands and
Speaker 1: feet are so good at this level that you have
Speaker 1: to be able to get in and get on your
Speaker 1: target because if you don't, then that's where your eyes
Speaker 1: can start playing tricks on you and you can be
Speaker 1: reading different keys. But when you're toned in on your key,
Speaker 1: that really does help. Hey, Richard Lawrence is our guest
Speaker 1: here in the Big Red Rage for center by santan
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. You met the media a handful of
Speaker 1: times last year, and inevitably it came around to run defense.
Speaker 1: Let's sit zoom out to the front seven and look,
Speaker 1: there were times when it was really good and there
Speaker 1: were times where it was a liability the run defense
Speaker 1: last year, and you were pretty honest with the media
Speaker 1: as you look back, what was the difference? What has
Speaker 1: to change this season to get that sort of consistency
Speaker 1: in stopping the run. I think that last year, in
Speaker 1: the first couple of years, it's never been a physical thing.
Speaker 1: It's always been just a run hidden for twenty yards,
Speaker 1: thirty yards and you can do good the whole game,
Speaker 1: but if a run pops, that can mess up your
Speaker 1: yard average. And I think that we're a defense now
Speaker 1: that that was number one priority in camp was just
Speaker 1: stopping the run. I think we did a pre decent
Speaker 1: job in the preseason of when we played Cincinnati in
Speaker 1: Baltimore of stopping to run. A couple of runs got out.
Speaker 1: But the number one thing for us to be successful,
Speaker 1: it's going to be to stop the run. Because when
Speaker 1: you guys give up a chunk run, I see it
Speaker 1: as a sideline reporter. I mean that triggers guys, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys come back to the bench. You're hot,
Speaker 1: right for sure? For sure, it's definitely something that you
Speaker 1: don't like to happen. Matt Burke, your new d line coach.
Speaker 1: You know he'll give us a scouting report on you
Speaker 1: give us a scouting report on him. What does he
Speaker 1: try to institute in that room? So far? Man, he
Speaker 1: is all about get off. That is his number one
Speaker 1: thing that he preaches day in and day out, is
Speaker 1: just getting off of the ball. Attack, react. You know,
Speaker 1: before you react to anything, your first two steps have
Speaker 1: to be in the game, in the ground. So I
Speaker 1: think that coach Burke is going to do wonders for
Speaker 1: our unit. We're a younger group excluding JJ, who's been
Speaker 1: there a while, but we're a young group that's hungry
Speaker 1: and we want to play relentless. JJ Watt was healthy
Speaker 1: the first seven games. The last year, it just seemed
Speaker 1: to be a different defense when ninety nine was there.
Speaker 1: The whole JJ Watt effect that people talk about, true
Speaker 1: or false? True. I think that some of the things
Speaker 1: that he does you just can't coach. And when you
Speaker 1: have a player that's an X factor like that, you
Speaker 1: kind of let him do his thing and everybody else play,
Speaker 1: you know, off of themselves. So he is a hell
Speaker 1: of a player, and I'm excited for him. If I
Speaker 1: walk into a biker bar with you six two three
Speaker 1: o eight, that's a little stand I feel a little tougher,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna admit. Okay, how about when you guys walk
Speaker 1: into a game with J. J. Watt, three time NFL
Speaker 1: defensive player there, Does it bolster the confidence even just
Speaker 1: a little bit? Oh? It gives you the ultimate confidence.
Speaker 1: He is. I mean, what he does day in and
Speaker 1: day out on the field's second to none. And it
Speaker 1: makes my job easier and makes a guy like Zach
Speaker 1: Allen or Lecky's job easier. Zach Allen speaking up, We
Speaker 1: had him on the Big Red Rage recently called Lecky
Speaker 1: and I quote three hundred pounds of Torso does does
Speaker 1: Lecky get a hard time in the d line room?
Speaker 1: I say he's three hundred pounds of calves because his
Speaker 1: calf muscles are. He's just a large man. He is
Speaker 1: a very large Yes, he's a dense human. There's just
Speaker 1: no doubt who gets the who gets the most heat
Speaker 1: in the D line room, and who's flipping guys the
Speaker 1: most stuff in the D line? Who'd have to keep
Speaker 1: your head on a swivel four or he might be
Speaker 1: giving you the business. Um, I would probably have to say,
Speaker 1: Michael Dogby real yes, okay, wow, I have to talk
Speaker 1: to Dogby about that? Okay? And what do they give
Speaker 1: you a hard time about? Raschard? Come on? You know
Speaker 1: if if they're giving you a hard time, you're a
Speaker 1: popular guy. So what do you hear it about? Um?
Speaker 1: They know I love to eat. They know that is
Speaker 1: my weakness, anything food related. They always asked me to
Speaker 1: questions because I can give you an answer. What's your
Speaker 1: biggest liability? What's your biggest weakness? Milkshakes? Milkshakes? Oh boy?
Speaker 1: Or salts of caral? I mean you're burning a lot
Speaker 1: of calories. You can afford a milkshake here, there, can't you?
Speaker 1: For sure? For sure, definitely got to put that in
Speaker 1: the cheap mile that's good. What's in the D line fridge?
Speaker 1: In the D line room? Come on, you guys got
Speaker 1: to have a fridge. What's itto stocked with? Oh? Got gatorades, waters,
Speaker 1: coconut water. M We had a whole snack room set
Speaker 1: up that Manny Jones put together with rice, crispy tre eats,
Speaker 1: fruit snacks. We had a bunch of things. He was
Speaker 1: a precocious rookie. Wasn't here he knew how to go
Speaker 1: about it. Oh? Yeah, he was on his stuff on
Speaker 1: end off the field. How was his Kyler impersonation? By
Speaker 1: the way, we've got various reports and reviews. Would you
Speaker 1: think of Manny jones Kyler impersonation? I think that it
Speaker 1: was very good, but very dragged out. If he would
Speaker 1: have just kept it short and simple, yeah, it would
Speaker 1: have been good. Less is more, Okay. As we wrap
Speaker 1: it up here with the Chard Lawrence in the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage, tell us about this defense just in general?
Speaker 1: What do you see? What do you know that maybe
Speaker 1: we're going to find out about this defense that this
Speaker 1: defense has a good confidence building in the fact that
Speaker 1: we are confident in the scheme that we're being asked
Speaker 1: to do. We're also we're experienced now with playing in
Speaker 1: the scheme for the same for a couple of years now.
Speaker 1: So I think that this defense has ultimate confidence and
Speaker 1: being able to stop anybody. I asked my j Sanders,
Speaker 1: is there a quarterback in this league that you would
Speaker 1: really like to sack? I didn't even finish the question,
Speaker 1: and he said, Tom Brady, how about you? And where
Speaker 1: would Patrick Mahomes rate on that the team you open with?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, definitely would love to get Tom Brady. But
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, man super Bowl champion, Hell of a player
Speaker 1: that would be upon my list too. It's a daunting task,
Speaker 1: isn't it open against Patrick Mahomes? Oh? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he's I don't know if you've seen his numbers in
Speaker 1: week one of a regular season in his career, He's
Speaker 1: four and oh with thirteen touchdown passes and zero interceptions,
Speaker 1: with a passer rating of like one thirty four. And
Speaker 1: then you guys opened last year obviously with the jack
Speaker 1: stomping at Tennessee. I mean, what do you make Just
Speaker 1: give me an early Scotter report read on this game?
Speaker 1: What are you expecting? What sort of game? Well, it
Speaker 1: started to end with Patrick Mahomes. He's what makes the
Speaker 1: engine goes, So it's going to be imperative for us
Speaker 1: to be able to rush for and bring him down.
Speaker 1: We know that he is going to get out of
Speaker 1: the pocket a little bit and nets where he can
Speaker 1: hurt us. But we have to be able to get
Speaker 1: pressure on him early because the offense starts and ends
Speaker 1: with him and minus Chandler Jones. This year, you guys
Speaker 1: got to get that interior pass rush right for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure, I think that we've got some young guys
Speaker 1: that are hungry, um, but we are gonna miss chain
Speaker 1: and we have to be able to get after the quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 1: what kind of milkshaker was it? Again? If guys want
Speaker 1: to get on your good side, what kind of milkshake
Speaker 1: had they bringing you? In? Kream? Okay, I'll pass that
Speaker 1: along to some of the young guys. Okay, appreciate that.
Speaker 1: All right, Richard Lawrence our guest here on the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage once again. I mean, the most football player
Speaker 1: in football has to be the nose tackle. We continue
Speaker 1: right after this deep in the pocket, let's three von Mullets.
Speaker 1: That's incredible play by balling. What athleticism to get around
Speaker 1: and bring that ball in thirty Chin drop us further
Speaker 1: fours down, pick off. I'm law and he's still running
Speaker 1: picks for a territory and out abounds. Darn looking right. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was incredible play by Trey von muddling in tight coverage,
Speaker 1: just snatched it out of the air. That's the newest Cardinals.
Speaker 1: That also means the Cardinals now have five of the
Speaker 1: top forty picks from the two thousand nineteen draft currently
Speaker 1: on the roster. Kyler Murray, Hollywood Brown Byron Murphy, Cody
Speaker 1: Ford and Trey von Mullen pick number forty in the
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen draft, one of a pair of two
Speaker 1: new cornerbacks on the twenty twenty two Cardinals. It is
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 1: We are santan Ford, Paul Calvc, Rob Frederickson filling in
Speaker 1: for Ron Wolfley. And before we get to the whole
Speaker 1: cornerback room, the biggest need perhaps by far on this roster,
Speaker 1: maybe just some takeaways real quick, Rob from what you
Speaker 1: heard from Richard Lawrence. And how about him saying that
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time playing nose tackle he faces
Speaker 1: a team or triple team block. I mean that is
Speaker 1: not an easy position to play. I agree with you, Paul.
Speaker 1: Nose tackle is football, right, And I mean when I played,
Speaker 1: it was defensive tackle. Now it's nose tackle. You see,
Speaker 1: it's making a comeback. It's kind of like the fullback wolf.
Speaker 1: Wolf will get all excited. But um, you know Rashad's
Speaker 1: he sounds like a guy that's got his head screwed
Speaker 1: on straight. Um. I love his enthusiasm for the game
Speaker 1: and for his teammates. Um, you know, if we can
Speaker 1: keep these guys healthy on the defensive line, and my
Speaker 1: big thing is keep those offensive linemen off of our
Speaker 1: best athletes, which are two inside linebackers, Davan Collins and
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. Whether you have to hold the offensive linemen
Speaker 1: or do whatever you gotta do, keep them off of
Speaker 1: those two and allow them to run and make plays.
Speaker 1: It's not glamorous, right, you know, it's a dirty job
Speaker 1: in there. But for me, you know, you that's the
Speaker 1: that's the that's still best way to ensure that you
Speaker 1: have a sound defense is when your inside linebackers are
Speaker 1: making the plays. Yeah, and I'll tell you you're right
Speaker 1: on that. I mean J J. Watt, we know what
Speaker 1: he did for the Cardinals defense in that seven and
Speaker 1: oz start before he had the season ending injury, at
Speaker 1: least until the playoffs. You know, Zach Allen was playing
Speaker 1: on one leg much a last season. He has looked
Speaker 1: great if those two can stay healthy. Rochard Lawrence, he's
Speaker 1: been nicked up quite a bit in his two years,
Speaker 1: but he hurt his confidence. If healthy, he feels like
Speaker 1: he can be one of the better nose tackles in
Speaker 1: this league. He feels like he's already proved that some
Speaker 1: of the things he's put on film. So okay, now
Speaker 1: you look at that, you're right. If you can be
Speaker 1: stout along that line of scrimmage, let your linebackers go
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline. And then, of course there's the cornerback room,
Speaker 1: the aforementioned cornerback room, and we know some of the
Speaker 1: struggles there. We know Antonio Hamilton, the uncertainty around his absence,
Speaker 1: and we'll get into that a little bit. But first off,
Speaker 1: the new guy who comes in, tray Von Mullen real
Speaker 1: quick six two two hundred. He comes out of Clemson
Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen wrapped. As we mentioned, he's about to
Speaker 1: turn twenty five. He's in the final year of his contract.
Speaker 1: He is ultra motivated and it doesn't earth that he
Speaker 1: comes from the ASC West where he has a career
Speaker 1: interception against Patrick Mahomes. He obviously played for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: He's gonna know Derek Carr in week number two. But
Speaker 1: just the ability now to bolster that cornerback room. You
Speaker 1: could sense the relief in Cliff Kingsbury talking to the
Speaker 1: media today. Rob. Yeah, and I don't look, I don't
Speaker 1: think Steve Kim has done you know. I'm sure there
Speaker 1: there'll be some more that that he's looking at and
Speaker 1: maybe a couple more that are added. But um, it
Speaker 1: was a great pick up for the Cardinals. Obviously a
Speaker 1: position of need. But I love treyvon size. I do.
Speaker 1: Uh to be six two, two hundred pounds at a
Speaker 1: cornerback and be able to run like that, um at
Speaker 1: that position to me is a big plus because if
Speaker 1: you can get physical, get hands on these wide receivers, um,
Speaker 1: you know he'd really and redirect him and get him
Speaker 1: off the timing of their routes. That that's half the
Speaker 1: battle right there, and so um, you know, i' I
Speaker 1: think it was a good pickup for the Cardinals, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to continue to be active in
Speaker 1: free agency. You got a figure he gets every shot
Speaker 1: to play the outside corner position as opposed to the
Speaker 1: other corner they claim from the Jets. Javelin Gidrey, he's
Speaker 1: five nine a buck ninety one, but he also ran
Speaker 1: a four to nine at the Combine twenty twenty undrafted guy,
Speaker 1: but he's been with the Jets last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Five starts in twenty eight career games. He excels in
Speaker 1: special teams as well, so he's been added to that
Speaker 1: cornerback room. In fact, here's Cliff Kingsbury talking about trayvon
Speaker 1: Mullen and Javelin Gidrey. We need a depth. I'm excited
Speaker 1: to have more bodies in there and see where we
Speaker 1: can we can use them. Yeah, how what's realistic? You
Speaker 1: heard Richard Lawrence say, you know, what a blessing it
Speaker 1: is that he's in the same system now his third year.
Speaker 1: What sort of degree of difficulty is there for those
Speaker 1: two corners to come in and have to do a
Speaker 1: speed learning job of advanced Joseph defense. It's it's very
Speaker 1: doable defensively. It's um it's just the terminology. But look,
Speaker 1: Cover two is covered two. Cover three is cover three
Speaker 1: man cover one. That's the same as Universal. So it's
Speaker 1: it's just getting down the terminology in terms of potentially
Speaker 1: when you have a bracket or when you have uh
Speaker 1: some help and knowing where the help is. Those will
Speaker 1: be the learning curve issues that I think they can
Speaker 1: resolve it pretty quick. But I love the name, right javelin? Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean, Paul, wasn't Weren't you the guy that measured
Speaker 1: how far the javelin win in high school? You were?
Speaker 1: You were out there and running around. That's good, trying
Speaker 1: not to get hit by one of them, that's right,
Speaker 1: that's right. I was. I was dodging the shot put
Speaker 1: on the disc and the javelin. You're right, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's how I worked on my agility in the field
Speaker 1: part of track and field. Okay, that's enough, Rob, enough
Speaker 1: of the reindeer games. But here's the thing with this,
Speaker 1: with this, with this room, and for everything that we're
Speaker 1: worried about when it comes to the cornerback spot, and sure,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of uncertainty, there's not a ton of death.
Speaker 1: I get it. Now, You've got a couple of new editions.
Speaker 1: If Isaiah Simmons is going to be a safety in
Speaker 1: coverage and he is. I mean, look, he just is.
Speaker 1: And I think in week one he even hinted that
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is going to be his assignment if a
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker and a Jalen Thompson have experienced in the
Speaker 1: slot as well. I just think you're going to see
Speaker 1: a lot of different combinations from Vans Joseph, and you know,
Speaker 1: you just have to make sure that that cornerback room
Speaker 1: is in a complete liability. Obviously you can count on
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, but Antonio Hamilton beating out Marco Wilson as
Speaker 1: the other starting corner before all of his sun Antonio
Speaker 1: Hamilton has gone missing from Cardinals camp and for the
Speaker 1: team for something that no one really knows, at least
Speaker 1: in the media side, what's going on. In fact, Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury he was asked about it on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say about Antonio Hamilton. Disappointed
Speaker 1: for him, just the journey that he's had and how
Speaker 1: he's worked and the level that he was playing at.
Speaker 1: You hate to see that. You hope he can stay
Speaker 1: involved in and come back and not miss a beat,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think more than anything, it's disappointing for
Speaker 1: him just because he had earned a starting role at
Speaker 1: that position after basically bounced around a bunch of teams.
Speaker 1: And so hopefully he's back sooner in than later. But
Speaker 1: we'll see, yeah, one week, one month more. We have
Speaker 1: no idea and just hope for all the best. Antonio Hamilton,
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. So here's Marco Wilson, and we saw his
Speaker 1: start to last year and Rob you remember we talk
Speaker 1: on the pregame show in October and November he could
Speaker 1: be a legitimate Rookie of the Year candidate. Marco Wilson
Speaker 1: as a starter came in and he grabbed his starting
Speaker 1: job as a fourth round rookie with four years of
Speaker 1: plane experience at Florida. And then whether it was the
Speaker 1: rookie wall, which he admitted might have been a factor,
Speaker 1: or otherwise, he just all of a sudden, for the
Speaker 1: first time in Cliff Kingsbury's tenure as head coach, he
Speaker 1: was getting called out by the head coach in the media.
Speaker 1: So there's no doubt that he's in this spotlight, is
Speaker 1: he not? Marco Wilson And they're counting on him now
Speaker 1: more than ever, Yeah, well they didna need to put
Speaker 1: all that side, because you're right, they need him and
Speaker 1: they need him now. And yes, last year, I do
Speaker 1: think he hit the rookie wall, and it is a
Speaker 1: real thing. But I also think he hit the Cardinals wall,
Speaker 1: just like everybody else on the team. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: nobody was out there winning any gold medals at the
Speaker 1: end of the season. So you know, it's it's when
Speaker 1: when when things are kind of going south, it's easy
Speaker 1: to get caught up in that, whether whether you know
Speaker 1: you realize it or not. And you know, and I
Speaker 1: think there's there's some inertia behind that, and and Marco
Speaker 1: Wilson his play kind of followed that followed everybody else
Speaker 1: for that matter. So yeah, they're going to count on
Speaker 1: him a lot, especially early, and and it's it's a
Speaker 1: position of very weak right now in terms of just
Speaker 1: depth and and so Marco Wilson's going to have to
Speaker 1: play and and be a be a stud out there
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. An Tonio Hamilton don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with him, but um, if it's excuse, it's nobody's business.
Speaker 1: And and you know, yeah, we hope the best for
Speaker 1: him and hope he gets back um as soon as
Speaker 1: Paul Well, but you know, if it's however long it is,
Speaker 1: it is, and we just gotta have guys that's around
Speaker 1: him that step up. People ask me about the defense,
Speaker 1: Here's what I tell them. I say, look, the starting eleven,
Speaker 1: the first twelve, thirteen, fifteen players, you're all good. Let's evolve, right,
Speaker 1: Cardinals thinking they're confident. But then if you start getting
Speaker 1: injuries dot dot dot ay, that's where the concern might
Speaker 1: creep in. Yeah, no, I agree, It's it's just then, um,
Speaker 1: you know, at various positions on his team, and outside
Speaker 1: linebacker is going to be interesting for me just to
Speaker 1: see how how we replace Chandler Jones and how we
Speaker 1: come up with some pressure on the quarterback. That's going
Speaker 1: to be another position that I'm gonna be watching closely
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. You know what, we may have gotten
Speaker 1: a few answers from Clip kings Bearer on that front earlier. Today.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that outside linebacker, the pass rush, inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: where the Cardinals stand there the surprise in the final
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Speaker 1: we continue with a Big Red Rage presented by santan
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, how our run
Speaker 1: game looks. They have an eye formation, fullback checks into
Speaker 1: the game and a give to the tailback. Haskins trying
Speaker 1: the right side, nothing doing. He is stacked up and
Speaker 1: thrown down. Zaban Collins in the backfield, a big tackle
Speaker 1: for loss and he gets up to celebrate. How about
Speaker 1: Zamon Collins? After the game that was Tennessee. We had
Speaker 1: a chance to interview Cliff Kingsbury right after the game
Speaker 1: where Zavan Collins saw a few series and Cliff Kingsbury saying,
Speaker 1: and I quote the reading react is by far where
Speaker 1: I've seen the biggest improvement end quote, although he does
Speaker 1: still call Zavan Collins a quote work in progress. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna find out how much we'll see of that
Speaker 1: work in the regular season. It's around the corner. We're
Speaker 1: wrapping up this edition of the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 1: by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Satan for Ford,
Speaker 1: Paul Calves, and a guy who spent a decade in
Speaker 1: a linebacker room in the NFL, Rob Burtocks and what'd
Speaker 1: you see out of the first rounder last year Zaven
Speaker 1: Collins this preseason? Well, there's a lot to like, especially
Speaker 1: last week. I mean, Zaven that that's what you if
Speaker 1: you can bottle that up just uh, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: When when he knows where he's going, uh, he gets
Speaker 1: there with with some anger and some bad intentions. And
Speaker 1: you saw that, um during that game he blew up
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle and made the play for a tackle
Speaker 1: for loss. So you know, Zaven Collins, It's it's always
Speaker 1: just kind of from this point back looking back, it's
Speaker 1: it's just been a recognition and an understanding and just
Speaker 1: kind of deciphering all the information pre snap. It's that's
Speaker 1: been I think his biggest issue just information overload. And
Speaker 1: if he can just kind of quiet his mind, um
Speaker 1: and just calm himself and just trust what he sees
Speaker 1: and and and play the position, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a very successful career. Yeah. Anything, he probably overthinks it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you talk to I mean, he's a very bright guy,
Speaker 1: valedictorian of his high school class, so that's not an issue.
Speaker 1: But he also didn't get a lot of defensive snaps,
Speaker 1: at least not an inside linebacker year ago. When we
Speaker 1: did see him the latter half of last season, he
Speaker 1: was on the edge quite often, and so I would
Speaker 1: imagine the big question for Vance Joseph and Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: is Okay, he needs on the job training, but can
Speaker 1: we afford that? Okay, that's risky, is it not, Especially
Speaker 1: when you're going against the likes of Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 1: Derek Carr and Matthew Stafford to start the season. They're
Speaker 1: always looking for an advantage in terms of matchups, and
Speaker 1: they'll always target an inexperienced guy. Yeah, there's there's no
Speaker 1: learning on the job, you know. If look, if Zaven
Speaker 1: Collins continues to struggle, he's just not going to be
Speaker 1: out there. And there's enough players, there's enough talent at
Speaker 1: that inside linebacker position to fill that void. Look at
Speaker 1: Nick vigil As, Ezekiel Turner, Tanner Vlehill. Those guys can
Speaker 1: all play. I think Zaven Collins will get it, and
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a very good year. But
Speaker 1: on the off chance that he doesn't, you know, my
Speaker 1: level of concern is is not huge when it comes
Speaker 1: to that position, because I think there's enough guys, enough
Speaker 1: depth at that position to really compensate if there is
Speaker 1: a falloff. Yeah, there was another name in that inside
Speaker 1: linebacker room, because there's six on the roster right now,
Speaker 1: Ben Nieman, who who was a surprise he made it,
Speaker 1: and Chandler Wooten is on the practice squad maybe because
Speaker 1: they could maybe because they figured, okay, they undrafted rookie Wooten,
Speaker 1: we could get to the practice squad. Maybe we couldn't
Speaker 1: get Nieman there. So that was interesting. It was also
Speaker 1: interesting to hear Cliff Kingsbury today throws Damon Collins into
Speaker 1: his answer about outside linebackers and pass rush. So it
Speaker 1: makes you wonder if twenty five is going to be
Speaker 1: on the edge a little bit. We know in that
Speaker 1: spot that Devon Kennard was one of the surprise cuts.
Speaker 1: Obviously he was released, and so now you're going with
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys, Victor de mu Kage, who
Speaker 1: was probably the most improved player in camp all least
Speaker 1: based on what I saw the two third round rookies,
Speaker 1: camera Thomas my J Sanders, and then of course there's
Speaker 1: Dennis Gardack, who very much looks like twenty twenty Dennis
Speaker 1: Gardeck as opposed to last season, coming off the acl.
Speaker 1: In fact, Cliff Kingsbury asked today if Guardack the Barbarian
Speaker 1: can get to double digit sacks this year the last
Speaker 1: time that he was really healthy. I mean he with
Speaker 1: a number of snaps that he had. The production was
Speaker 1: through the roof. And from when I've seen going against
Speaker 1: our guys and Tennessee, he's got a chance to make
Speaker 1: some noise. He looked good against Tennessee in Nashville. He
Speaker 1: really did. He was a problem for all out of
Speaker 1: those offensive linemen. Yeah, I think a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago Dennis Gardeck kind of caught a lot of offenses
Speaker 1: and a lot of offensive tackles by surprise, right. They
Speaker 1: didn't know who this guy was, some special teams guy
Speaker 1: coming out here to rush outside. They kind of laughed
Speaker 1: at it, scoffed at it. I think that maybe even insulted.
Speaker 1: But when he blew right by him or got underneath
Speaker 1: their chin and was in the quarterback's face, they weren't laughing.
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously he got injured last year. That
Speaker 1: was unfortunate. But you know, I don't think us Gardeck
Speaker 1: is going to surprise anyone anymore. I think of the
Speaker 1: words out on him, Um, and kudos to him for
Speaker 1: coming back and just being the warrior that he is.
Speaker 1: And he can still get underneath people, he can still
Speaker 1: run around people. He's he's a guy that just has
Speaker 1: an unstoppable motor and I'm excited to watch him play. Um.
Speaker 1: You know it's time too for these rookies to step up,
Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas and and my j Sanders. Um, put your
Speaker 1: hand in dirt and come off the edge or stand
Speaker 1: up however you want to do it. But you know,
Speaker 1: we drafted these guys high for a reason and it's
Speaker 1: time for them to contribute and to put their mark
Speaker 1: down on this. And hey, we might even see forty
Speaker 1: four starting next week. Cliff Kingsbury saying today about Marcus
Speaker 1: Golden quote, you'd like to get junk going. He calls
Speaker 1: in the bell cow the outside Linepackers hinted he might
Speaker 1: be on the practice field starting next week, the whole
Speaker 1: tell injury thing, so we'll see about that. We also
Speaker 1: heard from Isaiah Simmons that he'll be wearing the green die.
Speaker 1: He'll be relaying the defensive play calls and advanced Joseph.
Speaker 1: Here's Isaiah Simmons, I think green. Uh yeah, yeah, and um,
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about not hearing the call
Speaker 1: from anyone or anything of that sort. So maybe in
Speaker 1: the past, you know, we've had some times where guys
Speaker 1: aren't getting the call, Um, but me being like involved
Speaker 1: with the secondary, UM, I realized the stress of getting
Speaker 1: the call to everybody, especially the far side corner. So
Speaker 1: I feel like ever since then, you know, ever since
Speaker 1: I've started calling it, we've been able to get the
Speaker 1: call out and getting lined up. What do you make
Speaker 1: of that, Rob, Yeah, he's right. There's a challenge, especially
Speaker 1: with the secondary in terms of getting the play calls
Speaker 1: in and getting it accurately communicated across the entire field,
Speaker 1: especially if the play before it was a deep pasted
Speaker 1: on the far sideline. M Yeah, those wide receivers could
Speaker 1: just you know, step out of bounds and a new
Speaker 1: sub come in. But for the for the cornerback, he's
Speaker 1: got to run all the way back, and especially if
Speaker 1: they're going no dle, he's got to run all the
Speaker 1: way back, try to get somewhere near a huddle and
Speaker 1: get the play call and get it accurately communicated, and
Speaker 1: then go back out and line up. So it can
Speaker 1: be a challenge. Um, you know, look hand signals and
Speaker 1: and uh risk guards with with the with the playing
Speaker 1: calls and with numbers and for the play calls. That's
Speaker 1: an easy fix, um that that we can all get
Speaker 1: on the same page without having to huddle up. Here's
Speaker 1: the question I want to ask, NaN's Joseph, who's gonna
Speaker 1: make the checks? Who's going to make the adjustments? After
Speaker 1: you make the play call that's relayed in via the
Speaker 1: speaker in the in the helmet, then of course you
Speaker 1: know the offense comes out and they show a different
Speaker 1: look or there's an audible because obviously last year that
Speaker 1: was Jordan Hicks, and remember Vans Joseph talking in detail
Speaker 1: about how it would be a cat and mouse game
Speaker 1: between the quarterback and Jordan Hicks and how he would
Speaker 1: make two or three checks did the original play calls.
Speaker 1: So I wonder who that might be in that capacity
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I mean for checks to go to
Speaker 1: the defensive line in terms of alignment, in terms of
Speaker 1: games that they're running that may change with motion or shifting.
Speaker 1: That's got to be the middle linebacker, whether it's in
Speaker 1: a traditional personnel or if it's Nickel or Dime whoever,
Speaker 1: that that MIC linebacker position is, that's got to be
Speaker 1: the person that makes the checks up front. And then
Speaker 1: your safety whoever, whoever your your safety is that typically
Speaker 1: makes those calls. They got to relay any coverage changes
Speaker 1: in the back end, all right, So maybe a Buddha
Speaker 1: Baker or Jalen Thompson, a Nick Vigil, if he's your
Speaker 1: MIC backer, maybe he's saving Collins. So we'll see it's right.
Speaker 1: And it was funny because Isaiah Simmon's joked. He said
Speaker 1: that Vance Joseph looked him in the eye and said
Speaker 1: everything I say and that Mike, I need you to
Speaker 1: tell everybody, and then Isaiah Simmons and sometimes Vans Joseph
Speaker 1: will just keep talking all the way up to the
Speaker 1: fifteen second mark. So it's really tested his recall ability,
Speaker 1: you know, so special thanks Richard Lawrence, Rob Frederson, Thank
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