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Speaker 1: here to the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford

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Speaker 1: had him on the Big Red Rage recently called Lecky

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Speaker 1: and I quote three hundred pounds of Torso does does

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Speaker 1: Lecky get a hard time in the d line room?

428
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Speaker 1: I say he's three hundred pounds of calves because his

429
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Speaker 1: calf muscles are. He's just a large man. He is

430
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Speaker 1: a very large Yes, he's a dense human. There's just

431
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Speaker 1: no doubt who gets the who gets the most heat

432
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Speaker 1: in the D line room, and who's flipping guys the

433
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Speaker 1: most stuff in the D line? Who'd have to keep

434
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Speaker 1: your head on a swivel four or he might be

435
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Speaker 1: giving you the business. Um, I would probably have to say,

436
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Speaker 1: Michael Dogby real yes, okay, wow, I have to talk

437
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: to Dogby about that? Okay? And what do they give

438
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Speaker 1: you a hard time about? Raschard? Come on? You know

439
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: if if they're giving you a hard time, you're a

440
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Speaker 1: popular guy. So what do you hear it about? Um?

441
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Speaker 1: They know I love to eat. They know that is

442
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: my weakness, anything food related. They always asked me to

443
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Speaker 1: questions because I can give you an answer. What's your

444
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Speaker 1: biggest liability? What's your biggest weakness? Milkshakes? Milkshakes? Oh boy?

445
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Speaker 1: Or salts of caral? I mean you're burning a lot

446
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Speaker 1: of calories. You can afford a milkshake here, there, can't you?

447
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Speaker 1: For sure? For sure, definitely got to put that in

448
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Speaker 1: the cheap mile that's good. What's in the D line fridge?

449
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Speaker 1: In the D line room? Come on, you guys got

450
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Speaker 1: to have a fridge. What's itto stocked with? Oh? Got gatorades, waters,

451
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: coconut water. M We had a whole snack room set

452
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Speaker 1: up that Manny Jones put together with rice, crispy tre eats,

453
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Speaker 1: fruit snacks. We had a bunch of things. He was

454
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Speaker 1: a precocious rookie. Wasn't here he knew how to go

455
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Speaker 1: about it. Oh? Yeah, he was on his stuff on

456
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Speaker 1: end off the field. How was his Kyler impersonation? By

457
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Speaker 1: the way, we've got various reports and reviews. Would you

458
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: think of Manny jones Kyler impersonation? I think that it

459
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: was very good, but very dragged out. If he would

460
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Speaker 1: have just kept it short and simple, yeah, it would

461
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: have been good. Less is more, Okay. As we wrap

462
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Speaker 1: it up here with the Chard Lawrence in the Big

463
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Speaker 1: Red Rage, tell us about this defense just in general?

464
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Speaker 1: What do you see? What do you know that maybe

465
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Speaker 1: we're going to find out about this defense that this

466
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Speaker 1: defense has a good confidence building in the fact that

467
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Speaker 1: we are confident in the scheme that we're being asked

468
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Speaker 1: to do. We're also we're experienced now with playing in

469
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Speaker 1: the scheme for the same for a couple of years now.

470
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Speaker 1: So I think that this defense has ultimate confidence and

471
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Speaker 1: being able to stop anybody. I asked my j Sanders,

472
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Speaker 1: is there a quarterback in this league that you would

473
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Speaker 1: really like to sack? I didn't even finish the question,

474
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Speaker 1: and he said, Tom Brady, how about you? And where

475
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Speaker 1: would Patrick Mahomes rate on that the team you open with?

476
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, definitely would love to get Tom Brady. But

477
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, man super Bowl champion, Hell of a player

478
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Speaker 1: that would be upon my list too. It's a daunting task,

479
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Speaker 1: isn't it open against Patrick Mahomes? Oh? Yeah, I mean

480
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: he's I don't know if you've seen his numbers in

481
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Speaker 1: week one of a regular season in his career, He's

482
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Speaker 1: four and oh with thirteen touchdown passes and zero interceptions,

483
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Speaker 1: with a passer rating of like one thirty four. And

484
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: then you guys opened last year obviously with the jack

485
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Speaker 1: stomping at Tennessee. I mean, what do you make Just

486
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: give me an early Scotter report read on this game?

487
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Speaker 1: What are you expecting? What sort of game? Well, it

488
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Speaker 1: started to end with Patrick Mahomes. He's what makes the

489
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Speaker 1: engine goes, So it's going to be imperative for us

490
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Speaker 1: to be able to rush for and bring him down.

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Speaker 1: We know that he is going to get out of

492
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Speaker 1: the pocket a little bit and nets where he can

493
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Speaker 1: hurt us. But we have to be able to get

494
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Speaker 1: pressure on him early because the offense starts and ends

495
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Speaker 1: with him and minus Chandler Jones. This year, you guys

496
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Speaker 1: got to get that interior pass rush right for sure.

497
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Speaker 1: For sure, I think that we've got some young guys

498
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: that are hungry, um, but we are gonna miss chain

499
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: and we have to be able to get after the quarterback. Okay,

500
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: what kind of milkshaker was it? Again? If guys want

501
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Speaker 1: to get on your good side, what kind of milkshake

502
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Speaker 1: had they bringing you? In? Kream? Okay, I'll pass that

503
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Speaker 1: along to some of the young guys. Okay, appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Richard Lawrence our guest here on the Big

505
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Speaker 1: Red Rage once again. I mean, the most football player

506
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Speaker 1: in football has to be the nose tackle. We continue

507
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Speaker 1: right after this deep in the pocket, let's three von Mullets.

508
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: That's incredible play by balling. What athleticism to get around

509
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Speaker 1: and bring that ball in thirty Chin drop us further

510
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Speaker 1: fours down, pick off. I'm law and he's still running

511
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: picks for a territory and out abounds. Darn looking right. Yes,

512
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: he was incredible play by Trey von muddling in tight coverage,

513
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: just snatched it out of the air. That's the newest Cardinals.

514
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: That also means the Cardinals now have five of the

515
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Speaker 1: top forty picks from the two thousand nineteen draft currently

516
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Speaker 1: on the roster. Kyler Murray, Hollywood Brown Byron Murphy, Cody

517
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Speaker 1: Ford and Trey von Mullen pick number forty in the

518
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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen draft, one of a pair of two

519
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Speaker 1: new cornerbacks on the twenty twenty two Cardinals. It is

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Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

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Speaker 1: We are santan Ford, Paul Calvc, Rob Frederickson filling in

522
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Speaker 1: for Ron Wolfley. And before we get to the whole

523
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Speaker 1: cornerback room, the biggest need perhaps by far on this roster,

524
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Speaker 1: maybe just some takeaways real quick, Rob from what you

525
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Speaker 1: heard from Richard Lawrence. And how about him saying that

526
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Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time playing nose tackle he faces

527
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Speaker 1: a team or triple team block. I mean that is

528
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Speaker 1: not an easy position to play. I agree with you, Paul.

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Speaker 1: Nose tackle is football, right, And I mean when I played,

530
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: it was defensive tackle. Now it's nose tackle. You see,

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Speaker 1: it's making a comeback. It's kind of like the fullback wolf.

532
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: Wolf will get all excited. But um, you know Rashad's

533
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: he sounds like a guy that's got his head screwed

534
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Speaker 1: on straight. Um. I love his enthusiasm for the game

535
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: and for his teammates. Um, you know, if we can

536
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: keep these guys healthy on the defensive line, and my

537
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: big thing is keep those offensive linemen off of our

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Speaker 1: best athletes, which are two inside linebackers, Davan Collins and

539
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. Whether you have to hold the offensive linemen

540
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: or do whatever you gotta do, keep them off of

541
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Speaker 1: those two and allow them to run and make plays.

542
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: It's not glamorous, right, you know, it's a dirty job

543
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: in there. But for me, you know, you that's the

544
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: that's the that's still best way to ensure that you

545
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: have a sound defense is when your inside linebackers are

546
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Speaker 1: making the plays. Yeah, and I'll tell you you're right

547
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: on that. I mean J J. Watt, we know what

548
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: he did for the Cardinals defense in that seven and

549
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: oz start before he had the season ending injury, at

550
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: least until the playoffs. You know, Zach Allen was playing

551
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: on one leg much a last season. He has looked

552
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: great if those two can stay healthy. Rochard Lawrence, he's

553
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: been nicked up quite a bit in his two years,

554
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: but he hurt his confidence. If healthy, he feels like

555
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: he can be one of the better nose tackles in

556
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Speaker 1: this league. He feels like he's already proved that some

557
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: of the things he's put on film. So okay, now

558
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: you look at that, you're right. If you can be

559
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: stout along that line of scrimmage, let your linebackers go

560
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline. And then, of course there's the cornerback room,

561
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Speaker 1: the aforementioned cornerback room, and we know some of the

562
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Speaker 1: struggles there. We know Antonio Hamilton, the uncertainty around his absence,

563
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: and we'll get into that a little bit. But first off,

564
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Speaker 1: the new guy who comes in, tray Von Mullen real

565
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Speaker 1: quick six two two hundred. He comes out of Clemson

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Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen wrapped. As we mentioned, he's about to

567
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: turn twenty five. He's in the final year of his contract.

568
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: He is ultra motivated and it doesn't earth that he

569
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Speaker 1: comes from the ASC West where he has a career

570
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: interception against Patrick Mahomes. He obviously played for the Raiders.

571
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna know Derek Carr in week number two. But

572
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: just the ability now to bolster that cornerback room. You

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00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: could sense the relief in Cliff Kingsbury talking to the

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Speaker 1: media today. Rob. Yeah, and I don't look, I don't

575
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: think Steve Kim has done you know. I'm sure there

576
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: there'll be some more that that he's looking at and

577
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: maybe a couple more that are added. But um, it

578
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: was a great pick up for the Cardinals. Obviously a

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Speaker 1: position of need. But I love treyvon size. I do.

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00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Uh to be six two, two hundred pounds at a

581
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Speaker 1: cornerback and be able to run like that, um at

582
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: that position to me is a big plus because if

583
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: you can get physical, get hands on these wide receivers, um,

584
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: you know he'd really and redirect him and get him

585
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Speaker 1: off the timing of their routes. That that's half the

586
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: battle right there, and so um, you know, i' I

587
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: think it was a good pickup for the Cardinals, and

588
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to continue to be active in

589
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: free agency. You got a figure he gets every shot

590
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: to play the outside corner position as opposed to the

591
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: other corner they claim from the Jets. Javelin Gidrey, he's

592
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: five nine a buck ninety one, but he also ran

593
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Speaker 1: a four to nine at the Combine twenty twenty undrafted guy,

594
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: but he's been with the Jets last couple of years.

595
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: Five starts in twenty eight career games. He excels in

596
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: special teams as well, so he's been added to that

597
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: cornerback room. In fact, here's Cliff Kingsbury talking about trayvon

598
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Speaker 1: Mullen and Javelin Gidrey. We need a depth. I'm excited

599
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: to have more bodies in there and see where we

600
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: can we can use them. Yeah, how what's realistic? You

601
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: heard Richard Lawrence say, you know, what a blessing it

602
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: is that he's in the same system now his third year.

603
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: What sort of degree of difficulty is there for those

604
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: two corners to come in and have to do a

605
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: speed learning job of advanced Joseph defense. It's it's very

606
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: doable defensively. It's um it's just the terminology. But look,

607
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: Cover two is covered two. Cover three is cover three

608
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: man cover one. That's the same as Universal. So it's

609
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: it's just getting down the terminology in terms of potentially

610
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: when you have a bracket or when you have uh

611
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: some help and knowing where the help is. Those will

612
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: be the learning curve issues that I think they can

613
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: resolve it pretty quick. But I love the name, right javelin? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Paul, wasn't Weren't you the guy that measured

615
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: how far the javelin win in high school? You were?

616
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: You were out there and running around. That's good, trying

617
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: not to get hit by one of them, that's right,

618
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: that's right. I was. I was dodging the shot put

619
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Speaker 1: on the disc and the javelin. You're right, Yeah, that's

620
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Speaker 1: that's how I worked on my agility in the field

621
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Speaker 1: part of track and field. Okay, that's enough, Rob, enough

622
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: of the reindeer games. But here's the thing with this,

623
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Speaker 1: with this, with this room, and for everything that we're

624
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: worried about when it comes to the cornerback spot, and sure,

625
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of uncertainty, there's not a ton of death.

626
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 1: I get it. Now, You've got a couple of new editions.

627
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: If Isaiah Simmons is going to be a safety in

628
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: coverage and he is. I mean, look, he just is.

629
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Speaker 1: And I think in week one he even hinted that

630
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is going to be his assignment if a

631
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker and a Jalen Thompson have experienced in the

632
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: slot as well. I just think you're going to see

633
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: a lot of different combinations from Vans Joseph, and you know,

634
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: you just have to make sure that that cornerback room

635
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: is in a complete liability. Obviously you can count on

636
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Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, but Antonio Hamilton beating out Marco Wilson as

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Speaker 1: the other starting corner before all of his sun Antonio

638
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: Hamilton has gone missing from Cardinals camp and for the

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Speaker 1: team for something that no one really knows, at least

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Speaker 1: in the media side, what's going on. In fact, Cliff

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00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: Kingsbury he was asked about it on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say about Antonio Hamilton. Disappointed

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Speaker 1: for him, just the journey that he's had and how

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00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: he's worked and the level that he was playing at.

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Speaker 1: You hate to see that. You hope he can stay

646
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Speaker 1: involved in and come back and not miss a beat,

647
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think more than anything, it's disappointing for

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Speaker 1: him just because he had earned a starting role at

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Speaker 1: that position after basically bounced around a bunch of teams.

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Speaker 1: And so hopefully he's back sooner in than later. But

651
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Speaker 1: we'll see, yeah, one week, one month more. We have

652
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Speaker 1: no idea and just hope for all the best. Antonio Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. So here's Marco Wilson, and we saw his

654
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Speaker 1: start to last year and Rob you remember we talk

655
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: on the pregame show in October and November he could

656
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Speaker 1: be a legitimate Rookie of the Year candidate. Marco Wilson

657
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: as a starter came in and he grabbed his starting

658
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Speaker 1: job as a fourth round rookie with four years of

659
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Speaker 1: plane experience at Florida. And then whether it was the

660
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Speaker 1: rookie wall, which he admitted might have been a factor,

661
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Speaker 1: or otherwise, he just all of a sudden, for the

662
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Speaker 1: first time in Cliff Kingsbury's tenure as head coach, he

663
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Speaker 1: was getting called out by the head coach in the media.

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Speaker 1: So there's no doubt that he's in this spotlight, is

665
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Speaker 1: he not? Marco Wilson And they're counting on him now

666
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Speaker 1: more than ever, Yeah, well they didna need to put

667
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: all that side, because you're right, they need him and

668
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Speaker 1: they need him now. And yes, last year, I do

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Speaker 1: think he hit the rookie wall, and it is a

670
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: real thing. But I also think he hit the Cardinals wall,

671
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: just like everybody else on the team. Um, you know,

672
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: nobody was out there winning any gold medals at the

673
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: end of the season. So you know, it's it's when

674
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: when when things are kind of going south, it's easy

675
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: to get caught up in that, whether whether you know

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00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: you realize it or not. And you know, and I

677
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: think there's there's some inertia behind that, and and Marco

678
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Wilson his play kind of followed that followed everybody else

679
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: for that matter. So yeah, they're going to count on

680
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: him a lot, especially early, and and it's it's a

681
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: position of very weak right now in terms of just

682
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: depth and and so Marco Wilson's going to have to

683
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: play and and be a be a stud out there

684
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. An Tonio Hamilton don't know what's going

685
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: on with him, but um, if it's excuse, it's nobody's business.

686
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: And and you know, yeah, we hope the best for

687
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Speaker 1: him and hope he gets back um as soon as

688
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: Paul Well, but you know, if it's however long it is,

689
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: it is, and we just gotta have guys that's around

690
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Speaker 1: him that step up. People ask me about the defense,

691
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: Here's what I tell them. I say, look, the starting eleven,

692
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: the first twelve, thirteen, fifteen players, you're all good. Let's evolve, right,

693
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals thinking they're confident. But then if you start getting

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Speaker 1: injuries dot dot dot ay, that's where the concern might

695
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: creep in. Yeah, no, I agree, It's it's just then, um,

696
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Speaker 1: you know, at various positions on his team, and outside

697
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Speaker 1: linebacker is going to be interesting for me just to

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Speaker 1: see how how we replace Chandler Jones and how we

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Speaker 1: come up with some pressure on the quarterback. That's going

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Speaker 1: to be another position that I'm gonna be watching closely

701
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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. You know what, we may have gotten

702
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Speaker 1: a few answers from Clip kings Bearer on that front earlier. Today.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that outside linebacker, the pass rush, inside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: where the Cardinals stand there the surprise in the final

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Speaker 1: fifty three we'll talk about. Hey, Cardinals season tickets available

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Speaker 1: we continue with a Big Red Rage presented by santan

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Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, how our run

709
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: game looks. They have an eye formation, fullback checks into

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00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: the game and a give to the tailback. Haskins trying

711
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: the right side, nothing doing. He is stacked up and

712
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: thrown down. Zaban Collins in the backfield, a big tackle

713
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Speaker 1: for loss and he gets up to celebrate. How about

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Speaker 1: Zamon Collins? After the game that was Tennessee. We had

715
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Speaker 1: a chance to interview Cliff Kingsbury right after the game

716
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Speaker 1: where Zavan Collins saw a few series and Cliff Kingsbury saying,

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Speaker 1: and I quote the reading react is by far where

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Speaker 1: I've seen the biggest improvement end quote, although he does

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Speaker 1: still call Zavan Collins a quote work in progress. We're

720
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Speaker 1: just gonna find out how much we'll see of that

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Speaker 1: work in the regular season. It's around the corner. We're

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Speaker 1: wrapping up this edition of the Big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 1: by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Satan for Ford,

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Speaker 1: Paul Calves, and a guy who spent a decade in

725
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Speaker 1: a linebacker room in the NFL, Rob Burtocks and what'd

726
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: you see out of the first rounder last year Zaven

727
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Collins this preseason? Well, there's a lot to like, especially

728
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Speaker 1: last week. I mean, Zaven that that's what you if

729
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: you can bottle that up just uh, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: When when he knows where he's going, uh, he gets

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Speaker 1: there with with some anger and some bad intentions. And

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Speaker 1: you saw that, um during that game he blew up

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Speaker 1: the offensive tackle and made the play for a tackle

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Speaker 1: for loss. So you know, Zaven Collins, It's it's always

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Speaker 1: just kind of from this point back looking back, it's

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Speaker 1: it's just been a recognition and an understanding and just

737
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Speaker 1: kind of deciphering all the information pre snap. It's that's

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Speaker 1: been I think his biggest issue just information overload. And

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Speaker 1: if he can just kind of quiet his mind, um

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Speaker 1: and just calm himself and just trust what he sees

741
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: and and and play the position, I think he's gonna

742
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: have a very successful career. Yeah. Anything, he probably overthinks it. Yeah,

743
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: you talk to I mean, he's a very bright guy,

744
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: valedictorian of his high school class, so that's not an issue.

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Speaker 1: But he also didn't get a lot of defensive snaps,

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Speaker 1: at least not an inside linebacker year ago. When we

747
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: did see him the latter half of last season, he

748
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Speaker 1: was on the edge quite often, and so I would

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Speaker 1: imagine the big question for Vance Joseph and Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: is Okay, he needs on the job training, but can

751
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: we afford that? Okay, that's risky, is it not, Especially

752
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Speaker 1: when you're going against the likes of Patrick Mahomes and

753
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr and Matthew Stafford to start the season. They're

754
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: always looking for an advantage in terms of matchups, and

755
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: they'll always target an inexperienced guy. Yeah, there's there's no

756
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: learning on the job, you know. If look, if Zaven

757
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: Collins continues to struggle, he's just not going to be

758
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Speaker 1: out there. And there's enough players, there's enough talent at

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Speaker 1: that inside linebacker position to fill that void. Look at

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Speaker 1: Nick vigil As, Ezekiel Turner, Tanner Vlehill. Those guys can

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Speaker 1: all play. I think Zaven Collins will get it, and

762
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a very good year. But

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Speaker 1: on the off chance that he doesn't, you know, my

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00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: level of concern is is not huge when it comes

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00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: to that position, because I think there's enough guys, enough

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Speaker 1: depth at that position to really compensate if there is

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00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: a falloff. Yeah, there was another name in that inside

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Speaker 1: linebacker room, because there's six on the roster right now,

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Speaker 1: Ben Nieman, who who was a surprise he made it,

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Speaker 1: and Chandler Wooten is on the practice squad maybe because

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00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: they could maybe because they figured, okay, they undrafted rookie Wooten,

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Speaker 1: we could get to the practice squad. Maybe we couldn't

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Speaker 1: get Nieman there. So that was interesting. It was also

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Speaker 1: interesting to hear Cliff Kingsbury today throws Damon Collins into

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Speaker 1: his answer about outside linebackers and pass rush. So it

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Speaker 1: makes you wonder if twenty five is going to be

777
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: on the edge a little bit. We know in that

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Speaker 1: spot that Devon Kennard was one of the surprise cuts.

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00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: Obviously he was released, and so now you're going with

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Speaker 1: a lot of young guys, Victor de mu Kage, who

781
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Speaker 1: was probably the most improved player in camp all least

782
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Speaker 1: based on what I saw the two third round rookies,

783
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Speaker 1: camera Thomas my J Sanders, and then of course there's

784
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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardack, who very much looks like twenty twenty Dennis

785
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Speaker 1: Gardeck as opposed to last season, coming off the acl.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Cliff Kingsbury asked today if Guardack the Barbarian

787
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Speaker 1: can get to double digit sacks this year the last

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Speaker 1: time that he was really healthy. I mean he with

789
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Speaker 1: a number of snaps that he had. The production was

790
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: through the roof. And from when I've seen going against

791
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Speaker 1: our guys and Tennessee, he's got a chance to make

792
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Speaker 1: some noise. He looked good against Tennessee in Nashville. He

793
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Speaker 1: really did. He was a problem for all out of

794
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Speaker 1: those offensive linemen. Yeah, I think a couple of years

795
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Speaker 1: ago Dennis Gardeck kind of caught a lot of offenses

796
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Speaker 1: and a lot of offensive tackles by surprise, right. They

797
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: didn't know who this guy was, some special teams guy

798
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: coming out here to rush outside. They kind of laughed

799
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Speaker 1: at it, scoffed at it. I think that maybe even insulted.

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Speaker 1: But when he blew right by him or got underneath

801
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Speaker 1: their chin and was in the quarterback's face, they weren't laughing.

802
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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously he got injured last year. That

803
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: was unfortunate. But you know, I don't think us Gardeck

804
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: is going to surprise anyone anymore. I think of the

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00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: words out on him, Um, and kudos to him for

806
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: coming back and just being the warrior that he is.

807
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: And he can still get underneath people, he can still

808
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Speaker 1: run around people. He's he's a guy that just has

809
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: an unstoppable motor and I'm excited to watch him play. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know it's time too for these rookies to step up,

811
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas and and my j Sanders. Um, put your

812
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: hand in dirt and come off the edge or stand

813
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: up however you want to do it. But you know,

814
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: we drafted these guys high for a reason and it's

815
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: time for them to contribute and to put their mark

816
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: down on this. And hey, we might even see forty

817
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: four starting next week. Cliff Kingsbury saying today about Marcus

818
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: Golden quote, you'd like to get junk going. He calls

819
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: in the bell cow the outside Linepackers hinted he might

820
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: be on the practice field starting next week, the whole

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Speaker 1: tell injury thing, so we'll see about that. We also

822
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: heard from Isaiah Simmons that he'll be wearing the green die.

823
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Speaker 1: He'll be relaying the defensive play calls and advanced Joseph.

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Speaker 1: Here's Isaiah Simmons, I think green. Uh yeah, yeah, and um,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about not hearing the call

826
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Speaker 1: from anyone or anything of that sort. So maybe in

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Speaker 1: the past, you know, we've had some times where guys

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00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: aren't getting the call, Um, but me being like involved

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Speaker 1: with the secondary, UM, I realized the stress of getting

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Speaker 1: the call to everybody, especially the far side corner. So

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Speaker 1: I feel like ever since then, you know, ever since

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Speaker 1: I've started calling it, we've been able to get the

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Speaker 1: call out and getting lined up. What do you make

834
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Speaker 1: of that, Rob, Yeah, he's right. There's a challenge, especially

835
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Speaker 1: with the secondary in terms of getting the play calls

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Speaker 1: in and getting it accurately communicated across the entire field,

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Speaker 1: especially if the play before it was a deep pasted

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Speaker 1: on the far sideline. M Yeah, those wide receivers could

839
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: just you know, step out of bounds and a new

840
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: sub come in. But for the for the cornerback, he's

841
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: got to run all the way back, and especially if

842
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Speaker 1: they're going no dle, he's got to run all the

843
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: way back, try to get somewhere near a huddle and

844
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Speaker 1: get the play call and get it accurately communicated, and

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Speaker 1: then go back out and line up. So it can

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Speaker 1: be a challenge. Um, you know, look hand signals and

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Speaker 1: an easy fix, um that that we can all get

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Speaker 1: the question I want to ask, NaN's Joseph, who's gonna

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Speaker 1: make the checks? Who's going to make the adjustments? After

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Speaker 1: you make the play call that's relayed in via the

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Speaker 1: know the offense comes out and they show a different

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Speaker 1: look or there's an audible because obviously last year that

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Speaker 1: about how it would be a cat and mouse game

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Speaker 1: So I wonder who that might be in that capacity

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Speaker 1: the defensive line in terms of alignment, in terms of

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Speaker 1: games that they're running that may change with motion or shifting.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be the middle linebacker, whether it's in

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Speaker 1: a traditional personnel or if it's Nickel or Dime whoever,

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Speaker 1: that that MIC linebacker position is, that's got to be

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Speaker 1: the person that makes the checks up front. And then

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Speaker 1: your safety whoever, whoever your your safety is that typically

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Speaker 1: makes those calls. They got to relay any coverage changes

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Speaker 1: in the back end, all right, So maybe a Buddha

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Speaker 1: Baker or Jalen Thompson, a Nick Vigil, if he's your

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Speaker 1: MIC backer, maybe he's saving Collins. So we'll see it's right.

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Speaker 1: And it was funny because Isaiah Simmon's joked. He said

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Speaker 1: that Vance Joseph looked him in the eye and said

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Speaker 1: everything I say and that Mike, I need you to

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Speaker 1: tell everybody, and then Isaiah Simmons and sometimes Vans Joseph

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Speaker 1: will just keep talking all the way up to the

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Speaker 1: fifteen second mark. So it's really tested his recall ability,

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Speaker 1: you know, so special thanks Richard Lawrence, Rob Frederson, Thank

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