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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. John Murphy and Steve Tasker here

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Speaker 1: from Orchard Park, New York. Snowy cold, seventeen degrees at

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Speaker 1: and it's gee. I hope we're not in midwinter, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Got in troubled in Miami as he had an angry

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Speaker 1: outburst with a coach in Miami when he played with

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and played hard against the Dolphins when he

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Speaker 1: was with the Buffalo Bills and love playing in the

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Speaker 1: new airfield. We talked with We talked with Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: about that last week. He said, yeah, we need him

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Speaker 1: to play like that every week now home and away.

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Speaker 1: But Jordan Phillips has agreed to terms on a one

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Speaker 1: year deal. He's going to be on the show with

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Speaker 1: Us Live coming up today at one thirty. So that's good.

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Speaker 1: And look, we did this last week the week before Steve,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was last week. Might have been

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Speaker 1: the first day of the combine. We said, we asked

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Speaker 1: this question and maybe a Twitter poll. You didn't like that.

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Speaker 1: They either, What two specific things do you want the

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Speaker 1: Bills to do this offseason? My number one thing was

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Speaker 1: signed Jordan Phillips. Look, Kyle's gone. Kyle's gonna be with

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Speaker 1: us today by the way at one, but Kyle's gone.

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Speaker 1: They had a hole there at the three technique. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Phillips can step right in. I asked we should find

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Speaker 1: the sound about I asked Brandon Bean last week, you

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Speaker 1: view him as a starter. I mean to see jumping

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Speaker 1: and be the starter, and he said he's capable of

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Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, they still need help on the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: no question. But Jordan Phillips, who liked to play here

451
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Speaker 1: and played effectively here for the most part, I think

452
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Speaker 1: was an easy answer. They got him on a one

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Speaker 1: year deal, so that's kind of easy too. Jordan Phillips

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Speaker 1: has agreed to terms on a one year deal. I

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Speaker 1: think that's great. That was job one I thought going

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Speaker 1: into these next few weeks to get that guy locked

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Speaker 1: up and signed to a contract. And they did. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's interesting too. One year deal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I know it's it's a little bit cynical to

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Speaker 1: think this, but I always think you get the best

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Speaker 1: effort with a guy on a one year deal. They

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Speaker 1: the Bills have done that a lot more than this,

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Speaker 1: Brandon being Sean McDermot have done that. In my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if if I'm right or not. It

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Speaker 1: seems like there are a lot more guys who play

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Speaker 1: more prominent roles for the Bills every year that are

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Speaker 1: only on one year deals. And I think it's a

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Speaker 1: smart move because you know you're gonna have a chance

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Speaker 1: to sign guys off the free agent market, and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to replace those guys a year after.

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Speaker 1: But if they play well because they want to get

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Speaker 1: another contract, you know that you've always got that carrot

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Speaker 1: hanging out there for these guys that have signed these

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Speaker 1: one year deals. And I like the I like the strategy.

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Speaker 1: Some years you might it might be sickle where he

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Speaker 1: can't get any of those guys to sign back with you,

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Speaker 1: other somebody will sign them away from you or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But they've been really good at that. And I think

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, we saw it. You said it, Murphy, and

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Speaker 1: I echo your sentiment. When that guy turns it on,

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Speaker 1: he's a pretty good player. Yeah, he's a pretty good player.

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Speaker 1: And you can bet he's gonna have it turned on

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Speaker 1: all year this year on a one year deal. Pretty

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Speaker 1: young player too, right, I'm looking it up at these

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six I think, yeah, it's great. I mean

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Speaker 1: to get that guy and a one year deal. Do

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Speaker 1: you think it's not gonna be a ton of money

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Speaker 1: to get a guy who you know can play well?

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Speaker 1: Here he's twenty six, he'll turn twenty seven September twenty first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like this a lot and Look, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he's a Pro Bowl caliber guy. I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: a building block even guy, but he's what all the

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Speaker 1: holes they have, they just kind of plugged one of them,

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Speaker 1: at least rudimentarily plugged one of them. Right, They got

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, a guy who played at that position, who's

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Speaker 1: back may wind up as a starter. Maybe they can

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Speaker 1: get better, maybe they can draft better or get a

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Speaker 1: free agent better. But I think that's a really good

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Speaker 1: solid move by the Bills. And it's interesting too, because

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Speaker 1: when they sign these guys, it's not like a free

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Speaker 1: agent signing. It's more it's different than that. Mean than that,

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Speaker 1: we kind of trust Jordan Phillips, Right, you've seen him,

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Speaker 1: you know, he works in this system, he works in

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Speaker 1: the in the culture, he's highly motivated within the division

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Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and he's young. So I like these

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Speaker 1: kind of signings a lot. When they get a guy,

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Speaker 1: particularly a one year deal, and he's and he's within

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Speaker 1: the division, a guy you know, and I think that

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Speaker 1: the Bills listen, if he didn't fit in, if they

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Speaker 1: didn't like him, they wouldn't assigned him. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's a really good signing makes you feel really

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Speaker 1: good about their direction, their head and Jordan Phillips is

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the show with us at one thirty

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. In the meantime, we can continue to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Bills plans for this offseason and what's the

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Speaker 1: best way they can help Josh Allen the most of

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Speaker 1: this offseason. Got a call on the line from Burt

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Speaker 1: in East Or go ahead, Burt, you're on the air

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Speaker 1: with us. Yeah, Mine isn't about the Twitter poll you

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Speaker 1: have off. It's about the Alliance from American Football, all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. And I've been watching it this year and

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Speaker 1: I really liked their football. I like the pace of

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Speaker 1: the football. And do you think it's going to have

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Speaker 1: an impact when the NFL comes back on because they

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Speaker 1: play a much slower pace, they have many more ads.

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Speaker 1: People will get bored with the NFL game and comparatives

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Speaker 1: comparing it to the ALLI. I think you're right, Bert,

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Speaker 1: I think the NFL is learning from him. The play

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Speaker 1: clock and the fast pace of play really helps them.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. And when I watch them,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty competitive. It is very competitive football. I'd say

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Speaker 1: very competitive. You just don't see these stars and these big,

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Speaker 1: big time guys making these unbelievable plays. It's pretty grinded

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Speaker 1: out football in a lot of respects. But I do

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Speaker 1: agree with you that there are certain things that the

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Speaker 1: AAF does There's no question the NFL is going to

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Speaker 1: look at and say, man, we should get that into

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Speaker 1: our game. I don't think the NFL is interested in

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Speaker 1: having a two and a half hour game. I think

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Speaker 1: they're still interested in having the three hour window. But

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Speaker 1: there's no question that some of the tweaks that the

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Speaker 1: AAF has made to the game clock and to the

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Speaker 1: play clock have quickened the pace and people like it.

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Speaker 1: There's no question. Yeah, I mean I think about it. Well, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the league, the NFL, has deliberately encouraged the

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Speaker 1: Alliance to try some of these things as approving ground.

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Speaker 1: You know, see if this works, See if this shortens

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Speaker 1: the game. See if the sky reff or whatever they

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Speaker 1: call it, the super ref upstairs, See if that concept

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Speaker 1: will work. See if we need kickoffs maybe we don't. Uh,

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Speaker 1: See if we can eliminate two point conversions, maybe we can.

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Speaker 1: I do think that the NFL uses the Alliance already

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Speaker 1: as an approving ground, a testing ground for different ways

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Speaker 1: that they might want to they might want to change

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Speaker 1: their own rules. I hate I hate to say it,

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Speaker 1: m particularly in the last couple of years where they've

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Speaker 1: really tinkered with the kickoff rules, and then this past

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Speaker 1: year of course, when they changed it dratically. I don't

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Speaker 1: miss them. I hate to hear that. You know I

560
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Speaker 1: do too. I mean, I don't want to see it.

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Speaker 1: But even in the NFL where they still have kickoffs,

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Speaker 1: I miss I miss they need if they're gonna, if

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Speaker 1: they're gonna leave it in, make it worth something. You know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta make it worth something, and right now it's

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Speaker 1: not if it's and I get the balance. If you

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Speaker 1: make it fun to watch and unbelieve it, it comes

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Speaker 1: a little dangerous. But if you make it safe, it's

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Speaker 1: not so much fun to watch. And I know that

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Speaker 1: sounds kind of bruistic, but it's they got to fix

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Speaker 1: it some more. What I think they gotta fix it

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Speaker 1: some more because right now I still catch myself gaying, okay,

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Speaker 1: now I gotta kick off, and then you see the

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Speaker 1: offense walk out there and go, oh okay, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: just gonna take off and go right. That means there's

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Speaker 1: no time off the play clock there, I mean no

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Speaker 1: time off the game clock. They just take it over

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Speaker 1: on offense and away they go. So, yeah, it's got

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Speaker 1: to be worth the time again like it once was.

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Speaker 1: So they got to change it again. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: maybe you get the call this summer, another trip to

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Speaker 1: New York. They probably won't invite me this time. I

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Speaker 1: talk too much the last time. I was like, what

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Speaker 1: is you? Yeah? I was like, what about this? And

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Speaker 1: what about that? Anger? What do you mean when you

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Speaker 1: say this? And what's going on with this? And what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna do about that? Rich McKay was looking

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Speaker 1: at me, gonna we just shut up. I feel you're rich.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here. We want to get

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Speaker 1: more thoughts on this topic of the day. What will

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Speaker 1: help Josh Allen the most this offseason? Give us a

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Speaker 1: call eight oh three h five fifty or twelve three

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five? Uh, send

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Speaker 1: it a tweet. We might read it on the air. Plus,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips has resigned with the Bills. What do you

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Speaker 1: think of that? We got a break here. We're coming

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Speaker 1: back when more one Bills Live from One Bill Drive

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio, John Murphy and Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live on another snowy day in

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park, New York, March fifth. We're gonna count them down, Steve.

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Speaker 1: You know we have a little we should have a

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Speaker 1: little Twitter pole contest. When does spring hit Orchard Park?

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Speaker 1: The over under or no way? Wa wait are you

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Speaker 1: talking about it? How we gonna do it? Because gambling

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00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: is now it's legal, so yeah, we don't have likely

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Speaker 1: begin we could have the over under like pick a

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Speaker 1: date and say after or before, or we could go

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Speaker 1: out and get the like super Bowl squares and just

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Speaker 1: pick a day like that. Yeah, and then or we

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Speaker 1: could what's another way we could do it? Um and

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Speaker 1: you got to figure out the definition of spring a

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Speaker 1: certain temperature, right criteria. Maybe it's just like seperature, Like

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Speaker 1: it's got to be like the third day in a

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Speaker 1: row of fifty fifty sixty plus Yeah yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah, Okay, Like we're gonna work on it. We'll

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Speaker 1: put more time into that than we did on today's

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Speaker 1: Twitter and maybe listen, we had we went round and

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Speaker 1: around today on Twitter polls and this is it's here's

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Speaker 1: the thing you and I spend so much time talking

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Speaker 1: about it, and we go out into the We went

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, you went to the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: We went to the Combine, and we talked to all

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Speaker 1: our guests. There is no way to get around the

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Speaker 1: fact that everybody who talks about the Buffalo Bills, it

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Speaker 1: starts and ends with Josh. Yeah. I mean across the country,

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Speaker 1: across the globe, and all of our listeners. When we

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Speaker 1: get callers from Africa and Australia and whoever else, you know, Idaho,

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Speaker 1: whoever calls us in everyone's it's Josh. Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh, Josh.

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Speaker 1: You know. And I thought it would be different after

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Speaker 1: what we went through last year. I was wrong. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we was all quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback last year.

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Speaker 1: Now we have a name. Now we have a name. Right,

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Speaker 1: We stamped him. That's how we got to today's Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: What will help Josh Allen the Mosa's offseason. Look, here's

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Speaker 1: an example. We're gonna play a portion of a conversation

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Speaker 1: you had with Charles Davis of the NFL Network last

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Speaker 1: week right just about the Bill's prospects. Looking for what

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Speaker 1: in the draft how should they approach the offseason? And

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Speaker 1: listen how Charles Davis started his conversation with Steve last

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Speaker 1: week in Indianapolis. Well, the first step is to make

640
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Speaker 1: sure he keeps some bubble wrap around Josh Allen, right, right,

641
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he really did a nice job, didn't he

642
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: showed to me? He showed a great amount of toughness

643
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: last year, not just his ability to run the football,

644
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: which we evaluate him as a good runner. I don't

645
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 1: think any of us saw this all right, and if

646
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: we did, we probably should go buy some lottery tickets somewhere.

647
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: But being able to bounce back from from some big hits,

648
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: from some injuries, step in there and keep firing away.

649
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: I like what he showed that way. I mean, that's

650
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: how Charles Davis starts, and that's what got us today's

651
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: twitter post. Steve. What will help Josh Allen the most

652
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: this offseason? He's talking about bubble rap. If you're interpret

653
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: what he's saying, I guess he's say, an offensive line, right,

654
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Yeah, it's I think it is. I mean,

655
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a basic premise of football. But yeah,

656
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think the offensive line last year

657
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: was good enough. I don't know that they're going to

658
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: bring all of those guys back. If if the holes

659
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: in that position group at offensive line were at other

660
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: positions on the team, Like if the offensive line was

661
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: solid and you had the problems you have at another

662
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: position group, you pick it, that would be the I mean,

663
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: forget that they didn't play well last year. They're not

664
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: even they don't even have enough guys now three of

665
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: them are free agents, are pending free agents. I mean

666
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: three guys that started in the last month of the

667
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: season are gone. And a lot of people, and I

668
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: know the snark on Twitter is like, yeah, good riddance.

669
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: I okay, we gotta have somebody line up, and we

670
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: don't want to get worse, right, And that's a possible.

671
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: That's always a possibility. So it is it isn't It

672
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: is correct and proper that eighty percent of our respond

673
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, it's the offensive line, that's the word.

674
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: It should there's just there's now it's down to seventy three.

675
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Oh we've changed my mind. Now it's starting to become

676
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: a better Twitter pool. So it's again it's a balancing act. Now, right,

677
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: let's take some outrage and balancing with my negative effect.

678
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: What we'll helpe Josh you having the most of this offseason, Nick,

679
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: and Wheatfield has some thoughts. Nick, go ahead, you're on

680
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: the air. Hi, good afternoon. Hi John. Hey. I called

681
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: a while back and I said one thing, assess adapt

682
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: improvising and respond if you remember. I love you, But

683
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think of a wide receiver until a third

684
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: or fourth round. Steve. My opinion, I'm hoping being has

685
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: enough magic to move up a little bit. I'd like

686
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: to see him get Bradley and I'd like to get

687
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: him Lyndstrom out of Boston College. I believe it was Lindstrom. Yep.

688
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: The offensive line, and I think they both be a great,

689
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: great addition to our offensive line. Personally, I think Miller

690
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: and Mills should be gone. That's my opinion. And the

691
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: reason is it seems whenever we had a good drive goaling,

692
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: they would get the holding penalty or they would get

693
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: the illegal hands on penalty and it would set us back.

694
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: And you know, like we're saying a marine corps, you

695
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: need a good perimeter and in order to have Josh

696
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: Allen do what he can do, and we know what

697
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: he can do, and he can do it better. He

698
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: needs a good perimeter, and the way you're going to

699
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: get a good perimeter is to get that offensive line

700
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: geared up. Thanks Nick, I appreciate that. Look. I would

701
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: vote for offensive line, but I do think there's an

702
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: argument to be made for helping Josh Allen with receiving help.

703
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: And we've heard it made by people that we talked

704
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: to at the combine last week. We've heard it from

705
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: some tweets we've read, and I don't know if I

706
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: want to wait till the third round they get a

707
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Look, I've said this yesterday, Steven, this struggling

708
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Not only do the Bills need a

709
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver, they need a couple. They need a number

710
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: one wide receiver. They don't have that guy in the roster.

711
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: They need a guy who can pretty much do everything

712
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: you say he could get done with a slot guy

713
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: in I don't know. I gotta think about that. They

714
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: need a number one who's big and fast and is

715
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: your go to guy on third downs and in the

716
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: red zone. They need that guy. They need him as

717
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: soon as they can, and if he's available, I'm not

718
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: reaching for him in the first round. But if he's

719
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: available in the first round, I'm taking him there. I

720
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: think I really do. And if his name is DK Metcalf,

721
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: and if I've spent the next seven weeks investigating everything

722
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: about him, including why his production lag behind his obvious

723
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: physical specimen, if I'm satisfied with that answer, I am

724
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: taking him there. Well, but I'm not committing to anybody yet.

725
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: It was interesting too, because that's what we said yesterday.

726
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: We had a big, goling conversation about DK Metcalf, why

727
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: he didn't produce in college. He's a red shirt sophomore. Yeah,

728
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: he's only had two and he's been injured. And then

729
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: when he did get on, he pushed to the sideline

730
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: a couple of really good players in solid veteran upper

731
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: asking players. They're in college. So yeah, they had a

732
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: hard time keeping him off the field when he was healthy,

733
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: even though he was a very young player. So there

734
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: is that about his production, the fact they didn't play that.

735
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: I only had two seasons, a red shirt, red shirt sophomore,

736
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: so and he came out and I get it, but

737
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you, there's a lot of balances. I hope,

738
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: as like the caller Nick said, I hope the Bills

739
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: can wait till the third round to get a receiver

740
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: because they've already got some guys in free agency. And

741
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you this, Murph, and this may

742
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: be trending towards my Twitter pole. It's coming to me, now,

743
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: what would you be satisfied with a solid or proven

744
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: veteran player signed in free agency or a couple of them? Say,

745
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: for instance, you get two guys like a like a

746
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: Golden Tate and another one of those guys that you

747
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: recognize off the free agent wire, just solid veteran guys

748
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: who maybe you're long in the tooth. That way, you

749
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: can have some slack in the draft to drop down

750
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: to the third round and maybe just grab one of

751
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: the guys there in the draft. Receivers. Yeah, receivers. I'm

752
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: talking about the right reiver. Yeah, a couple of guys.

753
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: There's there's a couple of guys in free agency that

754
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: are worth kind of hanging in there with, maybe middle

755
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much Golden Tate would

756
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: cost or one of the other receivers that are available.

757
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Tyrod Williams from the Chargers has

758
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: the potential to be in number one receiver in this league,

759
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: I really do. I think John Brown from Baltimore does

760
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: as well. Devin Funches a lot of people like I

761
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: don't like him that much. I don't know if he

762
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: has potentially be number one. For instance, if you get

763
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: a guy like Damarius Thomas, no or I've got too

764
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: many character questions. Well okay, yeah, Pierre Garsson, Michael Crabtree, uh,

765
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: Golden Tate, John Brown, your guy from the Baltimore Ravens,

766
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: Cordarell Patterson, you know who is the number one? He's

767
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: but he's a proven guy in the league. He's been

768
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: around for a while, he's and he's won a world championship. Yeah,

769
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: guy like Mike Wallace from Philly. You know, um, Chris

770
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: Hogan's gonna be a why not number one? A free

771
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: agent number one? So yeah, Adam Humphreys from Tampa Bay.

772
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's some guys out there who you know,

773
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: they're all making you know, a couple of million bucks

774
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: a year. You could probably get him for you know,

775
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you know, you're not gonna spend fifteen

776
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: million bucks on one of those guys are thirteen million

777
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: bucks on him, but you could get him, so how

778
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: how many of those guys? Say you get two of

779
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: these guys, and I could wait, yeah, right, unless that's

780
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: my question. Right, unless over the next seven weeks you'd

781
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: do enough homework and satisfy yourself enough about DK Metcalff

782
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: that you think we really need this guy. There's a chance, Steve,

783
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: that guy could be a phenomenal talent, a chance. I

784
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: want to know more about his time at Old Miss.

785
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: I want to know more about his injury history, but

786
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: based on his performance at the combine, based on his

787
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: physical stature, there's a chance he could be special. And

788
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: if he's there at nine, which he may not be,

789
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd comfortable overlooking him, even if

790
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: they do send the two guys you talk about. But

791
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: that's what the next seven weeks are all about him

792
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: my mind. Yeah, yeah, And I understand that, and I

793
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: get it too. It's gonna be a real balancing. I

794
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: want to know how much confidence they have in the

795
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: offensive linemen they're going to sign in the next seven weeks,

796
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: and what offensive linemen in balance, Like, for instance, what

797
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: if you get Jonas Jonas Williams, this left tackle from

798
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Alabama that drops us to number nine and You've got

799
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf sitting there and Jonas Williams ask me that

800
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: question in seven weeks after I've done my homework on

801
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: both of them, really, but especially on Metcalf. Yeah, I

802
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: think about it though. That's I'm thinking that's the dilemma

803
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: because there are going to be at number nine. There

804
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: will be some really good players there. And the fortunate

805
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: part is no one has to answer this question, the Bills,

806
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: especially for until seven weeks from Thursday. You got time

807
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: to do this homework. You got time to add some

808
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: pieces in free agency. You know, maybe maybe the picture

809
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: on the offensive line changes through free agency. We'll see,

810
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, what will help Josh down

811
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: on the most this offseason? To call here from Charlie

812
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. Hello Charlie, Hi John, Hello Steve. Howis the

813
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: staff and doing good? Charlie? What's up? Want the answer?

814
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Couple of quick questions, like our offensive line, our wide

815
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: receivers a tight ends, any of the offensive players who

816
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: might bring in either running backs, the attitude about them

817
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: playing here in Buffalo. We've been the blunt of the

818
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: jokes all over the country for years, like we're the

819
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: Rodney danger Fields of football. No respect about getting people

820
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: with an attitude that want to play here. And I

821
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: didn't need to ask Steve a question because you played

822
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Is there a way through an evaluation or

823
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: interviewing wide receivers, either their veterans are free, young kids

824
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: are going to get drafted when it's November and December

825
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: and it gets cold here. The wins here here, the

826
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: snow is here, the rain is here. About them mentally

827
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: adjusting to the game and still becoming a productive player.

828
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: That's all I got to say, guys and us have

829
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: a good day now. Surely, I don't know exactly if

830
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: he's asking whether they're worried about guys coming here, playing

831
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: here and then not being able to play in the

832
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: cold weather, or if it was specifically about just the

833
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: entire organization where they want to play here in Buffalo,

834
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: for this town and this team in this town. Either way,

835
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: that's up to Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott and some

836
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: of the other players to reach out to these free

837
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: agents and say, hey, listen, you're gonna love it here.

838
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: You are gonna love it here. We've got a great culture,

839
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: we've got great facilities. They're upgrading the facilities all the time.

840
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: They've got an engaged owner who loves the team and

841
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: who who you know, has given us free reign to

842
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: do the things and implement the things we want to do.

843
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: Here's the way it is in practice. Here's our practice schedule.

844
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: Here's what we've done some of the things. Here's some

845
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: of the things we're gonna do. And now they'll they'll

846
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: sell them on that. And then the other thing they'll

847
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: sell them on is their opportunity. A guy like a

848
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: Golden Taate or a guy like um, all these guys

849
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Speaker 1: and UM, they'll bring them in and they'll say, listen,

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00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: here's what we think you can do for us. Here's

851
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: the film. Here's your spot right here. This is where

852
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: we want you to line up. Here's how where we

853
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: want you to do right uh. And they'll say, you're

854
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: gonna line up here all the time. You're our number one.

855
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna come in and we will pencil you in

856
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: as a starter. We think you're you know, you're gonna

857
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: have to compete for the job, but we don't have

858
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: anybody else here to do that. We don't have anybody

859
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: here that can compete for that spot. And that's why

860
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: we're bringing you in weeks. Envision you as being the

861
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna start, and we'll pay you this much money. Right,

862
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: So that's that's it. It's it's the culture you're selling,

863
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: the team, you're selling, the outlook you're selling, and their

864
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: opportunity that you're selling. The money will take care of itself,

865
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: because that's you know, that's in free agency. That's what

866
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: it's going to be. If a team's gonna play twice

867
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: as much as more than you are, anyway, that's over

868
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: your you know you're not gonna get him anyway. But

869
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: if the money is the same, you're selling him on

870
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: his opportunity to be a name player and to get

871
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: put himself into prominence around the National Football League. That's

872
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: what these guys are all about, and that's what you're selling.

873
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: It's and believe me, most players are adult enough to know. Listen,

874
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: it may be bad, but you know, November, December, January, Hey,

875
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: if we're in the playoff hunt and stuff, I'll live

876
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: with it. I'll do it because as soon as February

877
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: and after the Super Bowl is over, I'll be on

878
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: the beach anyway. Yeah, you know they don't care. Yeah, listen,

879
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: you're not listen if you're making life decisions because you

880
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: can't stand three months of bad weather while you're making

881
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: seven figures, you're not gonna you know, you got some

882
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: issues that go beyond back. So you don't think that

883
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: players aren't gonna want to play for Buffalo because they

884
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: don't want to play in the cold weather. They're gonna

885
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: come in here, see the facilities, They're gonna see the culture,

886
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna see the vibe, and they're gonna see the

887
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: opportunity that this team's offering them with a quarterback like

888
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: they've got, and they're gonna say thumbs up or thumbs down.

889
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: We'll see, Hey what we'll help Josh Hallen the most

890
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: this offseason. We'll take more calls on that. Discuss that. Further.

891
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: Coming up been one Kyle Williams. We'll talk about his

892
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: recent experience last weekend at the Combine and the guy

893
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: who might wind up replacing him, Jordan Phillips just resigned

894
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: to a contract by the Bills. He's gonna join us

895
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: at one thirty. Stick around for a while. It's One

896
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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. Coming here from One

897
00:42:46,239 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome Back, One

898
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, John d Be, Steve Tasker, Kyle Wahave's coming

899
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: by here about one o'clock, or Sylvie in the phone

900
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: with us. Fresh off his appearance at the NFL scouting combine.

901
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Guy who might be his replacement, defensive tackle, Jordan Phillips

902
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: has agreed to terms on a one year deal with

903
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: the Bills. He's coming by at one thirty. Our question

904
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: of the day flawed as it is. That's for you, Steve.

905
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: What will help Josh Allen the most this offseason? What

906
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: do you think? Give us a call or sending a

907
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: tweet on the tweet sheet. We got one here from Silvanos.

908
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: Here we go, let's go. It doesn't matter how much

909
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: time Josh has to throw. If the receivers one can't

910
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: get open and two can't hold on to the ball,

911
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: a solid number one wide receiver will help him the

912
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: most with the offensive line. Second, Salvanos in the minority.

913
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: But as I pointed out to you, Steve, there are

914
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: people who believe that that they need wide receiver help.

915
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: And from Wandering Jack, a frequent tweeter here in the show,

916
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: to make that seem wondering Jack is elected not to

917
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: play along with our Twitter poll, he's rights take the

918
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: next step. We need all three offensive line to give

919
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: him time to keep him upright probably be the most

920
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: important plus gained confidence, but more dependable wide receivers are

921
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: also a must, and it wouldn't hurt to find a

922
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: nice safety valve tight end to bail them out. I'm

923
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: confident being has a plan. I am too, and I

924
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: think watching this plan unfold over the next month and

925
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: a half two months is going to be really fun

926
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: for us, really fun. I think it's more of a yeah,

927
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: there is a plan, and they do have this end

928
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: thing in mind, but I think it's more like when

929
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: you start getting to this, when all these other teams

930
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: are making decisions, and like when we just came out.

931
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: It came out over Twitter. Just now, the Houston Texans

932
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: released a former first round corner and Kevin Johnson, who's

933
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: a really gifted athlete, and he's out on the market

934
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: just before free agency, much like Spencer Long was. So

935
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: there's all these moving parts and for me, yeah, you

936
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: gotta start signing these free agents. You gotta target guys

937
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: you want. You gotta get offensive lineman, you gotta get

938
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: wide receivers even got to stay on top of it

939
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: with linebackers and defensive linemen and safeties and all those

940
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: guys too. I mean, that's what the Bills have to do.

941
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: It's their job. They have to have a file for

942
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: every position group going around and who's available, and who's

943
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: the best guy available for our team and our culture,

944
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So it's not really a plan

945
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: that you have. It's more of a policy. You got

946
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: to have listen, if they do, we got to do this,

947
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: and if if if this guy is available, we've got

948
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: to be ready to be able to sign this guy

949
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: and get it. It's more of a belief, you know,

950
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: it's more of a belief system really than it is

951
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: a plan, because you certainly have goals of players you

952
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: want to sign, but how you get those guys you

953
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: have no control over how they become available, whether it's

954
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: the draft, whether it's free agency, which free agents say

955
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: no to you, and that changes your plan in the draft,

956
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: It changes your options in the draft, It changes you know,

957
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: your philosophy about whether you want to trade down or

958
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: sideways or up. So all this stuff is in play

959
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: depending on what happens. And as I just mentioned with

960
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: you know this guy coming out and getting cut today.

961
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: That happens once in a while, and everything changes all

962
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: the time, and it's you. It's unbelievable. You can't just

963
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: have this plan to say, well, we can't, we can't

964
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: talk about that because we've got a plan. Listen, your

965
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: plan's got to change. I'd be flexible, yeah, light on

966
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: your feet. Yeah. And it's always everything's always in play.

967
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, your players got to be ready to be traded.

968
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: And what's There's nothing to say that the Bills can't

969
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: call up the Cincinnati Bengals and say, listen, I know

970
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: AJ Green's contracts gonna be up. What's it gonna take

971
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: to get him out of there? Because you're gonna lose

972
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: him or you're gonna have to franchise him or whatever.

973
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: What's it gonna take that kind of thing you can

974
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: trade for these guys. The landscape changes, as you pointed out,

975
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: like Texans cut a corner today and franchise tags a

976
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: deadline for tagses. I believe today at five pm six

977
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: franchise tags now taking guys off the market. And I

978
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: wonder on this list how many the Bills maybe had

979
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: in mind saying if he's there. We gotta look. Dudavian

980
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: Clowney got the tag yesterday to Marcus Lawrence Cowboys got

981
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: the tag. Many people believe that he will not play there,

982
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to trade him. Grady Jarrett defensive

983
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: tackle with the Falcons tag, Frank Clark defensive end of

984
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: the Sea Hawks tag D four defensive end Chiefs pretty

985
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: good player tag. The speculation in Kansas City is that

986
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: they're going to tag him and trade him and kicker

987
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Robbie Gold of forty nine yeers tag. But I wonder

988
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: of that six tag if any of them were in

989
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: the Bills plans, Like, wouldn't d Ford look good in

990
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: the Buffalo got four defensive ends, a defensive tackle and

991
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: a kicker. That's a trend. Four defensive ends edge you

992
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: can't find edge rushers, man, you can't find them. And

993
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: certainly that does change the Bills plan. Well, it shortens

994
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: that list of guys that are going to be available

995
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: in free agency. Certainly they kind of just gave me

996
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: in Clowney, DeMarcus Lawrence kind of mean, Yeah, those guys

997
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: aren't gonna They're not gonna let those guys go. He

998
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: Dford's too young he had, he had a great year

999
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: this year. They're gonna speculation is they're gonna trade him, Well,

1000
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: they may and all those guys that may be. And

1001
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: if you do, if you think that, if you get

1002
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: an inkling of that, you're already on the phone for

1003
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: what you know? For what? Yep? All right, we're talking

1004
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: about the free agency, talking about the draft, talking about

1005
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: what you think the Bills need to do to get

1006
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen better wresting along in his second year.

1007
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: We'll keep that discussion going an hour. Number two going

1008
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: to discuss things with Kyle Williams about defensive linemen in

1009
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: the draft. He got an up close and personal look

1010
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: at him. Who was on the field for the NFL

1011
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: Network on television covers Sunday during their workouts. Coming up

1012
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: at one thirty, Jordan Phillips just signed to a new

1013
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: one year deal with the Bills. He'll be joining us

1014
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: in studio. We're busy all of a sudden today, Come

1015
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: on back. One Bill's Live presented by a lot of

1016
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio,

1017
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Hills Radio Network story date an update from One

1018
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. The Buffalo Bills have agreed to terms on

1019
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: a new contract for defensive tackle Jordan Phillips joined the

1020
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Bills on a waiver claim from the Dolphins in mid

1021
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: season last year, played a number of games for the

1022
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: Bills and added a lot of energy to Buffalo's defensive line.

1023
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: He was resigned today to a one year deal. He's

1024
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: a former second round pick of the Dolphins and two

1025
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: fifteen nineteen tach else for Jordan Phillips last year two

1026
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: for losses, three pass breakups on a Fumber recovery in

1027
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: twelve games for the Bills. Jordan Phillips resigned to a

1028
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: one year deal by the Buffalo Bills. The Bills reportedly

1029
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: are bringing back defensive end Edy Yarborough. According to ESPN,

1030
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: he was an exclusive rights free agent tended to contract

1031
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: yesterday by the Buffalo Bills. Yarborough fifteen games played for

1032
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: the Bills last season, and former Patriots tight end Duyne

1033
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Allen making some free agent moves. Reportedly, he has a

1034
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: visit on the schedule with the Bills tonight. The Bills

1035
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: reportedly one of four teams interested in acquiring the former

1036
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: Patriots tight end. The Ravens Dolphins lines also involved Dwayne

1037
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Allen twenty nine years old, has played with the Colts

1038
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: for five years and the Patriots for the last two years.

1039
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: Former third round pick strong blocker Dwayne Allen reportedly making

1040
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: a free agent visit with the Buffalo Bills. Kansas City's

1041
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: d Ford and Justin Houston combined for twenty two tacks

1042
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: last season, but maybe neither one of them plays for

1043
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs this year. Chiefs put the franchise tag on

1044
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: Ford yesterday. They're listening to trade offers for the outside

1045
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: linebacker and Houston. Justin Houston is and informed the Chiefs

1046
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: are going to try to trade him. They're switching up

1047
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: defenses in Kansas City, and the Chiefs are ready to

1048
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: move some talent. The Marcus Lawrence got the franchise tag yesterday.

1049
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: The deadline for sites who are agreed on a long

1050
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: term deal is July fifteenth, and it's not anticipated the

1051
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: Lawrence will get to a deal with the Dallas Cowboys

1052
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: and the New York Giants viewed is unlikely to franchise

1053
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: take safety Land and Collins ready to let him. The

1054
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: talented big safety hit the free nch of market Buffalo Sabers,

1055
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: losers of eight of their last ten games, nine points

1056
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: out of the second wildcard spot, the final playoff spot.

1057
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: Last night, Sabers blew a three one lead and lost

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Speaker 1: at the Keybank Center four to three, and they move

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Speaker 1: on to play Chicago. Thursday. College basketball, the UB Bulls

1060
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: play at Ohio with a chance to clinch the top spot,

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00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: the top seed in the Mid American Conference Tournament. It

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Speaker 1: is John Murphy's team Tasker. It is one Bills Live

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00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: from one Bill's Drive and joining us right now on

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00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: the subway, Fresh take, hotline, Fresh office appearance on the

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00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: NFL Network for the NFL Scouting Combine. Thirteen years in

1066
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: uniform for the Buffalo Bills, six pro bowled appearances, including

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00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: this last January. Happy to have Kyle Williams on the

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00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: line with us from his home in Louisiana. You're back

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00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: home now, boy, now, aren't you? Kyle? Yeah, I am.

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00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the sun right now. Very nice, so are we? Yeah? Yes? Son?

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00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: And hey, what did you think of your first major

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00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: television job over the weekend with the NFL Network? How

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00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: did you like that? Well? I mean, what did I

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00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: think about how it did or what I think about

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00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: the experience? The experience? Did you like the work? Yeah,

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00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. It was a good time. It was

1077
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: fun to be on the field, you know, kind of

1078
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: get an eye on those guys, get up close and

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00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: personal with them, visit with a few of them. Actually

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00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: I knew a few of them, some LSU guys. There's

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00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: actually a guy from my hometown that didn't go to

1082
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: LSU that was at the combine. So it was fun.

1083
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: It was it was a lot of a unique experience

1084
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: and the first time doing I had a good time.

1085
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: What was your biggest impression of the guys there, I mean,

1086
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: you did it so long ago, I mean over a

1087
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: decade ago. You were there. What struck you about the

1088
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: guys going through their combined experience? It's such a production now.

1089
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is, you know, when

1090
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: I went, a lot of the things you did were

1091
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: behind closed doors and then just got reported and then

1092
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: everybody saw you run the forty and that was kind

1093
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: of it. Right now, you're getting a live look at

1094
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: vertical jump, broad jump, forty yard dash. You know, you're

1095
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: getting you're getting a live look at all of these things,

1096
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: which is a really cool thing that NFL has pulled

1097
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: the veil back on it and really kind of invited

1098
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: everyone in, which has got to be exciting for fans

1099
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: and people that are trying to keep up with their

1100
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: team you're around. Is it too much Kyle, the change

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00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: that you talk about and too much attention paying on

1102
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: everything pulling the veilbackage? You said? People are interested, but

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00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: does it hamper it all the evaluation of these prospects

1104
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: they have so much on TV? Do you think No,

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00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think if you if you

1106
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: try to get into the mind of some of these

1107
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: young guys that are coming out, you know, they probably

1108
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: look a look at it as another opportunity indeed to shine.

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00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: You know, when they were in college, a lot of

1110
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: these guys played on TV and you can guarantee yourself

1111
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: that they circled the games that they were going to

1112
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: be on national TV, that they were doing this, that

1113
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: they were doing that. And I've been it's just another

1114
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: way for them to go, Hey, I have another opportunity

1115
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: to you know, to kind of showcase my talent here.

1116
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to watch Quinnon Williams and

1117
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: I know that he's set some sort of record for

1118
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: a three hundred pound guy running the forty What did

1119
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: you think of that forty time from a guy from

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00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: three hundred plus pounds being able to run a for eight.

1121
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: You know, running a four eight at you know three

1122
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: hundred and three pounds is impressive. You know, he's a

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: big guy, moves well. I liked what he did in

1124
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: the individual drills more than I did watching him run

1125
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: a forty Because no matter who drafts him or another

1126
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: guy who runs a really fast forty time, if that

1127
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: big guy is running forty yards for you, that is

1128
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: not a good thing. It's just not. But watching him move,

1129
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: change direction, go over the bags, do a lot of

1130
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: things that I think are more football specific was impressive.

1131
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: I really liked what he did the other day. Who

1132
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: else stood out for you? Guy? Who else did you

1133
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: like a defensive linemen you were watching on Sunday? You

1134
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: know there's a handful of guys. You know, you had

1135
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: some of those defensive ends here, Gary from Michigan. I

1136
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: thought that he Yeah, I thought that he showed some

1137
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: good moves in a lot of first on the top

1138
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: end of some of those bag drills. You obviously Quinnon

1139
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: Williams for those tackles. You know, I wanted to get

1140
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: a good look at Oliver, but he didn't work out.

1141
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: So you know, there's a handful of guys who really

1142
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: did some good things. You obviously everybody saw the four

1143
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: four one by Sweat. You know, some of the times

1144
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: that these guys are running, you know, are just are

1145
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: crazy to think about. If you could change the combine,

1146
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: what would you change? Um, you know, I think as

1147
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: being a third party this time, someone that's just coming in.

1148
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: I'd love for it to be in a warm weather place.

1149
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's just hanging out. No, I

1150
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: think that when I went in the sense that I

1151
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: got from a lot of guys that were still there,

1152
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: there's still quite a bit of hurry up and wade involved.

1153
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: Waking up at you know, six o'clock, five thirty in

1154
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: the morning, Hurry, hurry, hurry, and then you really don't

1155
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: do anything until nine. But you know, some of that

1156
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: is the you know, the production part of it. The

1157
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: TV's involved a lot more now, you know. But I

1158
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: just know for those guys who were asking to perform

1159
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: physically at a high level. You know, guy warms up,

1160
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: he runs his forty well, then he's got thirty minutes

1161
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: until he doesn't l drill or he's got twenty five

1162
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: minutes until he jumps. You know, I think it puts them,

1163
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, kind of behind an eight ball, so to speak.

1164
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: We're on the line with former Bill's defensive lineman Kyle

1165
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: Williams just wrapped up his experience at the scouting combine

1166
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: is and I'm field analysts for NFL Network while the

1167
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: defensive lineman worked out, and I want to ask you

1168
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: about another guy, and there's he still might wind up

1169
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: being the number one pick overall, and that is Bosa.

1170
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: What did you think of Nick Bosaka and his workouts?

1171
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: I think he did a great job. He's kind of

1172
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: the same thing. You know. I guess a lot of

1173
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna, oh, well, he ran a four

1174
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: eight forty. I think that's plenty. I think where you

1175
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: where he gets his um makes his money, so to speak,

1176
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: or where he makes hay is the way that he moves,

1177
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: the tenacity that he plays with. But it's kind of

1178
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: the same thing with Quinnon Williams. Watching him go over

1179
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: the bags, watching him move you know, what would be

1180
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: a football setting was impressive and you can see why

1181
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's so capable on the field. And you

1182
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: watch the edge guys too, right, you weren't just interior

1183
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: defensive linement, right, No, I got to watch all of them. Well,

1184
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: can I throw a few names at you guys that

1185
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: it seems like had pretty good weekends. Brian Burns, defensive

1186
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: end from Florida State. What did you make of him?

1187
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: I thought that what he did? You know, he's a taller,

1188
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: leaner guy. And you know when you watch a lot

1189
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: of these guys, um, they'll do outside linebacker drills as well.

1190
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: They'll drop into space, cover ground, you know, kind of

1191
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: do some simulated drops. I think of all the guys there,

1192
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: he showed the most capability in space where he could

1193
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: move cover a lot of ground effortlessly, you know, and

1194
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: he made some sweet grabs too, which a lot of

1195
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: those guys struggled with that ball. Yeah, it's interesting too

1196
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: because he's so tall and long. To have a guy

1197
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: that lengths play well in space is a little bit

1198
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: like a unicorn, right. I mean, those guys really don't

1199
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: do that very well. If you find one that can

1200
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: do it, it's it's just one more, you know, tall

1201
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: thing that a quarterback has to throw the football over. Yeah,

1202
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: for sure. And like I said, the way the way

1203
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: he covered ground and he could move around really well.

1204
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: And what I noticed kind of your point is when

1205
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: they threw the ball to him after he had done

1206
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: those drills through the middle of the field, and he

1207
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: went up and you could just see how long, levered

1208
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: and limb he was and how much space he was

1209
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: taking up in the middle of the field. And now,

1210
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: I've never thrown a you know, a ball down the

1211
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: seam or thrown a dig route or anything like that,

1212
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: but I can't imagine somebody with that wingspan and that

1213
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: height and size, you know, being a very comfortable target

1214
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: to try to have to throw around cal you mentioned

1215
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: Montes sweat Mississippi State already. I had the opportunity to

1216
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: watch him at the Senior Bowl back at the end

1217
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: of January. M and as you mentioned, the forty time

1218
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: is impressive, doesn't mean much. I would just impress with

1219
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: that guy's makeup. He is about as long a human

1220
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and that could mean a lot on

1221
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: the outside as an edgerech guy, right, yeah, it can.

1222
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, I got asked the question about leverage, and

1223
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: you know how these guys used obviously, you know um

1224
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: eyes and those guys. I don't know if it was

1225
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: a joke or a poke at maybe they're like, you know,

1226
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: you've got some built in leverage, which I do, but

1227
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: you know a lot of these guys, those things are

1228
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: tools in their toolbox if they learn how to use

1229
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: them properly. These long arm, tall guys, if they learn

1230
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: how to play with proper leverage and pad level, you know,

1231
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: those long arms are are something there that are going

1232
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: to be a big tool for him and his success

1233
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: moving forward. Let's talk a little bit the Bills resigned

1234
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips today. You're obviously very familiar with these a

1235
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: teammate of years last year, and as the Bills kind

1236
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: of enter this offseason, what are your thoughts on where

1237
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: they should head next? Well, I think obviously, you know

1238
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: the big talk are you know from the combine like receiver,

1239
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: an offensive line. You know we signed Jordan back. You

1240
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: know you got a couple of guys coming back up front.

1241
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna keep adding complimentary pieces all across

1242
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: that football team. And one thing I know about Sean

1243
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: and Brandon, They're gonna be very calculated on who they

1244
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: decide to pick. They're gonna make sure that they fit in,

1245
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: not just physically, but with the culture that they want

1246
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: their competitiveness, competitiveness and the toughness that these guys have

1247
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: to show to be a part of their program. So,

1248
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think from the combine, union know you're

1249
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: looking at guys at receiver, offensive line, and obviously this

1250
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: draft is loaded with defensive guys, and you know, you

1251
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: could never make a mistake with a with a great

1252
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: defensive player with as many as they're coming out. How

1253
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips played a dozen games with you and your

1254
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's teammates last year. What did you think of

1255
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: him in What does he need to do do you

1256
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: think now to become maybe a more regular part of

1257
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Does he have what it takes to

1258
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: line up and play three technique on every down basis?

1259
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: Do you think, Yeah, Jordan's got the talent to do

1260
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: whatever he wants. He can play you know, three techniques,

1261
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: he can play nose. He's a big, powerful, strong man,

1262
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: so you know, honestly, it's just honing down the techniques,

1263
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, playing with a lot of effort down end

1264
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: and down out. But he's a big, talented guy that

1265
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: I think is going to help the Bills. I'm glad

1266
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: that they brought him back. Yeah, two years ago your

1267
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: defense really made a lot of ways because you churned

1268
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: out a ton of turnovers. But statistically this last season

1269
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: you were much better and much more solid all the

1270
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: way across the front and in the back end, and

1271
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: the team ended up only you know, winning fewer games

1272
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: during that season. What do you think is the most

1273
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: important thing for an NFL defense these days? Is it?

1274
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: Is it being a solid defense like you were a

1275
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: year ago, or being you know, more able to turn

1276
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: turnovers turn out turnovers? It was it more about getting

1277
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: after the passer. I mean, what do you think that

1278
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: should be the focal point of a defense headed into

1279
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: a regular season? Well, I think that you grazed on

1280
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: three things that I would say are are paramount to

1281
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: the football team. Defensive football team, limiting points, how many

1282
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: points you're allowing, and you know, yardage wanted. Some different

1283
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: things were good. Well, we struggled in some of those

1284
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: areas and in the red zone, but I would say

1285
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: limiting points, turnovers, and affecting the quarterback. Those are three

1286
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: things that you grazed on. And if I were a

1287
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: defensive coach, those in which those are those are sean

1288
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: and coach Fraser. Those are three things that they harp on.

1289
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Speaker 1: Those are the three biggest things in my opinion that

1290
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: defensively to be successful, to make place, to put the

1291
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: offense in position to win, those are three really big

1292
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: pieces for what the defense can do on the line.

1293
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: With Kyle Williams, thirteen years with the Bills defensive lineman

1294
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: now retired, Kyloe, it was it was almost a perfect

1295
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: script the way your retirement, your last game win. If

1296
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: you in the two months since you left here reflect

1297
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: back on just how perfect that was, the way things

1298
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: all came together that final Sunday of the season. Well

1299
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, actually the Bills made a book for me

1300
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: of pictures and just kind of recounting the day. And

1301
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: so I've been able to go back through that, and

1302
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, I was a big painting the neck or headache.

1303
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: They're going into that last week pushing back on a

1304
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. And but I think I said it,

1305
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: and maybe the postgame press conference or wherever it may

1306
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: have been, I said, I think the further that I

1307
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: get away from today, the more that I will appreciate

1308
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: the way that it went. And I can't tell you

1309
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: how many times or how many people whether it was

1310
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl or even the Combine this week.

1311
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: People come up and they're like, man, what a way

1312
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: to go out. Not a lot of people get to

1313
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: do that. You know, kudos to you know, the Bills

1314
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: organization and you know Terry and Kim and Sean and

1315
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: Brandon the way that they handled that, and you know

1316
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: it really I'm obviously value it, but I think it's

1317
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: really cool for lots of different guys us throughout the

1318
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: league and lots of different media people, players, coaches, etc.

1319
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: Come up and recognize like, hey, not a lot of

1320
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: people get to go out that way, which is special,

1321
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: but be the way that the Bills handled it with

1322
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: total class and appreciation for my time there. Yeah, we

1323
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: got special. Man. It was unbelievable. They also gave you

1324
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: one last little gift. The NFL gave you one last

1325
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: little gift. You got a call and you got a

1326
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: chance to play in the Pro Bowl. A couple of

1327
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: weeks after that. What did you think about did you

1328
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: have a trump any trouble flipping the switch and saying, oh,

1329
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm still a professional athlete. No, you know, honestly,

1330
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: I got asked the question about, oh, well, this is

1331
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: really your last game and this and that, and I

1332
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: really didn't feel that way. And I told I told

1333
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: the media guys, and I told everyone there that the

1334
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: emotion and the and the feelings and all those things

1335
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: of my last game, uh are on the field in

1336
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: Orchard Park where they belong. I said that the Pro

1337
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: Bowl week was all about taking my kids out, uh,

1338
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, letting them have a good time, let them

1339
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, kind of go out on a high note. Obviously,

1340
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: Anthony lenn and I know each other and we were close,

1341
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: and I went to him our first meeting. I said, Hey,

1342
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: can I just bring my kids to practice and on

1343
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: the field with me and just you know, I just

1344
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: want to check with you. I know that's really not common.

1345
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: He goes, Man, you bring them around, you do whatever

1346
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: you want. So, you know, got to bring them on.

1347
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: They're playing flag football. We had to go around them

1348
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: one day at practice, you know, Alien moved the whole

1349
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: team around my kids, my nephews and a couple other

1350
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: They're playing flag football in the middle of the practice field.

1351
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: So they were great to us. We had a great time,

1352
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: and we treated that week like it was just a

1353
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: high note on what was what was an amazing, you know,

1354
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: fun career. God, you're two months into the off season,

1355
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: the first offseason you've had in thirteen years without a

1356
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: team to go back to. Is it any different right

1357
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: now than were you've been in the past coming of

1358
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: getting ready for another season. Yeah. You know, I'm really

1359
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: not doing anything now that I normally wouldn't be doing.

1360
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: So I don't really feel panicked or feel that itch yet.

1361
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: You know, I know that my summer calendar and everything

1362
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: that has filled up a lot faster because I know

1363
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot more free time. But I think strategically

1364
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm filling that time up because I would imagine or

1365
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, late in July, I'm probably gonna get answer

1366
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: and be like, oh man, I should be getting I

1367
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: should be doing something. What am I? What am I

1368
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: not doing? I should be getting ready for something. So

1369
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: I'll take that as it comes. I'm I'm staying busy.

1370
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't sit still very well, so you know, you

1371
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: never can tell where I might pop up. Well, then, yeah,

1372
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: that's my last question for you. You popped up on

1373
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: TV this past weekend. Is there more TV in the

1374
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: future for you? Do you think down the road? Uh? Maybe,

1375
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, I never say never. I just kind of

1376
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: take things as they come, and like I said, we'll

1377
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: see you never know where I might pop up. We

1378
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: always have a seat for you here, Kyle, for those

1379
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: thirty five forty minute interviews that you love so much.

1380
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, those those quote unquote ten minute interview

1381
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: that's right, Kyle. It's great to hear your voice. Great

1382
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: job over the weekend. I hope we say in touch.

1383
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thanks Kyle. All right, you guys

1384
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: are the best. Thanks. Thanks Kyle Williams, Bill's defensive tackle

1385
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: thirteen seasons, year six Pro Bowls just wound up on

1386
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: TV on your TV's weekend on the NFL Network coverage

1387
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: of the combine Kyle joining us on the subway fresh

1388
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: take coutline presented by subway restaurants, probably locally owned an operator.

1389
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: If he's anything like I remember my retirement, first year

1390
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: retirement being um, I left because I was done, I

1391
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: was fit, I didn't want to play. I was ready

1392
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: to quit, you know. And if he was truly truly

1393
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: ready to quit, although he was playing at a higher

1394
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: level than I was when I quit, I didn't get

1395
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: an itch at all. What it wasn't an itch to play.

1396
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't an itch to h to be a part

1397
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: of the team. It wasn't like I wanted to go

1398
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: work out or felt like I was missing something. It

1399
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: was that I didn't know what I was gonna do.

1400
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know exactly how it was going

1401
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: to feel. I moved right into the booth. I mean,

1402
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: I got a job with CBS like three months after

1403
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: I got off three months. It was like it was

1404
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: in late March that I got the call, or early

1405
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: or early April that I got the call that I

1406
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: was gonna work for CBS. So I had something to

1407
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: think about, and I think that's important. But I didn't

1408
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: miss playing because I remember I think sitting in the

1409
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: locker room before my last game or two, it's like, man,

1410
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: just the stress of being able to play and play

1411
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: well and trying to win and do play well for

1412
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: your teammates. I said, you know, remember this stress when

1413
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: you're done and you think he might want to play again.

1414
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: You don't need this in your life. So that I

1415
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: never really got the hitch to play again. I was.

1416
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: I was really happy with my decision. I hope I

1417
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: hope Kyle is too. I went back today and looked

1418
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: at some of the clips of what Kyle did over

1419
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: the weekend Sunday on NFL Network. He was outstanding. I mean,

1420
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: and we've said it, We've had him on the show

1421
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: and we have to ask him, Hey, you think your

1422
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: coach when you're done. You know, we talk about the

1423
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: job of coaching, how hard it is to coach in

1424
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, but I'm telling you, his analysis of those

1425
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: defensive line workouts on Sunday at the combine was really good,

1426
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: really good and spot on. And obviously he's just off

1427
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: the field, so he knows exactly where the NFL is now.

1428
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: He's concise, you know, he's clear, he's easy to understand.

1429
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: That might be the tark the ticket for him right

1430
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: to be an analyst on TV, maybe a game analyst.

1431
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: Or he's certainly confensive line expert. I mean, he's certainly

1432
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: comfortable on camera, and that's you know, what it really takes.

1433
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: He's got a depth of knowledge. He played for thirteen

1434
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,479
Speaker 1: years and played on some really good defenses and played

1435
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: at a high level. So yeah, he and he comes

1436
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 1: across really well. So yeah, if he wanted to, I'm

1437
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: sure if he wanted to pick up the phone and

1438
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: stay busy. I'm sure he could find someplace that would

1439
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: that would use his skills. Yeah we miss him, Yeah,

1440
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: don't you miss him? I mean we have no players

1441
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: around now. He has missed everybody. Now. Man, he was

1442
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: a go to guy. Man, he was unbelievable. Good for him.

1443
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams did a great job. Hey see coming up

1444
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: at one thirty the guy who may effectively be his

1445
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: replacement at least right now, Jordan Phillips is going to

1446
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: join this before we get to that. We talked about

1447
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: this yesterday and this came across the yesterday on ESPN

1448
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: Mercedes ben Stadium where they held the Super Bowl. Right,

1449
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: they've announced a cut in food and beverage prices for

1450
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: a second consecutive year. They're gonna drop hotdog prices this

1451
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: year for Falcons games from two dollars to a buck

1452
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: and a half. They reduced prices by eleven percent on

1453
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: five of the top items starting Sunday. They're gonna start

1454
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: it this week for MLS soccer game the fan first

1455
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: menu pricing. They announced it when the stadium opened in

1456
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: August twenty seventeen. Spending per customer went up sixteen percent

1457
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: despite a fifty percent dropping concession prices from the old

1458
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: Georgia Dome. So obviously lower prices mean people are buying more.

1459
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: I love that bucking a half from a hot dog.

1460
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: Let me give you a few others. Pretzel bites from

1461
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: five dollars to four fifty, the atl bud burger from

1462
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: eight dollars to seven fifty, ice cream waffle cone will

1463
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: be four fifty. It was five chips and salsa from

1464
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: three dollars to two fifty. That's the way to go, right.

1465
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: I probably get in trouble here at work for saying that,

1466
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: But that's the way to go. Atlanta is not Buffalo, though.

1467
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Atlanta doesn't have the tailgate atmosphere that a

1468
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills game does. There's not the places, the open

1469
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,520
Speaker 1: spaces for people to do that. It's not the atmosphere

1470
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: that is in Buffalo. In Atlanta that it is in Buffalo.

1471
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: People eat traditionally before they even go to the game.

1472
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: Where no here, Yeah Buffalo, I don't and I don't

1473
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: have and I don't know, I have no idea what

1474
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: the I mean. It's expensive to eat in the stadium here, yeah, yeah,

1475
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Speaker 1: And I don't know whether that would change anything or

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01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: not if you drop the prices. I know, well get

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01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: it in Atlanta? Why would be? Well, yeah, I don't know. Love. Hey,

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01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk with Jordan Phillips. He is Here's gonna

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: be sitting on our set in a moment, so come

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: on back. Jordan Phillips just signed a one year deal

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01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: and renewal with the Bills. He's coming up on the

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01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: show One Bill's Live, presented by Klata Hell from One

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01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: the show, John Murphy, Steve Textus. So we just get

1485
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: off the line with Kyle Williams and the guy who

1486
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: has a good shot of replacing him in the lineup

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01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: joins us. Now just signed to a new contract, a

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01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: one year agreement with the Buffalo Bills. Defense of line

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01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: in Jordan Phillips joining. Just Jordan, thank you for joining us. Congratulations,

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01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: we're really happy. Thanks for having me and I'm happy

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01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, Steve can attest to this. Right. We

1492
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 1: did our show a couple weeks ago. Specific things the

1493
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: Bills need to do. What did I have number one

1494
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: on my list? Resigned? Jordan Phillips, Yes, I said they

1495
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: gotta resigned. Jordan Phillips, just because you provide a link

1496
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: to what they've done, and obviously you played well ton

1497
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: of energy and that's one less thing they got to

1498
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: worry about now that you are signed, Right, you must

1499
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: feel a little bit like that. I feel, you know,

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01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: I was. I wanted to be here. I'm happy we

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: could come to agreements and get me back, so I'm

1502
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: pleased with everything. Don't let it creepy out that Murph

1503
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: is kind of like, you know, Jordan Phillips, fanboy, more fans.

1504
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: I can get better. I'm with you, right, Joe. Here's

1505
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: the thing, guys, some guys in your situation would say shooting,

1506
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what I can get on the market.

1507
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there in free agency. But you

1508
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: weren't interested in doing that right now. No, I just

1509
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: didn't fly. It wasn't necessary. Just you know, my career

1510
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: hasn't been the wood I wanted it to be, and

1511
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo gave me an opportunity, and I felt like they should.

1512
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: I guess we should reap the benefits of the success

1513
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have. Yeah, you talk about that, you

1514
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: more than anybody would know. The contrast to haven't been

1515
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: on another team even this last season to come to

1516
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo talk about why, I'm gonna ask you, why is

1517
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: the culture here important? There? It seems to be all

1518
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: a lot of what the coaching staff talks about. It

1519
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: seems to be what the players like about the place,

1520
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: and you know the direction the team's headed. What can

1521
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: you tell us about how different it is and what

1522
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: guys around the league as well as he hearing Buffalo

1523
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: say about culture and how important it is. Without culture,

1524
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: you don't really have anything. It's the same thing kind

1525
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: of as an identity. You don't really coaches preach and

1526
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: everything like that, identity identity. But if you can't find one,

1527
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: then what are you? What are you? You can't find

1528
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: yourself and you don't win like that, and culture ties

1529
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: right into that. If you don't have a culture, then

1530
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: what's the point When you know, everybody's out doing their

1531
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: own things as far as the little things just in

1532
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: the locker room, like picking up your stuff and stuff

1533
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: like that. It's just everything you need here is here.

1534
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: There's not much to do in Buffalo, so it's really

1535
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: family oriented. It's just if you really just want to

1536
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: play football and maximize that, Buffalo is a place to be.

1537
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo is a little different than Miami. Yeah, yeah, it is.

1538
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: Right When did that culture here hit you? So the

1539
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: Bills picked up I think first week of October, right,

1540
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: they're getting ready to play the Tennessee Titans, I believe.

1541
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: And you came in here on what a Monday Tuesday?

1542
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: Probably that week? When did it hit you like, oh,

1543
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: this is a little different here, This is a different

1544
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: kind of atmosphere here. Oh well, I came in the

1545
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee week and I said, well, let's see what we

1546
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: can do here. Let's see, let's see how they react

1547
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: to me, and we'll see. And after that it kind

1548
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: of just took off. You know. I guess there hasn't

1549
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: been a real crowd pleaser here in a while, and

1550
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: I love to take on that role and it worked

1551
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: out well. Well, you're surprised you step on the field

1552
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: when they're playing the Titans, the intensity the crowd that

1553
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: because you had played here with the Dolphins, I'm sure,

1554
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 1: but you saw how many people and how they reacted

1555
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: to plays. Did that's take you by surprise at all?

1556
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: Back then? Yeah, just because everything you hear about Buffalo

1557
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: is normally not good, and you just got to be

1558
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: here to really experience what goes on here. Talking about

1559
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: you know this direction of this team. Get Josh, You've

1560
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: seen him play, you practice against him. You know that

1561
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: this is a team. You had a really solid defense

1562
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: of which you were a part of. Talk about the outlook,

1563
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't there seems to be And we've we've

1564
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: been laughing about and joking this was a really happy

1565
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: six and ten franchise right now because they really feel

1566
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: like this is teams on a springboard to better things.

1567
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at last season, I don't

1568
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: really want to dwell on it too much, but there

1569
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: was a few games that we should have won though

1570
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: we lost, and we could have finished the season at

1571
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: least nine and seven, And if we just had didn't

1572
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: have a couple of hiccups, you know, our season would

1573
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 1: be completely different. And if you look at those things,

1574
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: and we're a young team, and the more mature we get,

1575
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: the more leaders we have, those six and ten is

1576
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: easily going to turn into nine, seven and up from there.

1577
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: So it's hard to say that we're not going to

1578
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: go somewhere. I guess we're telling you we just got

1579
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: a fune with Kyle talking about his TV work over

1580
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: the weekend. But Kyle is gone, and I wonder if

1581
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: that factored into your decision at all. Like that guy

1582
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 1: ate up a lot of snaps, is a very good player,

1583
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: but there might be more snaps for you now with

1584
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: Kyle going. Uh. Like I said at the end of

1585
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: last season, the Bills are looking for a new starting

1586
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: three technique and I felt like I'm the best person

1587
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: for that opportunity, and I hope I can go earn

1588
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: that that job. What is it that makes you a

1589
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: strong three technique? What are the attributes to the traits

1590
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: that you have to be effective at that position? Um? Well,

1591
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 1: people my size, my size normally play knows they pom

1592
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: play the shade, but I can. I mean, I can

1593
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: move with the best of him. Strong athletic A long

1594
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: Explain what a three is, what a three technique is,

1595
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: because not everybody knows. So a three technique is more

1596
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: of I wouldn't say he's more of the athletic guy,

1597
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: but he's more of the sideline. The sideline but where

1598
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: you line up as well, right, So explain that. Okay,

1599
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: So the guards you're gonna be that's so hard, right? Uh,

1600
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: shade on the guard, outside shade, out side shoulder of

1601
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: the guard, whichever guard it is. Yeah, and you just

1602
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,560
Speaker 1: count from the zero, which is the nose of the

1603
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: guys snapping the ball, and you go out one, two, three, yeah,

1604
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: and that's the outside edge of the guard. That's where

1605
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,560
Speaker 1: you're going to be. And it's hard to play that

1606
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: because and tell me why, it's different than if you

1607
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: lined up three feet inside, just because there's more space

1608
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: to work with. You wouldn't think that that has a

1609
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: lot of to do with, but just that little half

1610
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: a second where your hands have to be faster, your

1611
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: feet have to be better, you have to be more explosive.

1612
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: It's just, uh, I don't know. And the offense picks

1613
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: a direction to run that sets how much space you're

1614
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: gonna where you're gonna have to run to. And you're

1615
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to run somewhere right, yes, because you don't

1616
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: ever see him the quarterback sneak. Okay, that's one thing,

1617
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: but they don't really hand it off and run it

1618
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: right up inside. You're gonna have to run someplace. Well.

1619
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the three technique here plays a little bit

1620
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: different because the bills are so gaping oriented and everything

1621
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 1: like that. So it's it's hard to say that that's true,

1622
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: but it's like, as long as you do your job,

1623
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: you're good. So everybody does a job, everybody's good. Came

1624
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 1: here today, signed this contract. Did you meet with any coaches,

1625
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: coaches or coaching staff today? What you're Yeah, I met

1626
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: with everybody. I still have to meet with coach McDermott,

1627
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: but all the talks went well. Everybody's real excited. Um, yeah,

1628
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: it seems like you're signing. It could be a thing

1629
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: that gets them. Know. They have free agency in eight days,

1630
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: they have the draft coming up in seven weeks. But

1631
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: getting you in the fold is almost like, okay, that

1632
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 1: piece is in place. Is any way they sort of

1633
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: presented you now or I haven't really talked him any

1634
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: anything about that, honestly. I mean I've been doing my

1635
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: own recruiting trying to get people here. So yeah, so

1636
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna leave that out, but yeah, sure enough.

1637
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: I'm we're trying to build something great here. So the

1638
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: next step is mid April, you'll be back here for

1639
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: OTAs and that kind of thing. And when do you

1640
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: start And we talk to Kyle, he's shut it down.

1641
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean that Gus's retired. What about you? When do

1642
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: you turn it back on and start to you know,

1643
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot of guys take a few weeks,

1644
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: maybe a month or two off to recoup. What's your

1645
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: schedule and when do you get back. I know you're

1646
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: gonna be back for OTAs, but before that, when do

1647
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: you start? I mean, I'll be back when we report

1648
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: back on I think it's April fourteenth, but I've already

1649
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 1: started all my workouts and everything, just trying to get

1650
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: my body better than it ever has been. So Jordan,

1651
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: what is it about home games versus road games? And

1652
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: do you feel like you need to kind of ease

1653
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: or you know, not ease up kind of like even

1654
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: out your performance home versus road. Do you feel like

1655
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: that's a necessity for your future? Uh? Yeah, it's It's

1656
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 1: a really easy to play with a lot of energy

1657
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: on home games just because you got the crowd, you

1658
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: got everybody, and that gets me going as well. And

1659
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 1: then uh, away games is a little different, just because

1660
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: every away game I try to find one person that's

1661
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: talking a lot in the crowd and that's what gets

1662
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: me going. It's just and then I pick a fan,

1663
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: I pick a fan, and I say, all right, it's

1664
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: gonna be me and you all game. And so I

1665
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: get try to get him routed up. I try to

1666
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: go and make plays and come back and talk what

1667
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: I need to talk to him, and then go back

1668
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: out there and do it again. What comes to your

1669
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 1: mind when you think about this coming seat regular season?

1670
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: What jumps out of you most about resigning with the Bills,

1671
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: knowing what's in place here already. What's the most exciting

1672
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: aspect of it for you? Uh, just to really show

1673
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: the Bills and across the league that I'm a top

1674
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 1: DT in this league. It's been it's been a long time,

1675
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: and I've been in the shadows of a lot of great,

1676
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: great players with Sue and this last year with a Kyle,

1677
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: I feel like it's really my time and I'm not

1678
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna let it go. And you got a chance with

1679
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: a one year deal to show that and you know,

1680
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: capitalize on it at the after year, right, And that's

1681
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: got to be kind of a motivating force for you

1682
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. Well, my last two years my

1683
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: Miami you know, I thought after my third year I

1684
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 1: was going to get an extension there. Fourth year, I

1685
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna get an extension, then ended up

1686
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: getting cut and brought here and I was like, Okay,

1687
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: well my big payday is not coming, so now it's

1688
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 1: really just taking it one day at a time and

1689
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: quit looking so far ahead and do what I need

1690
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: to do. Any regrets about how it ended in Miami,

1691
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was any regrets, just because it

1692
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: just took me a little time to grow and once

1693
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: I finally grew up and was ready to do what

1694
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: I needed to do, my time there was over. But

1695
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here, and I'm happy that this

1696
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: is the place where I'm gonna flourish. We looked it up,

1697
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: your twenty six. You'll be only seven in September. This

1698
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: should be the prime of your NFL career right now.

1699
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: I would think entering into it now. And like I said,

1700
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy I'm in Buffalo to flourish. We're happy to

1701
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: have you here. Thanks for coming vitulations again, that's awesome,

1702
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks. Jordan Phillips joining us. Just signed to

1703
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: a new contract with the Bills, one year deal. You're great, dude,

1704
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 1: terms today. Happy to have him in studio. Steve and

1705
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: I coming back with more one Bills Live from One

1706
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One

1707
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bills Drive. I'm John Murphy, this

1708
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: is Steve Chatsker. Happy to have you with us here.

1709
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm really happy to have a Jordan Phillips in studio.

1710
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, you see him on the field at home

1711
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: games especially, he's all fired up and ready to go

1712
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: and into the crowd, and he's sort of subdued when

1713
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: we get him here. But there's very calm. I like

1714
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: that about him. Boy, Look, he's got the right idea here,

1715
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 1: Steve sign a one year deal. As he said, you

1716
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: know he's going into his fifth year in the league

1717
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 1: now then yea. And his career hasn't he admitted, he

1718
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been everything I wanted it to be, right, and

1719
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: now he's got a chance one year deal. He'll be

1720
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: a free agency twenty six if he so. I look

1721
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: it up, he played twenty five percent of the defensive

1722
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: snaps in his time in Buffalo last year. If he

1723
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: plays fifty percent and plays well, he'll break the bank.

1724
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: If he hits a free agent market next year, he

1725
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: really will. And that's got to be what's in the

1726
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: back of his mind a little bit, along with helping

1727
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: the Bills win, which he mentioned over and over and

1728
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: over again. Yeah, he's sitting in a great spot. I

1729
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: think he made a very wise decision signing a short

1730
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: term deal with Buffalo. I think Buffalo is very happy

1731
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: to have him back. It gives them some stability up front.

1732
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: A guy who knows their system and has been and

1733
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: played well in it, who knows their culture, fits their culture,

1734
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: and is one of those guys on game day. That

1735
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: gives him a little something, you know. I think it's

1736
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: a win win all the way around, and we'll see

1737
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: if Jordan Phillips can springboard into something more lucrative after

1738
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: he has a great year in Buffalo. Happy to have

1739
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: him here. Coming up a two o'clock Cynthia Freeland from

1740
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,879
Speaker 1: NFL Network. We'll go back and review some of the measurements,

1741
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: some of the things going out to combine with her.

1742
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: She's an expert on mathematics and analytics, and we'll talk

1743
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: with Cynthia Freeland. Coming up at two o'clock. We've got

1744
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: time for you right here eight oh three oh five

1745
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

1746
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: two five fifty our question over the next couple of

1747
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: months here seven weeks until the draft, what can the

1748
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 1: Bills do personnel wise that will help Josh Allen the

1749
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: most this offseason? What can they do to help them

1750
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: the most? You know they they gotta do a lot,

1751
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: have a lot of a needs personnel wise. But what

1752
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: can they do the most to help Josh Allen this offseason?

1753
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: Give us a call, let us know what you think,

1754
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 1: or you can weigh in in our Twitter poll. On

1755
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: the poll right now, what can the Bills do to

1756
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: help Josh Allen the most? Seventy one percent say rebuild

1757
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: the offensive line, twenty four percent say pick up some

1758
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers, two percent say add a tight end, or

1759
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: two and two percent of something else in mind eight

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01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. If you'd like to discuss

1762
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 1: Rich and Clarence has been waiting pay he'd like to

1763
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: discuss Rich, Go ahead, you're on the air. Hey, hi, guys, Hi,

1764
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: I have to I have to agree with Steve offensive

1765
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: line un office line for running game and which would

1766
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: help Josh Allen also keep him upright and able to

1767
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: have time to pass the ball. That's what I'm That's

1768
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: why I'm agreeing with Steve. As far as offensive lineman, John,

1769
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Oh my son Mark Trainer.

1770
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: He works the scoreboards at the Bills games. Oh yeah, yep,

1771
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that's my son. Oh cool, excellent, Thanks Dad, Rich,

1772
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: Thanks Rich, nice talking, Thanks checking. And I agree with

1773
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: Steve too. I think offensive line. But I understand why

1774
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 1: people might vote receiver Steve, especially if there's a premium

1775
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: receiving talent, which some people believe Dk Metcalf could be. Um,

1776
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: it'd be hard to pass him up for an offensive

1777
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: lineman in the first round. If met and the Bills

1778
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: have to do and they will do the work the

1779
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: next seven weeks to examine Metcalf and see exactly what

1780
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: he might provide. But if he's available there at nine,

1781
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: boy'd be hard to pass him up and go for

1782
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 1: an offensive line in there, because the need is great

1783
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: at both positions. I believe. I don't know, I certainly,

1784
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: and we can look this up. I mean, Um, he

1785
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: came out of Old miss and there their pro day.

1786
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: I've got all these pro days here. He's coming up

1787
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: in mid March. I think he got to go in there.

1788
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: And look at him and let him run routes and

1789
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: get you know, you gotta dig deep on this guy

1790
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: if you're going to draft him high in the in

1791
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: the in the draft, you got to find out about him.

1792
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: And that means watching the guy move, coaching him, giving

1793
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: him things to do on the field, and see if

1794
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: he can get him done. Uh, talking to his coaches.

1795
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean you got to do a deep

1796
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: dive and maybe this guy does turn out to be,

1797
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 1: you know, something special. But until he's something special based

1798
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: on the comb and look, I'm only saying based on

1799
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,799
Speaker 1: the combine tests, yeah, met Keff could be something special.

1800
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: I want to know more based on the combine. His

1801
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: pro day is March twenty ninth at Old Miss and

1802
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: it's at nine am, and you can bet the Bills

1803
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: are going to be standing there with front row seats

1804
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: along with a lot of other people. Yeah, that's that's

1805
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: a guy that you listen physical specimens like him. And

1806
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: we get to go through this every year at the

1807
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: draft time and then with the combine, these guys they

1808
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: get off the bus and it's like, Wow, look at

1809
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: that guy. How can he not be an All Pro player?

1810
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: Why don't you see those guys every year, and not

1811
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: very many of them turn out to be that way.

1812
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: So there's always something that drags him down or keeps

1813
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: him from being exactly or everything that you think they

1814
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: could be just by looking at him and would testing him,

1815
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: and you know, measure how tall and high and how

1816
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: much they can jump. There's so much, so many things

1817
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: you don't know. So your ability to find all that

1818
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,560
Speaker 1: stuff out says how good that guy's going to be

1819
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: and how badly you've got to have him. And I

1820
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: don't know though. Number nine pick. That's a big jump

1821
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: for a redshirt sophomore. Yeah, if he's great, I don't care.

1822
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Well I don't either, But you don't know if he's

1823
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna be great. You don't know he's great until five

1824
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: years down the road. Well you might know sooner than that.

1825
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: I hope you can know some maybe on the tweet sheet,

1826
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,799
Speaker 1: what will help Josh Allen the most of this offseason?

1827
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: Nick tweets and Bills need a solid old line and

1828
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: several weapons at it. If he has some time he's

1829
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: talking about Josh, he's proving he can hit the big play.

1830
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Give him weapons. Capitalized draft then signed free agents, capitalize

1831
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: need at least two free agent wide receivers and one

1832
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver drafted in the top two rounds. In my opinion,

1833
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: very specific, very good. Thank you, Nick, I like that.

1834
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: Good one. Tom Lovell tweets this in the need for

1835
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: receiver is not as bad as we think. Zay Jones

1836
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: is prime for a breakout year because most smaller quick

1837
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: receivers take a few years to find steady production. Look

1838
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: at Antonio Brown, Hopkins, etc. We all love what Foster

1839
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: has to offer. We do love what Foster has to offer.

1840
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm buying into the theory that

1841
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Zay Jones is prime for a breakout year because of

1842
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: most smaller quick receivers. I don't know. I'd need some

1843
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: evidence of that. I think that's a stretch and I

1844
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 1: need to see more from Zay than I've seen you

1845
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: up until the last half dozen games last year. I

1846
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: thought he was a bit of a disappointment last year.

1847
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: Ze Yeah, And I think that that remains to be

1848
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: seen is how good he's gonna be and how what

1849
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: he has more to offer. I think it's maybe on

1850
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: Zay Jones if you're looking at it critically. Why was

1851
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: Robert Foster able to come in and kind of steal

1852
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: the show at the end of the And this was

1853
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: an undrafted guy in Robert Foster. So you I mean

1854
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: you would think a high draft, a higher draft pick

1855
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: than Zay Jones, a guy drafted as high as he was,

1856
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: would be able to hold a guy like Robert Foster

1857
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 1: off and exert himself. But he didn't do that. We

1858
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: also have a from Matt Rowley on the tweet sheet

1859
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: and this it gets into all the moving parts we've

1860
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: been talking about all this talk about drafting or signing

1861
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and free agency. Do you think the

1862
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Bills could trade for a number one wide receiver from

1863
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: a team maybe trying to break it down and rebuild,

1864
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: like AJ Green from the Bengals. Perhaps, Yeah, that's always

1865
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: a possibility. I think Here's here's what you can look

1866
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: for though, right Murphy, either back me up or tear

1867
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: me down on this pleasure. If guys like AJ Green

1868
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 1: of his caliber, Julio Jones, AJ Green, DeAndre Hopkins, t

1869
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: Y Hilton go down the list. If guys like that

1870
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: are going to become available on the trade market, you

1871
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: get you hear it. You hear that first before you

1872
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: hear about the deal, right, And I haven't heard anything

1873
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: about those guys being available in a trade in fact

1874
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: one just looking it up here. AJ Green, entering the

1875
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: final year of his contract with the Bengals, reportedly the

1876
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: Bengals are highly unlikely to trade him. Yeah, they lost

1877
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: thirty years old. To do you want to trade a

1878
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: ton to get a thirty year old receiver? Yes, I'm

1879
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: sure he's got effective years left, But wouldn't you rather

1880
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: have a younger guy than thirty? At least you know,

1881
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven, so you can think we're gonna

1882
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: have him for seven years, eight years? AJ Green? How

1883
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: long will he be effective? At age thirty, thirty one,

1884
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: three or four years? I'll tell you what. I don't

1885
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: mind this either, Murth and let me float this little

1886
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: balloon out there, do it. Why not sign a guy

1887
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: like AJ Green? Or find guy like AJ Green? Signed

1888
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: him to a one year deal? Why if he's thirty

1889
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: years old, tell him to prove it, make it worth

1890
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: it for him, and then be in the same boat

1891
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: next year. I don't know about that. Yeah, I mean,

1892
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 1: if you're Super Bowl, but I do you won't be

1893
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: in the same boat next year because next year you

1894
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: theoretically will have three offensive linemen signed the longer term

1895
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: deals and they won't be all up. You won't be

1896
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: looking for sixteen holes in your offensive line. You can

1897
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: just you can draft a high receiver high in the draft.

1898
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: Next year. You know what I mean. You won't be

1899
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,719
Speaker 1: in the same position. Next year. You'll have one position

1900
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: like wide receiver, where you got to replace one guy,

1901
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: one major guy, hopefully one superstar guy. That doesn't mean

1902
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: you can't resign him, but you'll have some of these

1903
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: holes fixed this year. Look, I want I want to

1904
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: I think that seems like a scrambly way to do it, though.

1905
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I want to get a young or rookie white receiver

1906
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: who can grow with Josh Allen signed the thirty one

1907
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 1: year old guy, thirty year old guy, and say, well,

1908
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: maybe we'll get somebody else next year. It's kind of

1909
01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: like it's a stop gap. That's what you do when

1910
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: we need one piece to championship. I don't know. I

1911
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: think you do that. I think you do that if

1912
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: you find a guy that can help you win games

1913
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 1: now and if you if you can listen, you can

1914
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: worry about next year. Next year, you got these guys,

1915
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some guys lined up in this draft.

1916
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're gonna get out of these twelve pick these

1917
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: ten picks that the Bills have, only three of them

1918
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: are in the top seventy, in the top one hundred,

1919
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 1: So you're gonna hopefully you can find maybe two and

1920
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: a half to three players out of these ten that

1921
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: are actually gonna go in this year and plug in

1922
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, he's helping us. He may not be

1923
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: a star, but at least he's helping us. You can

1924
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: do that and she'll be a stop gap. Yeah, but

1925
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: you might have a better stop gap next year than

1926
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: you do this year. You might not even get a

1927
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: better guy. Might not. You know what I'm saying, Well,

1928
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 1: you can always find a guy. I mean, it's not

1929
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: like nobody wants to play for you. I mean that's

1930
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: I think the league has changed to a certain point,

1931
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Like we get we are still You and me are

1932
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: old guys, and I remember that, and I think this too.

1933
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: You think you can put a team together and hold

1934
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 1: it together for five, eight, ten years, I set up

1935
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 1: for three or four. It doesn't happen. Even for three

1936
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: or four. Now it doesn't because there's too many guys

1937
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: that are being thrown to the curb their contracts out.

1938
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: He wants too much money, he outplays his contract. Now

1939
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: you've got to pay him, and you can't pay him.

1940
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: I think now the league is such that you've got

1941
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 1: to keep guys on shorter term contracts and make sure

1942
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: you're flexible enough every offseason to fill certain holes, different

1943
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: holes than he did the year before. So I don't

1944
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 1: have a problem sign an older guy for a year.

1945
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: I'd know they have a long term solution. But I

1946
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: get you. But you know, that's how you get Marcel Darius.

1947
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, you get a guy, you sign it, pay

1948
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 1: him all that money he takes out a year. Now

1949
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: you wish you didn't have him. That's a whole different story.

1950
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: We're the same same results of the same problem. No, oh,

1951
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: yes it is. We got the Cythay Freeland coming up

1952
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: from the NFL Network to a little combine recap with her.

1953
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: Come on back for that One Bill side presented by

1954
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: allat of Health from One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo

1955
01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio All Hills Radio Network Sports d update comes

1956
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive where the Bills are getting a

1957
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: little bit busy, as is the rest of the NFL.

1958
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: The Bills have signed defensive tackle Jordan Phillips to a

1959
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: one year contract extension. He would scheduled to hit the

1960
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: free agent market next week when free agency begins. He

1961
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: is an energetic interior defensive lineman who played in place

1962
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: of Kyle Williams got twenty five percent of the snaps

1963
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. Phillips, a former second round pickup

1964
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 1: the Dolphins in twenty fifteen, came to the Bills after

1965
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: six games last season contributed nineteen tackles, including two for losses.

1966
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: A four year venteran Jordan Phillips resigned to the Buffalo

1967
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: Bills for just one year. Bills are gonna bring back

1968
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: defensive end Eddie Yarbrough for another year. Recording to ESPN,

1969
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 1: he was a rotational player along the Bill's defensive line

1970
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: for the last two seasons and exclusive rights free agent

1971
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: and Eddie Yarbrough, who appeared in fifteen games for the

1972
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: Bills last season, has agreed to terms. The former Patriots

1973
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,879
Speaker 1: tight end Dwayne Allen making some free agent visits. Reportedly,

1974
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: he will visit with the Buffalo Bills later today. The Bills,

1975
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Dolphins, the Lions, also have expressed interest

1976
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: in Dwayne Allen, the seven year VET who's played with

1977
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Patriots, five years with the Colts,

1978
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: last year with the Patriots. In his last two seasons,

1979
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: former third round pick of the Colts viewed as a

1980
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: strong blocking tight end. Around the NFL free agency looms

1981
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: eight days away, the New York Giants are ready to

1982
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: move on from big safety Land and Collins. They are

1983
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: unlikely to franchise tag to safety with the deadline coming

1984
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: up at five o'clock today. New York loves Collins, but

1985
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: they viewed the tag number for safeties to be too high.

1986
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers, losers of eight of their last ten games,

1987
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: returned to practice today at t Back Center, getting set

1988
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: for their next game Thursday night in Chicago. The Sabers,

1989
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 1: after last night's four three loss to the Edmonton Oilers,

1990
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: now nine points out of the second wildcard spot, the

1991
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: final playoff spot. Last night, the Sabers blew a three

1992
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 1: one leave and lost to Evanton by a score of

1993
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: four to three. And college basketball, the nineteenth ranked you

1994
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: Beat Bulls hit the road, playing at Ohio one final

1995
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: road game. They scored one hundred fourteen points when they

1996
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,719
Speaker 1: beat the Bobcats in the first game earlier this season,

1997
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: they've won twenty six and another victory for UBI would

1998
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 1: tie the school record set last year with twenty seven wins.

1999
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve

2000
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Tasker in Orchard Park and our One Buffalo Studio joined

2001
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 1: on the Subway Fresh Talk Hotline by one of our

2002
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: favorite guests. She is the network analytics expert for the

2003
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: NFL Network, Cynthia Freeland, fresh off of her standout performance

2004
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 1: at the NFL Scouting Combine, Your stock one up with

2005
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 1: the combine, Cynthia, I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that.

2006
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I'm sad I didn't get to

2007
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: see you there. Yeah, I know you were busy. They

2008
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: had you locked up over in the dome most of

2009
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: the time, right Lucas Roll Stadium. Yeah, we were there

2010
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: for like twelve hours a day, so we definitely spent

2011
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: I definitely got my fill of Lucas yea. What was

2012
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: your impression overall of this combine? I know, I don't

2013
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: know how many combines you've been to, but what struck

2014
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: you about this particular twenty nineteen edition. So the interesting

2015
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: part about this combine were really the number. I mean,

2016
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: obviously this is a very defensive draft, Like there are

2017
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: just some athletes in this draft. I was a little

2018
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: surprised at how well the wide receivers tested as well.

2019
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, we knew the defensive ends and linemen, and

2020
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: we knew that that was going to be like kind

2021
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: of the big focus right edge rushers and linebackers. We

2022
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: knew it was going to be an asty draft for them.

2023
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I wasn't expecting the wide receivers

2024
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 1: to be such burners and to have, you know, kind

2025
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: of all these sort of great results. So I don't

2026
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: know what's in the water. Mississippi State and Ole Miss

2027
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 1: in Michigan and all these places with these guys who

2028
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 1: just like like some of the results to blow my

2029
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: mind just what kind of athletes they are, you know,

2030
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 1: Cynthia and so you brought out the receiver and Steve

2031
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 1: and I have had kind of an ongoing discussion today. Look,

2032
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 1: I know there's seven weeks until the draft. I'm not

2033
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: saying draft the guy now he signed his combine performance,

2034
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, dk Metcalf showed me enough with

2035
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: the combine to make me want to spend the next

2036
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: seven weeks learning more about him. I mean, there's a

2037
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: chance this guy could be really, really something special, something different,

2038
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: don't you think. Yeah, I mean he ran faster and

2039
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: jumped higher than Julio Jones at almost the same height.

2040
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 1: So not again, that's not to say he's going to

2041
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: be Julio Jones, but just to give you a mental

2042
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: picture of what you're working with athletically, he's insane. He

2043
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: also is about the nicest kid that I met there.

2044
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 1: You know, he hit recovering from a neck injury where

2045
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: he didn't think he was going to be able to

2046
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: kind of be participating. He's like, I don't even He's like,

2047
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't. He came up, but we did an interview

2048
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: with him and he was like, you know, I didn't

2049
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: think I was going to be here, and he had

2050
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,639
Speaker 1: tears in his eyes and he was calling his mom

2051
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 1: and he was just so grateful. He's just like such

2052
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:48,560
Speaker 1: a like he's the kind of guy you want to

2053
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: root for, for sure, but I'm not. You know, obviously

2054
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: I do analytics, so I can't let that cloud my judgment.

2055
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: But I do know, you know, if he ended up

2056
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, he would be a fan favorite very fast.

2057
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: At least that got that personality. Yeah, the only the

2058
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: only red flag that came up with him was his

2059
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: three cone drill wasn't all that good. But how does

2060
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 1: that equate? I know you've done a lot of analytics

2061
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: about what was important and what numbers are important in

2062
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 1: these things. What do you think about a guy who

2063
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 1: tests out so positively in so many ways and then

2064
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: has sort of a hole in his statistics that it's

2065
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 1: not even remotely important. The three cone drill is a

2066
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 1: good one for agility, But if you're saying, is the

2067
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 1: decame that CAP's gonna run laterally in space, like in

2068
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: within such a small like such a small area that's

2069
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: not even a route that's on the route tree, like

2070
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: I guess maybe like a slant that went horribly wrong,

2071
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: but it's throw that out. Don't, honestly don't just in

2072
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: the same way, also, don't over analyze his four three, three, forty,

2073
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 1: don't over like, don't make any of it too great, right.

2074
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: The point is is that the ones that do matter,

2075
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: like his vert, the first ten split of his forty,

2076
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: which is like initial birth, all of those things fell

2077
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: with an elite Rangers and then that just says, Okay,

2078
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm going back to watch this film and to make

2079
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: sure that what I saw from him in college and

2080
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 1: by the way he was injured to the is returning

2081
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 1: from an injury. So that's something people are going to

2082
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: have to take into consideration very strongly. And then that's

2083
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: what you look at, right, get over the first the

2084
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: three cone drills far more important for defensive ends or

2085
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: people who have to move in short area spaces. Laterally

2086
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 1: more often on the line With Cynthia Freeland, NFL Network

2087
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: Analytics Experts experts, Cynthia, it's important to note that your

2088
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 1: analysis deals with what fifteen years of combined results, and

2089
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 1: you compare position groups against each other based on those

2090
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 1: fifteen years of results. That's how you get to your

2091
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 1: suppositions about who's playing well who's not at the combine. Right,

2092
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: So the way I did it was I took NFL

2093
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 1: data like who they became, because there's a lot of

2094
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 1: things that are unknown. So for example, are you playing

2095
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: a forty three defense or a thirty forty defense? Right? Like?

2096
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Is it a defense with a lot of exotic fronts

2097
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: or not? Like? These are the things that matter once

2098
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 1: you get developed and what happens in the week. So

2099
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: I take fifteen seasons of NFL data, so who they

2100
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: were in the NFL National Football League, and then I

2101
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Speaker 1: create worked with coaches to create profiles by position of

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Speaker 1: what the most important attributes are. So you know, Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown is elite because of these things. So I bucketed

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Speaker 1: every single player in the National Football League. They get

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Speaker 1: three years to become who they are, and then I

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Speaker 1: went worked backwards. So once we profiled everyone into five buckets,

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Speaker 1: then I went backwards and I put everything that was

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Speaker 1: known about them on a piece of paper and I

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Speaker 1: created so from their college resume to combine results, and

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Speaker 1: I looked for correlations. So I found the things that

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Speaker 1: were most correlated to success. But I worked it backwards

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Speaker 1: because you and I and everyone else know that the

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Speaker 1: philosophy that a team plays with and the amount of

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Speaker 1: like you know, training and who you get to work

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Speaker 1: with and how how you know Patrick Mahomes had the

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Speaker 1: luxury of not having to start year one things like that, Right,

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Speaker 1: you get three years to become you are, and then

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Speaker 1: it work at a forwards to find the look alike

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Speaker 1: from the past. What I got to ask you now

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Speaker 1: about what and I had let me just get back

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Speaker 1: to where my question was. Hold on, yeah it is. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know, Sorry about that, Cynthia. No, you're good. Tell

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Speaker 1: me tell me about anybody in this draft and compare

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Speaker 1: them to guys who we know, guys like Julio do

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Speaker 1: what what's DK Metcalf? How does he compare to Julio Jones?

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Speaker 1: How does he compared to AJ Green? You know some

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Speaker 1: of the great receivers that you've you know, did you

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01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 1: obviously have evaluated do these numbers of these guys in

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Speaker 1: this draft? Did your assessment of them shuffle around to

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Speaker 1: the guys that are available in this draft? Yeah? So

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Speaker 1: like he does, DK Metcalf does have comparables to you know,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones or an AJ Green. However, you do have

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Speaker 1: to look at his like college body of work, and

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Speaker 1: you have to go back and you have to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: did you see him on film? Run the routes that

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Speaker 1: we would be playing with our team? Like what do

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Speaker 1: the Bills want? Is? What is it? If you were

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Speaker 1: looking for the Bills, like what strategy do we want? Bills?

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Speaker 1: You need a number one receiver? So how do we

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Speaker 1: what what role do we anticipate him playing on our team,

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Speaker 1: and then do we go see that those routes, like

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Speaker 1: the goals and the deep routes, the true number one routes,

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Speaker 1: like are those the ones that he's gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to do this? His college film match the combine results

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Speaker 1: and then also match our philosophy. So it's like three

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Speaker 1: prong event, right, So it's what do we see in college?

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Speaker 1: What do we see at the combine? How would that

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Speaker 1: relate to our philosophy? Settee. One of the things you

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Speaker 1: have done is gone through the combine now that it's over,

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Speaker 1: and came up with numbers that mattered. And look, we're

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed with numbers after the weekend of workouts, but what

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Speaker 1: were the important ones? What should NFL fans take away

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Speaker 1: from this combine in terms of the numbers that mean something?

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Speaker 1: So I thought it was interesting trend wise that this season.

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Speaker 1: So if you take all of the forty times to

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Speaker 1: wide receivers and you put an average up, this is

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Speaker 1: the first time that that average so typically, like obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know the average doesn't mean like just the fastest people, right,

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Speaker 1: everyone who's run and what they've they've averaged, and this

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Speaker 1: is actually the fastest wide receiver class overall that we've

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Speaker 1: seen since two thousand and three. So two thousand and

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Speaker 1: three is when things really became automated with the testing.

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Speaker 1: So it's easier apples to apples to compare from the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three stuff because that was when you know,

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Speaker 1: the electronic timing was in place of opposed to hand timing.

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Speaker 1: So so that's interesting. Are people faster as simple as that,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, I think it's also like the way

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Speaker 1: that they've been training, right these like I've got a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to a lot of these guys who

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Speaker 1: like a number of guys were really training with like

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Speaker 1: like they went to Kobe's gym out here in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles where it's called the like Momba Gym or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and ultimately they were doing basketball drills in order to

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Speaker 1: like help like really you know, like trained for specifically

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Speaker 1: jumping and train for specifically Like so I think it's

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Speaker 1: a greater emphasis on you know, training and how they

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Speaker 1: prepare for the combine specifically. I'm not saying it's incredibly

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Speaker 1: predictive of the future, but I do think it's interesting

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Speaker 1: that they're so able to focus and specify. I mean,

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf with one point six percent body fat. That's

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Speaker 1: just ludicrous, Like that's insane, right, So he's not going

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Speaker 1: to play at that. He's not going to play at

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Speaker 1: one point six because you actually need to be a

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Speaker 1: little heavier. You didn't have a higher fat content to

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Speaker 1: prevent injuries. So he was training for these results. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, it just shows dedication and you know,

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Speaker 1: real commitment to what they what is being asked of them, right,

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Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of how it comes across.

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Speaker 1: So if they're telling my partner Steve here, one of

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Speaker 1: the most astute comments I heard all weekend came from

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Speaker 1: your colleague Daniel Jeremiah about Metcalf when he said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: time for him to get away from the weight room

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Speaker 1: and get in onto the yoga mat. He probably would

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Speaker 1: benefit from that type of workout now, right, Yeah, why

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Speaker 1: do guys do a lot of poloates and yoga, Lorenza

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Speaker 1: like you have? You got some people out out there

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Speaker 1: on your way who talk about doing piloates all the time.

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Speaker 1: So those are more like flexibility based things. And but look,

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Speaker 1: they're asked to participate in the combine, they're asked to

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Speaker 1: get results in the combine, and then next they'll be

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Speaker 1: asked to show up a training camp in minicamp, but

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Speaker 1: all those things that are part of the NFL cycle,

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Speaker 1: so they really have it down passed from a training standpoint,

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Speaker 1: and that's where you're seeing these like freak athletes, Like

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Speaker 1: go watch Jalen Ramsey, like he and his Instagram and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You'll see he's in great shape too. It these elite

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Speaker 1: level guys are doing elite things year round, so they're

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Speaker 1: really like you're starting to see the younger guys take

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Speaker 1: to it even earlier than before. How do you see

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Speaker 1: the very top of this draft taking shape? I think

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray goes number one. I think we see I

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Speaker 1: believe that I believe Josh Rosen will be playing in Washington.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this for sure, but I believe that

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Speaker 1: he will. I have strong indications that he will be

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Speaker 1: headed to Washington and Kyler to Arizona. And then I

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Speaker 1: think some defensive players will go off the board quickly.

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Speaker 1: I think Quinn and Williams is going to be from

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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle out of Alabama. He had like what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say is his combined results were exactly

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Speaker 1: within the ranges that show like that help predict for

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Speaker 1: someone to become above average or elite in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: But they weren't like super Burnery right, Like Rashaun Gary,

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Speaker 1: he's an edge defender, had an even better day. But

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Speaker 1: when I got a chance to talk to some of

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Speaker 1: the defensive coaches and they talk about footwork, and they

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Speaker 1: talk about how many steps before you have to be

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Speaker 1: headed towards the quarterback. By the way the answers, that

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Speaker 1: is five. Like when they talk about this footwork, it's

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Speaker 1: like everything he did on film matched, everything that happened

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Speaker 1: at the combine, matched how he interviewed. That's the one

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Speaker 1: who I think, like, if I had to say, who's

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Speaker 1: the guy who I think is going to be a

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Speaker 1: pro bowler really quickly, I think it might be that.

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Speaker 1: I think it might be Quinn and Williams. Back to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback for a second, Cynthy, I love what you

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Speaker 1: did post combine when you talked about people, position groups,

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Speaker 1: stock up, stock down, and on the quarterback. Helo guy.

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Speaker 1: I love him. I'm rooting for him big time. Yeah

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Speaker 1: you had I rejected, Yeah, tell me what you thought.

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Speaker 1: I him six seven really heavy. I think it was

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Speaker 1: like forty something I can't remember two forty nine. He

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Speaker 1: ran like a four or five six forty which is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is ridiculous, but when I watched

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Speaker 1: their faces and when I watched to see if they're

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Speaker 1: having fun and really like you know, like listening and

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Speaker 1: just enjoying the moment, Like this kid was just crushing it.

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Speaker 1: His you know, people were talking about nobody, nobody, and

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Speaker 1: no offense. They know people you're in your area knew

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Speaker 1: who he was, but nobody really knew who he was

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Speaker 1: nationally prior. But he made such a great impression on

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Speaker 1: literally everyone, Like everyone was talking about his base was great.

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Speaker 1: There's only one quarterback who measured taller than him in

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Speaker 1: the fifteen year sample. Do you have any guests who

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Speaker 1: it is? Um, Nope, it's Mike Glenn. He's taller. He's

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Speaker 1: taller than brock Off spoilers, So it's rare he's had

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Speaker 1: such a tall quarterback. But he made such a great impression,

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Speaker 1: and people were like, you know what this kid's like.

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Speaker 1: You know, like I'm I'm liking what I'm seeing here,

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Speaker 1: so I know I'm personally like I just was a

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Speaker 1: fan of how he handled himself and he had the

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Speaker 1: it factor. He had the great swagger, like some of

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Speaker 1: these things that when you talk to you know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: football is always like a marriage of like you know,

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Speaker 1: the numbers and the philosophy and what you see on

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Speaker 1: the field. And people were really, you know, people around

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Speaker 1: the league up because I was like, who's your favorite

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01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,719
Speaker 1: sleeper amongst these four? And I asked, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: get anyone to say anyone other than him. He's got,

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Speaker 1: in fact, his pro days right on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the building here where we are. Next week, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're looking forward to that. Next week. He's going to

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Speaker 1: be throwing here brow. He just looks like he's having

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Speaker 1: a great times. Yeah. I know that's stupid, but he's

2274
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Speaker 1: having a great time. And like his base was great.

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Speaker 1: People were happy with his throws. He made a good impression.

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Speaker 1: I really truly hope, you know, he gets the champ.

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Speaker 1: And one more quarterback, I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: doing your stock up stock down. Kyler Murray didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything at the combine and yet you hit a stock

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Speaker 1: going up. How did he accomplish at Literally the only

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Speaker 1: thing anyone was worried about with him was his measurables?

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Speaker 1: Is he tall enough. I don't think anyone went to

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Speaker 1: the combine team wise that thought he's gonna throw. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone thought he was. Maybe people thought

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Speaker 1: he would participate in some of the drills, but I

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01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: think everyone was kind of like, nah, I think he

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Speaker 1: just needs to get measured. And there was like this threshold,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's got to be at least five ten.

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Speaker 1: If he measures in five ten or below, oh it's oh,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be terrible for him. Blah blah blah. He

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Speaker 1: measured in at five ten and one eight, which is

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01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 1: hilarious to me. But that was all it took. And

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01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 1: he just had nine and a half inch hands hand

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Speaker 1: size attempting, especially in cold weather climates that people are

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Speaker 1: really concerned about, right, So that like nine inch nine

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Speaker 1: inches or nine nine minute a quarter inches, it's really

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Speaker 1: the smallest it can be. So he's in the range

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Speaker 1: nine and a half is fully fine, fully fine where

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Speaker 1: he needs to be. And he was heavier than people thought.

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Speaker 1: He was like killed seven or two oh eight. So

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask him. I was going to ask

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Speaker 1: you about that, Cynthia. Is there any any question about

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Speaker 1: him putting on weight? Just for the Combine and not

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Speaker 1: being able to function athletically like he has in college

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Speaker 1: at that weight. You know, that's a great question. I think.

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Speaker 1: Here here's how I feel like people are viewing Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: I think people are viewing him as if you want

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Speaker 1: to if you if you want to play that style,

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Speaker 1: he's great. I feel like a lot of a lot

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01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 1: of people are kind of like like I think Arizona

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01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 1: like loves him, and then after that, I'm not really

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01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: sure people are more like it kind of feels like

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01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 1: like the if I was taking the temperature of the room,

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01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,679
Speaker 1: it says, you know, Kyler's gone real quick. Um, we're

2315
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 1: looking at either like Dwayne Haskins or Prulock or Garrett

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01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 1: Sidham actually had a really nice combine as well. M

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Speaker 1: Last question I have for you, and it's back to

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01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: your stock up stock down? Offensive lineman who had a

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01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 1: good week at the combine. Maybe that's Jonah Williams. Yeah,

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01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams out of Alabama. Was he kind of like

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01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 1: was who he thought he'd be, you know what I mean,

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01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: Like everyone thought he'd be the best, and he tested

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01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: that way, But you know I was really I obviously,

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01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 1: so I went to Boston College for undergrad So and

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01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 1: I am telling you there's I was, there's no bias here,

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01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: but I'm I had to talk about Chris Libs from

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01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 1: because people were drawing comparisons between him and Cody Whitehair,

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01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 1: who's another kind of I'm gonna say not ideal size

2329
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,679
Speaker 1: or like weird sized person playing tackles who they'll probably

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01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 1: you know, they'll move him inside. Chris lins had even

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01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 1: been taking some snaps under center, right, So that's it's

2332
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 1: drawn that sort of bears Cody white Hair. You know,

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01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 1: that's a really nice comparison, really nice comparison. Pro bowl

2334
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 1: or no big deal, just a really good dude. So, um,

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01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 1: he drew a lot of comparisons there. He really he

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01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 1: did some some great things for himself. He tested really well,

2337
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: His interviews went really well. Um, that's the big deal.

2338
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: Especially for the O line position, those interviews for guys

2339
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: like that, are they take those really really seriously? Yeah, Hey, Cynthio,

2340
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 1: be happy to know that my partner, Steve Tasker here

2341
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 1: is going to do an in depth analysis of the

2342
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: last six years of our guests on the show and

2343
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: ran the analytical analytics and you, yeah, you're gonna get

2344
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 1: a good grade. I think we'll see. We'll let you

2345
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 1: make that great. Go high. Mathematicians are always welcome. Thank you, Cynthia.

2346
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 1: Great talking with you. Yeah, great talking to you. Talk

2347
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 1: Thanks Cynthia Freeland, NFL Network analytics expert. You can catch

2348
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 1: your work on NFL dot com and on the NFL Network.

2349
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: Joined us on the Subway Fresh State Hotline presented by

2350
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,560
Speaker 1: Subway restaurants, probably locally owned an operator. You know what,

2351
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 1: I didn't ask Steve just because I thought she probably

2352
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: was getting tired of listening to us. But there there's

2353
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: a whole and I'm ranted to people over the weekend.

2354
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: Where were you combined? What the heck is that is

2355
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 1: that that underwear Olympics? Nobody pays attention to it. No, Look,

2356
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,599
Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's measurements, it's medical tests,

2357
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 1: and it's and it's tests on the field, and it

2358
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 1: does have meaning. It's not the deciding factor on who

2359
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 1: gets drafted where, but it's important. Uh. Information that can

2360
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 1: be analyzed, as Cynthia does so well, analyze and dissected,

2361
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: and you can rank people. It's just another point of reference.

2362
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 1: And this guy has a chance to be a better

2363
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 1: player than this guy. But some of the stuff that

2364
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: goes on to the combine, it's not that any factor. Yeah,

2365
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 1: and here's the thing. These teams have been watching film

2366
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: on all of these players for months, all the way

2367
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: through their seasons this past year. Some of these guys

2368
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 1: are sophomores, ridshirt sophomores. Some of these guys, the teams

2369
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 1: didn't even know we're gonna be available in this draft.

2370
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 1: They might not even come out to declare for the draft.

2371
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 1: So they watch all these guys on film, and what

2372
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 1: the combine is is the first chance for all these teams.

2373
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: And these let's face it, they're they're experts, as much

2374
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 1: of an expert as you can be. They go in

2375
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: there and they look at these guys and they evaluate them.

2376
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:37,600
Speaker 1: They've seen a hundred kids just like them and this

2377
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 1: and they evaluate why this kid's going to be different,

2378
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Why is he going to be good? And this other

2379
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 1: one over here who looked a lot like him, was bad.

2380
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: They get paid to make those calls. And the combine

2381
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 1: is information that these teams chisel in stone and they

2382
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 1: find out about them and they and they evaluate them

2383
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 1: on that. So it is important and they take it

2384
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 1: very seriously. That's how this thing started. Yea. And because

2385
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 1: they all everybody was spending all this money trying to

2386
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 1: go out and find guys and look for guys and stuff.

2387
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 1: And they say, listen, we all all of a sudden

2388
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 1: they look around, and every time they go to a school,

2389
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 1: the same other teams are, They're looking at the same guys, say,

2390
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 1: why don't we bring these guys in? Save ourselves a

2391
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 1: ton of money, a ton of time. All we're doing

2392
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 1: really is finding out if they really are as tall

2393
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 1: as they say they are, and as heavy as they

2394
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 1: say they are, and as fast as they say they are.

2395
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 1: Let's see. And so when they started doing it, and

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01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 1: then they started expanding what they what else they did?

2397
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:31,640
Speaker 1: I want to say, can we interview this kid? I

2398
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 1: want to sit down and talk with it all in

2399
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,400
Speaker 1: one place. Let's say you know what, how you know

2400
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 1: we other thing that correlates with success explosion. Let's see

2401
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: how high they can jump off two feet, Let's see

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01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 1: how far they can jump off two feet, you know.

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01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,800
Speaker 1: And then they started adding this other stuff in, and

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01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 1: now they're selling tickets well, and then did we talk

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01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 1: about We talked about the combine for over a week

2406
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: now did we talk about this. I heard the rumor

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01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 1: down in Indie last week that there's some people think,

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01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, the greedy network people think that maybe the

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01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: combines should be spread out over two weekends to make

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01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 1: it two weekends of national TV. It's on. It was

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01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: on ESPN and ABC and the NFL network this past weekend.

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01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 1: That'd be a lot. I mean, that would be kind

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01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 1: of you know, I know the league does a good

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01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 1: job of making sure that every nickel is collected, but

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01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: that would be a little too much out. I would

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01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: not be surprised if it goes on live primetime. Yeah,

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01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 1: I've heard that too. Yeah, because here's the thing. These

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01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 1: are these are kids from college Football's face it, it's

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01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: a big industry, and there are a lot of people

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01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 1: who are fans of these kids. Yeah, they know these guys.

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01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: They want to see what they look like. They want

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01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 1: to see their guy from their school and their conference

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01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: do well. They want to see the Toledo fans want

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01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 1: to see their guys go up there and compete. UB

2425
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 1: fans want to see Tyree Jackson throw against Kyler Murray.

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01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 1: Let's see it. You know, it's pretty compelling for people

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01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: who are fans of the sport and particularly not even

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01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 1: fans of the NFL, but fans of college football. Highest

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01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: rated sports programming on this winner for sure or this

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01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: month for sure February March. Yeah, higher than NBA games,

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01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 1: higher than NCAA basketball. Wasn't higher than the AF Oh

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01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 1: yeah yeah sure took a number hockey, not even a

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01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 1: blip on the screen, Steve. I just had to throw

2434
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 1: that in and to get you rilled up coming back

2435
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 1: with more. Hey, I want to we want to play

2436
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 1: one more combine thing for you when we come back.

2437
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen joined us last week, I think last Friday

2438
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: might have been. And it's really cool things the saying

2439
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: interesting things to say about his Buffalo Bills and the

2440
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 1: Bills secondary defensive backfield. He thinks they're one of the

2441
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 1: best in the league. We'll play that for him we

2442
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 1: come back, NFL true and false when we come back,

2443
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: and you can get involved in our topic of the day.

2444
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: What will help Josh Allen the most of this offseason

2445
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: in terms of personnel is an offensive line, receivers, tight end,

2446
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: something else. Give us a call or away in via Twitter.

2447
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: The phone lines are open eight oh three five fifty

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty Coming back One Bill's Live, presented by Come Out

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01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 1: of Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

2451
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. John Murphy's Deep Tasker.

2452
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 1: About a half hour left of the show. Show has

2453
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 1: gone quickly today, Steve, doesn't it feel like it? It's

2454
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 1: because of the stellar Twitter poll we had. Hey, Twitter

2455
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 1: pole's not bad. Let's check it now. Twitter Pole's an

2456
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: offense to nature. Now that you've mentioned it, I want

2457
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: to seventy seventy percent, offensive line rebuild is the most

2458
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 1: important thing to help Josh Allen. Let's give it some

2459
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 1: context to what will help Josh Allen the most this offseason.

2460
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 1: That's our Twitter poll, and we've got good response, and

2461
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 1: it is definitely one sided, and I agree with the responses,

2462
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 1: but I do think it's a question that has to

2463
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 1: be asked, and I'd like to read the results to you,

2464
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: so I will what will help Josh Allen the most

2465
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 1: of this offseason. We're almost two and three hours into it,

2466
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 1: and seventy one percent of I respond and say offensive

2467
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 1: line rebuild will help him the most. Twenty five percents

2468
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 1: a acquisition of wide receiver will help him the most.

2469
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 1: Three percent say adding tight ends, two percent say something else,

2470
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 1: and I get it. I agree. We've had wow, twenty

2471
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 1: eight hundred responses on this and I get it. Seventy

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01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 1: percent say offensive line rebuild. I hope that's what they do.

2473
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't ignore wide receivers. Well they won't, They're

2474
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 1: not going to. But I think if you fix the

2475
01:58:21,000 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 1: offensive line, everything else gets better automatically. Anyway, they'll receive,

2476
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 1: even the receivers that were also willingly you know, seem

2477
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 1: willing to kick to the curb already, we'll get better

2478
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 1: if if you fix the offensive line. So that's where

2479
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm totally with the poll. I mean, and that's the

2480
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 1: reason I think it's bad. Everybody thinks the same thing.

2481
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: We wait tomorrow's Twitter poll. I'm it's kind of yeah,

2482
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 1: it's on me, right. I got yeah because I was

2483
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: complaining so big time two and a half hours of that.

2484
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: Is that the way we need a Twitter poll with

2485
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 1: four options that all get twenty five percent. We've had

2486
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: close to that. We've had some good ones. Today's not

2487
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 1: one of those. You know what, personnel does not need

2488
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:05,680
Speaker 1: really attention in this offseason much from the Bills the secondary, right,

2489
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 1: and we talked about our visit to the combine. Everybody

2490
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 1: talked about Josh Allen. They did when we talk about

2491
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 1: the Bills. Met Bowen, though, former Bills safety and now

2492
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: he is part of the team for NFL Matchup on ESPN.

2493
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 1: He writes for ESPN. He does in depth tape analysis.

2494
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 1: Mett Bowen had a lot of good things to say

2495
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 1: about the Bills defensive backfield. He said they're one of

2496
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: the best in the league, which some of us think

2497
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 1: he's right on with that. I just want to play

2498
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 1: that again, seem want to talk of that a little bit.

2499
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen, former Bills safety, now analysts for NFL Matchup

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01:59:36,320 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 1: on ESPN, says the Bills secondary is one of the

2501
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: best in the league. Here's what he told us. Love

2502
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 1: the secondary, Yeah, I love the secondary. You know, you

2503
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 1: have another Hawkeye and Micah Hyde. You know, Micah's versatility,

2504
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 1: Michael's leadership is professionalism off the field. Micah Hyde is

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01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 1: a true pro. Yeah, and I think it's the best

2506
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: way you can stry. I think it's the best compilent

2507
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 1: you can get outside of being tough. And Mica is

2508
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 1: tough as well and player at safety Davis White, Tradevious White.

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02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean I remember watching Tredevious White at the Senior

2510
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 1: Bowl and he didn't have the hype of some of

2511
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:07,600
Speaker 1: the top tirt corner Do you watched Tradevious White and

2512
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 1: Drill as you say one that this young man's been

2513
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 1: a coach extremely well and you understand that coming from

2514
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 1: LSU because of his technique, but his competitiveness, the way

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Speaker 1: he competes, and that's the first thing I look for.

2516
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 1: I do work for the SEC Network at ESPN during

2517
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 1: the draft process, and I remember watching film on Levi

2518
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 1: because he was targeted a lot. He was targeted a

2519
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 1: lot in college, but he made a lot of plays, right,

2520
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 1: He was always around the football. And again he doesn't

2521
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 1: have the elite measurables in terms of you know, with

2522
02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: being a guy use his hand. Yeah, he doesn't have

2523
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 1: a huge train. He does, yeah, but that's who he is.

2524
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 1: Kenny get bigger, Yeah, he'll get biggers as he grows

2525
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,440
Speaker 1: as a professional athlete. But that's really who he is.

2526
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 1: And again that's why we were talking about someone who

2527
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 1: competes that was all over s college film because he

2528
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 1: was targeted a lot and he was putting the adverse

2529
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 1: situations and responding. Matt Bowen talked to us last week

2530
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:59,480
Speaker 1: last Thursday, I believe in three different guys he talked

2531
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: about didn't even talk about Jordan Poyer, who I think

2532
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:04,960
Speaker 1: is outstanding too, But on Micah Hyde, he makes a

2533
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 1: good point. I think we're almost at the point, Steve,

2534
02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 1: two years into Micah Hyde's tenure with the Bills, that

2535
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 1: we take him for granted. What a fine player he is,

2536
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:14,480
Speaker 1: what a leader he is. I think with Kyle Gone,

2537
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if the Bills lean on

2538
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 1: him more Micah Hyde to be a leader in that

2539
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 1: locker room to kind of show the young guys, here's

2540
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 1: who we are, Here's what the Buffalo Bills are. Yeah,

2541
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 1: he's a feeling that's coming. And that's the thing that

2542
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 1: you have to know about. You know, we're talking about

2543
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 1: all these you know, these players that the Bills are

2544
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:31,520
Speaker 1: going to get. This team they're trying to build, there's

2545
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of new parts and a lot

2546
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 1: of new faces, and this team this year is going

2547
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 1: to be very different from the team a year ago,

2548
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:39,720
Speaker 1: even if they've got a lot of the same key

2549
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:43,000
Speaker 1: players on like Micah Hyde, Josh Allen, some of the

2550
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:45,880
Speaker 1: old Lorenzo Alexander. There's gonna be some veteran guys there

2551
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 1: who've been around for a while, but there's gonna be

2552
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,480
Speaker 1: a lot of guys around them who have just got

2553
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 1: there this year, and you need guys to fill roles.

2554
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 1: You want somebody to stand up and have the guys

2555
02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 1: look to them and have them say some things in

2556
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 1: the locker room before you go out to play. That

2557
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:04,640
Speaker 1: that gets everybody's mind in the exact same spot, so

2558
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:06,760
Speaker 1: you can play like a team. Micah Hyde may be

2559
02:02:06,920 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 1: that guy, but it's going to be a very different

2560
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,080
Speaker 1: football team this coming season, and it's going to be

2561
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:14,800
Speaker 1: interesting to see how those rules are filled. His point

2562
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,840
Speaker 1: on Turdavious White, I think is an overlooked point. Look,

2563
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:19,840
Speaker 1: we all know Tradavious is a great athlete, a great

2564
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 1: cover guy, a shutdown corner in the making right and

2565
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:27,040
Speaker 1: Matt Bowen talked about how well he has been coached

2566
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 1: at LSU and with the Buffalo Bills. He says, you

2567
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:33,640
Speaker 1: see his technique, his competitive competitiveness is there. I think

2568
02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 1: we overlooked at sometimes when it comes up Tredevius, he

2569
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 1: knows how to play. He knows a line up, he

2570
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:40,640
Speaker 1: knows how to play. It's not just physical with him, right,

2571
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:42,920
Speaker 1: It's not just about being a fast guy and and

2572
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 1: out running people and being physical line scrimmage corners and

2573
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: every great players this way, they're thinkers. The great players

2574
02:02:52,040 --> 02:02:54,560
Speaker 1: are thinkers. Tredavious White's a thinker. You watch things, You

2575
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 1: notice things about your opponent, You watch film, and you

2576
02:02:57,640 --> 02:02:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, you have a depth of knowledge about what

2577
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:01,760
Speaker 1: receivers like to do, what they're asked to do, what

2578
02:03:01,960 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 1: this team does differently than everybody else, and you take

2579
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 1: that with you onto the field, and you have the

2580
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: ability to get out ahead of what that team's doing offensively,

2581
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:12,560
Speaker 1: what this receiver is going to do. And I think

2582
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:14,480
Speaker 1: I've seen this on film. I'm gonna get it. I'm

2583
02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna get there, and I'm ahead of it. That's really

2584
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:19,240
Speaker 1: difficult to do as a corner when you're playing one

2585
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour, and Turdevious White does that, and

2586
02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:25,240
Speaker 1: he did it at a young age and having you know,

2587
02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: been coached like he has been coached, and having the

2588
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 1: personality to soak it in and make and own it.

2589
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's what it takes to be a

2590
02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 1: great player in the NFL. It's there's just no two

2591
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 1: ways about it. And the last guy that Bowen was

2592
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 1: talking about, we don't talk about him much either. Levi Wallace,

2593
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agent, comes in, starts the last six

2594
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 1: or seven games last year, and look, would it surprised

2595
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 1: me if the Bills look to get better there this

2596
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 1: offseason at corner opposite Tardevius. No, it would not surprise me.

2597
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 1: But and that's for the reasons that Bowen points out.

2598
02:03:57,360 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Can he get bigger? Yeah, he's not big, you know,

2599
02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 1: maybe not great in run support sometimes, um targeted a

2600
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:06,600
Speaker 1: lot in college, handled himself well. I think he knows

2601
02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 1: he'll be challenged with Trdavious on the other side, and

2602
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 1: I really like what they got from Levi Wallace. They

2603
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: may have to line up and play with him as

2604
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 1: a starter opening day this year, and I think that

2605
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:18,400
Speaker 1: would be okay, maybe not optimal, but okay for them,

2606
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 1: And I think he'd be comfortable there. I think, you know,

2607
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 1: after playing as many much as many snaps as he

2608
02:04:23,040 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 1: did last season and coming in getting a full lap

2609
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 1: in you know, full calendar year, in coming back and

2610
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 1: seeing how the young guys coming in and seeing how

2611
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 1: much more he knows and how much further ahead he

2612
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:36,480
Speaker 1: is than he was a year ago when he first

2613
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:39,040
Speaker 1: stepped onto the campus over at Saint John Fisher and

2614
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 1: look around saying, you know what, he'll he'll get to

2615
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 1: this point where they say, you know what, I can

2616
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 1: do this, you know, and he'll probably own it. And

2617
02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: I think that's that's gonna be huge for these guys

2618
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 1: coming back into their second year and all the way

2619
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 1: from you know, Josh Allen all the way down through

2620
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 1: guys like Levi Wallace and Tarn Johnson and guys who

2621
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,480
Speaker 1: were fresh on the scene to come back and to

2622
02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:00,920
Speaker 1: have seen everything for a full year of full season

2623
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:03,720
Speaker 1: and gain a lot of confidence from that. Another year

2624
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 1: in the system, another year of training, a year where

2625
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 1: they weren't distracted by anything else. Were they going to

2626
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 1: have a job in the NFL? Were they going to

2627
02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 1: get drafted? Were they not? Where are they going to sign?

2628
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:15,880
Speaker 1: What's it going to be like? All those questions are

2629
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:18,040
Speaker 1: answered now, and it makes some better football players as

2630
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:20,320
Speaker 1: a result. Time now for NFL. True and False brought

2631
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 1: to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's artists and geeze

2632
02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,440
Speaker 1: a couple of topics. Steve and I are going to

2633
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 1: bat around here. The Raiders should trade quarterback Derek Carr.

2634
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 1: That's what some people think. Mike Mayock told people that

2635
02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:35,080
Speaker 1: the Combine last week. Derek Carr is a franchise quarterback.

2636
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 1: I believe it. As a general manager, I think you've

2637
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:41,480
Speaker 1: got to improve, Mayock said, But it's really difficult to

2638
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 1: try to improve over a franchise quarterback like the one

2639
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:46,080
Speaker 1: we have in our building right now. Derek Carr should

2640
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 1: be traded by the Raiders. I say, false, go ahead

2641
02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:49,800
Speaker 1: and do it if you want to be in the

2642
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 1: market for a quarterback, Gruden and the Oakland Raiders. But

2643
02:05:53,080 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: you've got a guy who I think has what it

2644
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: takes to be a franchise quarterback, a good one in

2645
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:00,480
Speaker 1: this NFL right now. I would I know he should trade.

2646
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:06,160
Speaker 1: That's crazy talk. They might do it. If they do that,

2647
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 1: they yeah, they need to have somebody else running their franchise.

2648
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:14,240
Speaker 1: If they trade Derek Carr, that's crazy talk. A are

2649
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 1: you doing? If they trade? If they trade Derek Carr,

2650
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 1: something's up because something's broken over there. Because there's no

2651
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 1: way you trade Derek for the things that they did

2652
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 1: this last season as crazy as they were trading away

2653
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:34,000
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, trading away Amari Cooper and stinking the joint

2654
02:06:34,080 --> 02:06:36,560
Speaker 1: up and their draft didn't make any sense. Last year.

2655
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 1: You trade Derek Carr, what are you trying to? Are

2656
02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: you trying to get better or not? You've already got

2657
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:42,520
Speaker 1: him signed, You've got him under the cap. He's all sat.

2658
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 1: Let's go. They traded Khalil Mack. Do they trade Derek

2659
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 1: Carr because they're the Raiders and they're idiots. How can

2660
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 1: John Gruden of all people not understand how hard it

2661
02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 1: is to find a quarterback as good as Derek Carr,

2662
02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:59,920
Speaker 1: that it's you can't do it. They don't fall off

2663
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 1: the tree. I agree they're part two. Kyler Murray Nick

2664
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 1: Bosa have equal odds to go first overall in the draft.

2665
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 1: New Jersey FanDuel Sports Book have Murray, Kyler Murray, and

2666
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 1: Bosa co favorites, both at plus one ten. Bosa was

2667
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 1: the favorite, but the early money came in on Kyler

2668
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 1: Murray and the line has shifted to make them co favorites.

2669
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:21,600
Speaker 1: Murray and Bosa co favorites to go first overall. You

2670
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 1: can go first. The true or false. I'll say false.

2671
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Nick Bosas is likely to go as

2672
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, and I don't think Nick Bosa is even

2673
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:37,040
Speaker 1: as likely to go as a guy like Quentin Quinnin Williams.

2674
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:40,040
Speaker 1: Bosa is good and he may go in the top

2675
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 1: the top bick, but I don't think he's any more

2676
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 1: likely than Kyler Murray or or as likely as those

2677
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 1: other two guys to go. I think it's false because

2678
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 1: I think it appears, based on the last week of reporting,

2679
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are sold on Kyler Murray and they

2680
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 1: would make him the first overall, which I don't know

2681
02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:58,080
Speaker 1: if that's a any move, but I think that's the

2682
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,440
Speaker 1: way it looks like it might go. And find NFL

2683
02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:03,160
Speaker 1: two or false. The Patriots should make a move for

2684
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 1: quarterback Josh Rosen back to the Cardinals we go. Josh

2685
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:10,040
Speaker 1: Rosen said to be getting ready to be traded away

2686
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 1: by the Arizona Cardinals. Maybe as the Cardinals gets set

2687
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:15,360
Speaker 1: to pick Josh Rosen, does he go to the New

2688
02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 1: England Patriots. Brady forty two years old when the season begins.

2689
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 1: Rosen six foot four inches tall, just like Brady, and

2690
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 1: Rosen is just twenty two years old, sit for a

2691
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 1: year or two behind Brady, and then maybe play for

2692
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. The Patriots should make a move

2693
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:33,880
Speaker 1: for Josh Rosen. True or false? You know what I'm

2694
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:36,280
Speaker 1: gonna say true. I think Rosen has something to offer

2695
02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:39,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots or Washington or the Giants or somebody else

2696
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 1: in this league. In a scenario where he could go

2697
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:43,760
Speaker 1: and sit behind a good player for a couple of years,

2698
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 1: learn how to play, develop, that'd be perfect for him.

2699
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 1: I'd say true. If I were the Patriots, I would

2700
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:50,800
Speaker 1: look at that. I gotta I gotta say true as well.

2701
02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't it's crazy to think you that he has

2702
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,320
Speaker 1: no shot in the NFL being a good quarterback. He

2703
02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 1: played on a bad team last year with a head

2704
02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: coach that they fired after one year he was It

2705
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:03,879
Speaker 1: was a mess out there. There's no way any quarterback

2706
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:06,280
Speaker 1: I can think of it could have been dropped in

2707
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 1: there for one year and been successful. Let alone or

2708
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:11,240
Speaker 1: young quarterback like Rosen, and the Patriots are in the

2709
02:09:11,320 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 1: perfect spot to pick up a guy with maybe an

2710
02:09:13,760 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 1: upside that they can check out for a year or

2711
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:19,960
Speaker 1: two without you know what, a third round pick. Yeah, absolutely,

2712
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:22,040
Speaker 1: I think that's I think I would do it too.

2713
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 1: I like the Bills guy, but I don't dislike Josh Rosen,

2714
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:27,680
Speaker 1: even after his rookie year. I think he's got something

2715
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 1: to offer a team and maybe a future to offer

2716
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 1: a team, a team like New England that's got to

2717
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:33,360
Speaker 1: start life. I think that's all up in the air

2718
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 1: for him. I don't think there's anybody's don't. I don't

2719
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:38,360
Speaker 1: know because all the people that were evaluating Josh Rosen

2720
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 1: are out of the building at Arizona. They don't know

2721
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,120
Speaker 1: how good or bad he was in practice or you know,

2722
02:09:42,440 --> 02:09:44,440
Speaker 1: they got a whole new staff out there. The GM

2723
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:47,960
Speaker 1: is there remains. Yeah, the one who hired the guy

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Speaker 1: he fired twelve months later. Yeah, eleven and eleven and

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Speaker 1: three quarter months after he hired the guy. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go. NFL True or False brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese.

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Speaker 1: Steve and I have back with more cheese in a moment,

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Well, what did we learn from today's show?

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Speaker 1: You asked. It's presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New

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Speaker 1: York's homes and businesses with the finest and security in

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Speaker 1: a home theater. He preferred Alarm at Home Theater Provider

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Speaker 1: or the Buffalo Bills. What do we learned? We learned

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Speaker 1: a lot from Kyle Williams, who just wrapped up his

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Speaker 1: first weekend of Bonifi TV work. Kyle did some on

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Speaker 1: field stuff for NFL Network, covering the defensive line drills

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Speaker 1: at the NFL Scounting Combine, and Steve asked Kyle about

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Speaker 1: his biggest impression from the scounting Combine last weekend. It's

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Speaker 1: such a production now. And what I mean by that is,

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Speaker 1: you know, when I went, a lot of the things

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Speaker 1: you did were behind closed doors and then just got

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Speaker 1: reported it and then everybody saw you run the forty

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Speaker 1: and that was kind of it. Right now you're getting

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Speaker 1: a live look at vertical jump, broad jump, forty yards dash,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're getting You're getting a live look at

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Speaker 1: all of these things, which is a really cool thing

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Speaker 1: that NFL has pulled the veil back on it and

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Speaker 1: really kind of invited everyone in, which has got to

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Speaker 1: be exciting for fans and people that are trying to

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Speaker 1: keep up with their team. Year round. I was a

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Speaker 1: part of that with the NFL Network. Did a good

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Speaker 1: job in his NFL Network duties. Also today, Jordan Phillips

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Speaker 1: joined us Bill's defensive tackle just signed a one year

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Speaker 1: contract extension with the Bills. One year is all. He

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Speaker 1: has a chance to replace Kyle Williams in the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: lineup on the defensive line. And we asked Jordan Phillips

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Speaker 1: for his outlook on the upcoming Bill season. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you look at last season, I don't really want

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Speaker 1: to dwell on it too much, but there was a

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Speaker 1: few games that we should have won though we lost,

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Speaker 1: and we could have finished the season at least nine

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Speaker 1: and seven. And if we just haven't didn't have a

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Speaker 1: couple of hiccups, you know, our season would be complete.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at those things, and we're a

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Speaker 1: young team, and the more mature we get, the more

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Speaker 1: leaders we have, those six and ten it is easily

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Speaker 1: going to turn into nine and seven and up from there.

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Speaker 1: So it's hard to say that we're not going to

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Speaker 1: go somewhere. I guess easily turn into nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips prediction. They could be nine and seven, but

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Speaker 1: it does it's not gonna be easy, right, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm as optimistic as the next guy, but easily nine

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Speaker 1: and seven. I just as soon as he said it,

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Speaker 1: I kind of you didn't notice you were looking at it.

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Speaker 1: It just kind of jumped in my seat. Don't say

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be easy to be nine and seven. It

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Speaker 1: won't be easy to get nine and seven. They need

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Speaker 1: to get to nine and seven, ten wins, maybe more,

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Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be easy. No. And like I

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Speaker 1: said earlier a moment ago, it's gonna be a bit

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Speaker 1: different team. It's gonna be a different team. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be some faces that we don't know yet contributing, hopefully contributing.

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Speaker 1: Like last year, at this time, we didn't know who

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Speaker 1: you know, Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds are going to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the mix. Didn't know didn't know

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Speaker 1: tarn Johnson, Levi Wallace, didn't know Robert Foster. We didn't

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Speaker 1: know these guys. And yet you know now it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like, yeah, we're happy we got him, but who

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Speaker 1: are these Who's this crew gonna be coming in from

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Speaker 1: this draft? That's why it's such a fun time. It

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Speaker 1: is fun. Hey, we did our Twitter poll today. Steve

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Speaker 1: didn't like the poll. I think it was okay on

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Speaker 1: the Twitter Okay, I said. On the Twitter poll today,

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Speaker 1: we asked what can the Bills do to help Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen the most? Not the only thing they need to do,

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Speaker 1: they need to do a lot. What will help Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen the most this offseason? Seventy percent say rebuild that

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Speaker 1: offensive line, get it agree, Twenty five percent say acquire

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Speaker 1: some wide receivers. Need to do that. Three percent say

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Speaker 1: add tight ends. They only have one on the roster

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Speaker 1: right now, two percent of something else in mind. Good

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll. I don't care what anybody says. Good Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: And another one coming up tomorrow. Tomorrow we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the disaster that one writer thinks will be the offseason,

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Speaker 1: especially free agency. Next week. Mike Tanier says it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a disaster. Okay, we'll talk to him about

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow. Yeah. Our production assistants George Blast, Jeff Colton

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Speaker 1: and Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, j j Urito, Kevin Kargis,

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Speaker 1: James Robiler, Producer Jay Harris, Steve and I back for

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Speaker 1: more tomorrow, twelve noon to three pm. One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio