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Speaker 2: This is the question, okay that some people just tend
Speaker 2: to ask. It's the who is this year's blankety blank?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: It's like, who is this year's IOWA the team that
Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere to go undefeated? Who is this
Speaker 2: year's LSU to have firepower out of nowhere? Who is
Speaker 2: this year's Kenny Pickett Kenneth Pickett and or Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: tie Let's define what we believe that to mean? Okay,
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty two looking at quarterbacks who have been
Speaker 2: around but have been sort of a late bloomer to
Speaker 2: be Heisman adjacent or ensconced for that Heisman ensconced quarterback caliber.
Speaker 2: Can I give you some names please? I'd love to
Speaker 2: just like, just quarterbacks who are bathing in that jacuzzi
Speaker 2: of mediocrity, who are ready to make that leap. Okay,
Speaker 2: here we go. We got bo Nix at Oregon Fresh start.
Speaker 2: Whatever we've got Max Johnson Texas A and M fresh Start.
Speaker 2: Whatever you got Will Levis who popped last year? Who
Speaker 2: Nate Tye on the show this week mentioned I can't.
Speaker 3: Tell you how many messages I got about the Nate
Speaker 3: Tice conversation with a specific regard to Will Levis.
Speaker 1: Sure continue.
Speaker 2: I have Adrian Martinez at Kansas State who has a
Speaker 2: stellar running back next to him to take away some
Speaker 2: of that attention. Maybe that helped you have Similarly, Casey
Speaker 2: Thompson at at Nebraska who's been around but hasn't popped
Speaker 2: as a top flight showed certain flashes last year, was
Speaker 2: Xavier worthy and you're one of the sark offense at Texas.
Speaker 2: So maybe another guy fresh Start about Jordan Travis Florida State,
Speaker 2: somebody who dual threadability And we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: Florida State in a little while as well on an
Speaker 2: upcoming show. Let me let me see where else I
Speaker 2: can go with this.
Speaker 1: M no pro pro probe?
Speaker 3: What about Keen Slovice, Dan Keaton Slovas at pitt What
Speaker 3: about Keaton Slovas.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a JT.
Speaker 3: Daniels at West Virginia who just committed JT. Daniels is
Speaker 3: going to be throwing nothing but three yard hitch routes
Speaker 3: all right now, Yeah, all year. His average depth of
Speaker 3: target's going to be like four and a half. Now,
Speaker 3: I I'm very interested.
Speaker 1: In Keten Slovas.
Speaker 3: I'm interested in that situation for a number of reasons.
Speaker 3: I guess there is a bit of overlap between can
Speaker 3: you pick it at Pitt and now Keaton slova is
Speaker 3: transferring to Pitt. But I love the fact that he's
Speaker 3: got a game breaking wide out in Jordan Addison. I
Speaker 3: understand the offense a little bit different now Mark Whipple
Speaker 3: goes to Nebraska, So you know to what extent that's
Speaker 3: going to factor in remains to be seen. But I
Speaker 3: think Peten Slovas is a really interesting bounce back candidate,
Speaker 3: if only because he burst onto the scene in a
Speaker 3: big way when he became the starting quarterback at USC
Speaker 3: last year was nicked up and there was the whole
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart thing, the whole coaching changed thing. It didn't
Speaker 3: quite work out. I think this could be a fresh
Speaker 3: start for him in a place that has at least
Speaker 3: had some recent success at the quarterback position. So I'm
Speaker 3: he's a name that I'm interested in. I'm interested less
Speaker 3: so in Casey Thompson, though that is a situation I'm
Speaker 3: going to follow because it's hard for me to gauge.
Speaker 3: Casey Thompson coming to Texas to begin with was kind
Speaker 3: of a story, right he was. He was a guy
Speaker 3: that a lot of folks were really excited about, and
Speaker 3: it worked out in spots. It obviously wasn't consistent the
Speaker 3: whole way throughout. Otherwise he still would have had a
Speaker 3: firm grasp on that starting quarterback spot. So what Scott
Speaker 3: Frost can do with him at Nebraska, if he can
Speaker 3: give that offense something of a lift, definitely a better
Speaker 3: passer than what Nebraska has had recently. I'm interested in
Speaker 3: Casey Thompson. What can he do? And if only because
Speaker 3: Nate Tice brought up Will Levis. Now, I guess I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to be in on Will Levis. He's a guy,
Speaker 3: Nate's a guy who knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 3: I'm just an idiot with a microphone. So Will Levis,
Speaker 3: we'll see.
Speaker 1: I am open to.
Speaker 3: Being convinced on that front, but it will be hard
Speaker 3: for me to forget some of Will Levis's early work
Speaker 3: at Penn State. All Right, I've got some other names
Speaker 3: who are sort of off of the Heisman adjacent or
Speaker 3: ensconsing radar, but have shown enough promise that have either
Speaker 3: bathed in the jacuzzi of mediocrity or have bathed in the.
Speaker 1: Jacuzzie of pretty good. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Brendan Armstrong been around, been shown improvement, right, probably needs
Speaker 2: to cut down on the picks to to really have
Speaker 2: that chance to vault. I mean, same goes for Will Levis. Obviously,
Speaker 2: dtr Ty been around. Okay, right, what about and this
Speaker 2: is more this is directly in line with the Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow part of this. Whoever wins that job at LSU.
Speaker 2: Both those guys have hung around, not in a starting
Speaker 2: role for Miles Brennan, but Jayden Daniels has shown that
Speaker 2: promise and will be surrounded by talent presumably, But it's
Speaker 2: year one. I don't know if Mike Denbrock is the
Speaker 2: most explosive offensive mine to to sort of vault one
Speaker 2: of those guys up. But there's actually there's a lot
Speaker 2: of example. Like Devin Leary. I wouldn't say he's.
Speaker 3: Devin Leary had a pretty good year last year. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: but he's definitely pretty good already. Oh yeah, definitely, but
Speaker 3: he is.
Speaker 2: He It would it would be a vault to get
Speaker 2: to the Heisman, Jacuzzi, Would it not?
Speaker 1: For sure? For sure?
Speaker 2: I'm the the player that I'm looking for. It is
Speaker 2: somebody who does not qualify as this, but somebody who
Speaker 2: is to me too far beneath the radar in talking
Speaker 2: about this conversation about these quarterbacks, and that's kJ Jefferson.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: The chips are to the center of the table for me.
Speaker 2: With kJ Jefferson physically the dual threat, the arm, you know,
Speaker 2: no more Trailon Burks. But you know, the transfer situation
Speaker 2: is very good for Arkansas. The coordinator is there for
Speaker 2: an explosive offense. It's I think the line should be
Speaker 2: good once again. So that's the guy to me who
Speaker 2: will vault himself into household status because of the stage
Speaker 2: on which he plays. To me, my best bet for
Speaker 2: that is kJ Jefferson.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, Keaton Slovis, I sort of evaluate in
Speaker 3: an entirely different vein than kJ Jefferson. I think I
Speaker 3: saw the riding on the wall for sure with kJ
Speaker 3: Jefferson last year and especially in that bowl game. I
Speaker 3: know so many people who weren't familiar with kJ Jefferson
Speaker 3: saw him in the bowl game, and just the skill
Speaker 3: set that he has able to take over a game
Speaker 3: is something that is really special in college football, sure,
Speaker 3: and I'm excited to see more of him this coming season.
Speaker 3: For sure, Arkansas is definitely in a good place. Sam
Speaker 3: Pittman's done an awesome job with that program, and to
Speaker 3: be frank, the athletics program at Arkansas as a whole
Speaker 3: isn't a really good place between the basketball and football
Speaker 3: program and other sports. So it's a great time to
Speaker 3: be a Hog right now. And I think we'll see
Speaker 3: much more of what kJ has this coming season.
Speaker 2: Can I give you I'm gonna give you the deepest
Speaker 2: of sleepers for an answer for this, because Kenny Pickett
Speaker 2: was pretty deep as a sleeper to get into that
Speaker 2: Heisman and now he's, you know, in the conversation for
Speaker 2: the first quarterback taken in the NFL draft because of
Speaker 2: what I believe to be a good amount of natural talent,
Speaker 2: what I believe to be a good offensive line in
Speaker 2: front of him, and much in the way that you know,
Speaker 2: Joe Brady opened things up or helped to open things
Speaker 2: up for LSU with a new coordinator. My deep sleeper
Speaker 2: answer for this is grammertz mm because Bobby Ingram comes
Speaker 2: in because he has a good running back next him
Speaker 2: who should provide for play action opportunities. Now, I don't
Speaker 2: think they have Winter Wonders at receiver. I don't think
Speaker 2: they have those guys that scare deep safeties.
Speaker 1: That to me is the issue.
Speaker 2: But in terms of a guy who's like going from
Speaker 2: ten touchdowns and eleven picks to eighteen and three with
Speaker 2: a really solid offseason, and he's healthy, and I have
Speaker 2: to squint. I have to squint, and I have to
Speaker 2: put on some pretty strong lenses. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to select somebody deep in the cavern
Speaker 2: of mediocrity, that's my pick.
Speaker 3: Such odd construction.
Speaker 1: I love it, Thank you, I thank you. I really
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you know we commit. Okay, are you
Speaker 2: ready for the next quest?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Please? Thank you very much. By the way, to uh,
Speaker 1: I want to get this right. It was Gordon.
Speaker 2: You don't hear from a lot of Gordons anymore, and
Speaker 2: so I'm glad we could we could get that on
Speaker 2: that same vein Finalytics picks for long heisman, and this
Speaker 2: person has suggested Jermaine Burton Alabama transfer from Georgia at
Speaker 2: thirty thousand plus thirty thousand.
Speaker 3: Three hundred to one hundred to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good path on the fly. Yeah, I'm used to it.
Speaker 3: That's a problem. Yeah, so you know this is my thing.
Speaker 3: I hate the heisman, but I love long shot heisman picks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's value, there's.
Speaker 3: Value, and the problem is that you're never really going
Speaker 3: to cash in that value. It's just interesting to look
Speaker 3: at who feels like they are too low in any
Speaker 3: given moment to that point. As I went through, as
Speaker 3: I looked at some of these names. kJ Jefferson's pretty low. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's a name that I think is interesting. Jackson Smith
Speaker 3: and Jigba is pretty low at eighty to one. We
Speaker 3: had a recent wide receiver Heisman winner and DeVante Smith.
Speaker 3: I think I think the guy for me is probably
Speaker 3: JSN at eighty to one. I like that one a lot,
Speaker 3: at least on the list here that I am looking at.
Speaker 3: He is equal to kJ Jefferson, who is also eighty
Speaker 3: to one. He is equal to Jordan at well no
Speaker 3: excuse me, Jordan Addison is one hundred to one. HM.
Speaker 3: If perhaps Keaton Slovis pops off the way I expect,
Speaker 3: the way I hope, he could be an interesting name
Speaker 3: to keep tabs on. Traveon Henderson at sixty to one
Speaker 3: is not bad, depending on how Ryan Dade chooses to
Speaker 3: use him, given the other artillery he's got in that offense.
Speaker 3: Sean Clifford at sixty to one is not a good pick.
Speaker 1: Do not pick him, don't. Don't waste our time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't go there. Those are some names that
Speaker 3: jump out. Quinn Ewers at forty to one is.
Speaker 1: Kind of a joke. We haven't seen anything from quinn
Speaker 1: Ewers yet.
Speaker 2: But that's I mean, look, if he pops, who do
Speaker 2: they have early on? They have Alabama early?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Don't just don't don't do that, Okay, don't. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's bad value. I don't think that's bad value.
Speaker 2: If he is the general rational quarterback that he has
Speaker 2: been labeled to be, that's not terrible value. Another one
Speaker 2: that's not as close of offense I'm gonna get. I
Speaker 2: have a couple, but continue another one.
Speaker 3: If my deep sleeper here would be Will Shipley, Will
Speaker 3: Shipley at Clemson is one hundred and seventy to one.
Speaker 3: This is per the Action Network. I don't know how
Speaker 3: up to date this is, but yeah, I'm looking at
Speaker 3: a different one. But my hunch is that it hasn't
Speaker 3: changed all that much. It's still probably really low for
Speaker 3: Will Shipley. But you know, it was hurt last year,
Speaker 3: but I think established himself as sort of a jack
Speaker 3: of all trade, someone who could go into that offense
Speaker 3: and really really makes them. Hey, if DJ you or
Speaker 3: my boy kde club Nick can get their act together
Speaker 3: at quarterback, provided that the coaching situation doesn't fully implode.
Speaker 3: Now that it's a bunch of new names, Clemson clearly
Speaker 3: is talent.
Speaker 1: It's an acc schedule.
Speaker 3: Will Shipley is going to be, I think, kind of
Speaker 3: the go to playmaker on that offense. He's an interesting
Speaker 3: name for me at once seventy to one. Okay, Jamiir
Speaker 3: Gibbs at Alabama, I think Heisman voters will not be
Speaker 3: thrilled even if Bryce Young shows himself to be even
Speaker 3: better than he was last year, much in the way
Speaker 3: that Lamar Jackson had a better follow up year than
Speaker 3: he did his Heisman year. In a lot of cases,
Speaker 3: especially statistically, he was a better quarterback, He was more developed,
Speaker 3: he was better at reading defenses. He was just clearly
Speaker 3: better and didn't win it the following year. Jamiir Gibbs
Speaker 3: is going to be a big beneficiary of defensive coordinators.
Speaker 3: King in on Bryce Young the passing him and Jermaine
Speaker 3: Burton is a decent answer as well.
Speaker 1: Who could be the.
Speaker 2: Number one guy for Alabama out wide? Jamiir Gibbs was
Speaker 2: crazy impressive for a nothing offense. What is he going
Speaker 2: to do behind Obama offensive line? What is he going
Speaker 2: to do split out wide? What is he going to
Speaker 2: look like when used creatively? When Heisman voters do not
Speaker 2: love a back to back winner. I think that's interesting.
Speaker 2: And currently his odds are at ten thousand, so it's,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, whatever it is, or it opened at that
Speaker 2: and it you know, depending on where you're looking. But
Speaker 2: there's value, whether it's one hundred to one or forty
Speaker 2: to one, whatever decent value there outside of like, that's
Speaker 2: that's the deep one, right, that's you're you're looking pretty
Speaker 2: deep into the uh, the annals. You know, Malie Hunningham,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to see a step forward. I mentioned
Speaker 2: Brendan Armstrong on that that conversation in terms of guys
Speaker 2: making leaps vaults. But man, he put up some huge
Speaker 2: games and I don't believe Brendan Armstrong will necessarily win.
Speaker 2: But we could have another year, didn't did we not?
Speaker 2: In like mid November say to ourselves, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's still kind of wide open, and Bryce Young kind
Speaker 2: of won it by default because he just it's true.
Speaker 2: It is strong like it could be another year where
Speaker 2: they don't want to give it to Bryce Young, like
Speaker 2: I again, Will Shipley's not a bad bet when you
Speaker 2: look at some of the odds here, Jackson Dart at
Speaker 2: what is that fifty to one? Yeah, something like that
Speaker 2: five thousand or five to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me throw.
Speaker 3: Out two other names. Yeah, Henon Hooker at sixty to
Speaker 3: one on the on the sheet that I've got here,
Speaker 3: this looks like it was updated in January, So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's probably moved down, maybe not that much. But Hendon
Speaker 3: Hooker's not a bad pick. Sixty to one. He's gonna
Speaker 3: throw it a ton. He had a good year last year.
Speaker 3: He's another guy could be interesting. The problem with the
Speaker 3: Heisman is your team has.
Speaker 1: To be really good.
Speaker 3: In order to really have a shot. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: don't know where you know, hopefully Tennessee takes a step forward.
Speaker 1: But we'll see the other name here.
Speaker 3: I noticed that you haven't mentioned Will Anderson.
Speaker 2: Dan, that's true. That's a it's a name worth discussing.
Speaker 3: I was hoping you could do the Will Anderson voice. Well,
Speaker 3: thank you, the exasperated national mediaker.
Speaker 2: He's Willers.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, no problem. He's at thirty to one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've got forty on mine. But yeah, still pretty good
Speaker 3: odds for a defensive player.
Speaker 1: Ye'll be that high up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody else who I mean, every single offensive line
Speaker 2: and offensive game plan will be keyed on him, and
Speaker 2: so it's hard to quantify times run away from or
Speaker 2: double teams that open things up for teammates. It's hard
Speaker 2: to do that in the way that Jordan Davis was
Speaker 2: one of the most dominant players last year in college football.
Speaker 2: But like, how do you quantify those types of numbers? No,
Speaker 2: Will Anderson's interesting, but it would take a complete absence
Speaker 2: of offensive firepower in the sports individual firepower be a
Speaker 2: running back, receiver, or quarterback for him to really really
Speaker 2: get there. Though, Will Anderson has the advantage that not
Speaker 2: a lot of players do of being clearly Heisman caliber
Speaker 2: as a defensive player and being back for the following season.
Speaker 2: So the name recognition happens to be excellent for Will Anderson.
Speaker 3: My actual bet. Yeah, and this is not based on odds,
Speaker 3: by the way. I love Jackson Smith and Jigba at
Speaker 3: those odds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, those are incredible odds.
Speaker 3: So that would probably be if I put money down.
Speaker 3: That's why I put money down on the guy who
Speaker 3: I think is going to win.
Speaker 1: It will be CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud. It's tough to repeat if you'rre Bryce's young, really
Speaker 3: tough to repeat as a Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 2: The good news if you like Jackson Smith and Jigba
Speaker 2: is he has already put up cartoonish number in big games.
Speaker 1: Saw. I think it was.
Speaker 2: Nebraska, he put up two three hundred yards. Obviously the
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. He just went wild. And he can be
Speaker 2: forgiven for having a four catch sixty three yard game
Speaker 2: because it's position dependent, right, he could be double teamed.
Speaker 1: He could just c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud miss something open or whatever, whereas CJ. Stroud if
Speaker 2: he just has a clunker of a game to open
Speaker 2: the season against Notre Dame or Michigan State or something
Speaker 2: like that, but otherwise has a great year that'll be
Speaker 2: used against him in a way that a low statistical
Speaker 2: game won't be used against Jackson Smith and JIGBA. So
Speaker 2: if JSN is fully unguardable and is putting up cartoonish
Speaker 2: numbers knowing that he's the number one option against and
Speaker 2: what they have Notre Dame, I think the schedule is
Speaker 2: really good for just like the stage that he will
Speaker 2: be playing in big games sprinkled throughout.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Pick from you, all right, It's not a deep sleeper,
Speaker 2: but I like the pick. Next next topic, Dan Michael,
Speaker 2: How screwed is Georgia Tech for the foreseeable future?
Speaker 1: Pretty screw Pretty screwed?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty pretty screwed. I think we're in agreement
Speaker 3: on that front. You just talked about Jamior Gibbs, who
Speaker 3: left the program.
Speaker 1: YEP.
Speaker 3: Problem with Georgia Tech is that it's not first off,
Speaker 3: the talent situation. Installing a new system in the wake
Speaker 3: of that triple option.
Speaker 1: That's all news.
Speaker 3: Paul Johnson's system. We're years into the I know we're
Speaker 3: years into it, but I still feel like we never.
Speaker 1: Got over that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The problem that I have is the schedule. It's still brutal, right,
Speaker 3: it's still brutal, and so there's just not a whole
Speaker 3: lot of wiggle room. If for Georgia Tech, if you're
Speaker 3: looking to take this thing next level and you've got
Speaker 3: just killers in your schedule, you know, there's just no
Speaker 3: net It makes it so much harder.
Speaker 2: I agree, is Tennessee dot dot dot back Nett wants
Speaker 2: to know? Yeah, okay, so defined back. So it's basically
Speaker 2: clearly competing for the SEC East, which is where they
Speaker 2: were when they were there. If they're back, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Back is relative, right, back in terms of
Speaker 2: Texas may not necessarily be back.
Speaker 1: Excuse me for other teams, but Tennessee for what the
Speaker 1: last five.
Speaker 3: Years to some extent, mm hmm. Maybe it's harsh to
Speaker 3: say they've been a punchline, but a lot's gone wrong there. Yep,
Speaker 3: a lot's gone wrong there, especially with the way that
Speaker 3: Jeremy Pruett left. The program just hasn't been in a
Speaker 3: good spot. And then the end of the previous this
Speaker 3: regime wasn't in a good spot either. So I feel
Speaker 3: like in a very short period of time, Josh Hipel's
Speaker 3: gotten them to a level of respectability that if you're
Speaker 3: a Vols fan, you got to be pretty pumped about
Speaker 3: the fact that they've got Hendon Hooker coming back, the
Speaker 3: fact that recruiting I think has been pretty strong. There's
Speaker 3: a lot to like there, and at least directionally, it
Speaker 3: feels like they are headed towards back. Whatever that may
Speaker 3: mean for you. It seems as if they are in
Speaker 3: the car, they've got the breeze and the hair, and
Speaker 3: they are going towards that destination. So even if they're
Speaker 3: not there, they're getting there. I feel pretty confident in
Speaker 3: saying that it seems like they're in a good spot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the good news for Tennessee is the turnover at george
Speaker 3: Now obviously Georgia is stacked, the turnover at Florida quarterback coach,
Speaker 3: everything is significant. South Carolina is frisky but has a
Speaker 3: ways to go. Kentucky is a good team, but one
Speaker 3: that's limited in terms of I mean, they have a
Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator this year, limited in terms of of
Speaker 3: you know, how many games they you know, they're not
Speaker 3: a ten to eleven annual win programs, but we're talking
Speaker 3: about the Will Levis led excuse me, Yeah, Kentucky Lotcats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no more Liam Cohen, no more Wandale Robinson. But
Speaker 2: they've recruited really well. I think they just fielded a
Speaker 2: top fifteen class Kentucky did. Things are great in Lexington,
Speaker 2: so the SEC East is tricky. The problem with Tennessee
Speaker 2: to me is they're not back until they're much deeper
Speaker 2: on defense. The pass rush was okay, they got beat
Speaker 2: deep too much and there was just there's too many
Speaker 2: questions on defense. I think they're going to continue to
Speaker 2: get better. They were decent, I believe, decent against the run,
Speaker 2: but too many big passes allowed last year. So when
Speaker 2: they are balancing how explosive that offense can be with
Speaker 2: how limiting in terms of explosive if that that defense
Speaker 2: gets to and I think a lot of that is
Speaker 2: pass rush and havoc. The defense, especially the line, just
Speaker 2: wasn't getting home enough to make me feel like they're
Speaker 2: on the this fall verge.
Speaker 3: We say this, Why don't we say this? Why don't
Speaker 3: we agree that we're on the highway. We're in the
Speaker 3: Tennessee car. We see a road sign that says, what
Speaker 3: fifty five miles to back.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're like, I can hold I can hold my
Speaker 2: bladder that long exactly. Yeah, I can do forty minutes
Speaker 2: whatever it takes to a wide open road.
Speaker 1: Fifty five miles. I think that's about the right number.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, fair enough, you can hold out.
Speaker 1: You're not You're not.
Speaker 2: It's not indistinguishably far. It's horizon ish, that's correct. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I you know what I think Tennessee is. I don't
Speaker 2: think Tennessee is ready to win in a number of ways,
Speaker 2: but I think Tennessee is good enough to beat beatable teams,
Speaker 2: be it because of injury or internal drama or you know,
Speaker 2: a screwy turnover in a big game, like Tennessee is
Speaker 2: good enough to pick up a win that falls off
Speaker 2: the truck right That's where they are right now, which
Speaker 2: is a great place to be and growing. A lot
Speaker 2: of programs should take that spot.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Wow, there are NC DOUBLEA ramifications also on said highway
Speaker 2: freeway that are TBD, and so that might throw a
Speaker 2: bit of a winning wrench into things, or losing wrench,
Speaker 2: as it were, into things. We'll see, but that is
Speaker 2: a part of the concoction, the volunteer concoction here barring
Speaker 2: a spike strip, yes, set down by the authorities. I
Speaker 2: think we're about fifty five miles from back.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next question.
Speaker 2: I think with what Tennessee can currently control. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: in the direction. Okay, Matt says Notre Dame plus ten
Speaker 2: and a half versus Ohio State, do.
Speaker 1: We hammer.
Speaker 3: Wow plus ten and a half?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: First off, I don't is that a real line. I
Speaker 3: don't know if that's a real line.
Speaker 1: But it feels about right to me.
Speaker 3: Okay, I would No, I wouldn't take that. I would
Speaker 3: not take those points. There's just too much of an
Speaker 3: unknown going into that game. I think that Notre Dame
Speaker 3: be amped up, but the quarterback situation is still a
Speaker 3: bit up.
Speaker 1: In the air.
Speaker 3: I expect it'll be Tyler Buckner, but there's probably something
Speaker 3: of an open competition the spring later this fall between
Speaker 3: him and Drew Pine, So there's uncertainty on that front.
Speaker 3: There is turnover elsewhere on this Notre Dame squad.
Speaker 1: So you know what it's like in year one.
Speaker 3: First, like, let's say, real regular season game under Marcus Freeman,
Speaker 3: Tommy Reese unfettered. There's just too many unknowns and we
Speaker 3: know a lot about Ohio State already. We just talked
Speaker 3: about c. J. Stroud and JSN and Traveon Henderson. That
Speaker 3: three heads you'll have in your head as a degenerate,
Speaker 3: of which that's the tribe you belong to. There is
Speaker 3: a number like if you said it at plus nineteen
Speaker 3: and a half, you're like.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 3: I am worried that that game gets out of hand
Speaker 3: because I feel like on paper, Ohio State is going
Speaker 3: to be the monster. Better. That doesn't mean it won't
Speaker 3: be close. It's week one, and weird things happen in
Speaker 3: week one, But I just have far more questions about
Speaker 3: Notre Dame that I do Ohio State. If you gave
Speaker 3: me fourteen and a half, I maybe consider that, but
Speaker 3: that to me feels like a stay away game. I
Speaker 3: would stay well away from that game. I do think
Speaker 3: that there will be a lot of steam on Notre
Speaker 3: Dame as the game gets closer, because they're first off,
Speaker 3: a team that people love to bet for or against,
Speaker 3: and especially in a case like Week one against Ohio State,
Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman's first game. This weird set of events that
Speaker 3: we had last year with Brian Kelly leaving actually turned
Speaker 3: a lot of people into Notre Dame fans, and there
Speaker 3: will be call me crazy, I think there will be
Speaker 3: a percentage of the population out there that wants to
Speaker 3: root for them, especially against another hated team Micha Ohio State.
Speaker 2: I don't know where you're getting your data points. I
Speaker 2: don't think that's true.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: I think people will want to root for Notre Dame
Speaker 3: in that game, and I think that line will come down.
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame hatred perhaps has softened a bit,
Speaker 2: but I think the feelings that people have about Notre
Speaker 2: Dame are larger than any one coach.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Okay, you will have
Speaker 3: You will have Michigan people who want to root for
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, want to bet for Notre Dame because they're
Speaker 3: playing Ohio State. You have other people in the Big Ten.
Speaker 3: I will want Ohio State to lose that game.
Speaker 2: They you have, you have the un You have the
Speaker 2: known of Ohio State's offense, which I think is going
Speaker 2: to continue to approve, especially new offensive line coach.
Speaker 1: But the known of we know what these receivers are,
Speaker 1: we know who CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud is whatever, and obviously you know what Ryan Day
Speaker 2: does as an architect of that offense now brand new
Speaker 2: Ohio State defense. There's an unknown and a very interesting
Speaker 2: way for the Buckeyes that Notre Dame has to contend with,
Speaker 2: as is the unknown of everything about what Notre Dame
Speaker 2: looks like moving forward, even with you know, the return
Speaker 2: of the both coordinators. We don't know what Marcus Freeman's
Speaker 2: long term vision is for this offen or quarterback, and
Speaker 2: you know what the defense is going to look like
Speaker 2: now that he's fully in charge. Jim Knowles against a
Speaker 2: first time, full time starting quarterback for Notre Dame, so
Speaker 2: blitz a lot, Daddy, send them, man, it could be
Speaker 2: very very my prediction and somebody in the discord, yeah,
Speaker 2: can jot this down and if you've got enough patience
Speaker 2: to actually see this one through to September, my prediction
Speaker 2: is that in the morning of the few hours before kickoff,
Speaker 2: that that line moves in favor Notre Dame. Right, I
Speaker 2: think there will be late stem on Notre Dame. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine, call me crazy, No, I think it's an
Speaker 2: interesting I won't be betting Notre Dame, but I think
Speaker 2: people will next question, I love this question, and we're
Speaker 2: actually going to get into the art of the question. Okay,
Speaker 2: but bah bah bah. Disregarding all things related to football,
Speaker 2: Sam wants to know which former college football greats life
Speaker 2: would you most want to have? Okay, so the current
Speaker 2: post football so they can't be a current NFL star
Speaker 2: like you can't select I want to be Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 2: who's unquestionably a college football grade and all time college
Speaker 2: football grade. Sure which college football greats current life is
Speaker 2: the most desirable for you to your your soul, to
Speaker 2: escape your body and and land in this person in
Speaker 2: their in their brain.
Speaker 3: Well, like, okay, what constitutes a great because the first
Speaker 3: thing that comes to mind is the guys who have
Speaker 3: played college football who have been very, very good at
Speaker 3: their position. Yeah, I've definitely had an NFL future and
Speaker 3: then decided I'm gonna play baseball.
Speaker 1: So you're answering, Jeff Samarja, is that what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm not answering Jeff Samarsha. But Jeff Samarja made one.
Speaker 3: Hundred and twenty two million dollars playing baseball. He was
Speaker 3: an average pitcher and he was not a bad avenue
Speaker 3: to go. If that's okay the framework for this question,
Speaker 3: Jeff Samarja is not a college football great. You can
Speaker 3: tell the story of mid two thousands college football without
Speaker 3: leaning heavily on Jeff Samarsha, Brady Quinn, Quinn, No, so
Speaker 3: who is who is the person that, like from across
Speaker 3: the country you mentioned their name.
Speaker 1: And they say, oh, yeah, man, he was something else.
Speaker 2: Jeff Samarja is not that, Brady Quinn's not that, but
Speaker 2: like Matt Lionard is.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Bush has brought Reggie Busch. Go ahead, who
Speaker 3: are your answers?
Speaker 1: I'm curious.
Speaker 2: Number One Desmond Howard, unquestionably iconic college football player, lives
Speaker 2: in Miami, works the hardest for four months a year.
Speaker 2: Is not physically unwell to me. I know, he came
Speaker 2: on the show and he talks about how he bikes
Speaker 2: and he does all these workouts or whatever, and he's
Speaker 2: beloved still beloved of course by Michigan fans and alumni,
Speaker 2: and I don't know. He seems like a happy dude
Speaker 2: who has it together. I think that's a decent answer.
Speaker 2: Do you know what Jerry Rice is up to now?
Speaker 2: All time unquestioned college football I'm not talking about forty
Speaker 2: nine ers.
Speaker 3: He's not doing He's not doing those men's vitality commercials
Speaker 3: with Frank Thomas. Is he might be Okay, what's wrong
Speaker 3: with that? I'm Jude's out not a sponsor. I guess
Speaker 3: could be go ahead, kichinue.
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice, his kid just transferred from Colorado to USC
Speaker 2: so he gets to be a proud college football dad.
Speaker 2: I believe he lives in California, has made a very
Speaker 2: handsome living. The last in public story that I read
Speaker 2: about Jerry Rice is he just has a great time
Speaker 2: crashing weddings in northern California. He is super recognizable, gets
Speaker 2: onto the dance floor, and everybody loves to have a
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice surprise. Counterpoint.
Speaker 3: Counterpoint, Yeah, Yeah, he played for Mississippi Valley State. Yeah,
Speaker 3: is that a big enough school to qualify him as
Speaker 3: a college football grade. He was clearly great in college,
Speaker 3: but well it was more of an NFL great than
Speaker 3: he was a college grade.
Speaker 2: I went on ESPN's one hundred and fifty Greatest College
Speaker 2: Football Players Ever. There was Jerry Rice like number, you know,
Speaker 2: thirty four.
Speaker 1: So we'll take that.
Speaker 2: We'll accept that he had set a number of records.
Speaker 2: He was unguardable. He just happened to play at a
Speaker 2: smaller level. But he is considered to be a college
Speaker 2: football grade. I think did he win the Walter Payton Award,
Speaker 2: the you know, the the equivalent like the FCS Heisman.
Speaker 1: Probably probably, you can look it up.
Speaker 3: As as I'm discussed, there is there is one easy
Speaker 3: answer here that I'm curious to see.
Speaker 1: A few through the Okay, I have my number three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck.
Speaker 2: Oh, Andrew Luck retired, made a ton of money, is
Speaker 2: a new dad, loves reading, loves traveling, and once again
Speaker 2: retired early with a ton of money, and no longer
Speaker 2: plays football, and just seems like a bright dude who
Speaker 2: has his life together. Has a Stanford education, which certainly
Speaker 2: is something of value. Man, I don't know. I look
Speaker 2: at his life as being roughly, I think he's a
Speaker 2: little bit younger than we are. I mean a lot
Speaker 2: younger than you. But I don't think in terms of
Speaker 2: living a college football great life. Who also appears on
Speaker 2: that list?
Speaker 1: I think I think that's my answer.
Speaker 3: It's a good answer. How's the answer not Peyton Manning.
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning's a great answer. He's an all time college
Speaker 2: football great played in at least one Citrus Bowl, if
Speaker 2: I correctly what the old Steve Spury, you can't.
Speaker 3: I'm not crazy about the neck pain, but right, you know,
Speaker 3: we're talking about removing all things football from this equation
Speaker 3: and so we can kind of lump that together with it.
Speaker 3: But Peyton Manning is sort of like a budding media star.
Speaker 3: He's funny, he's funny. He's definitely going to have limitless
Speaker 3: opportunities to grow his footprint as it relates to all
Speaker 3: things media and just be out there and you know,
Speaker 3: pretty much have his pickets away when there comes to
Speaker 3: anything in the entertainment or media world.
Speaker 2: The only my primary concern with some of these guys
Speaker 2: and looking at their life now, is how's Peyton Manning's
Speaker 2: neck doing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: That's the concern to me. That they's end of his career.
Speaker 2: That's related to football, no I know, but that's also
Speaker 2: related to his life. Like there are guys there, there
Speaker 2: are former players where like the game has clearly taken
Speaker 2: its toll on them physically, where I just I hope
Speaker 2: that they can heal from but it does not look
Speaker 2: like a pleasant experience. That's the worry for me. But
Speaker 2: it seems like he's doing all right.
Speaker 3: But the question was outside of football, removing all things football. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and neck is because of football. So in this parallel universe,
Speaker 3: Peyton Manning's got our good strong neck. He's my answer what.
Speaker 2: College football storyline Taylor wants to know outside of the playoff?
Speaker 2: Are you sick of hearing about?
Speaker 3: Do you have an answer for this sort of Yeah,
Speaker 3: my answer isn't really an answer. It's complicated. It's sort
Speaker 3: of a punt. But if I'm being honest, the answer
Speaker 3: for me is Dabo Sweeney. Now, OK, he's not really
Speaker 3: a storyline firebrand, but yes, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It has been a journey.
Speaker 3: For us as college football fans, as Dabo has walked
Speaker 3: this long path of being an opinion haver m eighty
Speaker 3: percent of the time, he pretty much sucks at it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's hard to listen to him unless you're a
Speaker 3: full throated Clemson blo, just a full throated Dabbo apologist. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Clemson's been a juggernaut for the better part of the
Speaker 3: last decade. I don't want to hear it about these
Speaker 3: ways that college football and the rules and the transfer
Speaker 3: port and all these things are making it harder for
Speaker 3: him as a coach.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 3: They've been pretty good at it in the old world,
Speaker 3: in the way the system's been And I didn't hear
Speaker 3: him barking then, so that to me rings pretty hollow. Okay,
Speaker 3: then twenty percent of the time, frankly, like his most
Speaker 3: recent comments, I don't know if you saw those about
Speaker 3: college football may need a full on blow up. I
Speaker 3: just got a nuke it because of the way things
Speaker 3: have gone. It's gotten a little bit out of control.
Speaker 3: Priorities are messed up. Twenty percent of the time, I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: In defense of Dabosweeney, he's asked these questions. This is
Speaker 2: not him calling for a press conference to say I
Speaker 2: need to get things off my chest. He's asked verific questions.
Speaker 2: Things can be taken out of context, right that, like
Speaker 2: we don't hear the question being asked, or we don't
Speaker 2: hear what he said before and after that. That is
Speaker 2: a part of things with coaching comments. I am not
Speaker 2: a huge fan of the top of the sport amassing
Speaker 2: talent in the manner in which they are. There's nothing
Speaker 2: there's no solution to it, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's really a storyline. But the the centralization of like
Speaker 2: these crazy deep rosters and the top of the sport
Speaker 2: being sort of unchanged, there's nothing that can realistically be
Speaker 2: done to encourage parody.
Speaker 1: But whatever that's I.
Speaker 2: Think the big thing of recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting,
Speaker 2: and then the recruiting industry is saying, look, stars matter,
Speaker 2: Stars make a huge difference. We know, we all know
Speaker 2: that the teams with the best players. We all know that,
Speaker 2: you know, the people with the most money when it
Speaker 2: comes to luxury homes and luxury yachts have an advantage.
Speaker 2: I think there are huge fan bases that are the
Speaker 2: beneficiaries of those and that's why we talk about it,
Speaker 2: and I get that, but I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's sort of is not my favorite thing. And also
Speaker 2: discussions about conference strength, I understand it's a very popular
Speaker 2: thing to talk about and like, is the SEC deeper
Speaker 2: than any other conference? Is the Big ten blah blah
Speaker 2: blah a CEC versus Big ten ACC big? Like, I
Speaker 2: I understand that they're like, I think you should take
Speaker 2: pride in your team, but taking pride in your conference,
Speaker 2: to me, is and maybe this is just me a
Speaker 2: disappointed and sad PAC twelve fan. And I'll explain the
Speaker 2: whole idea of conferences to you on another show.
Speaker 1: Sure, but it's it's.
Speaker 2: Sort of like the the old like, uh, the old
Speaker 2: boy meets world scene, where you know, you have the
Speaker 2: tiny little bully hanging behind the big bully, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: tell him Franky. You're just like, I'm an Arkansas fan
Speaker 2: sec sec is like, what are you?
Speaker 1: Just go eight and four? Like who cares?
Speaker 2: So that, to me is the thing that I am.
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of conference pride. I think
Speaker 2: it's it's a way to feel good about yourself without
Speaker 2: having your team do a ton to contribute to top
Speaker 2: level success.
Speaker 1: I don't love that. Okay, that's a good answer. I
Speaker 1: like that. Let's go next question, next question.
Speaker 2: On a more serious note, Oh this is shock, He
Speaker 2: asked another question about Will Levis, which we've already gotten into.
Speaker 2: When you think of your schools that you root for,
Speaker 2: who is the one that got away in the way
Speaker 2: that Georgia fans think about Justin Fields perhaps, or maybe
Speaker 2: Ohio State fans think about Joe Burrow, who is the coach,
Speaker 2: who is the player. We are like, oh, if we
Speaker 2: just got two more years, what.
Speaker 1: Could have been? Who is the one?
Speaker 2: And I'll open this up a little bit more as
Speaker 2: an Oregon fan because the what if is not necessarily
Speaker 2: about transfers. I was trying to think of a high
Speaker 2: level transfer who went somewhere else and just destroyed. Like
Speaker 2: Lake Seastronk had a very good career at Baylor, didn't
Speaker 2: work out at Oregon. But I don't think Oregon fans
Speaker 2: are like, oh, if only Lake Seestronk had stuck there.
Speaker 2: Oregon fans are always gonna be wistful about Chip Kelly.
Speaker 2: But look, four years, four BCS Bowls, it made sense
Speaker 2: like he was in a huge place. He's not from
Speaker 2: the West Coast, he had this opportunity in Philly. I
Speaker 2: think Oregon fans understood that the what if is a
Speaker 2: season that got away. It's Dennis Dixon's knee that's gonna
Speaker 2: be the one that got away. Answer is Dennis Dixon's
Speaker 2: acl That's the one. And now this was an Oregon
Speaker 2: team that was besieged by injury that year as well
Speaker 2: around Dennis Dixon. You know, the receiving corps was beat up,
Speaker 2: but defense was beat up. But that's the one where
Speaker 2: he was so special in Chip Kelly's first year as
Speaker 2: a coordinator. That that acl in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: the very topsy turvy season. That's the one that Oregon
Speaker 2: fans are nodding along with saying, yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have always been very curious what Notre Dame would
Speaker 3: have looked like in the mid to late nineties if
Speaker 3: Randy Moss did go to South Bend.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we never got away because he was never there,
Speaker 1: but that was a what if.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he signed a letter of intent to go to
Speaker 3: to go to Notre Dame and ended up obviously at Marshall,
Speaker 3: becoming one of the all time grades in college football,
Speaker 3: going on to great things in the NFL as well.
Speaker 3: But you know, those were decent enough Notre Dame football
Speaker 3: teams that if you had a little bit more pop
Speaker 3: on offense, obviously a game breaking talent like Randy Moss
Speaker 3: is gonna take you places. It took that Marshall team places, right,
Speaker 3: That to me would have been interesting. The one that
Speaker 3: got away, I don't know. There are probably plenty of
Speaker 3: instances where you could break down injuries. You could talk
Speaker 3: about things like that that maybe.
Speaker 1: The real well on.
Speaker 3: But for me, for I maybe the curiosity at least
Speaker 3: has always been Randy Moss.
Speaker 1: What year was?
Speaker 2: What signing class?
Speaker 1: Here was that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety five was Notre Dame around that time built
Speaker 2: to win big short of a game changing receiver if
Speaker 2: you remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they they had enough talent. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to go through my brain here, remember who
Speaker 3: they had on that team.
Speaker 1: But they had like.
Speaker 3: Their own version of a game breaking wide out in
Speaker 3: Derek Mays, who was pretty good back then. Those are
Speaker 3: I think the Sean Wooden years when he was playing
Speaker 3: defensive back. He obviously went on.
Speaker 1: To a pro career as well.
Speaker 3: Throughout the course of the late nineties, this was basically
Speaker 3: an eight to nine win team. Sure, Okay, so it
Speaker 3: wasn't It wasn't a bad team by any stretch. Now,
Speaker 3: Bob Davey took over I think in what ninety seven,
Speaker 3: and that's when came a little bit off the swivel.
Speaker 3: But for sure, having Randy Moss in that off fence
Speaker 3: would have elevated things in the passing game for sure.
Speaker 2: Let's get to a couple of non college football questions
Speaker 2: for the universe. Listening at large, and then we're gonna
Speaker 2: hammer a bunch of good college strong college football questions,
Speaker 2: and strong non college football questions for the extended Verballer
Speaker 2: verballers dot com only.
Speaker 1: Show Boom Matreon only, Okay.
Speaker 2: Boom outside of college football. Tie Joe wants to know
Speaker 2: how do you find passion and enjoy outside of college football?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What makes you the happiest? What is the most fulfilling
Speaker 2: part of your life? Will We'll leave family and friends
Speaker 2: out of this because the best of your family, the
Speaker 2: best of your friends is true for everybody. But in
Speaker 2: terms of attention, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Being out in the golf course is pretty great.
Speaker 1: Right, it's good answer, good answer, good answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went out and the golf course is pretty great.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a little hanging fruit, and I
Speaker 3: hate to give an uncreative answer, but let's be real.
Speaker 3: I'll say this. When I'm out on the golf course
Speaker 3: and there's nobody in front of you and you can
Speaker 3: play at your own pace, You're not looking at a
Speaker 3: five and a half hour loop, That to me is
Speaker 3: a certain paradise that I don't often get to experience.
Speaker 2: Sure, what else anything else walks with the dog.
Speaker 1: I mean, I sort of consider the dog family.
Speaker 3: That's true, fair enough, but for sure, if not, walks
Speaker 3: with the pup are pretty great, how about you.
Speaker 2: Okay, So obviously the pizza baking brings me a good
Speaker 2: amount of passion and joy. The other day I launched
Speaker 2: a pie and it was a great launch. That's the
Speaker 2: big thing that separates the amateurs from the pros launching
Speaker 2: being you gotta flower your peel, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 2: judg it, shimmey it into the oven the surface yea,
Speaker 2: and people will have you know, you get some weird
Speaker 2: amiebas and weird shapes because people don't know what they're
Speaker 2: doing all the time in terms of shaping and launching.
Speaker 1: Get a good launch. I had one the.
Speaker 2: Other day and I yelled and pumped my fist. I
Speaker 2: was like, let's go, and Jody with an I screamed
Speaker 2: from upstairs.
Speaker 1: Everything okay, what happened? What happened? Yeah? I was like, nope,
Speaker 1: I'm just yelling over the entry points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez, just yelling it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jeets, Pizza baking is a big one for me.
Speaker 2: Love tennis, look forward to tennis, been fully back into
Speaker 2: the sport, played out a ton as a kid and
Speaker 2: needed an indoor, outdoor sport to you know, workout situation
Speaker 2: with cold winters here, Tennis brings me a ton of joy.
Speaker 2: I like tennis people, I like pizza people, I like
Speaker 2: all that stuff. Otherwise, outside of family and friends and
Speaker 2: you know, I'm hanging with the kids, is great.
Speaker 1: But those are the two biggies.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big gamer. I don't watch a ton
Speaker 2: of TV. Like, I'm not super into like a mystery
Speaker 2: show right now or something like that. I like good
Speaker 2: stand up comedy and going to a couple shows coming
Speaker 2: up here in the Chicago area which I'm pretty excited about.
Speaker 2: But by the way, big recommendation is Jared Jared Carter,
Speaker 2: Jared Carmichael really good on HBO. Rothaniel is special. Those
Speaker 2: are the two biggies I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll also say with with summer coming up, Dan, yeah,
Speaker 3: and travel and travel that'sl sure, yeah.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: This is my last answer on this one.
Speaker 1: Then we got to move on. Please.
Speaker 3: But in the summertime, as you're out and about, friends
Speaker 3: invite you over to picnics or barbecues, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Oftentimes you will find yourself in a situation where you
Speaker 3: get unexpectedly tipsy. Sure you weren't expecting to well, drunks,
Speaker 3: little buzz, not getting crazy. Yeah, just in a good mood.
Speaker 3: You're with good people, you have a libation. Mm hmm,
Speaker 3: so much of its mood. You know this, of course,
Speaker 3: just in good spirits and it just sort of happens.
Speaker 3: Take a couple of SIPs and okay, I'm feeling I'm
Speaker 3: feeling pretty good. Is this Are you saying making out
Speaker 3: with strangers not making out with strangers?
Speaker 1: That's different.
Speaker 3: That's a different answer. But okay, when you're in those situations,
Speaker 3: you're not expecting that you're going to end up there,
Speaker 3: and it is fleeting. It never lasts. It's sort of
Speaker 3: like a solar eclipse. But those key moments in the summertime,
Speaker 3: surprise buzz, a surprise.
Speaker 2: Your answer is an answer that you have here? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's what's what's your sweet spot to get
Speaker 2: the surprise buzz, It's got to be the people around you. Well,
Speaker 2: I think it's more than people around you. Honestly, you
Speaker 2: can get buzz on something that's like four percent if
Speaker 2: you've got good people around you and you're just in
Speaker 2: good spirits, you start feeling a little.
Speaker 1: Whitehead, a little tipsy.
Speaker 2: So what like is there like so two beers beer
Speaker 2: and a half like a little cocksipping on a cocktail.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know I can hold my liquor. You've
Speaker 3: been around, No, you can. Sometimes it only takes. It's
Speaker 3: just like one very weak drink and you're in good
Speaker 3: company and you're just feeling on top of the world.
Speaker 3: Does Mama hs drink poorly? What does that mean? Like
Speaker 3: she gets a little sloppy after a single glass of
Speaker 3: wine or something you could dilute a single glass of
Speaker 3: a single half glass of a very weak wine and
Speaker 3: a couple SIPs in she's like, this is really strong?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, same g Sambo's from Mama Rubinstein. And it's
Speaker 2: like only Thanksgiving, you know, it's only like where she's
Speaker 2: stressed out and we're like, why don't you just have
Speaker 2: a drink? You know, she's running around, why don't you
Speaker 2: have a drink? And she'll have like a glass of
Speaker 2: wine or something like that, and she'll have six and
Speaker 2: a half SIPs of you know, chardonnay or something like that,
Speaker 2: and she will sit in a chair throw her hand
Speaker 2: onto her forehead and say.
Speaker 1: I'm so high.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a thing. It's it's a mom's drinking thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's I don't have a Yeah, the surprise
Speaker 2: buzz is not a passion or joy for me as
Speaker 2: a I don't really drink that much, but I can
Speaker 2: appreciate the right mood. You're sitting around a fire, you know,
Speaker 2: you're hanging out at a picnic, you're doing something.
Speaker 1: You're outside. Yeah, surprise jerk.
Speaker 2: This is this is what jerk Martin is what this
Speaker 2: person labeled themselves as alternatives to ketchup, honey mustard, barbecue sauce,
Speaker 2: et cetera. For French fries.
Speaker 1: This is your music, Dan, No, no, no, Ty, you're
Speaker 1: a fry guy. I am a fry guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you get away from ketchup family, ketchup barbecue sauce,
Speaker 2: things that are very similar to that, and you get
Speaker 2: away from honey mustard, yeah, which I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: associate honey mustard with fries.
Speaker 3: I've done the dip with honey mustard in fries.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's fine. I think it's totally tasty.
Speaker 2: I associate honey mustard more with like chicken tenders chicken nuggets.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's the natural pairing. But do you
Speaker 2: have any wild card sauces for dipping a fry? Where
Speaker 2: are we with like cheese whiz? I mean, you don't
Speaker 2: need to say we. If that's your answer, you can
Speaker 2: just stand by it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that counts, But some sort of
Speaker 3: cheese situation for the fries I think is okay, and
Speaker 3: cheese whiz is as about as close as you get
Speaker 3: to like the so like, have you.
Speaker 2: Dip the fry into like queso, like caso dip, because
Speaker 2: that's sort of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not bad, that that's dub but I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's a substitute. Yeah, I'd like to agree
Speaker 3: as a podcast that Mayo is not the answer here.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I don't know if I can stand with you there.
Speaker 1: I don't see.
Speaker 3: I'm not a Mayo guy. I'm not a Mayo guy.
Speaker 2: I So I make a burger sauce. I'm given out
Speaker 2: the recipe to listeners, happy to do it even more.
Speaker 2: And it's a Mayo bas but a lot gets added
Speaker 2: to it. There's barbecue sauce, there's lemon juice, there's seasonings.
Speaker 2: There's saracha, and so it's that you know that catch
Speaker 2: all pinkish yellow sauce. You've seen it, sure, almost like
Speaker 2: a big Max sauce, like a better verse a big
Speaker 2: Mac or in and out, you know the Burger sauce
Speaker 2: thousand islandy that with fries, I think to me, because
Speaker 2: you get the creamy and the crunchy. My other wild
Speaker 2: card would be chimmy churry like oil and herbs and.
Speaker 1: Spices together is very good. Okay, That's all I know.
Speaker 1: People like their uh.
Speaker 2: People in the comments are mentioned vinegar, salt and vinegar,
Speaker 2: you know that kind of thing with your fish and chips.
Speaker 2: They like that malted vinegar. But no, that's my answer,
Speaker 2: final question, and then we're going to go to everybody else.
Speaker 2: I suppose, yeah, our Patreon only portion of this. Colonel
Speaker 2: ag long time for baller. What is the greatest achievement
Speaker 2: you have witnessed live? He or she does not indicate
Speaker 2: sports achievement, does not indicate, you know, a physical achievement
Speaker 2: of some kind. What is the greatest achievement that you've
Speaker 2: witnessed but not taken place necessarily in a starring role.
Speaker 2: So I guess if like you were on a basketball team,
Speaker 2: it's somebody dropped eighty three points or something like. That's
Speaker 2: pretty great achievement. But what what is something you've witnessed
Speaker 2: physical or not in person?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: I saw the Bush.
Speaker 3: Push and you know, I don't know if that was
Speaker 3: any great achievement per se, but it was a legendary
Speaker 3: moment in college football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not an achievement, I don't think, not in it.
Speaker 3: I mean achievement.
Speaker 2: Like even from that game, I would say Matt Lionert hitting.
Speaker 1: Who did he hit?
Speaker 3: Was it Dwayne Jarrett?
Speaker 1: Dwayne Jarrett? Yeah?
Speaker 2: On fourth and long up the sideline down the side.
Speaker 2: Was I think more of a degree of difficulty achievement
Speaker 2: than a you know, one yard run that you were
Speaker 2: pushed into the end zone game.
Speaker 3: So that that moment obviously I saw. But in terms
Speaker 3: of it achievement, Wow, what a great question. Do you
Speaker 3: have an answer?
Speaker 1: I have a couple. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there's a sports one like
Speaker 2: I saw Kobe hit essentially two game winners in person.
Speaker 2: I went to a Lakers Blazers game in college and
Speaker 2: like the row of the then Rose Garden, it's called
Speaker 2: like the modus center now, and I think he hit
Speaker 2: a buzzer beater to send it to overtime, and he
Speaker 2: hit another like game winner buzzer beater. That was awesome.
Speaker 2: That was just like, especially as a Laker fan in
Speaker 2: Portland in like enemy territory, that was a great like
Speaker 2: I don't know how many you maybe scored thirty some
Speaker 2: odd points whatever, that was just like an awesome You know,
Speaker 2: I've seen game winning plays at football stadiums, I've seen
Speaker 2: all of that, but of people I know, I am
Speaker 2: first of all, I destroyed on a game show. That's
Speaker 2: my best personal achievement. I was nine years old and
Speaker 2: I also hit a game winning three pointer myself. Freshman year,
Speaker 2: my then roommate and friends down the hall decided to
Speaker 2: do the milk challenge. Oh no, the gallon of milk
Speaker 2: in an hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh no.
Speaker 2: And I can, with honesty, with confidence say that it's
Speaker 2: the only time I've ever seen somebody drink a gallon
Speaker 2: of milk in an hour and puke up a gallon
Speaker 2: of milk at once, Like you know when you watch
Speaker 2: SNL and they do like the cartoonish like they put
Speaker 2: their hand which is connected to a tube next to
Speaker 2: their mouths and they throw up cartoonishly. Yeah, I got
Speaker 2: to see that. I got to see the most violently
Speaker 2: robust vomiting experience that I'll probably ever see. The other one,
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to say personal achievement, but it was.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you just.
Speaker 2: Come across somebody who's very specifically talented at something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, see, this is where I'm going with my answer.
Speaker 1: Continue.
Speaker 2: Yes, I saw as like a twelve year old or
Speaker 2: fourteen year old. This is not the most talented thing
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. It's not the best achievement I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: It's just something that came up in my mind that
Speaker 2: like sometimes you just you watch somebody do like a
Speaker 2: miracle run, like you know, so you watch a clip
Speaker 2: of like an Olympic skier, Like nobody's ever done a
Speaker 2: run this perfectly. Nobody has ever been like Simone Biles
Speaker 2: and gotten a ninety nine point ninety nine nine whatever.
Speaker 1: Like whatever.
Speaker 2: This is nowhere near that. But I saw my longtime
Speaker 2: lifelong friend Josh Hit like twelve or fourteen on a
Speaker 2: round of taboo where.
Speaker 1: He was just.
Speaker 2: In the zone. He was in the zone. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he was a spec like I don't know
Speaker 2: if the clues just perfectly aligned with his personal strengths
Speaker 2: on giving those clues in taboo. But at one point
Speaker 2: he got handcuffs. That you understand the game of taboo, right,
Speaker 2: You're given a word and you have to describe the
Speaker 2: word without using five or so keywords that are given.
Speaker 2: And it was handcuffs. And he said twin bracelets of crime.
Speaker 2: And I said, without a flippin' hesitation, I said to myself,
Speaker 2: this is a man, twelve year old in his element. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think a good round of taboo is like
Speaker 2: six or seven you get a minute, right, six, seven,
Speaker 2: eight or something like that. He was well into double digits,
Speaker 2: and it was just watching a man again boy do
Speaker 2: what he was meant to do.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 3: I have two answers here, okay, kind of in a
Speaker 3: similar vein. The first is my nine year old nephew
Speaker 3: who can do a Rubik's cube in about forty five seconds.
Speaker 1: It's pretty great.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can do a Rubik's cube.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, can you have you? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not.
Speaker 3: He can do it in forty five seconds. Now he's
Speaker 3: got one of the speed cubes.
Speaker 1: Because he can can do it this quickly.
Speaker 3: But you know, you see clips on YouTube of people
Speaker 3: doing it of all ages. To see it up close
Speaker 3: and personal is sort of like sorcery. Yeah, so that
Speaker 3: maybe doesn't rise to the greatest achievement ever, but I've
Speaker 3: it's amazing. The second thing is actually in the flip
Speaker 3: side of the equation. You're familiar with cornhole, you're familiar
Speaker 3: with bean bags of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bags. Yeah.
Speaker 3: When I was in college, I was at a picnic
Speaker 3: thrown by a friend and another friend of his was
Speaker 3: playing around onto bean bags and wasn't drunk, was perfectly
Speaker 3: able bodied, and when I'm not kidding, an entire game
Speaker 3: of bean bags without even hitting the board.
Speaker 1: On the other side, that's amazing.
Speaker 3: It was almost impossible. It was a case of the yips.
Speaker 3: He was sweating because of this, and he was very embarrassed.
Speaker 3: Everybody at the party was laughing. He was trying his
Speaker 3: best to get the bean bag into the hole. He
Speaker 3: could not do it. He could not hit the board.
Speaker 3: It was the all time greatest display of yips I've
Speaker 3: ever seen in my life, up close and personal. And
Speaker 3: I just don't know how that's even possible, even the
Speaker 3: worst person at that game can find a way to
Speaker 3: hit the board. He couldn't even nick it. Incredible, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've seen so many different sporting events in
Speaker 2: person and so many athletes at the top of their games.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I've been to the Olympic Trials, I've been to the
Speaker 2: US Open. I've been to major golf tournaments. I've been
Speaker 2: to NASCAR, I've been to Football base you name it.
Speaker 2: I've seen the best of the best on big, huge stages.
Speaker 2: But man, shout out to Jared for just annihilating that milk.
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