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Speaker 1: some games in your name. You bring some people here.

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Speaker 2: You know, you bring somebody, they lose, I'll give you fifty.

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Speaker 1: Man, that happens now, you don't realize that's the mob.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack

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Speaker 3: and Kyler, and we're on a mission to find the

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Speaker 3: greatest game of all time. And on today's episode, we

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Speaker 3: are covering the fifty four point game between the Suns

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Speaker 3: season with NBA vet Arizona Wildcat Legend and a man

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Speaker 3: that has absolutely no chill, Gilbert Arenas, and we're talking

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Speaker 3: the current state of the NBA. Yikes.

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Speaker 1: The pleasure you have to worry about is if they

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Speaker 1: can make an extra two hundred thousand doing I'm dumb, then.

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Speaker 3: Try what it's like to be in the zone.

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Speaker 1: I'm like Michael short Another, I'm doing dunks. I I just.

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Speaker 4: Had no business doing.

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Speaker 3: And who deserves a bodyguard in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: That's only May four, Alan iverson Kobe shot You're not

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Speaker 3: And then we hit a starting five of best sports

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Speaker 3: nicknames in this week's Chill Zone, presented by Corp's Light.

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Speaker 3: You gotta stick around to the very end. Let's go

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Speaker 3: Games with Names of production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 5: December twenty second, two thousand and six, US Airways Center, Phoenix, Arizona, fresh.

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Speaker 1: Off sixty piece and the thirty piece.

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Speaker 5: Agent zero is back in the desert looking for revenge.

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Speaker 2: This is fifty four point.

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Speaker 4: Yay, I was trying to master tone.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to games with names Today we are

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Speaker 3: looking at the fifty four point game Wizards versus the

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Speaker 3: Suns in two thousand and six with Gilbert arenas Gilbert?

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Speaker 3: What do I call you? Gil Gilly, Gilly Gilly? In

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Speaker 3: one sentence, why this game revenge?

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Speaker 4: This was a revenge game for me.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the best answer for that question history of the show,

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Speaker 2: the history of the show for revenge.

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Speaker 3: Is this the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 4: For me? Yes? For you?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: What's the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 4: For you? If I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Childhood, it would be Kobe's last game, Kobe's last game,

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Speaker 1: how he finished as a basketball fan like loving just

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Speaker 2: He's the goat. Yeah, not Lebron.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I got beat up too much for

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Speaker 3: So no one beating anyone up for Lebron shoes.

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Speaker 4: No, No, you can get his online. Back then you

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Speaker 3: People don't realize that was like a real commodity. Jordan's

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Speaker 1: Bro still are. Yeah, people don't realize that it it

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Speaker 4: You know, we called them.

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Speaker 3: We call them the true Trujant Jordan's if you're truant

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Speaker 1: Uh? Got gils Arena, gils Arena battle mode right, and

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Speaker 1: just launched the football show grid Ion one of your guys.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Avengers. I like this.

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Speaker 3: So the brother dies and he comes back and helps him,

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Speaker 3: I mean, how crazy is this whole basketball thing?

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Speaker 3: He got a bunch of books with a bunch of names.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what's coming out of the names.

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Speaker 1: No, and and even if they did, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: everything you just said that them sounds exciting. Yeah, the girls, yes,

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Speaker 4: There you go. You don't want to be me.

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Speaker 3: We will look at it like, yeah, see the NFL

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Speaker 3: He told us to get a fall guy whise Whise.

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Speaker 3: But like I think that's like I specifically remember talking

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Speaker 4: The problem.

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Speaker 1: What it is is one you do not know who's who, right,

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Speaker 1: So what ends up happening is you get compromised. Like

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Speaker 1: you know, most athletes, you know, they they gamble, they're competitive, right,

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Speaker 1: so if they're playing poker do it.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to lose.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes usually when I hear numbers like they lost

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Speaker 1: two hundred thousand, five hundred thousand a million, I just

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Speaker 1: assumed ninety five percent they got cheated. So anytime I

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Speaker 4: Who's working together.

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Speaker 1: That's that's I don't I'm not looking at I'm just

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Speaker 3: Who's not playing home playing home games?

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Speaker 4: This doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: Who's this? So once I start peeping that out, I

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Speaker 4: Look, just let me throw some games in your name.

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Speaker 1: that happens. Now you don't realize that's the mob, that's

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Speaker 1: An extra twenty thousand, Like now they get compromised losing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they just bad on the NBA. I

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Speaker 3: think that if you're telling me that they don't educate

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Speaker 3: and you're not helping these young kids. That's shame on

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Speaker 2: Those are the ones you don't have to worry about.

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Speaker 4: Never.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about the superstar. Right, it's

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Speaker 1: So you don't have to worry about those players. The

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Speaker 1: So if you if they can make an extra two

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Speaker 2: Like middle class that's like reached their ceiling, but like.

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Speaker 1: Enough to you're gonna get subbed in to get like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, that's the guys that.

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Speaker 1: You're you're you know, there's no books that actually got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing, like who's who's who's checking for you

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Speaker 1: Bro, nobody's gonna put fifty thousand on.

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Speaker 4: You in total?

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Speaker 4: Like it's only That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So they don't have really lines for these right, you

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Speaker 4: There's no line for Brianni James to get in or.

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Speaker 1: Get out, right, there's there's it's just not so you

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Speaker 1: know when that happens, it's flagged. Yeah, it's it's trust me,

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Speaker 1: it's flagged. Right, So they see it in real time

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Speaker 1: Like so you start seeing like, wait, wait, ten million,

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Speaker 4: Hold on?

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Speaker 1: And then like if it because so they're gonna look

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be like, yeah, it's it's it's voided out.

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Speaker 3: You really hope that the leagues learn from this, because

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Speaker 3: I don't think this is from the gambling. This ain't

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Speaker 3: and putting the dude like they're they're gonna make an

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Speaker 3: because you can't be having that it's it's it's especially

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the funny thing is it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: Like I don't want to say Trump, but it's the

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Speaker 4: Right now, you're talking about the mob, right, so.

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Speaker 2: It's the last time we talked about them.

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Speaker 4: But I never go too And that's the and that's

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Speaker 3: I just had a conversation with like I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: it's so hard to be like literally, like three months ago,

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Speaker 3: I was like, you think about it. I was watching

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Speaker 3: And then this happens. They're still around and you're sitting

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Speaker 3: there like who who and who?

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Speaker 1: What's what?

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Speaker 8: What what?

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Speaker 2: Because they don't have any jobs, right, they can't get just.

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Speaker 4: So this is this is how it is.

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Speaker 1: So you're using you're using sports and you know, so

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Speaker 1: I got to use you famous peoples to push this narrative,

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Speaker 4: Here we go. Man, Yeah, hopefully, as I said, this

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Speaker 4: is this is all mob.

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Speaker 1: But all you see is some point name yes, So

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Speaker 1: the biggest names you've heard is probably the ones that

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Speaker 4: That's the biggest ones. You're caught.

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Speaker 1: I don't flash his headline. You just to splash his headline.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, they'll probably drop a name here and

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Speaker 8: Do that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't see any other There'd be some college

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Speaker 4: But they did exactly what they needed to do.

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Speaker 2: The one thing out of this is that I think

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Speaker 2: for baseball, just like all this gambling shit that's going on,

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Speaker 2: all this stuff, like he only for his team, he

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Speaker 1: Wait, that's that's illegal.

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Speaker 4: I thought the idea was, don't compromise the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Pete Rose is the primate example why there

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be shit going on right now. Of course they

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Speaker 2: He's dead and he's dead man.

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Speaker 1: No, It is very hypocritical. Yeah, I'm like, yo, I

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Speaker 1: want to go score fifty. That's what I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: it's a great thing to.

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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I believe in us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah are you are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you tapped in on other sports? Because of your show,

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Speaker 3: I'm tapping into football a lot more. Yeah, have you

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Speaker 1: Just I just players here and there, and I can

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a higher it's a higher level of

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: This is not just you know, talk basketball and you'd

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Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, you can just look at percentages

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Speaker 1: when you're talking football. You actually have to know what

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Speaker 1: So it's like, I see how like ESPN and first

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Speaker 1: for you, Good for you. They start talking for fifteen

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Speaker 2: Done ze, You're done.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 3: The strategy in football is so crazy. It's crazy to

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Speaker 3: And it's just breaking down like you said, percentages when

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Speaker 3: People don't know you gotta be smart to play football.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's all sitting here thinking to Kobe Bryants, like you

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Speaker 4: And I gotta guard him?

444
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: Like you know, now it's a think he's making today's game.

445
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: Make it simple, five out passing cut. You don't have

446
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: to remember any place, let alone draw a play on

447
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: this side and then the coaches like, oh shit, the

448
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: balls on that side.

449
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 4: Just flip it and he's a flip it flip like

450
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 4: you literally lose.

451
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: At least eighty five percent, eighty five percent of the

452
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: players if you draw a play up in the timeout

453
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: and then just flip the play, just say aa flip

454
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: it eighty five percent be like wait wait what the

455
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: like just the comprehension level, you know what.

456
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: That I would say some of the guys in the

457
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: league with if you just said flip it and you

458
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: didn't install it, it could be a tongue twister.

459
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, on this side, I go here, here,

460
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: I go to that side, I go here here. They'd

461
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 1: be like, oh do I go here?

462
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 4: A out of bounds?

463
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: Like oh, just now, just how about Wemby, though, is

464
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 3: he going to be like the Is he the next one?

465
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, as long as he is he the next one.

466
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: As long as he can stay healthy, he is the

467
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: next one. Like all the attributes are there, the gift,

468
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: the skills, the IQ obviously, the advantage of the height,

469
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: the shot that like he was bred to be doing.

470
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Speaker 2: What he's doing and got good attitude.

471
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: And he's a great he has a great attitude, Like

472
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: he's a humble person. He's French, you know, right, you know,

473
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: so they're all kind and stuff. So you know French.

474
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 2: The French are super arrogant, aren't.

475
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 4: Right, That's the old French.

476
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: So as long as he stays healthy, he is going

477
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: to be Defensive Player of the Year MVP.

478
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: He probably should be the only person to do the

479
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: quadruple double, the quadruple double.

480
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 4: Ten blocks ten like he assists, rebounds.

481
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: And scorings that he will be the next person to

482
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Speaker 2: do it.

483
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: I think David Robinson did it in the eighties.

484
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Maybe Elijah Alvin Robertson was a king or David last one,

485
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: So the last one I believe was David Rumson nineteen

486
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Speaker 2: ninety four.

487
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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so yeah.

488
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Speaker 1: He be no.

489
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: When's the last time we've had an American m v P.

490
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: It's been like eight years technic.

491
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: Technically, like technically we could say last year with Shae.

492
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from Canada. That's just like the that's the

493
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: American hat American.

494
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, American.

495
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: Who's our next game?

496
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 4: No, like he's he's.

497
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: No true, But like sh Shaye was trained, he was

498
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: trained here growing up. Same thing with Steve Nash. The

499
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: two guards were actually trained in America growing up. So okay,

500
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: I get it.

501
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: If this is Chappelle and we're trading eminem for.

502
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 4: We're gonna.

503
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Who's the next US and VP? Who's the next one?

504
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: Is it flag?

505
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: Who else is on the radar? Is it Anthony?

506
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: Give it to j Anthony? Anthony?

507
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards is the closest thing we have that's young

508
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: enough that has that game to do it. I mean,

509
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: you had j T until he got hurt. Wild Card?

510
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: Is Jah Morant the style the play?

511
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not even in the like really like

512
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: they're not even in the combo right now yet. And

513
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm not a basketball and I'm not I'm not tapped in.

514
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: I just watched the highlight Polo Benchero, Paulo Benchero.

515
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: Pollow is the probably the only one who.

516
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: Like, what are all the kids in in Chicago, New York,

517
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 3: in Cali, wherever the best ballers come from? What are

518
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: what are we doing right now? We ain't got nobody?

519
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, We're we're we're still dominating.

520
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 4: Are you killing it?

521
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 6: No?

522
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: No, no no, We're still dominant over the field, right

523
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: we are now. It's always been there, but we no

524
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: one really paid attention. If you go back to like

525
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: the eighties and stuff, the European big men, they were

526
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: always skilled. They were always skilled. Right, you're talking about

527
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: to Vlade, you're talking about sabone.

528
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: Bonus, right, So what they had was guard like skills.

529
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 4: Right.

530
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: So with the bonus, he was a great pastor. He

531
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: can dribble, but by the time we got him, he

532
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: was old.

533
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: We had old man, right.

534
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: So you're talking about Tony Koukoach, Right, you're talking about

535
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: what did Vladi do?

536
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 4: Vlatti had vision.

537
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: So every every big that came in here kind of

538
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: stood above everybody else.

539
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: They just adapted.

540
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: More so when you look at all the Europeans that's

541
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: dominating here, they're all bigs, right, Lucas Lucas six nine

542
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: and a half six ten, right, he's a small Ford,

543
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: but they put him at the guard big advantage. Right.

544
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: Other than that, Janni's Yo kic right, embiid Right, Rudy

545
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: Goldbert like everyone at Yeah, he's but he's Canada. He's

546
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: a Canadian.

547
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: But think about it.

548
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: The two MVPs that were guards, that's not from here.

549
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: They're both Canadian that training trained here. Right, It's not

550
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: like the foreigner, which the only one.

551
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 4: Will be VP would be Luca. Right.

552
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: So what happens over there is at that youth age,

553
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: everyone's guards.

554
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: So everyone do everything.

555
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: So all my big So we're not going to say, okay,

556
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: you're bigger than everybody else, you're going to play center

557
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 1: for us.

558
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: They don't believe in that. That's what we do.

559
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: That's the problem with us is our Cooper Flags and

560
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: our who would have like our who else is tall here?

561
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 4: So Cooper Flags or even.

562
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: Like Apaulo bencherod Ad once they get to a certain

563
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: height in developmental age, that team it says, no, you're gonna.

564
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: Be a big right versus we're all seven eight nine.

565
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: We're all guards. We got to get the ball of

566
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: the court, and that's what they do.

567
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: They're there.

568
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: They just train everybody, make sure you have skill, dribbling,

569
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: pass and everything. So if you do go up to

570
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: a big you are a yokic. You're not just these

571
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: brute guys.

572
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 4: You're yokic.

573
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: You have Basically you're telling me we're never having an

574
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: MVP again, a.

575
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: Real specialization too early.

576
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 4: It's not even special.

577
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: It's because we care about money and we want to win.

578
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: We if we have an advantage. Right, So, if we're

579
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: eight years old and we have a kid that is

580
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: already bigger or stronger than everybody, you're automatically the center.

581
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 4: Even if your parents are both six foot.

582
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Now you got a center that's gonna all be a

583
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: five to ten when he grows up.

584
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: That's what usually has same now versus in the future.

585
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: I think about somebody like, so, who's a couple right

586
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: now Bam and Asia?

587
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 4: Right?

588
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot about that they have a kid at

589
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: eight or nine years old? How tall will that kid be?

590
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna be big. So now that kid on any

591
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: a AAU team is automatic center.

592
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Your center. You can get all the rebounds, you can

593
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: do all.

594
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: That, and that becomes a pub What about reverse engineering.

595
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: They don't do it well.

596
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: He becomes the center, he gets physical, and then once

597
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: he then then we teach him how to you know, dribble.

598
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: Then he's Lebron's and he's like Lebron, but it's too

599
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: where's our next, Lebron?

600
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: It's too late, Lebron.

601
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 7: It's so ingrained in all American sports cultures, like you're

602
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 7: the fat kid, you're the catcher.

603
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: In baseball, like like I was a great catcher, but

604
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like that was a great tackle too.

605
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it to look at the movies, bro.

606
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: And when they see something, right, that just is a

607
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: game shifter. If you don't have an I for it,

608
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: it's just you don't capital lies on shifting the game.

609
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: Right.

610
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: And then there's always these talents that come in that

611
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: are so different and they try to put him in

612
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: the box. So like I guess right now, they'll say

613
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: what Travis Hunter? Yeah right, they don't know what to

614
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: do with him, so they're like, just pick one which

615
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: receiver or no, just let it, let it go, Let's

616
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: see what it is. Right, There's there's a there's a

617
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: game that's out there that you say, hey, play every snap.

618
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: We got to see what we got to see what

619
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: you're capable of. We're telling you you can't do it.

620
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: We don't know what you can do.

621
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: Give me every snap, let's see if you can do

622
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: it or not.

623
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: Let's just go right.

624
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: And they're gonna say, well, he has to learn to

625
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: plays here or here. Hey, it's just like your quarterback

626
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: gets hurt and you got to put somebody else in.

627
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 4: Figure it out. Just go out there and figure it out.

628
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: And that's what it's because football is so technical, you

629
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: don't want to just just go out there and just

630
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: wing it.

631
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 4: Right.

632
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: Basketball, you can't wing it with a third overall pick.

633
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

634
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: In football, there's a game out there, if it's the

635
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: last game, you're not making it to the playoffs, and

636
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: you just say, hey, go do you they see how

637
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: superman you are your capabilities.

638
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: You can't do that in football. There's too much, like

639
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: like you said, there's too much preparation for the strategy.

640
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: Even in a game like just what you can't with

641
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: one person. You could say, hey, all right, you're gonna

642
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: take this guy the whole game. Yeah, and if you

643
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: bastardize all the other rules, or you could put in

644
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 3: a package where you know on third down you're gonna

645
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: have this you know you're gonna have this guy, and

646
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: then on in the red area and third down on offense,

647
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna have these five plays. I mean, that's but

648
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: that's how you have to do it. He can't just

649
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: go like, uh, let's just put him in an offense

650
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: right now because he doesn't know the play for which

651
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, there's just so much stuff

652
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: you have to prepare for and he's learned, like you

653
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: got to be able to digest the installation for offense

654
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: and defense.

655
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: I did it.

656
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: I played both ways in the in the ANFC Championship.

657
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: Like it's tough. You can't unless you're a dude like

658
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: you're saying, where you just say, hey, you stick on

659
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: him all game and then.

660
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: Get open, get open on offense, stop them on defense.

661
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: Like like sometimes sometimes just.

662
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: Like in the NBA, have you ever noticed Austin Reeves,

663
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: no Lebron, no Luca just go one.

664
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: That's it. But you know what I mean, forget the playbook,

665
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: just go out there and just play. Let me let

666
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Speaker 4: me see what because sometimes you.

667
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: Know what they I think they say that to Spencer

668
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: Rattler with the Saints to just go, just go, just go.

669
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: We don't need to have a playbook or anything.

670
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Just go.

671
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: See get his head tagging off, like what is football?

672
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: You know what what happens? And I just what boggles

673
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: me in football is this.

674
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: You have this masterful chess game, right, and then it's

675
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: like three to six whole game and then two minutes left,

676
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, four touchdowns Like come on, wheels fall off.

677
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 9: The rest of the game.

678
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: That's what you're supposed to be doing, is like, because

679
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: two minutes left, you're not thinking as much.

680
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: Or guys are tired, so guy or things become open,

681
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: so it's it's harder to stop the run for a

682
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: whole game.

683
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: Like the whole game.

684
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: This guy has to two gap and he can't mess

685
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: up one time and he's done it for three quarters

686
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: where he read it right one and that one time

687
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't say Kwong goes for sixty you know it's

688
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: in or in you know the defensive line. At the

689
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: end of the game, these jokers get tired, so then

690
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: the quarterback gets some time to throw and then he

691
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 3: could pick apart and go downfield. The dB maybe got

692
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: a little tired.

693
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: You know.

694
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: Bit on like that.

695
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: That's why football, that's why at the back end of

696
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: the games, the better team that's better or in shape

697
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: always comes out and wins.

698
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, I'm jumping for joy because I had the over

699
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 7: and I thought my book's gonna come kill me because.

700
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I was gonna say, they

701
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: get the buzz from the league office.

702
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Ratings are going down.

703
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, either way, whatever you gotta do.

704
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: Roj All right, points, We'll be right back after this

705
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: quick break. Let's go back into time where the game

706
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: took place. This game took place December twenty second, two

707
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: thousand and six, and let's see what some of the

708
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: pop culture was. We did have you on and we

709
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: did talk this year, but I don't really remember as

710
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: much as I do now. Irreplaceable by Beyonce was number

711
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: one great song. Night at the Museum, Number one movie

712
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: in the box office, Ben Stiller's Little The Exhibits that

713
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: Came to life Missouri.

714
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: They have a franchise of that. Are a lot of them?

715
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Speaker 2: Nin at Museum two, Yeah, the second one. I never

716
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: saw that one. Is there a museum you'd want to

717
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: go to overnight?

718
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 3: But are you a museum? They caught the lover people

719
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: that they caught him.

720
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: They caught them.

721
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 3: They made two rests, the two guys that have the

722
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 3: did they find this? I don't know if they found

723
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: the jewelry, but you know you heard about this right,

724
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: you know the Loover. Someone went in like a week

725
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: ago and stole Caesar's Napoleon Napoleon's jewelry something and his

726
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: crown got away. Scott Free jokers are trying to leave

727
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: from Paris International Airport like yesterday and got them.

728
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: And they did it broad daylight, like the museum was open.

729
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: They like took like like ran through, smashed and grabbed

730
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff.

731
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Speaker 3: I macula ice like Robert smashing.

732
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Speaker 1: Well.

733
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Speaker 2: I think they had some hotel. The Louver also, I

734
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: found out doesn't have as much security cameras as you

735
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: would hope, like not every room has cameras in it.

736
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: So I was literally just in there a couple of

737
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: months ago that like main room is like the like

738
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: the fancy like it's were like the Pollyon stuff and

739
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 2: the jewels and all the ship and they like picked

740
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: two things, smashed it open, grabbed it, went out the

741
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: scissor lists and dipped. People were like public and they

742
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: just got them. People were like some people saw it.

743
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 2: I think like it was not just like in the

744
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: middle of the night. It was just nine am.

745
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: That's cool. It was simple just go in there, smash

746
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 4: and grab.

747
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 10: No, they had intel, but I think once they were

748
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 10: in they smashed it and they knew when the cameras

749
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 10: were off and certain like this was this was a

750
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 10: pretty good heist.

751
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: My problem is this when you okay, you grab it.

752
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: Let's that's embarrassing for the place though.

753
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: And it was speculation that because like the historical component

754
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: of what they stole was more valuable than the actual

755
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: like raw materials that they were speculating. It was like

756
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: a private buyer who gave them a ton of money

757
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: and just wanted them themselves as supposed to take it out,

758
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: hrip out the jewels, melt down the gold and sell

759
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: it that way. Okay, Yeah, we should do a movie

760
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: where night the Hall of Fame and you like spend

761
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: the night in the Hall of Fame in the NFL

762
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: wakes up and you gotta like fight dick buckets. We're

763
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: doing basketball.

764
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: Springfield, Ohio. Yeah, I went to this was that porn

765
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Speaker 3: porn fame.

766
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there is I started, sure, like I'd rather

767
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: I'd rather be there than for fighting football players.

768
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: Ron turned to get out of here, wake it up.

769
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: Just to be honest, I like that.

770
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Speaker 4: He'll take me with you.

771
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Speaker 2: Bro. Pause.

772
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 7: Oh my god.

773
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: You a movie guy?

774
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

775
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: What's your favorite movie?

776
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 4: Anything?

777
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: Denzel Nice? I'm a Denzel guy.

778
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 8: You know.

779
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: I just watched that was insane.

780
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: I love it and I can never turn it and

781
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: I watch it probably like once every six months. Inside man,

782
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: I love I love a Denzel every six months. I

783
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: love that movie.

784
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

785
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: I like Denzel as like like a detective that like

786
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: cool detective that has hot babe at home, lets him

787
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: do his job and he comes back. She takes care

788
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: of him, like of.

789
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 4: Man on fire Man on fire Man on fire Junk.

790
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 4: I like Anthony Hopkins.

791
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: Too, really good.

792
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: What's that one where he he kills his wife fracture? Fracture.

793
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: That's a fucking great movie. That is a great, great movie.

794
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 3: And then what he and all the cannibals right, huh, he's.

795
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: Animal can.

796
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 7: So everybody was coming at Denzel for this new highest

797
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 7: to Lowers.

798
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: I liked it.

799
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: I thought it was good the New Spike. I watched

800
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Speaker 2: it it was a little hard.

801
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 4: It was yes, right, it was.

802
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: I love him and it's a Spike Lee joint.

803
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 6: I go.

804
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: I went in with high hopes.

805
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 4: Them too. You went in with high hopes.

806
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 7: I know it's been a minute since I teamed up,

807
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 7: but like I don't know, I still.

808
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: We want Spike Lee and the shape trying to get him.

809
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: It was a great movie. We love Spike.

810
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: Like you're thinking, like, yeah, youven dropped the nine.

811
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Speaker 7: You're like h Then everybody went over.

812
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: It was come on, it wasn't. It wasn't.

813
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: It was it was solid.

814
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: Speaking of m v P s, this is when it

815
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: all started. Dirk Noavinski Newinsky the German took down the

816
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: m v P. The Spurs won the championship, Anheim Ducks

817
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: won the Stanley Cup.

818
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: Sydney City Kid the kid, what are you are you

819
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: a hockey guy?

820
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 4: I was old skin, so I knew.

821
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: I knew Crosbies because they were wow, like.

822
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's great. Now you're talking.

823
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: About like rock star like type of vibe. Like it

824
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: was like like this is like that, like I don't

825
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: care about nothing, just let's let's let's go score goals.

826
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: Let's just go get hammered. At the ball type of

827
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: like he was hockey guys, so he used to train basketball. Cool,

828
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: so both of his parents was basketball, so he used

829
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: to be down. That's crazy.

830
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: You know the the hockey guys there always sneaky, really athletic,

831
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: like you remember that sneaky You remember that.

832
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: You wouldn't think they were because.

833
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 3: Because but there is that old footage of the sprint

834
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Speaker 3: off with who was it?

835
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: Who else?

836
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: Oh it was old.

837
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: There was there was five athletes from five different was

838
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: there it was a basketball player and Gretzky smoked them

839
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Speaker 3: all sugar.

840
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: A sugar Ray Leonard and then Gretzky.

841
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did like a football guy. I don't see

842
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: basketball guy. Football guy would have roasted them or basketball dude.

843
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Those guys have long strides, bro, and if they get going,

844
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: it's like fucking new same bowl you're talking about. Wressell

845
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: Westbrook would be a fucking elite sprinter now if he

846
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: like trained for it.

847
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: He has that.

848
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: Lebron would be a two hundred runner. He would be

849
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Speaker 1: a track downer if he was a hundred. So he

850
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: can't top out at that hundred because he probably has

851
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: that slow start. Yeah, take too much to move his

852
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: first two steps, but that two hundred.

853
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: Who's your who's your four by one?

854
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: In basketball, I'll go with I'll do the Aaron Fox,

855
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: Aaron Fox, the Aaron who else is out there?

856
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: That's like jets, Jets.

857
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: I'll give you mine. Just let you think all time.

858
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 4: I'll go.

859
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: We'll start it, but probably prime time, well prime rime

860
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: leap fast. Then we probably give it to Bo. Let

861
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: him grind through that second turn and Bo Jackson, the

862
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: motherfucker was fast. And then uh, then I got for

863
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: my third, my third leg, I'm gonna give it to

864
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: old Darryl Green joker four four until he was fifty fifty.

865
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 3: And then lastly, you gotta go Tyreek Hill right at

866
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Speaker 3: the end. YEP, that's a that's an elite. There's a

867
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: couple of guys that were in the Olympics that that

868
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: were Olympics guys that were playing football, like Jeff Demps

869
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: when he came to our team, he was on the

870
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Speaker 3: four by one.

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00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 4: But I wasn't a t O.

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00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 3: T o's fast too. I mean t O that that'd

873
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: be like a four by four, My four by four team,

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00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: t O's on there. Randy oh ship, I didn't even

875
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: put Randy on there.

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00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 9: Man.

877
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: Wasn't Bob Hayes in the Olympics too?

878
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

879
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: Baby, who's that that sprinter?

880
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 4: Best?

881
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: Didn't he he was nice? Wasn't he like a cow?

882
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

883
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: Wasn't he like he was fast? I don't know if

884
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: he was. I mean, I might be basketball for I

885
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

886
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: I'll go me, I go me. Are you fat? Yeah?

887
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: You fat?

888
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: Run?

889
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 4: I ran a ten three in high school. Ten three?

890
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 4: You're spoking? So I was.

891
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 10: I was.

892
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: I was tracked first. So I did the one hundred

893
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: four by one. I was an anchor. Then I did

894
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: four hundred and four by four where I went to

895
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: Birmingham High School and then and I transferred for basketball

896
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: to Grant And then the ninety six Olympics, there was

897
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: a kid by the name of Obie Moore who was

898
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: like the god. He was our Michael Jordan in the

899
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: four hundred and he went to the Olympics. It was

900
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: Michael Michael Johnson's gold choose that year. He came in

901
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: like six or something, and I was like, oh, what

902
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: did you see him?

903
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 4: That was great? Right? So what happens to that?

904
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, four more years and then the next

905
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: Olympic and I'm like four more years like what being

906
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: broke o HeLa And I ran my last race and

907
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: I quit and I was like, I'm good, I'm just

908
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna try this basketball stuff.

909
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 4: I quit track on this and then just like I'm

910
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: fully investigated, only.

911
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: Ten three ten threes flying at eighteen.

912
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I went to I went to I was sixteen.

913
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: I went to So.

914
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: I went to a track school.

915
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: So Ray Caruth, his uncle was our track coach then,

916
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: so he was our track coach and most of the athletes,

917
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: all his sprinters were straight like straight line to usc Okay.

918
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: So it was we It was a track school like

919
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: we was on like a when I was there was

920
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: like a seventy two track meet windspree like they lost

921
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: in forever.

922
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 9: He got game with Denzel Okay, you didn't like he

923
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 9: got I liked it. But for basketball, yeah, I was

924
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 9: a great one.

925
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: What other events did you do for track and fe

926
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: It was just it was just.

927
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: Those two they wanted me to do like long jump

928
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: and high jump, but I didn't because I wasn't thinking

929
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: basketball yet like that, Like now, if I can rewind,

930
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: I would have been doing those.

931
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: I would have took away to four hundred to.

932
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: Do long jump and high jump any other sports.

933
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: I was football, football, Yeah, I was. I was. It

934
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 4: was this thing call like just a selfish quarterback.

935
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah right. It was around and then you take off

936
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: and throw.

937
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: It was just yeah and the athlete quarterbacks. It was

938
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: never like passage like you gotta remember this pop water.

939
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: So most of the kids couldn't catch right. So it's

940
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: like just the best athlete, your quarterback and just run right,

941
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: throw to yourself if you could running quarterback that I

942
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: got his helmet knocked off, and I woke up a

943
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: basketball player.

944
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: Smart move money and they tore money less pain.

945
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: They warned me too. It was like, hey, we're playing

946
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: against the Eagles. Do not quarterback sneak. They have a

947
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: hitter over there. You know, you see the little guy

948
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: had a little Filipino black guy.

949
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: What is that?

950
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 1: Who is that young got right under I literally woke

951
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: up in the car as the basketball player.

952
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I quit. This guy name was this Jean.

953
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: Lee and it was it was so funny it was

954
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: his name was His name was Djon Lee. Right, I'm

955
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: a soft I'm a sophomore in high school. I'm fully

956
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: basketball and playing North Hollywood High School. And you know

957
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: they call us first, and they ain't not getting warmed right. First,

958
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: I already see this like this little guy right, he

959
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: looks all about five seven, five eight, putting his head

960
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: on the like hitting the backboard with his head.

961
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 4: Duncan because they abudy like, ooh, so you look like

962
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.

963
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: Right, and then like you know, all you hear is

964
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: they're calling out the starting lineup and the last name

965
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: I heard was man that guard senior guard This Jean

966
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Lee what sean? So you had like walk up to

967
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: him like, hey, uh, did you used to play football?

968
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, did you play for the Eagles?

969
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? How do you know?

970
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: You knocked helmet? All this is before the jump ball.

971
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: This is the conversation. I'm happy scared that could you

972
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: having reflexing?

973
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

974
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah he can w hoop too, yeah, may jump.

975
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah he has a menace, like this is my sport.

976
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: You can't hit me.

977
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: It's fole.

978
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: He leven on him forty on his head. Geez, who

979
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: is his first name?

980
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 5: Jon?

981
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 2: We have to look him up on the show.

982
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: Talk about that game, Yeah, Jackie, let's get into the

983
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 3: game break down these all right, let's go through these.

984
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 7: Suns real Quick sixty one and twenty one. This is

985
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 7: the Mike D'Antoni era. Get into that later. Uh, he

986
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 7: had his brother on the staff whole. Dan D'Antoni might

987
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 7: remember him from uh the Marshall days. He was leading

988
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 7: the Thundering Herd there for a while. Alvin Gentry and

989
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 7: other longtime NBA coaches on his staff. They had big

990
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 7: win streaks this year, a fifteen game win streak which

991
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 7: we'll talk about in a minute, and the seventeen game

992
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 7: or later on All Stars, Steve Nash, Amari Stodermeyers, Sean

993
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 7: Mary and this was Steve Nash. Like at the height

994
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 7: of Steve Nash coming off back to back MVP. They

995
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 7: were bawling and like all d'An tony teams, up tempo,

996
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 7: highest scoring average one to eleven a game, second in

997
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 7: the NBA. Uh, you got names on here. You also

998
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 7: got we talked Sean Marion, we talked Steve Nash, Yatamari,

999
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 7: you got Boris dil Raja Bell like either. There was

1000
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 7: some Sons teams that were kind of considered finals contenders.

1001
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: I would say, do you know what names like stands out?

1002
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: Laying on me?

1003
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 4: Jalen Rose said, I was like, wait, like one and

1004
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: this one.

1005
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 7: He's like the Forrest Gumbap getting points on your head.

1006
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: James Roy, I didn't even know.

1007
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: I didn't even know.

1008
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 7: I look back to when I did like a triple take.

1009
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: How do you sum up these sons in this era?

1010
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: Really they were the they were the ok s that

1011
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: just didn't win the championship. It was a very it

1012
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: was a very hard team to actually.

1013
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: Like Scout like. It's like they had every element right.

1014
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: You're talking about your pure point that had vision out

1015
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: of this world, that wasn't fast but was quick enough

1016
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: where he looked fast can shoot lights out right. People

1017
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: forget that about it when I'm talking about he was

1018
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: lights out shooter.

1019
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: Then you have.

1020
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: The Pick guy who literally was a demon child, right,

1021
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: meaning if he got inside the paint, he was trying

1022
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: to rip the rim off every single time.

1023
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 4: So you have that guy rolling right. So it's not

1024
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 4: this finesse you know, we kinda you know we don't have.

1025
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: We got our an who don't want to get hit

1026
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: and then he wants to roll get a little shot.

1027
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: No, No, you have someone who wants all contact, wants

1028
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: to smoke.

1029
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: You have him, and then you have your three.

1030
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Right, who's Sean Marion right, who's on the weak side,

1031
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: who has probably the second fastest jump I've ever seen

1032
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: or heard.

1033
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: So you have him who can jump dump like you.

1034
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: So he's ducking in the back end.

1035
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: Right.

1036
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: Then you have Rajah Bell who is a defender. He's

1037
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: a two guard but don't do like ISOs, but he's

1038
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: a flat out shooter.

1039
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 4: Right.

1040
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: Then you have Boris di Al who is Steve Nash

1041
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: without the jump shot, but likes the pad like he's that.

1042
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: He's that euro big right.

1043
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: So you have all these elements of guys on one

1044
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: team which was sitting there like, we can't double anybody.

1045
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: We can't go over because you have Amari, you can't

1046
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: go under because he's gonna shoot. It was just a

1047
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: weird makeup that was just perfect for Steve Nash. They

1048
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: were always up tempo and they were just going so

1049
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: obviously they they were in so much shape.

1050
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous, high up tempo. I was just thinking,

1051
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: Seawan Mary's jump.

1052
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: Shot, Yeah, you know, a little did that work?

1053
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: It's insane, just a little flap. It didn't get blocked

1054
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: because he jumped high in everybody anyway, he had a

1055
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: he had a jump shot like he was.

1056
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he jumped.

1057
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: He got off the floor yelling at me for that.

1058
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 4: You gotta jump.

1059
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: It's a jump shot basketball fundamental knowledge.

1060
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: How do you beat a team like this?

1061
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: You need someone who doesn't care about logic at this point.

1062
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: So the backstory here is it's it's the Olympic or

1063
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: it's that feeble team. So Dan Tony and Mashewsky is

1064
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: the coach. So I'm on a team. I'm there's only

1065
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: three of us. There's only three two time All NBA players.

1066
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm one of them is Lebron.

1067
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 4: D Wade and me.

1068
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: Right, So you know I feel I feel comfortable with

1069
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: this is I'm on this team, right. I understood that

1070
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't start. The way the lineup was was like, okay,

1071
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: Chris Paul to probably start, you know what I mean

1072
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: that he's a betterfit for them. I come off the bench.

1073
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm rocketman, right, So I already called coach K told

1074
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: him he listen, you know it's it's it's for the country.

1075
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: I know, I understand. I've I grew up watching the Olympics,

1076
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm willing to do whatever it takes,

1077
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: play defense, whatever you need me.

1078
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 5: To do.

1079
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm that guy.

1080
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: I already talked to him.

1081
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: So you know the problem here was, now if you

1082
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: go to that team, you you point out the starters

1083
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: in like our top seven, which would have been like,

1084
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: let's see Dwight Howard, right, I think Chris Bosh, maybe

1085
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: Chris Bosh, and I think like Joe Johnson. Right, that's

1086
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: on one team, and then I'm left with the other team. Right,

1087
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: the bad news bears in a sentence where or something.

1088
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're scrimmaging.

1089
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: So our practice is so it's like I got Kirk Heinrich,

1090
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: I got my Miller, I got Brad Miller, I have

1091
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: Shane Battier, I have Bruce Bowen, right, I have Antoine Jamerson. Right,

1092
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: that's my team. Right. So if you think about like

1093
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: we're going against Lebron Carmelo d Wade, right, like we

1094
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: can't keep up, right, So.

1095
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 4: It's all me. So they're basically feeding me the ball

1096
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: to wreck shop against them. Right.

1097
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: So now you're talking about I have the ultra green.

1098
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: So to me as a competitor, this would be the

1099
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: best starting five I probably would ever see in my life, right,

1100
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: Like I would never see a group of guys that

1101
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: has to guard me and try to stop me like this.

1102
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: So to me, this was a test of where my

1103
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 4: talent was.

1104
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: Wait, are we on the scrimmage right now?

1105
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: Or we're on the scrimmage, so we're this is practice

1106
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: every day. So the practice every day for me was

1107
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: basically seek out and destroy the rest of the team

1108
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: was like, let's do this, so all picks, all passes, everybody.

1109
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: It was like just feeding the balls like good. So

1110
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: we were actually beating the team. They had to put

1111
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: in rules like if you get a charge just two

1112
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: points in my let's start doing shit like that. It

1113
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: was just the weirdest shit. And I'm like, well, like

1114
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: cause they're like the other teams ain't playing like that.

1115
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: It's like they don't want to shoot.

1116
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: They want to like we're over here celebrating our win,

1117
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: tapping in because the makeup of the team was kind

1118
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: of like it was really heavy and driving and no

1119
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: flat out shooting, right, So we was I remember we

1120
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: was playing at the Army base. We're practice for the

1121
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: Army base and then I'm jumping the highest side we

1122
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: got on army the army shit, but it's really really hot.

1123
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm like Michael Jordan out there, I'm doing dunks I

1124
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: I just had no business doing. And I kind of

1125
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: like pull a little growing and I'm like, oh man,

1126
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: I hope it's not the growin injury that stopped me

1127
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: like two years before. So you know, I go up

1128
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: after I said, hey, you know, I don't know what's

1129
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: something with my growing and I know we're making cuts,

1130
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't want to hold anybody's spot.

1131
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: You know that could make this possible to make this

1132
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: team because I don't know how serious this is. Colangelo

1133
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: looked me dead in my face and said, yeah, you know, yeah,

1134
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: you can go if you want. You know, you were

1135
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: on the bubble anyway. Wait, first of all, I was

1136
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: I was being nice by volunteering that you know, I

1137
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: can sit if you're trying to make it. You were

1138
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: supposed to say, you know what, don't worry about it,

1139
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: just stay a little bit longer, you know.

1140
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 4: But the fact that you agreed with me, that's a problem.

1141
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: And you you know what I mean, You said I'm

1142
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: on a bubble didn't make me turn around the bubble.

1143
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 4: What team is see looking at it? I don't see.

1144
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: I don't see no Kobe t mac Kevin Gartinet on

1145
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: this team, right, Like most of these guys are benchwarmers

1146
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: on their own team, let alone this team, right, I

1147
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: know they're like friends and family discount here. So I

1148
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: literally put like this. It was it was like from

1149
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 1: here going to Vegas. For me, all I kept rewinding

1150
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: was you're on the bubble and I'm just running through

1151
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: like I had eighteen out of the twenty one points

1152
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: here and I'm just like just sitting here just like

1153
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm on a bubble. Oh no, I'm on a bubble, right,

1154
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: That's all I like. The I landed and I was

1155
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: still thinking about what he said. I remember going to

1156
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: Dave mcmanhimon and said because he was my ghostwriter for

1157
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: my blog, and I told him, I said, I said,

1158
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop fifty on Mike D'Antoni Nick McMillan because

1159
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: I can't go back to college to drop sixty or

1160
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: seventy on coach K.

1161
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take it out on this to fuck

1162
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 4: his minions, right.

1163
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: And then also in there, I said, the way the

1164
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: team is playing, the way they have the lineup, they're

1165
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: not going to win gold, right.

1166
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: I said it.

1167
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: And then.

1168
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: It was like a day later and I thought about it.

1169
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: I said, no, I don't want to be that that

1170
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: that that guy, that that antiret. I don't want to

1171
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: be that guy, right, So I called him, I said,

1172
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 1: can you take out They're not going to win gold

1173
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: Park just I don't want to be I don't know,

1174
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with the team, and I

1175
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: don't want to be.

1176
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: And then he took it out. And then I get

1177
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 4: a call like early and he's like, yo, you were right.

1178
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: They lost. I was like ooh.

1179
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1180
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: And so basically what happens is the lead up to

1181
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: this game. So I played the Blazers first, so everybody's

1182
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: in attendance, right, and then everybody so you got the

1183
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: people that I got fifty. Every time I score, they

1184
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: change it changed it. I had a horrible go at it.

1185
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: Let's just say that I airballed the game winner or

1186
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: the game ty in bucket on a floater, right, So

1187
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: I tried. I came in and did a floater and

1188
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: I airballed the floater. I think the tire win the game.

1189
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: So I remember getting killed. Everyone's laughing, talking trash. We

1190
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: played Seattle the next day. I think I scored. I

1191
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: don't think I scored fifty but I know I scored

1192
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: high forties and I hit the game winner there and

1193
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: then left my jersey in the middle of the court.

1194
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: Basically Gilbert was here.

1195
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: Hell, yes, yeah, I did that. I did that against

1196
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 4: them in Oregon.

1197
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 7: So that's so who is this mc millan.

1198
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: McMillan.

1199
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 4: McMillan was Blazers.

1200
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: And then so I failed against the Blazers, but then

1201
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: I made up just what I was supposed to have

1202
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: done the next game against them. So fast forward we

1203
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: I score sixty against Kobe. Then I go down to

1204
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: probably Denver. It's probably Denver because that was the game

1205
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: that when someone asked me you ever felt cheated?

1206
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: I was like.

1207
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: Just one game in my life where I looked at

1208
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: the refs and said, Yo, why are y'all cheating us?

1209
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: Because they just traded everybody. They just traded everybody, so

1210
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: there was no one there. We were supposed to come

1211
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: in steamroll the shit out of them and nothing. I

1212
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: was ten for thirty. I shot thirty shots, no free throws,

1213
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: so they kept me off the free throw line. Just

1214
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: just kept me off the free throw line. Earl Boykins

1215
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: had all the free throws. I'm like, this is crazy.

1216
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: So when someone about donnahe and I was like, I

1217
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: don't know if he was on that game or not,

1218
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: but he ended up being on the guests. Oh, he

1219
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: was on the game, but I didn't think of it,

1220
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: like I never like, I didn't know who he was.

1221
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 4: So then we go down to.

1222
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: We go down Sacramento. Huh, Sacramento was the next game.

1223
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 4: Sacramento was the next game, and then we go down

1224
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 4: to Phoenix.

1225
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be televised. So I remember, I'm in the shooting,

1226
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm in the gym, and Bill Walton comes up to

1227
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: me and it's like, listen, just have a decent game.

1228
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that decent game looks like a miracle.

1229
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: Everybody's expecting you to come out here and perform. I

1230
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: was like, one thing you ain't gotta worry about is

1231
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: what I'm about to.

1232
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 4: Do to them, right right. He was like, oh, good job.

1233
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, I mean, the son we played

1234
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: with the college together, so the rest of the players

1235
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: on my team, they already knew the assignment.

1236
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 4: This ain't you all game. Just say, this ain't your game.

1237
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: This is not even about winning, okay, So let's just

1238
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: let's just chalk this up as just.

1239
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 4: A revenge type of game.

1240
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: So I'm in a layup line, right, and dan Tony

1241
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: did something then that just really triggered it. Just like

1242
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: it's hard, he said, because you're on They're like on

1243
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: the fifteen sixteen game winning street, so they're the hottest

1244
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: team in the league.

1245
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 4: Right.

1246
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: He said, Hey, Renis, you're gonna need more than fifty

1247
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: to beat us, And I said, oh, don't worry about that.

1248
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: That I will have more than fifty to beat you.

1249
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: He had to, so he was he was referring to

1250
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: he had that blog post in his mind.

1251
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone. I mean it's the TV game.

1252
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 4: Everybody was talking about it.

1253
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: So he was like, you're gonna need more than You're

1254
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna need more than fifty to beat us, And I said,

1255
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: don't worry, I got you.

1256
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 3: Which one of So who on the team is like

1257
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: your hype man, there's gotta be one guy like you

1258
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 3: hear him?

1259
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: It was DeShawn h DeShawn, Antonio Daniels, And then they

1260
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: had Deshaun Stevenson shooting guard.

1261
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: You always have one.

1262
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 4: Antony got to have one. He's like, hey, you got him,

1263
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: you got him?

1264
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it.

1265
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 7: So and the big three, The Big Three was cooking

1266
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 7: you Karan James and like leading the league in scoring.

1267
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 4: For a trio.

1268
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 7: There, let's jump into these teams are falling. Man, Holy smokes,

1269
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 7: I think Gill hit a bunch of the lead.

1270
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: Up for us real quick.

1271
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 7: We don't have to talk the Wizard's real quick. Forty

1272
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 7: one season, third year making the playoffs. Kind of all

1273
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 7: those years were kind of around five hundred getting in

1274
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 7: the playoffs. But we talked about some of these these

1275
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 7: awesome names you got, Karen Butler, Gil Brandon, Hayward, Antoine Jamison.

1276
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: This was this was a real fun era of the Wizards.

1277
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

1278
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: It was we We were we were like the East

1279
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: Coast version of them, oh right.

1280
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 1: And one thing that I had over them and which

1281
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: made it like if I was on fire, they were

1282
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: gonna have a hard time guarding me because the point guard,

1283
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: Steve Nash was too small for me. So once I

1284
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: get to going at him, they're gonna have to switch.

1285
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: Which that's the point for me. I want I want

1286
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: the best of my mind was this as an offensive player,

1287
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: I want the best defender guarding me, because the defense

1288
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: is not used to helping the best defender it's always

1289
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: the other way, right, right, the worst offender gets to help.

1290
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: So as long as I have Steve Nash on me,

1291
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Sean Marion over help. And you're gonna

1292
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: have Rajah Bell over help. You're gonna have You're gonna

1293
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: have this this secure blanket. So basically with Steve Nash

1294
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: is more you know, uh, trying to post them up,

1295
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: try to hit like little middies and then eventually they'll switch.

1296
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: Then once they switch, I have Sean Marion on me,

1297
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: which they're not gonna help. Well, unfortunate for him, he's

1298
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: a little sloer, so I have the foot speed, so

1299
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: he kind of gott Yeah, I gotta play this, heasy

1300
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: go get them, make them back up. So I gotta

1301
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: play this this this uh, I call it a snake

1302
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: game with him. Same thing with Roger Bell. You one,

1303
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: you're a little smaller than him, so when I decide

1304
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: to pull up, I can shoot over you. So once

1305
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: I got them too on me, then it's it's a

1306
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: better game for me, just like you know the six

1307
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: against Kobe. Once Kobe's on me, they're not helping, right,

1308
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, they're not helping. There is not designed to

1309
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: help the best defenders.

1310
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: One on one game.

1311
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 7: Gill all day, every day maybe.

1312
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why Luca when he does picks,

1313
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: he wants the better defender.

1314
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, Rudy. Yeah, yeah, no one's helping you.

1315
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: You got four you got four of them things and

1316
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: no one's gonna help you.

1317
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: And he gets the torture.

1318
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: I never thought about that. His eyes like kind of

1319
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: would do something similar on defense.

1320
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 3: Well, that's what Bill would do on defense. He would

1321
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: put his second best corner on the best receiver that

1322
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: he thought was on that team, and he would help

1323
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: them out. And then the best corner is on the

1324
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: the second best guy locked up by yourself. Yeah, no

1325
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: help previous you have him all game, you follow him,

1326
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: other guy follow will have him following the and we'll

1327
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: do the cat and mouse game with him.

1328
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: Everything schemes.

1329
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 7: That like, I mean, it always seemed to work. It's

1330
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 7: Tyreek hilling those guys. Yeah, smokes.

1331
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: What was the plain culture like on this team playing cards?

1332
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: You like.

1333
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 3: The team where we had the locker room incident.

1334
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: No, this wasn't that.

1335
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: So we used to talk about that too, like we

1336
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: we we can't be bringing ship to the fucking facility.

1337
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: Fellas, we're not.

1338
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't get that memo.

1339
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 8: Memo out there, Like, can we get a memo in

1340
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 8: the n b A no, no, no, no one memo

1341
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 8: no see gambling, guns everything.

1342
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 4: Can we eat a memo?

1343
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 6: No?

1344
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: We like, It's just our culture was a little different.

1345
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: So you got to think about has nothing to do

1346
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: with we want to be thugs.

1347
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 4: That's that's it's.

1348
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: We're we have the money and the jewelry, right, so

1349
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: when we go out, right, this is before like like

1350
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: having bodyguard. If you had a bodyguard, he was him

1351
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah right that so even though I was the best

1352
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: player on my team, Like having a bodyguard looks stupid,

1353
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: right because that's only made for Alan Iverson Kobe.

1354
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 4: Shack Like you're not there yet. But you're not there yet, buddy,

1355
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean?

1356
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 3: That is that how you grade on how someone is

1357
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: in the league.

1358
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you, buddy, Like when you when you

1359
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: like and then if you have one, people be like, yeah,

1360
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: he really is fooling himself, right, Like he's not on

1361
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: that level yet.

1362
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 4: Bro, you got to wait a couple more years.

1363
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: So what happens is your own bodyguard is this yes,

1364
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: you you So most people had guns, right, and he

1365
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: usually used the locker room as the safe haven. So

1366
01:06:55,720 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: basically how it traditionally went, you're coming from home, you

1367
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: put it in. You put it in your your locker, right,

1368
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: you put it in your locker, you drive.

1369
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: To the club, have fun at the club. From the club,

1370
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: go to the locker, get it, go home, right, So

1371
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: that's how that's that's how.

1372
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: It really was, you know what I mean a checkpoint.

1373
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: The locker room was the checking point because we can

1374
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: go in when no one's coming out and if we

1375
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: come out where you know. So it was it was

1376
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: really more about that, never really about I'm gonna use

1377
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: it like it's like we're not going to shoot anybody, right,

1378
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: but if we was there just in case anything happened,

1379
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: I got one watch out.

1380
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: Was it was it was It was kind of more

1381
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: of that.

1382
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: So it was it kind of was always there, like

1383
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: our secret phones obviously, you know, money and jewelry. You know, you.

1384
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: Know, what's the most amount of phones you've ever had

1385
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: on a single time?

1386
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: Me, I had this thing called it BlackBerry, and I

1387
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: had BlackBerry Friends, right, which wasn't on a data plan

1388
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: the BBM. Yeah, that's all I need.

1389
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was good right there.

1390
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 7: Forty keyboard bro that was goded back in the day

1391
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 7: all time.

1392
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: So my team wasn't a gambling team, right if you

1393
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: look at the personalities, I'm the highest paid an Twine

1394
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: and then Koran, Right, Koran didn't really gamble and Twine

1395
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: didn't gamble, so it was just me. So who I'm

1396
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: gambling with will be Andre Blotch, one year player, second round,

1397
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: no money, right, Calvin bootha play you're in.

1398
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 3: The house and they just get to have whatever was.

1399
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 3: You know, we were on the plane like we'd go

1400
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 3: we would do it more, not on team planes, but

1401
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 3: when we go to the derby and ship, you could

1402
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 3: bet as much as you want against Tom.

1403
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: He was just a house. Oh yeah, no, no, no, yeah,

1404
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: we're not doing like just the games was.

1405
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 3: Just there like ten bucks, all right, we got a

1406
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: bit of am bet ten dollars ten dollar.

1407
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 4: Brooke boy Brook boy boy.

1408
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: But that's how it exactly was. It's like you're just

1409
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: playing to just you know, pass the time. So you know,

1410
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: most of our games was based off on these contracts, right,

1411
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about four undred thousandll so we're not a

1412
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: big money game, Like we're not the ones that they're

1413
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: trying to win your win houses and win car notes.

1414
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: Tell no, Like we didn't have that kind of contract.

1415
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: So our argument was over literally eleven hundred dollars.

1416
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: Now they weren't the highest paid. But to all the

1417
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 3: players you played with, who's the greatest player you played with?

1418
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 4: The greatest?

1419
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: I would say Antoine Jamerson because we played years seeing

1420
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: him make All Stars and stuff, like I did play

1421
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: with Dawhight Howard, but it's for that half a season,

1422
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: and it's that half a season. Then I think he

1423
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: heard he ended up hurting his back and but we

1424
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: finished the season. But it is the White, by the

1425
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: name and by the skill set he was he was

1426
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: turning into.

1427
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 4: But you know, just for years it was Antwine Jameson.

1428
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: I like that.

1429
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 4: I like that.

1430
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 2: That's a great answer.

1431
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: He yes, like Dwhite, like I seen a monster that

1432
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: was coming. Like he if he never got hurt, he

1433
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: was gonna be an MVP hands down. Like I remember

1434
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: we're playing we're playing Miami. We're down I think eighteen

1435
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: and a half and everybody's going back and forth, and

1436
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: he was like, listen, it's not that hard. Turk Uguard.

1437
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade let him through. I said, I'm gonna hit

1438
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: him so hard he will he will just take jumpers

1439
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: the rest of the night, and then Lebron is gonna

1440
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: take jumpers the rest of the night. They're not gonna

1441
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 1: come in here anymore. So then you can play aggressive

1442
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: as you want and we're gonna win. This game opened

1443
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: the door. Dwayne tried to come in, hit a wall boom,

1444
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Sure enough, all jump shots. We end up coming back

1445
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: and winning.

1446
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 2: Damn.

1447
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: They were afraid, like people like they were afraid of

1448
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: the white because he was so physical and he was

1449
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 1: so athletic, so he had both elements like you like,

1450
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: it wasn't just he was just athletic and he was physical,

1451
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: so he.

1452
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 4: Wanted to hurt people.

1453
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: Played the size like we used to Malik Malika. What

1454
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: was his name, Malik something, Malik Rose.

1455
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 4: We had a Malik on our team.

1456
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: Neighbors, it was something.

1457
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: We had a Malik something in Orlando, and you know

1458
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: the mom what's the name blocks, it's plate blocks. Yeah,

1459
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: he had to tape the pilates block on his chest

1460
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: every practice, so they'll tape the plate's block because when

1461
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: he spunk, when Dwight spun, he elbowed, and he said

1462
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: every time before he was getting hurt to the point

1463
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: where he couldn't breathe, and it was just so they

1464
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 1: put they put the block there.

1465
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 7: And all, oh, man, I don't even know him.

1466
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 4: Yeah he's the Oh my god. He used to hate it,

1467
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 4: like he just hated being on that that second year

1468
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 4: of the team. Guard getting out of.

1469
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 7: Villanova was yeah, you don't get paid enough of this. Coincidentally,

1470
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 7: that was his last year in the NBA.

1471
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, guy.

1472
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 3: Good, we'll be right back after this quick break, Jackie.

1473
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild.

1474
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 4: All right.

1475
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 7: We hit a bunch of lead up stuff here. It's

1476
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 7: worth noting Phoenix was snowed in in Denver prior to

1477
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 7: this for two days. Got into town day of the game,

1478
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 7: came there.

1479
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: He had built.

1480
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 4: Don't worry.

1481
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: It was some heat ready for That's right, baby, And

1482
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: that was about to you guys just had a back

1483
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: to back.

1484
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: Dude, this is the second.

1485
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it might be Christmas time and Gil wasn't

1486
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 7: given out presents. He was giving out buckets. Yeah, baby,

1487
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 7: coming into this one fifteen in a row for the Suns.

1488
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 7: We talked about that nine to twelve though, whiz that

1489
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 7: doesn't get talked about enough.

1490
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: They're on fire.

1491
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 7: It was an awesome West Coast road streak or world trip,

1492
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 7: I should say. Gil talked about that a little bit

1493
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 7: getting this thing going.

1494
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: Early.

1495
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 7: Phoenix did get out to a double digit lead, but

1496
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 7: the Wizard's answer with a twenty to seven run got

1497
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 7: up eleven there at the end of the first pushed

1498
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 7: that lead out to eighteen.

1499
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 2: In the second. Gil was hooping, balling, filling it up.

1500
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 7: Had an awesome buzzer beat at the end of that

1501
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 7: first quarter, pulled up from forty from the logo there,

1502
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 7: which is just which.

1503
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: Is like a regular shot. No I know, but that

1504
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: was one of those shots. It was crazy.

1505
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 7: It's like, ah shit, Gil's about to be on it tonight.

1506
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 7: He's about to be on this thing tonight.

1507
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 3: Gilly, when'd you know I'm in the zone.

1508
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 4: In this game or in this game?

1509
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 6: Oh now, as soon as soon as I seen it

1510
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 6: on a schedule, as soon as you as soon as

1511
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 6: I see it on the schedule.

1512
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: It was just marketing.

1513
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: It was just you know, there's just some guys that

1514
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 4: just bring it out of you.

1515
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: And I think if you asked Steven Ash who changed

1516
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: your game and made you score. If you ever look

1517
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: at our games, because I scored so much, he was

1518
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: forced to match the energy. Right, I was not gonna

1519
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: allow him to have those seventeen points because I'm gonna

1520
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: come at you so much that you're forced to say no,

1521
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm fighting back. So I got to see the best

1522
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: of his scoring. Like I used to play double, and

1523
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: it's double. It's double. Like I don't play deeper. It's

1524
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: like that's double.

1525
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 4: Like just trap them. I don't care if Marito has

1526
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 4: fifty seven. That's not my problem. I got this is

1527
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 4: my guy.

1528
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 11: I don't want him having forty two forty two. It

1529
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 11: was because he was taking some shots. We're like, that

1530
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 11: doesn't look like a typical Steve nashot. I mean he

1531
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 11: was hitting though efficient tonight. Yeah, Steve went freaking fourteen

1532
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 11: of twenty five, seven of fifteen from three.

1533
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: Who are you talking to on the court?

1534
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 4: Everyone?

1535
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 2: Everyone?

1536
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well I was names or everyone got n nicknames.

1537
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: So I used to just like I don't know if

1538
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: it's like that in football, but sometimes just noises and

1539
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: sounds and ad libs.

1540
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, people hate that. I don't know why.

1541
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: Literally you literally hate that and It's just weird how

1542
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: a defensive player.

1543
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 4: Hates little things like how about you? Like what is

1544
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 4: that rain drops?

1545
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: Like I can't feel my face like this, just like

1546
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: it gets under their skin, Like I said, will Farrell

1547
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: ass ship.

1548
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: Right like so I was like, I know Steph irritates

1549
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: him like that little stuff. Oh my god, a defender

1550
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: they do not like stuff like that. No, they like

1551
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: they want you to score on them with class. It

1552
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: would be classy and scorings.

1553
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 7: Are the coolest man.

1554
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: Now, when you're in this game, are you keeping an

1555
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 3: eye on your score line?

1556
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 8: No?

1557
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: No, just feeling it?

1558
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 4: No, I got teammates to do that for me.

1559
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 7: Are you like a guy thrown hit or where you

1560
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 7: don't want to know where? If they tell you, you're listening.

1561
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: Most of the Like if you start off a game right,

1562
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,839
Speaker 1: it's it's like you have like this this whereabout counts?

1563
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 4: Right?

1564
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: Got by eight of them?

1565
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 4: At some point you know you you scoring?

1566
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: You don't You don't remember then, Like once you see

1567
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: a player like look up, like when he's on defense,

1568
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: he'll look up.

1569
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 4: He's looking to see what he has.

1570
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: But sometimes you be in a zone and your teammates

1571
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: will be like.

1572
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 4: Yo, wal more rebou trauble double.

1573
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: But like so you you hear things like that your

1574
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: teammates to let you let you know that you're close

1575
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: to something.

1576
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 3: Now it's getting epic duel with Nash. You guys are battling.

1577
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 3: Are we over there giving looks or sounds to Dan

1578
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 3: d'An TONI.

1579
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, but yeah, like the King Kong Chess like

1580
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: I did the King Kong Chess and stuff like that.

1581
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: But it wasn't there like I wasn't you know, because

1582
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't because it wasn't about him, like

1583
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: he he didn't do anything right. It's just that I'm

1584
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: just using him as the fuel to it, and because

1585
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 1: he played into it and acknowledged like you're gonna need

1586
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: more than It was just one of those things where

1587
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: it was like you got my juices going.

1588
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 3: Now they you guys get up on them in the

1589
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: fourth right, and then they come back, they come back.

1590
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 4: And they had it, they had a chance to win.

1591
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 4: They missed it.

1592
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: So we we locked out.

1593
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 4: We we lucked out.

1594
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: Like it was really for a team who is as

1595
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: good as them, they put themselves in a great position

1596
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: to win the game.

1597
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 4: They had they had a chance.

1598
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: Tossed a couple of those buckets.

1599
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 7: Then that we locked out. We we locked out for sure.

1600
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 7: That in one though tie it up was you Mary

1601
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 7: huge finishing at the.

1602
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: Baby and y'all gotta remember that was the ball that

1603
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: the NBA gave us for replacing the leather different color ball, No,

1604
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: it was a different feel. So it was more like

1605
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: that college feel sticky. So with me, I understood how

1606
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: to use that ball. How right, So like there's like

1607
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: dead spots, right and some ball like that. So like

1608
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: a ball like that, no matter if it's wet, if

1609
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: you throw it up on a backboard, it don't have

1610
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: that ping ping right, it has that more soft dropping right,

1611
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: So a lot of bank shots, a lot of hitting

1612
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: around the rim, right, So as long as you get

1613
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: it towards that area it had that, it has a

1614
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: chance of winning. So how I had the angle, I

1615
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: know my spin versus the leather ball where you have

1616
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: to overspin it so it sticks on the rim then

1617
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: goes if you try to spin that when it was

1618
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: now you know it's like bowling ball, right, It's like

1619
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: this ball was more of the it's a dry lane,

1620
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: so if you over if you overspin, its gutter versus

1621
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: the wet wind.

1622
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 4: If you get spin it a lot of it go

1623
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 4: all the way and then.

1624
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 3: Avery nasty of bowling. I used to be very it

1625
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 3: was like my thing, are you golfer two? I just

1626
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 3: I just started and you're pretty good. I'm trash, yeah,

1627
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 3: but you'll learn it.

1628
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 4: Look good though.

1629
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: Such a you guys that is that is a skill

1630
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 3: like that, Like I'm that's gonna be the same as that.

1631
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's all the same like with with golfing.

1632
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: It's more time I'm on task.

1633
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: Think of it like okay, okay, sit go, keep your

1634
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: head down, pour out the way, like I gotta really

1635
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: like do all these check points to make sure if

1636
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 1: I'm just out of about.

1637
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: When you're stop six years old, you're doing the same

1638
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 3: off hand six you know what I mean, you're just

1639
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 3: six years old in the golf game.

1640
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: But I'm good, But I just you know, I go

1641
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: out there. I'm the best trash talker of course. Right,

1642
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna entertain, I'm gonna get drunk. Right,

1643
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna win. I'm gonna try to cheat.

1644
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,560
Speaker 4: We gotta golf, we gotta. I'm one of those like

1645
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 4: you really have to watch it, like you really have

1646
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 4: to watch me. I redrop ball, so I always keep.

1647
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 7: To balls in my pocket smart right away so I

1648
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 7: know you're not looking like, oh yeah, right, use.

1649
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 4: The old foot wedge down there.

1650
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1651
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 4: We gotta golf.

1652
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 7: We love golfing on the off days. Man, you gotta

1653
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 7: come with us.

1654
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 2: You gotta get you.

1655
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: Oh, I do the whole throw like like I'm in

1656
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: a sand and you're not like looking. I'll literally throw

1657
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 1: my ball and then like throw the thing. Oh shit,

1658
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: who's your hair?

1659
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: Scoring bowling?

1660
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 4: Two seventy seven?

1661
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: It is my highest two seventy seven, not too shabby.

1662
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 3: Who is a mookie? MOOKI at three hundred? Oh yeah,

1663
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 3: that's yok bowling or ball?

1664
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1665
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: Are you guys going to overtime twenty seven?

1666
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 4: All right?

1667
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 3: Are we sitting there thinking how many points you have

1668
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 3: until you when you're in overtime?

1669
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: Well, I was in the thirties. You'll pass the fifty

1670
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: in the forties, what like, yeah, forty something in the

1671
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: forty eight.

1672
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 7: So in regulation ten in the fourth, fourteen in the third,

1673
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 7: there's twenty four, yeah, twenty four and twenty four each

1674
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 7: half or forty eight, so you have forty eight racing

1675
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 7: consistent with it.

1676
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 4: Yes, oh yes. So going in overtime, I was actually like, yeah,

1677
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 4: over time it because I get to break that fifty. Yeah,

1678
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 4: because that was a thing.

1679
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: So there was this like Antoine Antoine Jamison had, you know,

1680
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: he had back to back fifties when we was a

1681
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: Gold State, when I was like a rookie. So there

1682
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: was this there was this thing that I'm scared of fifty,

1683
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: So I'm scared of fifty. So he was like, every

1684
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: time you get close to the fifty, you can't get

1685
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: the fifty. So when I had sixty, it didn't count

1686
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: because it wasn't fifty. It wasn't fifty.

1687
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 4: So I was like, yeah, I did it. It's like, no,

1688
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 4: you didn't have fifty. Where's your fifty at I was like,

1689
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 4: I got sixty, that's not fifty.

1690
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: Fifty is fifty.

1691
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 4: And I was like what the fuck? So this game right?

1692
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 4: And he was like, so we went overtime, Okay, I

1693
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 4: gotta get to more.

1694
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 3: So you you hit fifty fifty, I know you hit

1695
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 3: hit he had fifty four, but when you hit fifty,

1696
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 3: did you?

1697
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 4: I was, oh my god, that monkey is on in

1698
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 4: my back? Did you look at him. No, I mean

1699
01:21:55,720 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 4: it was more than Antoine. I like, because I can

1700
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 4: tell you this, that is.

1701
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: The most stressful when you're trying, when you when you

1702
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: play so freely and you get into a number where

1703
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: you have your eye on and you're like, that's when

1704
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: you mess.

1705
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 4: Up the most. Like Luca.

1706
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: If you see in the Luca game, and he know

1707
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: he needed two more points, miss a easy shot, miss

1708
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: this layer, miss this free throw. That's what ends up

1709
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: happening on the road to fifty because you're pressing for

1710
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: it crazy.

1711
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 4: So I knew I had five four.

1712
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: Minutes to get the two points and you got it. Yeah,

1713
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: I got it, and you get fifty four and you

1714
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: guys win and we win. That's always the best, and

1715
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: we win because someone like me, it's the goal. First,

1716
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: then we won. When I scored sixty, I was.

1717
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 4: Like, I just scored sixty on Kobe Bryant. The coach

1718
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 4: was like, and we want to I just scored sixty

1719
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 4: on what That is the win? That's history.

1720
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 7: Oh scores fifty four banks in the game, icing three.

1721
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 3: Yep, icing three, right, has sixty the same week before,

1722
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 3: has a forty burger as well.

1723
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: Give us the aftermath in the aftermath.

1724
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 7: I hate to report this, but Gil terrors and meniscus

1725
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 7: late in the year would miss the rest of this one.

1726
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 4: That's the same year.

1727
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, later in this year, I believe that was you

1728
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 7: missed the playoffs. Yeah, I think right again, got swept

1729
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 7: by Lebron.

1730
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but okay, you're missing something though, where I

1731
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: had fifty one after this?

1732
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: Oh bad? That was the infamous turnaround three where I

1733
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: turned around on Utah. Oh yeah, it was like right

1734
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: after January fifteenth.

1735
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you went fifty Burger a few.

1736
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 2: Times this year.

1737
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on. I was on.

1738
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: So now think about so the year before this, this

1739
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: is where I got tapped by Lebron.

1740
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 4: And missed the free throws to win the game. That was. Yeah,

1741
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 4: that was the playoffs the year before.

1742
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 1: So this year that terror came came the following year

1743
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: where I was hitting all my game winners, hitting all

1744
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: my ind the game shots, right fifty sixty to fifty four.

1745
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: That was.

1746
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 4: That was the next year.

1747
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 3: Who's a joker?

1748
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: Li Old?

1749
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 7: Just like thirty five bucks? You were the landlord that game.

1750
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he got a new landlord. Now, yeah,

1751
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 4: I mean you have another landlord because that's.

1752
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 7: Uh Yeah, that was Damon Jones, that same Jones I

1753
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 7: was getting. I was getting him getting Larry Hughes confused, Sorry,

1754
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 7: that was Larry.

1755
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 4: He helped me money too.

1756
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 3: So was it better dropping fifty four or shutting up

1757
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 3: d'An tony? Did you see him after the game?

1758
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 6: No?

1759
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 7: Seen him since?

1760
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 8: No?

1761
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: Nice.

1762
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: I think scoring the fifty four on Dan Tony on

1763
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: the team, that was all of it. It was just

1764
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 1: a perfect It was perfect for me. They're on the

1765
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: fifteen game winning streak. Nobody can beat him. You know,

1766
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 1: Rambo two is coming through.

1767
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 2: Rambo.

1768
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: He don't supposed to win, but she you know, Rainbow

1769
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Two's coming in, gets the wind and then goes on

1770
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: and they can.

1771
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 4: Then they I think they go back on the streak.

1772
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're keeping score at home, fifty four is

1773
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: more than fifty. So in Washington beat Phoenix.

1774
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 1: And I own I still own the most points as

1775
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 1: an opponent on that court. So I think I still

1776
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: own three records on courts as an opponent for the

1777
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,480
Speaker 1: Lakers Staple Center, an opponent.

1778
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 4: Here, and then.

1779
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: Wizard fifty one tied it. Now, this is hilarious. Bradley

1780
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: Built had fifty one and it was like nine minutes

1781
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: left and he didn't score anymore. Wow wow.

1782
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 4: And me I was like, because I'm a brad you know,

1783
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 4: I'm Bradley Built fan. Just not that day.

1784
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 2: He got the fifty one and I'm oh my god, no,

1785
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: miss miss miss miss miss miss.

1786
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we survived.

1787
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: I love high score in the stadium. It's a fun one.

1788
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 2: That's fun. You played a lot at Rising Center. Obviously

1789
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 2: it's your home court. It's in Chinatown and Washington, d C.

1790
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 2: What's the best like Chinese food in that area?

1791
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

1792
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: Never never, I was so routine. When I got there,

1793
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: it was like ghost town, right, there was new construction

1794
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: and no stores really, so the way I went was

1795
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: always like the back entrance, so back entrance three four

1796
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 1: years back. They're just never veered off, same way, never changed, right.

1797
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: And then when I got hurt, uh this so this'd

1798
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: been like eight oh nine President Obama get hit by

1799
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: the convoy, right, so I have to go different way.

1800
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 4: I literally didn't know what was going.

1801
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 1: On, Like I'm sitting here, like he happened here, Like

1802
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: what this is downtown? This isn't a made They got

1803
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: a movie theater, they got stores, like so they built

1804
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: it up, and I never because I never went through

1805
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: the front that street. I never knew that it was

1806
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: just this beautiful place.

1807
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 7: Now this game, you'll finish third and scoring this season. Wow,

1808
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 7: right behind Kobe and Lebron.

1809
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 1: So after getting hurt and missing, I think I almost

1810
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: set a record here too.

1811
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 4: I think it was.

1812
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 1: So it is seven, right, it's six seven, Yeah, so

1813
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: there's a So the record was three pointers and free throws.

1814
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 4: It was the most.

1815
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: Threes made in the season, like two o five with

1816
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: a certain amount of free throw So I was the

1817
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: only person in NBA.

1818
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 4: History to do it.

1819
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: Where'd you get this stunt? When James Harden did it,

1820
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: he became the second person seven years later.

1821
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 3: I want to know your stat guy, you got good stats,

1822
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: Like it was.

1823
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: Just something that came up. So basically, if he was

1824
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: a three point shooter, he was a three point shooter.

1825
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: When he was a free throw merchant, he was a

1826
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: free throw merchant. And I was the first person to

1827
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: do both at the same time.

1828
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was two five two and five

1829
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 7: made three pointers that year, so.

1830
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: Tied with Rajah Bell really and then how many? How

1831
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: many free throws?

1832
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: And then free throws?

1833
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 1: It looks like, yeah, because there was something where I

1834
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: could have been number one and free throws, taking May,

1835
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: three pointers, taking may.

1836
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 4: Something like that.

1837
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 2: What's does stuff have those now?

1838
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: Or no?

1839
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 8: Is he not? No?

1840
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 4: You won't have free throws?

1841
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1842
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: No.

1843
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 7: In two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, it

1844
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 7: said right behind Kobe average eight point seven free throw

1845
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 7: makes a game, you averaged eight point two.

1846
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, according to stat muse here.

1847
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, so how many? But what was the total of it?

1848
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 7: I'm seeing seven to eighteen. That seems a little high.

1849
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 2: No, I mean, jee, that's what that's what's coming back

1850
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: right now.

1851
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 3: Well, let's let's name the game, jack, you find that

1852
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 3: stat more of the game. Is this the greatest game

1853
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: of all time? Let's score decimals encourage. We came up

1854
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 3: with these names. If you have a specific name for

1855
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 3: this game, let us know. We had the fifty four piece.

1856
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 3: We had Steve vers Gil. We had the Duel in

1857
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:53,799
Speaker 3: the Desert. We had Suck It, Suck It d'An toni.

1858
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 3: We had Halbachi Knight.

1859
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 2: I think we went with the speed limit game. Last

1860
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 2: game that was Gil sixty pieces off the top. That one.

1861
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: It was really that was the Massacre in the desert.

1862
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: It's more like massacre in the desert because I came

1863
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: in they knew. The best part is they knew I

1864
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: was coming. That's that's that's what makes it. You know

1865
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm coming, and you got to stop me from doing

1866
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, and you.

1867
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 3: Still got the massacre in the desert.

1868
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 4: I love it.

1869
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:28,440
Speaker 3: Let's score it is this the greatest game of all time. Decimals, encourage,

1870
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 3: stakes of this regular regular season game, but a lot

1871
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 3: of back history game zero to ten decimals and courage.

1872
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 4: Fifteen game win. You gotta put that up there.

1873
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely the stakes of this game.

1874
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 1: The game wise, it was more of a three. Okay,

1875
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: was we were just supposed to be just another loss.

1876
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but for me it was the ten for me.

1877
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 3: For youse to ten for me as the ten for me,

1878
01:29:56,160 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 3: it's a five point one just because I mean we've

1879
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 3: done Super Bowls, World Cups.

1880
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 2: I know it's tough.

1881
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 7: You know, I had a three point two regular season game.

1882
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, I was hating the two point

1883
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: zero said three.

1884
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like that's what said we were we

1885
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 6: already scheduled this loss, right like you know you're going

1886
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 6: to West Coast trip, and it's like we're going to

1887
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 6: lose against the Lake, you know this and this and

1888
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 6: so it was.

1889
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 4: It was a scheduled loss. Yeah.

1890
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 3: So the star power of this game zero to ten

1891
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 3: decimals encouraged star power star power one you just one zero,

1892
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: So zero to ten, how do you grade the star

1893
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 3: power one A one?

1894
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1895
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: Just it's just I'm just I was the only star

1896
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: on the on the court. But I can say Mari was.

1897
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: Mari was getting into the like the star power. Like

1898
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 1: Steve Nash wasn't a star, right, He's an all star,

1899
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: but he was like when you're talking about.

1900
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 2: That next level, no bodyguard for you know what I mean?

1901
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 4: Body guard right, nobody, nobody, you know.

1902
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: So I was you know, you know, I wish you know,

1903
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 2: I got a signature shoe.

1904
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think they.

1905
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: Was.

1906
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 4: They was team guys. You know, you got all team

1907
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 4: Nike guys.

1908
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 2: I like that put up one point zero.

1909
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 3: At one point zero, you know, I'm gonna go seven

1910
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 3: point two.

1911
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: There were six other stars in that, but it was

1912
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 1: someone in the stand.

1913
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 4: I mean, were there in the stands there.

1914
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: I think I saw Rihanna on the stand. Somebody to

1915
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 2: show up that I didn't know wh what's the name

1916
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: of the gorilla they have? Oh yeah their mascot. Yeah

1917
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 2: he's a star man.

1918
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1919
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 2: So at some point seven.

1920
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 3: Now the game player of this game. Overtime was an

1921
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 3: electric game back and forth.

1922
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 4: This is ten ten for me.

1923
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 3: For me, I love an overtime game. I'm gonna go

1924
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 3: gameplay eight point four. We're all at eight point six,

1925
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 3: eight point one. The name of the game, and we

1926
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 3: score the name of the game, the Massacre in the Desert.

1927
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 3: Also the cultural cultural impact. Everyone knew about this game, yea,

1928
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 3: because we all knew the beef. Where's the beef?

1929
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 1: Where's the beef? We gotta give it a nine nine okay.

1930
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 3: Flat nine nine point zero. For me, I want to

1931
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 3: go with the eight point two.

1932
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 2: Okay, a little high. What are you talking about?

1933
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: High?

1934
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 2: Seven point why massacres? Like you could do like mad

1935
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 2: libs with Massacre in the Desert?

1936
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: What?

1937
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 4: What a what a beat down in the.

1938
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: What's score? And what is the match in the in

1939
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: the on the list? So it is a six point

1940
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 2: five nine that puts us I think it's gonna put

1941
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 2: us in our second page. Six point five nine is

1942
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 2: tied for our ninety fifth game with Arrowhead Awakening two

1943
01:32:56,360 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 2: thousand and three, Week one, Lions versus Chief Chiefs right here,

1944
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 2: which was.

1945
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 3: Argued that started the Lions to be the Lions.

1946
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they beat they beat the Chiefs to start

1947
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 2: the season. It's just below Miracle and Morgantown with Mike

1948
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 2: Vick today nine week two against West Virginia and just

1949
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 2: ahead of out the Club game twenty fourteen, Week eleven,

1950
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: Patriots versus Colts where Gronk just blocks someone into oblivion.

1951
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 2: Rams versus Niners. Who's that with? Week two? Was that

1952
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 2: pooka pooka naku was pooka?

1953
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? Nice?

1954
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 2: He bawled out. So your other game because you you

1955
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 2: were on the show remotely years ago and we scored

1956
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 2: your game. Where is that one o three one o

1957
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 2: three right here? Your sixty point game? Nice?

1958
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 4: How is that is?

1959
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 8: That? Was?

1960
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: That was a great game because cold cold like put

1961
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 1: the team on his back at the end to get

1962
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 1: it to overtime. I had the game winner to make it,

1963
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: and I had the last shot and and I backed

1964
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: them up, but for some reason, I faded for no.

1965
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: I faded back like like you can block it, and

1966
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: then I kind of left it short for me to

1967
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: score sixteen points, break a record, you know, and over time,

1968
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: hell yeah, not bad, set a record floor.

1969
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 4: So it was just meant, what a.

1970
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 3: Fucking game with this fifty four burger on dan TONI

1971
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:25,799
Speaker 3: because of the beef.

1972
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 4: Tell your friends about me.

1973
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 3: Tell them they have to know. Now they know about it.

1974
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 3: Now till coach K what I did to you?

1975
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 2: Did we miss anything from this game?

1976
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: No? I mean, you know, but one, it was a

1977
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: better game for me because I played in Arizona so

1978
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: favorite too, So it was like it was really like

1979
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: a home crowd for me.

1980
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 2: It's a home crowd for Gilly.

1981
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: Everyone got to go check out the Gilber Arena show

1982
01:34:55,160 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 3: Gill's Arena battle Mode, the arena Gridiron And are.

1983
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 2: You twitching now?

1984
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 4: Yeah? Twitch?

1985
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: No chill, gil No, chill?

1986
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 2: What are you playing?

1987
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 4: NBA two? K Madden? And are you good on the

1988
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 4: dude in? You get him in four plays?

1989
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 2: That's all you need?

1990
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 4: Have you stop those four? I'm done?

1991
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 2: Who are you playing with? So? I'm a Rams fan fanatic,

1992
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 2: but I play with the Ravens. I'm smart.

1993
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 3: So you're a Lamart guy? You run around Lamar No? No, no, yeah,

1994
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 3: you never run see all the little kids on the

1995
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 3: twitches with just running get the day, bro.

1996
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: I never I never run because I just assume everyone's

1997
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 1: going to have a run defense for him, So I

1998
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: never use it. I just need it just in case,

1999
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 1: like I got to get out of the pocket because

2000
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: they're blitzing.

2001
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 4: That's it.

2002
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: But I never run because as soon as I get

2003
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: hit as the fumble right, so I just use I

2004
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: just use him just to move left and right.

2005
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 3: Any FIFA people tell me that I need to play

2006
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: that game, that's the only I started playing FIFA like

2007
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 3: ten years ago, didn't know soccer anything. Now if I'm addicted,

2008
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 3: it's it's fucking awesome. It's like it's like, I guess

2009
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 3: it's kind of like, what are the people that play

2010
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 3: the hockey game?

2011
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 4: Oh?

2012
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 2: NHL? Y?

2013
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2014
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 4: Do you ever play that?

2015
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 2: I used to when I was growing up, Gretsky ninety

2016
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: five and like that.

2017
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 4: Was that was it.

2018
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 3: I used to love what was NBA jams talk for me?

2019
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 3: That was my and I played a little two K

2020
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 3: back in the day. But I just played fee from

2021
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 3: in Call of Duty a little.

2022
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 1: Bit here and there. What's so funny, it's it keeps

2023
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 1: you young.

2024
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 3: It does because you talk to all these twelve year

2025
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 3: olds that are like sweaty little sweating talking trash.

2026
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 1: It makes you, it makes you sound twelve too, like

2027
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: it's just but but what it does is like when

2028
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm streaming gaming that my energy itself feels young, feels young, goals,

2029
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,719
Speaker 1: it goes right, and it's like I see like only gaming,

2030
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: Like as soon as I get in there.

2031
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 3: Is like childlike and I was like, you just want

2032
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 3: to be your inner kids.

2033
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 4: As soon as I'm like, I can jump up and

2034
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 4: do all this stuff. And then when it stream is over,

2035
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 4: the oh my god.

2036
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, you and you and Neon gotta link keep linking up.

2037
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 8: Men.

2038
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:05,959
Speaker 7: Those clips are all stric.

2039
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: One thing I knew. I was like, I know he's

2040
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 1: a troll. Everything is like, there's not he doesn't want No,

2041
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: he's not trolling, just so because I mastered and I

2042
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: understood it.

2043
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 4: I knew the assignment.

2044
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 2: Yep, that's the Internet. Yes, but I got in trouble.

2045
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 7: He's learning from the master though. Gill is the master troll.

2046
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 1: I got in trouble. You know, Yeah, ain't trouble my wife,

2047
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, you know I like to my wife

2048
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: ten times a day.

2049
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 4: You know, you do like no it's just frustration. No,

2050
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 4: you really believe that, like no, no, no, from the stream,

2051
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 4: like it's getting clicker out on the stream.

2052
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 3: My gosh, Gilly, thank you so much for coming on, bro.

2053
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 4: I appreciate your thanks for having me.

2054
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this quick break. Wow, that

2055
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 3: was an awesome episode, hit U.

2056
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 2: He does have some chill though. He's got a little chill.

2057
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 4: Know he's.

2058
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 2: What do you mean his nicknames? Well, no, chill, Gill

2059
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 2: is his instant.

2060
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 3: No, he's definitely got he's chill. He's chilling his own way.

2061
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 3: Gil came in here with the Van Cleef and the

2062
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 3: Kashmere came in. Was there's little stars on the I

2063
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 3: think there were stars on the sweater.

2064
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 7: Oh within the kind of the big hounds too. Yeah,

2065
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 7: I think it was it a star. I didn't get

2066
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 7: a great enough look at it.

2067
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,640
Speaker 3: What he gets some fun insight. Gil does not miss,

2068
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 3: he doesn't. He's made for this.

2069
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 4: I was dead. I want Gill a golf.

2070
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 2: Course with us.

2071
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 7: I don't care if he's foot wedging and what he's

2072
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 7: or what he's doing out there. I want Gill out

2073
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 7: there with us. He's a guy you went here for.

2074
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 3: Some he there would be some fun stories. Oh my god,

2075
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Dying, what an awesome episode Dying. When

2076
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 3: he said that he wants to be locked in the

2077
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 3: porn What great guy, the porn pa. He was looking

2078
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 3: at me to see if I would going there. I

2079
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not jumping in, but he's like, that's

2080
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 3: dog Yeah. Night of the Museum can be down the

2081
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 3: BBW wing. Oh my god, god, you know he's really

2082
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 3: great for sports media's Yes, well we need more of that.

2083
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 3: We need more, we need more Gill. You know he's unchilled.

2084
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 3: He's the no chill Gill. Well, it's time to get

2085
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 3: chilled perfect because it's Chill Zone brought to Backslight, get

2086
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 3: Coreslight delivered straight to your door, visits Coreslight dot com,

2087
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 3: slash g w N and always, I mean always celebrate responsibly.

2088
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 2: Jackie. Oh my goodness.

2089
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 7: Since Gil is not only silly and crazy and a

2090
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 7: bucket getter, he's also a great nickname guy, Agent zero

2091
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 7: A zero. With that being said, we figured it was

2092
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 7: time to dust off the old starting five segment and

2093
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 7: today we're gonna do starting five all time sports nicknames.

2094
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, back to Agent zero, So fired up?

2095
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 4: Did he?

2096
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 2: Is?

2097
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,839
Speaker 3: He the first zero because now it's in the NFL.

2098
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 3: Zeros are now in the NFL. He's definitely in early

2099
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 3: Matt Golden or Matthew was golden.

2100
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 7: Early zero Double zero was popping before that, you had

2101
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 7: Robert Parrish was double zero.

2102
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 3: Let me look about agent zero. But like now zero

2103
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 3: is in?

2104
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, is he a swaggy cornerback wearing zero.

2105
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 3: He used to be if you're zero, you're no hero,

2106
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:32,879
Speaker 3: I know. But now because the Agent zero.

2107
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 4: You can be a hero. This is true.

2108
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, now you got the Russell Westbrooks, he

2109
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 7: got the Dame Lillard. It's interesting. That is an interesting

2110
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 7: one to uh.

2111
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 3: Jim Auto, Jim Auto double he was double zero, Right,

2112
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 3: this is a good one.

2113
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the list.

2114
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a fun one. I'm very fired up

2115
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 7: for this.

2116
01:40:56,200 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 2: All right, who's going first? Starting for is we are

2117
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 2: essentially drafting each of our top five of this thing.

2118
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 7: I love nicknames so freaking much. I would say, what

2119
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 7: separates us from the beasts. It's like fire the I mean,

2120
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 7: as far as invenors go, the adventure of fire, the

2121
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 7: assembly line, and the ability to give nicknames. Maybe those

2122
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 7: are the top three. I mean, we just don't know

2123
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,679
Speaker 7: the other language nicknames. I love nicknames and like international nicknames,

2124
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 7: Oh for sure, you know, like we don't know what

2125
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 7: they say were like in La Liga. Yeah, the Spaniards,

2126
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 7: we don't know how they're calling their they're like their

2127
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 7: dudes like like yeah, like no get because we don't

2128
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 7: know their language. Maybe they call like did does does

2129
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 7: Messi have a nickname other than the flea? That's like,

2130
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 7: is that the American nickname for him? Or is that

2131
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 7: the English nickname?

2132
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,600
Speaker 2: Or is that I don't know? Does Messi have a

2133
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: Spanish nickname?

2134
01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 4: He's Lapoga?

2135
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 7: I think the flea lapoka. That's a great U l

2136
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 7: g A. That's very good.

2137
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 2: That's a very good one.

2138
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 7: I put I put our nickname abilities right up there

2139
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 7: with anywhere in the world.

2140
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm gonna start it. Always go first.

2141
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Look.

2142
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I someone who's who lived out his nickname,

2143
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 3: still lives out his nickname. I gotta go Dion Sanders

2144
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 3: with prime Time. I loved Gotta Go. I loved him

2145
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:33,440
Speaker 3: as a kid too, had his shoes prime Time Primetime

2146
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 3: like that was that's still a great nickname.

2147
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 2: That's great all the time prime Time. It's fitting to

2148
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 2: not only is it a good nickname, it like fits

2149
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 2: him perfectly.

2150
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Prime Time keeps ticking tick in, tick in, andto he

2151
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 3: used to have a CD that I have right back

2152
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 3: over there, I mean prime Time.

2153
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm going with him great one, great one. My next, Oh,

2154
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 2: UK guy, I'm gonna go with the great one. Red Sky.

2155
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 4: I like it.

2156
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah great, And it's a hockey guys have It's a

2157
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 3: great one. Hockey in general, Graves out, there's a big

2158
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 3: nickname culture, not just like names like this, but like

2159
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 3: variations of your name.

2160
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Get a yeah I E or why or yeah.

2161
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I'm gonna go is me? I'm gonna

2162
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 7: go with a guy We talked about a little bit

2163
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 7: this episode. Pete Rose Baby, Charlie Hustle, Charlie Husks a

2164
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 7: great one.

2165
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 2: We snake drafting or we're just lets you go. Who's

2166
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 2: up Europe? I'm up regular draft? Yeah, okay.

2167
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 1: You know I was.

2168
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 3: Recently I had to get a car towed and I

2169
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 3: drove back with my toe guy and he was he

2170
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 3: was this Mexican dude and we were talking. He had

2171
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 3: a Dodgers hat on nice and he asked me who's

2172
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 3: my favorite team? And and you know, I said, I

2173
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 3: like the Giants and Red Sox, and he loved the

2174
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 3: he like loved the Lakers. He was listening to the game.

2175
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 3: We were listening to the game and you know, on

2176
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 3: and stuff, and I'm like, you like Big Poppy And

2177
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,640
Speaker 3: he didn't even know who Big Poppy was. What I go,

2178
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 3: David Ortiz, I go, do you even watch? I think

2179
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 3: like on the West Coast, they don't know the East

2180
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 3: coast ship.

2181
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 7: This guy just didn't know Baal she's Louise.

2182
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 4: Hey, I know Big Poop.

2183
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 3: I think he just loved the Dodgers because they were winning. Yeah,

2184
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 3: but it sounds like it sounds like an l a

2185
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 3: sports knew. I say, you know what, I go, David Ortiz,

2186
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 3: you know? And then I said, you know Big Poppy.

2187
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 3: He goes, oh yeah, big Puppy. Yeah, you knew Big Poppy.

2188
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 3: So that's I'm going to Bipy Runner too.

2189
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 4: I like that.

2190
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 2: That's a great pick your toe drivers on my radar

2191
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 2: me too.

2192
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 4: You don't know people, dude.

2193
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 3: You know he got me though, Jesus and what he

2194
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 3: got me because he said, oh he so, I I

2195
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,759
Speaker 3: was sitting I was stranded. I took out the old school,

2196
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 3: you know, and the starter went out, and so I'm

2197
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 3: sitting there stranding for like three hours up in like

2198
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 3: the mountains, and this dude comes and he and he goes, oh,

2199
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 3: I gotta go. I can't I can't leave. I can't

2200
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 3: take you back to LA. I'm like, I go, so,

2201
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do?

2202
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Because you're like, mechanic is like way up right, huh,

2203
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 2: your mechanic is like super fun.

2204
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 3: No, he just had to bring me home. But I

2205
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 3: was like thirty five miles and there was a lot

2206
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 3: of traffic to get back, gotcha, and it would have

2207
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 3: been an hour. And he goes, oh, I got you.

2208
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 3: Gotta have another guy. I can't leave this this post

2209
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 3: because it's out of my district. I said, all right, buddy,

2210
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 3: I'll get here slipy some and this is triple a yeah,

2211
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 3: And so I was like, I'll slip you a couple

2212
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 3: and he got me nice and.

2213
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 2: He took me. But did he get me? Did he did?

2214
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 2: Did it?

2215
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 3: Was it was that like a was that part of it?

2216
01:45:58,200 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 3: Like was he joking around?

2217
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a little sick.

2218
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 3: He loved the Dodgers regardless, and fuckho is killing it?

2219
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 2: They might have one what's at this point the best

2220
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 2: baseball I.

2221
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 3: Go to the airport and show there's there's la Dodgers hat,

2222
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 3: and then there's just a blue Otani hat. It just

2223
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 3: says Otani. Are the Dodgers selling Otani's name making money

2224
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,759
Speaker 3: off of it? Like just absolutely says no Dodgers.

2225
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 2: That's why he's making seventy million a year. How many

2226
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 2: jerseys didn't they sell in Japan.

2227
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 4: A lot?

2228
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 2: I think they called it.

2229
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 7: They say showtime, but I don't know if that's like

2230
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 7: the show is spelled saho.

2231
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 3: I like the puppy me too. And he squeezed me

2232
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 3: like I was a little kid on on the Kickoff Show.

2233
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 3: I felt like, I doesn't like he was my dad

2234
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 3: or something.

2235
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 4: He was so big and.

2236
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 7: I'm good hugged so I thought you were Dustin Pedroia.

2237
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 2: He calls me that all the time.

2238
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 3: He remind be a beaty.

2239
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,520
Speaker 4: Laser show, Laser show, Laser.

2240
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 2: Show that could be on the list. So it's my turn,

2241
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 2: and I got a question. So my guy, is it

2242
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 2: the player or the nickname? Because my guy's got two nicknames,

2243
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 2: it's pretty good.

2244
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 7: I'm going purely the nickname a little bit of both.

2245
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 2: Its room for interpretation.

2246
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 4: I love it when you call me big bo.

2247
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 2: Throw your hands in. If you's a true player.

2248
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 7: We should watch Hardballs.

2249
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 2: I know it's a good move. Sad all right, PG

2250
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:22,040
Speaker 2: baby alight, I'm gonna go with MARIOO. That's great, super Mario,

2251
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 2: that's a great. And for your Quebec claw.

2252
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: He's a love.

2253
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,480
Speaker 2: I can't pronounce it. My friend is terrible love magnific.

2254
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 4: Probably.

2255
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 3: You know, you should probably learn your French if you're

2256
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:33,960
Speaker 3: gonna go go to Canada, bubbs.

2257
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 2: Hey, if I can get another passport, I'm gonna I'm

2258
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 2: just saying, depends on you. Oh yeah, that sounded pretty good.

2259
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 2: My French is very bad.

2260
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 4: Hey, he said it, well, well said.

2261
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: It's like that family guy, you know what Kyler? Which

2262
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 2: one's that? I remember that. It's like, oh, you speak

2263
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 2: English and I only speak this, and then the phrase

2264
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 2: you know what Kyler?

2265
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 6: What?

2266
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 3: He what the French like to call which is incompetent?

2267
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 2: Jesus. I love it.

2268
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 8: I love it.

2269
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 2: We're risking each other in different languages. I have a

2270
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 2: joke dialed in, but I don't want to say it

2271
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 2: on camera.

2272
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 7: Say it, oh Jack, Oh my gosh, oh lord, I'm

2273
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 7: gonna go with This is an under the radar one,

2274
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 7: but maybe one of my favorites of all time. Vinnie

2275
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 7: Johnson the microwave. He'd come in off the bench, He'll

2276
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 7: fill up the stat sheet when he was back there

2277
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:34,759
Speaker 7: on the Sonics and the Pistons, all those great teams.

2278
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 2: Do you have an origin of why the microwave?

2279
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 7: Because he would come in off like the oouncers were

2280
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 7: calling him that because he was a bench player, but

2281
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 7: he'd come in and he'd score. He need to be hot,

2282
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:45,640
Speaker 7: really really quickly. Don't you know who this guy is?

2283
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:50,759
Speaker 7: Annie Johnson bro Legend. All right, Well I'm Hooper. That'll

2284
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 7: be good. That's a great micro See.

2285
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 3: That's one where we're gonna go Hooper. You gotta go

2286
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 3: with the best, one of the the best of all

2287
01:48:56,280 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 3: time the basketball has great nickname because I'm looking at

2288
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 3: like three right now. Yeah, but I gotta go with

2289
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 3: Irvin Magic Johnson. I don't even know it was his

2290
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 3: name was Irving until I was like twenty five, because

2291
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 3: I thought it was just magic.

2292
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 2: Right.

2293
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:13,600
Speaker 3: That's how cool of a nickname that is.

2294
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 2: I guess that's great. It's so ubiquitous. You just think

2295
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 2: it's his name that's it was his name. It's a

2296
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 2: little bit of a Tiger Wood situation.

2297
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 3: Tiger's Woods. His real name is Tiger Wood.

2298
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 2: No, it's Eldrick.

2299
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:24,719
Speaker 3: No, but his middle name is Tiger.

2300
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2301
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, never mind, sorry, okay, Yeah, Elderick, Tiger Woods, Elwood, Eldrick, Eldrick, Yeah,

2302
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:33,799
Speaker 7: Tiger Woods.

2303
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:35,719
Speaker 2: Magic, Okay, Magic Johnson.

2304
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 3: That's a good fucking great nickname. It's a great, great nickname.

2305
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 2: You give us a little deep there, a little head

2306
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 2: nod because you're like Irvin and we all thought you're

2307
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 2: gonna say doctor j.

2308
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 3: No, but you see you forgot. They say Eldrick Woods.

2309
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 3: You forgot Magic his name, you forgot it.

2310
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tiger might not be on his birth certificate.

2311
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 7: We gotta double check that one. He gotta double check that.

2312
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 7: But Magic's all time. It's an all time.

2313
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's great. Yeah, our third hockey player for

2314
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 2: Gordie how.

2315
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2316
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 2: Oh that's hockey. That's a great one. We should get

2317
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 2: Magic in.

2318
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2319
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 2: I also the namesake for the Gordia Howe hat trick.

2320
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 2: You know what that is, Jules. Yeah.

2321
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 3: When you do uh three three three goals and three

2322
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 3: assists and you got to go in the penalty box

2323
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 3: for one minute.

2324
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 2: You have to do all those and that's the Gordi

2325
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 2: hall hat trick the people. Now, what is it, Gordie

2326
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 2: how hat tricks a goal and assist in a fight.

2327
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 2: See that's like that.

2328
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 6: That.

2329
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 2: I was pretty much you can't go in the penalty

2330
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 2: box for one minute. This doesn't exist two minutes. Yeah, okay, dude,

2331
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: you don't even know puckhead, punkhead even.

2332
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 7: I gotta go with my guy Randy Johnson.

2333
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 3: Your unit is a great and it's a great one.

2334
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 2: I love ryany man.

2335
01:50:57,400 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 7: We should get Randy on here.

2336
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 2: I love him. Takes the pictures. Frank Thomas was the unit.

2337
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 2: He was the big hurt, the big hurt. Yeah, he's

2338
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 2: on that.

2339
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:06,679
Speaker 7: That's another good one. You should steal that one. Yeah,

2340
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 7: not gonna go hockey.

2341
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:09,839
Speaker 2: Oh sorry.

2342
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:11,640
Speaker 1: For me.

2343
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 2: My next one gotta go beast mode.

2344
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 4: That's a great one.

2345
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 3: Money, that's a great We used to call Marshall money,

2346
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 3: money Lynch, money lynch baby.

2347
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 2: That's I think at Berkeley that's what they called him.

2348
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 2: But then I was put it down there, money Lynch.

2349
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 3: No, it was it money Marshall. I think it was

2350
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 3: money but best so I liked that like bast mode

2351
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 3: is like, but Gronk was also kind of beast mode. Yeah,

2352
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 3: it's like a state of being not yea, no, that's true.

2353
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was in New yorkervery weekend.

2354
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 3: Like marsha r bst mode. Everyone knows best Mode.

2355
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 7: I got followed by a guy for about twelve blocks

2356
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 7: wearing a Marshall Lynch jersey. I think he was an

2357
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 7: unhoused man, but he was still kind of scary to

2358
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 7: seeing that two na I've seen that two four behind it.

2359
01:51:58,760 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 7: I was like, oh fuck, he might go beast mode on.

2360
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 7: You might go be smote on me right here in

2361
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 7: the streets.

2362
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 2: It was wild love. Marshaan. I'm gonna go with h

2363
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 2: Sidney Krasby said the kid said, the kid is a

2364
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 2: great one. Sid The kid is like that not super

2365
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 2: relevant anymore, but like he said, the old man, but

2366
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 2: he's still doing it. Hey, he's still a kid in

2367
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 2: our mind. What a legend I'm gonna go with.

2368
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go this might be a controversial pick, but

2369
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:28,599
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go Johnny Football.

2370
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:32,799
Speaker 2: It's a great nickname. It's a great nickname.

2371
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,799
Speaker 7: You got the sport that you play in your nickname

2372
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 7: and you're supposed to be like.

2373
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,719
Speaker 3: And everyone knew it it did it stuck?

2374
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 2: It stuck?

2375
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: I like it.

2376
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go for my Air Jordan's pretty insane but

2377
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 3: not good. You can't like not have that on your list.

2378
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 7: Billion dollar brand, all time nickname.

2379
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to expose my lack of basketball knowledge here.

2380
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 2: But did Air Jordan precede his Nike relationship or did

2381
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 2: that come as like a part of it? Is it

2382
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 2: a Chicken ragg kind of thing?

2383
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2384
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 2: What do you mean, like, because it's like shoe was

2385
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 2: like Air Jordan's for shoe, Like did that just come

2386
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 2: about after that or did it? Was it named after?

2387
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 2: Was the shoe named after his nickname? Air Jordan.

2388
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna show I think I think I

2389
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 7: think I think it was too based on seeing Jason

2390
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 7: Bateman's hitting the movie Air.

2391
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I always think it's I watched that movie.

2392
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 3: Great movie, a bunch, that's a great movie. Director Ben Flack,

2393
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 3: who played Phil Knight, What a movie. That's what a

2394
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:38,719
Speaker 3: great movie.

2395
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 4: Damon so highly rewatchable, highly.

2396
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 2: Rewatchable for me. While it is a billion dollar brand,

2397
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 2: it being so tied to like a corporate thing takes

2398
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 2: a little.

2399
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 3: Bit of the like, yeah, maybe I'm taking that back

2400
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 3: magic out of it because he was also the black Cat,

2401
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:52,560
Speaker 3: was he?

2402
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? In un c no, just like as a lesser

2403
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 2: no nickname. I've never once heard that in my life.

2404
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 3: Well, we've all heard of the bus Sweetness. I gotta

2405
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 3: go with Sweetness.

2406
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 2: Sweetness. That's a great one. That's a great one.

2407
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 7: Walter Payton R I p R I P leg Do

2408
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 7: we want to do a six a six man spot

2409
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 7: on the ya?

2410
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 2: I gotta go six mans? Okay? Just uh I don't

2411
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 2: everyone know this an ear last pick. I'm gonna go

2412
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 2: with Mcjesus.

2413
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 4: That's pretty good.

2414
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 7: This is a a formidable hockey list. I am gonna

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01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 7: go here with oh man, I got some tough ones

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01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 7: coming up. It's a little bit of a separating the

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01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,400
Speaker 7: art from the artist. But like Karl Malone and the Male,

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01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 7: the Mailman's one is pretty good. You gotta separate in

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01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 7: the nickname from the guy, kind of like Ted Nugent,

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01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 7: the MotorCity Madman, all time nickname.

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01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 2: Ted Nugent all Time? Yeah, Draft Dodgers, Yeah.

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01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 3: That guy.

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01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go GP the glove. Gary Payton, the glove.

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01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 7: The glove I love that. I love Gary Payton. The

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01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 7: glove was great. Okay, so now this is our honor mention,

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01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 7: our sixth man, yea, our sixth man of the year

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01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 7: coming off the bench.

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01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 2: Honorable mention to scratched the surface, Doctor j is so good.

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01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 3: I love Kenny the Snake Stabler year then though, yeah,

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01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 3: I love that's true. I'm gonna this is gonna be.

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01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 3: I just remember as a kid when you were playing

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01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 3: like fall ball. Yeah, if you played fall ball baseball,

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01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 3: everyone wanted to be mister October.

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01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 2: Oh, Reggie, that's that's true.

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01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 7: When you got a month named the prime month named

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01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 7: after you.

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01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's like mister February. And is that who's

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01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 3: mister February. There's no mister February.

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01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 3: I mean, mister October is awesome. I'm putting that on

2441
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 3: even though I don't even like the Yankees, I'm with you.

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01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 2: With also mister October. So it comes with the visual

2443
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 2: of him with like those like aviators and like fall

2444
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,840
Speaker 2: t just like it does. It comes right with it.

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01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 3: You hated it too, And then the what was was it?

2446
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 3: Or no he would he didn't. That was Gibson. But

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01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 3: he also had ran around the bases and did something

2448
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 3: some swag.

2449
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 2: That's a great one. Was that one. And then miss November.

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01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 3: But you know, but I can recognize you. Yeah, I

2451
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 3: go against my ideology.

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01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm gonna I might like make it a

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01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 2: little sad here for a second. I'm gonna go with

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01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 2: Johnny Hockey. Johnny, that's a great one. That's a great rip,

2455
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 2: my man.

2456
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 3: I love that kid. We had such a fun time

2457
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 3: together and uh in Nantucket for for Gali one year.

2458
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 3: Great kid lost too early. Brother all right, Pete uh

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01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 3: Nick Mangle too man.

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01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck bro, that was sad. It really was forty one.

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01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 3: I guess it's you know, dog dude. We competed against

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01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 3: those guys a lot. I played against him a whole lot.

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01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 7: I've heard nothing but good things about him and what

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 7: heck with.

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01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 3: He was such a good football player. We talked about

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01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 3: him in team meetings. I mean I remember Bill bringing

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01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 3: him up and like he was the heartbeat of that team.

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01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 3: And they went to the FC Championship twice with him.

2469
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 2: Back to back years.

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01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 7: And you know, into that that line in that locker room,

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01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 7: that's sad man.

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01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 2: National champion Ohio State too.

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01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,680
Speaker 3: O s You got a lot of you know, a

2474
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 3: lot of guys I played with when we want to

2475
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 3: suit like they played with him at O s U.

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01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 2: You know it's sad for his family. I know finishes off.

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01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with O. J. Simpson.

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01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 7: The juice, the juice, what a se This is a

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01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 7: good segment, guys. We can do a part two. I'm

2480
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 7: sure soon here the juice is pretty good. The juice

2481
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 7: is loose, baby, man, I mean also R I P.

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01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 2: I guess all right, P for sure man.

2483
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 3: Spiracy is coming out on that one. What's up, Twitter world?

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01:57:58,560 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 3: It's OJ Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: He was very pro of you going to the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame.

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01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 4: He was bro He spoke very highly. You know OJ

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