WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Who Wins The Chess Match? 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:07.480 He's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:18.320 head hours at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:24.480 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones and Everson Walls on Talking 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.200 Cowboys on a Friday here at the Star in Frisco, 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.040 as we get you set for Cowboys and Patriots three 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:36.560 twenty five kickoff Texas time on Sunday. And we've got 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.000 so much to get to as news is broken over 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:44.760 the last twenty four hours that affects what happens on Sunday. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:48.640 Jason Garrett's just completed his press conference. The team is 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.319 out on the practice field. The special teams guys are 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.400 out on the practice field. The rest of the team 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:57.080 is inside on the practice field at Ford Center, as 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.120 is their custom. As it's gotten a bit chilly and 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.000 brisk out there, and so it's a good test for 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:07.640 Brett Maher as well as lp let us are and 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.440 Chris Jones out on the outdoor field here because the 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.720 elements on Sunday will not be ideal. Have you seen 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.080 the weather forecast making I think they're gonna be worse 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.240 than ideal. Yes, As a matter of fact, Sunday high 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.800 of forty four a low of thirty. And so since 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:30.200 the game starts at four twenty five Eastern time, that's nighttime, 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.000 that's the that's the we're getting the worst of it 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.280 that far east, that's nighttime. By second half, it's going 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.640 to be ugly winds ten to twenty miles an hour. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.360 And the report is on Sunday, the amount of rain 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.440 that starts at one hundred percent in the day and 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:50.920 seventy percent at night could reach an inch. Oh wow, Okay. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:55.520 So you said it's going to be forty four degrees 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.960 with the window ten to high. Okay, and I guarantee 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.080 you when the sun goes down it's closer to Okay. Well, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.560 right now here in Frisco, Texas, it's forty five degrees 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.640 and there's more wind out there than what they're going 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.040 to face on Sunday. So it's perfect for the perfect. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:17.320 So the term that was a subjective term. Subjective. Yeah, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:22.520 he said that they were ideals. It was less than 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.800 the Patris might life these right, Yeah, exactly, they might. Yeah, 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.040 relative term. I guess someone said that normally when it's 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.000 a bad weather and they're playing at home, they practice outdoors, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:39.119 get used to it. Yeah, that's what we're doing, exactly right. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:43.320 We're comparing down right now. That's exactly right. So they 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.560 are going to need Zeke Elliott after all in this game. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.160 The narrative that they're a passing offense. Only now I 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.480 think you might need your star running back in this game. Yea. 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.160 And you might need more than forty four yards in 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.919 this game rushing. Yes, h yes, we'll tell Jason not 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.440 to you know too, go ahead and put them on 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:04.240 the Boston OK. Yeah, back, Because all I know is 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.800 when Baltimore beat the Patriots, mark Ingram ran for one 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:14.040 hundred and fifteen yards. Lamar Jackson ran for sixty one 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:18.280 yards and two touchdowns. They ran for the three touchdowns 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.240 of the four I think they've given up rushing, and 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.840 then they added another twenty seven and seven, So to me, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.880 that's almost that's like around two hundred yards rushing. Yeah, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.920 but that comes from Lamar Jackson sixty one Yeah. No, No, 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.520 just the fact that one that opens it up for Ingram. Yeah, 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.760 I'm pretty sure that's how that went. I saw that game. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:45.440 I thought Belichick got completely out coach. No, that doesn't happen. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.000 He was saving it for the post shot defensively especially. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.880 You could just see the Patriots they were like, what 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.480 what just happened? Is comics going through here? One number 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.440 eight on his jersey, and now Ingram is you know, yeah, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.920 he's he's he's kind of enjoying himself. Yeah. Well he's 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.320 a little quick. He's quick. He's quick, yeah, all right? 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.240 He uh and you know when he puts that Ravens 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:12.160 jersey and he actually looks slower you know with the Saints, Yeah, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.600 a little bit. Yeah, I don't know that the color, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:20.320 the culture, what I mean, you think Ravens, you think 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.839 you know, black cleats, Yeah, that'll do it. He looked 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:29.240 like being in malone to somebody coming through that. So 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.920 it was two hundred and ten yards by the Ravens 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.880 rushing in that game. Lamar Jackson actually had more carries 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.360 than mark Ingram in that game sixteen to fifteen. You're right. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.520 I mean, they just kept pounding away with Jackson and 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.680 they didn't really have an answer for it. Now, they 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.120 made some plays offensively themselves New England, but that's the 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.080 you know, Dak has not been that guy. They haven't 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.719 used Dak in that way. He's been more of a 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.320 pocket passer and they kind of selectively use him, but 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.599 that was something that worked against New England. Well, you can't. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.800 You can't say that he can't be used that way. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.080 He can't. He can't. He can't be that person. You know, 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.200 you can't beat Lamar. You can't use Dack like that. 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.080 That's just not what his game is. Now. He can run, 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.000 but I don't think you want to make a I 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.560 have a heavy dose of him. I think we're going 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.680 to see a lot of it to see if if 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.720 the Patriots have learned the lesson. I mean every coach 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.479 does that. You know, whatever happens to you the previous week, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:25.200 if it was the Achilles heel, then let's the ensuing game. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.000 The coach is going to see if you've learned your lesson. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.240 So we're going to test him and see if they've 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.400 learned that their lesson and see if they can stop them. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.120 That's a good point, or the back that's a good 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.520 point because you know, the screen game is something that 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.920 worked against Dallas against Minnesota, and you can bet it's 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.000 part of the Patriots offense anyway. But I'm fairly confident 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.000 see that that's what they do and see if I 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.320 stop it. Hope Jerry talking about holding that jello in 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.359 your hand. You know when he kind of get it 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.640 balanced one way and then it flops the other way. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.000 That's what happens in this game. You'd worry about one thing, 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:04.720 do you long time analogies? How it's hard to take 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.160 care of this is it's like the apple pie on 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.120 the on the movie. I mean, what's he done with 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.960 the jello? Actually, my better analogy than his is it's 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.200 like playing Whackable. Once you knock down one mole, the 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.440 other mole comes up, right, Okay, something always sprouts, that's true, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.480 all right. The Patriots of have the number one defense, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.480 but when you look at their rush defense, they are 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.240 tenth in the league and rush defense, but they have 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.640 blown out so many opponents this year that you would 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.400 think most of those opponents weren't rushing the football a 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.080 whole lot, and especially in the second half of those games. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.040 So you look at their yards per attempt and they've 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.040 given up four point six yards per attempt on the season. 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.400 Who could be against the so called pre event defense 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:56.320 or protecting the league? You're right defense, because this doesn't 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.599 make sense because Buffalo ran for one hundred and thirty 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.880 five year yards, So they must have had a big 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:07.360 run because they average six point one an attempt. Washington 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.680 and I don't understand this one. They ran for one 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:15.640 hundred and forty five yards and Cleveland one hundred and 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:21.400 fifty nine yards. That team in the game where they Yeah, 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.480 why would they've been running? You have been going to 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.360 catch up. It doesn't make sense. And then Baltimore two 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:31.520 ten twenty twenty two attempts. Well, Mick, you said it 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.920 a couple of days ago. The fact that they are 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.320 so unique with their front seven and they don't use 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.800 a lot of down defensive lineman play to play, maybe 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.880 that makes them a little susceptible in the run game, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.160 you know, but they they're still pretty sound defensively overall. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.240 Oh yeah, and I know that. I think the the 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.200 Eagles got up ten nothing in that game and then 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.680 gained about twenty two yards on the next few drives. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.080 You know, they have a way of buckling down on you. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.000 There's the ridiculous part about it. They've they'd lead the league. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.160 They've only given up third team touchdowns, but only nine 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:06.840 on defense. They've had four returns for touchdowns against the 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:14.520 interesting nine touchdowns. We gotta go find somebody to pick 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:19.640 on the score. No, these were all scooping scores. One interception, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.800 three fumbles. I think Baltimore recovered a fumble in the 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.520 end zone. So yeah, night. And to think about that 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.440 nine touchdowns on defense in ten games, Who's who's ever 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.959 heard of that? Eighty five Bears two. The Saints in 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.320 their Super Bowl year had a lot of returns. I 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.760 seem to recall, all right, we're just getting started here 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.360 on talking Cowboys. We can get to the elephant in 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.680 the room when we come back in just a moment 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:22.920 to talking Cowboys. Talking Cowboys continues inside the SWBC Mortgage 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:27.560 studios here at the Star in Frisco. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.120 Rob Phillips, and we've been joined this week by Everson 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.240 Walls as well. He's gonna talk about the Cowboys and 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.160 the Patriots. And now, what is that elephant in the room. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.880 That would be the linebacker or Layton vander Es. Jason 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.520 Garrett had his press conference that concluded just a few 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.920 minutes ago this morning. To get the official update on 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:52.360 Layton and Rob, were you doing a story on that? Yes, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.520 should be on the website. Not gonna play this week. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.440 I'm not sure exactly when he's gonna be back. I 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.680 think Jason and Garrett said hopefully fairly soon. He made 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.040 a point of saying it's not a career threatening injury, 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.160 it's not even a season threatening injury. But the question 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.480 is when he'll be able to get back. Cowboys have 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.079 a lot of games coming up in a short amount 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.600 of time and they just need that neck to calm 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.840 down Mickey, And it's something that probably is related to 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.079 what he had a couple of weeks ago where he 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.160 missed part of the Eagles game before the bye, and 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.160 then even after the buye he didn't play against New York. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.240 And you're looking at two games in five days with 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.920 Buffalo coming here next Thursday, three games in twelve days 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.760 with a trip to Chicago the following Thursday. And Mickey is, 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.679 if you're not watching on Texas twenty, well you can't 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.800 see it anyway because we're seeing Layton Banderah. Mickey just 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:46.160 motioned the out call for all three games. Mickey is 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.280 calling it come I would imagine so. And by the way, 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.360 it's the wolf in the room, not the elephant. Yeah, 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:59.800 there you go. How about that, yek what's a week 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.679 once a month, my time of the month there it is. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:13.840 He just took. So I mean, yeah, think about it. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:18.440 You're gonna play a game in four days after after Sunday, 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.400 and he's not going to play that game, and then 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.600 you don't get a long break, so it's only a 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:27.520 week more. So I would think conservatively he's gonna miss 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:32.920 three games. Rob's right, it's not career threatening. Um. They're 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.600 hopeful that he could get back at some point this year, 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.600 but it may take a while. They've got to let 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.360 this thing calm down. Um, you know, and I haven't 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.800 heard officially what it is, but when you hear neck 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.839 and you're gonna be out that long, you probably got 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.480 a little bit of a herniation of a disc up 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.120 there or something going on when you've already had something 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.079 here a few weeks ago, and it's kind of it 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.920 kind of arose a little bit um after the game 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.880 on Sunday. Uh and and so yeah, they've got to 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.200 do whatever they can to let it calm down, because 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:13.160 now you know the the downside. The worst thing is 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.520 that you have to have fusion, you have surgery. The 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.679 Cowboys have had guys do that previously. Um, off the 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.760 top of my head, uh, Darryl Johnston. Uh and and 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.800 they go in and basically remove the disc and they 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.440 fuse the two vertebrae together. Um, and he played another year. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:39.199 I think Randy, I think it was post because that's why. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.280 And the scary thing about that is you can you 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.679 can do it once, but if if, if you have 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.800 to do it twice because you put more pressure on 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.920 the disc blow or above, then you're basically stiff necked 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.520 the rest of your lot to that point. No, no, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.480 And I'm saying, but it has happened when everybody goes 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.880 as it career threatening and Chad Headings had this the 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.560 same fusion surgery at one point and he came back 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.520 and looks good. DJ, he looks real good. Right now, 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.360 DJ just played one more year. Uh and he was 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:20.800 basically after and of course it would be done. Yeah. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.400 So so anyway, UM, you got to be careful with this. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:31.120 And um, DJ is different because he's a moose. Yeah. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.760 So yeah, it's Uh, it's unfortunate. It's bad timing, especially 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.720 the team they're going to play and how they play 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.400 their running backs and how much they throw to them. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.720 So Sean Lee, you're up. Joe Thomas, you're up. I 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.839 got no problem with Sean Lee covering backs out of 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.440 the backfield. He's shown that before. In fact, this week, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.840 I was sitting there wondering as many three receiver sets 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.640 as the Patriots use. I was wondering, how much is 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.839 Sean Lee going to even play in this game? Right? 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.160 I think as a SAM linebacker was going to play 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.000 a lot. Now. Although I saw they may be down 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.880 Mohammed sanou Um, it looks like he hadn't practice yet 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.920 this week. And I saw a story that pointed out 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.480 that no one has played for the Patriots this year 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.720 if they missed the first two days of practice. So 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.120 I don't know if that's an indication or how bad 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:26.720 it is. Good right, and so that means they for 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:31.720 their uh, you'll have Edelman, uh Dorset got back into practice, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.880 and then their third guy will either be Jacoby Myers 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:40.280 or nikkil Harry, who's played just one game this year. 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.760 The rookie Myers has played nine games this year, and 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.960 they would have to use one of those two guys. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.160 And nikil Harry is the first round draft pick. He's 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.880 a really talented guy. But as as I think any 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.280 of us would know, with Tom Brady, I mean to 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.160 get on the same page quickly with Tom Brady. I mean, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.720 you you've got to have it upstairs, right. You have 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.160 to be where you're supposed to be, exactly it's supposed 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.440 to be. I get into you don't worry. It makes me, 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.360 I don't know, fills me with a little bit of hope. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.800 It's tough coming out and playing with an injury in 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.840 these conditions that that we're expecting up in the East Coast. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.880 It's it's uh, that might be something good for us, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.320 not in regards to Vanda Sean Lee, but their wide 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.120 receiver is being a little bit hobbled or limited in 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.560 some way. That's when you really put the pressure as 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.000 a defensive back. You know, if I'm going up against Dorset, 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.160 I'm not going to back off of him the entire game. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:33.720 I'm going to be in his face the entire game. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.680 Put pressure on. And the weather itself, you know, inclement 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.680 weather expected, it's it's going to be tough for anybody 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.560 who's injured to be out there, to be close to 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.480 to to and you know what door set. You know, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.479 it's a concussion thing. So sometimes when you've had a concussion, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.400 they want you to go out there and do something 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.320 physical and they listen to them as limited and then 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.240 see how you uh, if there's any residual effect of it. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.280 So just because he was limited doesn't mean he's cleared 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.440 concussion protocol. He probably has to do something today to 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.680 clear And we've seen that happen before. And I think 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.000 it was last week or the week before somebody was 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.720 in concussion protocol and they ended up practicing unlimited base 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:14.600 and the next thing they know, they got ruled out. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.480 So we'll see where that one goes. But to Bill's point, 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.280 you know, they get their running backs involved heavily, not 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:25.000 just in the running game, but James White forty eight catches, Birkhead, 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.840 they're getting him back in the mix a little bit. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:32.160 Eighteen catches already, so Michelle as well. And so that's 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.000 part of the short passing games, part of the screen game. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.400 They're gonna try to get a lot of guys in ball. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.880 They probably had to because get you mentioned ever since 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.920 some of the injuries they've had at wide receiver. Yeah, 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.320 what about Van DUIs, I've been watching him this year. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.640 The Jets game was kind of the thing, like the 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:51.320 beginning of the a tough season for him. He seemed 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.480 to get a little exposed trying to cover some of 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.720 the running backs and playing pass. All linebackers have been 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.680 really getting cut off by these offensive linemens just in 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:07.320 their faces. Whether the oppositions running wide or whether they're 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.560 coming up the middle. You've got big defensive linemen in 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:16.040 in Smith's face. Vanderas Sean Lee, Yeah, I don't. I 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:20.000 haven't seen the Vanderish that I was looking forward to 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:26.000 this year. I've seen him make way too many mistakes 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.480 and it had nothing to do with his ability. I 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.879 was like almost guessing what hold the film and not 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:37.080 cassing right or not. If they seem react slower than usual, 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.159 that's why these linemen are getting These are the uncovered linemen, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:46.480 and gets Minnesota were so fast in their face they 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.359 didn't not have a chance. Now, I don't know that 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.840 it has anything to do with the defensive linemen not 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.600 holding them up enough. As you know. I know that's 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.679 been practiced, you know when I was here with the Cowboys, 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.240 But they are jumping out in their faces so much. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.840 I saw I saw Smith just trying to run from 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.439 the cut blocks. The top blocks were coming at him 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.280 and then it was up if it was up the middle. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.719 They couldn't get off the blocks that ten yards down 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.920 the field. So I saw Vandersch having the same problems. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.200 But I expected more from him because he's the brute. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.560 He's that guy Smith. I don't want to call him 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:26.960 Ackilly Smith. Smith. Smith is known to run. He's born, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.600 he's born to run. He's a ladable guy. But Vanderes 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.760 has that lad of ability. But I expected him to 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.920 be that brute up the middle. He was going to 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.199 replace Sean Lee and be that guy that we can 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.160 stop the teams, that can stop the teams from coming 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.359 between the tackles. That's what I thought he was here for, 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.680 which is what he did last year. This year has 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.600 not been the case. Well, the thing that Sean Lee 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.480 has done throughout his career is I mean, he dissects 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:55.560 that plays exactly. He can even pre snap. He has 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.919 an anticipation of where it's coming, and he can avoid 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.199 those blocks and so and it's so it's something he 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.760 has it naturally and he has it through preparation. And 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:08.480 I think Layton has that same work ethic. But still, 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:12.080 you know, it's takes some time in this league to 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.240 Sean Lee. La was that last week just sniffed out 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.520 the screen before the hun you know, those the kind 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.119 of things that that which makes him a faster player. 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.320 And well that's what helped me. If you can anticipate, 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.000 then yeah, you know one step ahead, you know, and 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:27.919 I was so slower than that that even things up. 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.639 So but now, and you know, and I wonder if 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.880 it affects how the Cowboys play their linebackers in this 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.240 game because of I don't know how much you want 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.199 Sean Lee man the man on James White and you know, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.000 out in the flat all the time, and he was 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.000 having problems with Ulph and the Vikings, the Vikings Gay right. 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.080 The other thing that occurred to me as well, maybe 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:56.320 you want to play more dime, but now you're down 0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:00.400 a cornerback without Anthony Brown. And I'm wondering because I've 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.640 heard I can't remember if one of the coaches said this, 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:07.760 or maybe Jerry Um if you say, well, if I 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.200 got to play dime, maybe I bring Xavier Woods back 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.840 into the slot and then put Thompson back at safety. 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.040 That's something he did his rookie year, right, And that's 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.080 what that's basically what he played as down the street 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.199 with those young corners started playing as rookies. He was 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.000 their slot corner. So that's interesting. That's in a pinch, 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:28.760 you can do that. 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