WEBVTT - Break _12_31.mp3 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:04.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:06.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:16.280 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:16.840 Yes? 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:18.720 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:19.520 Absolutely? 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.840 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:28.280 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:35.920 with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.520 It is Tuesday, December thirty, first, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:43.840 episode number ninety five. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:48.919 Welcome to the latest edition of The Break ninety five. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.240 We're moving along. We're gonna get to one hundred. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.360 And something here before fort before we get to the 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:54.280 next fiscal year. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:55.680 But welcome to the show. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.960 We were presented by LGLG is the world's number one 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.000 oh at TV brand for eleven years accounting see why 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.160 at LG dot com Forward slash o ed evo. All right, 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.080 Amber's out here today, but we got a lot to 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.479 get into. Tommy Yarsh joining us. We're going to uh 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.400 in the first segment. We've got a couple of different 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.600 things we want to talk about, some different comments that 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.320 were made yesterday and today. Mike Zimmer had it some 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.120 time with the press yesterday. I thought he had some 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.120 interesting things to say. Mike, I'm sorry, I Mike McCarthy. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.360 Jerry Jones had an interview this morning on one O 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.080 five dot three the Fan with our guy Sean, Audrey 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.280 RJ and Bobby, and he had some interesting things to say. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.600 We'll get into some of that in the second segment. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.600 Brian's got some I got some questions for us. You're 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.600 gonna do his Zimmer segment. Yeah, I got a Zimmer question. Okay, 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.639 hopefully we don't tread all over your Zimmer question. If 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.520 we're too close to then be like, hey, let's back 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:45.119 away from that. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.360 And well, you know what I say. I like to 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.840 make these questions. You know, we usually all talk about 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.200 what we're gonna do here, but I like to keep 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.720 these questions where you don't know, so kind of get 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.600 that surprise answer. So if you get real close to 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.160 my Zimmer question. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:01:59.560 Just tap me. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:04.960 I'm gonn go, Derek, Hey, back away, look them all right, And. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.440 We got some questions too from you guys. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.360 You guys hit me up on Twitter, gave me some questions. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.880 We're gonna hit some of those in the third segment. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:11.200 If you if you're want to call us. You can 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:12.919 call us eight eight eight eight five five two two 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.240 ninety seven again eight eight eight eight five five two 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.800 two nine seven. Let's save those calls for the third segment, 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.280 and we'll try to get to a couple if we have. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.399 Them on the line. All right, Let's start first though, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.760 with Mike Zimmer yesterday. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.760 Well, I'm gonna give you a quote, all right, and 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.360 then again if it gets too close, just just nudge me, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.400 all right. But I wanted to get your reactions to 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.560 this the follow up because yeah, right, because it jumped 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.440 out at me and it was very interesting to me, 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.079 and I'd love to know what you guys thought of 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.519 it and what you think he was getting at The 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.320 quote was I wish that we that when I came in, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.880 I did everything the way I wanted it done. That 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.040 was probably the struggles at the beginning. I was just 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.040 doing things I was uncomfortable with, and so I had 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.480 to do what I had to do. I said it 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.240 to some of the coaches, you come in, you come in, 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:00.840 and you come in here. 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:04.960 Wow, I don't know what I may have missed it up. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:05.960 They are good. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.520 They were good last year, right, So I come in, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.280 I don't want to really rock the boat. I wasn't 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.480 as tough as I typically am. I probably wasn't as 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.360 hard headed about how I do things, is the best 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:18.000 way to say it. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.400 That's what I regret the most. What are your thoughts 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:21.400 on those comments? 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:22.799 Tack that one, Tommy. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.840 I think the real key there is him saying, hey, 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.240 this defense was really good last year. I didn't want 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.600 to come in and be the guy that changes everything 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.840 and then that takes away your product on the field. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.440 So from that perspective, I understand. I think there are ways, however, 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:40.240 to where you. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.480 Could have come in and implemented your system, implemented your style, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.760 whatever you want to call it, and still find that 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.440 success because the one thing that's not changing is the 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.160 guys that you've got on the roster for the most part. 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.440 Obviously there were some key departures last year, but you've 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.280 still got Microp Parsons, So you're going to build this 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.960 thing around anyways. And you know, when you think of 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.720 Mike Zimmer and I know brod Us knows him really well. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.120 I mean, you Harden knows no nonsense. This guy's down 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.920 to business and it's worked for him his entire career. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.960 So I can see why that's somewhat jarring. But at 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.320 the same time, I understand the perspective of, hey, you know, 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.440 if we're rolling, I don't want to change too much, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.599 right because it's something that has worked out well and 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.920 the teams haven't success they're winning games because of it. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.880 But at the same time, you're hired to implement your style, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.159 You're hired to implement your way of doing things to 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.400 benefit this organization. And so I think he's done that 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:31.880 here in the back half, and I think that's because 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:32.920 he's gotten more comfortable. 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.680 I was very critical of Mike because I thought they 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.960 taught it too slow, And now listening to Mike talk 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.640 about it, and Mike and I haven't talked about this 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.640 particular avenue. I wonder if Mike came in and read 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.760 the room. I wonder if he came in and started 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.200 meeting with his guys. You know, Michael Parsons wasn't here 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.320 for the OTA stuff and things like that. He's like, Man, 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.480 what am I dealing with here? The best players wrestling 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.920 sumo dudes you know in Tokyo and doing stuff like that. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:01.880 You know what am I dealing with here? 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:02.400 You know? 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.200 I'm okay, I've got some coaches here. I don't know 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.920 from a previous staff. You know, how loyal are. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:09.200 They to me? 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.039 Are they loyal to I think Mike might have read 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.520 the room. I thought. I think Mike might have came 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.400 in and not wanted to be what Tommy was talking 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.839 about that because Mike is a hard ass. Mike is 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.120 a get in your face guy. 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.760 Well we thought we were getting when we first when 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:24.640 they first made to hire. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.479 Right, we were sitting there watching practice. He's got his 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.599 arm around Mozzie Smith like, hey, come on, man, you 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.760 could do this. You can. Old Mike Zimmer's like, hey, 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.000 if you don't do this, you're going to be standing 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.400 with me. I ain't effing around today. We've all seen 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.920 the NFL films where Mike has like got this crazed 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.479 look and he's and he's going after the Cincinnati Bengal 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.479 dudes and they're all looking straight ahead like he's serious. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.159 I've seen this from Mike. I didn't see that. I 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.440 didn't see that coaching this year. I saw a guy 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.200 that was, you know, Mike was trying to his training 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.160 camp was going, he was he was implementing some things. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.479 Maybe Mike read the room that the buy in was 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.080 going to be tough. He's like, man, can I come 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.040 in and be this hard ass guy. And knowing that 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.280 these guys are trying to get over of losing, it's 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.560 gonna sound terrible losing their dad dan Quinn and they 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.840 loved him, by the way, yeah Quinn, they loved dan Quinn. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.400 They just lost their dad. And so here comes here 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:33.960 comes new dad, Stepdad, and all of a sudden now and. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:34.600 Start making rule. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.520 Stepdad ain't gonna tell me what to do. You know, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.960 we we were damn good defense with real dad was here, 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.280 not Stepdad. And I think that's where I think Mike 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.919 read the room, and I think it took it. Honestly, 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.440 it took them getting their ass kicked the way they 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.360 did the first five or six weeks of the season 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.440 to realize that, like, listen, if I don't pull this 0:06:55.440 --> 0:07:01.040 thing up, we're all gone. We're all gone. You Osa 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:08.160 Lewis all you got gone? Me too, gone. Because they did, 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.760 they turned things around in a positive way where they 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.200 weren't getting just crushed in games like they were the 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.440 first five weeks of the season. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.040 So let me ask you this, If you take what 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.720 this defense is and I'm not talking about what they 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.320 were at the beginning of the season. I'm talking about 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.120 what they were by the final five, last five weeks. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.480 And you compare that to the twenty twenty three version 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.840 of the Dallas Cowboys defense. Are they better, worse or 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:33.240 the same? 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.160 I think they play the run better. And it sounds 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.680 crazy when you gave up one hundred and but I 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.640 think up until that point of the game. You know, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.280 this season, there have been some days where we've sat 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.440 here and talked about the team, the opponent for that week, 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.520 and like, they can run the ball well. Opponent had 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.680 sixty yard rush. Yep, opponent had forty seven yard rushing. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.880 They run the ball really well. You know, Derek believed me, 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.560 Tommy believe me. They run the ball really well. Opponent 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.679 had ninety yards on you know, twenty eight carries, thirty 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.920 carries whatever, you know, something like that. So yeah, I 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.680 think I think the thing that they got better at 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:20.240 was playing run defense. But what also happened is he 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:25.440 got something out of Golston, he got something out of Osa, 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.520 he got something out of damn Mozzi Smith, you know, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.640 and he took and he took, he took over shown 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.880 and he made something out of over shown until he 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.920 got hurt and then this maryor Sliefeule. I mean, they're 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.320 the coaches are standing in the scouts are standing here 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.199 during the draft, and they're telling us how much they 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.160 love Mary Sleeful and were like, god, you didn't take 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.240 a running back, you idiots. You know, they were telling 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:54.040 us how good you know that Neelan was, and we're like, god, 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:55.960 there's another running back that didn't get drafted. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:56.120 There. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:09:00.280 You know, they he he did something to coaches are 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.920 responsible for, and that's putting your players in best position 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.880 to make plays. Now, I'll say this real quickly. He 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.920 messed up with that whole thing with Booth. You know, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.360 he didn't put Booth. He didn't help Booth in that 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.240 game last week. He didn't help him. And that's not 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.640 like Mike. But maybe he was to the point where 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.160 I can't help him. I can't. I can't. I don't 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.520 have the ability to help him like I need. I mean, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.640 I think that with what he had to work with 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:32.120 the cornerback situation being a damn mess, you know, Micah 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.880 coming back, I think he did the best he could. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.160 Gave him a chance, gave him a chance from all 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:38.200 to maybe keep their jobs. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.200 So I think it's kind of a lot of things 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.520 there when you look at this year compared to last year, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.080 because this year, like Brian talked about, the personnel you've 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.160 got at corner has just been so up and down 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.599 and you have no consistency there, whereas they had a 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.640 little bit more of that last year, Deron Bland was 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.800 playing at an all pro level and so that completely 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:57.600 changes everything. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:59.839 Mike did kind. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.440 Of talk about the booth situation yesterday in terms of, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:04.120 you know, when we. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.880 Try to give him help, they run the ball. 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.040 That's why, say Quon Barkley has one hundred and twenty 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.920 seven yards in the second half, and so you know, 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.560 but that's also a bypart of hey, there's we got 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.840 nobody else in that room, like, like, what are you 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.680 going to do out there? Because if you slide, Jordan 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.880 lewis out there, okay, Well somebody's got to cover the 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.760 tight end. Is that something you trust Israel mcqualmuud doing? 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.040 Is it something you trust somebody else? 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.480 I would have gambled me too. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.280 I don't think you could have got well, And I. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.920 Would like I would rather die a fast death in 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:34.720 the slow death I was dying in that game. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:35.800 I absolutely agree. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.800 I'm not saying that that's not a bad solution because frankly, 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:40.720 anything would have been a better solution than what it 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.960 was at that point. So you know, from that perspective, 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:44.640 I think you look at last year's defense say well, 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.199 what's it's loads better? But Brian makes a good point 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.240 that this year they've stopped the run pretty well. I mean, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.079 we look at that first half. Saquon Barkley was held 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.600 to forty yards. That is not a hang the banner 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.280 moment by any means, because he had one hundred and 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.440 twenty seven and ran for two thousand yards on you 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.880 in the second half. But nonetheless, when you think about 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.839 where they were last year in the troubles that they 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.920 had doing there, and I think, honestly he doesn't get 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.000 enough credit. Is Eric Kendricks in the middle of this 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.480 defense because he knows Mike Zimmer's scheme so well. He's 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.880 always been great against the run throughout his entire career. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.640 Having that kind of having your mic guy and Marrislee 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.120 if I was going to become that I think in 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.320 the future, but having that guy who knows the scheme, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.600 who knows where to send guys has been really important, 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.559 and then your defensive tackles stepping up to and developing 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.960 and Mike Zimmer getting the most out of them. You 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.960 know that Front seven really is has been impressive this year. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.640 Earlier this morning, Jerry Jones was on one on five 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.240 Got three the Fan with Sean RJ and Bobby. What 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.560 was his message there and kind of what did you 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.199 take from that conversation, particularly what he had to say 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:45.080 about Mike McCarthy. 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:46.839 Yeah, there was a lot there. There was a lot, 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.400 but there wasn't if that makes sense. We're getting to 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:50.920 the point of the year. 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.960 Obviously we're being asked about Mike McCarthy's future because everybody's 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:58.080 contracts are up. Jones non committal in terms of which 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.280 way they're deciding to go yet, but he was asked 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.719 about how there's several reports over the last couple of 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.640 days about, hey, if Mike McCarthy decides not to return 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.720 to Dallas, or if Dallas doesn't retain Mike McCarthy, there's 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.280 going to be a lot of NFL teams that are 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.079 interested in him and wanting to bring him in and 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.400 see what he can provide. So when he asked about that, 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.880 he said, quote, well, I feel good about Mike McCarthy. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.320 The main thing is I like the job that he's done. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.040 It's unfortunate we've had the year that we've had, but 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.600 I feel good about Mike. So that was my takeaway 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.280 there in terms of that was about his in depth 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.320 as he got about, you know, what the job Mike 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.280 McCarthy has done. He talked about what he's learned through 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.800 these times with Mike. This is only his fifth losing 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.679 season as a head coach in his eighteen years coaching 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.960 in the NFL, So that's incredibly impressive. And you know, 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.480 you learn about a guy when you go through times 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.000 like this and what they're really about. So Jerry talked 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.520 a little bit about that. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:50.680 When asked if. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.040 He was in any sort of hurry to make a 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.200 decision about the coaching staff and their future, he said, quote, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:57.280 I'm not under any. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.280 Unusual timeframe at all. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.000 So that tells you probably not in a rush to 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.000 get this done. They're gonna sit back and really look 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.280 at everything and evaluate where they go from here. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.600 God bless them, and then no, seriously, God bless them 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:10.120 if they do that. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.920 And then in terms of where they go going forward, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:15.440 it is a lot about how Hey, when this team 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.240 is healthy, we feel like we're going to we can 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:17.800 put out. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.600 A good product regardless. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.320 And the quote for me was, when I look at 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.959 where we are at our talent level, I feel real 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.400 good that we've got the nucleus of a team that 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.920 can compete. He sided things on Dak Prescott coming back, healthy, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.520 young offensive line having another year under their belts as 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.000 reasons to why those things would happen, and getting some 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.839 defensive guys back healthy as well. So yeah, a lot 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:44.000 to unpact from Jerry this morning, but still nothing on 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:44.760 miche McCarthy. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:45.600 I heard you say. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.679 I heard you make that noise, Brian when you sit 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.319 then when you said that about it, they have the 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.320 nucleus of the team. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:51.400 Do you disagree with that? 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.079 Man? Did they look like a team that could go 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.160 out and beat Detroit right now, or go out and 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.880 beat Minnesota, or go beat Green Bay or go I 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.160 know San Francisco's falling apart, but San Francisco the other night, 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.079 you know, I mean, I just I think they've got 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.679 I think they've got certain players. I don't think they have. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.880 Enough, but that I think that's what he said. Well, 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.719 at least that's how that took the nucleus he has. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.840 They have that they have the high level players that 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.800 they do you disagree with that or do you agree 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:19.240 with that part? 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.120 I think that they've got probably three or four players 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.760 that can do that. I think they're going to need 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.760 a lot more great players. Yeah, of the great player. 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:33.480 Look at look at these teams that are NFC North 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.720 has got two fourteen game winners, and so the first 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:42.440 time in NFL history and somebody in that division is 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.240 going to win fifteen games. Maybe well, if the fifteen 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.680 game winner will win the division, the fourteen game will 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.160 winner will be the fifth seed in that. Think about that. 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.880 You're gotta play that division next year, by the way, Yeah, 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.920 you know what, But you know what's interesting the Bears, Yeah, 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:05.560 well I just kind of feel like though, I don't 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.360 know if they've got the I don't know if they've 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.080 got all the pieces. Yeah, and that's where it's going 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.040 to be good about the draft and hopefully they can 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.280 turn things around. I think the Commanders are going to 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.960 be better next year too. I think that I think 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.640 there's teams the Giants will see if the Giants might 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.320 have worked themselves out of getting a quarterback, you know, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.560 the quarterback. Maybe they maybe they're going to, you know, 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.360 depend on what happens. But I just kind of feel 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.760 like that I watched these other teams play on a 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.680 weekly basis, and I just don't feel like Dallas's could 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.680 really compete now, maybe right now with the way that 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.120 they surely can't with the way it's configured now. But man, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.640 they got they're gonna have to figure out some things. Yeah. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.000 My thing with with kind of when you talk about 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.400 it from that standpoint is I think Dallas has some pieces. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.800 I agree with you. Yeah, I think right now, I. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.960 Look at this team relative to twenty twenty three version, 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.720 and the twenty twenty three version was a good team. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:15:59.680 Yeah, they still. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.040 Didn't have an enough to get deep into the playoffs. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.440 And that's where I'm like, I think, there, I agree 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.720 with you. I think they need a few more of 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.560 those difference making players. And here's the part that's the kicker. 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.320 They lost so much of their depth last year. They 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.280 can't have another year of the blood letting they had 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:17.680 last year where you lose. 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:18.800 So many of the depth guys. 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.120 But that's what I'm saying, like that, that's the point, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.320 that's where I think the issue really becomes it becomes 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:28.680 where this thing becomes a problem. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.520 Is your depth was hit last year. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.920 If your depth gets hit again this year, that's not 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.800 moving you forward now. I think on Jerry's from Jerry's 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.920 point of view, he's probably looking at it and saying, well, yeah, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.320 we think that we've replenished some of that depth with 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:44.800 the guys we drafted last year. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.960 They had this time to play, that will be better 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:47.360 next year. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:47.840 Question. 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.240 Okay, let's let's hope that's hope. Right. 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.280 We don't know that, but but they can hope that, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.800 and then they got to have another great draft this year, right, 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:56.240 and then you can maybe. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:56.800 Replenish all that. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:58.760 But that's that's the hard part about this is the 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.760 depth has become an issue. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:01.160 For them this point. 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:01.880 It's a high ask. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:03.640 I think it's a high Asshi. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.320 No, no, please cut me off any time you want. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.359 But when he says nucleus, right, and you think about 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.160 the nucleus of teams anywhere, you're usually not getting more 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.760 than four guys who make up your I think at least, 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.040 and you gets feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.439 But this nucleus from what Jerry's talked about, from what 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.639 Stevens talked about, is Dak Prescott, Ceede Lamb and Michael Parsons. 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.080 You've had all three of them together on the same 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.560 field this year for what four or five games. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.560 And by the way, he threw in Trayvon Diggs as well. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:33.720 So if you want to throw him in there, so 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.840 you can throw in out there, how much he's lost, 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.120 how how how many games. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:38.960 He missed, you can throw Trayvon Diggs in there. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.800 So if that's your nucleus, that's great, that's I would 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.400 say that's a pretty good nucleus because when Dak Prescott's 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:45.879 playing well, he's shown that he can play at an 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.080