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Speaker 5: It is Tuesday, December thirty, first, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 5: episode number ninety five.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break ninety five.

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Speaker 2: We're moving along. We're gonna get to one hundred.

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Speaker 5: Amber's out here today, but we got a lot to

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Speaker 5: get into. Tommy Yarsh joining us. We're going to uh

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Speaker 5: in the first segment. We've got a couple of different

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Speaker 5: things we want to talk about, some different comments that

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Speaker 5: were made yesterday and today. Mike Zimmer had it some

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Speaker 5: time with the press yesterday. I thought he had some

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Speaker 5: interesting things to say. Mike, I'm sorry, I Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: Jerry Jones had an interview this morning on one O

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Speaker 5: five dot three the Fan with our guy Sean, Audrey

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Speaker 5: RJ and Bobby, and he had some interesting things to say.

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Speaker 5: We'll get into some of that in the second segment.

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Speaker 5: Brian's got some I got some questions for us. You're

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Speaker 5: gonna do his Zimmer segment. Yeah, I got a Zimmer question. Okay,

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Speaker 5: hopefully we don't tread all over your Zimmer question. If

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Speaker 5: we're too close to then be like, hey, let's back

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Speaker 5: away from that.

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Speaker 6: And well, you know what I say. I like to

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Speaker 6: make these questions. You know, we usually all talk about

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Speaker 6: what we're gonna do here, but I like to keep

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Speaker 6: these questions where you don't know, so kind of get

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Speaker 6: that surprise answer. So if you get real close to

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Speaker 6: my Zimmer question.

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Speaker 2: Just tap me.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonn go, Derek, Hey, back away, look them all right, And.

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Speaker 2: We got some questions too from you guys.

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Speaker 5: You guys hit me up on Twitter, gave me some questions.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna hit some of those in the third segment.

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Speaker 5: If you if you're want to call us. You can

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Speaker 5: call us eight eight eight eight five five two two

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Speaker 5: ninety seven again eight eight eight eight five five two

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Speaker 5: two nine seven. Let's save those calls for the third segment,

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Speaker 5: and we'll try to get to a couple if we have.

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Speaker 2: Them on the line. All right, Let's start first though,

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Speaker 2: with Mike Zimmer yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna give you a quote, all right, and

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Speaker 5: then again if it gets too close, just just nudge me,

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Speaker 5: all right. But I wanted to get your reactions to

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Speaker 5: this the follow up because yeah, right, because it jumped

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Speaker 5: and I'd love to know what you guys thought of

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Speaker 5: it and what you think he was getting at The

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Speaker 5: quote was I wish that we that when I came in,

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Speaker 5: I did everything the way I wanted it done. That

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Speaker 5: doing things I was uncomfortable with, and so I had

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Speaker 5: to do what I had to do. I said it

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Speaker 5: to some of the coaches, you come in, you come in,

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Speaker 5: and you come in here.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know what I may have missed it up.

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Speaker 5: They were good last year, right, So I come in,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to really rock the boat. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: That's what I regret the most. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 6: Tack that one, Tommy.

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Speaker 7: I think the real key there is him saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: So from that perspective, I understand. I think there are ways, however,

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Speaker 7: Could have come in and implemented your system, implemented your style,

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Speaker 7: Obviously there were some key departures last year, but you've

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Speaker 7: I mean, you Harden knows no nonsense. This guy's down

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Speaker 7: So I can see why that's somewhat jarring. But at

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Speaker 7: the teams haven't success they're winning games because of it.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time, you're hired to implement your style,

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Speaker 7: You're hired to implement your way of doing things to

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Speaker 6: I was very critical of Mike because I thought they

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Speaker 6: what am I dealing with here? The best players wrestling

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Speaker 6: sumo dudes you know in Tokyo and doing stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: I'm okay, I've got some coaches here. I don't know

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Speaker 6: Are they loyal to I think Mike might have read

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Speaker 2: Well we thought we were getting when we first when

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Speaker 6: Right, we were sitting there watching practice. He's got his

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Speaker 6: I've seen this from Mike. I didn't see that. I

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Speaker 6: Maybe Mike read the room that the buy in was

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Speaker 6: gonna sound terrible losing their dad dan Quinn and they

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Speaker 6: Stepdad ain't gonna tell me what to do. You know,

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Speaker 6: it took them getting their ass kicked the way they

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Speaker 6: Lewis all you got gone? Me too, gone. Because they did,

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Speaker 6: they turned things around in a positive way where they

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you this, If you take what

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Speaker 5: And you compare that to the twenty twenty three version

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Speaker 6: I think they play the run better. And it sounds

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Speaker 6: and like, they can run the ball well. Opponent had

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Speaker 6: They run the ball really well. You know, Derek believed me,

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Speaker 6: Tommy believe me. They run the ball really well. Opponent

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Speaker 6: You know, they he he did something to coaches are

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Speaker 6: to make plays. Now, I'll say this real quickly. He

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Speaker 6: I can't help him. I can't. I can't. I don't

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Speaker 6: Gave him a chance, gave him a chance from all

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Speaker 7: So I think it's kind of a lot of things

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Speaker 7: because this year, like Brian talked about, the personnel you've

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Speaker 7: little bit more of that last year, Deron Bland was

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Speaker 2: I heard you say.

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Speaker 5: I heard you make that noise, Brian when you sit

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Speaker 5: Enough, but that I think that's what he said. Well,

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Speaker 2: So many of the depth guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's hope that's hope. Right.

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Speaker 6: No, no, please cut me off any time you want.

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Speaker 7: But when he says nucleus, right, and you think about

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Speaker 7: But this nucleus from what Jerry's talked about, from what

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Speaker 5: And by the way, he threw in Trayvon Diggs as well.

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Speaker 3: He missed, you can throw Trayvon Diggs in there.

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Speaker 7: So if that's your nucleus, that's great, that's I would

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Speaker 7: The problem is there's twenty two players on a field

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Speaker 2: Is a lot, bigger lot.

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Speaker 5: But I mean they got star players at a lot

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the forty nine ers should have been

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Speaker 5: I will say this, I would love to see Mike

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Speaker 6: All right, Ryan, we do I like the way you

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Speaker 6: play on the fly kind of hockey like there.

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Speaker 2: You gotta do what you gotta do, all right, Tommy.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, I was teasing all these Mike Zimmer questions.

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Speaker 6: I got one for you. Then let's go. Tommy. Do

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Speaker 6: you worry that, even given the opportunity to return, Mike Zimmer.

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Speaker 7: Won't I think it's it's reasonable to think that. I

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Speaker 7: think there might be reasons for that, you know, whether

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Speaker 7: it be from how this year has gone, or how

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Speaker 7: he may feel about personnel going forward to you know,

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Speaker 7: the personal things that have happened in his life that

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Speaker 7: caused him to sit out a year of football.

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Speaker 3: Considered with you know what he's.

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Speaker 7: Already done, how long he's been in the league, and

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Speaker 7: what he wants in his future, yeah, I would say

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Speaker 7: that that's something to at least consider. But if at

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Speaker 7: the sound the same note, if Dallas wants him to

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Speaker 7: come back, or if he wants to come back to Dallas,

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Speaker 7: and you know there's mutual feeling there, sure you bring

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Speaker 7: him back. I think I feel like what he's done

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Speaker 7: in this back half of the season with such limited

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Speaker 7: personnel has has been great all the time. I mean

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Speaker 7: Sunday showed you that it hasn't been the lead, sure,

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Speaker 7: but it's been good enough to where I think you

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Speaker 7: want him back, Derek.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I worry about it, And the only reason I

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Speaker 5: worry about it is because I want him back. And

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Speaker 5: that tells you the love of respect I have for

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Speaker 5: him as a defensive coordinator. What he's done this year,

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Speaker 5: I think, in getting this defense on track after the

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Speaker 5: poor start, says to me that if you give him time,

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Speaker 5: he'll make it work, and that means he'll have even

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Speaker 5: more time if he goes into next year, he'll have

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Speaker 5: a better contingent of players, because hopefully he'll have everyone

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Speaker 5: healthy or at least have a few more options. Definitely

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Speaker 5: at cornerback, they should hopefully get some more guys that

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Speaker 5: they can roll out there if they need to. You know,

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Speaker 5: I just think that everything thing right now is pointing

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Speaker 5: up with a lot of these guys and with this

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Speaker 5: defense overall, I don't want to short circuit that, and

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Speaker 5: that's why I'm worried.

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Speaker 2: I want him to be back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd like I have not talked to Mike about

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Speaker 6: this at all, so I'll be very upfront about that.

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Speaker 6: I will say this though, that I do worry about

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Speaker 6: him coming back. I do big Mike has got a

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Speaker 6: lot of other interests. He's you know, he's a horse breeder.

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Speaker 6: He's got a horse that's legitimly can run in the

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Speaker 6: Kentucky Derby here soon. It's gonna take money to do that,

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Speaker 6: So Mike probably wants to keep his shop as long

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Speaker 6: as he can.

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Speaker 2: But but I think for Costa Rica, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think that Mike. I think that Mike is uh.

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Speaker 6: I think Mike did the Jones is a favor here.

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Speaker 6: I think he did Mike McCarthy favorite coming here. And

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Speaker 6: you know, you know, and he's you know, he's helped

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Speaker 6: some guys you know along the way. You look, what,

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Speaker 6: maybe Al Harris got a little bit more experience working

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Speaker 6: with Nick could not what could be better for dan Quinn?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's gonna be for Al Harris worked for

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Speaker 6: with dan Quinn, work with Mike Zimmer learn a little bit,

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Speaker 6: uh that way. I just but I would be concerned.

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Speaker 6: I don't think this is necessarily This is my opinion.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's a slam dunk, you know. I

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Speaker 6: think the Cowboys would you know, he's he did it

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Speaker 6: as a favor and he showed up well, yeah early

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Speaker 6: in the season. I can understand why they had some

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Speaker 6: of the issues they have. We kind of went through

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Speaker 6: that earlier. But I kind of feel like though that

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Speaker 5: How would you feel as an offshoot? How would you

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Speaker 5: feel if if Mike decided he was going to walk away?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: And uh, and then Al Harris is the guy that

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Speaker 2: they tap.

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Speaker 6: You know what? But yeah, I feel good about Al

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Speaker 6: because I think Al how's the respect to the players,

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Speaker 6: and I think he knows what he's doing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: think he knows what he's doing it and I would

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Speaker 6: hope that the others that were here still in the

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Speaker 6: staff would stay and because I think they have a

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Speaker 6: pretty good group of coaches, you know, considering it was

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Speaker 6: kind of a mesh of two staffs. But you and

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Speaker 6: you could go out. There might be some other guys

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Speaker 6: you want to you know, you want to go. I

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Speaker 6: will say this though, there are some quality coordinators potentially

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Speaker 6: aren't going to be on the market to Corneas. If

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Speaker 6: you look at what happens Robert Sala, you know, do

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Speaker 6: you do?

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Speaker 2: You do?

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Speaker 6: You make a point to go get Robert Sala and

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Speaker 6: then let Al Harrison this group learn with Robert. Robert

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Speaker 6: Salarr will probably want to bring some of these guys.

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Speaker 6: But it's like Mike Zimmer wanted to.

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Speaker 2: What he did out in San Francisco's pretty yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then and then you know, Matt Eberflus is another

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Speaker 6: one that you know the Bears. The Bears were playing

626
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Speaker 6: play good defense. They were just trying to get their offense.

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Speaker 6: They didn't have any offensive linemen and they couldn't. They

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Speaker 6: lost a lot of tough games this year. But Matt

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Speaker 6: Everfluce would be another one. They're going to be some

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Speaker 6: quality defensive coordinators on the street that maybe you could

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Speaker 6: you could say, you know, if Mike McCarthy gets an extension,

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Speaker 6: maybe it is about Al Harris, you know, maybe that's like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I gotta got a couple of years now, and I

634
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Speaker 6: can afford to deal with Al. But I think I

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Speaker 6: would also want to talk to Robert Saling guys like that.

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Speaker 6: If Okay, Derek, I'll go with you on this one, right.

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Speaker 6: Can Tyler Smith be your next Zach Martin?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't see any reason why not.

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Speaker 5: I will say this, I don't think, if my memory

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641
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Speaker 5: career he is as good as Zach was at this

642
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Speaker 5: he immediately was great, like really great.

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Speaker 6: Right off the bat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's also put that in context. He was playing

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Speaker 5: on an offensive line with some pretty great players, right.

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Speaker 2: That helps.

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Speaker 5: And I think right now Tyler is the best of

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Speaker 5: this bunch, and I think there's a sizable gap between

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Speaker 5: him and the next closest person, So I think that

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Speaker 5: does kind of affect him as well. But No, I

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Speaker 5: don't see any reason why he can't be an All

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Speaker 5: of Hall of Fame type player. But you know, he's

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Speaker 5: got to do it obviously, But I think he has

657
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Speaker 5: everything there in front of him.

658
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Speaker 6: Tell me what about that? Do you think that that

659
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Speaker 6: Tyler Smith could be your Zach Martin one day?

660
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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

661
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Speaker 7: And Derek took all the words that I was going

662
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Speaker 7: to use he is out of my mouth. I mean,

663
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Speaker 7: he's been your best offensive lineman this year. I think

664
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Speaker 7: that his versatility is really valuable. If he's a guy

665
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Speaker 7: that if you absolutely need him to play at tackle,

666
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Speaker 7: he can play at tackle for you, and he can

667
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Speaker 7: do it at a high level. And when you know,

668
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Speaker 7: like you mentioned, he's been the best offensive lineman for

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Speaker 7: Dallas this year, and I think he's made Cooper b

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Speaker 7: b better. Yeah, because that's a guy who's, you know,

671
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Speaker 7: for a majority of his time in college played in

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Speaker 7: Tyler Smith's spot right guard, so he's you know, got

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Speaker 7: to learn how to how to work the line, and

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Speaker 7: he's done that pretty well this year. I think your

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Speaker 7: left tackle still, you know, needs some time to develop,

676
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Speaker 7: but again, having a left guard next to you like

677
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Speaker 7: Tyler Smith is going to help with that as well.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you. I think I think he's I

679
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Speaker 6: think he's got the capability I mean, and I think

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Speaker 6: he's got potentially the longevity, you know, And I think

681
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Speaker 6: he's got the temperament. I think he's got the toughness.

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Speaker 6: I think he's got the.

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Speaker 2: Power, leadership, leadership offensive when you when.

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Speaker 6: You talk to him after a game, it's well spoken.

685
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Speaker 5: He's he's just good at giving the right information to

686
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Speaker 5: media at the right time and portraying something for that

687
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 5: offensive line of yeah him continue to fight like I.

688
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Speaker 6: Think that's not really good. He does not sugarcoat anything.

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Speaker 6: But he also is very, very thoughtful about the way

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Speaker 6: he speaks. I appreciate that. Tommy, coming back to you

691
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Speaker 6: on this one, what's your feeling on Jake Ferguson going

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Speaker 6: into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: I think that you know, you certainly wanted to see more.

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Speaker 7: There are some things that raise your eyebrow a little bit,

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Speaker 7: but you also have seen what Jake Ferguson is at

696
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Speaker 7: his best and what he can do for you when

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Speaker 7: he's playing his best ball.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's something that I'm going into

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Speaker 3: the offseason.

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Speaker 7: Thinking like, Okay, do you need to think about maybe

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Speaker 7: taking another tight end or do you need to think

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Speaker 7: about moving on. I don't think we're anywhere near that

703
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Speaker 7: territory yet, but certainly something that you want to watch

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Speaker 7: going forward. And my question with that too is is

705
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Speaker 7: that a byproduct of you've got your backup quarterback playing

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Speaker 7: the majority of the back half of the season. So

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Speaker 7: the good news though, on the other side of that

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Speaker 7: is we've seen a lot of good things from Luke

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Speaker 7: scoten Maker this year. He's definitely taken a step forward.

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Speaker 7: There were points this year whe were like and where

711
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Speaker 7: does he fit in? Brevin spam Ford has showed you

712
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 7: some good things when he's on the field.

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Speaker 3: As well, so that is a good room.

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Speaker 7: Linda Wells is a fantastic coach, so I'm not too

715
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Speaker 7: worried about that room. And I think Dak Prescott coming

716
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Speaker 7: back into the fold is going to make Jake Ferguson

717
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Speaker 7: really the entire offense better.

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Speaker 6: Boss Man, what are you thinking about Jake Ferguson going

719
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Speaker 6: into twenty twenty Shives.

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Speaker 5: I still love Jake Ferguson. I don't think this year

721
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 5: was his best and that's okay. But one thing I

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Speaker 5: will say is I think they got to figure out

723
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Speaker 5: how to get him up feel more. Yeah, particularly up

724
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Speaker 5: the seams. And I think that's something that I.

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Speaker 6: Think Miss Jack.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, we do know that Dak Love

727
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 5: he will use those and he'll take that shot and

728
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 5: put it right where it needs to go because it's

729
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: a scary throw to make very scary.

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Speaker 2: But Dak's not afraid of that throw. But I do

731
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Speaker 2: think that they.

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Speaker 5: Need to get him a little bit more involved downfield,

733
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Speaker 5: particularly up the seams. I think that's where Jake Ferguson

734
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 5: goes from being just an average run of the middle

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Speaker 5: tight end to being a tight end that really is,

736
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Speaker 5: you know, a weapon.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think we've seen a lot of that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it. I get to tap the breaks

739
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 6: on the Kelsey's and the you know and the kittles

740
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Speaker 6: and that I think.

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Speaker 2: But that's a part of like he I don't know

742
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: if he got Daniel's opportunities.

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Speaker 6: Well, I tell you what I was like, Man, Jake Ferguson,

744
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 6: he's gonna he's gonna be on the rise. You know,

745
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 6: you're talking about the top five tight ends in the league.

746
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 6: And yeah, he had injury with the concussions. He's one

747
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 6: of the toughest guys and one of the best run

748
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 6: after catch guys. But I think I'm not going to

749
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Speaker 6: go into twenty twenty five with this massive amounts of

750
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 6: expectations on it or put too much on him.

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Speaker 2: Can I throw this edge?

752
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: If they do what you want them to do and

754
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 5: they go and get a bona fide second receiver that

755
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 5: really is a one A, one B type receiver, do

756
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 5: you think that makes Jake even better? I'd hope so,

757
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: because I think part of this could also be there

758
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 5: really aren't a lot of wide receivers that you have

759
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 5: to pay attention to other than CD on this team,

760
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: which allows teams to do some different things with Jake

761
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 5: to try to take him out of the game.

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Speaker 2: It's what you showed on that film yesterday. You got

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Speaker 2: three guys around Jack Fergus.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you've got more wide receiver threats out there,

765
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Speaker 5: that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't happen. No, not at all. And they and they

767
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Speaker 6: they're going to double and they doubled him on the

768
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Speaker 6: pick six. Yep, you know they said, no, you don't

769
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Speaker 6: have a receiver that could pick Okay. My final question

770
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 6: here for you guys is that let's see which one

771
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Speaker 6: I want to get, because I got several of these. Okay,

772
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Speaker 6: how about this, Derek, The evaluation of Jonathan Mingo is

773
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Speaker 6: unfair because he's not playing with Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: Fair.

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Speaker 5: That is a great that's a I think a good

776
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 5: analysis because I think if you look at the number

777
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 5: of passes that he's gotten and where those passes have been,

778
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Speaker 5: I would venture to say eighty percent of them or

779
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: more have not been on target. They've been low, they've

780
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 5: been too far outside, they've been too high.

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Speaker 6: Not accurate, not accurate.

782
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Speaker 5: He's just he's not getting good balls, and so for

783
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 5: whatever reason, he's not getting good balls that play where

784
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 5: he was opened downfield last week, although I, although I

785
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 5: questioned the call on Think one to go down feel

786
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 5: like that he beat his guy.

787
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Speaker 2: He won the ball just wasn't put in the right place.

788
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: But he beat his guy and he was opened town.

789
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 5: I feel if that ball was on target, it may

790
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 5: have been a touchdown. And so that's where I look

791
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 5: at it, and I say I've seen enough from him,

792
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 5: certainly as a really good blocker, but I've seen enough

793
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 5: from him where I'm like, I want to go into

794
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 5: next year and really get a good evaluation from him,

795
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 5: because I think he might end up being your third

796
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: wide receiver.

797
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: Wins all said and done once you have Dack back.

798
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Speaker 6: How about you, Tommy oh Man.

799
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Speaker 7: I've talked about this about a million times since Jonathan

800
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 7: Mingo got here, and in the press box in Philadelphia

801
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 7: again this week, I'm like, man, when can this guy

802
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 7: get a good ball?

803
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 6: Right? The last time we talked about.

804
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 7: He finally did, but he got that like twelve yard

805
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 7: reception and I think I tweeted out I was like,

806
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 7: that's the first past good pass that Jonathan Mingo's got

807
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 7: a career. And then the next one he got was

808
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 7: that on where the tales had a bounce. I'm just like, Okay,

809
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 7: this poor guy.

810
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Speaker 3: Let's get some help here.

811
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Speaker 7: But no, it's not the first time also that he's

812
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 7: won of one of those routes for sure. I think

813
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 7: back to I think it was the first Philly game

814
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 7: here in Dallas where he be it's his man down

815
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 7: the sideline and Coop of Rush throws on the ball

816
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 7: and it hits off of the defender's helmet and he's

817
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 7: got them beat by you know a yard or two,

818
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 7: it's like, okay, so, uh No, I don't think it's

819
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 7: fair at all. And I think, I really think that

820
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 7: Jonathan Mingo can give you something as a receiver, even

821
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 7: if that is a primary role of being a lead

822
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 7: run blocker. I think that's incredibly valuable. I mean, watching

823
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 7: Monday Night Football last night, for example, you look at

824
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 7: what Ben Johnson does with his wide receivers on the outside,

825
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 7: blocking and making room for their running backs. Man, you

826
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 7: can do the same thing with the Cowboys. With how

827
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 7: good Rico Dawdle is shown you can be after the catch,

828
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 7: and how good Cavante Turpin is after the catch. They're

829
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 7: trying to get him the ball on the outside. A

830
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 7: little bit more so, having a big body like that

831
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 7: who can block off a corner and create running lanes,

832
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 7: especially when it's the fastest guy in the NFL. If

833
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 7: it's Turpin, it's valuable that.

834
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Speaker 2: That's just to me.

835
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Speaker 5: Then when you mentioned you know the Lions, it's to me,

836
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 5: it's a case study in a coach creating a tough

837
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: minded team, right, Like everything they do is tough minded,

838
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 5: and we all we all laughed and joke when he's

839
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 5: talking about bite, kneecaps and all that, like it was

840
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 5: a joke, but the reality is and right, and the

841
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 5: reality is he literally went in there and he was

842
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 5: true about it. It wasn't like it was some fake

843
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 5: you know whatever. He was true about it. And his

844
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 5: team is like you watch them play, they are physical,

845
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 5: they are tough, they are they fight like you can

846
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 5: see the style of football they play being a direct

847
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 5: reflection of what he said he was going to build there.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's that to me, that's.

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Speaker 5: A case study for any coach in football, Like you

850
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 5: can build a tough program, you can build a tough team,

851
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 5: you just gotta build it, and you got to build

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Speaker 5: that because there's a lot of teams in NFL that could.

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Speaker 2: Use that level of toughness. I agree, we're gonna take

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Speaker 2: our final break.

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Speaker 2: Back to the Break, Welcome back. We are in the

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Speaker 2: final segment of The Break.

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Speaker 5: We are alive from this WBC Mortgage studios at the Star.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a couple questions here before we end the show.

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Speaker 5: Here's the big question, and I've gotten this question for

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Speaker 5: the last month, and so I think now it's time

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Speaker 5: for Brian to answer it for the folks out there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, bastard. Ask what when does the Josh Shill

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Speaker 2: start next week?

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Speaker 6: Is it some week next week THANXS week? Yeah, Dereka

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Speaker 6: is nice enough to once ag again, what are yours?

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Speaker 6: First? Like twelve thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Something's got to be more than that, huh.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, man, but it's been fun and I'm

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Speaker 5: It's been a while. It's been a while, but we

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Speaker 5: start back up next week. I think next Tuesday. We

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Speaker 5: actually are going to be starting our full offseason schedule

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Speaker 5: starting on next Monday. Every show that we do, all

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Speaker 5: the podcasts we do, will go once a week, as

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Speaker 5: we normally do during the off season, except for Draft Show.

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Speaker 5: Draft Show will be twice a week on Tuesday and Thursday,

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Speaker 6: Right, looking forward to it next Tuesday. Yeah, we we're

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Speaker 6: I actually started on November ninth. I just I just said,

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Speaker 6: you know what, I'm gonna start looking at players. So

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Speaker 6: we will hit the ground running, and before you know it,

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Speaker 2: All right, great, all right, let's get to the next quest.

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Speaker 5: The next question was Joshua Harkins ask, what or who

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Speaker 5: are you guys really hoping to see in next week's game?

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Speaker 5: Talking about this week's game at this point as we

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Speaker 5: start looking ahead to the offseason.

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Speaker 6: Everybody getting up after every play. Yeah, that's the most

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Speaker 6: important thing. That's the most important thing to me right now.

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Speaker 6: I know you you know there's people talking about wins

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Speaker 6: and losses. You always want to try and win. If

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Speaker 6: they win, great, if they lose, you know whatever. We'll

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Speaker 6: get to the draft show next Tuesday, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 6: We'll do autopsy on Monday, draft show on Tuesday. But

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Speaker 6: I just want everybody to get up. You don't need

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Speaker 6: a major injury the last time, the last game out.

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Speaker 6: You just don't. Because these guys, it's the timetable, the

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Speaker 6: availability for next year, especially, you know, like a key player.

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Speaker 6: But you know, these guys are going to play hard.

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Speaker 6: You know, are they good enough to beat the Commanders?

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Speaker 6: They were a few weeks ago, but this this is

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Speaker 6: a little bit different. The Commanders are kind of on

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Speaker 6: a roll right now. Commanders might be a team of

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Speaker 6: destiny the way that they've been winning games. You know,

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Speaker 6: that might be this playoff team that you don't want

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Speaker 6: to have to face. So be very cautious with their players.

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Speaker 6: You need to finish out strong if you can. But

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Speaker 6: just please let everybody get up after every play. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's the most important thing to me. YEA, yeah, that

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Speaker 6: would be number one for me too. I'd just for

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Speaker 6: the sake of having a different answer. I think you

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Speaker 6: see what Trey Lance can give you this game.

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Speaker 7: I think that Cooper Rush has proven to you that

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Speaker 7: he can be a backup quarterback that wins games if

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Speaker 7: He's done it this year. He hasn't beat the Eagles,

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Speaker 7: that's his kryptonite, but he can still come in and

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Speaker 7: he can win games for you if you need him.

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Speaker 7: You traded a fourth round pick for Trey Lance, and

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Speaker 7: correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but I still don't

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Speaker 7: know what the Cowboys have in train Lance yet. So

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Speaker 7: in this game, especially if you've got the Commanders who

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Speaker 7: ahead and get ready for a round one of the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: Let's just you know, maybe give Jayden and Daniels a

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Speaker 7: quarter or a half just to keep him warm, and say,

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Speaker 7: everybody else, I think Cooper Rush has shown you enough

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Speaker 7: to show that he can be a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But what do you have in Trey Lance?

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Speaker 7: Is this something that you can continue to develop and

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Speaker 7: continue to work on for the future.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was really and I was gonna say, I

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Speaker 5: think that's a fair set thing to say. We don't

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Speaker 5: know what they have in Tree Lance.

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Speaker 2: They know what they have in trade.

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Speaker 5: And here's the other part that I've been I heard

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Speaker 5: been on your your show, Brian g Back. I heard

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Speaker 5: someone say, is it a possibility that maybe they know

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Speaker 5: that Trey Lance is maybe better than what everybody else

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Speaker 5: thinks he is, and maybe they want him back and

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Speaker 5: putting him out there is kind of like what you

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Speaker 5: do in the preseason.

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Speaker 2: I said that, Did you say, Okay, yeah, maybe that's it.

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Speaker 5: Like you put him out there and now you've got

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Speaker 5: bidders this offseason when he's a free agent, whereas you

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Speaker 5: don't put him out there, maybe you have an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to sign him back at a modern price as a

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Speaker 5: backup quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I said that. I said, I was interesting. You said

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Speaker 6: You know, maybe that if all sin Trey Lance plays

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Speaker 6: and has success, people might look at him a different light.

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Speaker 6: Like listen, Mike, he was the first round picking. Maybe

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Speaker 6: people say, well, Colley, you know, the only tape they

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Speaker 6: have of Trey Lance is from preseason. That's the only

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Speaker 6: tape they've got on him. Dallas has practiced him every

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Speaker 6: day for two weeks or for two years. Now, Dallas

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Speaker 6: might think, you know, I just think that they're kind

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Speaker 6: of positioned themselves, like we need a backup quarterback. We

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Speaker 6: think enough for Trey Lance. We're probably going to move

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Speaker 6: on from Cooper Rush, but we need our backup quarterback

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Speaker 6: not to cost us five million dollars like he's cost

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Speaker 6: us right now. We need to cost one million dollars

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Speaker 6: and maybe they can fill Now. I've said that before

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Speaker 6: and people have come at me on Twitter X and said, hey,

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Speaker 6: uh well, why if they're not going to play for

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Speaker 6: that reason, he shouldn't come back. Might not have a choice. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you know, people might be, like you said, might not

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Speaker 6: want to Cowboys. Kind of maybe I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: are not playing him for the chance to get him

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Speaker 6: back cheaper as a backup next year. I really do

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Speaker 6: believe that something about all.

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Speaker 2: Right, we appreciate you guys joining us. Man, We've had

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Speaker 2: a great year with you guys.

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Speaker 5: Even though the product on the field may not have

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Speaker 5: been when we all on it, we've still be a

1046
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Speaker 5: great year. We've had a good time, and so we

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Speaker 5: appreciate you guys joining us. It's always great when we

1048
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Speaker 5: get a chance to sit down and talk for you guys,

1049
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Speaker 5: and then you guys interact with us on social we're

1050
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Speaker 5: able to hear from you and hear what you think

1051
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Speaker 5: of the show and get feedback on things that we

1052
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Speaker 5: can improve on. And trust me, we take those things

1053
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Speaker 5: them every single day.

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Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: We'll be heading into the off season this next week

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Speaker 5: and we'll continue doing what we're doing this offseason. A

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Speaker 5: lot of things that will change for the Cowboys this

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Speaker 5: year this off season, so we'll be covering all of.

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Speaker 2: That and give you our thoughts on all of that,

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Speaker 2: but until Thursday. We won't be on tomorrow. We'll be

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Speaker 2: on on Thursday until Thursday for Tom Yarsh.

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Speaker 5: Brian brought us. I'm Derek Heilton. This has been a

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