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Speaker 1: Paulatino with Super Bowl champion Shawn O'Hara here on the

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Speaker 1: Giants Huddle. Rapid reaction as the Giants knocked off the

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Speaker 1: by the account of twenty two twelve, interesting ball game

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Speaker 1: sewn a number of times, the tide kind of turned

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Speaker 1: ultimately it was a Gary Brightwell recovering a muff punt

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Speaker 1: that really kind of put the nail in the coffin,

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Speaker 1: even though Graham good Old miss the field goal there

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. Yeah, huge playing for the special teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially after the early blunder by Richie James, uh,

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Speaker 1: when he fumbled the power return. So great job by

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Speaker 1: bright Well being Johnny on the spot and jumping on

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Speaker 1: the ball. Uh. You mentioned the momentum, It seemed like

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Speaker 1: the Giants did a great job, you know, scoring early,

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Speaker 1: getting ahead, and then every time it looked like the

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Speaker 1: Bears were gonna get back in and claw back into

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Speaker 1: this game. The Giants shut the door and did a

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Speaker 1: great job of it. Um, I know, special teams wise,

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Speaker 1: Graham Gono, who has been almost a sure thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: that field goal at the end hits the upright and

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Speaker 1: the wind was blown right to left. So still some

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Speaker 1: things to clean up. But for the Giants, very physical

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Speaker 1: and imposing win today against the Bears. All right, before

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Speaker 1: we get into some of the factors of the win,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you was the center you're starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: in this case? Daniel Jones goes out with the spraying ankle.

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor comes in a short time later, he goes

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Speaker 1: out with a concussion, and now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you don't have any quarterbacks on the roster and you're

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Speaker 1: running wildcat. Somehow the Giants survived that. What is going

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Speaker 1: through the minds of the players in that huddle and

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Speaker 1: at the snap when they are forced into this emergency situation, Well,

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Speaker 1: Paul has an offensive linement. You love it because I

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Speaker 1: know we're gonna run the football all right now, We're

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Speaker 1: not throwing the ball with sand in there our quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But I would like to think that when Tyrod came

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Speaker 1: to think that as an online we said, hey, look, Tyrod,

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Speaker 1: like like that's it. We can't. We can't risk you

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Speaker 1: getting hit knocked out of the game. Didn't work, and

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Speaker 1: clearly they didn't have that conversation. But um, going into

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Speaker 1: the game plan in the mindset going in, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's what we saw from this offensive line. They

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Speaker 1: basically took it upon themselves. Hey look, we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: over this game. We're gonna control the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get stake one downhill. And that led to

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Speaker 1: some big runs by Daniel Jones, two of them for touchdowns. Um,

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Speaker 1: I thought that on both sides of the ball. Though

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Speaker 1: Paul guys stepped up. You know a lot of players

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Speaker 1: We saw Evan Neil leave the game, DeBie Henderson filled

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Speaker 1: the fact that Barkley ran for how doing forty six yards,

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Speaker 1: but the team ran for two sixty two overall. Now,

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Speaker 1: But what do you think went right for the run

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Speaker 1: game with that offensive line, because they were much more

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Speaker 1: You know, keep this chage moving. That's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: He's optimistic about playing against Green Bay in London next weekend,

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Speaker 1: to be cleaned up. They had eight penalties against Dallas.

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