WEBVTT - Delinquent w/ Marina Squerciati

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to That's Messed Up n SVU podcast. It's

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<v Speaker 1>another Tuesday. It's another episode. I'm one of your hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>Kara Klink and I'm Liza Traeger.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming to you with SVU True Crime celeb guests.

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<v Speaker 2>And at first, you know, we catch up, we should chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Which the people I meet on the road say is

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<v Speaker 2>their favorite part? They love it.

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<v Speaker 3>They love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, hey, well how is Disney World.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all waiting at the edge of our all got

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<v Speaker 2>our Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 3>We went to the Land.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to the real crock Gator situation. The Disneys. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that is exactly what it is. I think Land is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot smaller, but I honestly, I only go to

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<v Speaker 1>the one side. I only go to the regular Land,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't do California Adventure and Pixar World and

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<v Speaker 1>any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great. We had a wonderful time.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say he originally was like he was so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to go on Tiana's Bayou Adventure, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>old Flash Mountain and is now a different like flume

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<v Speaker 1>ride that's like you know in her and his friend

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<v Speaker 1>from school heard we were going to Disney and gave

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<v Speaker 1>me ponchos, like I came prepared extra clothes in case

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<v Speaker 1>we got wet.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I want to do that first.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the fast pass thing because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not waiting in line with like a three year old,

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<v Speaker 1>like a four year old.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, he's gonna be pissed. So we zoom

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<v Speaker 1>ahead at Tiana's. It's the first ride we go on.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get there, we're they're early and we but

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<v Speaker 1>we do have to like we are like cutting in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a lot of people, not cutting but doing

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning thing, and when we get to the front,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also a bunch of people behind us, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do this ride anymore. And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to. Like we're in a cave right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even know how to get out of here

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<v Speaker 1>if we wanted to, Like, we have to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the ride. So he's like I don't want it. When

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<v Speaker 1>he's like whiny. I'm like, what is going on? So

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<v Speaker 1>we go on the ride. He hates it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna love it. Once we're on, he's gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 1>He hates it, he gets off, he goes. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not like that, and he wanted to go home. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it scary or boring or crowded or hot? What was it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he liked the water, the wetness, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's like he was made very aware, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>were at the La County Fair the week before and

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't go on the flume ride and he was

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<v Speaker 1>so pissed. And I was like, honey, we're going on

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<v Speaker 1>a flume ride together in a week at Disney. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, gotcha. I'm also learning what flume ride

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<v Speaker 1>is today. I mean, yeah, I know I call it

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<v Speaker 1>a log the log, the log, the water ride, or

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<v Speaker 1>like a wet ride, Like I didn't know there was

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<v Speaker 1>a term for it. And ever I'm in a log

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<v Speaker 1>heading towards water. Yeah, I feel like it's a flume.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's I don't know, what an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I've picked up god knows where and have been

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<v Speaker 1>saying forever. So he hated that he was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go home. He's like, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>home and watch Elena of Avalore, which is like this

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<v Speaker 1>little princess show on Disney. And I was like, no, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going home. I spent so much money on

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<v Speaker 1>this time. And then we had a great day. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing is he doesn't he's not scared. We went on

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<v Speaker 1>thunder Mountain. He was the smallest kid on thunder Mountain

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<v Speaker 1>by a mile, Like there were no little kids on

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<v Speaker 1>thunder Mountain.

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<v Speaker 3>He went on it. He loved it. He loves a

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<v Speaker 3>roller coaster.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just something about that Bayou Adventure that he

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<v Speaker 1>was not vibing with, Like I don't know the wetness

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I don't know what it is. But he

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<v Speaker 1>had a great time. Dumb We did Dumbo. We did Dumbo.

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<v Speaker 1>We did the Little story Land ride where you get

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<v Speaker 1>to see like Minnie Arundel, mini Agroba, like all the

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<v Speaker 1>different like miniature worlds of the Disney peep up Disney characters.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did I mean we did so much stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like we went on a million rides. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you guys eat well? And what did you buy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You buy?

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<v Speaker 1>I brought lunch for him, But I for myself had

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<v Speaker 1>a like what they call their cheese flopover.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a pizza. I don't know why they call

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<v Speaker 3>it a flopover or something like that. Wait, why'd you

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<v Speaker 3>bring him lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he does not give a shit about eating out

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Like he scarfed that lunch and loved every

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<v Speaker 1>second of it. Like I just was like he because

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<v Speaker 1>like I was like, I'm gonna have to go around

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<v Speaker 1>and find a place that has like the chicken that

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<v Speaker 1>he likes, and it's gonna be a fifty dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>he's there and then he's gonna say, I hate this chicken,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I was just like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>bringing his lunch and he loved it. And I bought

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<v Speaker 1>him a treat, like I bought him a Mickey sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>pop or whatever. And he loved that US ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich like on a stick. And then for his gift

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<v Speaker 1>that he was allowed to pick out, he picked out

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<v Speaker 1>an aerial bubble wand he went with Ariel, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>bubble wand like we walked all around the store and

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<v Speaker 1>he laid eyes on that thing and was like that's mine.

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<v Speaker 1>And he literally wouldn't change his mind. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at everything, and he was like, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want?

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<v Speaker 3>So did he?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>We waited in line for the princess encounter, right like,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to this little castle and you meet two

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<v Speaker 1>to three princesses.

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<v Speaker 3>We only met two.

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<v Speaker 1>He acts like, he acts like a total shy, freaked

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<v Speaker 1>out baby around any of these princesses that are not Elsa.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't tell you what princesses are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in there. So we were at a party once

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<v Speaker 1>where there was a girl dressed up as Ariel and

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<v Speaker 1>it was literally the same girl who had dressed up

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<v Speaker 1>the year before as Elsa at a party and he

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<v Speaker 1>loved her. Her dressed as Ariel, he was freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't go near her, he wouldn't talk to her.

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<v Speaker 1>She kept being like, hello, my little friend, and he

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<v Speaker 1>like would not talk to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, So is it because he only likes Elsa.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just not intimidated by Elsa, but the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>her too intimidating?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what is it? I don't know what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>He literally, if Elsa's at a party, he had Elsa

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<v Speaker 1>paint his face, He'll go up talk to an Elsa.

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<v Speaker 1>We were at a party where we weren't invite We

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<v Speaker 1>were at the park and it was a party we

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<v Speaker 1>were not invited to, and my kids were crouched behind

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<v Speaker 1>a bush watching Elsa do her thing like little spies

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<v Speaker 1>like they are. She He is so into Elsa and

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<v Speaker 1>I was, And so we go into this princess encounter

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<v Speaker 1>on the first person we see is Cinderella. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>as familiar, but he loves beautiful princess.

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<v Speaker 3>He shit, wouldn't speak to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like in my arms, like like, wouldn't talk to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the next one was snow White, same deal, No thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. We took a little photo with snow White, but

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll share it, but it was he was not happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if it had been Elsa, he would have been like,

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<v Speaker 1>I brought you something to bring back to Arundel, how's

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<v Speaker 1>all love? Like he would have had a million questions

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to her. But there's something about any other

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<v Speaker 1>princess that's not Elsa that he's just turned off.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, but kid's minds, Yeah, how would you compare the adventures?

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<v Speaker 2>Who would you do if you could only bring one

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<v Speaker 2>kid back? Are you taking Rosie or oscar Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I enjoyed more just going one on

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<v Speaker 1>one with a kid than like last time. We went

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<v Speaker 1>with like a friend and two other little girls. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's just it's just organizing more people and like, Okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>does anyone have to pee? And who wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>here for lunch and whatever? And with like with one kid,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a lot easier and it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>like the whole thing is pretty doable.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems crazy. I am like shocked at how.

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<v Speaker 1>How every single person is wearing merch there, like for Disney, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that's not shocking. Disney's so popular, it's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, but it's like I was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a plane tank top and I was probably the only

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<v Speaker 1>person I could see for a mile not wearing something branded,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it wasn't branded something Disney, it was branded

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<v Speaker 1>something else like cartoon.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like everybody was just.

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<v Speaker 1>Wearing so many ears, Like it just seemed like more

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<v Speaker 1>than last time for some reason. But also I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I went at the time of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of grad trips. I think there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>senior grad trips, a lot of matching t shirts, matching ears,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I don't know why, but I just I

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly why. We probably talked about it. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the meme of the snake from Robin Hood

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<v Speaker 2>crossing his arms, and it's just so cute that a

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<v Speaker 2>snake has arms to cross.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, I haven't watched that Little Fox in a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and I watched it a couple of days ago. Boyd

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<v Speaker 2>is it. It is the best cartoon ever. It really

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<v Speaker 2>is so good. The animation is so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>The little bunny is like I just forgot about how

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<v Speaker 1>funny it is and how cuy. Yeah, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then of course I'm looking up his merch,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So I'm like, it's mister his merch. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, they definitely have something hiss that luxury lounge

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<v Speaker 1>fly right. Oh my god, I didn't even look at there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a good idea. They've got to have his stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but it was just on Etsy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a whole It's like a set of baseball

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<v Speaker 2>jerseys that you could put your own name on, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's his, you know, the Madeline.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the girl's name? The girl lady made Marian. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the rooster like little John. And it's like all these

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<v Speaker 1>jerseys and I was like, oh my god, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Disney with a group where Rob Murl's

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<v Speaker 1>softball team. Right now, it's just like I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I have to have a bachelorette party

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone has to be wearing a Robin Hood baseball jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you did things I've watched.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched The Be the Better Sister, Jessica Biel, Elizabeth Banks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that a movie or a TV show? It's

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<v Speaker 1>five episodes, it's on Amazon. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the one of the bald guys from House of

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<v Speaker 2>Li House of Cards, isn't it who I like?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know who I'm talking about. He was Elijah

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<v Speaker 1>has sex with him? Yeah, oh, Corey Stole, I know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly talking about. But there are like several bad bald

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<v Speaker 1>guys on House of Cards. True, yes, But I was

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<v Speaker 1>into it. I mean yeah, I was into it. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched it all. I liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is and it's the detective woman from Gone

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<v Speaker 2>Girl playing the exact same part.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, Yeah, it's just her formula rope right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very thriller, very slow, and like every like ten

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen minutes there's a reveal or a secret or

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<v Speaker 2>like you find the thing, and the foreshadowing is just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, within the first ten minutes, they zoom in

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<v Speaker 2>on a pocket knife and you're like, well, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>seeing this pocket knife again for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I feel like Jessica Biel's really like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of found this niche.

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<v Speaker 3>Now she's producing all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just that she did The Sinner, which was like

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<v Speaker 1>no one would cast her, I don't think. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>The Sinner was really different for her, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like since The Sinner she's just like, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do these, I'm gonna do these like twisty like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of prestigie things and she I mean, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch that inredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there was one actress from Orange is the New

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<v Speaker 2>Black that I recognized to Lorraine Toussaint. Oh, and Gloria

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<v Speaker 2>Rubin's in it, duh. And another Orange guy, Michael Hornet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There, it was good. I guess I would say it

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<v Speaker 2>was good. Oh my god. Fredrick Weller is definitely SV

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, let me I got a scroll.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see what episode, Let's see what up.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lorraine Tusston is So she's such a scary like

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<v Speaker 1>character on Orange's New Black.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, she is. This guy was in tortured.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the girl, the boyfriend, the boyfriend in torture isn't whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, I was gonna ask you, have you already gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the Marishka thing at Tribecca that you were going on?

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually let's say, I am not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in town for that anymore, so you should, So people

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<v Speaker 2>should DM me. I have one ticket for that Friday

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<v Speaker 2>the thirteenth, which is at Carnegie Hall like sixth row

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<v Speaker 2>with a Q and A.

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<v Speaker 3>I have one ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next day I have one ticket to

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<v Speaker 2>the East Village Cinema here on second half and like

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<v Speaker 2>eleventh or twelfth Street or something. And it's still part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Tribecca Film Festival.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't so.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet Marishka will stop in, but it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>as official as like the Godget premiere of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't drink if someone wants to DM me, because

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<v Speaker 2>I've asked a few sv fans that I know, But

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<v Speaker 2>people are you know, Friday Saturday, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, our business people are working.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just wondering, because I've been getting all of

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<v Speaker 1>these spoilers about it, should I bring it? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's like there there's all this press about it and

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<v Speaker 1>all this we well, the press is the press. You

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<v Speaker 1>can mention the press that her bio dad is not

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<v Speaker 1>her bio dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what you're like? Yes? That like the big

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<v Speaker 3>like reveal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the huge reveal is that she literally pulls off

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<v Speaker 1>her Olivia Benson outfit and she's wearing a sequence outfit,

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<v Speaker 1>and she tells us that Mickey hargatea her father who

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<v Speaker 1>we thought is her father forever. He's in the episode

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<v Speaker 1>where the where the dick gets cut off. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>that episode, and he's not her dad. It's really a comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>Her dad was like a stand up comedian in like

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic City or like the thing I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>about it, because they mentioned this on this other podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to, Like was kept calling him a comedian

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<v Speaker 1>and saying that she went like that he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a comedy show in Atlantic City.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, I'm assuming it's stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what like maybe he's an improviser or

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<v Speaker 1>a juggler, but like I'm assuming he's a stand up

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<v Speaker 1>this man but so interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to see all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the trailer, it's very much her being like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wanted to be a departure from my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't want to be what she was, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also have no memories of her, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>her kind of finally able to dig in and like

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<v Speaker 2>learn about her mom. And I wish I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to go, and I have a great seat,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also hard to get rid of one ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess people aren't as used to doing things on

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<v Speaker 2>their own people. I know I'm not going to take

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<v Speaker 2>off work to do that, but it's worth it. Well

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<v Speaker 2>because I know two people that are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in front of me at the Carnegie Hall, so

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<v Speaker 2>you could talk to them if you take my ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Take my ticket. I did also see I went to

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<v Speaker 2>see Gypsy with Azura McDonald's and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would say, if you can, she's done June thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was. I mean, I'm going to cry even

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about it. It was one of the greatest things I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it was beyond It was the best acting performance

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. And then after this like very emotional song,

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<v Speaker 1>full standing ovation for minutes, and she's fully in character.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she had bodies these I've never seen anything

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<v Speaker 1>like it, honestly, like and then the one who plays

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<v Speaker 1>like the actress who plays her daughter's amazing. All the

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<v Speaker 1>kid actors there's a dog, you know, but like the choreography,

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<v Speaker 1>the singing, everything, it was like top to bottom, like

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<v Speaker 1>the best Broadway experience I've ever had in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe you went to go see it too.

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<v Speaker 3>In the midst of the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that added to it because because I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see it, and then once the Tony drama

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<v Speaker 2>started and I was like, wait, I gotta get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, wait, the Tonys are happening,

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<v Speaker 2>like post Tony's might be crazy. I gotta go, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta fucking see her, and I have to, and

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense this this woman has like six Tonies, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it was gonna be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I knew people that went and were like moved,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I have friends that are like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hard to move that were removed, and so that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I knew. But I've never seen anything like And then

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<v Speaker 2>hours later because then, of course, I mean the show's

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<v Speaker 2>at seven, and then I of course had a twelve

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<v Speaker 2>forty five spot at the cellar, so I was out

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<v Speaker 2>like pretty late. And hours later someone comes up to

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<v Speaker 2>me and goes, are you okay? I go, what They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like you're crying, and I go, I have

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<v Speaker 2>been crying. And hours later because every time I started

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it to someone, I started to cry choked up.

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<v Speaker 2>It just is like it's just someone that transcends every

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<v Speaker 2>time in space because they are so of I've really

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<v Speaker 2>never seen anything like it, and I've seen I go

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<v Speaker 2>to the theater and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you know what I mean, Yeah, you're seeing it,

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<v Speaker 3>You're seeing stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never I've never seen gypsy period, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>never seen Sally.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know the story and I kind of liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew, like I because of the zeit guys, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I knew a little bit or whatnot, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't look into anything. I also was sitting on the

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<v Speaker 2>aisle in orchestra and she comes out through the aisle

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<v Speaker 2>and she was standing right next to me, so I

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<v Speaker 2>got to, Oh my god, I like guess but also

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<v Speaker 2>like the Orc. Electra was so good, like everyone was

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<v Speaker 2>just it just really was stellar. And then I all

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<v Speaker 2>just more and more content. But I also saw Sinners.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to see Sinners.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and worth all the hyphen two thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to see it in seventy millimeter love

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<v Speaker 1>love love storytelling why we go to the movies, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>It's how I felt with the Substance. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like different and better than substance in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, this is the movies. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>movies should be, Like what the we come to this

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<v Speaker 1>place for magic?

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<v Speaker 3>This is what we're half. But that's how I felt.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching Sinners, just loving it, and you'd, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not you should just go.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know there's no blood for an hour

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<v Speaker 3>and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I know my my one friend goes. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that big of a deal. You could handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's becoming like hereditary. I have to go

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<v Speaker 1>see it. Everyone's talking about it. I gotta go that.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, there's just so much beauty outside of whatever scary

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<v Speaker 2>ends up happening, Like there's scary modes, but it's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>not a horror film in any way, Okay, And there's

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<v Speaker 2>cool historical content context and like great acting, great visuals, sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one scene on the dance floor that I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen in movies ever in my life. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>jaw dropping. And it's two hours and fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had a medium diet coke and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to pee at all.

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<v Speaker 3>What the it flew by like you you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was also sitting like my arms crossed

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<v Speaker 1>on the seat in front of me, like I really.

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<v Speaker 3>Loved it, like I were like it forward, like really

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<v Speaker 3>leaning in.

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<v Speaker 1>Just such good acting and line he wrote such a

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<v Speaker 1>the dialogue's awesome, but it really and then Michael B.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan like his arms are just sexy, like it is

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. Yeah, he's really hot. But the music's

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<v Speaker 3>so good. Oh, the music so good. Yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was it was all right, I'm gonna watch wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Question about Audra McDonald though, does her bio in the

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<v Speaker 1>program say SVU, because is famously the therapist at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of season one that tries to get them all

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<v Speaker 1>committed and gets Jeffries fired.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll grab my my playbill and in the out in

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<v Speaker 2>the our post mortem, all of you will find out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but to be able to see like Beyonce, someone at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of their game, and then Audra really like

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<v Speaker 2>in her fucking bag like it was yeah, adible, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and just walking around the city, and even afterwards, just

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<v Speaker 2>walking around Times Square seeing all the ads and people

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<v Speaker 2>with other playbills, I'm like, wow, I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these shows. I'm like so cultured. I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt really cool. And I hope I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>Tonys are this weekend. I hope Audre wins, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope Cola Scolo wins something.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is making it sound like Cole's Tony is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in the I don't want to jinx anything, but

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone's kind of like that's I mean, Timothy and

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<v Speaker 1>Kylie were just there, like, let's wrap it up. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not that they're the arbiters of but like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>That they're winning this Tony. But it is so weird,

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<v Speaker 2>so who knows, you never know. I'm not familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tony World, like how they usually vote or where

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<v Speaker 1>they go, Yeah, what they do, because you know, Wicked

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<v Speaker 1>lost famously to Avenue Q.

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<v Speaker 2>But like right, or you're in town something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Avenue Q. But so I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the culture of Tony's as much. You know, I'm more

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<v Speaker 2>of a I'll go to the hips shows. But there

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<v Speaker 2>was sas so like the Sunset Boulevard Theaters across the

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<v Speaker 2>street from Gypsy and they had sassy signage it said

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<v Speaker 2>the most nominated revival. And it's like it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>how many signs or how many nominations, none of you

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<v Speaker 2>will ever do what Audra McDonald did on that stage,

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Like Nicole Scherzinger, you wish.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh have you seen that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, And I'm not going to she's a Trumper, Like

0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 2>obviously there's Trumpers everywhere and they're a part of our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And I work for Trumpers at times, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not one hundred percent, but I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>some I'm not going. Yeah, I'm not going to someone's

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<v Speaker 2>show that benefits off gay people while like actively being

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<v Speaker 2>a Trumper.

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<v Speaker 3>Go fuck yourself. Yeah yeah, yeah, I hear you go.

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<v Speaker 3>But also my friend who's very theater theater.

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<v Speaker 2>She has seen Gypsy out twice but val she's a

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<v Speaker 2>manager at the Seller, but she loves theater. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about this and I go, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I just have to go see Nicole just to like

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<v Speaker 2>compare who wins or whatnot to have contact.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>All the clips I've seen, it's Nicole singing at the audience,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no acting going on, like Audra is singing so

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<v Speaker 2>deep in character she's not even there, and she stays

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<v Speaker 2>in full character during the standing ovations like it.

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<v Speaker 3>It really blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>So just that comment she made of like, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>you can bell like Nicole can sing, but like there

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<v Speaker 2>is this added element of this incredible actress as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the clip of Emily Wilson, the comedian

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<v Speaker 1>Honey where she was on America Got Talent? Was the

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<v Speaker 1>live show at Alesion? Oh yeah, seen it and.

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<v Speaker 2>I posted about it, And I mean, now I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>off about Audre. I hope my words still are valid

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<v Speaker 2>because I love stuff so much. I was thoroughly impressed

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<v Speaker 2>by her show. I loved Emily Wilson's show. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it live I thought, like her song original songs with

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<v Speaker 2>the the video she plays and how it's organized is great.

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<v Speaker 1>I had like a great time seeing it, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. Sorry. The only reason I bring it up

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<v Speaker 1>is because, like you obviously know this, but for our listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>she goes on America's Got Talent as like a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old with this guy and her name's Emily and

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<v Speaker 1>his name's Austin and they're awesome together, like awesome, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the judges, including Nicole Scher singer, are basically

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<v Speaker 1>like except actually Simon Cowell was kind of nice and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of them were like, we believe in Austin.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Emily.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like so funny and like she does this

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<v Speaker 1>amazing like comedy routine where she shows the clips to

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<v Speaker 1>it and like I obviously just saw the clip online,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just posted a special on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>She self produced a special that she made at Bell House.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want to watch the whole show, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's on Oh it's on YouTube. Go check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an unpaid plug for Emily Wilson's one person

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<v Speaker 1>show or comedy special. Sorry, not one person show on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, we should get started.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is what I was, we should but so

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<v Speaker 2>but I started a fight at the cellar. There was

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<v Speaker 2>someone that was annoying me, and so I owe, I

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<v Speaker 2>said something bitchy and everyone heard. You know, I said

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<v Speaker 2>something bitchy and then it kind of like I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of shut someone up a little bit, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>tried to get back, but I was I took out

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<v Speaker 2>my playbill as people.

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<v Speaker 3>Then people started arguing because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Caused chaos, and then to me, just like put He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you're gonna read your playbill passive aggressively, go

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<v Speaker 2>fuck yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, He goes.

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<v Speaker 1>They all say the same thing, stop put that playbill down,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, okay, okay, but I was reading the playbill after

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<v Speaker 3>I said.

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<v Speaker 2>Something, Okay, we're starting the episode and it's all right,

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<v Speaker 2>and one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my favorite guests, I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is a good episode, So don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know the usual checkout that's messed up live

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<v Speaker 1>dot com for Lisa's tour dates and you can check

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<v Speaker 1>out our merch And I'm in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Come to fucking Atlanta, you guys. I'm in Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte next week. And you know you beg me and

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<v Speaker 2>the tickets come on bye to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>They're avail.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go get them all right, let's get started, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be doing Delinquent Season twelve, episode twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan okay and okay, Yeah, came out in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>I am excited. Old school, old school. Yeah, the final,

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<v Speaker 1>the final Maloney season. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's moments I remember of this, but overall it

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<v Speaker 2>was like kind of exciting, and I didn't really know

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<v Speaker 2>everything that was gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't seen this one in a minute, so I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked this one. Yeah, And Delinquent's a fun word.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to start calling people that out

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<v Speaker 2>and about this. It's a good audience members, you fucking delinquent.

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Fucking delinquents, degenerate delinquents. But it's funny because when you

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>hear when I hear delinquent, I'm always like, oh, is

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<v Speaker 1>that which of the young psychopathic twelve year olds?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this about? You know? Like I always think it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>The little kids that are like sorry, sir, Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>the one that Collaglaughlin shoots from like conscience or like

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>even the little psycho from Juvenile like Juvenile and delinquent.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, I get confused when I hear.

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<v Speaker 2>The title, Oh yeah, ye ah, but you yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a bad detention style kid. I don't think

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 2>there's an episode called detention, but maybe next year. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a rom com start to the episode. Really,

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like post date. It's a guy and girl. She's

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<v Speaker 2>against the like she's against the wall. They're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make out, and then like a street lamp light is

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<v Speaker 2>coming through.

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<v Speaker 3>The windows, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, Yankees are Mets and she's Yankees.

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 3>She asks what's your favorite movie?

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<v Speaker 2>He says Casa Blanca, and I'm like, get a life,

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you fucking work. You haven't seen a better movie in

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five years. What you was my brother's favorite movie

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<v Speaker 2>when he was like sixteen. Him and his girlfriend used

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it all the time. It's so embarrassing. I

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>can't even believe that. I think it's a red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she's even more boring. She goes Godfather one

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<v Speaker 2>and two and it's like, I don't know, I want

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 2>to know who wrote this, but yeah, so she looks

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.640
<v Speaker 2>at his hand and goes, oh, no, wedding ring tanline.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're flirting, they're holding hands. He's been divorced three years,

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<v Speaker 2>no kids. And then when they're finally leaning into kiss,

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 2>she asks political affiliation and he says Republican and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the deal breaker. So she pushes him off and he's like,

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 2>oh what why you're a Democrat. And then he does

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 2>you know the famous quote of like if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Republican before thirty, you don't have a heart, and then

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 2>if after thirty, you don't have a brain. And so

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>she's like, well, I'm thirty four. So now he's calling

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 2>her old and dumb. So this is done. He asks

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<v Speaker 2>to use her bathroom and before he heads cross town

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<v Speaker 2>and then we open. He opens the door and she

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<v Speaker 2>calls him an idiot because he opens the wrong door.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, the other left, you fucking moron, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>at least I was honest.

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<v Speaker 3>How old is your kid? Annie?

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<v Speaker 2>And she's confused because she's not a liar, and she

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<v Speaker 2>opens the door and asks is like, what are you

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 2>talking about? And then a young teen boy in pink

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<v Speaker 2>silk bloomers is in her bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Wors is so funny.

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 2>They're really puffy, like they're sure that's something like a

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 2>sexy look, like you can't really wear those as panties

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:13.199
<v Speaker 2>or under it's not so music shocking music plays. She

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>gasps an amazing gasp, and we have Maloney and Bells

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 2>are walking the teen and handcuffed, and she then screamed,

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 2>which I guess woke this guy up. But the date

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 2>brought him in the Republican and he's fourteen, and he

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<v Speaker 2>says that he was drinking for the first time, got drunk,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 2>and he's really sorry, Okay, I don't trust you. Benson

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 2>joins the chat. She wants scoop, so they fill her in.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy's name is Hunter Masalon. He was like naked

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>in this woman's bed with the Bloomers and he wants

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 2>to explain it, and they're like, no, we need your

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<v Speaker 2>parent present.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 3>You're a child.

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 2>A night watchman did call his mom, who said let

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 2>him spend the night in jail and learn a fucking lesson.

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, well, now you know why I was

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>driven to drink. And so Annie runs into the precinct.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 2>She is the Democrat and she just right into the

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>precinct center of the office, finger pointed right at him,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 2>and she screams to everyone that kid try to rape me,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 2>and he says, don't flatter yourself, lady, and she's pissed.

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Bellzer is holding her back and she's like, I found

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 2>your bag in my closet with a bottle of whiskey.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 2>You were trying to attack me. So Benson grabs the

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 2>bag and they find a ninth grade science book, duct tape, pantyhose,

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and a knife and he's like, you said, yeah, delinquent,

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 2>smartass over confident always has a comeback, And we go

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>into the credits and we open back up on Stabler

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>being like, then, why were you in the closet and

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>he wants to throw him.

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 3>In a cell.

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Stabler hates the sky, so the kid is like, bring it,

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and then Stabler goes, I'm so annoyed. I have to

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>treat you like a kid, like you should be charged

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>with an adult. But here we go. So they go

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>up into this other room since he can't be in

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>a cell, and he puts them up against the wall

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and starts to handcuff him, and then I'm like shocked.

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 2>This boy starts screaming. He's like, hey, that's not cool.

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Don't touch me there. I need an adult in here.

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Quit touching my junk. And then a uniform cop runs in,

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here? And Stabler tells the uni like,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, well he thinks he's fucking smart and funny.

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>And then Stabler asks like, why would you yell that?

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, sorry, it was just freaked out. It's

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>my first time being arrested. Sailor's pissed. He's not trying

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>to grab this kids junk. He's so fucking mad, and

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you have enough charges against you. I don't

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 2>think you need false accusations and he continue, you know,

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 2>he responds again like it was a joke. It was

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 2>a joke. Staylor's like, we're gonna wait for the mom.

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>But then the uniform cops like should I stay in here?

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 2>And Stabler go ask the kid, like it's up to you.

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel fine, but he should have just had someone

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 2>say or like done something, but he was just like annoyed.

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>He let the kid say it was a joke. And

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 2>then the uniform cop leaves, and then who do we have?

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>The mom runs in. It's Rita fucking Wilson. I can't

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>believe it.

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 3>For me.

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Rita Wilson is the movie now. And then yeah, and

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>the show girl, Yes, do you have any memory?

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yes?

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And also for me weirdly just producing my big factory wedding,

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>like I just I associate her with that movie so much.

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>But yes, girls, I mean now and then I only

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>watched recently with you with you, But I I'm trying

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to think, what else do I think of Rita Wilson

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>from Lots of Shit? And now she's a singer. She

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>sings up the Carlisle in New York all the time.

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, but yeah, I'm like, yeah, but.

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>She's Do you believe that her and Tom Hanks are

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 2>giant pedophiles in Hollywood that are trying to escape to grease?

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe that they are drinking adrinachrome in their coffee

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>every single morning.

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, no, of course, I mean, are you kidding? How insane? Wait?

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>How wild? Rita Wilson's born name is Margarita A brahmav.

0:30:55.560 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I braham Off. Excuse me, yeah, Margarita brahm Off. Okay,

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 3>tell me more. I don't know. That's just what I'm

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 3>getting on her. So where is she from?

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Well it's Bulgarian and Greek, Okay, I think that's why

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>she did that. Yeah, she got Greek citizenship in twenty nineteen,

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and she's that's why she is like, you know, close

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>with uh neovardalas svu alum.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 5>God.

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>She's been working for such a long time. She has

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>so many credits. Her first credit is an episode of

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>The Brady Bunch. Woyah, Rita, she was in Hawaii five,

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh bj and the Bear. Cheech and Chong's next movie,

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Bosom Buddies, like all these like seventies.

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Whit did they meet on bodies? Maybe I did.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I only just realized recently that Chet is their only

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>kid together. I didn't know that Colin has a different mom.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I just found that out recently. I mean, what are

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>your feelings on Chet? I have no feelings towards I

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>liked this episode of him on Z Way. Yeah, I laugh.

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>But he's obviously, you know, a disturbed young man.

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he's also dropped the petois, which I think

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>is a good move for him. He's not doing that anymore,

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>so that's a good thing. But just a fool Yeah,

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Rita Wilson plays dancer in the movie teen,

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>which which is one of my favorite movies of all time.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh Sleepless in Seattle. I always remember her from as well. Yeah,

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>she's a she's a classic. But this episode of s

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>for you too. Yeah, but I always forget. It's not

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'm like, I only think now and then. I

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>guess I thought she just had a different career and

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>we would have like a lot to I thought you

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>would have some movie that's your family.

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I really kind of.

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>From the eighties something you were gonna quote like, I

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 2>really didn't anticipate.

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>No, I sadly like, she's just kind of in my life,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>but there's nothing iconic to me, Like, yeah, I guess

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>just being plus one on the red carpet. That's rude

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to me. She's just Tom Hanks's wife, you know what

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean. No, Like I think she's great, it's just like,

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what, she's obviously not the guests for this episode.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>If you're I love her, Yeah, I love her in

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>The Chum Scrubber that's a movie she was in called

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>The Chum Scrubber Thing.

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's complicated.

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>She's in a bunch of my you know, I like

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>those movies, those kind of later in life romances.

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and we're back, so we're done with our

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 2>rita Wilson kind of report. I guess we don't really

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 2>care that much about her. Okay, so no, I love

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 2>no one. Then okay, I can't say that movie name again.

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 2>So she is no nonsense. Rita's character in this uh,

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not gonna learn the character's name. We will

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>be calling her Rita Wilson throughout the entirety, and by

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>we I mean me. Okay, so well her name, her

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>character's name is Breeze, which is like fun a funny,

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>like mom horn, yeah, yeah, yeah, And she has a

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Karen vibe. She wants us, she wants her son. She's

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.399
<v Speaker 2>being annoying. She goes sex crimes, What is this? Why

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 2>would a child prank be here? And she thinks this

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 2>is all insane. Her son couldn't have done that. And

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>we find out that he lied about where he was

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and he was supposed to be working on a science

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 2>project with some kid, you know. So they go to

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the dork's house and this dork is so cute. I

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.240
<v Speaker 2>really like him, and he's like, the science fair is Monday.

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 3>We're screwed.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like like that freak would have even helped you.

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>And Munch was like, fuck your science fair. We have

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a crime to solve, and he's like whatever. Hunter is

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>always high and leaves early, and the dad is like,

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>so bad. He's like, why are you friends with a

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>boy like that? He goes, we're not friends. We're the

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>only two losers without a partner. They paired us up

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and like, I love how self aware this kid is.

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 3>He knows he's a loser. He's now paired up with

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 3>this maniac.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 2>His dad's a bully, and so Annie's a neighbors so

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>they all live kind of near each other, so that

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 2>they saw Annie last night and that Hunter made sexual

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 2>gestures her way, and they're doing a mummy project disgusting,

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and they could have gotten a dead frog to Mamma Fi,

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>but he said no and wanted a live frog, and

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>then he killed the frog, and Finn says, drum roll,

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>that's messed up. So he says it about just like

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>wanting to kill a live frog, not a dead frog,

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's pretty like I don't know, I

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>like it. So yeah, so this guy's associo obviously animal cruelty.

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>And then the dad is like, why didn't you stop him?

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, I stopped him from killing our cat

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>is that enough. Dad, Like, what the fuck? I can't

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 2>wait till this dork gets to go to college. Yeah,

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, he's gonna go to college, he's gonna

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>invent a fucking app and make a billion.

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Dollars to be like, fuck you.

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Dad, Fuck this dad stopping friends with Maybe if your

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>kid was in a dork, he wouldn't have to be

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 2>with around this guy, but he doesn't have options, and

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 2>that's on you. So Rita Wilson's in cement room bars

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>and she's screaming that her son wouldn't do this, you know,

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>classic boy mom. And she starts blaming the door because

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 2>she's like, I bet it was Jake's idea, and it's

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>like we've seen Jake.

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't his idea. He walks in with.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Stabler and call and and so Hunter calls her Brie,

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, hey, Brie, and she walks up to

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>him and gives them one of the strongest slaps I've

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>ever seen in this show's history or in the running.

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.439
<v Speaker 2>This is a show about like abuse, so maybe there's

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 2>more slaps, but like, this was an intense, hard slap. Yeah,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 2>an open hand, clear across the face, classic slab so

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>big slap. They hold her and Rita's like, my mom

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>beat me with a belt, so whatever, I guess I

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>should have hit him more.

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>And and he.

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Does say that this is the first time he's been

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 2>slapped by her, that she usually just like it's verbal abuse.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 2>And then Benson goes, well, you know, because people who

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 2>hit their kids have low IQ's, which amen, and she says, well,

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 2>I got beat and I'm a marketing executor. And so

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I don't I don't know. I don't know

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 2>if she misunderstood or I misunderstood what Benson was saying.

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought she said, who people who beat their kids

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 2>are dumber? Or was she trying to say, like kids

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 2>that are beat are dumber and that's why she's a

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>marketing exec Or was it the point that she misunderstood

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>it and she is a fool, So a lot of

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 2>options here.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I took it as Benson was like, people that hit

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>their kids have lower IQs, and she was like, yeah, well,

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>and her response was I got beat.

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm a marketing exec so yeah, you're right. I think

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 2>it says that she's done. I think her point, yes,

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 2>she's dumb. Yeah yeah. So then the sun goes you know,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 2>it's always about breath. It's always about her and her

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>being a marketing exec. And she turns around and goes, no,

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>it's about your father abandoning us when you were a baby.

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 2>And then she lunges at him and they're like, okay,

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 2>well let's see what Hunter has to say. And she's

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 2>delusional about what's happening. She's like, stop punishing him. We

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 2>really don't need this. What do you mean, court Da,

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 2>You're crazy. I'll take I'm home. I will punish him.

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, no, no, he is arrested. He is

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>under arrest. You are dumb, and he cannot leave, and

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 2>she does. She goes, you're making them out and out

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 2>of a molehill. And then finally she's like, well, I'm

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna hire an attorney and it's like, yeah, go do that.

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 3>She's boy mom to the max.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you said it, but like she's really giving

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>such big boy mom energy. We should make like a

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>boy mom collage for SVU, because they sure they are

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>everywhere spreading their son's toxic bullshit.

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 3>It'll be her Missus Potts.

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 1>And a bunch of the other toxic fucking moms we've had.

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm thinking of the one in like the

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 2>teen private school and a dance he wasn't waiting to

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 2>hear no.

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Page Turco plays a pretty aggressive boy.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Mom at one point. I'm trying to think there's a

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 3>lot of them.

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, well now okay, done with boy moms.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.720
<v Speaker 2>We're back with the crew. We have Belzer Finn Kragan

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>adding with a da I don't know this woman. Her

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>name is Sherry West the actresses Fancy Swift, and she's

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 2>in five episodes, so she.

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Is like the one I always confused with White House,

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>black Market, the Jillian Hardwick. Like, I just think that

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they're like a string of just like sort of pretty

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>lady das that are like not good but like not

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>hate heable enough, like Kim Gray, like where you really

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>remember them, you know, Yeah.

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 3>They're just like mediocre.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, also not a guest for this episode if

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.720
<v Speaker 2>you're also one of our people that are a guessing

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 2>who's being on that cobody. So she can't, So she

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>can't charge him with a sex crime. You know, they

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>want her to, but she can't. She's like, that's that

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 2>would be a thought crime, and they're like, well, what

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:40.359
<v Speaker 2>can we charge him with?

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Like, we need to.

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Get him sex defender therapy, so maybe that could be

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 2>part of the plea deal, like we have to do something,

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, yeah, but he's fourteen and it's a

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>first offense, and Belser is like, well, he touched a

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>teacher's breasts in school, so it's actually not his first offense.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 2>And they're like there's gonna be future visc victims too,

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 2>like we need to make sure we get him, and

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 2>she's like, this isn't even my case. This is family

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>court and Craigan goes, no, first degree burglary with deadly weapon.

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>The cutoff is fourteen. You can charge him as an adult.

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>So we're in court and we have Ned Eisenberg legend,

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>rest in peace, and he wants family court.

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 3>She says, felony. So you know what are we gonna do? Judge?

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.439
<v Speaker 2>We got a bail set at five grand, which I get.

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, he is a kid.

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 3>He's just like you could tell that he's evil.

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So because the part of me is like, fourteen charges

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>an adult, what the fuck? But it's like, I know

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>you're evil, so I am for it.

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Francy asks for an order of protection for Annie, and

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>that is granted, and then he says that he needs

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>a protection order because he was molested by Stabler. So

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:47.359
<v Speaker 2>then Rita Wilson's shocks. You know, he's having the time

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 2>of his life. And then Francy is like, oh no.

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Benson's getting the news on the phone in the center

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 2>office and she's like, oh geez, okay. So she runs

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 2>to Stabler, who's lying and says he has to go

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 2>to preschool for Eli, and it's like, in what world,

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 2>in what world are you doing any preschool walk throughs, meetings,

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>student affairs. I don't buy it for a fucking second,

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 2>but sure you were going to go to the preschool.

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.919
<v Speaker 2>He's pouring coffee and he could tell by Benson's face

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>that she's serious about something.

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 3>So she's like, well, what's going on?

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 2>So we talked, you know, we're like, you're accused of molestation,

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and Stabler's pissed. He's like this little fucking psychopath is free,

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 2>like I'm you know, Stabler's through the moon, that's not

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 2>the saying through the roof up to the moon. Benson

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 2>is trying to calm him down, and it's like this

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>dumb punk and he's like, no fucking way, this has

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 2>been the plan the whole time, Like, it's not a

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 2>dumb punk thing. I've been set up. I didn't write

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 2>it down because he said it was a joke and

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I kind of forgot about it. I don't know if

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 2>this is something he would have forgotten about, but maybe

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>he was just annoyed, like I don't. He's a stickler,

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess, so he wouldn't have written it down. But

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 2>amateur move. But yeah, Sailor's putting on a jacket. He's

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.800
<v Speaker 2>obviously about to cause some problems and break some rules.

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 2>He's saying he's not. He's like, I'm just gonna go

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 2>to AaB and just clear this up now before they

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 2>come looking for me. And the moment that he gets there,

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Rita Wilson and Hunter are coming down the stairs and

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.879
<v Speaker 2>she calls him a pervert, and then Tucker runs out

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.439
<v Speaker 2>and he's just like pissed Steven see Stabler, and Sailor goes, yeah,

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to come involuntarily and goes, well, that's suspicious.

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I never sent for you, and it's like, well, if

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 2>you had to send for him, you know. It's just

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 2>like at this point, it's comical. Every time we talk

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>about this man. It's the same old samle like I

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 2>can't take him seriously, Like we love Tucker, but I

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 2>hate him. It's so annoying. Hunter puts Hunter and Tucker

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>what is this? And so Hunter puts on his sunglasses

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and pushes them on his face like trying to be

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 2>a cool kid, and Sailor's trying to be chill and

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>says it's a setup.

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Of course.

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Tucker's like, I hate you and you have a big file,

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, yeah, but that's for my temper and

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>being mean to pedophiles, like I'm not going to touch kids,

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know that's a no. You know, tucker raspy voice,

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 2>he brings me to the edge, honestly. Stabler goes, I

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 2>protect kids, I don't touch them. Tucker's still not move

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Stabler smiles and Shock like are you fucking kidding? And

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>then Sabler is like, you're an idiot, and then also

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 2>calls him a moron, and Stabler goes, the door was

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 2>wide open, and then Tucker goes, yeah, that's why we

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>have a witness. So the smile goes off Stabler's face.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 2>So it's not just like listen, you know the door

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 2>was open. I wouldn't have done it. I followed the rules.

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Leave me alone. You're a fool. This is like a

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 3>kid with a plan.

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>But now season twelve and suddenly stablers are touching kids.

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't come on, yeah, a wrap around, what are

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you talking about whatever?

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:54.280
<v Speaker 3>There's a witness.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Nelson, the uniform cop is walking by Benson at work.

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 3>She's like, what happened, dude.

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I told the truth and ben And goes, well, yes,

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:01.799
<v Speaker 2>so you know it didn't happen.

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I can only say what I heard and saw.

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I can't lie.

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:06.919
<v Speaker 2>And then and he's like, I saw Stabler move away

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 2>from the kid after I came in the room and

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>bun Benson's obviously going to fight for her man and

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 2>h and Nelson goes, I couldn't see his hands, and

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes, I can't believe you're letting this kid play you,

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:21.439
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, listen, don't worry. I've been punished because

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I talked to AaB and now I'm as signed somewhere stupid.

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to work and now I have to

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.720
<v Speaker 2>get there, so bye. So Craigan's not talking to Benson

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 2>and Stabler saying he doesn't want anybody harassing Nelson.

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 3>So now we're in lawyer talk time.

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Ned says that his client would be down to drop

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the case if they drop theirs, and Francy's like, so blackmail,

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 2>are you kidding me? Basically, the excuse is like, listen,

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 2>it's a kid, like we got it, like first offense,

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's throw this away. And she's like, well,

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I want this to be his last, you know what

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it doesn't matter if it's it's first. But

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 2>he seems like he's a psychopath. And he's like, come on,

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 2>don't take away this kid's childhood. And it is a

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>really tall fourteen year old. He does not give me

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>fourteen years old. She goes, I don't want to let

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 2>a future Ted Bundy walk and Ned goes, well, a

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.160
<v Speaker 2>jury's not going to convict this child, and he says

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>with the deal, at least he'll get some help. So

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 2>then we cut straight to Kathy and Stabler in bed

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and the phone is ringing. It's super early in the morning,

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 2>and Kathy answers the phone and goes, surprise, surprise, it's

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>your office wife. And I wonder if they coined kind

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 2>of the term like I've never you know, I wonder

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.879
<v Speaker 2>if she is Benson the original work wife.

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know.

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>It feels like this has been said for a long time.

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 3>But yes, for sure, the original work wife.

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>But in a way that is a lot of people

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>don't like workwife because they're like it implies something weird.

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>They're like, no, i'm his wife, like I am, yeah,

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>but Kathy likes it.

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kathy likes it.

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Kathy's like so fucking secure that these two are never

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>going to hook up.

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 3>It's like kind of wild.

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>So the day she gets blown up in that car,

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you two are never going to fuck but

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I yeah.

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Like some people don't like that. They really hate that.

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>They really hate when someone goes, oh, yeah, I'm his

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>work wife and they're.

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Like, nah, that is weird.

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you can't say it, but the she Kathy could

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 1>say it, Benson can't say yeah yeah yeah.

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 2>But Kathy's like, listen, we're taking a personal day. So

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>then she hangs up and turns to Stable and goes

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Good News Live Things to off the hook for a

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 2>trumped up melestation charge that you forgot to mention, and

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's gonna. You know, they pled out, but

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I would be pissed if my partner was accused of

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 2>melestation and didn't give me a heads up.

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Whatever.

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 2>The pleading out does not make Stabler happy. He's pissed

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 2>and we're we're in court and it's allocution time. And

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.720
<v Speaker 2>this boy had been unlawfully entering the home. He was wasted,

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>He had no idea what he was doing. The judge goes,

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 2>stop editorializing, and then Stable runs into court, runs to

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Francy and goes, don't do this, stop this, like this

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 2>is a freak. Rita Wilson stands up and says, we

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 2>have a restraining order against that man, and it's wild.

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 2>And then the judge wants Stabler escorted out and she

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't like being interrupted. Stabler and Fann are at a

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 2>bar and Stabler is like that this boy is like

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 2>flying through his teeth. He has no remorse, like we

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>cannot let him go. And I think he learned a

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 2>lot about this through Kyle McLaughlin, Like I think sociopathic

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>kids like this is his, this is his thing.

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Now he gets a vibe. I think he catches a

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>vibe from kids that are like hot hit, like really

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.839
<v Speaker 1>cocky and like arrogant and sort of like sociopathic, you know.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then Finn is telling a Stabler like, listen,

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>she pled this out for you, and Silba goes, no,

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 2>she did this because she's an idiot, and they keep

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.399
<v Speaker 2>talking trash, and she walks in and goes, okay, guys, hey,

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not an idiot, and I actually did not do

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 2>it for you. Oh She's like, listen, he's he got

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 2>three years, like a three year sentence, but out of jail,

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 2>like it's like a probation parole style thing. And if

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>he does any offense that gets broken and it's automatic detention,

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:07.320
<v Speaker 2>fifty hours of community service, alcohol class and sex offender class.

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 2>So you know, that's actually pretty good because if I

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 2>rolled the dice and lost, there'd be nothing. At least

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 2>this way, there's supervision for three years. And then Finn

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 2>gets a buzz for an active crime scene, but Finn

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.919
<v Speaker 2>is like, you can't come, and of course Stabler comes,

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 2>and then Bellser goes, well, thanks for following my instructions,

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you dumb bitch. And so the victim is Madeline fifty

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 2>is businesswoman and her skirt is hiked up throat slit

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 2>and Stabler goes it's him, And I don't know why

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.760
<v Speaker 2>they're jumping to this conclusion like that, but Okay.

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this kid has so far like not only she

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 1>hasn't even committed a crime, he hasn't as far as

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.720
<v Speaker 1>they know, he has not even he was just planning

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to possibly attack someone.

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 3>And he's a piece of shit and he's a little shit.

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know why they would see this body

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 2>with no sharedmos or anything. And maybe it gets him

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:55.880
<v Speaker 2>for sure, but yeah, Sabler has a sixth sense about this.

0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 2>So they're jumping to conclusions and then and they're like, oh,

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he did this because like he's pissed

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:09.399
<v Speaker 2>about the rules of his punishment or is he celebrating

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that like he got out of not going to jail.

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 2>So Stabler and the parole officers show up and Read

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 2>is annoyed because the restraining order is done, like that

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 2>is part of the deal, and he's like, nope, I'm

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 2>here to introduce you to mister Sawaki, your probation guy.

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Surprise visits are fun. It's a seven thirty curfew, so

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.879
<v Speaker 2>he must be home, right, So they go to knock

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 2>on his bedroom door. The music's on loud, no one

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 2>is answering, and then Stabler hears a noise, so he

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 2>walks to the kitchen to investigate, and well, you know,

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 2>there he is holding, you know, by the knife drawer,

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 2>holding a knife, and they're like, well, where did you

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 2>come from? And you know, he's super mister sassy pants.

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 2>And they go back and forth, and he said that

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 2>he was locked out of his room and he usually

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 2>like uses a knife to enter it, and so the

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 2>room is locked from the inside, which is strange and

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 2>only a knife can open it. He also does seem

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:56.839
<v Speaker 2>fucked up and drunk, so I don't know what's going on.

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 2>He says he has nothing to hide and to enter

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 2>the room, and like does not care, and Sailor's looking

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 2>at him, looking at him, goes, even the clothes you're

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 2>wearing don't fit you, what you know, and he goes, well,

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>you certainly know how to make a guy feel self conscious,

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 2>and this kid is funny.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:13.320
<v Speaker 3>And then samhar asks.

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:14.959
<v Speaker 2>Rita Wilson, like, are these the clothes he was wearing

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the last time you saw him?

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 3>And are they his?

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And she says yes, and Sailor's like, okay, listen, this

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 2>kid is clearly drinking. The clothes don't fit him. He

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 2>was found in the kitchen. His room door was locked,

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Like what games are we playing here? Breathalyze this motherfucker.

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 2>He blows a point oh nine, so he goes, oh,

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 2>cough syrup, and they arrest him. They're like, a cough

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 2>syrup doesn't get you a point oh nine. Rita Wilson goes,

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 2>why are you obsessed with him? And it's like on

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 2>day one, he's drunk and holding a knife. So we're

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 2>in the office and Craigan is explaining to fit in Munch,

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 2>the difference between parole and probation and how they can't

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:52.360
<v Speaker 2>just haul him away. They're doing a hearing on Friday,

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 2>so we have to find out like if he did this,

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 2>where did he get these clothes? Like where did he

0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 2>ditch the weapon? He is smart, like how did he

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 2>do this? Did he get wasted out? Did he get

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.360
<v Speaker 2>back home? There's so much to figure out about the case.

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 2>So they go to the emmy and the victim that

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:11.760
<v Speaker 2>they found, Madeline, is choked out and it wasn't a slice,

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't through the cuts. Basically the cut was

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 2>not strong enough to go that deep. This is actually

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.759
<v Speaker 2>like so fucking gruesome. This is fucked up. This is

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Neil Bear written all over it. So the cut was

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 2>to the trachea and like part of this thyroid artery

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 2>that got nicked. And then those cuts were bleeding and

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:34.959
<v Speaker 2>the blood went into the windpipe and then she choked.

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 3>On her own blood.

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Awful, awful, And so he had her up against the dumpster.

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 2>He was raping her from behind and with the straight

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 2>edge to the throat that's when the cuts happened. And

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 2>then that's like whatever, but no condom and they're running

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the DNA now, so we need to compare it to

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 2>something though, And the plea deal did not include a sample.

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 3>They arrested him.

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why you don't fingerprint and get like swabs, Like,

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. You've always fingerprint, but I don't

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 1>know if you always do DNA. I think you have

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to get come health us. Why they do the tricks

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>with the soda, you know. Yeah, No, you're right, you're right,

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm for the law. Okay, So but he must

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>have left DNA something, So we're looking. So we go

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 1>back to Annie Murphy and she's like, oh the nightie,

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the pink thing.

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, I threw that away.

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 2>But we have Judith Cipers on the scene and she

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 2>starts spraying, you know, a liquid into the closet where

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>he was hanging out, and there's a black light and

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 2>there's jigs in the closet. The jiz is everywhere all

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 2>over and then Annie is so innocent, she goes, ew,

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:38.160
<v Speaker 2>what was he doing in there? And it's like clearly

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>jerking off in your closet, like you're thirty four. Belzer goes,

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 2>the legal term is hanging himself. Okay, jokes. So Stablers

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 2>like following him, waiting to see if like the evidence matches,

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:53.360
<v Speaker 2>like to bring him in at any moment, but also

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:56.720
<v Speaker 2>to make sure he's not attacking anyone else. So whilst

0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 2>he's following him, you have a hunter following a woman.

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 2>So like, okay, he's gonna like catch hunter attacking this

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:06.719
<v Speaker 2>woman that he's following. But they enter the gates. They

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 2>go into a church. You know, Stabler goes into the church,

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 2>they exit out the door like a back door of

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the church. He follows them through there. He's sprinting and

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:18.319
<v Speaker 2>guess what it's aa, babe, it's aa. It's TENAA TENAA.

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Part of the court order. Stabler feels dumb for sure,

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 2>but he's blinded with range. You know what I mean

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 2>with rage, not range and range. Okay, Craigan is in

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the office and is pissed, like are you fucking dumb?

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 2>And Cragan says, you were as dreamingly wrong. So this

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:39.799
<v Speaker 2>emmy walks in this tall string being of a man

0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and he goes listen.

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 3>While I was.

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Waiting for the DNA from the closet, I ran the

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:50.359
<v Speaker 2>DNA from the murder victim into codis and I got

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 2>a hit on five unsold rapes in Oregon and then

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 2>got the closet DNA and it's a match. So Hunter's

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:01.320
<v Speaker 2>actually a fourteen year old series rapist.

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:08.800
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, a freshman in high school, ninth grade, full murder, rape,

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:13.760
<v Speaker 1>cross country like this is insane and kind of devious enough.

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 2>To then continue like playing these games in court, unbothered,

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:17.840
<v Speaker 2>full socio.

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Munch is in a Fedora.

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 2>They're discussing Oregon and basically he would do summers with

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 2>his dad there, and so the time where Hunter was

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 2>there with his dad coincides with like all these murders.

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 2>But he's still cocky and creepy, and Rita Wilson is

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:34.839
<v Speaker 2>still like, why are you destroying my son's life? And

0:54:34.880 --> 0:54:36.799
<v Speaker 2>she goes, is this all because of revenge? Is this

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 2>revenge because of the Stabler accusation? And they're like, do

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:41.560
<v Speaker 2>you not get it? And so then they like walk

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:44.319
<v Speaker 2>to the board and it's all these women's photos and

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 2>they're going through them like, you know, one was in

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 2>an elevator, one was in a hiking trail, one you know,

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 2>like one was in a parking garage.

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 3>There's all these women.

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:53.799
<v Speaker 2>So Rita Wilson goes, are you trying to stick every

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 2>crime in the country on him? And he looks just

0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.959
<v Speaker 2>like the composite from Oregon, Like there was a dry

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.799
<v Speaker 2>there were witnesses, So we have this organ composite. It

0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:05.440
<v Speaker 2>looks just like Hunter and that's fun. And that's when

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 2>he started wearing pantyhose. So we've seen this like motherfucker

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.440
<v Speaker 2>grow and not grow. We've seen this motherfucker like adapt.

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:17.279
<v Speaker 2>So he uh, she says it wasn't Hunter, and they go, no,

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 2>we have the DNA, like there is sperm. There is sperm.

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:22.800
<v Speaker 2>You have to stop. The sperm was all the same,

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.360
<v Speaker 2>like what are you doing? And then Benson comes in

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:28.200
<v Speaker 2>with a fact twenty percent of sexual assaults are committed

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 2>by teens, but most of their victims are people their age,

0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:35.359
<v Speaker 2>So why is Hunter going old after older women? And yeah,

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.440
<v Speaker 2>all the women like they were they got being like

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 2>they said though all the women's ages, and I was

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 2>confused while they were doing it, And now it makes sense.

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:44.319
<v Speaker 2>All the women were between the ages of thirty eight

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 2>to fifty six, So why older women rita Huh, he

0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 2>was molested by one maybe maybe a woman around your age,

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.959
<v Speaker 2>and she's shocked. She goes, you're sick. I would never

0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 2>and then uh oh he flew out the window. So

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 2>basically what happened was he was arrested in the back

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 2>of a cop car. He said he wasn't feeling good,

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 2>so the cop like open the window a little bit,

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and then Munch and Finn are like driving behind, following

0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the car and they see him fall out the window,

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 2>handcuffed this and they're like, you're an idiot to the cop,

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:20.879
<v Speaker 2>and the cop goes, I don't think he'd slide through

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:24.360
<v Speaker 2>that little hole, and it is nuts. He was like

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:28.359
<v Speaker 2>cuffed flying so whatever, so they like, see this, I

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 2>just love this. So they have to go to the

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 2>hospital and oh my god, he's fucking missing at the

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 2>hospital too. They put him in the MRI machine, but

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 2>he was uncuffed and he fucking knocked out the tech,

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 2>put the tech in the gown, put him in the MRI,

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and ran off. The fact that they left him unattended,

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 2>uncuffed in an MRI machine after he threw his body

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 2>out of a moving vehicle, and now we know that

0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 2>he's a serial killer rapist with five victims behind him,

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 2>is like, what are we talking about?

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 2>It's like a chase to find this child. He's climbed

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 2>through the air vence. What Rita is now? At home,

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:09.880
<v Speaker 2>She's crying, stabler and finner with her. She's so annoying.

0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 2>She's like wait and then they tell her they're like,

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you want us to find him first, okay, because they're

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna fucking kill his ass. So he sounds fucked and

0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:21.520
<v Speaker 2>he calls and he's like, are there cops there? Of course,

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Ria Wilson lies and says no. He's like, whatever, everyone's dumb.

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I tricked everyone into thinking I was paralyzed. I'm a genius.

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:30.160
<v Speaker 2>She's like, come home. He calls her, dumb. There's a

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of name calling in this episode, truly yeah, and

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:35.280
<v Speaker 2>he goes, I'm obviously not coming to the house. There's

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna be cops there. His speech is slurred. He calls

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:41.240
<v Speaker 2>her a dumb cow. Now she goes, you're drunk, and

0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:43.480
<v Speaker 2>he goes, whatever, thanks for selling me out. And then

0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 2>he says bye to the cops. So he does know.

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:46.280
<v Speaker 3>And then.

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And then he says, I hope it's you, stabler.

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go do your job for you, you giant douche,

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 2>and hangs up. So then I asked Rita Wilson, like,

0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 2>what is he talking about? She cries. She says, I

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know. She's left sobbing. They go find the phone

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 2>where the calls were made. A homeless guy has the

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:07.520
<v Speaker 2>phone and it's actually his phone. Goes, I let the

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>kid borrow my phone. Actually, so a real perspective shift here,

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, yeah, he called some guy a douche.

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Love that, and he goes and the deal was awesome,

0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and I got a bottle of booze out of it,

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 2>so we got like a giant bottle of booze.

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 3>So let this kid borrow the phone.

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>He's in a great mood getting wasted Craigan and Benson

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and Stabler are like, fuck, so it's desperate. It could

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:32.240
<v Speaker 2>be bad. He could be like suicidal. Rita Wilson now interrupts.

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 2>She goes, please, don't let anything happen to him. This

0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 2>isn't his fault, it's mine. She says, you were right,

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 2>he was molested. Benson tells her to sit down. So

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Hunter on the phone said to her, you should have

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:45.720
<v Speaker 2>helped him and taken care of him, and Stabler reminds

0:58:45.720 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 2>her like that he was saying all that, and she goes, yeah,

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>he was seven, and it took her months to realize

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that something was wrong. But then she finally got him

0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 2>to tell her the truth and the babysitter was molesting him,

0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:59.439
<v Speaker 2>but she didn't want to press charges because she didn't

0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:03.000
<v Speaker 2>want people to know. And she'd like, yeah, so this

0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 2>babysitter did really bad things to him and made him

0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 2>do stuff. And now she's fully crying and she never

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:10.480
<v Speaker 2>got him help because she just wanted him to forget

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 2>about it and be normal, like you are dumb, You

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:16.440
<v Speaker 2>are a dumb Yeah, actually, now that I am on

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:20.439
<v Speaker 2>your son's side here, so he's like he also said

0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:22.240
<v Speaker 2>he was going to do the job for me. Fuck

0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 2>does he know where this woman lives? So they go

0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 2>to Ellen Huffner's apartment, guns up ready. They see a

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:29.640
<v Speaker 2>liquor bottle on the ground, so they know he was

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 2>here and he killed her and then took his own life.

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 2>There's blood everywhere, a gruesome crime scene, and then uh oh,

0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Hunter's actually alive. The blood all over him is from

0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 2>the babysitter, and now they're helping him and being super

0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 2>nice to him, and it's like, he did kill a

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:44.840
<v Speaker 2>bunch of people in rape, Like, I don't think we

0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:45.720
<v Speaker 2>need to be nice to him.

0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't actually care, and yeah, so he's crying.

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:50.440
<v Speaker 2>He says he doesn't know why he did things to

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.360
<v Speaker 2>other women that wasn't him, and Benson's like, well, we

0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 2>know why you did it, and he goes but now

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I can stop, and it's like, yeah, because you're gonna

0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 2>be in jail. But he goes confronting Ellen. You know,

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:03.439
<v Speaker 2>really helped me, and I think I feel better now.

1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:07.120
<v Speaker 2>But like he asked her, why did you do this

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:09.520
<v Speaker 2>to me? And she wouldn't tell him, and so he goes,

1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:12.720
<v Speaker 2>at least she won't do it to anyone else, and yeah,

1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 2>neither will I, he says, and he says, I'm gonna

1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:18.200
<v Speaker 2>be all right, It's all gonna be okay now, and

1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the detectives do look horrified and stickwolf baby.

1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I believe that killing his babysitter

1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:28.880
<v Speaker 1>is just like, Okay, I'm normal now, Like I don't

1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>know that he's not going to keep going to commit crime,

1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Like even if they were to you know, he will

1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:35.480
<v Speaker 1>go to jail obviously, but even if they were like

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 1>let's say they were lenient and they're like, we're gonna

1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:40.320
<v Speaker 1>try him as a juvenile because he's been molested in

1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:45.200
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, Like like I don't think he would

1:00:45.200 --> 1:00:47.600
<v Speaker 1>stop if he got out at eighteen, you know.

1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:49.600
<v Speaker 3>No, I think he's fucked forever.

1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:52.400
<v Speaker 2>But I am sure he feels a sense of euphoria

1:00:52.480 --> 1:00:55.360
<v Speaker 2>or relief or something like he has a killer, you know.

1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:00:56.440 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 1>But also it's obviously the babysitter's fault, but it's the

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.200
<v Speaker 1>mom fault as well, Like you were just burying all

1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:04.160
<v Speaker 1>this shit and then like when he started acting like

1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 1>a yeah, when you started acting like a full sociopath,

1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you weren't, like, I wonder if this is linked? And

1:01:09.560 --> 1:01:11.760
<v Speaker 1>then and then they called you and you were like

1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:14.160
<v Speaker 1>let him rot in jail for a night. My son

1:01:14.200 --> 1:01:17.240
<v Speaker 1>who got molested by a babysitter like seven years ago,

1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Like it's crazy behavior, but it's like he's still so young. Yeah, yeah,

1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:28.080
<v Speaker 1>he's seven years out from being seven. Like it's really

1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:31.640
<v Speaker 1>like not that long of time, like since he's gone

1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:35.960
<v Speaker 1>through this threat like horrible thing and then had time

1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to I mean, how old was he when he did

1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:43.400
<v Speaker 1>all these rapes in Oregon? Thirteen? Like it's really crazy.

1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:54.800
<v Speaker 1>But let's get into the true crime. There's a bunch

1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of crimes listed as possible stuff that this could be

1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:00.920
<v Speaker 1>based on. I think a lot of them are just

1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:03.480
<v Speaker 1>because the victims are young and there's not actually as

1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:05.720
<v Speaker 1>much I mean not the victims, I'm sorry, the perpetrators

1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:10.320
<v Speaker 1>are young and not necessarily like have as much linking.

1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Like for example, like there's this case called the case

1:02:13.920 --> 1:02:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of Dana Gibson, who was fourteen and nineteen ninety when

1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:20.640
<v Speaker 1>he was charged with sexually abusing six girls ages nine

1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to seventeen.

1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:23.240
<v Speaker 3>This all took place.

1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:26.200
<v Speaker 1>In the Brownsville area of Brooklyn, which is just east

1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of Crown Heights, and he would attack victims in the

1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:33.040
<v Speaker 1>hallways elevators, building rooftops. He lived in Flatbush, and he

1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:35.160
<v Speaker 1>was arrested in an attack of a fifteen year old

1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and then was charged with five other crimes when victims

1:02:37.520 --> 1:02:40.920
<v Speaker 1>picked him out of lineups. He was charged with rape, soughtomy,

1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:44.000
<v Speaker 1>attempted rape, and sexual abuse, and since he was charged

1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:47.680
<v Speaker 1>as a youthful offender, he would be subject to lesser sentences.

1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I could not find any sentencing information for this guy

1:02:51.680 --> 1:02:56.000
<v Speaker 1>after or any inmate information. I looked up inmate lookups,

1:02:56.880 --> 1:02:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and then I did find one other article that found

1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:01.360
<v Speaker 1>a follow up that when he was unhoused in two

1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:02.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand and four.

1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:03.800
<v Speaker 3>At this point, he's twenty eight.

1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:08.640
<v Speaker 1>He was arrested for trying to grab one twelve year

1:03:08.680 --> 1:03:11.200
<v Speaker 1>old girl and then assaulted another twelve year old girl

1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:14.320
<v Speaker 1>in this apartment building where the girls lived, and according

1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:16.280
<v Speaker 1>to the New York Post, he was unhoused and had

1:03:16.280 --> 1:03:19.520
<v Speaker 1>spent half his life behind bars. So I think it's

1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:21.960
<v Speaker 1>safe to say that he's he's incarcerated somewhere. I just

1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:25.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know why. I can't find his listing anywhere. But

1:03:25.360 --> 1:03:29.760
<v Speaker 1>there's not a juvenile when he went in Maybe that, yeah, maybe,

1:03:29.760 --> 1:03:31.720
<v Speaker 1>But then he's twenty eight when he got this other bust,

1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:33.560
<v Speaker 1>which I would assume you would go back to jail for.

1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:37.560
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, maybe he was mentally unfit or something,

1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:39.240
<v Speaker 1>and he's in a medical facility, and that's why I

1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:41.400
<v Speaker 1>can't find it. The other problem is when you just

1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:48.680
<v Speaker 1>google Dana Gibson, there's some other nurse or something who

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<v Speaker 1>did something wrong. Hold on, let me just you get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like a prison nurse. I think about

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie Gibson. Yeah, you get a prison nurse named Dana

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<v Speaker 1>Gibson who was having sexual relations with a inmate at

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<v Speaker 1>the prison that she worked in. So yeah, classics, so

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<v Speaker 1>very bron win, very bron win coded. So basically it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to find anything about Dana Gibson, this fourteen year old.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I don't really think that it has that

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<v Speaker 1>much to do with the actual case, besides the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that while he's like fourteen and he's committing all these crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, I didn't find anything about his

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<v Speaker 1>background or you know, I'm sure he did not have

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<v Speaker 1>a happy upbringing if by fourteen he was on a

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<v Speaker 1>spree of rapes, But there was not that much information.

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<v Speaker 1>The case I mostly focused on was the case of

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Lajebakov, and I might be saying that wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I'm going to say it. And this takes

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<v Speaker 1>us to the distant land of Canada. Cody Lajebakov was

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<v Speaker 1>born in January of nineteen ninety and raised in Fort

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<v Speaker 1>James in rural British Columbia. According to friends and family,

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<v Speaker 1>he was well liked, had no red flags or violent behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>He played hockey at a high level. He was on

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<v Speaker 1>the high school skateboard team. I didn't have the those existed, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but in Canada that's kind of like not really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like literally anything. So you know, it's like having

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<v Speaker 1>the last name Smith in Canada. So like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they wasn't a red flag. So his parents were married,

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<v Speaker 1>they had not no offense to anyone. Play, Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>his parents were married. He's he says his parents were

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<v Speaker 1>good to him. He had two siblings, He graduated high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's not the picture of, you know, of a criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like his family even had money apparently because there the

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<v Speaker 1>grandparents used to own a sawmill. And I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>had like a minor criminal record, but he wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>really quote unquote on the radar of the local police.

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<v Speaker 3>So now in late.

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<v Speaker 1>November of twenty ten, it is And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I think that this is linked to the

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<v Speaker 1>episode more just because of the crimes, but also the timing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this episode came out in twenty eleven. These this

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<v Speaker 1>guy was you know, kind of discovered by the public

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty ten, so like it's related. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>evening it was like nine to forty five at night

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<v Speaker 1>when a Canadian police officer, which the RCMP the Royal

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian Mounted Police I guess, noticed a truck speeding, driving

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<v Speaker 1>erratically and then pulling out of a remote logging road

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<v Speaker 1>is where they originally spotted this car. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>road nobody really uses, and they thought maybe this person

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<v Speaker 1>was poaching animals. So apparently when they pulled this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Cody over, he had blood smeared on his face and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a pool of blood in the truck. When

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<v Speaker 1>they searched his car, they found a wrench covered in

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<v Speaker 1>blood and a backpack shaped like a monkey and a

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<v Speaker 1>wallet that had an ID card that read Lauren Leslie.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the cops were like, what's with the bloody wrench,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, oh, yeah, I was poaching animals.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes, quote, I'm a rednick. That's what we

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<v Speaker 3>do for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was no deer in the truck, like he

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<v Speaker 1>said he was poaching deer or killing deer or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, there was there were no deer in

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<v Speaker 1>the truck. So where's where's the meat, where's the skins,

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<v Speaker 1>where's like the product? He trace his tire tracks back

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<v Speaker 1>down the road that they'd seen him drive out of,

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<v Speaker 1>and they eventually found footprints in like light snow that

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<v Speaker 1>led them to the body of Lauren Leslie, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen year old, and the bus led them to

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<v Speaker 1>other victims. The first victim of his was Jill Stacy's Dachenko,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, mother of six, who went missing in October

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and nine, was found four days later

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<v Speaker 1>in a gravel pit.

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<v Speaker 3>Then that was nine fall of nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing for about ten months unless there are unknown victims,

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<v Speaker 1>which I tend to think there might be. Then Natasha

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn Montgomery twenty three, a mother of two. She went

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<v Speaker 1>missing in August of twenty ten. Her body has never

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<v Speaker 1>been found, but in Lejebakov's apartment authorities found shirts, shorts,

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<v Speaker 1>bed sheets, a comforter and an axe that had Natasha's

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<v Speaker 1>DNA on it, so that's how they linked hit her

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<v Speaker 1>without you know, there being a body. And then Cynthia

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Moss, thirty five was found in a park in

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<v Speaker 1>October of twenty ten with blunt forced trauma the head, brutal,

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<v Speaker 1>brutal details coming up everybody, a hole in her shoulder blade,

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<v Speaker 1>a broken jaw and cheekbone, and injuries to her neck

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<v Speaker 1>like someone had stomped on it. So this was not

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<v Speaker 1>like a like choke and run type of thing. This

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<v Speaker 1>was like a violent, violent murder. And then Leslie was

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<v Speaker 1>November of twenty ten. So again I find it hard

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<v Speaker 1>to believe he took this long ass break between October

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty ten and August of twenty ten. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you know, there's all kinds of murders in

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<v Speaker 1>this area of Canada to against indigenous women, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's like other murders that just were never like

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<v Speaker 1>linked to him. But Stachenko, Montgomery and Moss the older

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<v Speaker 1>the grown women were sex workers, and apparently Lajebakov was

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to coke and use these sex workers to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Other articles say crack, don't. I don't really know what's

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<v Speaker 1>the truth there. Lauren Leslie was the fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>She had met la Jebakov on a website called sept

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<v Speaker 1>Next Sapoia Next Opia. I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>But Leslie was legally blind. She had she was blind

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<v Speaker 1>in one eye and only fifty percent vision in the

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<v Speaker 1>other eye. And like, despite the fact that the day

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<v Speaker 1>that they met up, the day before they met up,

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie had sent Leajebikov a text saying we're just hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out right, nothing sexual. He claims they had consensual sex

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<v Speaker 1>and then went for a drive in the woods, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he said that she had gone that she had

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote gone psycho and started attacking herself with a

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<v Speaker 1>wrench and a knife, and he said he he said

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<v Speaker 1>at the end she was dying, and he did hit

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<v Speaker 1>her a couple of times because he said, quote I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to like put her out of her misery, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did hit maximum two times and then then I

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<v Speaker 1>left end quote. So this guy stood trial for four

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<v Speaker 1>counts of first degree murder. He pled not guilty when

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<v Speaker 1>he was questioned in the trial. This is where I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a little bit of a connection because there

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<v Speaker 1>were sexual assault elements to all of these murders. But

1:10:02.120 --> 1:10:04.759
<v Speaker 1>obviously in this episode, the kid only killed one person

1:10:04.800 --> 1:10:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and this guy killed many more. But he he pled

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty at trial, which is wild. But he also

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<v Speaker 1>had like a very extremely flat affect, like he was

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<v Speaker 1>just really like, no, I would never do something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he just was. He claimed to be really well adjusted,

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<v Speaker 1>part of a normal family. But yet none of his

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<v Speaker 1>relatives ever showed up to court. Not anybody was related

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<v Speaker 1>to ever showed up to support him in court. So

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<v Speaker 1>no one, no, And he was nineteen when he committed

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<v Speaker 1>these crimes. By the way, he was nineteen, So he

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<v Speaker 1>kept insisting, yeah, like I'm a normal guy. When the

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<v Speaker 1>cops questioned him, he was like, no, no, my girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I met my girlfriend. She's going to be a teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to become I'm going to finish my apprenticeship

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<v Speaker 1>and work in a parts department at a car dealership.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he says, quote kid's marriage, start a family,

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<v Speaker 1>live happily ever after end quote. So this guy's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's very pro like the lady doth protest too much

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<v Speaker 1>about how normal he is, you know, And at trial

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed to have been quoteunquot involved in three of

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<v Speaker 1>the murders, but said he was not the one who

1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:07.000
<v Speaker 1>actually committed the crimes. He said he was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a drug dealer, and these two guys that worked for

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<v Speaker 1>the drug dealer, but he would only call them X,

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<v Speaker 1>Y and Z, like he didn't have names for them,

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<v Speaker 1>or he wouldn't give the names. He claimed that in

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<v Speaker 1>these three crimes against these old these women, that he

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<v Speaker 1>was a butcher's assistant and that he just handed over

1:11:22.840 --> 1:11:26.200
<v Speaker 1>murder weapons, cleaned up blood, moved bodies, et cetera, but

1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:28.880
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't the one that actually took their lives. He

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<v Speaker 1>tried to plead down to second degree murder. The prosecution

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada was like, I don't think so, honey. He

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<v Speaker 1>was convicted on all four counts on September eleventh, twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got life in prison with no possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>pearl for twenty five years. So that would make it

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty nine before he even has the possibility of pearl,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd be forty nine years old. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to let him out as a forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine year old, Like if he was like seventy nine maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the judge who sentenced him to prison time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm and over his who presided over his court was

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<v Speaker 1>British Columbia Supreme Court Justice Glenn Parrott, who said, quote

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<v Speaker 1>he lacks any shred of empathy or remorse. He should

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<v Speaker 1>never be allowed to walk among us again, end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was originally in one jail and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>in the Warkworth Institution, a medium security prison in Ontario.

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<v Speaker 1>And people, if you google Canada's youngest serial killer, this

1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:25.880
<v Speaker 1>guy's name comes up. A lot of people say he's

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<v Speaker 1>Canada's youngest serial killer because he was nineteen when he

1:12:28.200 --> 1:12:31.560
<v Speaker 1>committed these crimes. But apparently the youngest is Peter Woodcock,

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<v Speaker 1>who was seventeen when he raped and murdered three young

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<v Speaker 1>children in Toronto nineteen fifty seven. But he was found

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty by reason of insanity and spent the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of his life behind bars and still managed to kill

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<v Speaker 1>an inmate before he died in twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 3>This Peter Wouldcock guy. But Lejebikov still in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just like crazy because in all of these article,

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<v Speaker 1>all these interviews with him or what he told the police,

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<v Speaker 1>like the police. He's like, no, I'm not that kind

1:12:58.920 --> 1:13:00.519
<v Speaker 1>of person, like I would never do that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>from that kind of family or whatever. And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>he fully committed all these crimes and then just so

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't like the babysitter connection like in the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but just like a young sort of psychopath who had

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<v Speaker 1>a taste for murder and sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, just thinking about me at fourteen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not on my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we're nineteen, even I can't even like I

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<v Speaker 3>guess nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I also was not thinking of yeah, yeah, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>honest at my current age. Also not thinking about murder,

1:13:33.640 --> 1:13:36.839
<v Speaker 1>just not thinking about it. Not not I'm not capable.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm capable. I don't think so, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think. I think I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>ways to cover it up that I've gleaned.

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<v Speaker 1>But the body tells I would only self defense, murder,

1:13:49.600 --> 1:13:54.879
<v Speaker 1>self defense murder, kill a pedophile, Dexter style crimes, dexter

1:13:55.360 --> 1:14:00.320
<v Speaker 1>robin hood, yes, yes, vigilante dot justice yeah yeah. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have an allegend, we have an awesome interview,

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<v Speaker 1>we do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really excited, so don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest today is no stranger to the Dick Wolf universe,

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<v Speaker 1>having played Officer Kim Burgess in one hundred and fifty

1:14:22.520 --> 1:14:25.400
<v Speaker 1>eight episodes of Chicago p D. She's also appeared on

1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:27.960
<v Speaker 1>shows like Gossip Girl and the Americans, but you know

1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:30.760
<v Speaker 1>her best as Annie Meyers, a girl who will not

1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:33.479
<v Speaker 1>let a Republican get to first base and who found

1:14:33.600 --> 1:14:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a little pervert name Hunter Maslin doing something weird in

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<v Speaker 1>her closet. Please enjoy our chat with the delightful Marina Squatschotti.

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<v Speaker 3>Yay, nice to let you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also fresh from soul cycle, so so.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm fresh from Yeah, I'm embarrassed to say this.

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<v Speaker 5>Mom hip hop class? Yeah cool, don't be embarrassed. Mom's

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<v Speaker 5>need to move.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you learn?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not embarrassed, Like when do you learn like choreo

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<v Speaker 2>for one song? Or is it like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop with steps or something?

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<v Speaker 5>So this may be hard to believe, but I'm very vocal.

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<v Speaker 5>And when everyone was like the dance structure was like

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<v Speaker 5>what song do you guys want?

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone's like, I don't know. I was like Missy

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<v Speaker 3>Elliott's one minute ma'am. Yes, Oh my god, do you

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<v Speaker 3>know that in college?

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<v Speaker 1>I took a hip hop class that I learned sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seconds of choreo to one minute man that I could not.

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<v Speaker 3>Walk for three days. It was so difficult. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>just brought up that one song.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, I'm so excited for like the first bar Metsca

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<v Speaker 5>because I am going me and the moms were just

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<v Speaker 5>gonna like casually be like and then we're like.

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<v Speaker 3>Dun break men.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be like the movie, a nineties movie All

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<v Speaker 5>the Moths just going hog a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was curious, what are the places you love

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<v Speaker 2>in the city? What is yeah, like, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying about Chicago or nothing?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't enjoy the winter and like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>on a show where it's you're wearing like a thin Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in the elements. I'm basically like Magellan of Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty awful. I was a bit of a New

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<v Speaker 3>York snob when I first came here. I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing comparse, you know, But I have found so many

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<v Speaker 3>cool like.

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<v Speaker 5>Little places to have food or have like that's sounds

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<v Speaker 5>so dumb, but to see plays and I've just I've

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<v Speaker 5>created a really cultural experience in Chicago, which I thought,

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<v Speaker 5>like they only have, you know, Shakespeare in the parking

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<v Speaker 5>lot of New York. They have all that stuff here

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<v Speaker 5>and that's important to me, and I have a daughter

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<v Speaker 5>and all that, like, you know, really rich cultural stuff

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<v Speaker 5>is important to me. Like I don't even even seeing

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<v Speaker 5>the score of Frozen at the Chicago Symphony Orchestra even nah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just like all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I eat up life and I want and Chicago has everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you went to college in Chicago, right, you did?

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<v Speaker 1>You went to Northwestern.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Northwestern. I all my friends went to

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<v Speaker 3>the East Coast, and I was.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, I'm going to end up in the East coast

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<v Speaker 5>the West coast, so I might as well go because.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never be back. And then there you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you been there for like a decade, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean this is my I just got re sign

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<v Speaker 5>so I'll be here. This is my thirteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That thirteenth year is tough with the universe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that's when Christopher Maloney took off and that

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<v Speaker 1>Rollin's I mean, they're bringing her back.

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<v Speaker 3>But Kelly giddish too.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the twelve year I just hold own a second.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna show you something. I just texted with Kelly

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<v Speaker 5>and I was like, because I saw like her on

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram doing a dance with Mariushka and I go, do

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<v Speaker 5>you see?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, dude, you're back, She goes, I'm back. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>what happens that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I still I do have one more Chicago question.

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<v Speaker 2>We can ease into su but I we've had you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some med.

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<v Speaker 5>It's always important to ease into sexual victims. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, don't yeah, don't go too quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys hang out or see the med and

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<v Speaker 1>fire people? Or is it pretty all separate? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>is the Chicago Dick Wolf universe?

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<v Speaker 3>It is very friendly.

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<v Speaker 5>In the beginning, it was much more like because we

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<v Speaker 5>had a lot more crossovers. We just hung out all

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<v Speaker 5>the time, and no one had really found their space yet, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and so nobody really had lives yet, and so we

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<v Speaker 5>just had more time for each other. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 5>we're not friends. We are all friends, but we just

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<v Speaker 5>like we were. We filmed fourteen hours a day, so

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<v Speaker 5>this very little time. That being said, like, I've just

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<v Speaker 5>created a new friendship with Jesse from BED. I see

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<v Speaker 5>like randon a Paytha, we're just over at my house.

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<v Speaker 5>Like there's just like this very little time, but we're

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<v Speaker 5>all very good friends.

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<v Speaker 1>A Patha that's a name, that's a law and Ordered

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<v Speaker 1>universe name drop huge, I mean a dick Wolf universe

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<v Speaker 1>name drop like just Y.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that's all I do this whole time, drop

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<v Speaker 5>and names, get ready to pick them up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you just had like.

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<v Speaker 1>The godmother of the Dickwolf universe at your house, No

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<v Speaker 1>big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you had her on this podcast? Because a Patha

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<v Speaker 3>is a you would not expect the person that a

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<v Speaker 3>Pitha is to come out of her. I mean, we'd

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<v Speaker 3>love it, we'd love it. We haven't had her. Just

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<v Speaker 3>got a potty mouth, like a real big potty mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode that you're in Delinquent SVU from like twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you start out with like a hot and

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<v Speaker 1>heavy makeout with this guy and then you find out

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<v Speaker 1>he's a Republican and you're like, audio.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny so good, it's crazy because.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, funny starts out anymore, Like I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like fun to have a little funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And also like it just feels like Delinquent is

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty eleven. It doesn't really feel like in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eleven people weren't like dating across.

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<v Speaker 3>The aisle, like I still feel like they.

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<v Speaker 1>Had James Carville and Mary Matt Matt whenever we were

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<v Speaker 1>like we were like, people are you know different on

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<v Speaker 1>my parents have friends where ones Republican and one's a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>And now today it's like what, like what that would

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<v Speaker 1>never happen? So like we always say, this show is

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<v Speaker 1>so like it's so like ahead of its it's so prescient,

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<v Speaker 1>like it always is like like showcasing issues that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's ahead of its time when it's doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, that was one of them, and I

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<v Speaker 3>loved that.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember that there's like certain you guys like I

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<v Speaker 5>hadn't I tough. There were certain scenes in that episode

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<v Speaker 5>that I was like, I don't remember filming that, but

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<v Speaker 5>I do remember when we started that the director goes

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<v Speaker 5>like right before he goes laugh and so to me,

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<v Speaker 5>I just hear me go.

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<v Speaker 3>Because like we start out laughing, and to me it.

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<v Speaker 5>Sounded like not real because he was just like laugh

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<v Speaker 5>or whoever was the director could laugh so that's the

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<v Speaker 5>only thing I could like focus on.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, ooh, I'm so fake.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, Well anyway, crazy because we have so many

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<v Speaker 1>people come on this podcast and we're like, sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>make you talk about something you did like ten fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, but you have also done two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty two episodes of a different Dick Wolf show since

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<v Speaker 1>you did that, So like, I would absolutely like imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't remember a lot of your SVU because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like been overlaid by other memories of your acting

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<v Speaker 1>on Gubble, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Had like a couple of memory. I have a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of member let us get in there. Yeah yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>now when we get there, tell us no.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the first one was that the laughter which

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<v Speaker 5>sounded like can laughter.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, I was like, that wasn't I would. I

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<v Speaker 3>wish I had come from a place of realness.

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<v Speaker 5>And then to me, what's interesting, Oh yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 5>a there's a part where I like barge into the

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<v Speaker 5>districts and I'm like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy trying to rate me. Yeah yeah, yeah. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>waiting in the background with Richard and Iced Tea.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think we're I think we're all waiting

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<v Speaker 5>back there, and I think Marishka had given me a note.

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<v Speaker 5>And you have to remember, like I'm much younger. I

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<v Speaker 5>was coming from theater and so like to me, it's

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<v Speaker 5>like you memorize the performance and that's what you do.

1:21:46.280 --> 1:21:47.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's what you give.

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<v Speaker 5>And now that I've been on a show for twelve years,

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<v Speaker 5>I realized that's not what camera is. You have to

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<v Speaker 5>be malleable, be ready to like accept in a different way.

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<v Speaker 5>And she'd give me a note and I was really

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<v Speaker 5>like embarrassed. I was really upset. And now that I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to show twelve years, I give notes all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>So, like I told, she.

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<v Speaker 5>Was totally in her right place and correct about her note,

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<v Speaker 5>but I couldn't get out of my shame of not

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<v Speaker 5>having done it right instead of accepting like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>doing it right, and Marishka knew how to do it right.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Richard said something to me to.

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<v Speaker 5>Help me because I was young and embarrassed and sort

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<v Speaker 5>of like got me out of my funk to like

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<v Speaker 5>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I didn't remember that I remember the note. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember the note.

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<v Speaker 5>It was probably about being too big, because that was

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of my notes because I came from theater

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<v Speaker 5>and I was still figuring out.

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<v Speaker 3>At Northwestern they don't teach the camera, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We we hear that about a lot of programs, like

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they've switched it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, they really haven't. I know, it really hasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It really haven't.

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<v Speaker 5>And actually after this, I go to Shy Arts, which

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<v Speaker 5>is a public high school in Chicago, to go teach

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<v Speaker 5>a junior's camera technique. Oh oh, it's totally it's a

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<v Speaker 5>totally different thing. And I think I was probably too

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<v Speaker 5>big and that was a shame. I carried with me

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<v Speaker 5>a lot like that. I'm like a clown, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And she probably said something about that, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>humiliated and she's was right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do remember that. Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to hang out with Iced Tea and Richard

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<v Speaker 2>Belzer in the in the wings.

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<v Speaker 5>Watching out with Coco. They did like a remember they

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<v Speaker 5>did a crossover. They came and she did she have

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<v Speaker 5>the baby? Like she had the baby, she had like

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<v Speaker 5>a little baby, Like, Yeah, I don't know, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been a lot of years with that. I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, we just spoke with someone for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>that mentioned going to his office in California. Like, what

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<v Speaker 2>have been your interactions with Dick Wolf or is he

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<v Speaker 2>just like kind of a Charlie's Angels figure in the distance. A.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, and B he has a dinner with us

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<v Speaker 5>at the start of every year. And for some reason,

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<v Speaker 5>I have social like anxiety and around especially on people

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm like don't know very well, and so like

1:23:55.600 --> 1:23:59.120
<v Speaker 5>I sat by him once by accident, and my cast

1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:00.880
<v Speaker 5>members have thought it's really funny to like put my

1:24:01.000 --> 1:24:05.040
<v Speaker 5>purse right next to him every year, like, like I

1:24:05.040 --> 1:24:06.960
<v Speaker 5>think Jesse Spencer a couple of years ago did it

1:24:06.960 --> 1:24:08.800
<v Speaker 5>to me too, Like I just like, I'm constantly with

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<v Speaker 5>Dick at these dinners and we share a surf and

1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:15.519
<v Speaker 5>turf so randomly. I mean, he's he's a really nice guy.

1:24:15.560 --> 1:24:17.040
<v Speaker 5>He's a powerful guy. You don't want to piss him off.

1:24:17.080 --> 1:24:20.400
<v Speaker 5>But he's a wonderful man. And yeah, he's like bit

1:24:20.520 --> 1:24:23.320
<v Speaker 5>Charlie's Angels a bit like And every year, at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of each dinner, can I curse on a pass?

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<v Speaker 3>Please?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Just adam, he says. At the end of each dinner,

1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:32.040
<v Speaker 5>he goes, don't fuck it up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so funny. That's RuPaul's catchphrase, Is it really? Yeah?

1:24:37.560 --> 1:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Ru Paul says good luck and don't fuck it up

1:24:39.640 --> 1:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>every episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>He always talks about how we have lightning in a bottle,

1:24:44.720 --> 1:24:46.840
<v Speaker 5>which is true, like we have a cass gets along,

1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:49.840
<v Speaker 5>we're all really hard workers, and he's always like, don't

1:24:49.840 --> 1:24:51.639
<v Speaker 5>that then, don't fuck we have lightning in a bottle,

1:24:51.720 --> 1:24:52.479
<v Speaker 5>don't fuck it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have like, besides going that kid trying to

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<v Speaker 1>write me, did you have any scenes with that freaky

1:24:57.720 --> 1:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>little kid that was your I mean, I'm sure he

1:24:59.720 --> 1:25:01.320
<v Speaker 1>was like a twenty five year old man playing a

1:25:01.360 --> 1:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old but.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy that uh, he was a ten. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also wearing like pink silk pantaloons like they

1:25:09.720 --> 1:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>were like bloomers.

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<v Speaker 3>Those were mine apparently that.

1:25:13.120 --> 1:25:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Makes but those yeah, yes, we're like, I know what

1:25:16.800 --> 1:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>a costume, the pink I know it's.

1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:23.439
<v Speaker 3>My cosplay of like a Bridgerton. How was it being

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<v Speaker 3>in court? How was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it that I do not remember?

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<v Speaker 5>I was like looking like I'm going to this class

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm going to be teaching musical theater students how

1:25:33.920 --> 1:25:34.720
<v Speaker 5>to act for Can't Run.

1:25:34.760 --> 1:25:37.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm like that is a hard wheel to turn, Like

1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:41.200
<v Speaker 3>it's like, can I be so cute seeing the students?

1:25:41.600 --> 1:25:43.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I've never been young. This is your

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<v Speaker 3>first son? Whoa yeah, yeah, yeah, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>All gonna they're all gonna be like god, I hope

1:25:49.880 --> 1:25:51.519
<v Speaker 1>I get it, and you're gonna be like tone it

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<v Speaker 1>like oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait I got you at seven negative yeah yeah. But

1:25:57.560 --> 1:26:00.519
<v Speaker 3>but I've been there, Like I've really been there.

1:26:00.560 --> 1:26:04.280
<v Speaker 5>I just remember I'm looking I was watching only me

1:26:04.600 --> 1:26:06.280
<v Speaker 5>when when the show was on it I'm in the

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<v Speaker 5>background in the court, and I'm like, am I like

1:26:08.560 --> 1:26:10.960
<v Speaker 5>commoting a little too much? Like my face had had

1:26:10.960 --> 1:26:15.360
<v Speaker 5>a reaction for everything that happens, and I was like, Gambrina.

1:26:15.400 --> 1:26:17.920
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny. You should tell your students this too.

1:26:18.040 --> 1:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Like we watched this show obviously so much, and then

1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>like we watch episodes over and over sometimes if we're

1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna cover it for like one of our live shows

1:26:25.120 --> 1:26:29.120
<v Speaker 1>or something, and we will always like notice some background

1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>person that's like background like doing so much, and you're

1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>like your background Like, but it's funny cause if you,

1:26:37.040 --> 1:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they might not pop to you the first

1:26:39.000 --> 1:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>time you're watching it, but if you're watching episodes over

1:26:40.720 --> 1:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and over you're like that woman is doing way too much.

1:26:44.040 --> 1:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Or like the other day, we had like a uniformed

1:26:46.200 --> 1:26:48.559
<v Speaker 1>cop on an episode who was like she just had

1:26:48.560 --> 1:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the most perfect diction, like a full actress, and was like,

1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the victim is at the hospital right now getting her

1:26:54.800 --> 1:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>rape kit. I was like, that's I just don't feel

1:26:56.680 --> 1:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>like that's how a New York City cop would talk.

1:26:58.479 --> 1:27:01.559
<v Speaker 3>But okay, you know, I'm glad you got the game girl.

1:27:02.720 --> 1:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just gonna say a lot of times when

1:27:04.360 --> 1:27:07.200
<v Speaker 5>we're filming, we have to do things over again because

1:27:07.200 --> 1:27:08.800
<v Speaker 5>of background, background being too big.

1:27:09.120 --> 1:27:12.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh so that's like a a oh, it's huge. It's

1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:14.160
<v Speaker 3>a huge thing. Yeah.

1:27:14.200 --> 1:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I had a friend who was on SNL one time

1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>as a background and she stared into the camera the

1:27:18.920 --> 1:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>entire time. He's like, you girl, look away, what are

1:27:22.479 --> 1:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you doing amazing?

1:27:24.000 --> 1:27:24.760
<v Speaker 3>That's so good.

1:27:25.280 --> 1:27:27.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Or the gesticulation stuff like because they're not allowed

1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:30.680
<v Speaker 5>to talk, right, Yeah, Like I've done it too. I

1:27:30.680 --> 1:27:33.400
<v Speaker 5>think it's really hard when you're like not talking to

1:27:33.560 --> 1:27:36.559
<v Speaker 5>just be like small and natural because you're like it's

1:27:36.600 --> 1:27:38.200
<v Speaker 5>my moment, but it's not.

1:27:38.360 --> 1:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, I was background one time and it's

1:27:43.320 --> 1:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>really hard.

1:27:43.800 --> 1:27:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Never again.

1:27:44.320 --> 1:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I was a stand in a step above, but I

1:27:47.040 --> 1:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>did have to do a lot of talking with a

1:27:48.800 --> 1:27:50.599
<v Speaker 1>glass of like pomegranate juice at a bar.

1:27:51.200 --> 1:27:52.880
<v Speaker 3>It was, you know, not for me.

1:27:53.960 --> 1:27:57.240
<v Speaker 2>But I was gonna see if you have memories from

1:27:57.280 --> 1:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>your second sv episode Daydream Believer crossover, the crossover with Dallas.

1:28:03.680 --> 1:28:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I literally was like I wasn't in one Dallas. Well,

1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:10.479
<v Speaker 3>that was when they did the Nadia. The whole Naughtia

1:28:10.520 --> 1:28:11.880
<v Speaker 3>thing was like the crossover.

1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>You know Dallas Roberts. Yeah, Dallas Robert creep, creepy creep.

1:28:16.280 --> 1:28:16.640
<v Speaker 3>You know what.

1:28:16.760 --> 1:28:18.720
<v Speaker 5>It's so funny that you say that, because Dallas is

1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:20.880
<v Speaker 5>so lovely and that's what we had him.

1:28:21.120 --> 1:28:23.639
<v Speaker 3>We also met him on a drunk night out.

1:28:23.840 --> 1:28:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, al we secured him on the podcast Everybody Meets Dallas.

1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Everybody Meets Dallas. We saw with our friends Dallas.

1:28:29.880 --> 1:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>And we were and we were like, you have to

1:28:31.360 --> 1:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>do our podcast, and he was like, yeah, no problem.

1:28:33.760 --> 1:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>But also I was like scared of him a little

1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>bit because he's such a scary. He's one of the

1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>top five scariest like killers. I feel like that they

1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>have on s view, so like it's I agree, you know,

1:28:43.400 --> 1:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>but most of the people we've talked to that are

1:28:45.080 --> 1:28:47.439
<v Speaker 1>nightmares on the show are the nicest people ever, So

1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, no, it was shocking.

1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:51.599
<v Speaker 2>We were like, did you just bring Yates to our friends?

1:28:51.640 --> 1:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Like we couldn't believe it.

1:28:52.800 --> 1:28:56.120
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I think he is one of those people

1:28:56.120 --> 1:28:58.680
<v Speaker 5>that makes me like more in the industry because you

1:28:58.760 --> 1:29:00.320
<v Speaker 5>want to be like, he's the kind of for I'm like,

1:29:00.840 --> 1:29:03.000
<v Speaker 5>if I wasn't in this crazy industry and like meeting

1:29:03.000 --> 1:29:05.240
<v Speaker 5>twenty people a day, I would be best friends with you.

1:29:05.400 --> 1:29:08.920
<v Speaker 5>I like liked him so much, and I was like, well,

1:29:08.960 --> 1:29:10.760
<v Speaker 5>never maintain this relationship.

1:29:10.880 --> 1:29:12.880
<v Speaker 3>You're over there, I'm here, Like it's just like but

1:29:13.000 --> 1:29:15.080
<v Speaker 3>like that's the nature of this what's so great?

1:29:15.160 --> 1:29:16.840
<v Speaker 5>You have best friends who are like a week and

1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:18.720
<v Speaker 5>then you then they phase out of your life and

1:29:18.760 --> 1:29:20.920
<v Speaker 5>maybe you do another show with them, but it's kind

1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:21.200
<v Speaker 5>of sad.

1:29:21.240 --> 1:29:23.120
<v Speaker 3>It's like summer camp for adults.

1:29:23.240 --> 1:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's yeah, because I was wondering, like, cause you're

1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>like your journey Dick wolf Wise is like you do

1:29:29.080 --> 1:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you do Criminal Intent and O nine, you do SVU

1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>in twenty eleven, and then three years later you were

1:29:32.800 --> 1:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>series regular on another show. So they obviously were like

1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Annie Meyers was doing something right. Obviously whoever you were

1:29:38.800 --> 1:29:41.639
<v Speaker 1>on criminal intent did not register with you or anyone else.

1:29:41.680 --> 1:29:45.640
<v Speaker 5>But no, it's funny about you know, two weeks, no,

1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:47.880
<v Speaker 5>maybe like two months before I got my role on

1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:53.200
<v Speaker 5>Chicago PD, I had been offered a role on Chicago Fire,

1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:55.439
<v Speaker 5>and I was not in a sort of place in

1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:57.479
<v Speaker 5>my career where I'd ever been offered a role. I

1:29:57.520 --> 1:29:59.080
<v Speaker 5>was like, oh my gosh, maybe this is where I'm

1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:01.719
<v Speaker 5>building to. And I was offered it on a Friday

1:30:01.760 --> 1:30:03.800
<v Speaker 5>and it was revoked up Monday. It was a three

1:30:03.840 --> 1:30:09.040
<v Speaker 5>episode arc, revoked, revoked, and I fell into just despair

1:30:09.200 --> 1:30:12.040
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, if I can't even get a

1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:14.000
<v Speaker 5>role that I didn't audition for, you.

1:30:13.960 --> 1:30:14.479
<v Speaker 4>Know what I mean?

1:30:14.760 --> 1:30:17.240
<v Speaker 3>You know you're you're when you're going dark. You'll take

1:30:17.280 --> 1:30:18.800
<v Speaker 3>anything dark and make it darker.

1:30:18.840 --> 1:30:20.600
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, if I can't even get a

1:30:20.680 --> 1:30:22.680
<v Speaker 5>roll that I didn't even audition for, how am I

1:30:22.680 --> 1:30:24.920
<v Speaker 5>going to make it in this industry? Like they took

1:30:24.920 --> 1:30:26.720
<v Speaker 5>it away from me, they didn't even see what I

1:30:26.720 --> 1:30:31.240
<v Speaker 5>could do. And then it's it really is. My one

1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:34.280
<v Speaker 5>door closes, a window opens, because had I done that?

1:30:34.360 --> 1:30:36.240
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't have been able to do Kim Burgess, which

1:30:36.280 --> 1:30:38.560
<v Speaker 5>is single heightedly changed my life.

1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:42.280
<v Speaker 3>So it's pretty great. So, but that was a moment

1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:43.719
<v Speaker 3>where I was almost on fire.

1:30:44.479 --> 1:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you still have still you have two dozen episodes

1:30:47.160 --> 1:30:47.599
<v Speaker 1>with fire.

1:30:48.479 --> 1:30:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean as my character, as my character. Yeah.

1:30:52.320 --> 1:30:57.639
<v Speaker 3>Well now that you are, you know, like a series regular.

1:30:57.680 --> 1:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>When you get these guest stars in do you think

1:31:00.040 --> 1:31:01.479
<v Speaker 2>about Marisha in the note?

1:31:01.520 --> 1:31:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Like, are you?

1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I do, like, I really do, what's your like, I

1:31:05.439 --> 1:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>don't know, vibe or attitude and the total hympocrit.

1:31:08.200 --> 1:31:11.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm a total hypocrit. I'm like, listen, you're doing

1:31:11.560 --> 1:31:18.760
<v Speaker 3>it wrong. No, I'm very I'm very business forward on set.

1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm nice. I'm very nice, but I'm very like, we're

1:31:21.120 --> 1:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>here to work, right.

1:31:24.040 --> 1:31:26.280
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes I'll help a guest star if I feel like

1:31:26.320 --> 1:31:29.400
<v Speaker 5>they really need it and it and it's just it

1:31:29.520 --> 1:31:33.400
<v Speaker 5>must feel so hard to get a note from another actor,

1:31:33.439 --> 1:31:35.760
<v Speaker 5>and I'm very sensitive to that, and so I do

1:31:35.840 --> 1:31:37.760
<v Speaker 5>try and be like, even though I'm professional, I'm like,

1:31:38.000 --> 1:31:40.439
<v Speaker 5>I love what you're doing, but like the camera isn't

1:31:40.439 --> 1:31:43.040
<v Speaker 5>going to catch it right. Or sometimes they're like, especially

1:31:43.080 --> 1:31:45.040
<v Speaker 5>if they're in theater and it's their first rold whatever

1:31:45.200 --> 1:31:47.600
<v Speaker 5>they're they're solving and everything, and the cameras on me

1:31:47.640 --> 1:31:49.240
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, listen, I know you think you're going

1:31:49.280 --> 1:31:52.280
<v Speaker 5>to have this energy in two hours when we turn around,

1:31:52.280 --> 1:31:52.760
<v Speaker 5>but you're not.

1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>You're drying a light tear ducks.

1:31:55.080 --> 1:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:31:55.360 --> 1:31:57.360
<v Speaker 5>I was like, just I promise you, just save it.

1:31:57.400 --> 1:32:01.200
<v Speaker 5>You've given me all I need. Like things like that. Also,

1:32:01.240 --> 1:32:02.880
<v Speaker 5>one of the hard things with guest stars is like

1:32:02.960 --> 1:32:06.160
<v Speaker 5>you have a you have a couple of lines, and

1:32:06.200 --> 1:32:08.400
<v Speaker 5>you've memorized it exactly how you want to do it,

1:32:08.560 --> 1:32:11.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, and you need to when you're with another actor.

1:32:11.680 --> 1:32:12.360
<v Speaker 3>You need to be.

1:32:12.439 --> 1:32:15.559
<v Speaker 5>Loose and relaxed and ready to play. And that's hard,

1:32:15.640 --> 1:32:17.840
<v Speaker 5>especially we get a lot of theater actors. It's hard.

1:32:17.840 --> 1:32:20.160
<v Speaker 5>It's hard to do because you have this moment and

1:32:20.160 --> 1:32:21.920
<v Speaker 5>you don't want to screw it up and it's your

1:32:21.920 --> 1:32:25.040
<v Speaker 5>first time on set. So I try and play with them,

1:32:25.160 --> 1:32:29.080
<v Speaker 5>or I'll sometimes I'll scream that sounds awful, But like

1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:31.800
<v Speaker 5>sometimes I'll be like just totally mix it up to

1:32:31.880 --> 1:32:34.400
<v Speaker 5>like give up something to react to. If they're too nervous,

1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:38.080
<v Speaker 5>I'll just do the part completely differently to make to

1:32:38.280 --> 1:32:40.479
<v Speaker 5>force them I'll do.

1:32:40.680 --> 1:32:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of tricks. I have a lot

1:32:42.000 --> 1:32:42.439
<v Speaker 3>of tricks.

1:32:43.200 --> 1:32:46.360
<v Speaker 5>And I feel like poor poor Murrish guy was in

1:32:46.400 --> 1:32:47.840
<v Speaker 5>like a bad mood after one note and.

1:32:47.840 --> 1:32:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile I'm here like this is what I do with

1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:50.280
<v Speaker 3>guest stars one two?

1:32:51.080 --> 1:32:51.280
<v Speaker 5>You know?

1:32:53.320 --> 1:32:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I think it's really the to reaque.

1:32:56.720 --> 1:33:00.479
<v Speaker 5>I think was on your podcast to something and he

1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:04.960
<v Speaker 5>was like, got a note from a Stabler and was like,

1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:06.000
<v Speaker 5>they're so seasoned.

1:33:06.000 --> 1:33:07.760
<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing. It's like, we really know the show.

1:33:07.840 --> 1:33:10.000
<v Speaker 5>We know what they're looking for, we know how to

1:33:10.040 --> 1:33:14.960
<v Speaker 5>do this, and so we help guest stars along or

1:33:15.000 --> 1:33:17.000
<v Speaker 5>we secretly whisper to the director and to help the

1:33:17.040 --> 1:33:17.840
<v Speaker 5>guest start law.

1:33:18.760 --> 1:33:22.799
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sorry, Chicago PD is in just season thirteen

1:33:22.920 --> 1:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>has just got picked up. So are you like a

1:33:25.960 --> 1:33:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Maurushka Hargatay where if this baby keeps going into like

1:33:28.479 --> 1:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>season twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, you're there for

1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:32.679
<v Speaker 1>the ride, I think.

1:33:32.720 --> 1:33:35.040
<v Speaker 5>So I think I've really like filled that space and

1:33:35.840 --> 1:33:40.080
<v Speaker 5>I've gotten my character to I've become a character I

1:33:40.120 --> 1:33:42.760
<v Speaker 5>think that has really grown. And I think when a

1:33:42.840 --> 1:33:47.880
<v Speaker 5>character changes that allows me to have longevity. And I

1:33:47.880 --> 1:33:49.639
<v Speaker 5>don't know, it's been so great and such a great

1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:51.559
<v Speaker 5>experience that like, I hope I'm there at the end.

1:33:52.040 --> 1:33:53.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Broadcast television is in.

1:33:53.600 --> 1:33:55.400
<v Speaker 5>Like a weird space, so I have no idea what

1:33:55.479 --> 1:33:58.120
<v Speaker 5>the future is, but I hope I'm there with it.

1:33:58.320 --> 1:34:00.600
<v Speaker 5>Although I'm on a show with guns, you never know

1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:03.479
<v Speaker 5>what's gonna have. Can't get too cocky.

1:34:04.920 --> 1:34:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Wait, you know what I'm still suck on is having

1:34:08.040 --> 1:34:09.960
<v Speaker 2>a full pair of legal day job and then running

1:34:09.960 --> 1:34:11.639
<v Speaker 2>off to Broadway like.

1:34:11.560 --> 1:34:14.280
<v Speaker 3>That I did during season one of Chicago b D

1:34:14.400 --> 1:34:15.640
<v Speaker 3>as well. I was like, I don't know if this

1:34:15.680 --> 1:34:16.479
<v Speaker 3>thing has likes.

1:34:16.760 --> 1:34:19.720
<v Speaker 5>So I was a real estate pair legal and I

1:34:19.720 --> 1:34:21.800
<v Speaker 5>had to put in thirty hours a week in order

1:34:21.800 --> 1:34:24.080
<v Speaker 5>to keep my job in benefits because I was like

1:34:24.200 --> 1:34:27.200
<v Speaker 5>it was a mid season pickup and my husband was

1:34:27.200 --> 1:34:29.200
<v Speaker 5>living in New York and I was living here. I

1:34:29.240 --> 1:34:32.360
<v Speaker 5>was living in a basement apartment with a married couple

1:34:32.439 --> 1:34:35.400
<v Speaker 5>of my friends of mine and just sort of like

1:34:35.439 --> 1:34:36.599
<v Speaker 5>paying seven hundred dollars for.

1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:39.479
<v Speaker 3>A bedroom and being like, I don't know if this

1:34:39.640 --> 1:34:41.719
<v Speaker 3>is going to work. I didn't.

1:34:42.560 --> 1:34:44.360
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know, And like I you know, I lived

1:34:44.360 --> 1:34:46.240
<v Speaker 5>in New York and I had a big rent and

1:34:46.520 --> 1:34:48.240
<v Speaker 5>so yeah. So I kept it for a while and

1:34:48.240 --> 1:34:49.840
<v Speaker 5>then I think it was Jesse Lee so Soffer who

1:34:49.880 --> 1:34:52.080
<v Speaker 5>was like, you have to quit. Okay, you're in season

1:34:52.120 --> 1:34:54.599
<v Speaker 5>two of a Dick Wolf show. Yeah, but wait one

1:34:54.800 --> 1:34:56.840
<v Speaker 5>very riskily conservative for an actor.

1:34:56.880 --> 1:34:59.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, really type A. So I gave me fun

1:34:59.640 --> 1:35:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm a lot.

1:35:00.600 --> 1:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>That's good now, But when you're I was just gonna say,

1:35:04.000 --> 1:35:05.280
<v Speaker 1>what did you do on Broadway?

1:35:05.560 --> 1:35:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Did you do musicals or did you do plays or

1:35:07.840 --> 1:35:08.439
<v Speaker 3>what was.

1:35:08.880 --> 1:35:11.360
<v Speaker 5>I did a play by Casey Nicolau who did a

1:35:11.520 --> 1:35:14.680
<v Speaker 5>Book of Mormon, and I played a role. It was

1:35:14.680 --> 1:35:16.479
<v Speaker 5>like a it's based on a movie, and I played

1:35:16.479 --> 1:35:19.400
<v Speaker 5>a role like that's sort of the dumb blonde and

1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:19.960
<v Speaker 5>I had a.

1:35:19.960 --> 1:35:20.599
<v Speaker 3>Whist like this.

1:35:20.800 --> 1:35:24.439
<v Speaker 5>I was sort of like, I think Grasspberry is the

1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:29.479
<v Speaker 5>king of the soft fruit. And the day before opening,

1:35:29.680 --> 1:35:32.160
<v Speaker 5>the head of the theater comes up to me, she

1:35:32.240 --> 1:35:35.559
<v Speaker 5>goes do it without the voice, and so I was

1:35:35.600 --> 1:35:39.720
<v Speaker 5>like totally thrown because I had memorized my performance at

1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:40.200
<v Speaker 5>that point.

1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:43.599
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, I think Raspberry is the king

1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:44.639
<v Speaker 3>of the soft fruit.

1:35:45.200 --> 1:35:47.759
<v Speaker 5>Like not funny at all, lands with a lead balloon,

1:35:47.960 --> 1:35:50.000
<v Speaker 5>like it was really hard to figure that out.

1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:51.200
<v Speaker 3>As we were opening.

1:35:51.960 --> 1:35:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't the person say it during any other rehearsal,

1:35:56.600 --> 1:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>during dress Like, is this a hater? I know, but

1:36:00.720 --> 1:36:03.160
<v Speaker 2>what a fucking weird thing to do on opening night.

1:36:03.280 --> 1:36:05.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like a villain in a movie before opening. Yeah. Yeah,

1:36:05.840 --> 1:36:07.519
<v Speaker 3>yeah it was yeah.

1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:09.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. It wasn't great. You know, it wasn't a great show,

1:36:09.640 --> 1:36:10.800
<v Speaker 5>but it was a great experience. It was a good

1:36:10.880 --> 1:36:14.360
<v Speaker 5>learning experience. And I hope to be back on Broadway

1:36:14.400 --> 1:36:16.800
<v Speaker 5>because I would not like that to be my final time.

1:36:17.960 --> 1:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>No, but like, when you're on break from the show,

1:36:19.920 --> 1:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>are you ready for your downtime, family time chilling or

1:36:23.560 --> 1:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>are you like, oh, I want to book something or

1:36:25.400 --> 1:36:28.280
<v Speaker 2>do a theater do what's your energy when you're off

1:36:28.800 --> 1:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>the show?

1:36:29.280 --> 1:36:32.160
<v Speaker 5>Both, as you can see my audition camera light, it's

1:36:32.240 --> 1:36:36.200
<v Speaker 5>right there, it's both. I want auditions. I want it,

1:36:36.520 --> 1:36:38.559
<v Speaker 5>I want all the roles. And as soon as I audition,

1:36:38.640 --> 1:36:40.559
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh my gosh, these relax.

1:36:41.840 --> 1:36:43.840
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, I'm both I want auditions and I

1:36:43.880 --> 1:36:44.479
<v Speaker 3>don't want them.

1:36:44.520 --> 1:36:48.120
<v Speaker 5>But I hustle. I'm still a hustler. I still I write,

1:36:48.360 --> 1:36:49.679
<v Speaker 5>I do all the things.

1:36:49.880 --> 1:36:53.519
<v Speaker 2>And then do people recognize you around Chicago? Are people pumps.

1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh yeah.

1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:57.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean in Chicago, I'm a big fish in and

1:36:57.840 --> 1:37:00.680
<v Speaker 5>like in New York, nobody cares well.

1:37:00.760 --> 1:37:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I like, I think in New York nobody

1:37:02.680 --> 1:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>cares at all, Like I've passed Julianne Moore on the

1:37:05.880 --> 1:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>street walking down, like nobody's doing anything, you know.

1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:10.519
<v Speaker 3>And then in La it's more like I think.

1:37:10.320 --> 1:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>People are like want to bother you because they're like, well,

1:37:13.400 --> 1:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm here in your Disney world of celebrity people, so

1:37:16.160 --> 1:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>can I talk to the characters?

1:37:18.240 --> 1:37:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's funny, yeah yeah, yeah.

1:37:19.960 --> 1:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>No.

1:37:20.080 --> 1:37:23.240
<v Speaker 3>In Chicago we're very big. We get recognized a lot.

1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:27.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, I have to sort of I don't. I

1:37:27.120 --> 1:37:27.719
<v Speaker 3>don't walk.

1:37:27.560 --> 1:37:30.080
<v Speaker 5>Around stylish or with makeup on, and so sometimes it's

1:37:30.120 --> 1:37:32.240
<v Speaker 5>like a little soul crushing to take a photo because

1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:32.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to say no.

1:37:33.000 --> 1:37:34.640
<v Speaker 3>But I'm also like I just came from my mom

1:37:34.760 --> 1:37:35.680
<v Speaker 3>dance class.

1:37:35.680 --> 1:37:38.400
<v Speaker 5>Like I don't really love to not do a selfie

1:37:38.479 --> 1:37:39.040
<v Speaker 5>right this second.

1:37:39.080 --> 1:37:40.800
<v Speaker 3>I was like, if you catch me right after work,

1:37:40.840 --> 1:37:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to, you know, Yay. She was fun.

1:37:47.520 --> 1:37:50.519
<v Speaker 1>She was like a regular person. It was so like

1:37:50.560 --> 1:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>a conda grounded.

1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:53.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, well, I brought her up to Ted,

1:37:53.760 --> 1:37:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, my acting coach, and he was like, I'm

1:37:56.640 --> 1:37:59.680
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with her. They did like what is it Westtown?

1:38:00.520 --> 1:38:03.840
<v Speaker 2>What's the Williamstown? Williamstown. They've done Williamstown together and he's

1:38:03.840 --> 1:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>known her for a long time and yeah, I was

1:38:07.000 --> 1:38:07.760
<v Speaker 2>like awesome.

1:38:08.320 --> 1:38:08.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:38:08.600 --> 1:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I also talked to this guy I know who owns

1:38:11.040 --> 1:38:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a comedy venue in LA and he went to Northwestern

1:38:13.800 --> 1:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>with her and is like, I just saw her at

1:38:15.400 --> 1:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>our reunion and she's just one of those people you

1:38:17.200 --> 1:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>see her and you're like, yeah, we're gonna have fun,

1:38:19.120 --> 1:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Like she's really He just was like, I love her,

1:38:20.920 --> 1:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>She's great.

1:38:21.479 --> 1:38:24.400
<v Speaker 2>She was just down in a person and really theatery,

1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>like acting like ten hours for an audition. I've been

1:38:26.680 --> 1:38:32.040
<v Speaker 2>talking about that nonstup but in a not pretentious way. Fine, cool.

1:38:32.240 --> 1:38:35.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it was a really invigorating interview.

1:38:35.880 --> 1:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I would say yes, because I definitely think there's a

1:38:38.240 --> 1:38:41.240
<v Speaker 1>fine line of people talking about quote unquote the craft

1:38:41.479 --> 1:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and not and not sounding pretentious, and like she's definitely

1:38:44.800 --> 1:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>firmly on the side of not being pretentious.

1:38:46.960 --> 1:38:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I agree, Yeah, that was fun.

1:38:49.880 --> 1:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I also I do have the playbill and it does

1:38:51.920 --> 1:38:54.519
<v Speaker 1>not say SVU, so dr.

1:38:54.640 --> 1:38:55.360
<v Speaker 3>You're not proud.

1:38:55.439 --> 1:38:57.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was twenty five years ago. She just

1:38:57.520 --> 1:38:58.960
<v Speaker 1>does too much that's current.

1:38:59.000 --> 1:39:01.519
<v Speaker 2>But she also is just you know, this is her

1:39:01.520 --> 1:39:05.080
<v Speaker 2>eleventh Tony nomination, so like the theater of it all

1:39:06.200 --> 1:39:08.880
<v Speaker 2>is in there. But I mean with Patti Lapone, like

1:39:08.960 --> 1:39:11.200
<v Speaker 2>for five hundred people to sign a thing wanting you

1:39:11.280 --> 1:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>to not be invited to the Tonys is like I

1:39:14.080 --> 1:39:15.679
<v Speaker 2>wonder how she's like feeling.

1:39:16.360 --> 1:39:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Not that it matters, but.

1:39:17.840 --> 1:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought her apology was like pretty well written. She

1:39:20.960 --> 1:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, listen, I'm a I'm a loud mouth bitch

1:39:24.000 --> 1:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and I know when to say sorry.

1:39:26.040 --> 1:39:27.800
<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't have. I should have said what I said,

1:39:27.880 --> 1:39:28.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, like.

1:39:28.320 --> 1:39:30.439
<v Speaker 2>She but it's because of the back lat But it

1:39:30.560 --> 1:39:33.560
<v Speaker 2>wasn't because she's sorry. It's not like she listened to

1:39:33.640 --> 1:39:36.720
<v Speaker 2>a black people saying like it's fucked up what you're doing.

1:39:36.840 --> 1:39:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's an email to her publicist that goes, sure,

1:39:39.720 --> 1:39:41.720
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, slap my name on it, like she didn't

1:39:41.760 --> 1:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>even write it, you know.

1:39:42.840 --> 1:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm sure she's pissed because she has been acting

1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:46.439
<v Speaker 2>like this for forever. But I think because I've been

1:39:46.439 --> 1:39:48.439
<v Speaker 2>watching just a lot of black creaders talking about it,

1:39:48.880 --> 1:39:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like you could have listened a long

1:39:52.200 --> 1:39:54.639
<v Speaker 2>time ago, and you've gotten away with this horrible attitude,

1:39:54.680 --> 1:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>which none of us could have gotten away with Yah.

1:39:56.760 --> 1:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>For so long. But she is a legend. I've just

1:39:59.080 --> 1:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>never said that's not tr true. Of course we've seen it,

1:40:00.960 --> 1:40:04.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's usually like sexual abusers, but even they get defended.

1:40:04.680 --> 1:40:07.479
<v Speaker 1>I've just never seen someone like that quick overnight, like

1:40:08.200 --> 1:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>go fuck yourself.

1:40:10.000 --> 1:40:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like Patty, but yeah, I mean.

1:40:15.320 --> 1:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Because the whole thing with the Hell's Kitchen where it

1:40:17.400 --> 1:40:19.160
<v Speaker 2>was like too loud, they were sharing the wall and

1:40:19.200 --> 1:40:21.599
<v Speaker 2>it was too loud. But then it's like, but then

1:40:21.600 --> 1:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>they fixed the music, So why would you still be

1:40:23.960 --> 1:40:24.639
<v Speaker 2>talking about it?

1:40:25.040 --> 1:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it definitely it's it's giving Boomer microaggressive energy.

1:40:30.040 --> 1:40:31.599
<v Speaker 3>For sure, it totally is.

1:40:31.600 --> 1:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>But it's like I love her talking about Madonna and

1:40:34.080 --> 1:40:34.759
<v Speaker 2>watch what happens.

1:40:34.880 --> 1:40:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like talking about Trump.

1:40:36.920 --> 1:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I like hearing her talk shit about everybody else, just

1:40:39.200 --> 1:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>not her colleagues. Yeah, not in print calling a black

1:40:43.360 --> 1:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>woman not a VET bitch, like what but I don't know,

1:40:48.760 --> 1:40:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, Well, postmortem on this episode to

1:40:54.120 --> 1:40:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Rita Wilson, really not a good mom, not a good

1:40:57.640 --> 1:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>hashtag boy mom, not a good like just literally like, okay,

1:41:02.000 --> 1:41:05.240
<v Speaker 1>let's cover up your molestation from your babysitter. And I'm

1:41:05.240 --> 1:41:08.599
<v Speaker 1>actually gonna be extra rude and mean to you. And

1:41:08.640 --> 1:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>he turned into a little socio. But I, like I

1:41:13.240 --> 1:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>said in the at the end of the episode, I

1:41:15.200 --> 1:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>don't trust that Hunter is gonna be okay after this.

1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think killing his babysitter, Uh, shake that all

1:41:21.960 --> 1:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>out of him. Yeah, I serving life, and he'll probably

1:41:24.840 --> 1:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>honestly run something in prison. He's he's very manipulative, you know.

1:41:30.840 --> 1:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh so maybe he'll have his own little crew or something.

1:41:33.960 --> 1:41:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, or he'll learn what the real world's like when

1:41:36.840 --> 1:41:38.799
<v Speaker 2>you're not pampered by your rich mommy.

1:41:38.920 --> 1:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean. My prison.

1:41:42.280 --> 1:41:45.439
<v Speaker 1>She's a marketing executive. No, no marketing executives to help

1:41:45.439 --> 1:41:46.559
<v Speaker 1>you on the in the joint now.

1:41:46.640 --> 1:41:50.320
<v Speaker 2>But this was a good episode for sure in terms

1:41:50.320 --> 1:41:54.200
<v Speaker 2>of bad parenting. Stabler just like have a witness, why

1:41:54.200 --> 1:41:55.720
<v Speaker 2>would you continue booking him?

1:41:56.040 --> 1:41:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1:41:56.680 --> 1:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh and we didn't even like talk about Mariska at

1:41:59.320 --> 1:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the next game.

1:42:00.080 --> 1:42:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, No, that's not what I meant.

1:42:02.840 --> 1:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>But I was just gonna say, this is Maloney's penultimate episode,

1:42:07.400 --> 1:42:09.720
<v Speaker 1>like this is his second to last episode, and in

1:42:09.760 --> 1:42:13.760
<v Speaker 1>this episode, it's like they're in investigating him for possibly

1:42:13.800 --> 1:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>touching a kid, and he's like, are you fucking kidding me?

1:42:16.120 --> 1:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like it's part of the build up

1:42:18.080 --> 1:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to him leaving, is like, really, are you kidding? Like

1:42:21.880 --> 1:42:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I've been in this for so long, I've never once

1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:26.400
<v Speaker 1>been like accused of touching a kid, and now this

1:42:26.439 --> 1:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>little sociopath comes in here and you guys think I

1:42:28.479 --> 1:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>touched him?

1:42:29.120 --> 1:42:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, I could see why.

1:42:31.240 --> 1:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>That's how they're building up to, like him having multiple

1:42:35.520 --> 1:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>reasons to get the fuck out of SVU, not just

1:42:38.520 --> 1:42:42.840
<v Speaker 1>that our friend's girlfriend busted into the precinct and shot

1:42:42.880 --> 1:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people dead, including Sister Peg. But you

1:42:46.680 --> 1:42:49.639
<v Speaker 1>know that was definitely the straw that broke the big

1:42:49.680 --> 1:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>ass on Maloney. But yeah, an awesome episode, a chilling

1:42:54.280 --> 1:42:56.760
<v Speaker 1>true crime. Should we move on to what Sister Peg do?

1:42:56.960 --> 1:42:59.599
<v Speaker 3>Okay? And I knew it and I was looking it up.

1:42:59.760 --> 1:43:02.559
<v Speaker 2>And the guy who the prison guard who ends up

1:43:02.640 --> 1:43:07.679
<v Speaker 2>raping Penstucky? Who is her boy the boyfriend he's in Gypsy?

1:43:08.479 --> 1:43:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh really?

1:43:09.200 --> 1:43:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, James meccanamon get a better name, No, JK yeah,

1:43:14.320 --> 1:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I was watching him. It's a smaller part, like he

1:43:16.000 --> 1:43:19.760
<v Speaker 2>plays a few characters in the ensemble, but I was like,

1:43:19.880 --> 1:43:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I think I know him.

1:43:22.360 --> 1:43:25.599
<v Speaker 3>He's got a really specific look. He's very squirrely looking.

1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:28.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, he wasn't squirrely in this, but I'm trying

1:43:28.640 --> 1:43:31.200
<v Speaker 2>to look in his because he's in SVU and it

1:43:31.040 --> 1:43:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't say it.

1:43:33.320 --> 1:43:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh he I believe.

1:43:35.800 --> 1:43:38.439
<v Speaker 1>I believe he is in an episode where they beat

1:43:38.479 --> 1:43:41.720
<v Speaker 1>up unhoused people, Like, I think he's in that episode

1:43:42.160 --> 1:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>where like and then that leads to something else, remember

1:43:44.920 --> 1:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>when they do like bum fights or something like that.

1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>You're right, he's in Babes. You're totally right. And yeah,

1:43:50.400 --> 1:43:51.519
<v Speaker 1>he's like a red herring.

1:43:51.760 --> 1:43:53.640
<v Speaker 3>He's also in townhouse incident.

1:43:54.240 --> 1:43:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yes, Oh my god. Oh but I gotta

1:43:58.680 --> 1:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>tell you really quick before we we like wrap up.

1:44:01.680 --> 1:44:02.040
<v Speaker 3>I did.

1:44:02.120 --> 1:44:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I was on John Hill's radio show yesterday and is yeah,

1:44:06.400 --> 1:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>very sexy internet man who has shows on radio Andy.

1:44:10.000 --> 1:44:13.280
<v Speaker 1>He's like on Andy Cohen's podcast as his like you

1:44:13.320 --> 1:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>know ed McMahon. He quizzed me on SVU stuff, but

1:44:18.000 --> 1:44:20.040
<v Speaker 1>his producer made the quiz and I think she used

1:44:20.080 --> 1:44:24.479
<v Speaker 1>chat GPT and they were wrong about so many things,

1:44:24.560 --> 1:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like they go, oh, they were telling they were doing

1:44:27.000 --> 1:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>like a game that you and I have done at

1:44:28.360 --> 1:44:31.080
<v Speaker 1>our shows. Is this real or is this an SVU plot?

1:44:31.120 --> 1:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Like is I mean, is this an sv plot? Or

1:44:32.640 --> 1:44:34.519
<v Speaker 1>did I make this up? And there was this one

1:44:34.600 --> 1:44:36.679
<v Speaker 1>that was clearly the plot of Alternate with Cynthia Nixon

1:44:36.680 --> 1:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and I go, that episode's called Alternate, It's Cynthia Nixon

1:44:39.600 --> 1:44:42.679
<v Speaker 1>and like, I explained the whole thing, and then he goes, oh, great,

1:44:42.800 --> 1:44:43.360
<v Speaker 1>really close.

1:44:43.400 --> 1:44:45.040
<v Speaker 3>It's called Savant. I go, no, it's not.

1:44:45.200 --> 1:44:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Savant is an episode where a girl has a special

1:44:47.280 --> 1:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>disorder where she has perfect pitch and she hears her

1:44:49.960 --> 1:44:52.599
<v Speaker 1>mother getting murdered and she can identify the man who

1:44:52.640 --> 1:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>did it because she has perfect pitch and she can

1:44:54.120 --> 1:44:57.320
<v Speaker 1>hear it in the next room. And he was like wow. Yeah.

1:44:57.360 --> 1:44:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm sorry, your Chatgypt isn't correct.

1:45:00.600 --> 1:45:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And everyone that told us that we had

1:45:03.080 --> 1:45:05.840
<v Speaker 2>an ad with chat GBT we have taken care of

1:45:06.000 --> 1:45:08.599
<v Speaker 2>We're a very anti AI podcast.

1:45:08.720 --> 1:45:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, we've taken care of it, but thank you

1:45:12.280 --> 1:45:14.240
<v Speaker 1>for flagging it. And if you ever find a weird

1:45:14.360 --> 1:45:16.479
<v Speaker 1>ad on our podcast, definitely let us know.

1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:18.200
<v Speaker 3>If it's like an ad for something that we would

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<v Speaker 3>not support.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm against so many things, but I am so against

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<v Speaker 2>AI and chat GBT and this is why.

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<v Speaker 3>And for him, you, oh no, it's savant. How dare you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like his producer made the quiz and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at her and I was just like, girl, like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is all stuff that like, you know, you can google, like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not you know, but yeah, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I caught him on like three things that were incorrect

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<v Speaker 1>on this as for you quiz, and it was very

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<v Speaker 1>satisfying but also reinforce the mental illness I have where

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<v Speaker 1>I basically cataloged the plot of five hundred plus episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of a television show.

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<v Speaker 3>In my mind. Okay, do I remember what happened during

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<v Speaker 3>the Renaissance?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I remember anything about geography? Not really? Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 3>move into what would Sister PEG do this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is our weekly segment where we point you towards

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<v Speaker 1>a resource, an article, a book, a documentary, something to

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<v Speaker 1>give you more info about what we talked about. And

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<v Speaker 1>for this week, I wanted to point you towards this

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<v Speaker 1>show that's called Making a Serial Killer, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>most of you would probably just enjoy in general and specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>Season two, episode nine covers Cody Lejebikov, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I covered in the True Crime. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>more information about quote unquote Canada's youngest serial killer and

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<v Speaker 1>this convicted psychopath, please check it out. And the link

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<v Speaker 1>that I put in the show notes is to Amazon Prime,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also available on like two B and free V.

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<v Speaker 3>And Peacock and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have a lot of options making a serial killer,

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<v Speaker 1>and that will be in our show notes and linked

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<v Speaker 1>in our stories, which is on our Instagram that's messed

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<v Speaker 1>Up pod and those are get saved in a highlight

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<v Speaker 1>called WWSPD. We've just moved on to our third WWSPD highlights,

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<v Speaker 1>so check those out.

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<v Speaker 2>I also remembered I went to Emmy Blattak's special recording.

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<v Speaker 3>It was incredible, Oh amazing, tackling the night away. God,

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<v Speaker 3>I was laughing. She is funny. God, I was laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not gonna laugh. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I also did a twenty six year old Indian girl's

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<v Speaker 2>birthday party for all her cousins and friends and exes

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<v Speaker 2>and like it was at five pm at five pan god, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out if any of them are listening JK.

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<v Speaker 1>They would never they had no respect for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, next week's episodes, we will be doing double Man Up,

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<v Speaker 2>Man Down, Season twenty, Episodes one and two. A Doozy,

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<v Speaker 2>A Doozy. Thanks for watching. We're obsessed with all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go basketball JK. I don't care now that and Rowlins

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<v Speaker 2>are out. Bye guys, Bye listening.

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