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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, this is media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders dropping wisdom and offerings on

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Speaker 1: the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host

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Speaker 1: Newey Scrugs Mini match. That's right, Tuesday, Cowboys are off,

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Speaker 1: but there's still Cowboys issues to talk back because we've

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Speaker 1: got a trade and let's dive into it with John

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Speaker 1: Macholda of the Athletics, Patrick Walker of Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, give fans the whole lowdown on Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Hankin's defensive tackle from the Raiders. They trade a seventh

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Speaker 1: round picked to him in his tenth year. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: mister Walker, six three, three hundred forty pounds of football

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Speaker 1: playing human. Cowboys know him well from his year spent

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Speaker 1: with the New York Giants, former top draft pick of

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Speaker 1: the Giants head one short state one year in Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: en route to Los Angeles, Mos Vegas, where he's been

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Speaker 1: the past couple of seasons thirty starts. In the two

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Speaker 1: previous seasons, he's been active in five games. And you

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Speaker 1: wanted a big buddy to drop in front of that

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Speaker 1: Quinnon this defense they're going up against the Bears, the

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Speaker 1: offense that put up almost two hundred and fifty yards

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt that Jerry Jones and companies saw

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Speaker 1: that and we're like, well, we were already talking with

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Speaker 1: Vegas about doing it. Pull the trigger and so here

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Speaker 1: we are. There we go. Yeah. I would say the

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Speaker 1: beginning of when you see this come down, is all right,

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Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore just was inactive on Sunday. What does this

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Speaker 1: mean for Neville Gallimore? And I'll say that just from

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Speaker 1: people that I've been in contact with in the last

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it necessarily means, oh, Neville Gallimore

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Speaker 1: a first second down player. Jonathan Hankins is Neville Gallimore

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Speaker 1: is paid to get after the passer um interesting that

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Speaker 1: They're two monitor as we go forward, But that's Hankins

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Speaker 1: is here too. And here's the thing. He's not even

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Speaker 1: up uh blockers, let your linebackers run free. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a guy that that really does the dirty work.

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Speaker 1: That's that's why you add a guy like that. And

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Speaker 1: um and then frankly, I'm just I'm not one of

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Speaker 1: these big Oh the value of a six seventh round pick,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. You know those laws, Yeah yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean they can hit me. Maybe you get a quitin Bohannah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna yeah, okay, and you can. You

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Speaker 1: can go ahead and put those names over here then

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Speaker 1: you know what I wonder too, is, you know, a

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna he's gonna be on a rotation here.

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Speaker 1: love that you said that, John, because in the write

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Speaker 1: I specifically noted that because he's coming into a defensive

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Speaker 1: So so then we see the twitter, the whole bunch

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Speaker 1: And again, I don't think Nevil would have stopped short

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Speaker 1: When you heard about the trade, what were your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it pans out, but you can't say

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Speaker 1: against the run. Going back to March, just gonna throw

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Speaker 1: other teams. Cowboys. Since March, I've added Dante Fowler, James Washington,

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Speaker 1: take a receiver in the top three, they usually hit

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Speaker 1: top three rounds. Yeah, Alexander, Yeah, top three rounds. Sorry,

429
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Speaker 1: it was terrible, but that's a pretty good that's a

430
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Speaker 1: pretty good mark. And I guess the only thing I

431
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: can take away from what you said is stay away

432
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Speaker 1: from the small school guys, right, I mean, it's too

433
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 1: soon to try to write them. Yeah. No, no, for sure.

434
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Speaker 1: And these are old guys. I'm talking year one. I mean,

435
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith is on this list. I'm Jimmy Smith if

436
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Speaker 1: I mean what he was your one with the Cowboys

437
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: and what he ended up becoming our night and day.

438
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying you're one. I'm just saying, I

439
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 1: bet you they were expecting not I bet you. I

440
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: know they were expecting more there, and if you have

441
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: more there, we're probably not having this. Jimmy was really

442
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: an afterthought. I'm so old. I was at the practices

443
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: in Austin, and I remembered during a break and you know,

444
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: they were Super Bowl champs. This Michael being Michael, he

445
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: basically telled all the wide receivers, you know, you guys

446
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: aren't getting much hill. Good luck. Jimmy Smith was one

447
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: of those guys on a knee, just kind of listening,

448
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, Jimmy went on to have a fantastic

449
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Speaker 1: career with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah, they missed. So I'm

450
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I didn't remember step Frett Williams. I

451
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: had an I think I had an old football card,

452
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: but I couldn't tell you like what he did actually

453
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Speaker 1: on the fields. I mean, just even having this conversation,

454
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm hard pressed to see. Okay, so the Cowboys, you know,

455
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: they give up the sixth rounder for Jonathan Hankins, and

456
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: you make a great point there's a such thing as

457
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Speaker 1: overvaluing picks. But then at the same time, there's a

458
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: such thing for as far as having the thought process

459
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: to think, Okay, if we've done this, who might have

460
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: we given up? Did we give up? Did we just

461
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: give up a mukuambo? Did we just give up with

462
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Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson? And it's like, okay, we had to do

463
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 1: it so that we can shore this up right now

464
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: because our window is starting to shrink. But now you're saying, well,

465
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Speaker 1: in having that thought process, how comfortable would they be

466
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: in doing it again at any position? But this position.

467
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Speaker 1: We're talking about this wide receiver because you're gonna have

468
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Speaker 1: to We're not talking about any big name guy that's

469
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: going to be a first, second, third round about you're

470
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Speaker 1: giving up. It's going to be a late round pick

471
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Speaker 1: that typically would be designated the flyer. But again, if

472
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Speaker 1: they're thinking of it from the aspect of we might

473
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Speaker 1: have just given away of Donovan Wilson, That's fine, we'll

474
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Speaker 1: eat that for now. Yeah, but for a team that

475
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Speaker 1: drafts and develops as well as they do, they're not

476
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Speaker 1: looking at those late round picks as flyers, so they

477
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Speaker 1: might tighten the purse strain after the hankingtack. Well, here's

478
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: here's just a thought. Yeah what about compis Yeah, yeah,

479
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: they have lost the trade players and the trade a

480
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: couple of years, right, So could you say to yourself,

481
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: we'll give up now. I saw it was the seventh

482
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Speaker 1: round pick. It hadn't been official yet. Ye seventh round

483
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Speaker 1: high comp for Cooper? Okay, so rush, So, no one,

484
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: what do you want to say something? Do you mind me?

485
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take you Clays. I'm not gonna tell

486
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Speaker 1: you Clars Hill, what's gonna say. You know you didn't

487
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: made that man man about nor Brown didn't see Okay, No,

488
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Speaker 1: when you come up in our conversation, that's yeah, no

489
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Speaker 1: Brown season, no Brown, That's what I'm saying. No Brown

490
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Speaker 1: might And I said, he's laughing because last week on

491
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Speaker 1: media Mash, I said no one might take the Cedric

492
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Speaker 1: arc and and end up in the process getting you

493
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Speaker 1: a good COMPI called Clarence almost fell off the chairs. Actually,

494
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm laughing because it came up this morning. So yeah, Son,

495
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: and he also, if he was here, he would also add,

496
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: we kid because we care. He's not doing it in

497
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: a in a hateful way that he would. He always said,

498
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, after all it does. Yeah, after all he

499
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: did go to the anti bullion. That's right, that's right,

500
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: that's right. But it's interestally to your to your point

501
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: about the whole do they look at it through the lens.

502
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: We gave up a Donovan Wilson, we gave up a mcquamo.

503
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: At some point this team has to go for it.

504
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: And now it appears that they're actually going for it.

505
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: Because if we keep this whole game of we're gonna

506
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Speaker 1: keep playing into the future, training and thinking about the future,

507
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: at some point you got to go forward and try

508
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: to win a championship or at least get yourself close

509
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Speaker 1: enough in a position to try and do so. And

510
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Speaker 1: it feels like this is a move at least with

511
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Speaker 1: addressing a line, you know, the defensive line, you're doing that,

512
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Speaker 1: and if you do with wide receiver, that's just another

513
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: indication to me that you're finally actually going for something

514
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: said thinking about and playing for the future, you know,

515
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: over and over again. And if and if you just

516
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: look at forget the AFC, if you just look at

517
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: the NFC, if you're not going for it right now,

518
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: when are you going for it? Yeah? Which is why

519
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: I believe if you just simply sit in the bloom

520
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: and say, guys, if something happens to Lamb, where are

521
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: we that that's if we don't believe it, Okay, I mean, no,

522
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: hope is a strategy. There's some higher there's some higher

523
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: guns out there, just you know, floating around, traveling around,

524
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Speaker 1: you know, just seeing what the landscape of the NFL

525
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: looks like there's always the case. Yeah, there's always the case.

526
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: There's some venoms out there that you could some some

527
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: mercenaries so to speak, that you can bring in in

528
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Speaker 1: that situation with enough time to bring someone in that

529
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: they can be very acclimated by the time you're making

530
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Speaker 1: your disimper run. So to me, I would do it

531
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Speaker 1: if I'm the Cowboys, and yes, you can have your

532
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: maybe James Washington come all, that could be grafy. But

533
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: I think about the insurance. You're in the insurance industry.

534
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: Orn't you currently am insurance? Yeah, I like insurance. Insurance.

535
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: Insurance is a good thing. So you're looking for a

536
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: guy though that would only be for this year you were.

537
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: You're not looking for like an A Mari situation where

538
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: then now you got to pay the guy too. You're

539
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: just looking for the rest of this season, short, short term,

540
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: right that. And then if i'm you know, if you're

541
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: Gerald Lane Jones, you're supposed to say, hey, look, you

542
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna take a little bit of cost off

543
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: your hands, which You're going to have some teams great

544
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: saves us in such dollar spine and they'll just take

545
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: But That's the thing why I can give you a

546
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: low draft pick because I'm being ready to take on

547
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: some salary here, right, and you bring in a player exit,

548
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: you are just bringing in insurance. And after what I've

549
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: seen this year with the team quote a back your

550
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: life tackle, I mean, yes, you've been able to weather

551
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: some storms. Yeah, let's get some insurance because we've seen

552
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: some things. You know, what's the old like a good neighbor,

553
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: state farmer sayer or the rock I mean most progressive.

554
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever you got to do. You know, I

555
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: would just simply say what you don't want to do

556
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: is to have this great run you're on and think

557
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, we tried to save some dollars, right, Yeah

558
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: this Um McCarthy loves to talk about his Packers team

559
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: that won the Super Bowl at Jerry World. I remember it.

560
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: In that game, Um Donald Driver went out hurt. M

561
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: Woodson went out hurt. And I remember, and I can't

562
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: remember the It wasn't Jordan Nelson, but it was another

563
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: white guy who came in at the receiver spot who

564
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: Rogers was targeting and was making some plays on. But

565
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: they meeted every day. They had Ryan Grant that year

566
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: who was playing very well. You never you always su

567
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: always remember your great fantasy football teams that don't y

568
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: Ryan Grant was your guy, little pick like again. But

569
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: but they kept going. I mean he went through a

570
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: lot of guys, but even in that game he was

571
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: losing guys and Rogers kept on. You know, guys came

572
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: and did there. So that's my thing there. It's just, man,

573
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: I hate to see this team and you know it's

574
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: in an NFC that, yes it is. It is a

575
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: winnable NFC. And you think to yourself, man, we tried

576
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: to hold on to a five or a four and

577
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: we could have got player X over here. Yeah. I

578
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: think that's what the best teams do, who understand where

579
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: they are at the moment. And we talked about, you

580
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: know what the Rams did last year, the acquisitions that

581
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: they made that helped them get over the top. They

582
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: acquire Oldell Beckham Jr. A man's on his way to

583
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP before he gets hurt. Like these are

584
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: what the best teams in the league do to find

585
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: a way to get themselves in that position. And the

586
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys are right there right now based on what they

587
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: were able to do, whether the Stormer Cooper Rush. Now

588
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: you got a chance to go for it, So figure

589
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: out the best way to still stay within your plan

590
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: of draft and developed, but at the same time find

591
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: a way to go for it, because, as John said,

592
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: if you don't go for it now, when will you

593
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: go for it? Based on what the lands gatting right now,

594
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: there's another way to look at it, even if you're

595
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: looking at it from the same view of that I

596
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: put out there. You know, what if we just gave

597
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: away mcquom. Okay, well contrary, what if you just gave

598
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: it away John Ridgeway, Yeah, exactly right. So I mean

599
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: that's you know, some motivation to say, okay, go ahead,

600
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Speaker 1: do it send the fifth because I mean, if it's

601
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: accomplistratable anyway, you know, there you go. Patrick's to be

602
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: a baseball fan. Last year the Braves middle of the year.

603
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh, let's let's go. You were not thinking

604
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: would be lifting up any type of school and you know, boom,

605
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: here they are middle of the here. Go get you

606
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: a whorehy Solaire. All I saw was people complaining. You know,

607
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: nobody could plain like Philly fans. All I saw is

608
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: people trying to hang Joe Girardi with the Phillies. You

609
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: couldn't have told me this team it was gonna fire

610
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: this fan and they would end up in the World Series.

611
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: So in sports sometimes you just don't know. I didn't

612
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: think the Rams are going to make the Super Bowl

613
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: last year. They go get von Miller, then they go

614
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: get don't help that continnity get and so if you're

615
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: the cowboy front office and you're what you're saying, they

616
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: need to go get out out backham I said on

617
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: the last dude, you do not go get how many

618
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: dudes coming off a cls do we need to see

619
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Speaker 1: it around here? Um, that was hope. It's not gonna

620
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: be my strategy on that. We've got one, get one,

621
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Speaker 1: let's see where it goes. Back I might put some

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00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: hope into that one. No, you're making a good point.

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Speaker 1: You're going if you're close, or if you need to

624
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: turn around, or whatever the case may be, maybe you

625
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: go and get a Jorge Solo or or you know

626
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: Eddie Rosario or you know, all right, he really put

627
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: it out He put it out there. So you're not listening.

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00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry the Rangers aren't. But um, you know,

629
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Speaker 1: bly Yankee fans not even know what. I wouldn't say that,

630
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: especially to the tiger. Yeah yeah, so who's the von Miller?

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Speaker 1: Who do they need to go? Get so close? Miller said,

632
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: please come get me, but don't don't don't do that nearly.

633
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: That's not that's not even been. Bitter and bitter music.

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00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: My second break come back with the media bass on

635
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Das Cowboys dot Com. The season is finally here. For months,

636
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: we've been gearing up to win. Now it's time for

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Speaker 1: Back to media. Mash Fry last segment, what are you

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Speaker 1: doing over there? He's doing all Russell can't say it anymore,

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Speaker 1: but I can't. Okay, she shut that down on one

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Speaker 1: do that. They're less right, so reported said Bradley. Chubb

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Speaker 1: may get traded. I mean so, um, it's going to

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Speaker 1: it's trade season, so you're you just read your social media.

678
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Speaker 1: There's things that are out there, and there's teams right

679
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Speaker 1: now that that are not where they need to be.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. Cowboys make a trade, they

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Speaker 1: get Jonathan Haggins. Do you think that's because we saw

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Speaker 1: what the Bears did last night? I think that obviously.

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Speaker 1: This is a conversation that didn't start the day after

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Speaker 1: the Bears did what they did on Monday night football,

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Speaker 1: I mean that I believe, absolutely, I believe that was

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and pull the trigger. But these, you know,

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Speaker 1: all these things go These are conversations that have been

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Speaker 1: going on for days, maybe even weeks. Cowboys have kind

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Speaker 1: of been putting out a fielder self conversations. Maybe this,

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Speaker 1: maybe that you you put an offer out, the counter offer,

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Speaker 1: it got to the point where the Cowboys were like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: hold please, let's see what happens with the Bears. And

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Speaker 1: the Bears right up over two hundred and forty yards

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Speaker 1: they pick up the phone and say, you know what done?

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. Jerry was talking after the game, after

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Speaker 1: the third breakoff. You know there's the main rag out,

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Speaker 1: the final one, after the third one, he said that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's like he was will aware. Everybody, everybody

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Speaker 1: in the lake knew that Christian McCaffrey basically was being

703
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Speaker 1: shopped around. They didn't have any interest in, but you

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Speaker 1: knew that. Obviously, teams were making calls and things that

705
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Speaker 1: did you want Gratian McCaffrey. You made a face there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I was wondering if you were interested?

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Speaker 1: There no that for that compensation, you interested, no, but

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Speaker 1: it's amazing that those two teams are gonna have no picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: between the NFC, you know, the NFC West, I mean

710
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Speaker 1: between the Rams and the forty nine ers. Why are

711
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Speaker 1: you scouting? Yeah, I mean that speak, that's exactly um,

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Speaker 1: you know, watching Jimmy g I don't know if it matters.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the part everybody forgot about that he

714
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Speaker 1: still plays quarterback. But I think board if this team

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Speaker 1: didn't have Ezekiel Elliott or Tony Pollard and that was

716
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Speaker 1: the why you know, we talked about wide receiver for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but if it was running back they were

718
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Speaker 1: missing for where this team is right now. I don't

719
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Speaker 1: think he would have hated that that much. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. I don't think they would have necessarily given

721
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Speaker 1: up that much draft capital, especially all in one draft

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Speaker 1: to get him. But I don't think you would have

723
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Speaker 1: hated that that that isn't move that. Hey, we're going

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Speaker 1: for it. My problem with McCaffrey didn't play. He's just

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Speaker 1: missing that yeah, because of availability, right, So, I mean

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Speaker 1: you just don't know how many games you're getting out

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Speaker 1: of this stuff. So for that, for that money, I mean,

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Speaker 1: from all the complaining people have is about Zekie Elliot,

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Speaker 1: the guys they are on Sunday right, you know, And

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Speaker 1: and that's that's been a part in while people aren't

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Speaker 1: giving Matt rule to pass, part of the problem is

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Speaker 1: this guy took a job and run CMCs. No longer

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Speaker 1: run CMC. He's just not there. When he's there, he

734
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Speaker 1: can help, but he just hasn't been there enough. I

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Speaker 1: wonder how you take a nasty shot to the knee

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Speaker 1: like Zeke did and then after that you scored two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns leap over Strange thing because I was me and

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Speaker 1: a few other reporters were talking to Zeke at his

739
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Speaker 1: locker last week, and he was just talking about it,

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Speaker 1: like the workout regimen and how it's different from college

741
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Speaker 1: because you have this longer season you're trying to, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not as much to the heavy lifting

743
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Speaker 1: is it's more of you know, I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: keep myself in good shape going forward. And we were

745
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: just other reporters making jokes about how, you know, we

746
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Speaker 1: don't work out, we're eating like crap and stuff like that,

747
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Speaker 1: and he said that even with him, he's got he's

748
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: gotta be careful about stuff like when he eats certain things,

749
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Speaker 1: you know he'll be feeling the next day. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: look like it. But I don't know. There's just some

751
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Speaker 1: there's some people. I always felt this way about Dez

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Speaker 1: Bryant that as Brian his prime, he could have three meals,

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Speaker 1: and he would have been fine. You know. I understand

755
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Speaker 1: that metabolism will catch up with you sometime, but there's

756
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Speaker 1: just some some human beings that are almost like superhuman,

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758
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Speaker 1: with some things like that. So I'll ask you, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's because somebody I can't remember who's on the phone

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Speaker 1: meet today? He said, is Ezekiel Elliott going to be

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys next year? Like you think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay where they gonna reduce, start to cut him? And

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Speaker 1: I just said, I said, first of apology a free agent,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to pay Tony Pollard. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tony park Camp. I said, so you're not giving him

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Speaker 1: with limited ability. He's good, but he's gonna be limited

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Speaker 1: in the past game so I don't know if anybody's

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Speaker 1: gonna make him one. I said, but if you get

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Speaker 1: rid of Ezekiel Elliott and you lose Tony Pollard, what

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Speaker 1: do you have? I said, I very high your pick, right,

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Speaker 1: I said, I could see Ezekiel Elliott coming back. Do

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Speaker 1: they change the contracts somewhat? Maybe? I said, but I

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Speaker 1: can see Zeke back. Jerry likes. That was just my take,

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Speaker 1: So I have to bring it here, just just bring

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Speaker 1: it to the table. I definitely don't think both will

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Speaker 1: be back, so they're gonna have to do some make

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Speaker 1: some type of decision there, and it'll probably come down

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Speaker 1: to whatever they think is easier to replaced. And then obviously,

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Speaker 1: like you said about, you know, probably asking for a

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Speaker 1: pay cut or something on Zeke's end, and I could

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Speaker 1: see him saying, yeah, I'm all set and not doing that.

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Speaker 1: So there's just a lot of things that have to

784
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Speaker 1: come into play here, you know, And the way we

785
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Speaker 1: feel about it and talk about right now could be

786
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Speaker 1: way different a month from now. So back one of

787
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Speaker 1: them to be gone, and I expect the Cowboys to

788
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: use a mid round pick. They're not I'm not saying

789
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Speaker 1: first or second round, but I expect them to use

790
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Speaker 1: like a midround pick on a running back next year,

791
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Speaker 1: or because I think Polo is the one that's gonna

792
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Speaker 1: be gone. Because if you go down that strategy, you

793
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Speaker 1: keep Zeke round for another year or two. If you

794
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: believe in the draft and develop strategy, you'll go use

795
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Speaker 1: a second third round pick on a running back, develop

796
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Speaker 1: the guy behind him. Next you know, he takes over

797
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Speaker 1: for Zeke, you know, two three years from now. But

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Speaker 1: you still gotta think about Ceedee Lamb's contract extension. Treyvon

799
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Speaker 1: did is gonna be up for an extension. Those guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna be getting paid too, So financially, now you

801
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Speaker 1: got someting to mark who you're gonna pay and who

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00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep versus your salary cap going into the

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Speaker 1: next couple of years, because in that year after that,

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Speaker 1: Mike's gonna be up for a contract. At some point,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be making Michael Parson's the highest paid defensive

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00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: player in the game. That's gonna cost you a lot

807
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: of money, exactly. My personal opinion is, and it is

808
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Speaker 1: a complex conversation because the tandem has such a great chemistry,

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Speaker 1: and not just on the field, but Tony poll and

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Speaker 1: Zeki Elliott are genuinely they genuinely have like a brotherhood

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Speaker 1: kind of thing going on. Um So I think in

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Speaker 1: that aspect, and I never want to speak on another

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Speaker 1: man's pocket and never want to put my hand in there.

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Speaker 1: But I will say it this way, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: shocked if to keep Tony Pollard, Ezekiel Elliott was willing

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Speaker 1: to take a little bit less to spread the money

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Speaker 1: over to Tony. But then here's the question, and this

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Speaker 1: well as far as on his inner circle. The conversations

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821
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Speaker 1: want to be a number one back somewhere? Right? Because

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Speaker 1: if he wants to be a number one back somewhere,

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Speaker 1: E see, that's a different type of conversation because arguably

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Speaker 1: he is capable of doing that somewhere else, you know

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Speaker 1: the case maybe or a number one back. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a level conversation. But you know, gun

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Speaker 1: to my head, I believe Zeke is going to be back.

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Speaker 1: And then the Cowboys would lean on someone they want

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Speaker 1: to lean on Rico Dowdle, but he's not been able

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Speaker 1: to remain healthy the past couple of seasons. But Mollie

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Speaker 1: Davis is already flashing as a rookie. You know, you

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Speaker 1: got Allison on practice squad that they're developing. So you

833
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: have those guys and then you add another draft pick

834
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Speaker 1: too that to kind of, you know, allow you to

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Speaker 1: flish things out behind and with ze Ezekiel Ilid over

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Speaker 1: the next couple of years. But however you spend it out,

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Speaker 1: I do think that Pollard gun to my head would

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Speaker 1: be the one out in this scenario, unless I may

839
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Speaker 1: just add into this when I say, right now, things

840
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Speaker 1: can change. They're five and two right now. This team

841
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Speaker 1: could win twelve thirteen games get knocked out in the

842
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Speaker 1: first round. Because I maintain Almark Cooper is still here.

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Speaker 1: If that team last year when the NFC Championship game,

844
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Speaker 1: it's easier to move on and change things around when

845
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Speaker 1: you've been very you have a very disappointing finish to

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Speaker 1: this season. So the way we feel right now and

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Speaker 1: then the way after it all unfolds, tell me what

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Speaker 1: a better, you know, a better example of what I

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Speaker 1: think last Fluid. Yeah, it's fluid. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I'll say to you when I held back because what

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Speaker 1: I said to my friend, Jerry has his favorites and

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Speaker 1: for sure, yeah, and I said, I thought, yeah exactly,

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Speaker 1: I thought taken, I said, deal with it. I said,

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Speaker 1: take that's God. Is a quote from Jerry Jones certainly too.

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Speaker 1: We were all there. Let me let me check. We

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Speaker 1: were all there. I'm must time we left. We got

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Speaker 1: about thirty seconds. But we know that that. I thought,

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Speaker 1: I thought Tanks days may have been gone last year,

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Speaker 1: but we saw they brought him back. He's a Jerry favorite.

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Speaker 1: Jerry stepped in the final hour back. People have to

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Speaker 1: remember that thing about Ezeki. No matter how you feel

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Speaker 1: about him, the man who writes the checks has an

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Speaker 1: affinity for the player, and for those of us who

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Speaker 1: covered this team on a on a consistent basis, understand this.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to his game that the average football

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Speaker 1: fan does not take into account, in fact that he

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Speaker 1: blocks that he is there to do all the work

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. He's a very positive person the locker

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Speaker 1: room team player, for sure. That kind of stuff, as

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Speaker 1: matured in a major way, matters, and coaches like guys

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Speaker 1: that they can depend on and a roster of fifty

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Speaker 1: three dudes, you're gonna have a couple of dudes you

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Speaker 1: can't depend on. Knowing that you've got my lead running back,

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Speaker 1: I can count on that guy. Yep, that matters. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see how it all. You're right, John, it's fluid.

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Speaker 1: But when I had the conversation, that's till the guy.

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Speaker 1: I would expect to see twenty one back here. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what money, but I expect to see twenty

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Speaker 1: one back. And until they can replace twenty one, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Jerry would make a move he had someone

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Speaker 1: in the house he does. I was like Romo, he

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Speaker 1: would just go replace Romo. He saw, oh I have

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Speaker 1: a replacement. That was how it went there. Jerry still

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Speaker 1: kind of has to that point the last player or

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Speaker 1: the most recent player that he had such a strong

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Speaker 1: affinity for, like he does for Zeke and some of

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Speaker 1: the handful that we mentioned, and the Knights of the

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Speaker 1: round table kind of voted to move on Das Bryant.

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Speaker 1: You all the consequence of moving on from there because

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Speaker 1: that wide receiver by committee it didn't work, and then

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Speaker 1: almost offering Sammy Watkins sixteen million year old and the

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Speaker 1: butterfly effect was had to give up a first for

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Speaker 1: Mary Cooper and then years later from Mary Cooper because

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this isn't the guy. So I say

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Speaker 1: all that to say, if you're Jerry Jones, that should

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Speaker 1: emboding you that much more. Most likely to say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, last time I moved on from a guy

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Speaker 1: that I really really liked, I had to pay some

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Speaker 1: penalties for that. Maybe he doesn't make that that mistake

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Speaker 1: again with his ecre. Just for Devil's Advocate over here,

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Speaker 1: Jerry did love Randy Gregory still loved. That's one way

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Speaker 1: to a level. It couldn't. He can get to a

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Speaker 1: level where and it's gotta be it's gotta be a

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Speaker 1: high level, but it can get to a level where

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Speaker 1: he's like, you know, and well, there's both there's that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit deeper. But Jerry to this, I mean

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Speaker 1: Jerry's because I don't want to say Jerry love Randy.

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Speaker 1: Jerry still loves Randy Gregory still ran Greger's agent. We're

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Speaker 1: not I think the heartbreak that equation, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Jerry came out on the good end of that end,

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Speaker 1: so thank goodness. Uh. He shouts out to Sam Williams

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Speaker 1: during So Crazy they were coming with nuts and twelve

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Speaker 1: snaps on Sunday. All right, Kevin Gray, I'm good to

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Speaker 1: see you too. All right. You know we're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: to little shirts for everybody else too. You know, tell

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Speaker 1: tell Gavin Spiddle, you know, empty the vote and what's up.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk off on Chuck dallascoutboys dot com read John

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Speaker 1: ma showed in the Athletic I news storys that's a

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Speaker 1: media match. You appreciate you watching. It's right here on

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