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Speaker 3: We missed your Monday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I miss you guys too.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who Wally Pip is?

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Speaker 3: Wally Pip was the first baseman from the New York Yankees,

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Speaker 3: Baseball history. So Wally Pip missed one game and then

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Speaker 3: You know I'm saying there's a reason I'm telling you this.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in episode twenty four of What's Right We Think Right,

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Speaker 3: the podcasting and YouTube show like rate subscriber review and

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Speaker 3: remember check us out every Sunday. As on Sundays, our

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Speaker 3: countdown of the fifty greatest players of the last fifty

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Speaker 3: we can got into the show, that we Finally, for

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Speaker 3: the first time in a while, have the full cast

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Speaker 3: here because Demons, good to see you, my son, after

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Speaker 3: being out sick on for Tuesday's show, which we record

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Speaker 3: on Monday, Demanse's here and I assumed the full production

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Speaker 3: staff was here. However, a little behind the scenes in folks,

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Speaker 3: right as we're starting the show, I see none other

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Speaker 3: than our fearless leader, the showrunner of this project, one

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Speaker 3: Gabe Goodwin. How locked into episode twenty four of the

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Speaker 3: What's Right We Think Great? Podcast is Gabe Well, he's

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Speaker 3: arguing with Mike Florio on Twitter, So listen. If you'd

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Speaker 3: WP that's gonna be Gabe's only mentioned on today's show.

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Speaker 3: Things we're not talking about at all on today's show

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Speaker 3: joining Twitter. Gabe, you can tweet with Jeets Will I

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Speaker 3: not on today's show. We will get into what has

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Speaker 3: been the best sporting event of the oh gabes here.

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Speaker 3: Oh look at him. Good to see you, Gabe. When

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Speaker 4: Oh man? How could we not start with my Celtics?

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Speaker 3: And you guys are good. I'm glad the clock's starting.

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Speaker 3: this can just be between you and me here, Pal,

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Speaker 3: I'm not making any more bets with you. The first one.

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Speaker 3: Enough time was spent on this show, on any show

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Speaker 3: The Celtics combined have zero finals games experience. The Warriors

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Speaker 3: I think the Warriors are fresher. I think they're healthier.

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Speaker 3: Your guy, Robert Williams. And you know what, let me

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Speaker 4: Okay? Well, you said last show that the voters o

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Yeah, Draymond agrees with you and actually went on

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Speaker 5: So do you think that Steph is responsible for the

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot here. I did say the voters

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Speaker 4: This would be.

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Speaker 3: These matt and these tennis matches are like five and

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Speaker 4: Like tennis more than golf. I think you do, because

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Speaker 3: appreciate that. All right, that first segment, not only do

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 3: Do you have no idea how many people want you

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Speaker 3: about these NBA finals, these these clowns up in the

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Speaker 4: I gotcha, Yes, with time for two wrongs one right?

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Speaker 3: of critics. It's just mostly me. I don't think Lamar.

429
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Speaker 3: I think for Dak or Russ people are I'm sorry

430
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: for Dak or Lamar people are mostly entrenched. And I

431
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Speaker 3: think the only way for either of those guys to

432
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: truly silence their critics is to make the Super Bowl.

433
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Speaker 3: So my answer is Lamar, because I think the Ravens

434
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 3: are gonna be awesome. I obviously, you know, hope and

435
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 3: might end up picking the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl.

436
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. But the Ravens. Again, I'm the only

437
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: person that seems to remember this. The Ravens were eight

438
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 3: and three last year, the number one seed in the

439
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: AFC through eleven games, despite all the injuries before Lamar

440
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: went down. So I and Lamar then got hurt, their

441
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: entire secondary got hurt. They lost three out of four games,

442
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: and like the final minute, the Ravens are gonna be

443
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: really good. The Cowboys are gonna be the same Cowboys,

444
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 3: which is they're gonna win that crappy division and not

445
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 3: be a real Super Bowl threat. And Russ I just

446
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: don't think has critics other than me. I think everyone's like,

447
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: oh my god.

448
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 4: Yes, I think people expect them to be pretty good.

449
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: Of course they expect them to be good. But that's

450
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 3: different to the question is silence their critics. I don't

451
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: think he has a lot of critics. I mean, there's

452
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 3: it's me in future, that's it. Everyone else loves Russell.

453
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Speaker 5: Mom to but oh actually no, I don't think mom's

454
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 5: a no no.

455
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Speaker 3: Everybody loves Russell Wilson. And with respect to your mother,

456
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: even if she was a critic, I don't know if

457
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Speaker 3: her you know, her debut performance on the podcast. Notwithstanding,

458
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if her media profile rises to the

459
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: level of Russell Wilson's. Can always the Super Bowl trope

460
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: and be like, hey, take that fashion, I really proved

461
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 3: you're wrong. All right, what's next?

462
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,239
Speaker 4: Oh? Charles Barkley says the Clippers were picked to win

463
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 4: next year's title.

464
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, And Aaron Donald says that he's going to retire,

465
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 5: not that he's going to that year. He okay, he

466
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: says that he might retire, Yeah, which the more like

467
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 5: they won a championship next.

468
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Speaker 4: Year, The Lakers, the Clippers or the Rams, all.

469
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Speaker 3: Right, the easiest one to eliminate, as much as it

470
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: hurts my heart as the Lakers, I mean, I like

471
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: the Darvin ham Hire, but they have to totally remake

472
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: their roster. Doesn't look like they're going to. They keep

473
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: claiming they might want to keep Ross, so I don't

474
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,479
Speaker 3: look at the Lakers.

475
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 4: I think they're going to trade him for Kyrie.

476
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: That would be amazing, but I don't think the Nets

477
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: are going to do that.

478
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: I think they are and the Lakers will throw in

479
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: those picks that they're refusing to throw in.

480
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: Oh well, for Kyrie. Obviously they would, but there are

481
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 3: some weird Lakers reports going on. There is somebody from

482
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: bleacher Report yesterday tweeted that the Lakers were, you know,

483
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: trying to acquire Donovan Mitchell. Oh, yes, would include the

484
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty six draft pick with respect. What the

485
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: fuck are you talking about? If you're trying to acquire

486
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell, who's a flawed but very good player, It's like, listen,

487
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: we'll give you Ross, and we'll give you a tail

488
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: and Horton Tucker, but we're not giving up our pick

489
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: the Jazz unless the Jazz like we're doing like some

490
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: trading places situation where they were like trying to bankrupt

491
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Speaker 3: the franchise, the idea that they would. There's nothing the

492
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 3: Lakers could offer that doesn't involve the name Lebron James

493
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 3: or Anthony Davis to where the Lakers could offer as

494
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: many picks as possible, not trading Donovan Mitchell, and so

495
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: the Lakers just eliminate them. The Clippers could be excellent,

496
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: but at this point it's fair to say, is Kawhi

497
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: Leonard as big of an injury risk as there is

498
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: in the NBA? I say yes, I say I mean

499
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: the guy missed the entire season, got hurt at the

500
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: end of the season before was hurt throughout who seasons

501
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: prior to that like, So the Clippers to me, on paper,

502
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: I love tylu I like what they've done with their roster.

503
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: They made a conference final first time in franchise history.

504
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: They did it without Kauhi at the end of the

505
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: series without Kauai but too much of an injury. So

506
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: my answers the Rams, Aaron Donalds not retiring, Aaron Donalds

507
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: getting a pay raise. He's gonna play at least one

508
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: or two more years. He's gonna get a big raise.

509
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: The Rams are not my pick to win the Super Bowl,

510
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: but I think the NFC is way down. I think

511
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 3: the Rams will be excellent again and Aaron Donald's not

512
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: going anywhere. All right, what's next?

513
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Speaker 5: Okay, who will be the finals biggest X factor? Yep,

514
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 5: Marcus Smart, Jordan Poole or Kevon Looney.

515
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: All right, my answer is Jordan Poole, but not in

516
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Speaker 3: the direction I think people usually think of X factor.

517
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 4: I about his.

518
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: Defense, well kind of. So here's I'm gonna change the

519
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: question to who will be to who could be If

520
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: the Warriors lose. It's going to be because Jordan Poole

521
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 3: is a massive negative. And it's not just on But

522
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: there's two ways Jordan Poole could be the massive negative.

523
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 3: One is he is objectively a terrible defender and.

524
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: His relationship with Clay and like the offense and one

525
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 5: and too much.

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00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 3: Listen, if I were Steve Kerr, I go to Jordan,

527
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: and I'd say, Jordan, I need your cell phone, Coach,

528
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: why Like, Jordan, I need your cell phone. And I

529
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: was gonna do one thing. I'm gonna go to your

530
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: to your messages and now you can search messages like

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Speaker 3: you're searching for a message. I'm just gonna type in

532
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: one thing. What are you gonna type in, Coach, I'm

533
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: gonna type in finals MVP, and I'm gonna see if

534
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: you've texted anyone, your mom, your best friend, look out

535
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 3: for me. I'm gonna win this finals MVB. That would

536
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: be the worst thing that could happen to the Warriors

537
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: if Jordan Poole's like, this is my time, Oh look

538
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: at look for me now. So that would concern me.

539
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: If I were Golden State. I think Golden State. I

540
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: don't love the Jordan Pool Klay Thompson dynamic. I don't.

541
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: But I think they can overcome that, and I think

542
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: they can hide them on defense. But if Jordan Poole

543
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: every time he comes in the game is like it's

544
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: Jordan Poole time, that would worry me for them. So

545
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: he's a potential X factor. All right, what's next?

546
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 4: Okay?

547
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 5: That was fair most important Finals stat Boston with zero games,

548
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: the finals experience, Golden State with one hundred and twenty

549
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 5: three games, the Finals experience, or Golden State with one

550
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 5: week arrest.

551
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 3: So I talked about the finals experience earlier. I do

552
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: think that will matter, but I think the one week

553
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: arrest is huge in my mind. I think Golden State's

554
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: up one up. I would if you guys are gonna

555
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: win the series, demise, I would. I I'll never change

556
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: a pick mid series. If you guys win the first game,

557
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: all feel terrible about my pick because I'm baking into it.

558
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: Here's what I'm baking into it.

559
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 5: If you're the Tanza being, they're going they're coming out

560
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: the one week arrest, and they're at home.

561
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: And exactly, and the Celtics are coming off back to

562
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: back seven game series. So I look at it like this,

563
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I believe Golden State's gonna win game one.

564
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: I also think they've lost to game seven in their

565
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: building to lose the title once before. I don't think

566
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: they are gonna do that again. So I feel like

567
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: they've won game one. If it gets to seven, they're

568
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: gonna win. So that would mean Boston would have to

569
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: win four out of five games two through six. Now,

570
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: maybe they could do it, and Boston has won a

571
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: road game seven in these playoffs, but it was against

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00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: Miami and a beating up Miami team. My answer is

573
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: the one week arrest. I think the one week arrest

574
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: and how much less demanding the last two Warrior series

575
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: were compared to the last two Celtics series. All right,

576
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: what's last?

577
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: Okay? Who deserves to redo their mistakes? Yeah? Nick Saban

578
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 4: for his comments about Texas A.

579
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 5: And m Max Strews for his alleged step out of.

580
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: Bounds h huh? Or you for your really bad takes

581
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: on the two finals teams.

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00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: What do you mean by really bad takes on the

583
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: finals teams?

584
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

585
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: Your Wiggans takes was really bad and we all know

586
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 5: about that. I dug a little bit deeper regardless of

587
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: the Celtics and the Warriors oppo research.

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00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: Okay, and we've got a few tweets to show.

589
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see before I get the answer. Let's see.

590
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: It's not a knock on Jason Tatum to acknowledge the

591
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: simple fact that he's not yet ready to be the

592
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 5: best player on a finalist.

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00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: All of NBA history agrees with.

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Speaker 3: Hold on a second, when was this tweet set? This

595
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: one was July in twenty Yeah, well he wasn't. He

596
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: wasn't ready yet. Put that tweetback on the screen. Something

597
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: that has an age.

598
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: Well you just just.

599
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: Like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait

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Speaker 3: players twenty three and under since nineteen eighty best player

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00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: on a final seat it was Durant, Lebron, Duncan, Shack

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Speaker 3: and Dream. No I'm talking about for you all right, Well,

603
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about this one. First. I was correct

604
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: about Jason Tatum. This is from two years years ago.

605
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: He was not yet ready. But go ahead, there's five no, no,

606
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 3: not five tweets. But you're saying two years. It's not

607
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: like five years ago. It's on even like two seasons.

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00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 3: I don't think as long as it was not this season,

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00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't Okay, let me see the next one.

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00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is about Curry. Yeah, let's get the

611
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: graphic up there.

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00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 5: Some of y'all knew here just now discovering the last season,

613
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 5: I was in awe of Steph Curry. He had me

614
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 5: in most of and mostly everyone fooled.

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00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: Okay that first of all, there's this is totally lacking context.

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00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: Second of all, this from six years ago, six years ago.

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00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: But she said that he had people fooled, as if

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00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: like he wasn't his true self and he wasn't good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that was six years tweet back

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00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: on the screen as well. Actually, I want to see

621
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: something about that if we can. This is from New

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00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: Year's Eve. I'm probably half in the bag. Hey, I

623
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: wasn't even on TV yet, I don't think. And it's

624
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: misleading of you guys to use my current avatar with

625
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: these tweets. Well you should have to use the avatar

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00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: from the time.

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00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: That we've got to really this this last one's excellent.

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00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see it.

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Speaker 5: If I'm Katie, I sign on one and one and

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00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 5: one and okay, see if we won the twenty seventeen title,

631
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 5: I stay. If we don't I go join Wiggins in

632
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: cat And Minnesota and former Juggernaut.

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00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: That's that one.

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00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: I don't remember. Yeah, great take by me, great take

635
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: by great take by me.

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00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: Okay, so Wiggins is what warriors like.

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00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on my aunt.

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00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 5: That was in and you also said that on July fourth,

639
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 5: probably half wasted.

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00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: Let me see that one again. Oh boy, that was July.

641
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: That was July of twenty six, July third, the very

642
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: next day he signed with Golden State. I was hosting

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00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: for Colin when that happened. So here's first of all,

644
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: Katie should have listened to this advice. He if this is,

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Speaker 3: I take none of this this answer. Yeah, so hear

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Speaker 3: me out. He chose to go to Golden State. It

647
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: theoretically went as well as it possibly could have for him.

648
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Speaker 3: They won two titles, he won two pounds MVPs. He left,

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Speaker 3: and to this day he's arguing about it. He's still no.

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Speaker 3: He clearly didn't get what he wanted. Okay, if he

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Speaker 3: goes back to OKC and they win the title, he

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Speaker 3: would have by definition beaten Lebron in the finals without

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Speaker 3: this super team because the Calves were there. So we

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Speaker 3: get to that. If they don't he goes to Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Wiggins is showing. While he was terrible as the

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Speaker 3: number one option, if he's your third or fourth option,

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Speaker 3: he can be good. Karl Anthony Towns maybe would be

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Speaker 3: a little more mature if he had kd take, you know,

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Speaker 3: as the leader on that team, and he would have

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Speaker 3: gotten all the credit in the world for those teams

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Speaker 3: winning a title. Yeah, he would have never had Kyrie

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Speaker 3: in his life. You know what great takes. That's a

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Speaker 3: great take by me. I forgot I sent that.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Kadi did a really good job at coming to

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Speaker 5: the nets and leading them to the finals this year. Well, no,

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Speaker 5: tho those young guys, he took him under the wing.

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Speaker 5: Ok No, with the help of Kyrie Irving.

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Speaker 3: Right, Kyrie wouldn't have been involved. Okay, you know what

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Speaker 3: You're not even I don't mean to be rude here,

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Speaker 3: but this is like three dimensional chess that I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about here, and it's clearly going over your head. I

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: had forgotten that tweet. Thank you for bringing it up

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00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 3: to answer your question. The biggest wrong there was Max

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Speaker 3: Strus being out of bounds, but I'm not sure he

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Speaker 3: was out of bounds. The second biggest wrong was me

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Speaker 3: saying I was gonna either go short or hit the clock.

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Speaker 3: Then I went long again. No no, no, we gotta go

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Speaker 3: we gotta what go ahead?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: No, and the whole Max Thrus thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, our people were saying that, oh, if he hits

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Speaker 5: the three, it changes the game.

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Speaker 4: I want to talk about the butterfly effect for a second.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if he hits that three, a bunch of things change,

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Speaker 5: and like the Celtics probably would have done something differently

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Speaker 5: because you know, it's in their minds that you know

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00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 5: they've hit a three, it's at this point in the game,

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Speaker 5: and then they probably played different.

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Speaker 3: Of course that's true, but that's also why they shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be allowed to overturn it six possessions later. That you

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Speaker 3: are correct, it wouldn't. You can't be like, well, the

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Speaker 3: Heat were down two, if you add the three from

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes earlier, they'd have been up one because they

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00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: would have played defense differently down the stretch if they

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00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: didn't have that big of a cushion. All that's true,

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Speaker 3: but it's also why the NBA all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: when I've never seen it happen, because this here's what

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Speaker 3: I believe would have happened. Miami would have called a

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Speaker 3: time out to stop the Boston run that was going

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Speaker 3: on in the third quarter, if Struce's three hadn't counted. Instead,

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Speaker 3: they think they've cut it to seven. All of a sudden,

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00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: it's ten. Boston's a the free throw line. Now it's twelve,

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00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: and it's like almost out of hand. So I agree

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Speaker 3: with you on the butterfly effect, but it cuts both ways.

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Speaker 3: All right, now we really have to take a break.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back, all right, So to Mon's day,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. And by the way, what's right in the

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Speaker 3: great podcast? So I had a I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: tell you who a colleague, not even a podcast colleague,

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Speaker 3: a TV colleague say to me they think I'm mean

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Speaker 3: when I call you. They said, I call you a

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Speaker 3: doofiss that I maybe had called you an idiot once

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00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: on the show, and they said that they think I'm

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Speaker 3: being mean. Can I, first of all, do I hurt

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Speaker 3: your feelings when I do that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean no, Okay, So Lenela, I don't hurt your feelings?

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Speaker 3: Can I? Now? Can we add them not a weekly

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Speaker 3: but a monthly segment? We can maybe create it.

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Speaker 4: Of like of how we've gotten to you calling me

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Speaker 4: an idiot.

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Speaker 3: Demnse the dufist, we could call it. And it can

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Speaker 3: just be story time with Demnse. And here's our debut segment.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about, Uh you remember the jersey you

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Speaker 3: tried to return one? Are you comfortable telling America that story?

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Speaker 4: I was? I was young?

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Speaker 3: How young?

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Speaker 4: I'd like to say that I was like nineteen years old?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I nineteen sounds right, so old enough to sign

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Speaker 3: up to the military, you know what. I mean to

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Speaker 3: do a lot of things, but relative, but he wasn't twelve.

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Speaker 3: It's nineteen years old. Go ahead, go ahead?

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Speaker 5: Uh so I I I feel like I just moved

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Speaker 5: to New York, like like a couple months previous to that. Yeah, fire,

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Speaker 5: and I first started to have like my own money.

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Speaker 5: I was working at this restaurant. Yeah, and I wanted

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Speaker 5: to go to this party and I had like these jerseys,

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Speaker 5: but I wanted a new jersey.

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Speaker 3: Wanted a new jersey. Went to go get in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I went to go get a new jersey from the

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Speaker 5: NBA store in like Times Square or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, got the jersey, went home, tried it on. It

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00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 4: was too big. I didn't like it. I liked my

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00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: jerseys to fit me a certain way.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, I liked sh mediums, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Sh mediums or whatever.

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Speaker 5: And so I go back to the NBA store to

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Speaker 5: return to Jersey to get a new one, and I'm

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Speaker 5: wearing the jersey and I'm like, you know, I want

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Speaker 5: to return to Jersey. I want to get a new one.

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Speaker 5: And they're like, sorry, you know, like we can't, we

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Speaker 5: can't take it back from you. And I was like, no,

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Speaker 5: I have the receipt. It's all good, like I've got

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Speaker 5: it here and I just got it. I just got

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Speaker 5: it earlier today. I'd like to get a new one.

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00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: And they're like, no, sorry, we can't do it. Like

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Speaker 5: you're wearing this, You're literally wearing it, and like to

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Speaker 5: top that, it was ninety degrees outside and I wasn't

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Speaker 5: wearing like my usual sweater with the jersey over it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just wearing the bear.

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Speaker 3: Joe you were you're playing was to either walk out

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Speaker 3: of their shirtless or exchange it. But no point down

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Speaker 3: there where you're like, oh boy, I am sweating profusely

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Speaker 3: in this clothing item I'm trying to return.

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Speaker 4: No in another thing is at that point in my life.

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Speaker 5: I was not at all used to buying my own

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Speaker 5: clothes without like my mom's supervision.

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Speaker 3: Of yeah, urgetting supervision for me, and like I was

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Speaker 3: just like.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's no way that I shouldn't be able

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Speaker 5: to return this jersey. I actually asked if I could

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Speaker 5: speak to the manager, and they were like, you know,

775
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: like we'll go get him, but.

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Speaker 3: But you're wearing the item. But you're literally wearing the item, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm not one of those guys.

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Speaker 5: So they went to get him, and like, once he

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Speaker 5: explained it to me, I was like.

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Speaker 3: I go, you make some some bois, sir. I don't

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Speaker 3: think I have a future in retail. This is why

782
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 3: your mom won't let you fill in at trinage. This

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00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 3: is why Deano will get the call before you. That's

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Speaker 3: today's show.