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Speaker 2: to get to here today. We had the all NBA

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Speaker 2: teams announced last night. We'll dissect those talk snubs, all

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Speaker 2: that good stuff, Lee, you got tweeted the night. So

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited, and I'm gonna predict that we're either

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Speaker 2: hearing from Magic Johnson or wild card Reggie Miller. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I very excited for one of these.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's someone you know. Actually, it is someone you know,

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Speaker 5: and I think you've even played basketball with this person

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Speaker 2: Wow, so it's not one of those two. Really interesting.

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Speaker 2: We'll also look ahead to tonight's Game five's huge late

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Speaker 2: breaking news regarding Kawhi Leonard not playing in Game five tonight,

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Speaker 2: And then we also have Chris Paul news that he

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Speaker 2: little bit later the show, because we are starting tasks

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Speaker 2: with Kevin Durant's historic performance lifting the nets over the

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Speaker 2: Bucks in Game five, one of the greatest playoff game

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Speaker 2: performances I think we've ever seen. I don't think I'm

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Speaker 4: Man, what a game, What a joy to watch this

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Speaker 4: man play basketball. You know, there's those fans that just

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Speaker 4: watch NBA games and say, come on, man, drive, score,

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Speaker 4: do it every possession. They just want the best players

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Speaker 4: to do it on every possession. And it's impossible, right,

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Speaker 4: It's impossible for those players to do it. But Kevin

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Speaker 4: Durant did it for once. Kevin Durant literally was the

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Speaker 4: entire Brooklyn Nets team yesterday. He was taking it upon

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Speaker 4: himself and they desperately needed his special special plays all

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Speaker 4: world play. Because he was playing with James hard And

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Speaker 4: think he touched paint twice. He hit one shot in

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Speaker 4: this game. Joe Harris, one of the best shooters in

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Speaker 4: the world, his third straight bad games, so they desperately

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Speaker 4: needed Kevin Durant to come up and fire every single time,

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Speaker 4: and he couldn't be stopped by the Milwaukee Bucks. They

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Speaker 4: But then he would go back and get the ball

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Speaker 4: one of my best experiences enjoying the game. I never

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Speaker 2: For fifty there. Yeah, that's right, right, I mean, but

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Speaker 2: forty nine seventeen ten, three steels, two blocks, first player

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Speaker 2: ten playoff game. And they were down big too, that's

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Speaker 2: right TK. With Brooklyn out scoring the Bucks seventy one

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Speaker 2: it was looking like it might be over. It looked

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Speaker 2: like it didn't matter what type of Katie game you

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Speaker 2: to have enough. And we can get into the final

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Speaker 2: possessions and plays and minutes and all that, it was

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Speaker 2: there still for Milwaukee to win this game with an

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Speaker 2: incredible Katie line, but that big three where Harden did

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Speaker 2: nothing because he really couldn't. I mean, it's amazing. This

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Speaker 2: just gives it to Katie's like, please save us, just

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Speaker 2: there and yeah, that sort of like sealed the deal.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, what'd you think of this one?

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Speaker 2: You know, he got some help and we'll get to

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Speaker 2: Uncle Jeff and Blake Griffin. But it was test ain't wrong.

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Speaker 2: This was a one man show.

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Speaker 1: He did everything forty eight minutes as well. Just incredible stuff.

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Speaker 1: If you read that New York Times profile by Sam

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Speaker 1: down to Kevin Durant just wants to play perfect basketball,

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Speaker 1: and we pretty much saw that last night, because it

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Speaker 1: That's a nice game, and it would have been. But

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Speaker 1: forty nine and ten plus seventeen rebounds incredible stuff.

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Speaker 3: And unlike it.

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Speaker 1: Game in Game three where Katie had scored nine straight

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Speaker 1: And that was very Clay Thompsony the way he had

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Speaker 1: when he did the pursing of the lips, it was

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Speaker 1: just like, this is special stuff, man, Like you could

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Speaker 1: It's also a fun twist that the Nets were wearing

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Speaker 1: their boskiacht jerseys last night. I love when there's a

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Speaker 1: classic performance in like a random jersey like Lebron's twenty

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Speaker 1: the Bosquiat jerseys. They're gonna live forever, even if they

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Speaker 1: only are around for one year. That was just awesome

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Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, how could you not be going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I struggled to go to sleep after

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Speaker 2: like big playoff games or big performances like that. You're

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Speaker 2: just see? You know, we watched I mean, at this point,

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Speaker 2: thousands of basketball games, and there's these special ones, Leley

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Speaker 3: And I think that is one of them.

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Speaker 2: Especially as the Nets go on to beat the Bucks

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Speaker 2: here and well again we'll get to what Milwaukee did

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Speaker 2: wrong in this? Can they recover?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Can they get this back to seven in Brooklyn to

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Speaker 2: fired and all that, But I just keep going man,

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Speaker 2: this guy also had a torn achilles tendon that we

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Speaker 3: That's it. I mean, some people are two years ago lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, I don't think you know, it

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Speaker 2: another part of this whole thing that is almost forgotten

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Speaker 3: Here he is doing this. It's insane stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, one of my favorite players of all time,

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Speaker 5: Isaiah Thomas, he tore his Achilles ten and basically ruined

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Speaker 5: If you look at Kevin Durant, how he goes out

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Speaker 5: and plays, he's jumping, he's running, he's moving, you would

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Speaker 5: he's easily coming off an Achilles ten and like it

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Speaker 5: was a hamstring injury. I mean, he was just you know,

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Speaker 5: he's got the Chris Paul sort of zigzag move across

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Speaker 5: after the after Chris Middleton into three, and every single

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Speaker 5: was smart, great coaching.

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Speaker 2: Don't think I overthink this at all.

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Speaker 5: Just say, Kevin, round your point, whatever forwards and anything

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Speaker 5: you are tonight, you can do it. And I thought,

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Speaker 5: you know, Landry Shambada in that fourth quarter hit a

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Speaker 5: you get it, don't mess it up. Just go in

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Speaker 5: and score that ball. And Durant was kind of like,

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Speaker 5: you know, you guys, I might need you just be ready,

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Speaker 5: but otherwise I've got this. And I just thought it

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Speaker 5: I didn't think on any possessions, which I think was

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Speaker 5: a mistake, one of the many mistakes I think budenholes

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Speaker 5: to say that Yannis goes out there and he shuts

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Speaker 1: Honestly, this game just needs a name, and this will

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Speaker 4: Or make him work in the post. I mean, there's options.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant played forty eight minutes and he had to,

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Speaker 4: Durant and his Bucks. You know, James Harden was playing

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Speaker 4: I know that they just kept to the to the same.

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Speaker 4: But sometimes that works, you know, when you have the

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Speaker 4: this is not a takeover guy. No, no, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just not that guy.

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Speaker 4: He's and Chris Middleton didn't do it, and and and

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Speaker 4: Drew Holliday was signed to do it. He still hasn't

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Speaker 4: He was playing old man YMC a game. He wasn't

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Speaker 2: He's got to run this shit. A lot of blame

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Speaker 1: You know, he came out there, he didn't really do much,

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Speaker 5: you've got Kevin Durant against you, he can come up

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Speaker 5: and bite you. And that's exactly what happened. So Budenholzer,

433
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 5: I just think, continues to make these silly mistakes, you know.

434
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Speaker 5: And Steve Nash is a great example here. It's like,

435
00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,480
Speaker 5: you know what, Game five, at the start of the

436
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 5: third quarter, Jared greenbergs, is he going to go forty

437
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 5: eight minutes? He's like, that's not a great question, right.

438
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,119
Speaker 5: I wish you didn't ask you that, right, because he

439
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,919
Speaker 5: sort of didn't want to have to answer it. And

440
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 5: Grant Hill was alluding to it on the broadcast as well,

441
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 5: we're going to see forty eight minutes from this guy.

442
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,119
Speaker 5: Because it's not ideal. But in a game, win a

443
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 5: game situation like that, a series on the line, you

444
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 5: have to win. You can't afford to go to Milwaukee

445
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,880
Speaker 5: having to win that game. Every other plan goes out

446
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 5: the window. Put your stars and keep them on the

447
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 5: court as long as you can. And you know the

448
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 5: Steve Nash walks away Victor and Budenhouz has got his

449
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 5: guys fresh for Game six, now they have to stay up.

450
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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought up that pointly, because I

451
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 2: had that in my notes, because again, all the credit

452
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 2: goes to Kevin Durant, who's doing.

453
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Speaker 3: The forty nine to seventeen and ten. But I was

454
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Speaker 3: I wrote this down.

455
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Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder if another coach, cough Bud, say,

456
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Speaker 2: a coach who never played in the league, a coach

457
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 2: who never played in hard flat playoff series, like knows

458
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Speaker 2: like the War of Attrition, how important a pivotal Game

459
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 2: five is and all this, would he have let Durant

460
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 2: some other coach again like Bud play all forty eight minutes.

461
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: So I think you're spot only. I think Nash of

462
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 2: course sens the importance of this game, how he was playing,

463
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 2: how he looked, and just didn't overthink it. He's like,

464
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 2: you know, he's Steve Nash. I'm sure he could look up.

465
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Speaker 2: I'm sure. I don't know if he's played ever forty

466
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Speaker 2: eight minutes of a forty eight minute game, but I

467
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: know he's played over forty eight minutes in playoff in.

468
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 3: Like overtime playoff games. Like he just gets it. He

469
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 3: was like, no, you just go.

470
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Speaker 2: With the greatest player, and you just don't overthink this one, like, yeah,

471
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 2: I did I write that down because I think some

472
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 2: coaches would be afraid to do that. And Budenholzer isn't

473
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Speaker 2: a perfect He's a perfect example of someone that would

474
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Speaker 2: never do that.

475
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Speaker 1: And Adam l skates forty five minutes for Chris Middleton

476
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: last night, forty one for Giannis and you got to

477
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Speaker 1: give a shout out two minutes for Elijah Bryant. Why

478
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 1: a minute for Thanasis? Why you're trying to win the game, right?

479
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys didn't cost you the game. Literally

480
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 1: playing them is pointless. Like where was Bobby Portis. Bobby

481
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 1: Portis couldn't get on the court when Kevin Durant was

482
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: walking into Chris All mid range jumpers time and time

483
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: again against Brook Lopez, We're like, Okay, I don't know now,

484
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going crazy, Like I'm advocating like

485
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 1: Bobby boos on there as if that's gonna really help anything.

486
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Speaker 1: But there's no reason to play the guys who should

487
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: be the twelve and thirteen men on in your rotation

488
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Speaker 1: in the biggest playoff game of the season.

489
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Speaker 4: That's the last It's minute was great though, because it

490
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 4: was at the end of the second quarter. He came

491
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Speaker 4: in as a defensive stopper, and so he played one

492
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Speaker 4: possession and went the offensive end, and then another one

493
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 4: on the defensive end. Then there was a whistle and

494
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 4: he just sprinted off. He knew he was coming up there.

495
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 5: He was like Britain because it was Brent Forbes maybe

496
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Speaker 5: getting a shot at the other end.

497
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Speaker 4: Offensive possession. Yeah, yeah, he's done. He called it. He's

498
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 4: making the call. He's like, I'm done here. I don't

499
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 4: even want to play on offense. He knows Bud's rotations.

500
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Speaker 4: That's ye, that's I get why. You know Jannis wasn't

501
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 4: put on. I think Kevin Durant would have toasted him.

502
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: Jannis isn't a one on one guy on the perimeter. Know,

503
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 4: we saw what Jimmy Butler did to him in round one.

504
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 4: Like he is going to he's gonna get burned by

505
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant. Ken Durant was going to shake him. See

506
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: you later. Yannis has more value as a help defender

507
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 4: in the paint, There's no doubt about that. But I

508
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: think it's it's just more of a mental attitude. It's

509
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: just it's just the disposition, just say, hey, I'm gonna

510
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 4: take him for a couple of possesses that I think

511
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 4: I can't take it over.

512
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: The best player who already won Defensive Player of the

513
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: Year goes I got him. Let me have at least

514
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: have a go at him, at least shill that instead.

515
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: He's saying after the game. And I sort of love

516
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: this from you, honest, because it's such a swerve. He's saying,

517
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: he's the best player in the world right now. Well, yeah,

518
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: but you know you should believe you are.

519
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 4: Why do you love that? Why do you love that?

520
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 4: I think it's funny, I say it, well, I.

521
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: Think it's funny because remember we were joking heading into

522
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: the Heat series where it was like, oh, can the

523
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 2: Bucks beat the heat Man? They could have dodged them

524
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: in the regular season. Instead they got him, and then

525
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, he was like, well, I don't

526
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: know if anything will be different, and we thought that

527
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: was funny because it's usually like, yeah, things are gonna

528
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 2: be guys. Is the macho and all that. So I

529
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 2: remember Tray bringing that up. I think it was and

530
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: this is sort of the equivalent of that. It's just

531
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: the artist qua he's the best.

532
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: I means next season, next season's gonna stick Katie in

533
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: the play.

534
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird, but I think it says something

535
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: to your team, being the best player on your team.

536
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: Saying even if he gets cooked to at least try it.

537
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, he couldn't do any worse than

538
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: anyone else was doing last night. Is the other thing.

539
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: And he's a lot taller than a Middleton or at Tucker.

540
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 5: And at least you go down like saying, well, we

541
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 5: put our best defender on I mean defensive player of

542
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 5: the year. He had a couple of guys at him

543
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 5: even he couldn't stop him, because you know, Durant, he

544
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 5: looks at Middleton, He's like, okay, whatever, I feel like

545
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 5: I'm getting here, mid Ranger three point or whatever. And

546
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 5: again Middleton Trumton's good, he's from But you need Kevin

547
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 5: Durant to like, if Yannis is there, at least he's like, well,

548
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 5: this guy I know is you know, taller than me

549
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 5: or maybe longer than me.

550
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 3: He's athletic.

551
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 5: You know something can at least make life more difficult

552
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 5: than anybody else one on one on that situation. And

553
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 5: you know that that is like Ben's Himmans after Game

554
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 5: one against the Hawks. You know, we heard him say

555
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 5: to Doc Rivers, I'm taking Tray, you know, because Trey

556
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 5: Young lit him up. Like again, that's sort of what

557
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 5: you want from your leaders in the team to say,

558
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 5: I don't care, I'm taking him. I'm guarding him now

559
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 5: because I want to I want that challenge. And it

560
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 5: was it was Kawhi in that Raptor series. Wasn't who

561
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 5: said I'm taking Yannis Game three and four here, and

562
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 5: it turned the series. So Yannis to not sort of

563
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 5: take that authority away from Bud and say, listen, I

564
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: don't know what you're doing, but I'm going on Kevin

565
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 5: Durant at least, if we're going to go down, it's

566
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 5: going to be Kevin Durant hitting threes over me and

567
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 5: not over a small guy like Chris Middleton. But you know, again,

568
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 5: Jannis maybe he lacks that leadership quality and Bud, certainly,

569
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 5: I mean Bud, he does just seem to sit there

570
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 5: and just go I'm going to stick true to what

571
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 5: I believe here. You know, it's like the Phil Jackson

572
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 5: where he would let his teams play through adversity a

573
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 5: little bit in the regular season, Bud's kind of almost

574
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 5: like because when you see that lead just chipping away,

575
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 5: chipping away, chipping away as well, it's like, you got

576
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 5: to You've got to find something here. Bodenholzer and he

577
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 5: storms at he you know, he power walks along the

578
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 5: sidelines there. You know, he's got his hand up like

579
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 5: this a lot, but he doesn't seem to be actually

580
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 5: changing things up and making something happen.

581
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: And again, though they changed the defense in the regular season,

582
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: that was really often to then there's you know, those

583
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: guys were experiences.

584
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 5: Enough to like, Okay, we've got to get the ball moving.

585
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 5: That's how we that's how we play, that's how we

586
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 5: beat this team. But it just, you know, it just

587
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 5: wasn't there. It was it was a really deflating performance

588
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 5: because now obviously they go home for Game six, but

589
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: you're I'm really trying to convince myself that there's any way. Okay,

590
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 5: may be they win game six, but there's no way

591
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 5: they're winning game seven. You know, because James Harden, now

592
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 5: that he's gotten through a game, he clearly didn't look good.

593
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 5: I expect he's going to play game six. In game seven,

594
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 5: play game six.

595
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: Ll Reggie Miller says they shouldn't go around them.

596
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 5: Listen, Reggie takes a lot of heat online, and I

597
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 5: think he's not too bad. I think some of that

598
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 5: heat is unwarranted him a legend of the game saying

599
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 5: rest the guy in games, rest Kevin around a games.

600
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: I was shocked by that. I think he was he

601
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: was gonna get maybe, yeah, And like I think, look,

602
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: if you if you tone that takedown and go, you

603
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: of course play your guys that are healthy, including him

604
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: to the best player in the world probably right now.

605
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: And if you fall down, you know, I don't even.

606
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: Know what it would have to be because they just

607
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: came back from seventeen, so I don't know at what

608
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: point in the game you'd have to be down by

609
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: so many, but you know you would wave the weight flag.

610
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: I guess the proverbial weight flag early in a game

611
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: six if you're down a significant but yeah, not resting

612
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: them from the jump.

613
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 5: Can you imagine Steve National and akd so kt, We're

614
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 5: going to rest you for the game six? Like you know,

615
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 5: a competitor's a light these after they want to go out.

616
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: They want to end this series and get as much

617
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: rest as possible, KD just take a break, don't play

618
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 5: the game. I'm sure nowhere it's we'll do it in

619
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 5: game seven.

620
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: But at the end.

621
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 5: Of the day, like I say, the Bucks it is now.

622
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: That was their chance, that was their real chance to

623
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 5: steal this series. You know, go home for a game

624
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 5: six and again, James Harden, whatever happens, he would have

625
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 5: been forced to play in game six if they would

626
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 5: if they were down through. Maybe he does, I'm not sure.

627
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 5: But now instead it's like the Bucks have to hope

628
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 5: Jannis has a great game, the game of his life.

629
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 5: Durant has the worst game of his life. Harden is

630
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 5: as bad as he was in game five. They get

631
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 5: no contributions from role players like Jeff Green and Blake Griffin,

632
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 5: and then Drew Holiday snaps out of like it's like

633
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 5: everything has to sort of tilt in Milwaukee's favorite against

634
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: Brooklyn to see them taking this series now, which is

635
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 5: which is disappointing because they I had much higher hopes

636
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: for them coming into this series.

637
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had to finish it. Obviously, they did win

638
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: game three and four, which seams of a lifetime ago,

639
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 4: but they had to finish it off.

640
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: For that second people were picking their matchup for the

641
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals after the Game four, when I think

642
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: this is still going seven, I think the Bucks can

643
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: certainly play better in Milwaukee. The question will be like,

644
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: is this the time they're showing the fortitude in the playoffs.

645
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: You're down three to two, you just had a depressing,

646
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: blown lead loss against the legendary performance by Kevin Durant.

647
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: But you're going home. I said it after Game three, Skeets.

648
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: You said it after Game four. There's still a twenty

649
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: three point game for the Bucks out there. It's more

650
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: likely to come in Milwaukee than it is to come

651
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: on the road, though, I mean, road court advantage apparently

652
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: is a thing now, So we'll see. If I'm the Bucks,

653
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, things have to change. But they

654
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: just got to shoot the ball. They only made what

655
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: how many threes they end up making last night? They

656
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: made thirteen. They shot forty percent. That's all right if

657
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: they shoot forty percent, but they get a bunch more

658
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: threes up. They hit twenty of them. We're looking at

659
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: game seven. Everybody said this was going seven because this

660
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: was gonna be a potential finals preview, even though they're

661
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: both in the Eastern Conference, the championship team could come

662
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: from this series. I still think that's the case. It's

663
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: easy to bury the Bucks when they do dumb stuff

664
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: because they keep doing dumb stuff and it's the same

665
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: dumb stuff. But they're still a good team. They've still

666
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: got the talent there. I think this is still going seven.

667
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was was going seven. I said

668
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: Bucks and six, So I'm in trouble. In fact, I

669
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: can't I can't even win that bet.

670
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, stars for them for the whole series. I mean,

671
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: what a different series it would be. And you know

672
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 4: they still have won, yeah, three of five games with

673
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 4: half their guys. I think James Harden, even if he

674
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: sits in game six, a great storyline would be Kyrie

675
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: Irving subbing in for James Harden. That would be the

676
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: perfect switch up there for Steve Nash. But to give

677
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: Yanny some credit, he did say he was going to

678
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: guard Kevin Durant in game six.

679
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Nice some so.

680
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: And a thirty four and twelve. I mean, Yannis did

681
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: have a good game, but he didn't guard Kevin Durant,

682
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant had a better game.

683
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it was Sean Palace, all right.

684
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: The NBA playoffs specially have a way of revealing just

685
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: who you really are as a coach and then as

686
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: a star player. And I mean that goes like with

687
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: what we're talking about with Bud and of course Jannis

688
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: and Katie. Like the fade away on Harden was bad

689
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: from Giannis him botching the pass from Middleton. I think

690
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: it was from Chris right where he just fumbled it

691
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: and that was you know, I don't know what he

692
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: just pan rushdd just a classic butterfinger.

693
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens. It was just unfortunate for him.

694
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: It happened at the worst possible time in that game.

695
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing you're going. I'm with you.

696
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: Bucks could win Game six, no doubt. It's just like

697
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: at this point, it's tough for me, even who had

698
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: the Bucks and have one hundred dollars back going with

699
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: test to be like, well, if it's a Game seven

700
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: and it's a three point game, or it's a tie

701
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: game with three minutes to go, there's just no possible

702
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: way I can convince myself that a Yannis, a Chris

703
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: or Drew will be coming through in the clutch. Over

704
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: of course, a kd let alone maybe a healthier hearted

705
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: and I think it's unlikely, but a Kyrie too. It's

706
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: just like, there's just no way I can convince myself.

707
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: What about a game game seven? Yeah, I'm get game seven,

708
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: game seven shirt. Yeah, yeah, but they gotta they gotta

709
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: win six first. I think that's the more important thing.

710
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: And sure, you know, the Bucks locked down Kevin Durant

711
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: as much as you can lock down Kevin Durant in

712
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: Milwaukee's I think they still got a chance. They'll get

713
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: the more favorable whistle.

714
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: PJ.

715
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: Tucker, no doubt will be uh roughing Kevin Durant up

716
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: as much as he can. Yannis apparently is gonna take

717
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: a turn. I don't think this thing's so. Somebody hit

718
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: me with the schedule that must be in.

719
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: Game six is Thursday night, I'm guessing back in Milwaukee.

720
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: Unless they got a weird two day break, I doubt it.

721
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: They might have the Sunday gain and then yeah.

722
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: Is it a Saturday night game seven? Is it a

723
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon game seven?

724
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 5: Look that up there, But if it even happens, seven

725
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: will be on Saturday night. There it is Milwaukee.

726
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: Okay, Back to Brooklyn, first Saturday, you know, to watch

727
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 4: you got to say in the post, like that is

728
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: his move, that that turn on the left block and

729
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: the fade away, it's like Lebron James fade away from

730
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: the left block. That's his move in the post. But

731
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: at the same time, why do you go to that.

732
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a post move at the end.

733
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: Just get him on the move a little bit. It's

734
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 4: just it's like the hard and defense was fine, but

735
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: that that was that's what Yannis likes to do it.

736
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 4: He's just he's not going to power through anybody. That's

737
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: not what he does.

738
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 5: Uh.

739
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: He just needs to be on the move. So it's

740
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 4: just strange. That's why Drew Holiday and Chris Middleton are

741
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: there to be the foil when Yannis can't find it.

742
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he just isn't on the move and they haven't.

743
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: They just they just haven't bailed him up.

744
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, Blake and Jeff Green and

745
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: Harden obviously none of those can protect the rim, but

746
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 5: they can body him, and Yannis allowing them to body

747
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 5: him plays into their hands. I mean a couple of

748
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 5: times you saw him, he said, moves those feet around,

749
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: you know, and he gets into that sort of jump

750
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: hook spot. That's the spot he needs to go to.

751
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 5: You know, even if he doesn't hit every one of them,

752
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: that's the one at least he can get the shot

753
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 5: off without them being able to sort of muscle him

754
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 5: a little bit. But he's getting I mean, he's you know,

755
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 5: he went into the paint so much more. I think

756
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: most of his baskets came from that area. But he

757
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: just has to be sort of ruthless, like a Chris

758
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 5: Paul where it's like every play that's that's where I'm

759
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 5: going because these guys there's no one up there who

760
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 5: can contest those shots. When I raise up and yeah

761
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: again him Budenholzer drew Holiday as a veteran saying get

762
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 5: down there. I'm just gonna get down there and clear

763
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 5: out for you to do it. But ah what but

764
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 5: it's hard to go bit after those games, you know

765
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: your brain's going, You're like, man, what the hell do I?

766
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 5: What do I process out of this game? Was an

767
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 5: incredible performan from brand. I feel bad for the Bucks

768
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 5: because they're a fun team. You know, you like the Bucks,

769
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 5: but just demoralizing a loss like that, because it's like

770
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 5: the mental game you know, they were up seventeen points.

771
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 5: They had a chance to really bury them and they couldn't.

772
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 5: So anyway, crazy things happen in the playoffs. We've seen

773
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: teams come back from three to two down, and uh,

774
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 5: maybe the Bucks can do it great.

775
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Trey is right.

776
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: I think, like, if you're a betting man, I mean,

777
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: isn't it more likely that we get a game seven?

778
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: I think?

779
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: I think so?

780
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: Then it ending doesn't start told the Roads to win people.

781
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: People buried them after the depressing, demoralizing, never going to

782
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: be able to respond from this downoad to rapter getting

783
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: blown out twice and they won an ugly one and

784
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: they won a pretty one. The Bucks are still good,

785
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: but when they look bad, it looks the same way

786
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: that we've seen for the past three seasons. So it's

787
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: impossible to shake it, right, That's the thing is like, again,

788
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: we're doing this again, but then we are easy to

789
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: slop off the times when they respond and actually do

790
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: bounce back, which is a thing that the Bucks have done.

791
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's got to be the big

792
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: This is the biggest game of Yannis's career coming up

793
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: in game six, So Let's see the best game of

794
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 1: be Honest's career.

795
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: Let's see Thursday night, that game six and then if

796
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: it goes seven Saturday night, the.

797
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: Schedule says on ABC.

798
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break before we start talking

799
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: about the All NBA teams TK, what do you get?

800
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the All NBA teams. The

801
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: three twenty twenty one All NBA teams were announced on

802
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, and you won't believe this. A couple notable

803
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: names were left off. But let's discuss who made it first. Jad,

804
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: if you want to go through these slides for everybody

805
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: here on the stream team, while I read the names,

806
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: All NBA First Team, your guards Steph Curry, Luka, Doncic,

807
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: You BIG's the Joker, Kawhi Leonard and Jannis All NBA

808
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: second team guards Chris Paul, Damian Lillard, big Man, Joel Embiid,

809
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Julius Randall making an All NBA second team, and Lebron

810
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: James for I believe what the seventheenth time in his

811
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: career or something like that, making an All NBA team

812
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: and All NBA Third Team, Kyrie Bradley, Beal, Rudy Gobert,

813
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler and Paul George. So Trey, let's start with

814
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: you just a big picture question. Any issues with these

815
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: All NBA selections overall? We can get into the nitty

816
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: gritty snubs and all that, but like, yeah, just your

817
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: first thought with these three teams.

818
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, the biggest issue is skeets.

819
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: You mentioned it, only three teams Barry Lackers and not sickos.

820
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: But all in all, I think these are pretty solid,

821
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: no real complaints. I will say the weirdest thing by

822
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: far when we go back and look at this season,

823
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: especially after the way last night went down, is that

824
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is not on an All NBA team, despite

825
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: the fact we just saw him have one of the

826
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: greatest playoff games ever and kind of everybody is agreeing

827
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: right now that he is currently the best player in

828
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: the game, but he only played thirty two.

829
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: Games this season.

830
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: Kind of hard to make the case.

831
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Just gonna look very weird historically that there's no KD here,

832
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: considering you know that that's had a solid season, but

833
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: people aren't gonna remember the calf injury and all this

834
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: kind of stuff.

835
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 6: But very weird.

836
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: I thought on a night that All NBA was announced,

837
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant said, I'm actually the All NBA player. But

838
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: another thing I liked, Nicola Jokish, Joel Embiid, and Rudy

839
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: Gobert all made it as centers actual centers. A lot

840
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: of ink was spilled, a lot of digital pixels were spilled,

841
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: a lot of podcast bandwidth chat about forward eligibility, and

842
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: it didn't matter because everybody's like, these guys are centers.

843
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: We're keeping them as centers. Another thing I liked Kawhi

844
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: Leonard over Lebron as the forward and under the radar.

845
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: Great season for Kawhi this year, twenty five point six rebounds,

846
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: five assists, almost fifty forty ninety. He ended up thirty

847
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: nine from three eighty eight from the field. He only

848
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: played seven more games than Lebron, so it's not totally

849
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: an availability thing, but it felt like Kawhi's season was

850
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: definitely going under the radar, but I guess not. So

851
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: those were my big takeaways. The centers remained centers, quiet

852
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: over Lebron, and now Katie just looks weird.

853
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 4: Lee.

854
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: Let's get to some snubs. Let's just go to Let's

855
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: go to each conference. So let's go to the Eastern Conference. First,

856
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: who's the biggest snub there?

857
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 6: To you?

858
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 5: Well, I think for me it's Jason Tatum. I think

859
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 5: he had a fantastic season. Now, he missed some time

860
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 5: with coronavirus protocol and stuff like that, but he was

861
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 5: an All Star again this year. Just a fantastic player.

862
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 5: But he also got more points total than Kyrie Irving,

863
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: who finished as a guard on the All NBA thirteen

864
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 5: with sixty one points. Tatum finished with sixty nine. But

865
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: because of the positional changes there that Tatum was actually

866
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: eligible as a guard, but he got more votes as

867
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: a forward.

868
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: This is so stupid.

869
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: He misses the time. This is they're going to fix this.

870
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: That's doss.

871
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: So he not only misses out on All NBA selection

872
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 5: and that accolade that you carry for life, but it

873
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 5: also cost him because he can't now sign this Supermax extension,

874
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 5: which it would have been in value at an extra

875
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 5: thirty two million dollars for it. So now money. You know,

876
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: he's gonna be fine, He's gonna have enough money.

877
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: Throughout his career.

878
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 5: But still, these things are important for players. And you

879
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 5: know the fact that he missed out simply because of

880
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 5: that positional quirk. If you like it's weird, it's weird,

881
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 5: and I just think it sort of reflects badly on

882
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 5: how these are set up. If a guy who can

883
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: have more votes actually misses now, I know, like for example,

884
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 5: in the Coach of the Year, I believe Monty had

885
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: more first place votes and TIB's got more total votes,

886
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 5: so things like that can happen, but it just sort

887
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 5: of seems a little bit weird that they can allow

888
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: that to happen like that, so that a guy with

889
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 5: less votes gets on over a guy who has more

890
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: votes because of the position. So he's a great player.

891
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum had a great season. The Celtics did trail

892
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 5: off towards the end a little bit there, but I

893
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 5: think he was deserving. I'm not going to get into that,

894
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 5: well he should have been out of this guy because

895
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 5: I think the other guys were deserving as well. But

896
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 5: at the end of the season, when it's all said

897
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 5: and done, he misses out, and I think he's unlucky.

898
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 5: So I think he had a great year.

899
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, this position stuff, though we already talked about this

900
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: like weeks ago, but either get rid of it completely

901
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: if you want to do that, just get rid of it.

902
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: And then now we're just picking the fifteen best players

903
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter, and you can still rank them

904
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: one through five and then six through ten, eleven through

905
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: fifteen for your teams or like this perfect Tatum example,

906
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: you have to you have to pick one position because

907
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: this thing where you can then split like some voters

908
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: are saying he's the guard, some voters are saying he's

909
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: a four. Well, it actually came back to by him

910
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: in the ass. So if he was only allowed as

911
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: a forward, let's say, or guard, doesn't matter, Like maybe

912
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: it's up to the team. Maybe it's up to the

913
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: player for crying out loud at the start of the season.

914
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

915
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: Then you know that gets rid of this issue too.

916
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: But tasks Western Conference, is there a snub to you

917
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: that you're like, Oh, that's that's tough.

918
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: That person isn't in the mix here. Who would get

919
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: your vote for that?

920
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: Oh? We talked a lot about how deep this guard

921
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: situation is. I don't even know. I don't even know

922
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: how you did ten teams. I mean there could be

923
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: like twenty teams worth of guards because Donovan Mitchell and

924
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: Devin Book are both left off that's rough. I think.

925
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 4: You know, we had this conversation Withovan Mitchell and whether

926
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 4: or not he's a superstar. He's definitely a playoff superstar

927
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: for me. But I think it's fine leaving him off

928
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: the All NBA teams because this is a regular season

929
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: NOD and his team does it by committee in the

930
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: regular season, but he takes over in the postseason. So

931
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 4: the six guys I think are entirely fine in Steph Curry,

932
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: Luca Damian Lillard, Chris Paul, Bradley Beal, and Kyrie Irving

933
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: to take over him. But then you know Devin Booker

934
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: on the outside looking and seems a little nuts now

935
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 4: as well. But you know, he did it by committee

936
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: with Chris Paul. So it's it's it's two guys I

937
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: think are fine to be left off. I think Jason

938
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: Tatum is a little bit of the bonkers one. He

939
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 4: did get COVID nineteen this year, and so it seems

940
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: like he missed a lot of time, But in the end,

941
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: he only missed eight games, which is yeah, which is

942
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: phenomenal considering you know, he got it earlier in the year,

943
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: and he continuously talked about how it was affecting him

944
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: over and over and over again. He's a long hauler,

945
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: it seems, but I think I think he could have

946
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: snu game over Jimmy b. You know, Jimmy Butler is

947
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: getting a lot of love as you know, a guy

948
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: who's gonna make it every single year. But you know,

949
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum was just He's sort of like what Kevin

950
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: Durant was yesterday. He was just the Celtics offense onto

951
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: him himself a lot of this season, and especially with

952
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: Jaylen Brown was out, so Jimmy Butler missed more time

953
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 4: than Tatum, So I would sneak Tatum in there. He's

954
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: just he was a beast this year. I mean we

955
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: saw the you know, the fifty point game there in

956
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: the playing and all that. Like it's hard for me

957
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: to leave that guy off.

958
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tatum averaged more points, rebound, steals, and blocks, had

959
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: fewer turnovers than Paul George and then Tatum had more points, rebounds,

960
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 2: blocks than Jimmy Butler while also finishing with a higher

961
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: three point percentage in free throw percentage. Yeah, Tatum's a

962
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: tough snub. There's so many Look, the one thing you

963
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: always take away from these especially I guess in the

964
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: last couple of years, Trey is like, my god, NBA

965
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: is pretty fire right now. There's so many damn good players,

966
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: Like where I am making ten all NBA teams and

967
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: people are still calling out snubs and saying, how did

968
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: you not have this guy in the mix? Because there's

969
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: so much talent and it's like where you are in

970
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: the league, how your team plays now?

971
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: Bill is interesting, right, because correct me if I'm wrong.

972
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: He's the only guy on these any of these teams,

973
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: Like of the fifteen guys that was on a team

974
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: with a losing record. I think I have that right.

975
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: It's just being correct song and that's where they like, well,

976
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: how like, was Donovan Mitchell not the best player on

977
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: the Jazz with the best record in the league. Yeah,

978
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: he missed time at the end, but wasn't significant enough.

979
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: I mean, Lebron missed a ton of time. He's still

980
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: in there.

981
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: I know it's Lebron James. We hold it a higher standard.

982
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: But that's a bit of a tough one.

983
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: Despite bal going back and forth a little bit at

984
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: the end with Curry for the scoring title, I think

985
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 2: Jazz fans have a right to be a little upset

986
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: about that because Bill wasn't on a winning team if

987
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: if that matters at all to you in All NBA votes,

988
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: because it doesn't seem too as much as All Star

989
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 2: votes for some reason, right, people don't care as much, Yeah,

990
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: like about your records, Like, hey, he's an awesome player.

991
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 2: I don't care if his team was under.

992
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

993
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there were gonna be a few tough

994
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: choices here, Damian Earth not Damian Lillard, sorry, Chris Paul

995
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: and Devin Booker. Was It just felt like that was

996
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a choice who you know, It feels like

997
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: Chris Paul is the right choice now having seen the postseason.

998
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: But like Tessa is saying, this is technically a regular

999
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: season award, and there was gonna be the choice. It

1000
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: felt like between Westbrook and Beale. Beal, you know, was

1001
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: a league leader in scoring for a long time, and

1002
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: I would like to see the percentage of leading scorers

1003
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: in the league who make the All NBA team at

1004
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: least somewhere out there.

1005
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: It's got to be super high.

1006
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, these are the best players in the game,

1007
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: so you can see you can see the pitch there.

1008
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know Donovan Mitchell.

1009
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell needs to take.

1010
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: Over the reins of Damian Lillard as the guy who

1011
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: gets snubbed the most here. You know, Damian Lillard often

1012
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: would have something to say after an All Star game,

1013
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: after an All NBA selection. Now he has kind of

1014
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: established himself in the upper echelon of a guy who's

1015
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna make it time and time again, whereas Donovan Mitchell

1016
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: is knocking on that door. Skeets loves every Western Conference

1017
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: guard out there except for donv Mitchell. It feels like

1018
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: at some points, but yeah, I mean, the Jazz were

1019
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: the best team in the league for the whole season,

1020
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: and Donovan Mitchell was their main offensive player. At least,

1021
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: I feel like voters are just like, hey, we got

1022
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: one Jazz on there. We got Rudy Gobert. He's a

1023
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: huge part of their team. So maybe that's it. But

1024
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: I would have been happy with Mitchell over Beial. If

1025
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: you want to make a case for Westbrook Overbial, that's

1026
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: fine too. But it really just comes down to there

1027
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: are a lot of incredible guards in this league, and

1028
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: sometimes you can go ten teams deep.

1029
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: What about one of your favorite players not making it too?

1030
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: There not even Zach Lavine, Zion Williamson, Zion Williamson, though,

1031
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: you know, not even really getting close was a little

1032
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of a shock. But again, that part

1033
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: of it's, yeah, he fels so young and your team

1034
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: is not great, so they're gonna.

1035
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 1: Be Yeah, he'll be on he'll be on these teams

1036
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: in the future.

1037
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: But I mean he didn't even make my team. Yeah,

1038
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: fair enough, what we're gonna say. I thought you were.

1039
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 5: I thought you were gonna say Zach Lavine getting a

1040
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 5: vote there. I mean, I thought he had a great season.

1041
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 5: I think I think he was all NBA worthy.

1042
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: But good for him.

1043
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 5: He did make an Old Star Game. At least. Then,

1044
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 5: you know, he showed he's a he's an improving every

1045
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 5: year is at Lavine. So maybe he can sneak onto

1046
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 5: one of these before his career is done. I just

1047
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 5: didn't think this season was I.

1048
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: Think it's possible. Yeah, I was gonna ask what was

1049
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: your favorite like weird vote task or throw a vote

1050
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: or just like what that guy got to vote, you know,

1051
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: because you get the whole breakdown on NBA dot Com,

1052
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: Like here's all the other guys that receive votes. Did

1053
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: you have a favorite.

1054
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 4: I'll just jump to Lebron for a sec because I

1055
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: didn't even look at the weird votes on this one.

1056
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 4: I think Lebron that we're not even even talking about,

1057
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: has his games played, just kind of it shows that

1058
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: this is a bit about narrative. We know Lebron is incredible,

1059
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 4: so he's fine. He's on there. We just can't leave

1060
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: him off. There's no way. He only played forty five

1061
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 4: games this year. But yeah, I'm fine keeping him on

1062
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: there too. I just don't care. I just think he

1063
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: is one of the best players, so he's totally fine.

1064
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 4: It is seeing it is weird. Now we're at the

1065
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: point of his career where he's not a lock for

1066
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: First All NBA, which means we're getting old. He's getting old.

1067
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 4: Now he can make the second team, and it's it's normal,

1068
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: you know, it's just now part of his career. He

1069
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: started his career like that in four h five. He

1070
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: didn't make it the first year, but he made it

1071
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 4: the second year as a second All NBA. It's same

1072
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Speaker 4: for the following year, then a run of first and

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00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: now we're in the we're in the old man game

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Speaker 4: where Lebron is yeah, second or third but he's still automatic,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's I think, you know, when you

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Speaker 4: look back at a guy's resume, I guess what's more

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00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 4: important is just the overall accumulation. Yeah, overall number of

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00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 4: All NBA versus versus teams. Yeah, you don't really specify

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00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 4: fifteen All NBA first Although it's nice to have that

1080
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: record if you do have the record, but it's more

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Speaker 4: important just to be there.

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Speaker 2: I've never had an argument about basketball, like greatest players

1083
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: of all time, like their rankings or whatever, be it

1084
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: in the bar, the barbership, whatever. I've never once heard

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00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: somebody go, well, yeah, he made fifteen All NBA teams,

1086
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: but he was only a first team All NBA four

1087
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Speaker 2: times or.

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Speaker 3: Something like that. I've never heard it said.

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00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 4: No, I agree.

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Speaker 3: I just agree.

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Speaker 1: I think you do hear it. You'll hear it with

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00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: more like fringe cases. You'll hear like Reggie Miller, he

1093
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: made some All NBA teams, he was never a first

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00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: team All NBA guy, And I think that that does

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00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: factor in. I think first team is really the only

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Speaker 1: team that matters.

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Speaker 3: Sure, okay, second and third doesn't matter. They sure canceled.

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00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: It's like Lee, you love Dirknovitski. Do you know, if

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00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: to help your head, how many I don't know all

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Speaker 2: NBA selections Durknviski.

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Speaker 5: Had North the top of my head, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 5: he probably had twelve twelve.

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00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: Now, how is the first team?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, first thing we see he was against Tim Duncan

1105
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: and Kevin Garnett. From a lot of that, I'll say

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Speaker 5: he's snuck in for probably four first teams.

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Speaker 2: I think you're a little high. I don't have in

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Speaker 2: front of you. I think it's three. I don't I

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00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: don't even know. My point is, we don't know, and

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Speaker 2: it doesn't know.

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00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: We don't know if you were getting in a discussion,

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00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: if you were getting in a discussion and you were saying,

1113
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Speaker 1: who's the best four between those three Tim Duncan, Kevin

1114
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: Garnett and Dirk Nevitzk guaranteed that first team all in,

1115
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1116
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: So this is where I disagree. I think you're one point.

1117
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: When a guy makes the Hall of Fame or is

1118
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: like a borderline guy that's hall of Fame, that's the

1119
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: one time it does come up in people's blog posts

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Speaker 2: and on other podcast Oh well, the guy was a

1121
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: five time all NBA player, buddy, he never made the

1122
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: first team, or he made it once. Whatever. That's when

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Speaker 2: you sort of hear. I'd never have heard somebody say,

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Speaker 2: you know, between Shack and a key man, how many

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Speaker 2: all NBA selections they have? Okay, well, how many of

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Speaker 2: them were first? How many of them? I just never

1127
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: have heard that. I disagree on that. I don't because

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Speaker 2: we don't even know the answers. Why wouldn't we sickos

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Speaker 2: know the answers to any of those? How many did

1130
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: Cornet make? How many did Dirk make? How many did

1131
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: Duncan make?

1132
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: We don't know if you're.

1133
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: Telling if you're telling me on the beach step in podcast,

1134
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: we're deciding between the top the top four, you know,

1135
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: power forwards of the two thousands. I guarantee you're looking

1136
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: up which teams they finished up on.

1137
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: As a sick o, I know you're gonna be there

1138
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: looking it up. But I think my point is like

1139
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: if you not, if you don't know, then I don't

1140
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: think anyone really cares.

1141
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't know how many points Kareem Abdul Jabbar

1142
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: has scored in his career either, right, I mean a lot?

1143
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 6: There are.

1144
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: Does it matter. Yeah, it does matter.

1145
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: And I think that first team one hundred percent matters,

1146
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: and that's you know, second and third team. To me,

1147
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: those are basically the same thing. But if you can

1148
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: say I was one of the five best in the league, also,

1149
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: I was the best in my position. That matters more

1150
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: than coming in second and third.

1151
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Speaker 4: Four all NBA first teams for Dirk for I think

1152
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: I've been more highly Yeah. Wow, I thought it was

1153
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: four first, four seconds and three thirds.

1154
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Speaker 5: I'm team Duncan on me? Did he make it as

1155
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 5: a SAI again?

1156
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: Four first, four seconds and three thirds? He only made

1157
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: it eleven all NBA selections.

1158
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 4: That's what it looks like. Oh no, he made it twelve.

1159
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: He made it twelve.

1160
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that. I don't know the breakdown. This

1161
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: is a funny tweet talking about all this, though Paul

1162
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: George now holds the record for most all NBA third

1163
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: team selections ever. Wow that weird, asked Carmelo Anthony, David Robinson,

1164
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: and Shaquille O'Neal. Paul George is mister All NBA third Team.

1165
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: That's his new nickname, get rid of playoff p Okay.

1166
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: That's fitting. It's fitting, is sort of is it sort of?

1167
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 4: Is it is a great Hall of Fame debate? Will

1168
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 4: Paul George make it?

1169
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: Just wait, ten years from now, we're going to be saying,

1170
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Speaker 1: Paul George made a bunch of All NBA teams, didn't

1171
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: make a first team.

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Speaker 2: He'll still be in. He'll still make the All of

1173
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 2: Fame because he made an All NBA tea. I mean,

1174
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: I guess I just don't. I think the honor is

1175
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: in being one of the best players at your position

1176
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: that year. Now you're saying it's a more of an

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00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: honor to be considered one of the top two or,

1178
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: in case of a center, the best at your position. Sure,

1179
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: I just don't think casuals by any means, And I

1180
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: don't even think us get into the nitty gritty with

1181
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: just where they fall in All NBA selections.

1182
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: But people care about All Star.

1183
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: Selections more than all NBA, which is a whole other

1184
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: topic which is just as weird.

1185
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: But anyway, let's take one more break and then we'll

1186
00:50:59,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: get to tweet.

1187
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a lot of breaking news here to discuss.

1188
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: We still got to talk about Chris Paul, We got

1189
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: to talk about Kawhi Leonard and now Stanman Gundy, by

1190
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: all accounts, has just been fired as head coach of

1191
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: the Pelicans. But before we get to that, Lee tweeted.

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Speaker 5: The Nate.

1193
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 4: Treed over night.

1194
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 5: Wow Twitter, So not a bad night on the tweets

1195
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 5: last night.

1196
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: Quite a bit going around.

1197
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 5: But you addressed a couple of them there, Magic and

1198
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 5: Reggie Miller and.

1199
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Speaker 2: I had one.

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Speaker 5: I thought I had a bang up because I don't

1201
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 5: know if you guys saw it. Halftime during the Nets

1202
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 5: and Bucks game going around there was a guy, a

1203
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 5: country singer the DMX sign. He did a couple of

1204
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 5: but and it was people were saying as James Dole,

1205
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 5: it was jd in the straight shop. I'm like, oh

1206
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 5: my god, this is incredible. So I DM James Herbert,

1207
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 5: who was there. I was saying, is this that didn't

1208
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 5: look like him? But there's so many people were saying

1209
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 5: was him? And I was like, that's if that's him,

1210
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: that's my Twitter night. Turns out it wasn't it Unford

1211
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 5: not quite as much fun. But I did get a

1212
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 5: tweet that I think all of us can relate to.

1213
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: Came from Michael Grange, our old friend up in Toronto

1214
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 5: there saying hamstring James Harden is paying tribute to men's

1215
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: leguas everywhere, moving as little as possible. So I was

1216
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: not to break whatever isn't broken, chilling at the bottom

1217
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 5: of the zone telling the other guys what to do

1218
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 5: because he can't do it himself. I'm getting emotional just

1219
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 5: tweeting this, and yeah, I think as all of us

1220
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 5: are either in our forties or approaching our forties, that's

1221
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 5: what happens when you start playing pickup. You you know,

1222
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 5: you sort of start pointing the finger a little bit

1223
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 5: more and you know, not doing quite as much out

1224
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 5: there on the court. And the best part though, was

1225
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 5: breaking whatever it isn't broken or not breaking it. Yeah,

1226
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 5: I think that's what it feels like. Sometimes you're playing

1227
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 5: your wake up the next day, he's like.

1228
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: God, what what did I do?

1229
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 5: I didn't even do anything. This come out of my body.

1230
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 5: I didn't even know exist that starts hurting. So I

1231
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 5: wonder how James is feeling this morning, probably a little

1232
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 5: bit better than.

1233
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: Us, speaking of Like I guess I was talking about

1234
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: ourselves playing back as well. Lee, this was a tough

1235
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: look for you and for us. Honestly, we went to

1236
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: Trey and I we stopped by Club Top Shot last night.

1237
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: Our guy Pete invited us to swing by. It was

1238
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 2: a birthday, so we had him to crash the live

1239
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: stream and whatever. These guys want to battle us to

1240
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: a game A five and five, four and four. We'll

1241
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: figure it out in Vegas, if possible, Club Top Shot

1242
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: versus US, right, the duel, Well, we haven't figured that

1243
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: part out, but anyway, you know, they're asking for comparison.

1244
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: They're asking like they're trying to like scout us, like,

1245
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: are you guys getting any good? You know, what positions

1246
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: do you play? So we're going through it and I

1247
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: start bringing up Lelely. I mean, this guy's automatic from

1248
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 2: three point Land. This guy helps Steph Curry win an

1249
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: All Star three point contest. This guy like show around

1250
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 2: with him. He's beaten NBA legends And like, while I'm

1251
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: saying this, Pete, he's like looking it up online. He's like, well,

1252
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: let me see, right, So he pulls up your I

1253
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: believe Trey, it was the first time Lee did the

1254
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: three point shootout. Yeah, you're in the dogs leaved Jersey

1255
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 2: and you are brutal.

1256
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 3: I looked like.

1257
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: The biggest saying, man, this guy is amazing, and then

1258
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: we're watching a clip of you breaking threes.

1259
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: Listen.

1260
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 5: I started off two for two that year as well.

1261
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 5: I remember I was on track for like thirty points

1262
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 5: or whatever the maximum was there. But then I think

1263
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 5: I missed like eighteen in a row after that, and

1264
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 5: the TK and I.

1265
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: Were like, he's a lot better than this. So he

1266
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: got better as the years went on. That wasn't even

1267
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: a three point NBA three point line. Actually it's better

1268
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: for anyway.

1269
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: It was.

1270
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 2: It was very fun.

1271
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: I haven'd that one be the first. I don't know

1272
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 5: pops up.

1273
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1274
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 5: I think mister Google's got his.

1275
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: Informance somehow, mister to ask Jeeves, what the hell is

1276
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: going on with that one coming up first? Okay, great stuff. Yeah,

1277
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: you had a lot of great tweets to pick from there.

1278
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: I like that one from Green, who, by the way,

1279
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: is a great basketball player, and that's what almost like

1280
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: time ago that I played on them, but he was

1281
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: he was legit good.

1282
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he's a good shooter.

1283
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: Two.

1284
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: He's that's what I've never played Sam. He legit is

1285
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 2: really good.

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Speaker 3: He's got unlimited Green.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a hell the shooter. He's a beautiful shooter

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Speaker 2: of the basketball. I would say, Lee, you would love it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so news here right before we jumped on, and the

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Speaker 2: news happening while we're recording. Let's start with Shams early

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Speaker 2: this morning saying Chris Paul is in the COVID nineteen protocols,

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Speaker 2: so the West Finals are going to start either on

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Speaker 2: Sunday or on Tuesday. And Shams notes that the protocols

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Speaker 2: allow for a quicker return to action for those who

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Speaker 2: are vaccinated.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think we know is CP three is vaccinated,

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Speaker 3: So we really don't know.

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Speaker 1: Apparently now Jalen Rose is saying that Chris Paul is vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of this is hinging on if Jalen

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Speaker 1: Rose is accurate about Chris Paul's vaccination status.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean there's almost test.

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Speaker 3: There's not much to add to this because we just

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Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, this sucks, but we hope. I mean,

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Speaker 3: especially with a guy.

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Speaker 2: Like Chris Paul, we just got to talking about like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: this is amazing. You know, knock on wood. He hasn't

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Speaker 2: been injured like this would this would be terrible if

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Speaker 2: he were to miss a couple of games of the

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00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals because of this, but I guess we

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 4: It would be terrible, but I'm optimistic. I know we

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00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 4: don't really know, don't have details, But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: we know this league, we know the NBA makes the

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Speaker 4: decisions it wants to make, and Lebron James was just

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Speaker 4: at a tequila function where he broke quote unquote protocol.

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Speaker 4: They got him back playing pretty soon, so you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm just taking all the information I've seen. Whether or

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Speaker 4: not Chris Paul is vaccinated yeat, the game started either

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Speaker 4: four days or six days, he would have four days

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Speaker 4: off or six days off, so it seems like a

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Speaker 4: pretty big number. You know, it is questionable whether or

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00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 4: not he starts the Western Conference Finals. Maybe he misses

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Speaker 4: a game, but I'm still pretty optimistic that he goes

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Speaker 4: out there in place, because you know the rules. I'm

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Speaker 4: not even sure why it was publicized. I guess it

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Speaker 4: is a bad sign that it was publicized, because really,

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Speaker 4: you know, if you take my position to heart, if

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Speaker 4: you think, well, you know, if he was going to

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Speaker 4: be fine before game one, then why would they even

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Speaker 4: put it out there. Well, yeah, that's that's that's a

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00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 4: fair point. I'm just talking it out here in my head,

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Speaker 4: but I don't know. I would guess. I would guess

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Speaker 4: that that's a decent amount of time and hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 4: the case is that he has vaccinated. But again, yeah,

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Speaker 4: whether Jalen Rose is right or not, the NBA will

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Speaker 4: make the right decision hopefully and get him out there

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Speaker 4: as soon as healthily possible.

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Speaker 2: All right. Well, in related news, because the Sons are

1339
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: waiting to find out who the heck they're going to

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Speaker 2: play in the Western Conference Finals. Brian Windhorse tweeting this morning,

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard is expected to miss Game five tonight against

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Speaker 2: the Jazz after a knee injury he suffered in Game four.

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Speaker 2: I guess it was like four and a half minutes

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Speaker 2: or so left in that one, and then he didn't

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Speaker 2: return because he had done some damage there. I think

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Speaker 2: this is on his left knee, and his status for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the series is in doubt. TK. Now,

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00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: this is huge. This is massive because he is on

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Speaker 2: the short list of so far in these playoffs for

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00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: you know, most consistent and greatest player Kawhi is. And

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00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: of course we've seen what he's done before with the

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: and even back to his first days what's your take

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00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: on this. It looks like he's not gonna play in

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00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: Game five tonight.

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Speaker 1: And apparently he's out indefinitely now, which means it could

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Speaker 1: be the rest of the series, It could be the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season if the Clippers continued to advance.

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Speaker 1: This is potentially a championship changing injury for Kawhi Leonard

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00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: because Kawhi in Game six and seven against the Mavericks

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Speaker 1: was a huge part of the reason that the Clippers

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Speaker 1: pulled off that comeback, just like he was a huge

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Speaker 1: part of the reason that the Clips got wins in

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Speaker 1: Games three and four, both he and and Paul George

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Speaker 1: going for thirty in both of those games in back

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Speaker 1: to back games for the first time in a long

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Speaker 1: long time. A lot of pressure now on Paul George

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Speaker 1: to be that number one guy. He did have a

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Speaker 1: first team All NBA appear in the Skeets Good twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: so he just got.

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Speaker 3: A third teamer.

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Speaker 1: But we need to see a first team Paul George

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Speaker 1: if the Clippers are going to keep this up, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, who knows what's gonna happen.

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00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: You know, we just saw Kyrie Irving went out for

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00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: the nets. We're thinking, Okay, maybe this is the Bucks

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00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: chance to go out there and do it. They got

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Speaker 1: smacked in the face by Kevin Durant. So you can't

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00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: take anything for granted. If you're the Jazz, you got

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Speaker 1: to come out tonight and take it to the Clippers

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00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you're missing your best player and we

1381
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Speaker 1: know it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a bummer though, because Kawhi was balling.

1384
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: He had turned it on to the point where we're like,

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Speaker 1: maybe he's been the best player in the playoffs until

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant did what he did last night sixty forty

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Speaker 1: and ninety I think during the first round, and they

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: know he's been something close to that. Here in the

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Speaker 1: second round, a major bloke.

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Speaker 2: The stream team is saying, over under forty five and

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Speaker 2: a half points for Paul George, Lee, what are you

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00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: doing with that one? You're going over? I mean, I

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00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: why not do it?

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't it be great to see if Paul George like

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00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 5: fifty pointer in that. Wouldn't he just silence so many

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Speaker 5: of the doubts and hate as if he did carry

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Speaker 5: the Clippers to a victory tonight in Utah, and had

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Speaker 5: a Kevin Durant like performance that it would be awesome

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Speaker 5: see because Paul George, when he gets it going, he

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00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 5: is like Kyrie Irving to watch, like he's so smooth,

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 5: He's got all the sh shots, he can get inside,

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01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 5: he can do it all. It's just he has had

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01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 5: moments where he's let himself down. But a great opportunity

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01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 5: for him to do that tonight.

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01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: But the issues with injuries too, I mean, of course done,

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01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 2: Mitchell's a little hard. I don't know if Conley's coming back.

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Speaker 5: I think I saw Conley got the James Harden sort

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01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 5: of upgrade to questionable I think, or doubtful maybe anyway,

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 5: we'll see, We'll see what happens. Maybe this Kawhi injury,

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Speaker 5: maybe the Jazz say, well, maybe we just sit Mike

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Speaker 5: Conley out for another game. Who knows, but I'm optimistic,

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Speaker 5: as I've seen in the stream team, I'm confirmed, but

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01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 5: they're saying it's a knee sprain, so that indefinitely for

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01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 5: Kawhi hopefully is more kind of like we're just not

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Speaker 5: saying he'll be back for Game six, so let's hope

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Speaker 5: he isn't. It's nothing more serious than that, because as always,

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Speaker 5: we just don't want any of these series decided by

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 5: an injury, although most of them, most of them pretty.

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Speaker 3: Much to some extent, like it feels like we've just

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Speaker 3: yah left and right.

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Speaker 5: If you're Chris Paul, who's whose bodies let him down

1422
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 5: in the playoffs so many times, if he was to

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 5: miss a significant time with coronavirus protocols, that would just

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01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 5: be devastating. But you know, we know those are sort

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01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 5: of ten to fourteen days, so you know, at worst

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Speaker 5: I think he misses Well, it depends on cose on

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01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 5: this series.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's just deflating, isn't it to see these

1430
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Speaker 5: guys going down right now?

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Speaker 2: We've had a great playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It's just the Bucks that are healthy, right. I think

1433
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: the Bucks are like the only team that's pretty much

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01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: fully healthy here. The Hawks are missing DeAndre Hunter. I

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 1: mean not as big as er missing Kyrie Irving, but yeah,

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: definitely a starter. But yeah, basically every other team is

1437
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: dealing with injuries as well. I guess I guess Embat

1438
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: is still playing, but I hampered a little bit, as

1439
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 1: we saw in Game four.

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Speaker 4: I guess the Suns the only team that's through are

1441
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 4: the fairly healthy ones.

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul Yeah if he's back, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Final pason news.

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01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: My god, I might need some help with this one, guys,

1445
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: because I saw it coming through in the stream team

1446
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: with the news that Stanban Gundy is out as the

1447
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: Pelicans head coachy. Devincenzo for the best good point. Yeah,

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01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,959
Speaker 2: SVG one season was that one year? Oh my god,

1449
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: was coaching the Pelicans for three seasons. Uh yeah, one

1450
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: season and he is out. Tasks shocked by by this news,

1451
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: this decision from Griffin the Pelicans organization to move this

1452
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: quick off SVG.

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01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely a little bit shocked. I thought he'd get

1454
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 4: more than one season. But it sort of seems like

1455
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 4: a bit of a uh a Lloyd Pier situation where

1456
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: he wasn't connecting with players, and you know, by some

1457
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 4: reporting Kevin O'Connor after a Woch's report that he was fired,

1458
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connor reporting that an assistant may take over, and that,

1459
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 4: you know, leads me to believe that there was just

1460
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 4: some sort of butting of heads with the head coach

1461
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 4: and that wasn't that wasn't being connected to the players,

1462
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 4: So he wasn't connecting with the players. So yeah, I

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01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 4: am shocked from the outside looking in knowing how great

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01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: a coach stan Van Gundy is. You know, I considered

1465
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 4: Lloyd Pierce a good coach. I considered him a smart

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 4: basketball mind. But at the end of the day, I

1467
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 4: guess if you're not connecting with players, And the Pelicans

1468
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: front office saw success with Nate McMillan an assistant immediately

1469
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 4: after it without switching any of the roster, although the

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 4: roster did get healthy and that helped Nate McMillan a lot.

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: All those guys who were signed with free agents as

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01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: free agents really just came back healthy and that helped

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01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: a lot. I think that's probably a motivating factor for

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 4: the Pelicans' front office. But you know, I'm a stand

1475
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: Van fan, just like I was a Lloyd Pierce fan

1476
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 4: as a man, So you know, I feel it. But

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01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 4: I guess there were these rumors towards the end of

1478
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 4: the season that stand Van wasn't really connecting with his

1479
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 4: players all that well, and they decided to make a decision.

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean I could see the reflection in

1481
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: the mirror of the Hawk situation there.

1482
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 3: Who do they want?

1483
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: Is what I always go to when this happens after

1484
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: some time after the end of your regular season, when

1485
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: other coaches start getting fired and are now available, and

1486
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: there's many other open spots, so maybe there's a race

1487
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: for a particular coach. Anyone come to mine, TK And

1488
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: what do you think of SPG being fired here?

1489
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: Well, I think it just shows how accelerated the team

1490
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: building process is.

1491
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 4: Here.

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01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: The Pelicans have a star in Zion Williamson. Stan Van

1493
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: Gunny put the ball in his hands and said, go

1494
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: to work, be a point center, be the point shack,

1495
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: and score as many points as you can in the post.

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01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: I thought it was a great move. I thought they

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01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: would continue that.

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 1: It was kind of similar to like Zion almost playing

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Speaker 1: the Heato and Dwight Howard Roles at the same time

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Speaker 1: shout out to the old Magic team. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we've saw a superstar lead the Pelicans in the past.

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: We've saw what happened with Damian Lillard there in Portland,

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01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: kind of having a second star or a second star

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01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: who's not necessarily on his level to take the next step.

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01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: And we're seeing with Dallas now that they're gonna be

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01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: listening to what Luca has to say with regards to him, So, yeah,

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01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: you've got to do everything you can to keep your

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01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: best players around. How about Mike D'Antoni as a Pelicans coach?

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. He's going to be interviewing

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01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: for the Portland Trailblazers job. That's probably a little more

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: appealing since they're further along in the process. But imagine

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01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: what Zion could do in a Mike D'Antoni system.

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Speaker 2: Lee, what do you think of all this?

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Speaker 5: To be perfectly honest, not that surprised because the rumors

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01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 5: were sort of starting to swirl towards the end of

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Speaker 5: the season when it seemed like the Pelicans were going

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01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 5: to miss even the playing Torna. And I think that

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01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 5: was a sort of minimum requirement for stan Van Gundy

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01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 5: this season, To be honest, I don't think he was

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Speaker 5: the right hihre. I know we've talked about that either

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01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 5: at times throughout the season. So interested to see exactly

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 5: where Dave Griffin goes now. He's got a few big

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01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 5: decisions to make this off season. Lonzo balls another one,

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01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 5: and I know I think was Kevin O'Connor was saying

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01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 5: as well. Teresa Witherspoon is also being highly considered or

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 5: strongly considered for that role. So you know, when you

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01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 5: have a franchise star like Zion and there's no question

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 5: about what he can do for a team. He's still

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 5: a young player, of course, but I think we can

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01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 5: all see that he's one of those players who can

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01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 5: really carry a franchise as he continues to grow and mature.

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01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 5: So very important I think for Stan to get this

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01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 5: decision right because it will be Zion's He had Alvin

1534
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 5: Gentry at the start, and now he's had Stan van Gundy,

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01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 5: so he's going to have another coach in his young career.

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01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 5: I think stability is probably the most important part of

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01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 5: Zion's growth because if he can sort of relate and

1538
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 5: a coach can really find what works for him and

1539
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 5: best for the franchise, that's their key to success. Because

1540
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 5: I mean Stan did the right thing by just saying, Okay,

1541
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 5: Zion is a star. We're going to get him as

1542
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 5: much of the action as we can. But now you

1543
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 5: have to continue to grow that and get the players

1544
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 5: around him. So yeah, Dave Griffin's got some work to

1545
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 5: do there, but I think he's better to get rid

1546
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 5: of stand now if he's not the long term choice

1547
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 5: and try to get whoever is that that choice in

1548
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 5: as quickly as possible and get them started working with Zion.

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01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Teresa Weatherspoon and Fred Vinson being reported by Kevin

1550
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 4: O'Connor as New Orleans assistants who could take over. Both

1551
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 4: former players and you know, sort of in that Nate

1552
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 4: McMillan sort of light. You know, maybe they have a

1553
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 4: connection with with Zion and the players. I think that

1554
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 4: the Mike D'Antoni want is interesting. I see him as

1555
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 4: such a connection to Alvin Gentry, you having spent time

1556
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 4: in Phoenix together offensive guys. So I doubt that they

1557
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 4: go with a Mike D'Antoni. For me, I don't see

1558
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 4: that happening. But the assistant's taking over, you know, it's

1559
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: always good to see some new blood in there.

1560
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: We got a lot of coaching job opening suddenly, right

1561
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: It felt like we didn't have a lot, but now

1562
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: there's I mean, help me out. We've got Portland, We've

1563
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: got the Pacers, We've got the Celtics. See, we've got

1564
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: now the Pelicans. The Magic still need a head coach.

1565
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: I think I'm forgetting one or two.

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Speaker 5: One in Milwaukee.

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01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: There could be one in Milwaukee coming up stream.

1568
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: Team kept saying maybe Budtlego and coaches Ion and the Pelicans.

1569
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 3: Maybe anything's possible in this league.

1570
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: I got that was a lot of breaking news for

1571
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: a Wednesday morning in like the span of an hour

1572
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: right before we jumped on. But I prefer this instead

1573
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: of it all happening right after we get done recording

1574
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 2: this podcast, which seems to be the case more times

1575
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: than that.

1576
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 3: Anyway, shut out, Where's the best job?

1577
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: Bell skeets? Where do you think the best job is Portland?

1578
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: You got Damian Lillard, Boston's got a nice nucleus built

1579
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: there with Tatum and Brown, Zion in New Orleans. Yeah,

1580
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: the Pacers have Demontes Sabonis.

1581
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: I think I think the Pelicans. I mean again, I

1582
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: think it depends where you are in your coaching career.

1583
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: But that's like sort of a little bit of low

1584
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: low pressure on you coming in there. Young team already

1585
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 2: a guy that we were just saying could probably be

1586
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: an All NBA player in Zion Williamson and some other

1587
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: young talent you know, and a I would say, a

1588
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: creative GM and David Griffin. I think he has made

1589
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: some mistakes, but he's not you know, you know, not

1590
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: bat in a thousand by any means. But then like

1591
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: that's like, I'm not saying the Pelicans are gonna be

1592
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 2: better than the Blazer or the Celtics or even the

1593
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: Pacers for crying out next year, but like, I don't know,

1594
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: if you're Curby, it's a good like, Oh, I might

1595
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: have this h I guess Fan Gundy just got fired

1596
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: after one year. But it feels like it could be

1597
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: a job where you're like you could grow into that spot. Yeah,

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01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess they're all pretty decent. The

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01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: magic one is the one you're like, I'm gonna be

1600
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: here for the long run.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to build it up. Youre gonna be

1602
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: a young guy.

1603
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 4: That'll be a young young hire for.

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01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy stuff. All right, let's call it there, guys.

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01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 3: Before we know it, we'll be back doing another show.

1606
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: We can't call it there, not quite yet, Skee, because

1607
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: we got a big game tonight, Hawks Sixers, And the

1608
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: question for me is what are we gonna see from

1609
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid Because he was struggling in the second half

1610
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: of Game four against the Hawks. Oh for twelve, But

1611
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: the big thing he did have twenty one rebounds. I

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: owe you guys beat jd roll that beautiful beef footage.

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01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 6: Joel Embiid had twenty one rebounds. That's a lot of

1614
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 6: roast beef. Finally, Joel and no dugs. We love roast beef,

1615
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 6: which is rebounds. Man, he really does hit the.

1616
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: Ground a lot. Was on the floor like crazy. I

1617
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 3: love that box out.

1618
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: Also of the at the end of John Collins where

1619
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: he just runs into him and smashes into the back.

1620
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: No call, got the beef, didn't get the win, and

1621
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: the people were all over me yesterday set Sixers fans

1622
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: were like, I've been waiting for this Joel and bead

1623
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: beef the whole season. The line rights itself and beef.

1624
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: But we had a guest on yesterday. We were making

1625
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: him wait already, so we had to postpone it today.

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01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: So you got your beef Sixers fans.

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's pretty amazing too. Like they did

1628
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: lose the gee he went oh for twelve in the

1629
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: second half, but people just want to see those rebound highlights.

1630
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: Got to see that be really done something special here

1631
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: with these these beef rebound highlights.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad we snuck it in.

1633
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: Okay, anything else anyway, we got anything else we need

1634
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: to show because this should we tap dance a little more.

1635
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: See if there's any more news on a Friday news dumps.

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01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: Come on, here's the beauty of this. Even if we

1637
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 2: stop recording here and something happens, we'll be back on

1638
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 2: the beach in mere hours three pm Eastern live on YouTube.

1639
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: If you want to join us as we read your

1640
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: NBA and non NBA questions, so join us live then

1641
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: we'll turn it around get up in podcast form as

1642
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: soon as possible. Thanks so much to the stream team,

1643
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 2: especially helping out there with some of that breaking news

1644
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: happening during the show.

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01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 3: We'll see you guys later today. Clipper bros. You heard

1646
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 3: it here first. Have a great time, turn up, love

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Speaker 3: you guys awesome.

1648
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember join us on the

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01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 4: beach a few hours from now. In the meantime, grab

1650
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 4: yourself some bf RB's praise today people, you guys.

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Speaker 5: Stay.

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Speaker 7: Mad, Aggie happy every minute. It's been so long that

1653
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 7: you're the fun of playing for It's happened already. It's

1654
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 7: gonna be gravy