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Speaker 1: When they should have challenged him in Texas, where they

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Speaker 3: Quote the rule of law.

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Speaker 1: Bondi continued saying that an activist judge in Washington, DC

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Speaker 1: This was a massive victory for the President, and it's

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Speaker 3: It is a form of law fare.

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Speaker 4: And so I think a lot of these judges are

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Speaker 5: You can't do that.

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Speaker 4: That is like that judge dictating missile strikes or deciding

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Speaker 6: The president is going to comply with the law. He

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Speaker 6: That should be the constitutional crisis right there. Fifty injunctions

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Speaker 6: None of us can keep up with them every single day,

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Speaker 1: Cruz also signed the alarm on these injunctions nationwide, injunctions

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Speaker 7: It's long been said that hypocrisy is the tribute that

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Speaker 7: intimidate and threaten those judges, Professor Bray. Under our constitution,

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Speaker 7: who should decide elections the voters or on elected judges.

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Speaker 8: The voters are the ones who should vote in the

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Speaker 7: And under our constitution, who is charged with making policy decisions?

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Speaker 8: I think the question of policy, Senator, is a little

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Speaker 7: Polacy decisions are the elected branch. Right law is the

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Speaker 7: elected branches. These are not complicated, Professor Bray, Let me

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Speaker 7: Is the phrase nationwide injunction or universal injunction found anywhere

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Speaker 7: First one hundred and fifty years of our republic. How

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Speaker 2: My view is that there were not any until nineteen

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Speaker 7: Now fast forward, how many nationwide injunctions were issued in

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Speaker 7: Let that sink in there have been more nationwide injunctions

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Speaker 1: Senator Cruz is absolutely right, and this is exactly why

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Speaker 12: Why did that romer get going today that that Kevin Hasset,

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Speaker 9: Why did that? That sent the market back up?

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Speaker 13: Because what they're trying to do they're out in globalism

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Speaker 9: To shake President Trump's confidence.

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Speaker 1: a president that says he's not bluffing.

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Speaker 3: Now, even CNN is reporting.

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Speaker 1: About the fact that the US is having these nuclear

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Speaker 1: talks with Iran. Mike Ran appeared on CNN's The Source

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Speaker 1: with Caitlin Collins to discuss the talks, and here's what

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Speaker 14: My source tonight is the former Israeli ambassador to the US,

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Speaker 14: Michael Orrin, Ambassador. Thank you for being with US and

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Speaker 14: President Trump. He wasn't willing to say right that the

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Speaker 14: US would strike Iran's nuclear facilities. That is, of course

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Speaker 14: what Israel has long push for What do you expect

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Speaker 14: the US to do if discussions fail.

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Speaker 5: Well, one thing that President Trump has done, to be honest,

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Speaker 5: he put the military option back on the table a

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Speaker 5: President Biden had taken it off the table. So it's

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Speaker 5: clearly on the table with the audience understand it's on

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Speaker 5: the table. But also, according to the reports tonight, for

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Speaker 5: the first time, as you said, in a decade, direct

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Speaker 5: talks between the United States and Iran, because during the

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Speaker 5: Biden administration the talks were indirect. So that is already

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Speaker 5: a step well from the Iranian perspective, a step forward.

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Speaker 5: Though we should say that the Iranans are kind of

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Speaker 5: denying that the distrect.

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Speaker 14: The Iranian Foreign Minister is saying that these are indirect.

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Speaker 5: High level talks.

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Speaker 14: So that's a different story.

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Speaker 9: What do you make of that.

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Speaker 5: It's a different story. But the essence is that there's talks,

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Speaker 5: and the talks then are going to raise some very

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Speaker 5: serious questions on the Israeli side. My gut feeling tells

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Speaker 5: me that what brought Prime Misi nesan Nowity to Washington

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Speaker 5: on such short notice wasn't just the tiriffs, and the

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Speaker 5: tariffs were serious it's about two and a half billion

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Speaker 5: dollars worth of trade from Israel's side at a time

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Speaker 5: when the Israeli economy is very vulnerable because of the war.

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Speaker 5: But what really brought him here was the Iranian the

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Speaker 5: notion that the understanding that these talks are about to

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Speaker 5: take place apparently on next Saturday. And there are three

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Speaker 5: major questions that Israel's going to be asking how long

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Speaker 5: the talks are going on for? You know, the Iranians

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Speaker 5: are really good negotiators. They'll drag it out at a

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Speaker 5: time when the Russians are rebuilding the ear defenses in

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Speaker 5: Iran that were knocked out by the Israeli Air Force.

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Speaker 5: Big question. Second one is what's the goal of the talks?

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Speaker 5: Is the goal of a talks an agreement similar to

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Speaker 5: the twenty fifteen Obama Iran agreement which basically froze the

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Speaker 5: Iranian program for about a decade, but didn't dismantle the program.

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Speaker 5: And the third question is, as the President says, what

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Speaker 5: if the talks don't work, what is the next step?

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Speaker 5: Will the United States then support is really military action

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Speaker 5: against Iran to stop that program? Will the United States

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Speaker 5: join in that military action? As the President seems to

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Speaker 5: intimate that would be the case. But these are crucial

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Speaker 5: questions that Israelis will look to get answers from from

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Speaker 5: the White House.

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Speaker 14: Why do you think the Trump administration could strike a

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Speaker 14: better deal than the Obama administration.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, because of the credible military threat.

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Speaker 5: Obama had all options on the table, you remember, but

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Speaker 5: I don't think people actually believed it. I think that

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Speaker 5: now with the United States bombing the hoodies the way

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Speaker 5: they have, that's sending a message to Iran, a rather

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Speaker 5: unclitical message that this administration is willing to use four

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Speaker 5: to a degree that previous administrations. I certainly some previous

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Speaker 5: democratic administrations were unwilling to use that type of force.

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Speaker 5: And the Ruddians are aware, how should we say this?

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Speaker 5: This is president is not predictable in that way, and

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Speaker 5: that Iranians like predictability. They don't like dealing with the

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Speaker 5: uncertainty that President Trump could turn around and give that

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Speaker 5: order to those B two and B one and B

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Speaker 5: fifty two bombers to go into Iranian skies.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love how they act like Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump being strong against Iran getting a nuclear weapon in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East is somehow like impredictability from Donald Trump, Like,

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Speaker 1: isn't this exactly what you want a president to do?

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Speaker 1: Because Iran knew that the military option had been taken

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Speaker 1: off the table.

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Speaker 3: You just heard that from the former Israeli ambassador of

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Speaker 3: the US.

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Speaker 1: He said in the last administration, Iran was one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent sure that military use was not going to be

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Speaker 1: done against them. In other words, you can do what

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Speaker 1: you want to do, and yeah, there may be some

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Speaker 1: sanctions against you and some other stuff, but you don't

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Speaker 1: have to worry about actual military action. So that's number

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Speaker 1: one here. That is a I think a really really

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Speaker 1: really important point to make. The second important point that

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Speaker 1: also needs to be made here is this. You have

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Speaker 1: a president now that is saying all options are on

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Speaker 1: the table. If you choose to go in a different

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Speaker 1: direction than what we're telling you you need to do,

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Speaker 1: this is up to Iran if they want to be

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Speaker 1: in that situation, if they want to be in that scenario.

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Speaker 1: And I think that is the point that's clearly being

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Speaker 1: made by this administration is the days of you getting

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Speaker 1: to dictate, they are over, the days of you getting

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Speaker 1: closer to a nuclear weapon, they're over. If you want

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Speaker 1: to play this game of chicken with the United States

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Speaker 1: of America, with the Trump administration, it's a very deadly game.

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Speaker 1: I actually go back to what was said earlier, you know,

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Speaker 1: when the President said we're having these direct talks. That

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Speaker 1: a good thing, right, He's saying, we're talking directly, We

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Speaker 1: are sitting down and we are talking directly. Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is dead serious about this was another way that it

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Speaker 1: was described earlier today on Fox News Channel. They're saying

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Speaker 1: he's not joking and everyone in the Middle East knows it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Absolutely, you can penetrate an iPhone.

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Speaker 16: Let's talk about Iran. The President clearly changing strategy from

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Speaker 16: the Biden administration and even you know, making a very

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Speaker 16: forceful declaration in his letter that you're going to get

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Speaker 16: We're open to talks Iran, but you're gonna have to

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Speaker 16: dismantle your nuclear program and you have two months to

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Speaker 16: agree to the talks. This is a big change in policy.

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Speaker 16: And how do you read it? Is he President really

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Speaker 16: serious about this?

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Speaker 15: I think he's dead serious about this, and no doubt

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Speaker 15: in my mind whatsoever. He's issued an ultimatum and he's

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Speaker 15: very clear about it. He wants voluntarily dismantling the program

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Speaker 15: verified by outside inspectors, and he wants it done by

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Speaker 15: date certain and that is the right approach to this.

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Speaker 15: And then he's told them very clearly that there will

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Speaker 15: be grave consequences if you don't do it. They know

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Speaker 15: what that means. It's likely and it has rarely led

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Speaker 15: US supported air strike to forciully dismantle that program. And

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Speaker 15: that's the path we are on. And I absolutely think

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Speaker 15: that the President coming in, even though it's early in

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Speaker 15: his administration, sending this unequivocal message to Iran, that's your

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Speaker 15: day of being the Malian aggressor in the Middle East

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Speaker 15: and also funding all your proxies to destabilize the Middle East.

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Speaker 15: It's over and Iran is back on its heels, Paul

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Speaker 15: and the way they haven't been in forty four years.

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Speaker 15: The President's team knows it, and they're in pursuit of

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Speaker 15: stopping what Iran has been doing all of these years,

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Speaker 15: and a nuclear enterprise will be a significant blow to them.

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Speaker 1: This is why I love having a commander in chief

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Speaker 1: that just isn't screwing around on national security, on tariffs,

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Speaker 1: on foreign policy.

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Speaker 3: He's just not going to screw around. And you can

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Speaker 3: hear it in.

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Speaker 1: The way that the White House talks about this. We're

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Speaker 1: willing to speak to you directly. We're willing to talk directly,

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Speaker 1: We're willing to negotiate directly. But to be clear, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to allow you to get a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to allow you to continue to send

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Speaker 1: massive amounts of funds to these terrorists organizations, whether they

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Speaker 1: are in Iraq or in Syria or Hamas or hesblat

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Speaker 1: and undermine and kill innocent men, women, children in Israel.

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Speaker 1: I also think it's very important that a lot of

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Speaker 1: this conversation took place side by side with NET and

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Speaker 1: Yahoo in the Oval Office, with the President making it

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Speaker 1: clear we are unified together. He's also said over again

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Speaker 1: he believes that they have the right, Okay, they have

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Speaker 1: the right to defend themselves. In translation, would allow Israel

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Speaker 1: to defend itself and protect itself at all costs, meaning

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Speaker 1: America would support you, we would give you what you need.

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Speaker 1: We would probably be involved in some capacity, maybe even

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Speaker 1: in the attack, to make sure that Iran is kept

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Speaker 1: in check. What's also shocking to me is just how

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Speaker 1: close Iran got and is right now to a nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 1: because the last administration allowed them to get that close

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Speaker 1: because they took the military option off the table. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you take this podcast and share it wherever you can.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep breaking this type of news for

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Speaker 1: you guys, so share it wherever you can, and I

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Speaker 1: will see you back here tomorrow