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Speaker 1: Oh a great time. Oh by Steve Flasper. Good sus time,

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Speaker 1: sus domes for time. Welcome to one of those live

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Speaker 1: here in Western New York's a gorgeous day around Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with today Chris Brown Brownie, thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming in. It's good to see you, man. How's your

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Speaker 1: week gone with without being on the show. We had

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Speaker 1: Maddie in all week and now we get you for

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Speaker 1: the final day. It's good to see you. Yeah, good

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Speaker 1: to be here. Man. It's Friday. Let's rip it up here,

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Speaker 1: let's go right, Yeah, you did our producer. For those

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Speaker 1: of you who don't know, we listen to this, we

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Speaker 1: usually on MSG, but during the pandemic, of course, since

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Speaker 1: social distancing, we're just kind of on remote. I'm at

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Speaker 1: my house. Brownie's at his house. Jay Harris is at

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Speaker 1: his house. Jay always gives me problems because the Skype

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Speaker 1: thing we used to see each other it has this

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Speaker 1: option where it blurs your background. My background is blurred.

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Speaker 1: Your background is blurred, and Jay always complains about it.

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Speaker 1: Can I explain myself? I don't even I don't even

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Speaker 1: know my background was blurred? Did I do that? Well?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't automatically. I think you go to the three

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Speaker 1: it has so it is look blur my background. Can

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Speaker 1: I explain myself and Jay's Jay's background because he's got

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Speaker 1: his kids bouncing around in the background. His house looks

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Speaker 1: like it's been ransacked. But I actually enjoy that video

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Speaker 1: component of the show that only you and I are

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Speaker 1: privy too, because people are climbing up Jay's back, basically

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Speaker 1: using Jay as a jungle gym. They're lift they're lifting

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Speaker 1: up his earphone and yelling in his ear so we

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Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than when that claps your ear after

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Speaker 1: they put it back. But let me explain why I

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Speaker 1: don't like the blurred background. It looks like you guys

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Speaker 1: are in my dreams. It's all blurried, or that I

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Speaker 1: passed out and you're looking over me. Yeah right, you

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Speaker 1: should be, so please, I'm blur your background and that'll

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Speaker 1: be That'll be it for me. That that fact alone

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Speaker 1: will give you some insight as to the unique nature

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Speaker 1: of our producer um of the thecs. The thinks Brownie

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Speaker 1: and I are in his dreams because our black backgrounds blurred.

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Speaker 1: Are well, no, you are in my dreams. I just

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Speaker 1: don't need to be reminded. You are a goner man.

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Speaker 1: You are a complete garner. All right. Yeah, we had

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Speaker 1: we had a good week here, um my daughter's virtual

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Speaker 1: what it looked like? What do you do? I have

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Speaker 1: to say the school did a good job in trying

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Speaker 1: set times for the kids to show up cap and gown.

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Speaker 1: And then they had uh all the headshots of the

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Speaker 1: It was kind of a drive by kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Brownie. So you're think back

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Speaker 1: and I'm so I'm I'm totally with you. I'm totally

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Speaker 1: said to him, I've had the same forty five dollars

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Speaker 1: it's it's true. It's a it's amazing what you find

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Speaker 1: their heads at least now the brutality and the injustices

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Speaker 1: that happened, a lot of them can be recorded, and

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Speaker 1: so that you know, you can't say you know from

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Speaker 1: miles you know, one hundred five hundred miles away saying

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Speaker 1: they come on, there's no way to explain it away.

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Speaker 1: You can't explain it. A parties can't explain it away either.

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Speaker 1: That's right. That's right, and that's why maybe the stark

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Speaker 1: nature and the reality of it will spur change. And

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Speaker 1: I hope that's the case, along with the protests and that.

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Speaker 1: And to bring it back to more of a Bill

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Speaker 1: centric point, if you're a Bills fan listening to this

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Speaker 1: show today, I'm just gonna tell you, having been on

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Speaker 1: all three of those conference calls over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of days, if you are a Bills fan, you should

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Speaker 1: feel so resolutely secure that this team is in the

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Speaker 1: right hands in terms of leadership from a coaching perspective

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Speaker 1: at the top levels, maybe more than the last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: in terms of the people that they have steering the ship,

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Speaker 1: whether it's head coach, offense, defense, and even special teams

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Speaker 1: with coach Farwell, although I know he's kind of newer

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Speaker 1: to the scene, the leadership and the trickle down effects

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Speaker 1: from it really have this team in a very good

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Speaker 1: place that transcends just football, Steve. So if you're a

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Speaker 1: Bills fan, you can be nothing but encouraged by that

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Chris Brown here till three o'clock. This is

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Later on we're gonna have Mike trip Loon.

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Speaker 1: He's the NFL ESPN NFL Nation reporter. He covers the

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. We're gonna have some questions for him.

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Speaker 1: Also coming up after this break, we're gonna do mail bag.

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Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of questions that we're sent in

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Speaker 1: on Twitter to One Bills Live. Brownie now are going

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Speaker 1: to do our best to answer them. This is One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Kalidah Health and this is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Chris Brown here from each of our homes.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back on MSG sooner or later, and

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Speaker 1: you got to get back on the TV side of it,

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Speaker 1: but not for a while this afternoon. Later on two

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour, we're gonna have ESPN NFL Nation reporter who

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Speaker 1: covers the Saints, Mike Triplett. He's going to come on

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Speaker 1: with us. But for right now, we're gonna go back

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Speaker 1: and do something we promised you we do overnight on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and then we we've teased it the last half hour,

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Speaker 1: the Mailbagh. This is uh you can tweet at us.

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Speaker 1: Tweet questions you have for Brownie for me? You can

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Speaker 1: you put them on Twitter. We grab him off there,

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Speaker 1: off our timeline and put them out there for you.

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Speaker 1: So are you ready for this, Brownie? I mean? I

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Speaker 1: love the mailbag you want to know. I love I

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Speaker 1: love seeing what's on the minds of Bills fans, like

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Speaker 1: what they're wondering about. It's exactly what this is your wheelhouse.

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Speaker 1: I think you're really good at this. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me read the question and you can be the the

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Speaker 1: the answer guy. All right, here we go from the

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Speaker 1: mailbag from Josh. He says, what with the changes made

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Speaker 1: to the fifth year option in the new CBA, will

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Speaker 1: it be difficult for the Bills to exercise the option

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Speaker 1: on both Josh Allen and or Tremaine Edmond's next offseason,

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Speaker 1: assuming both deserve it, especially if Edmonds makes another Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl and earns the franchise tag amount. What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts about that and the changes it For those of

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Speaker 1: you who don't know, the change in the CBA used

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Speaker 1: to be that rookie contract, particularly first rounders their fourth

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Speaker 1: their fifth year, is guaranteed only for injury. Now all

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Speaker 1: of it would be a guaranteed when the club is

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Speaker 1: that because when the club picks up the option that

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Speaker 1: it's all guaranteed. As soon as they exercise the option.

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Speaker 1: The fourth and fifth year become total guaranteed. Now under

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Speaker 1: the new CBA. Now, these first round draft choices like

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Speaker 1: Josh and Tremaine, in most cases their full rookie contract

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Speaker 1: is guaranteed already, So adding in the fourth year I

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Speaker 1: don't think does a whole lot for players like Edmonds

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Speaker 1: and Allen. Maybe at the end of the first round,

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Speaker 1: the whole contract isn't guaranteed for you know, the twenty

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Speaker 1: ninth pick or the thirtieth pick. I'll have to check

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Speaker 1: and see on that, but yeah, and it's guaranteed, not

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Speaker 1: just for injury, it's just flat out guaranteed. Get the money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that really impacts what the Bills want

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Speaker 1: to do, presumably long term with Josh and Tremaine. The

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Speaker 1: rub here and I know Steve and I kind of

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Speaker 1: discussed this during the break. The rub here is getting

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Speaker 1: them both done at the same time, I think might

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Speaker 1: prove difficult no matter what the fifty year option rules

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Speaker 1: are in the new CBA, because these are two cornerstones

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Speaker 1: of your team going forward. Fortunately, Edmonds is at a

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Speaker 1: position that isn't as high priced as the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: if you had if you had Josh and let's say

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Speaker 1: Trey White, you have corner and you have a cornerstone

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Speaker 1: cornerback and a cornerstone quarterback that you have to get

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Speaker 1: both done at the same time. That's a tough one

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Speaker 1: because they're both in the high price range category in

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Speaker 1: terms of average annual salary. Because of the positions that

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Speaker 1: they play. Linebacker is a little bit easier to stomach.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean that Edmonds would happen for Josh, Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because maybe you want to get the

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Speaker 1: or maybe you flip it around and say, well, the

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Speaker 1: Edmonds deal should be conceivably easier to complete. Let's get

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Speaker 1: that one done and then we'll get Josh done after.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very interesting to see how Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: not only with those two players from the twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: class Steve, but these guys coming up in the twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen class, Dion Dawkins, Dredevious White, Matt Milano, these are

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Speaker 1: important players on this roster and players that I think

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Speaker 1: they want to resign because we hear Sean McDermott and

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Speaker 1: Brandon being talked all the time about how they want

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Speaker 1: to develop and then resign their own and this is

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Speaker 1: the first wave of that coming here with this twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen class, even before they get to Edmonds and Alan.

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Speaker 1: Really the trick is, Brownie, certainly, we can all pick

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Speaker 1: the guys we want to resign, and maybe our wishes

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Speaker 1: and what our eyes tell us are this same thing

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Speaker 1: as that tells the club. You know, they're gonna resign,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, they're gonna resigned, Tremaine Edmonds, they're gonna resign,

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Speaker 1: Tredavious White, or or whatever combination you want to pick.

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Speaker 1: And the real trick really is is choosing when you're

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Speaker 1: gonna resign, which guy, how much money it's gonna take

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Speaker 1: to get that guy, and then at the other end

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Speaker 1: of this contract, making sure that all these guys don't

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Speaker 1: jettison in the same year, they don't come up for

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Speaker 1: another contract on the same year. Again, it's staggering. That's

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of thought that goes into that.

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Speaker 1: And say, for instance, if you're gonna do Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you do him before Josh Allen by a year.

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Speaker 1: Give him a three year extension, and then wait a

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Speaker 1: year and then give Josh Allen a four year extension.

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Speaker 1: So they're two years apart in the when their contracts elapse.

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Speaker 1: So it's that kind of stair stepping your key players

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Speaker 1: that kind of help you shoulder the financial brunt of

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Speaker 1: whatever cap hit. Those guys give you right and make

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Speaker 1: no mistake, this doesn't impact the Bills maybe as much

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Speaker 1: as other teams like the Cowboys who are trying to

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Speaker 1: get Dak Prescott done. But with this pandemic and the

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Speaker 1: loss of the presumed loss of revenue coming up this fall,

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Speaker 1: the CAP's gonna change. It may hold steady or even

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Speaker 1: go down, which could complicate things for teams with quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in this upcoming off season or whose contracts are coming

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Speaker 1: up like Dak Prescott. You know, people are saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: why is that taken so long down there. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be surprised, but their future budgeting, No one next year's

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Speaker 1: cat could go down. That that's impacting how they have

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Speaker 1: to structure this thing. I think it's made it more complicated.

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Speaker 1: But to answer Josh's question, I don't think it makes

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Speaker 1: it more difficult, but I do think it is going

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Speaker 1: to be difficult in terms of figuring out how to

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Speaker 1: get both of those guys done, knowing their long term

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Speaker 1: cornerstones for this team. Yeah, because you think about it,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's down in Dallas and starting to get a

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Speaker 1: little bit prolonged and a little bit worried for Dallas fans. Right,

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Speaker 1: you've heard the numbers coming out Dak Prescott once north

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Speaker 1: to forty million a year. That's a hard that's a

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Speaker 1: hard financial pill to swallow, even for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of cash for one guy. That is

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Speaker 1: a problem, and it's a problem multiplied by the situation

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Speaker 1: the NFL finds itself in where the cap may shrink

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Speaker 1: next year by five, seven, ten percent, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, your quarterback is taken up twenty five thirty

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Speaker 1: percent of the salary cap. Well, yeah, and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to hear that. Well, fair market value isn't what

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Speaker 1: it used to be because of when we went through

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty with the pandemic. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear that, right, And they won't And maybe that, and

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Speaker 1: maybe a guy like Prescott says, Okay, i'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: you give me thirty five million this year and I'll

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Speaker 1: play a one year deal or that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe his team comes back at him like that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but it's a problem, and it's a financial

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Speaker 1: future that's uncertain and that I think the uncertainty of

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Speaker 1: the future financially and what the NFL is going to

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Speaker 1: go through, what the CAP's gonna go through, and what

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Speaker 1: kind of revenues are gonna look like this year really

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Speaker 1: have the owners. I mean, and I don't know anything

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Speaker 1: about anything about being a billionaire, but I gotta think

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Speaker 1: uncertainty is the one thing that scares those guys, particularly

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about billion dollar businesses. That's something that

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Speaker 1: they can't foresee and can't control. And I think that

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Speaker 1: really bothers them, has given them a second and say

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Speaker 1: wait a minnight. You know what, let's just hold up

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Speaker 1: on all these contracts for a minute. Yeah, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how it all plays out. This

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Speaker 1: this pandemic has a lot of ripple effects that we've

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Speaker 1: yet to see the results of yet. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really there's gonna there's probably some that we haven't even

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Speaker 1: thought about that are going to rear their ugly heads

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Speaker 1: as late as who knows, maybe next year at this time,

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Speaker 1: that we're all gonna have to take them as they come.

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Speaker 1: We're just not the ones signing the checks like the

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Speaker 1: thirty NFL. And so yeah, we got to question. That

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Speaker 1: question is from Josh, and we kind of went on

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Speaker 1: a long winded answer between the two. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think this the new CBA is gonna make it difficult

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Speaker 1: at all for the Bills. If they want Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and Termaine Edmunds to get resigned and exercise that option

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Speaker 1: year in their rookie contract, There's no question the Bills

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Speaker 1: will be able to do it financially. Next question from

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Speaker 1: Douggie from the from the mail Bag. Are the Bills

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Speaker 1: comfortable with Yelden as their veteran running back or do

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Speaker 1: you see them signing another guy. I understand we've got

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss, but with the shortened offseason, I can see

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Speaker 1: him taking a little more time to get comfortable. That

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Speaker 1: means Zack Moss taking it time to get acclimated. It

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Speaker 1: did take the Bills a while to give Motor Devin

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Speaker 1: Singletary more Carry's last season, so it took him a

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Speaker 1: while to get Devin. So one of the things that

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Speaker 1: took him a while to get Devin Singletary acclimated is

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Speaker 1: the fact he missed four games with his hamstring in

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Speaker 1: the first half of the season. That prolonged that about.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think the Bills have a problem with Yelden.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Every time I talk about this

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Speaker 1: and Brownie, I'll get your take on it too. Here's

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Speaker 1: the way I see the mindset of Sean McDermott and

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Speaker 1: Brandon being going. They may like t J. Yelden, they

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00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: may like Devin Singletary, they may like any of these

642
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: guys you name it, and it just goes for any position.

643
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: But if there's a guy out there they think's better

644
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: and they can sign him, and they got the money

645
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: to sign him, they can get him. They're getting him.

646
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: They're getting him. They are not gonna they're not gonna hesitate.

647
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: And they may love t J. Yelden a ton, but

648
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: if they can get a guy better, who who looks better,

649
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: plays better, and is better, that's it. Decisions made. It's

650
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: that guy over t J. Yelden. So I don't doubt

651
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: that they like t J Yelden. He's on the team

652
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: for a reason, but I don't think that means they're

653
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: out of the market at all. Yes, and and this

654
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: isn't any disrespect towards t J Yelden. I think is

655
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: a capable NFL back, but I think I I think

656
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: they see him as an insurance policy right now, maybe

657
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: more than ever because of the very subject that Dougie

658
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: brought up, which is shortened offseason, fewer reps on the field.

659
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: We were talking Brian Table this morning and he estimates

660
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: that they have lost eight to nine thousand on field

661
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: reps through the course of the spring in this pandemic

662
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: where they have not been on the field, and that

663
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: helps cement and retain the classroom learning for a lot

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Speaker 1: of players. Now, here's the thing with Moss, just because

665
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: I've done some work on him and I just had

666
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: a story on him last weekend and the title of

667
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: it was why Zach Moss is likely to have success

668
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: right away in this league. And the main reason is this.

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00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: I talked to his running backs coach at Utah and

670
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: he got there going into Zach's off more year, so

671
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: he had already had a year in college, and he said,

672
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: the first time I sat down with Zach, I asked

673
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: him what do you want? What do you need out

674
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: of this college experience? He said, I need to be

675
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: the best running back that's ever been at Utah. And

676
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: he said, well, that's going to take a lot of doing,

677
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: not only on the field, but in the film room.

678
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: He said, I'm already there. So he said it was

679
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: important to Zach to know protections, to know the whole

680
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: concept of a play. He made sure he knew what

681
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: everyone was doing and how his role fit into all

682
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: of that for the full picture, and he said that

683
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: he made sure to take Zach made sure to take

684
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: pride in every aspect of a running back's job. But

685
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: as far as the cerebral side of the game, he

686
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: said he had that nailed down easily by his sophomore season,

687
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: and so he feels that with the style of offense

688
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: they played at Utah that he will be able to

689
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: transition quickly, not only because of his physical abilities, but

690
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: because of his mental commitment to the x's and o's.

691
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see. We'll have to see, because

692
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: I think the time on the field is obviously still important.

693
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: But I think if I think Zach Moss is more

694
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: equipped too, you know, adapt quicker to the NFL game

695
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: than most rookies because of what his commitment level is

696
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: and his background was at Utah. Yeah, and that'll that'll

697
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: dictate his ability to baclamate, will dictate how much the

698
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: Bills feel a need to bring in a veteran running back.

699
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown here till three o'clock. Mike Triplett

700
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: of ESPN NFL Nation Reporter, he covers the Saints. He's

701
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: coming on at two o'clock. Got a lot more news

702
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: and notes. Steve Tasker Chris Brown on One Bill's Live,

703
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

704
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: Welcome back at one of those Lives. Team Tasker Chris Brown.

705
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: We're taking questions from the mail bag right now. We're

706
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna do that, and then we're also going to get

707
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: into something an update about when the National Football League

708
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: may have some people actually in their buildings for a

709
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: change other than just staffers and maintenance people and security people.

710
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: And well there's a there's like a bunch of people

711
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: in there, but none of them have anything to do

712
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: really with football, So we're going to talk about that

713
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: after we finished the mail bag. We also have this

714
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: Brownie question came in and this we were talking about

715
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: t J. Yelden and whether the coaching staff liked him

716
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: or what they thought, or maybe he was a reason

717
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: they didn't have to bring in a veteran running back.

718
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: They also have Christian Wade. Adam asked what does Christian

719
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: Wade need to do to make the roster and it's

720
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: actually it's a pretty good question. I think it's pass

721
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: protection for him that was the biggest stumbling block for

722
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: him last year. I think a lot of the angles

723
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: for him in a running back setting in American football

724
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: are not all that different from the angles as a

725
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: ball carrier for him in rugby, So I think that

726
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: part came very naturally to him. But as far as

727
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: the pass protection responsibilities, you know, in reading the defense

728
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: to know where his responsibilities were, especially he had to

729
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: check from one guy to the other guy in a

730
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: protection situation, that's when he would get crossed up. So

731
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: hopefully he's put a lot of work in in that

732
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: aspect of the game. Of course, without on field reps

733
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: though I don't know how you replicate that in the

734
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: current situation we're all in right now, so that's certainly

735
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: not helping his cause. And I still think it's going

736
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: to be an uphill climb for him, because I mean,

737
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: we have to remember, this guy never played this game

738
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: until last year about it, and then he had to,

739
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: and then he had to do it at the highest

740
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: level in which it exists. Think about how what it

741
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: takes to practice pass pro Brownie. It takes twenty two guys, right,

742
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: and you got to have him, and you got the

743
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: other guys on the other side to help you at all.

744
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: Eleven guys on defense have got to play a defense

745
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: and have a different guy rush and run through different scenarios.

746
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: They got to give different looks. It takes. It's hugely complicated,

747
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: and it's hard to practice because it takes so much time.

748
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: You certainly you can do it on film, but some

749
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: guys don't learn that way, you know, and it doesn't

750
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: really cement it in, you know. And if you want

751
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: to run through it and practice it like everybody loves

752
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: to do, you gotta have twenty two guys and they

753
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: got to do exactly what they're supposed to do to

754
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: get it right. And it's just you get very few

755
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: quality rips, very quality rips. I mean he's a great guy.

756
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I think he is talented, but I just think from

757
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: an experienced standpoint, when you just get dropped into the

758
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: deep end of the pool, it's like, hey, I know

759
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: you played professional rugby for ten years. How about you

760
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: try this thing called American football and let's do it

761
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. Best to luck to you. I mean,

762
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: what he has chosen to undertake is admirable, but man,

763
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: it's it's a steep climb. There's another question on our

764
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: on our mail bag and it says for it's for

765
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: me from Maddy's. He asked me, who are the fastest

766
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: players I played with? Oh, I'd be interested to hear this.

767
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, Beebs was fast. Don Baby was fast. Uh,

768
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: James Williams was fast. Jd was fast. Um on other teams,

769
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: there was some guys I played with Dion, Sam played

770
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: with him against Dion. I don't know if anybody could

771
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: touch Don. To be honest with you, now, I didn't.

772
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: I was in the league at the same time Bo

773
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: Jackson was, but he I missed my I missed my

774
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: opportunity to play against him. Because that's the exact same week,

775
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: the week he was gonna play US. The week before

776
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: is the week he got hurt his injury hip in Cincinnati.

777
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: The next week was the championship game, where if Bo

778
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: Jackson's on the field, I don't know if we beat

779
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: him fifty one to three. We I think we beat him,

780
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: but I don't know because he didn't play defense. But

781
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if we beat him fifty one to three,

782
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking so. So there's a there's a couple of

783
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: names on my team. JD. Williams and Beabs were really

784
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: fast on him as opponents. I watching Deon Sanders on

785
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: film and then also watching him live and in person

786
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: and chasing that that guy down. Yeah, he was. He

787
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: was a special athlete. Why why am I not closing

788
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: on him? Right? I'll tell you this, though I tackled him.

789
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: I tackled him. I think like three times in my career.

790
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: I tackled him three times unassisted, and two of the

791
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: three times I couldn't get up because I was just

792
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: I got him by the heels right and I tripped

793
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: him up from behind, and both times his heel hit

794
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: me in the solar plexus and I was incapacitated for

795
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: like thirty second. I was laying there and I was

796
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: asking for somebody to put me out of my misery,

797
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: right I was, you know, it was just please just

798
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: take me now, lord, it hurts so bad. Twice at

799
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: the three times I've tackled and did that, and then

800
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: one time in Buffalo, I caught him by his foot

801
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: when he tried to jump over me. I got him,

802
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, he was You know, there's I'll

803
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: tell you I say this all the time, but you know,

804
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: the thing that impresses me about NFL players that I

805
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: didn't play against are when the guys that did play

806
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: against him, Like I used to talk to Charlie Joyner,

807
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: you talk to old guys, Kenny Houston, you talk to

808
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: guys like just the old guys, right, old guys who

809
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: became coaches. And when they lowered their voice and they

810
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: start talking about guy like, man, you should have seen

811
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: Gail Sayers. Unbelievable, man, he was like that, and they

812
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: go on and on. You know, listen, you have seen

813
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Johnny Unitus was doing stuff I couldn't believe you're doing that.

814
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: You know, So they talk when their voice goes down

815
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: and they start whispering about guys like I heard him

816
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: talk about that, like with Eric Dickerson, was unbelievable. You know,

817
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: they start whispering. It's hard to impress guys who are

818
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: NFL players, but they when they start talking about guys

819
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: like that. They did that with Dion, they did that

820
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: with both Jackson, they did it with Eric Dickerson. Guys

821
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: like that that I played in. That's Dion is one

822
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: of the guys where I start, I go, Manny, he

823
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: would Brownie. He was fast, bro, he was really fast. Yeah,

824
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: it was. So there are guys like that out there,

825
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: but they're few and far between. You know, they're not there.

826
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: It's a league full of fast guys, you know. So

827
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, it takes somebody pretty impressive to be above

828
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: guys that are above right, So they're few. It's a

829
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: few of them, but there's a that's a handful of

830
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: the guys I can think of. That's a pretty good

831
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: list though. Yeah, what about that last one from Anthony? Yeah,

832
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: do you think that Brian Dable will be calling plays

833
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: from the booth again this season? I wouldn't be surprised.

834
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: I actually expected. And the reason why is you have

835
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: more comfort with Josh Allen as your quarterback, perhaps going

836
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: into this year than each of the previous two. And

837
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: I think there's been enough of a rapport established between

838
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey and Brian Dave where Dave's trusts Dorsey down

839
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: on the sideline to communicate what needs to be communicated.

840
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I think when that relationship was fresh, knowing they had

841
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: never coached together before, there was more of a impetus

842
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: on Dave's part to go downstairs for a little bit.

843
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: But then you know, by what was it? It was

844
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: pretty early in the season last year he went upstairs,

845
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: and after that it worked fine, and so I fully

846
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: expect him to be up there. It's clear to me

847
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: he he likes that vantage point better from a play

848
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: calling perspective. Right, Well, that's what those guys do. They

849
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: sit in the room and they watched the game from

850
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: that film angle that all twenty two sideline and endzone

851
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: and I think two, you're right. And we had that

852
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: SoundBite from day Ball earlier in the show. It's about

853
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: relationships and you know, Ken Dorsey comes in, Okay, who

854
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: let's get to know each other. And it took a

855
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: little while for him to say, all right, what's what

856
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: here's what I want on the sidelines. And then Ken

857
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: Dorsey started giving him what he wanted, and day Ball

858
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: trusted him and they had a way of communicating and

859
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: they knew what each other was talking about. And Josh

860
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: had to reach a certain point as well, along with

861
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: Barkley and the other quarter. You know, everybody in that

862
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: room and in that little circle there had to be

863
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: on up to pace and on up on point. And

864
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: I think that's what made Dave. I'll say, Okay, they

865
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: don't need me on I don't need to be on

866
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: the sidelines now, you know, so, um, it's better for

867
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: me upstairs, but they need to be on the sidelines

868
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: for a while. I think you were right on point

869
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: with that. I think it had more to do with

870
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: the relationships than anything, right, Oh yeah, no question. So

871
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: you know it's a matter of trust, and I think

872
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: the trust is there now. Yeah. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown,

873
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: we're here till three. We're gonna take a break NFL.

874
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: In an ESPN NFL Nation reporter covers the Saints and

875
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: Mike Triplet's gonna come on at two o'clock. We've got

876
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: Tasker's teammate coming up. After the break, that's right, Steve

877
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Tasker Chris Brown on One Bill's Live and this is

878
00:48:43,560 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Stas that time welcome back of one

879
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: of Bill's lives. Keep Tasker Law and Chris Brown. I

880
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: just got that PB and J swallowed just before we

881
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: came back on the airs, Dynamite. I made an ate

882
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: two peanut butter and jelly sandwiches during that break, Brownie.

883
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: That's impressive my new personal record. I witnessed it. I

884
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: was subject to the video component of that, and I mean,

885
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: you just horked that thing down. Man. It was I

886
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, there's a second one. I

887
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: grew up with three older brothers and if you didn't

888
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: eat your food fast, you lost it right. So you know,

889
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: there weren't any seconds. So there you go. You had

890
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: to get it down while you could. Anyway. Glad you're

891
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: here today, Brownie, you've got this new the thing we

892
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: did it last week. I guessed it and I was

893
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: pretty happy with it. It's Tasker's teammate, take it away. Yeah,

894
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: So addition too, of Tasker's teammate. This is an exercise

895
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: where we give Steve rather cryptic clues so as not

896
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: to give it away and see if he can guess

897
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: which of his former teammates over the course of his

898
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: thirteen year career that he played with is probably hundreds,

899
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: maybe even thousands if you think about kind of pushing it,

900
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: but maybe close to a thousand because they only there

901
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: was at least ten new guys like on the team

902
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: through the Super Bowl years, and those are the ones

903
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: that didn't change much, right Foster's turnover as much and

904
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: then training camp. Yeah, there might be. It's gotta be

905
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: close to a thousand, I would think over many event um.

906
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: So so here is this week's edition. We'll see how

907
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: long it takes for Steve to guess this week's Tasker's teammate.

908
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: Al Right, so clue number one, Steve. I was born

909
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: and raised in New Orleans, and I am two years

910
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: younger than my former teammate Steve Tasker. So not a

911
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: lot there, but still something to h to chew on

912
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: and maybe file away. I'm just trying to guess at

913
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: what that could mean. Born and raised in New Orleans.

914
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily mean he went to to uh, you know,

915
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: LSU or anything like that, but born and raised in

916
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I'm Kenny Davis. No, if it's not Kenny Davis. Okay,

917
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: if I'd have got it right then yeah, I wouldna

918
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: walk off home run. Yeah. So Clue number two Steve

919
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: I played my college football in the Swack Conference and

920
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: helped my team win a Black college national title in

921
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: the mid eighties. Keith mckeller. It is not Keith mckeller.

922
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: That's not a bad guess, though, that's a pretty good guess.

923
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: Clue number three Steve I was a former fourth round

924
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: draft pick in nineteen eighty seven and only played for

925
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: two NFL teams, one of which obviously was the Bills. Okay,

926
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: eighty seven fourth round draft pick one? Wow, oh, I'm thinking,

927
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: oh no, that's not him. Let's see fourth round draft

928
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: pick in eighty seven, not for probably not for the Bills.

929
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, alright, alright, so we'll move on to

930
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: clue number four. I got the last one in five clues.

931
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: So that's right, we're getting down to it here. We

932
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: have eight. Do you have eight clues today or nine? Yeah?

933
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm running out. Okay. I was a teammate

934
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: of Steves for five seasons. Oh wow, But I did

935
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: not become a full time starter until my fourth season

936
00:52:53,200 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: with Buffalo. Wow, I'm gonna say Marcus Patton. It is

937
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: not Marvcus Patton. Now this is kind of now, I

938
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: gave you a jersey number clue last week that kind

939
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: of gave away the farm, right, So I tried to

940
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: be a little bit more tricky with this jersey number. Right.

941
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Clue number five, my jersey number with the Bills shared

942
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: one of the same numbers that was on Steve's jersey,

943
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: Gabe Northern. It is not Gabe Northern. Oh wait, let

944
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: me get another guest before he did another one. Mm,

945
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: we're trying to find Tasker's teammate addition to Marlo Perry.

946
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: It is not Marlow Perry. So clue number six. During

947
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: one offseason in Buffalo, I spent time as a volunteer

948
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: deputy with the Erie County Sheriff's Department to expand on

949
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: my college major, which was criminal justice. I served on

950
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's narcotics education team. All right. I was gonna

951
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: say Howard Ballard, but that he doesn't share one of

952
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: my numbers, so it's not him. It's got to be Gosh,

953
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: that's a good Wheels aternitive. I should know this, and

954
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: I cannot think of it. Oh, it's not Kenny Davis,

955
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: Nate Turner. It's not Nate Turner. Wow, we're gonna go

956
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: to s number seven. That was a shot in the dark.

957
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't. I had a nickname given to

958
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: me by my college teammates, but it didn't exactly fit

959
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: what my skill set became when I played in the NFL.

960
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: Trying to find Tasker's teammate. Addition to we are on

961
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: clue seven, we tell me the team, You're gonna tell

962
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: me the nickname. Huh, well, that's a dead giveaway. If

963
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: I give you a kick. It's not Kenny Davis, the

964
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: Texas Twister. It's not the House. I'm the Keller. This

965
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: is a shame that this is not on on MSG

966
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: right now, because watching Steve's wheels turn in his head

967
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: is just it's entertaining. I'm just started listening. Audience can

968
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: see who's it, Who's wasn't Who's the running back we

969
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: got from Green Bay. It's not a running back. Okay, okay,

970
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: all right, So here I'll go to clue eighty. After

971
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: I retired from football, I served as a county sheriff

972
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: down South where I live now Leon seals bang, you

973
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: got it, and we have Leon on the phone right now. Yeah,

974
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: see Lee, doctor sacking on. Thank you. I apologize from

975
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: not being able to guess you after the first couple

976
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: of clues. Man, Oh that's all right. Then. How are you?

977
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: How are you doing it? Man? I'm doing good. Are

978
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: you doing okay? Are you doing the pandemic treating? Okay? Yeah,

979
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: everything is good man. If I'm just staying safe and

980
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: being careful, that's about it. Glad. Man, that's so good

981
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: to hear from you. And I'm and I'm glad. I

982
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: guess I'm glad. I got you right man. That's awesome.

983
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Where are you are you? Are you in

984
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Jackson now or where are you at? I'm right outside

985
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: of Jackson. I'm about maybe thirty minutes outside of Jackson

986
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: and face called Clinton, Mississippi. That's awesome, man, I'm I'm

987
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: so glad you're doing well. It's great, great hearing from you.

988
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: And then thanks for taking a minute to come on

989
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: with us and bust my chops if I couldn't remember, Yeah,

990
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: well we were waiting for it to see if you

991
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: get a chance to do that. So for our listening, audience, Steve,

992
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: did you know we had Leon queued up and ready

993
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: to go here. So I am kind of thankful that

994
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: Steve didn't guess him, because that might have been a

995
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: little awkward if he didn't. Um. But Leon, you know,

996
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: I was so obviously Leon, I was doing a lot

997
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: of research to come up with these clues for Steve

998
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: that didn't give away the farm. I found it interesting.

999
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: One of the stories I uncovered when you were doing

1000
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: that work with the Erie County Sheriff's Department, there was

1001
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: a story where, you know, being on the narcotics education team,

1002
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: you said there was an instance after giving a talk

1003
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: at one of the schools up here in Buffalo, that

1004
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: a kid, you know, about the dangers of drugs and

1005
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: all of that, that a kid actually came up to

1006
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: you after it and hand did you drugs, saying he

1007
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: didn't want them anymore. Did you remember that story? Yeah?

1008
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: I remember those days. I was just throwing up with

1009
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: your kind of Sheriff's apartment and your father of agreements

1010
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: were after they did the race or after they did

1011
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: whatever had to do. I could always talk to the

1012
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: kids afterwards, and it was a hell of a program.

1013
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: Might end up eating a lot of different kids and

1014
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: and some of them talked to me and we got

1015
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: very personal. It's awesome to hear and it, you know,

1016
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: it just goes to these guys and they do it here. Um, Leon,

1017
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: a lot like you did. You go out and he

1018
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: got involved in the community. He's tried to do some

1019
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: good in the in the community around it that you

1020
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: actually played in. He went back. You are you still

1021
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: a police officer now? I am no elected official. I

1022
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: am a Hines County Consortable. I'm elected. Um, I was

1023
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: elected five years ago when I'm in my second term

1024
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: down as the Hines County Comsortable. Second term that is

1025
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: that is awesome. That is awesome. I'm so happy for

1026
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you too. Man. It's so glad to

1027
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: be glad to hear you're doing well, glad to see

1028
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: you're making a difference still after all these years of

1029
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: doing the stuff here in your ac county. That's awesome.

1030
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: So that's awesome. It's got and Leon, I gotta imagine

1031
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: it's it's got to be especially interesting time for you

1032
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: right now, having been on both sides of a lot

1033
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: of these issues that are you know, dominating the headlines.

1034
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: Having been in law enforcement yourself, you know, and and

1035
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, being African American, I have to believe that

1036
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: this is something that you might have a very unique

1037
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: perspective on having been on both sides of it. Am

1038
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: I right about that? Well? I get right? And I was.

1039
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: I was telling my wife and you know, we were

1040
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: talking about the events that are going on now and

1041
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: and me being in law enforcement, and and it is

1042
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: because of my time Stamp in Buffalo and other places

1043
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: and the teammates that I've been around that helped me

1044
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: do the job I'm doing now. Those guys were my teammates,

1045
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: thick and thin, and I've learned a lot. We had

1046
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: a multi cultured team, people from all walks of life,

1047
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: different parts of the country, and being around that has

1048
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: done nothing but it's helping yourself into the law enforcement

1049
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: room I'm in now. Well, Leon, it's so great to

1050
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: talk to you. I'm so glad you took some time

1051
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: to come come on with us. It's awesome. I'm glad

1052
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: Brownie chose you. It's uh And I'm really glad I

1053
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: was able to guess you before I ran out of clues.

1054
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know you won a national championship. Yeah,

1055
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: um in college, yo, yeah, the Black Black college national

1056
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: title in nineteen eighty five for Jackson State. Oh yeah,

1057
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: back in college. That's awesome. Congratulate. I'm getting so old.

1058
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: People have to tell me that idea, because half of

1059
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Speaker 1: the stuff I have forgotten about. But the clues were wonderful,

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: the clues I was shot. That's who he was talking

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: about as he's talking about me. So okay, yeah, so clues.

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01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: I think about what we were talking about. I know

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01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: what you mean. I know you've gone out and spoke

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01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: publicly at a number of places. Now as a politician,

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01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: electric official, you've got to speak in public all the time.

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01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: And I always I used to marvel too the older

1067
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: I got, and people would introduce me at banquets and stuff.

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01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: My bio got longer and longer and longer. The older

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01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: I got. Some of it I forgot about. Oh yeah,

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: well yeah, definitely what your family says, Hey, I didn't

1071
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: know that about you, and these that have been around

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01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: you from pay one, and you have to tell them

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01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: I just forgot, yeah, exactly exactly. Well, that's that's awesome,

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01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: Leon Loock. We appreciate you joining us for a few

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: minutes and U kind of playing an important part of

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01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: this segment that we call taskers teammate. Now, we're glad

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01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: Steve is now two for two in this category, as

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01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: we'll press on and do more in the future. But

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on with us and giving some

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01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: time and best of luckdown there, you know, and kind

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: of pushing forward the agenda that I think everybody wants

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: us to achieve in this country going forward, especially in

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01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: the unique position in which you find yourself down there.

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01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: So keep doing good work down there in Mississippi. Thanks on, hey,

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: thank you, and I really appreciated guys, And be careful,

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01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: take care man, Leon Seals doctor sack man. How about that?

1087
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: How about that? Steve? See, we've got a game on that.

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01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: We added a little twist to it. This week. We

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01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: had the guy on the horn and he was ready

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01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: to go and yeah, doctor sack because he had twenty

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: two sacks in his last two college seasons at Jackson State.

1092
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: So that's why his teammates called him doctor sack. You

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01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: knowing his entire NFL career, he only had fourteen and

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01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: a half in his what was it, his six year

1095
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: NFL career. I believe so. One of the other guys

1096
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: that was across the line from it had two hundred.

1097
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: So he But I'll tell you this, people, here's the

1098
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: guy and all and people who here in Buffalo Bills fans.

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01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: You remember this Super Bowl twenty five. You've all seen

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01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: the highlights, You've all seen the you know, the the

1101
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: wide right and all that and the plays in this

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01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: Leon is the guy who sacked Hostetler and looked like

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01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: he killed him. He jumps up, hits him right in

1104
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: the face, jumps right into his face, and then you

1105
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: can see as they're going down, he like grabs him

1106
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: and almost winds up and with his head and you know,

1107
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: with his body in his arm, winds his arm up

1108
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: and throws him into the ground even harder. Um. Yeah,

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01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's unbelievable. It's on that that sack. Is

1110
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: that picture that sack is on Twitter. You can go

1111
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: to it at one Bill's Live. You can see a

1112
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: picture of that sack. It was a vicious sack. Vicious

1113
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: and I think Hoss I think might have had to

1114
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: come off the field for a second and then get

1115
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: did that Is that right? I think Hosteller that one

1116
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: he was man. Oh man, sack got him, and I

1117
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: mean got him good. I don't even know if he

1118
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: had the ball in his hand or what, but he

1119
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: might have just thrown it. But man, it was one

1120
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: of the all time vicious sacks. It was buried him,

1121
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: all buried him, and I mean his head was all been.

1122
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: It was. It was ugly, but that was that was

1123
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: Leon's sack right there. That was a good one. But

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01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: I guess I guess Wills will remember, yeah, just from

1125
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: reading up on him. Yeah, and he was the starter

1126
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: at the other defense events about the first two Super

1127
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: Bowl teams, and I just in reading up on him

1128
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: to try to come up with these clues for you,

1129
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: I was I was surprised to learn that. You know,

1130
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking at quotes from Ted Catrelle and he's talking

1131
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: about how Leon got really good against the run as

1132
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: an edge setter. And I think back then, you guys

1133
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: were playing a four man front. So um, it was

1134
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: just interesting to see all the things that he did

1135
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: as he kind of matured into an NFL player, because,

1136
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: as I mentioned in there one of the clues, he

1137
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: didn't become a full time starter until his fourth season,

1138
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: right because you guys, you guys had. I'm trying to

1139
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: remember Sean McNay. I want to say, was John Nanny

1140
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: was there when he first got in front of him.

1141
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: We did, We drafted sack right, and then where'd he

1142
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: go after Buffalo? Where'd he go? He went to Philly,

1143
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: played for one year in ninety two and then just

1144
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: said I'm done. Okay. Yeah, So yeah, he was here

1145
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: eighty seven to ninety one and then ninety two in

1146
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: Philly and then that was it. So last time my

1147
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 1: son was years and years ago. M ken Hole had

1148
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: his golf turn charity golf tournament down in Jackson, Mississippi,

1149
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: and he's right around the corner. Yeah, and Leon was

1150
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: there and we hung out, you know. So it's good

1151
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: to see him. He's doing that's great. What a great guy. Yeah,

1152
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: And and I can't imagine, you know, That's why I

1153
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, being being in law enforcement for

1154
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: as long as he was, and you know, playing in

1155
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: this league, and no doubt the things that he was

1156
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: exposed to, especially down in the Deep South. I I wonder,

1157
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: I openly wonder what people like him are thinking about

1158
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: nowadays seeing what we're seeing. So yeah, and yeah, particularly atmosphere,

1159
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: that's prevalent around the country, and the and the eyes

1160
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: that have been opened towards the hard job it is

1161
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: to be a cop, you know, and the fact that

1162
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: you got guys that don't do it very well, uh,

1163
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: milling around in the same the same protest line that

1164
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: the guys that are actually doing it great. You know,

1165
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's crazy, you know. And

1166
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: and he's been on both sides of it. It's gotta

1167
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: be a difficult line to walk. Yeah, So yeah, we

1168
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: just kind of saw him as a good fit for

1169
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: this week. So we'll do another one next week. But yeah,

1170
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: that's that's Tasker's teammate next week. Yeah that when you hit,

1171
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: you hit that one out of the party. That was

1172
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: a really good one, and I appreciate that. We've got

1173
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 1: we've got State of the Bills coming up. We're gonna

1174
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: talk about the defensive backs with the corners and the

1175
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 1: safeties as well. We've got Mike Triplett of ESPN NFL Nation,

1176
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: he covers with the Saints. We're going to talk to

1177
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: him as well. We've got NFL True False as well.

1178
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: Later on in this show. This is Steve Tasker. Chris

1179
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: Brown here, till three o'clock. This is presented by Kalid

1180
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: to Health. This is One Bills Live and this is

1181
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker,

1182
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: Chris Brown just had Leon Seals on the show. He

1183
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: was the answer to today's questions and clues that regarding

1184
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: Tasker's teammate, Chris Brown hitting me a bunch of clues,

1185
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: eight of them to be exact. On the last one,

1186
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: I guessed him and Leon was actually on the phone

1187
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: and for me, if if I mess that up, he's great.

1188
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: It was great. That was great. It really was, Steve Jazz.

1189
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: We're here till three o'clock and we've been talking about

1190
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: everything that's going on also not only with what's going

1191
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: on in the streets and stuff, but also with the

1192
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and also with the NFL. Brannan, we didn't

1193
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: touch on this. They're letting coaches back in the building today.

1194
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: The NFL or is allowing and if if your state,

1195
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: I get, if your state's open up enough to let

1196
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: your guys in and let staff members in socially distanced,

1197
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: the NFL coaches are free to do that. So I

1198
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: imagine Sean McDermott, Leslie Frasier, Brian Dabele are all in

1199
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: back in the building along with the rest of the staff. Yeah,

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01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: it's funny because we asked coach Frasier that, because that's

1201
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: when it came down the first reports of June fifth

1202
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: being the day where the league would allow coaches to

1203
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: return to their team facilities to start working in house again,

1204
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: provided state restrictions were in the reopening plans allowed it.

1205
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: And it was clear to me that that directive had

1206
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: not been laid out yet the way Coach Fraser answered it,

1207
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: So I'm sure things could have changed between yesterday and

1208
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: this morning. That stipulated, Hey, yeah we are going into work.

1209
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: Let's all meet at such and such a time. But

1210
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: it's a small step. So if the bills can't do

1211
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: it this Friday, hopefully in the coming days, the coaches

1212
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: told kind of get back in the building and collaborate

1213
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, just being down the

1214
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: hall from one another rather than on zoom and the like. Oh,

1215
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can hear Steve gotta unmute there.

1216
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: Two times this show we were talking about yesterday about

1217
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: who what, who's the first coach going to be back in.

1218
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Sean McDermott, Who's it gonna be? And

1219
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: I said, listen, if it's a coaching staff of the

1220
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: NFL team, they're all out there standing in line waiting

1221
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 1: to get in at twelve o'clock noon when they're when

1222
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: the doors open. So no question that they're all ready

1223
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: to come back. They how much great even though nobody

1224
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: else is working and they're doing this all remotely and

1225
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: they're getting whatever they can get done. They gotta feel

1226
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: like they've got to feel in their gut they're like

1227
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: fallen behind, right. You got to get that sinking feeling

1228
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: like that you're not doing everything. We're really I really

1229
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: need to get in the office. I really need to

1230
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 1: do this work. And you know, I think they're probably

1231
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: standing there waiting for the chance to get back into

1232
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: their offices. Yeah. And this morning when we talked on

1233
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: the zoom call to Brian table the OC, he had

1234
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: some interesting comments regarding the way in which the staff

1235
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: is going to have to adjust the structure of practice

1236
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: and prioritize different elements of their sessions to make up

1237
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: for the lost time. I remember coach McDermott saying all

1238
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: the way back in an April Zoom call that the

1239
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: biggest concern they had in terms of on field reps

1240
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: that they're most worried about making up for is the

1241
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: timing in the passing game. And Steve you can speak

1242
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: to that a little bit more, but they believe all

1243
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: the elements that go into that. The lost time on

1244
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: the field may impact that more than anything else. And

1245
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about getting back on the field. You to

1246
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: look at the roster see who they've got to work with.

1247
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: We've been going down the list this week of State

1248
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: of the Bills, and we've been picking a position group

1249
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: and today let's you and I talk about the corners

1250
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: and safeties. The defensive backfield, to me, is the engine

1251
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: of the defense that has been I think it's hard

1252
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: to appreciate an entire secondary because of you know, because

1253
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: of their stats are hard to they're hard to quantify

1254
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: unless you're looking at you know, big time interceptions, pick

1255
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 1: sixes and stuff. Those are hard to get. But on

1256
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: a date, on a week to week basis, when you

1257
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: got a defense like the Buffalo Bills, it's really hard

1258
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: to move the football on, hard to throw on, hard

1259
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: to run on. I think lately people have started to

1260
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: come around to the fact that how how important the

1261
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: secondary is, and I think it's really keyed by the

1262
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: play of the samefties, Mica Hyde and Jordan Poy for

1263
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, and I heard, you know, you

1264
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 1: guys had Brian Baldinger on I think it was yesterday

1265
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: the day before, and I thought the one comment he

1266
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: made about Poyer and Hyde was bang on, and that

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Speaker 1: was that while those guys are good players in their

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Speaker 1: own right, those two as a tandem are pretty tough

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Speaker 1: to beat in the NFL. It's almost like those two

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Speaker 1: guys collectively playing off one another raises each of their

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: respective games. It's kind of like the some being greater

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Speaker 1: than the parts. Those two together are as a tandem elite.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there might only be two or three other

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Speaker 1: safety combinations that can do the same thing that those

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Speaker 1: two guys can do in the scope of Buffalo's defense.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, they are unquestionably the lynch pins on the

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Speaker 1: back end. So you look at the back end of

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01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: the defense and he let's go to the corner. He

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Speaker 1: started the corners, or yeah, I will start at the

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Speaker 1: corners and leave the safeties for a minute. But the

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Speaker 1: corners obviously got Turdavious White, you got Josh Norman, Levi Wallace, EJ.

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Speaker 1: Gaines over the last three years of Sean McDermott's tenure. Here,

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Speaker 1: those three guys as the other cornerbacks Davious White, are

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01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: pretty familiar names. Josh Norman, Levi Wallace, and EJ. Gaines. EJ. Gaines.

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01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: The team was eight and three in his starts three

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01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: years ago when he was with the foot with the

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01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: team before he left. Obviously he wasn't on the field

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01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: all the time he was injured a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: those are four corners that Bill's fans are pretty familiar with.

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Speaker 1: It starts with Tredavious Josh Norman coming to Buffalo from Washington.

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 1: Of course, Josh Norman hitting the home run, being the

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Speaker 1: top paid cornerback in the National Football League when he

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01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: was under Sean McDermott's two ledge, and then behind those

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Speaker 1: guys Levi Wallace, EJ. Gaines, and then you've got tarn Johnson,

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson, the draft pick, Cam Lewis, and Ike Brown.

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Speaker 1: They got a lot of corners to choose from right,

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: and obviously the most compelling competition will be at that

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: right cornerback spot opposite Tredavious is Levi able to hold

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01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: off another you know, contender for the starting job again.

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01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: Last year he successfully held off Kevin Johnson. The year

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Speaker 1: before as a rookie, he ended up taking over for

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Speaker 1: Philip Gaines. So now here comes test number three for

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01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: Levi in Josh Norman, who obviously comes in here with

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01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: the well and the chip on his shoulder that you

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: know of redemption really because he's had two pretty rough

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01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: seasons in Washington and talking to a couple of colleagues

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01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: that I know that worked down there and cover that team,

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01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: you know, they just felt that the scheme wasn't a

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01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: perfect fit for him. In Washington, they play more man

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01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: than they do zone. And I think we all know

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01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: that Norman played his best football in Sean McDermott scheme

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01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: him in Carolina, which is what made him a franchise

1313
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: tagged player before the Panthers ascended it, and then he

1314
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: signed for giant money in Washington. So I think he's

1315
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: looking to reclaim a bit of his status and cachet

1316
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: in this league as a reliable, competent, playmaking corner. Whether

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: he can do that, that proofs in the pudding. First,

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01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: he's got to outperform Levi Wallace to make sure he's

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Speaker 1: on the field every week to redeem himself. And I

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: think that's going to be a very compelling competition going

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Speaker 1: into training camp. Yeah. J Gaines is an interesting guy

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01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: as well. EJ. Gaines was here three years ago when

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: they went to the playoffs. Josh Norman obviously has had

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01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: success in the National Football League, But I don't know.

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01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace seems like one of those guys it's hard

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01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: to pry out of that lineup, you know, whatever they

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01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: throw at him, he just seems like, well, he's just

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01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: playing too consistent. He does what they ask him to

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: do more often than not. And certainly here and here's

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01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: the thing, Levi Wallace probably And I'm just guessing here

1331
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: because I haven't spoken to you know, Leslie Fraser about

1332
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: Levi by Wallace specifically, he seems to me like one

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: of those guys that they know what they're getting from him.

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01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: They know he's gonna be in the right spot, line

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: up the right way, play the right technique. He may

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: get beat physically once in a while, but he's gonna

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01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: play the defense the way the coaches want it. To

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: be played, and I think that's one reason coaches rely

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01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: on a guy he You know, he may not be

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01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: as gifted as Tradevious White or Josh Norman was in

1341
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: his prime, or even EJ. Gaines, but the guy is

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: always doing exactly what the defense calls for and that

1343
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: goes a long way in a coaches meeting when you're

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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: trying to find a guy that you trust. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can speak to this more, Steve,

1346
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: but it just seems to me that the players that

1347
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: may not be the elite, twitched up, super super star

1348
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: athlete are the guys that sometimes play more consistent football

1349
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: because they have to rely on the scheme and on

1350
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: their technique. They don't have the fallback option of relying

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: solely on their athleticism because they don't have the elite athleticism.

1352
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 1: But I find countless examples where those are the players

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01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: that sometimes coaches trust more because they play it by

1354
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: the letter of the law, because that's the only way

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: they can be successful. Right. They don't go off the

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01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: page thinking they can make an athletic play. They don't. Yeah,

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01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: they don't risk things thinking that the guy can't beat

1358
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: him because he is who he is right. They don't

1359
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 1: undersell their opponent and they don't oversell their own abilities.

1360
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: And sometimes a really gifted guy oversells his abilities, particularly

1361
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Speaker 1: at the highest level, when you forget everybody's really gifted

1362
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: and you can oversell your abilities for the first time

1363
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: in your career once you get to the highest level,

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01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: and some of these young corners coming out think like,

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01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: ain't nobody can outrun me, you know, And then a

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: first day of training camp three guys on his own team,

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: do you know? So it's yeah, So it's it's an

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: eye opener for some guys. And I think when those

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01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: guys come up through, like like a Levi Wallace, who

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: was a guy who earned his way on the field

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01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: in college and did it here too, just you know,

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01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, coaches love things they can

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01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: depend on. They like what they know, and when they

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: get a player like that, sometimes it's really hard to

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01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: get him off the field. Do you do you think

1376
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: they're looking I mean, obviously they're looking to upgrade him.

1377
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Speaker 1: But when they start camp Levi Levi Wallace as the

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01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: incumbent guy who was there at the end of last year,

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Speaker 1: do you think he lines up with the ones do

1380
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 1: they make those other guys earn it? I think they don't.

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01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: I think he does, and if not, for anything, from

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01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: this standpoint, he knows how to play off those other

1383
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: three starters in the secondary, having done it for more

1384
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: than a season. So just from the standpoint of familiarity

1385
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: and knowing how to play off one another, the communication

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01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: that goes on on the field, and you know, tight situations,

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01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: critical situations, He's been there with those other three guys.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he gets the benefit of the

1389
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: doubt there. You know, you mentioned EJ. Gain Steve, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's a different layer to EJ. Gaines making

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Speaker 1: the roster this year. Obviously, he was here last year

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01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: during training camp and it didn't work out. And when

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01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: he did play full time as the starting Ryan cornerback

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01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: opposite Tradavious all the way back in twenty seventeen, injuries

1395
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: kind of compromised his season because he was having a

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01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: good season, but he only played in eleven games that

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01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: year because of injury. I think we forgot and I

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01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: did too. Admittedly, this guy has experienced in the slot

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01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: as well, so I think what he offers here is

1400
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: a quality that the coaching staff from top to bottom covets,

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01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: and that's position flexibility. So even though he may not

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01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: be able to secure the starting nickel roll and beat

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01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: out Tarren Johnson or a starting corner role, beat out

1404
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: Josh Norman or Levi Wallace, it's a guy who might

1405
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: make the rosters simply because if God forbid, there's an injury,

1406
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: this guy can line up outside or inside right now.

1407
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: And that there is something to be said for that.

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01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: But here's the things White I'll say, Okay, he's he's

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01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: gonna make the team, probably Josh Norman, Levi Wallace, maybe EJ. Gaines.

1410
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They got eight corners. Eight how

1411
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: many do they keep last year? They kept four or

1412
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: five I think five, okay at the start, at the

1413
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: very start of the season when they when they put

1414
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster together. But they don't go

1415
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: fat at the corner position under coach McDermott, which is surprising,

1416
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, knowing he's a former dB himself, that he

1417
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: doesn't go heavy at corner because you have one big

1418
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: injury there and you only have four or even five

1419
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: on the roster. Now you're you're probably making a roster

1420
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: move to kind of refortify the position. Right, So you've

1421
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: got cam Lewis, Ike Brown, Dane Jackson, the draft pick

1422
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: out of pit pit, and you know, one of those

1423
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 1: guys probably gonna be hanging around at least on the

1424
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: practice squad. They're probably gonna want him to the black one.

1425
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,799
Speaker 1: One of those guys to make it, Arn Johnson, Dane Jackson,

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01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 1: cam Lewis, Ike Brown. Those are the four names that

1427
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: are like, which one of those you know, which one

1428
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: of those guys gonna be up every week? Right? I

1429
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: think they'll they'll be like six or seven guys hanging

1430
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: around practice squad, ir whatever. Maybe on the fifty three,

1431
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: maybe they'll be six of them. But some of those guys,

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01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, those are the names that you're looking at,

1433
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 1: um Ike Brown, cam Lewis, Dane Jackson, Tarren Johnson. And

1434
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: cam Lewis was on the practice squad last year. He's

1435
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: the ub kid, and he was seeing time mostly in

1436
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: a slot role because he is he is small in

1437
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: stature and usually they put those smaller guys inside. And

1438
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 1: then one of the reasons that the Bills did go

1439
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: so light a corner when they made their fifty three

1440
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: was because they had plans for Saran Neil and Dean

1441
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: marlow to kind of double as slot corners in certain

1442
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: personnel situations. So when they went when the opponent went

1443
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, Siran Neil came on the field right Terren

1444
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: Johnson went off, and when they went twenty one personnel,

1445
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: Dean Marlowe came on the field and essentially served in

1446
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: that nickel corner role as a third linebacker. So it's

1447
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see if they if they hold

1448
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: true to that form or if they go with more

1449
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,799
Speaker 1: of a true backup nickel like an EJ. Gaines. Slot

1450
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: and heavy nickel are gonna be the real question marks

1451
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 1: as Hallo roster is gonna fall. I think the corners

1452
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: will take care of themselves. I think we're gonna take

1453
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: a break. We'll come back right after this and we'll

1454
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: talk about the safety's hide poorer, Saran Neil, Dean Marlowe,

1455
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: all of those guys. Steve Tasker and Chris Brown were

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Speaker 1: healed to. At three o'clock, two o'clock ESPN NFL Nation

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01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: reporter covering the Saints. There'll be Mike Triplett joining us.

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Speaker 1: Come right back. It's gonna be state of the Bills,

1459
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: and let's see what the safeties are doing right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. See Tasker along with

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Speaker 1: Chris Browns. We're here to till three and at two o'clock,

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01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: Mike Triplet's gonna come on. He's the ESPN NFL Nation reporter.

1464
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: He covers the New Orleans Saints. You can imagine what

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01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to him about. But right now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do State of the Bills, and we just

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: covered the cornerbacks. There's eight of them on the roster

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01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: right now to our account, and they will keep them

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01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: at maximum of six and that would be more than

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01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: they kept last year. Six of the meeting and six

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Speaker 1: maybe a practice squad guy or whatever. They'll probably keep

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Speaker 1: four or five active on the roster and probably go

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Speaker 1: active with four on game day. I would think having

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Speaker 1: one guy that's and they have to be versatile enough

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01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: to play inside and outside. So there's that on right now.

1476
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna move on. Let's talk about the safeties and

1477
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: it's one of the things that have been off the

1478
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 1: radar for Bills fans for the last three years. Ever

1479
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: since Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer showed up, Bill's fans

1480
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: kind of have their chest out about their safety play.

1481
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: Those two guys are good, I'm really good. And not

1482
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: only are they really good, they're almost they're also they're

1483
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: so good they're underappreciated by the rest of the league.

1484
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: And so they've gotten You've got Poorer and Hide. You've

1485
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: got Siran Neil Dean Marlow, who we had on the

1486
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: show just yesterday. You've got Jikwon Johnson who was a

1487
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: draft pick last year, and Garrett Taylor Josh Thomas. So

1488
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: so they've got like what seven guys on the roster

1489
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: right now to play safety. And I don't know that

1490
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: you can get Poorer Hide off the field in any circumstances,

1491
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: right And they just signed pour Yer to that contract

1492
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 1: extension this offseason, So you know, these two guys are

1493
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: probably going to be the starters for at least the

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01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: next two seasons. This season and next season because after

1495
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: next year, I believe Hyde's contracts up, they'll have to

1496
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: see where they go with that. I know Jakwan Johnson's

1497
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: a player they think a lot of I think they

1498
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: believe his football IQ is far exceeds his years in

1499
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: the game. And if you remember Steve, this is a

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01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: guy who's had Ed Reid as a mentor, with them

1501
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: both being University in Miami alums. And we remember last

1502
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: year he got a lot of playing time in that

1503
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: season finale against the Jets when a lot of the

1504
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: starters were rested, and he performed admirably in that game

1505
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: when the Jets for the most part, had all their

1506
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: starters playing a good portion of that game, at least

1507
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: through three quarters. So I think he's a guy to

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01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: keep an eye on to see if he's advanced his

1509
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: game to a point where maybe if they play some

1510
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: three safety type looks, does he get on the field

1511
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: instead of Dean Marlowe or Sir Rand Neil. You know,

1512
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: we have to see what happens there. And then the

1513
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: under the radar player for me is Josh Thomas. And

1514
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: the reason I say that is because I remember when

1515
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: I was getting ready for the draft, I was looking

1516
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: at line backers and I was watching this linebacker from

1517
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: Appalachian State who I actually liked a lot on tape,

1518
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,799
Speaker 1: a team Davis Gaither, who wound up going to the Bengals.

1519
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: I want to say, early in the fourth round on

1520
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: Day three. Just a really really good athlete and the

1521
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: kind of linebacker that you want in this era of

1522
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: the NFL who can cover and cover a lot of

1523
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: the field. And I'm watching his tape and I'm saying

1524
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: to myself, who the heck is his number seven over here?

1525
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: And I'm sure scouts go through this all the time

1526
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: when they watch tape, they're watching some guy and then

1527
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's this other person who catches

1528
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: their eye, who's making all these plays or is around

1529
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: the ball. And that number seven was Josh Thomas. And

1530
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: then I ended up watching Josh thomas tape right after

1531
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 1: that because he impressed me with the way he instinctively

1532
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: was around the ball all the time. And here's what

1533
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: I like about Josh Thomas. First of all, he's a

1534
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: put together kid as far as physical measurables go, and

1535
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: then two year captain, and then taking a step further,

1536
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: he played free safety his junior season and then played

1537
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: strong safety his senior season, so he's got experienced at

1538
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: both spots, which I think is important knowing how the

1539
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 1: Bills like them to be interchangeable. So I'm and again

1540
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: this shortened off season, no time on the field hurts

1541
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: players like him. There's no question about it. When they

1542
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: get to training camp, he's going to be behind the

1543
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: eight ball. But I'm really interested to see if his

1544
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: athleticism can help him keep up. And really kind of

1545
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 1: if he's not going to get a regular roster spot,

1546
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: I think he's a prime candidate for a practice squad

1547
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: role really, and for me, what it comes down to,

1548
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: these guys in the defensive backfield, in my experience, most

1549
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: of the time, they are all elite athletes. I mean

1550
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 1: elite by they're better than any high school athlete you

1551
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: were ever around. These are the guys that if you

1552
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: if they were eight years old or ten years old

1553
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: or fourteen years old, if you give them, if you

1554
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: put them in any sport from curling to ice hockey,

1555
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: to soccer, to golf, baseball, you name it, they could

1556
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 1: be a professional athlete and any want to. They've got

1557
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: the hand, eye and the hike IQ to learn it

1558
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: and apply themselves and get to the top low That's

1559
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: that's the gifts these guys have, all of them. So

1560
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: what they it comes down to, really Brown, as you said,

1561
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 1: it's become safety particular it is a between the years position.

1562
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: It's not only what you're doing and the other ten

1563
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: guys on your defense that are doing, and you've got

1564
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 1: to orchestrate that. It's what the other team's doing. You've

1565
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: got to see it, recognize it, communicated, and in some way,

1566
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: shape or form, tip off your teammates as to what

1567
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: you think's going to happen. And not only do all

1568
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: of that. When you tip them off to what's going

1569
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: to happen, you gotta be right. And those two guys

1570
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: in that app State defense, Keem Davis Gai through the

1571
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: linebacker and Josh Thomas. If you watch the film, those

1572
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 1: are the two guys pointing before the snap, gesticulate and

1573
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: all over the field to get guys say hey, this

1574
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 1: is coming and get over here, you know, cheat this

1575
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: way six inches. You know, let's leverage this play because

1576
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: it's coming this way. That kind of thing. Those are

1577
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: the two guys doing all the point and gesticulating pre step. Yeah,

1578
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's important. I mean, guys have to

1579
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: do that. You can from film study and from things

1580
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: that you do. And I know this too because I

1581
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: I can't experience this to a lesser degree when I played,

1582
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: You study all this film, you watch these guys, you

1583
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: know what it is, and you know what it is

1584
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: to be a football player. And you get in these

1585
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, rare but but real moments in a football

1586
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: game and you absolutely positively know what's going to happen.

1587
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 1: You know, even if if it's a new play or whatever,

1588
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 1: there's something they happen showing what you kind of you

1589
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 1: feel what's gonna happen, and you know it. And you'll

1590
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: have guys, you know, spritting across the field out of

1591
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: their position and being right in the middle of it

1592
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: where they had no business knowing that was coming. It's

1593
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: a and safeties to me. Once. First of all, they're

1594
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: free to do that a little bit more than other

1595
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: because they don't really have a guy unless they're down

1596
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage. They're back there are kind

1597
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: of the overarching umbrella. They have a little bit more

1598
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: freedom a little more often to be in a position

1599
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: to do things like that. Ed Reid was a crusher

1600
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: at doing that. Yeah, but that's part of what makes

1601
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: a good one a good one. They have an appetite

1602
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: to watch film, and they do more than just study

1603
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: their opponent. They feel what's going to happen in these plays?

1604
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, and not to you know, keep tooting Josh

1605
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: Thomas his horn. But here's kind of proof that he

1606
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: can handle both of those roles. So he plays free

1607
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: safety as a junior and he posts a single season

1608
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: career high four interceptions. The next year he plays strong

1609
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: safety and he has a single season best seventy two

1610
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: tackles and gets first team All Sun Belt Conference owners.

1611
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 1: So I think it's just an indication, Hey, if we

1612
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: put him here, he's gonna be productive. Hey, if we

1613
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: put him here, he's shown an ability to be productive.

1614
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: Now it's a whole different ball of wax at the

1615
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: NFL level, but he's a guy that I'm definitely going

1616
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on when we get to training. Yeah,

1617
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: the new guy's on the rosters, Josh Norman. Of course,

1618
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: then you've got at corner, EJ. Gaines at corner, he's

1619
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: a new guy. He's back with the Bills. Dane Jackson

1620
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: drafted in the seventh round, and Garrett Taylor. Those are

1621
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,799
Speaker 1: the corners, and of course the safeties, you've got Seran

1622
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 1: Neil Uh he's the big nickel and all that, and

1623
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: then uh, you know, Levi Wallace, Jaquan Johnson. These guys

1624
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 1: have been around for a while, so there's a large

1625
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: roster there and it's gonna be fun to, uh to

1626
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: keep track of it. That's our state of the Bills

1627
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 1: defensive backfield. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown. We're gonna be joined

1628
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: in the next hour by ESPN NFL Nation rapporter covering

1629
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 1: the Saints. It's Mike Triplett. He's coming up right after

1630
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: the break one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. This

1631
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's radio time. Steve Tasker, touch Down, touch

1632
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 1: Down to do time. Welcome Bawer, number three of one

1633
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: of Bills Lives taster along with Chris Brown here and

1634
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo we're broadcasting firm of homes. We'll be back on

1635
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: MSG perhaps in the next month or two. At some

1636
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,480
Speaker 1: point in the next decade, we'll be back on television

1637
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: this season. But annyway, we're pleased to be joined right

1638
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 1: now by ESPN NFL Nation reporter. He covers the Saints.

1639
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 1: He's been covering the Saints since two thousand and five.

1640
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: He's a contributor to ESPN SportsCenter and ESPN Radio. Mike Triplett,

1641
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with a steep tasker and Chris

1642
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: Brown here in Buffalo. How are you doing? I'm doing well.

1643
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing? Doing great? Mike? Obviously your

1644
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 1: phone might have been ringing off the hook. You cover

1645
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: the Saints. Drew Brees is Drew Brees had the the

1646
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,600
Speaker 1: statement about the kneeling with a flag and then the apology,

1647
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: and of course his teammates were asked to chime in

1648
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: on it. How where does it all sit now, maybe

1649
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: a twenty four forty eight hours after the fact. Well,

1650
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they've taken some positive steps. Yesterday

1651
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: they had a one hour virtual team meeting that had

1652
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: been previously scheduled, but the eating became all about this,

1653
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: and it was described by players to me as as

1654
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: a pretty positive outlet. Not necessarily positive comments made all around.

1655
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean, people were getting things, very important things off

1656
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 1: their chest. Somebody said it was a vulnerable conversation and

1657
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: important conversation. But that was good, and I think just

1658
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: as importantly a lot of other team leaders stepped up

1659
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: um to sort of provide a path forward. You know,

1660
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: they they're not letting Drew Brees off the hook at all.

1661
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of them had some strong words about

1662
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: hurt and anger and disappointment in him, and that's going

1663
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: to continue. But they did accept his apology, guys like

1664
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Davis and Michael Thomas now mccamara yesterday, Um, and

1665
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna hold him accountable that that that

1666
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: he uh. The word uh they were using was the

1667
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: accountability that he's going to you know, his actions are

1668
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 1: going to back up his heartfelt apologies. They know he's

1669
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: at least going to make the effort to make up

1670
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 1: for this. Mike, how would you characterize the strength and

1671
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: maybe fabric of that locker room? Is it tighten it

1672
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: where it can handle and and you know whether something

1673
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 1: like this, knowing how raw emotions are not only in

1674
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: that locker room but this country right now, well, I

1675
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: think this is a good example of how that's such

1676
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: a tough generalization to make. I mean, we say it

1677
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: all the time, they've got a good locker room. Oh

1678
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: this is a good locker room. You get tested when

1679
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,560
Speaker 1: you face adversity. You know, I've covered a lot of

1680
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: teams the best they always have great locker rooms, and

1681
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: they're winning. When they're owing three, you know, you can

1682
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 1: find out what kind of a locker room you have.

1683
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: This is this is that magnified, you know. I mean,

1684
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: we obviously saw a locker room divide. And you can't

1685
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: speak for everybody in the team. There's some people who

1686
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: will probably never forgive Breeze and might have trouble, you know,

1687
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: playing alongside him. But one thing I can say with

1688
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,759
Speaker 1: certainty is they have a lot of really high character

1689
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 1: leaders who who you know, are are already in the

1690
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,719
Speaker 1: first twenty four hours, you know, show showing that leadership,

1691
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, Malcolm Jenkins by by being as open

1692
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: and honest with why he was hurt by Breeze, but

1693
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: then still being willing to talk to Breeze tomorrow. Davis

1694
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: talking about um, you know, how he embraces Drew's apology

1695
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: and wants to move forward from there. Um. You know,

1696
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 1: the leadership that has been shown has been pretty impressive.

1697
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: So it does appear that they at least have a

1698
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: lot of core leaders who are gonna who are gonna

1699
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: make the effort to get through this. What did Sean Payton,

1700
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 1: what was his message perceived as? What what did he

1701
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: have to say about all of this to his team?

1702
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: Do you know? Well, um, I don't I didn't get

1703
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 1: any specific comments about what Sean Payton has said to

1704
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 1: the team, but players did say that they value the

1705
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: way he's led them through this. He hasn't tried to

1706
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: for it. He hasn't tried to say, don't talk about

1707
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 1: this stuff, just focus on football. He's not doing any

1708
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 1: of that. He gave them this forum. He sees the

1709
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: value in them really having these important conversations and he's

1710
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 1: not trying to censor that. One bet. He's not trying to,

1711
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, push any of his opinions on anybody in

1712
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: this situation, and he wants to make sure that they

1713
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 1: hash it out. And he did go on social media

1714
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: the same thing I said about how as soon as

1715
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: Demorrio Davis sort of went on CNN and ESPN yesterday

1716
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: and accepted Breeze's apology, you know, he said, that's why

1717
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: you're a great man. To Mario, this is what I

1718
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 1: love about our team. So, you know, he's promoting team,

1719
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: the team finding a way to heal itself. So, Mike,

1720
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 1: with respect to offseason programs this spring and probably portions

1721
01:35:55,640 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: of the summer, in a climate and time where coaches

1722
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 1: who are largely known as control freaks for lack of

1723
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: a better term, are trying to make contact and hold

1724
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,839
Speaker 1: players to a structure no matter where they are across

1725
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: the country. The Saints have kind of gone against the

1726
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: green a little bit with foregoing an offseason program. What

1727
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: have you gotten from you know, the coaching, you know,

1728
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: whether it's coach Peyton or anybody else on the staff,

1729
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: as to why that decision was made and why they

1730
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with that decision right. Well, first of all,

1731
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,719
Speaker 1: they have been in contact. I mean, the team meeting

1732
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: that I talked about yesterday was was was already prescheduled.

1733
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: They've had others like it, and individual position coaches are

1734
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 1: in contact with their players. They have playbooks, they have

1735
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 1: some you know, conditioning guidelines. But I think the biggest

1736
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: point that the Saints were trying to make was instead

1737
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: of watching your calendar, I might have to fly back

1738
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 1: on June first, I might have to fly back on

1739
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: June tenth. I'm waiting to see when the Saints are

1740
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 1: going to have me and I don't know if we're

1741
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 1: going to do four weeks of practice or one week

1742
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: of practice. They just said right at the beginning, Look,

1743
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,719
Speaker 1: you guys focus on your families. You focus on getting

1744
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,839
Speaker 1: in a conditioning routine. You focus on coming here hopefully

1745
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: for a full training camp at the end of July,

1746
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: in the best shape of your life and ready to

1747
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: go to work then. And they were the first team

1748
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 1: to say that, and you know, while others were still

1749
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: holding I hope it may turn out that that's what

1750
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: every team in the NFL ends up doing because of

1751
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: the timeline we're on right now. Now, that's the New

1752
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints have been in the mix. And by the

1753
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: way we're talking to Mike Tripple has been covering the

1754
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: Saints since two thousand and five. The Saints have been

1755
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 1: had their window open ever since, you know, two years

1756
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 1: ago when they got were on the wrong end of

1757
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 1: a missed pass interference call in the NFC Championship Game

1758
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 1: that ultimately led the Rams to the Super Bowl. Last year,

1759
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: the rule change that they spear hit it headed could

1760
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:02,640
Speaker 1: not have been watched any worse by the NFL and

1761
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: the way it was done and the way it was

1762
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 1: passed and everything about it. And now this and so

1763
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: this year they signed Jamis Winston, that this is a

1764
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: team that's changing and evolving. Where does their windows stand?

1765
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 1: How good do the Saints expect to be. And how

1766
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: much have they changed since two years ago when a

1767
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: lot of people think they were Super Bowl team. Yeah,

1768
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: three years in a row. Now they actually the best

1769
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: regular season record in the NFL over the last three years.

1770
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Eleven wins, thirteen wins, thirteen wins. I mean, that is

1771
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: obviously a team that is right there on the cusp.

1772
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 1: It's actually the first time in Saints history they've won

1773
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 1: thirteen games back to back years. And that's what you want.

1774
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: You want to be in the mix. And I think

1775
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 1: they'll still be right there. Obviously, they've got they've got

1776
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 1: to pull it off in the postseason, and that's the

1777
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: hurdle that they, you know, can't seem to get past,

1778
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: and that window probably is shrinking. But this team is

1779
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: still every bit as talent and as those teams you

1780
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: just mentioned, and more so than maybe in Drew Brees

1781
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: is absolute prime when they were thrown for fifty four

1782
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 1: hundred yards fifty five hundred yards, over five thousand yards

1783
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: as many times as you did. They're way more balanced.

1784
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 1: They have a defensive and win games from they have

1785
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: running back sick and win games from an offensive line.

1786
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's what we've seen in recent years.

1787
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest offseason edition is probably veteran

1788
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,799
Speaker 1: receiver Emmanuel Sanders, because I think that's been their biggest

1789
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: deficiency the last two years. Is not enough go to

1790
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 1: receivers beyond Michael Thomas. But but there's no question that

1791
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 1: that when you was shrinking this, a lot of indications

1792
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 1: this will probably be Drew Breeses last season. They need

1793
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 1: to decide if Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill or a

1794
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 1: quarterback to be named as their next quarterback. This would

1795
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 1: ideally be the time to try to win while they

1796
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: have as much talent as they do. And speaking of

1797
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 1: those receiving targets, Mike, you know you mentioned Sanders being

1798
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: a new addition to kind of pair with Thomas. I

1799
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: know they have jar Cook at tight end and then

1800
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 1: they make you know, the draft choice of Adam Troutman,

1801
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 1: the pass catching tight end from Dayton, who I saw

1802
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,560
Speaker 1: down at the Senior Bowl, had a really good weekum

1803
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: with with the With the increased interest in utilizing more

1804
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: twelve personnel the last year or so, can you foresee

1805
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 1: a situation where maybe Sean Payton turns to that personnel

1806
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 1: grouping more provided troutman provides, you know, proves to be

1807
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: quick on the uptake in this truncated offseason. Yeah, well

1808
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: that you just said it at the end there Um,

1809
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 1: this off season in particular could make it hard for

1810
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: a gal you're projecting to make a big leap. But

1811
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: there's no doubt they'll they'll find a role for him.

1812
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: This this team could lead twelve personnel. This team could

1813
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 1: have like six tight ends off the field, you know,

1814
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: creativity and versatility. Taysom Hill plays you know, sort of

1815
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,799
Speaker 1: a hybrid tight end position for them. They drafted another quarterback,

1816
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean Stevens who does that same thing, could play

1817
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: a little tight end for them. Josh Hill is a

1818
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: valuable tight end for them as well. So h look,

1819
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 1: there's there's really no no no use dwelling on with

1820
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 1: the base offensives in New Orleans because you know, Sean

1821
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: Payton will throw fourteen different formations. That's in the first

1822
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: fifteen plays. But but there's no doubt that it's not

1823
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 1: just going to be a team that throws the ball

1824
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: to three wide receivers and and they run deep. It's

1825
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: it's a team that will rely heavily on the tight end,

1826
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to running backs out of the bad

1827
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 1: field just as much as that. Taysom Hill is always

1828
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 1: a story because the way Sean Payton uses him and

1829
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: his ability to get it done when he gets on

1830
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: the field. How is that going to evolve in the

1831
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: near future. I think for this year, they you know,

1832
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: they well, first of all, they genuinely believe he could

1833
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 1: be the next starting quarterback of this team. They they're

1834
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 1: not married, damn obviously, because he brought in Jamis Winston,

1835
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 1: and they'll consider other options, but they really believe. I

1836
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 1: would almost paint him as the front runner right now

1837
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 1: to be the successor to Drew Brees. But in the meantime,

1838
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 1: they're not just gonna lock him away and save him

1839
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. He's going to continue to be

1840
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: one of the most valuable playmakers on this team him

1841
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: and he was probably the best or the most effective

1842
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 1: playmaker on the field for them in their playoffs lost

1843
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: to Minnesota as a runner, as a receiver, and he's

1844
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: going to continue to do things. And that's why it

1845
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: was so valuable for them to bring in a Jamis

1846
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: Winston who can be ready to go in the game

1847
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: if Drew Brees gets hurt, so they're not just saving

1848
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:39,560
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill in a backup qv role. And then just

1849
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 1: with respect to AJ Klein, obviously Sean McDermott knows him

1850
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: pretty well having spent time with him in Carolina, but

1851
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 1: for Bills fans, he's largely an unknown. So can you

1852
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: just shed a little light on maybe what the Bills

1853
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: are getting in linebacker? A. J. Klein? Yeah, he was

1854
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: a really valuable addition for the Saints over the last

1855
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: three was he actually in two and seventeen when when

1856
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 1: they began this three year run of of of eleven

1857
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 1: thirteen thirteen wins in playoff runs each year And the

1858
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 1: first year they brought him in, he became their captain,

1859
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, signal caller, and then the last two years

1860
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: he kind of moved over to the strong side, but

1861
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 1: he has that versusail. He also to be the two

1862
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,839
Speaker 1: the linebacker, you know, when they only have two linebackers

1863
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: on the field who can drop back and coverage. So

1864
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 1: just one of those, uh, you know, versatile experienced veterans.

1865
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Before they signed him, he was in Carolina and sometimes

1866
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: he backed up Luke Keickley when Keickley was hurt. Sometimes

1867
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: he backed up Thomas Davis when Thomas Davis was hurt,

1868
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 1: which is the ultimate versatility behind those two guys. So

1869
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: he's done a captain and he's been a guy who's

1870
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 1: played a variety of position. He's been a guy who's

1871
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:49,799
Speaker 1: worn the green down on his helmet and called the signals.

1872
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 1: So obviously a lot of values guys who can do

1873
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: that in the NFL. One of the other things you've done, Mike,

1874
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:00,040
Speaker 1: since there is no NFL football offseason going on, and

1875
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: you also delved into the college ranks and you built

1876
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: up and it's pretty interesting to see if you put

1877
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 1: together an NFL lineup from different states of the Union,

1878
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, from Alabama, Ohio, LSU, different colleges, that could

1879
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: really line up a pretty good NFL team. What stood

1880
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: out to you about that project, Well, we had a

1881
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: lot of fun to that. We put it together sort

1882
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: of a panel because there's no like just hint, just

1883
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 1: type in, you know, stats or a computer formula. We

1884
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: wanted like some humans choosing it, and so we made

1885
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: our standard trying to win the Super Bowl in twenty twenty,

1886
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 1: you know, so like four instance, when we selected our

1887
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 1: big ten roster, we had to choose between Tom Brady,

1888
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: Drew Brides, and Russell Wilson, and the final voting, if

1889
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: I remember, was four to three to two. But Wilson

1890
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: won that job because the idea is he would be

1891
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 1: the best equiped to win the Super Bowl this year.

1892
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: Obviously a lifetime achievement where we go to Tom Brady.

1893
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:53,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean we had to do things like

1894
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: choose between JJ and t J Watt rather for that

1895
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 1: for that team, and the Big ended up narrowly edging

1896
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,799
Speaker 1: the SEC when we did conferences. And what was interesting

1897
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: about that was, I think if we had done like

1898
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 1: fifty three man rosters or shoot one hundred man rosters,

1899
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,560
Speaker 1: the SEC probably would would have won running away. But

1900
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: when we just did twenty two man starting lineups eleven

1901
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: on offense, eleven on defensive, Big ten ended up winning,

1902
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 1: probably on the strength of that quarterback position. But yeah,

1903
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 1: today we went down with the individual schools and it

1904
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:29,759
Speaker 1: was LSU, Alabama and Ohouse State. And what really interested

1905
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 1: me about that is we first conceived this idea last

1906
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 1: year before a couple of those schools had quarterbacks Joe

1907
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 1: Burrow and Tour and there was some debate, would you

1908
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,920
Speaker 1: rather have Michigan with Tom Brady, but some holes elsewhere,

1909
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: you know. But now that LSU, Alabama, and Ohouse State

1910
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: have quarterbacks in the NFL in addition to all the

1911
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 1: other talents, those three just haven't everyone else beat. And

1912
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 1: you were good to the Bills. Also in terms of

1913
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: the ultimate All Conference teams there, you you had a

1914
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 1: handful of those players on the current roster on that

1915
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 1: list there, whether it was you know, Trudavious White or

1916
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde or I saw Tremaine Edmonds on the defense

1917
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: team for the a SEC. He had a healthy number

1918
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 1: of builds. Now, look White, what a show of respect

1919
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,679
Speaker 1: for him. I think the hardest, one of the hardest

1920
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: decisions way to make in this entire project was the

1921
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 1: SEC secondary Marlin Marlin Humphrey and Patrick Peterson don't make

1922
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 1: don't make this team? Wow, first first Team All pros,

1923
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 1: both of them because Trdavious White beat them out to

1924
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: be the starting SEC corner. So that's obviously high praise

1925
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: for him. And then the other thing, Mike, I wanted

1926
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 1: to just check in because you know, we see these

1927
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 1: divisions all kind of realigning and reloading, and you know,

1928
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, the Saints have kind of been the

1929
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: class of the division the last few years. Has Tampa

1930
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 1: done enough to kind of vault themselves into the number

1931
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 1: one contender for the division with New Orleans? Or do

1932
01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 1: you think you know Atlantic can have a resurgence. Carolina

1933
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: seems to be full rebuild mode under coach rules. So

1934
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't want to discount them, but

1935
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, Hey, they're going a challenge

1936
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: for the division title. How do you kind of see?

1937
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 1: Who do you see as their stiffest competition is Braid

1938
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Probably I would probably have the same read on it

1939
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 1: that you just rolled through. In Atlanta's a little bit

1940
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: of a wildcard because they struggled so badly last year.

1941
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 1: Were they like one in six one and seven? There

1942
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 1: was talk of dan quinby and fired before they before

1943
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: they rallied back. Now they've retooled a little bit too,

1944
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 1: letting go of Davante Freeman and Desmond Truffont. So there's

1945
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 1: there's rebuilding in some places there. But they've still got

1946
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and added Todd Gurley and

1947
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of talent there. So they're one

1948
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: of those teams that you could tell me they won

1949
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: six and ten. You could tell me they went twelve

1950
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: and four, and either one would totally shock me. But

1951
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: I think you have to consider Tampa Bay that the

1952
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: lead contender because they were hovering around eight and eight

1953
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 1: these last few years, even before they added Tom and

1954
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Ronald Gronkowski. I don't I'm not going to call them

1955
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 1: the front runner to win the division ahead of the Saints, though.

1956
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we've just seen time and time again that

1957
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: when when you build these sort of dream teams quote unquote,

1958
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen overnight all the time. But but boy,

1959
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 1: that is going to be fascinating to watch what Tom

1960
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 1: Brady can do in another office for the first time

1961
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 1: in twenty years. And they're sure going all in to

1962
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 1: make a run at it, aren't they. Yeah, they are.

1963
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 1: Thank you for being here, Mike. We appreciate it. Have

1964
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: a good day, and I hope you stay safe during

1965
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: the pandemic. Thank you you guys too. Mike Triplett, ESPN

1966
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 1: NFL Nation reporter covers the Saints. He's been doing that

1967
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 1: since two thousand and five. He also contributes to ESPN

1968
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 1: Sports Center and ESPN Radio. Steve Tasker Chris Brown Here

1969
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, We're on one Bills Live, We're presented by

1970
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: Kalida Hell coming up, it's NFL true false. Right after

1971
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 1: the break. This is Buffalo Bills radio chief Jasper Chris

1972
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: Brown Here one to five and time now for NFL

1973
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: true falls. We also like to thank Mike Triplett for

1974
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: coming any over the Saint since two thousand and five

1975
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 1: outs interesting things to say about the Drew Brees controversy

1976
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:07,639
Speaker 1: that flared up during the protests of this past week.

1977
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 1: We're not ready now, though, Brownie, to have NFL true false.

1978
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 1: Let's do it man. Brought to you by Yankees, Fancy

1979
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 1: New York's artists and Cheese. Here we go true false.

1980
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 1: Number one most the most missed opportunity of the National

1981
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:25,959
Speaker 1: Football League's offseason was the Patriots not acquiring an accomplished quarterback.

1982
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 1: True or false. I guess I would say true, because

1983
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 1: there were certainly opportunities to land a more experienced quarterback

1984
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 1: of greater ILK, whether it was Andy Jolton who was

1985
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: ultimately released and subsequently signed by the Cowboys. I'm sure

1986
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 1: he didn't have any interest in Jamis Winston because Belichick

1987
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 1: loaths turnovers, but there were options out there that we're

1988
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 1: certainly better than the lot they're gonna cast their die

1989
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 1: with here in twenty in Stidham and Hoyer. Now, I

1990
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: do know they think a lot of Stidham, but you're

1991
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: putting an awful lot of eggs in that basket right now,

1992
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 1: and your contingency plan is a quarterback who I don't

1993
01:50:14,439 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 1: believe has a winning record as a starter in Brian Hoyer.

1994
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 1: So it's it's risky. I don't think there's any question

1995
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: that it's risky, and I don't know that it's all

1996
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 1: going to come together. I think they'll be competitive and

1997
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 1: stay in games just because their defense is still going

1998
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 1: to be pretty good, especially on the back end, but

1999
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: they got a lot of doing to accomplish at the

2000
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 1: linebacker spot after losing three of the four starters there.

2001
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: So I think people are like, oh, you know, their

2002
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 1: defense will hold them in games, and you know, and

2003
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 1: they won't have to score thirty points. They can score

2004
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: twenty and win enough games. I don't know if that's

2005
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: completely true. I think this is going to be a

2006
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,560
Speaker 1: step back year for sure for them, and part of

2007
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: the reason why it will be the growing pains they're

2008
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: likely to experience at quarterback. Well, I think they're gonna

2009
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 1: be better than that, But I do think it's the

2010
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 1: omission of them not getting a quarterback is the most

2011
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 1: glaring omission of the offseason. Certainly, there may turn out

2012
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 1: to be, it may turn out to be less of

2013
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: a problem than we think. Maybe Sitdham's better than we think.

2014
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 1: Their defense will be just as good, even if though

2015
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 1: they've lost a bunch of guys on the front, because

2016
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: they're back end is so solid. You know, I think

2017
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 1: they're going to be a competitive team. But I think

2018
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 1: when you lose a void, and when when Tom Brady

2019
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: leaves and creates a void of that caliber and of

2020
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 1: that magnitude, promoting from within usually is not an option.

2021
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 1: You need a guy to come in and take over.

2022
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 1: And like you said, there's a ton of guys out

2023
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 1: there that could choose from from Joe Flacco who won

2024
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, Cam Newton who's still out there, Jamis Winston,

2025
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Nick Foles changed teams this year. There's certainly a lot

2026
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: of enough options out there that they could have gone

2027
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: out and changed quarterbacks and gotten what would have been

2028
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 1: at least perceived as an upgrade. And I fact, I

2029
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: think the fact that they didn't says volumes about a

2030
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 1: couple of things. It says volumes about something, and it

2031
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: is it either how much faith they have in Jared

2032
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: Stidham or how good they think they're gonna be with

2033
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 1: him in other places, and how many weapons are gonna

2034
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: put around him? Do they think they're wide receivers when

2035
01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: they get healthy and have a year off, like Edelman,

2036
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: if he comes back and plays healthy he was beat

2037
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: up last year. If Nikkil Harry comes back and plays well,

2038
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 1: if Muhammed Sano comes back and gets healthy, those guys

2039
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 1: are gonna be good enough to win with. Okay, But

2040
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 1: I think that says I think the fact that they

2041
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,599
Speaker 1: didn't make that move a quarterback says a lot about

2042
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: the faith they do have Instidham and about the faith

2043
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,560
Speaker 1: they have and the rest of their rosters. So I

2044
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: think while it was the most glaring omission omission, I

2045
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 1: think it remains to be seen as to whether it

2046
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 1: was the void we think it was when Tom Brady left. Yeah,

2047
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: And I think the other reason they didn't want to

2048
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 1: invest heavily in quarter or reinvest heavily in quarterback is

2049
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 1: because of the money they're eating right now on Brady

2050
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 1: a million. Yeah, so I think that's another component to

2051
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah, I think so too. I I do.

2052
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 1: I think it's true, and I think it is the

2053
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 1: most I think it's the most telling story of a

2054
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: team not acquiring a player at any position in the offseason.

2055
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 1: This in the NFL, if there's a you know, if

2056
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 1: everybody loses a player here and there, but for the

2057
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: Patriots to lose Tom Brady and just like say, okay,

2058
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 1: virtually right, they just said, Okay, that's fine, We're good

2059
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: without him. Uh, we're not replacing him, We're just we

2060
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 1: got a guy. Well, well we're gonna be fine. That's

2061
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 1: it is unbelieve unbelievable. So um, we'll see, we'll see. Yeah,

2062
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I agree, that's the biggest story of personnel moves in

2063
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 1: the offseason. Second one NFL true false. Number two, if

2064
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 1: there are no fans in the stands, the players should

2065
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 1: be miked up. They should mike up like all the players,

2066
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 1: just about all the players, I hope, you know. And

2067
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: now they make up like one or two guys a game, right, Uh,

2068
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,720
Speaker 1: what would be like if they miked up, you know,

2069
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,839
Speaker 1: like you say, twenty two guys you know, or fifteen

2070
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:08,600
Speaker 1: guys you know? Six on offense, six on defense on

2071
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 1: both teams. Right, they better have a very quick editor

2072
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: to turn that around, because they're gonna have to bleep

2073
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 1: out a lot of stuff. Yeah, all that all that

2074
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:21,719
Speaker 1: stuff would be unlistenable. It would have to be reviewed,

2075
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: and then you play it back, you know, later in

2076
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: the broadcast, like, oh, here's the confrontation between these two guys,

2077
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 1: and then you insert all your bleeps and I guess,

2078
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:34,879
Speaker 1: off you go. And I can't imagine that the coaches

2079
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 1: want ten to eleven players miked up a game. It's

2080
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: just going to be maybe too much risk with you know,

2081
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: play calling and pre snap communication and all that stuff

2082
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: that they probably don't want out there. And I think

2083
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 1: it also presents the other part of this, Steve, And

2084
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: I know I mentioned this last week when I was

2085
01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: on with you, that that German Soccer League they started

2086
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: piping in fan crowd noise on the broadcast, not in

2087
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 1: the actual stadium for the players. That's still a quieter environment,

2088
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: but they're doing it on the broadcast to make it

2089
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 1: feel more realistic for fans watching at home and having

2090
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 1: watched it with none of that noise the week prior

2091
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 1: and then watching a game last weekend in which the

2092
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 1: noise was piped in. From a pure fan standpoint, I

2093
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 1: think I liked it better with the noise piped in,

2094
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 1: with the fan noise being there. And it was interesting

2095
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 1: because they said, this isn't just some three hour reel

2096
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 1: of fan noise that they were utilizing. They actually had

2097
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: a guy that was choosing different fan reactions based on

2098
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 1: how the game was unfolding. So if there was like

2099
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 1: a questionable foul called, or like an off sides called

2100
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: that was really close and questionable and it was against

2101
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 1: the home team, he had like a negative fan reaction

2102
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: that he just pressed the button and bang it was going.

2103
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 1: But it was all seamless. It was really impressive. But

2104
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: they had they literally had a fan reaction guy who

2105
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:15,080
Speaker 1: called up the right fan reactions based on the circumstances

2106
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 1: in the game. Now, I don't know if the NFL

2107
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 1: is going to go that far, but it made it

2108
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 1: feel more like a real game. I will say that

2109
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 1: I have to take your word for it. It sounds ridiculous.

2110
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 1: It sounds ridiculous to me, but I get it. I

2111
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 1: get you try it, though, if you get an opportunity.

2112
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to poop poo it before I hear

2113
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: it or see it. But um so, But to me,

2114
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: it sounds like a ridiculous contemplation to do that. On

2115
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 1: the other hand, the question we have, you know, should

2116
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,120
Speaker 1: players be miked up? I don't have a problem with

2117
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: the players being miked up. Obviously, I don't have any

2118
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: skin in the game. I mean, I'm not. It's not

2119
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 1: my competitive advantage. I'm risking if somebody says a word

2120
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: or a phrase that's part of the is the crux

2121
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 1: of the game plan or whatever they can decipher meeting?

2122
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 1: Is that kind of thing. But I do say that

2123
01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 1: I do know this, and I said this earlier in

2124
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: the week that maybe if you have like a regular

2125
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 1: national broadcast like CBS, NBC, Fox, you name it. On

2126
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 1: the regular broadcast, it's a g rated Everything is homogenized.

2127
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: There's no language or anything like that for the broadcast.

2128
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 1: And if you want, you can go back and you

2129
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: can watch it on a on a live feed on

2130
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 1: your computer that is unfiltered. You can hear every word

2131
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: of it if you want. Um you know what I mean.

2132
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: So there's a G rated version, an R rated version,

2133
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: and then there's the unfiltered version or whatever. You'd have

2134
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: whatever gradients you want, but certainly there has to be

2135
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 1: a way that you know, you don't have to subject

2136
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 1: yourself to the language that that I spoke for all

2137
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 1: of you, so you know, so I yeah, you need

2138
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 1: to have a way. I think it'd be very interesting

2139
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 1: for fans, uh, particularly you know, guys who are in

2140
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: the room with all their other all their buddies, and

2141
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 1: they're used to the kind of rough language. You might hear, Okay,

2142
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,919
Speaker 1: that's fine, but you know, for a broad regular broadcast,

2143
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 1: when you're sitting around the house and you know the

2144
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: kids are running around, you know, there's it's inappropriate and uh,

2145
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: and you're certainly not going to get the players to stop.

2146
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're playing for all the marbles and

2147
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 1: they're all charged up. Yeah, they're They've got a They've

2148
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 1: got a lot of emotional content there. So I think

2149
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: you would if you mike them up, you're gonna have

2150
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 1: to have a plan for that. And uh, whether it's

2151
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 1: unfiltered or homogenized, I think it'd be very interesting interesting. Yes,

2152
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 1: I just don't know how realistic it is to mike

2153
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 1: everybody up, because it's just like right, you know, I

2154
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 1: don't know, so they must feel like they'd be able

2155
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 1: to do technologically. Yeah, that's a lot of different frequencies

2156
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: you're using in one stadium. So I'm just gonna say

2157
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: falls just on the basis of logistics. Yeah, and we're

2158
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 1: talking about there. They have a guy at every stadium

2159
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: and this will give you a little insight, a little

2160
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain. There is a frequency office coordinator coordinator. Right,

2161
01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Every rate, every headset, every for

2162
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 1: both teams, the headsets for security, for media, for medical people, management,

2163
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 1: all of these these different entities have their own radio

2164
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 1: frequency that they use for wireless communication in the stadium.

2165
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: And they've got all this stuff going on at the

2166
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: same time, and they've got a guy who's a frequency

2167
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 1: coordinator who goes around pregame and checks all the frequency.

2168
01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 1: Like me, as a side running reporter, I was always

2169
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, I was like here, you know, and they go, Okay,

2170
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 1: you're good, you know that, you know so, and add

2171
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 1: twenty two guys, you know, add twenty more frequencies to that,

2172
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, they and it's it's gonna be an issue.

2173
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: And it technologically, you'd think in this day and age,

2174
01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 1: how they can do it. Well, it's not that easy.

2175
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, it's not gonna happen if

2176
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 1: it costs a dime more, that's for sure, you know.

2177
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:55,400
Speaker 1: So if it's gonna cost football side of it to

2178
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 1: dime more, they're not gonna do it, So forget it, right. Yeah,

2179
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure the television networks would want to try to

2180
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 1: make it work. So I don't know how much they

2181
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 1: want to invest, but it'll be interesting to see if

2182
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:10,680
Speaker 1: they do it. How much has it expanded. So you

2183
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 1: think it's true or false? It's true or false. I

2184
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 1: just think false from a logistics standpoint. I don't see

2185
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 1: how they do it on a wide level. Yeah, I'm

2186
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,400
Speaker 1: gonna stay true because I think even if they'd only

2187
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 1: do it on the level they've gotten now, they'd pick

2188
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:23,240
Speaker 1: the right guy and you'd hear it and it'd be fun.

2189
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 1: I think, all right. NFL true false. Last one Texas

2190
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 1: Number three. Texans are the biggest sleeper team of twenty twenty.

2191
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:31,760
Speaker 1: The reason this got thrown in there is because they're

2192
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 1: an article out and the Texans are in there is

2193
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 1: the biggest sleeper team because the odds of them winning

2194
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl are fifty five to one. Vegas isn't

2195
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 1: feeling too good about them, right for a team that

2196
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 1: won a playoff game last year and they've got a

2197
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 1: quarterback that's coming back. I think the DeAndre Hopkins trade

2198
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 1: heard them. I think they brought they brought in a

2199
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,920
Speaker 1: high priced running back who's been injured. That hurts them.

2200
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to see the Texans maintaining the level of

2201
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 1: play that they have in the last year or two

2202
02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 1: into this year, right, particularly with this offseason. Yeah, the

2203
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 1: issue I have is actually with their defense. I do

2204
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 1: like the guy they drafted in the second round in

2205
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock from TCU. I think he's going to be

2206
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 1: a nice replacement for DJ Reader, who signed elsewhere in

2207
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 1: free agency. But I mean, is JJ Watt gonna actually

2208
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:32,680
Speaker 1: play a full season? He's I mean, I have respect

2209
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 1: for Whitney merciless, but he's getting long in the tooth too.

2210
02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:42,240
Speaker 1: So I just don't know where their consistent pass rushes

2211
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:45,800
Speaker 1: coming from. If JJ Watt cannot stay healthy, and that

2212
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:49,120
Speaker 1: has been a problem each of the last few years.

2213
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 1: And I think if garyon Conley is their starting cornerback

2214
02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 1: opposite Bradley Roby, I think they have another problem. I

2215
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 1: know they tried to retool the wide receiving corps. You

2216
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:06,040
Speaker 1: know they've They've got Brandon Cooks there now, Randall Cobb

2217
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 1: and Randall Cobb, will Fuller still, so they got some guys, yeah, right.

2218
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:13,840
Speaker 1: Will Fuller's another guy that can't stay healthy. I don't

2219
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,040
Speaker 1: know if he's played sixteen games yet in his career

2220
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 1: in a single season, so that's part of the issue.

2221
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:23,560
Speaker 1: And do you call him a sleeper. I don't know.

2222
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:27,360
Speaker 1: They've made the playoffs. I mean, maybe a sleeper super

2223
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 1: Bowl team, you would say. I think they're gonna be

2224
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:33,879
Speaker 1: hard pressed to win the division this year with Tennessee

2225
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 1: on the come, and with Indianapolis much improved, and with

2226
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 1: Rivers at quarterback now. So maybe it's semantics, but I

2227
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 1: just I'm having a tough time. Despite my respect for

2228
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and everything he can do to kind of

2229
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,920
Speaker 1: cover up shortcomings that your team might have, I just

2230
02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:55,880
Speaker 1: don't see him winning the division this year. And I

2231
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,200
Speaker 1: think more because of what I think they're lacking on

2232
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 1: defense than anything else. So I'm gonna say that's it

2233
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 1: though it's it, that's what they say. It looks like

2234
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 1: they're not going to be very good and all of

2235
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 1: a sudden they are. That's that's why they're asleep, right.

2236
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 1: But I don't think they are going to be as

2237
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:15,280
Speaker 1: good as you think being against them, but I don't

2238
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 1: think they're bad. But I could see them very easily

2239
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 1: being seven and nine, eight and eight because I think

2240
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 1: the other division opponents that they have have been have

2241
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 1: gotten better. Yeah, that you're saying their outs should be

2242
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 1: fifty five to one because they got no shot, right,

2243
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:30,680
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. I think they're not. They're

2244
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 1: not winning the super Bowl this year, and in fact

2245
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:34,120
Speaker 1: that I think they're gonna be worse this year than

2246
02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 1: they were last year. They could be. They might not

2247
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 1: even make the playoffs, right, So I think, Yeah, if

2248
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:40,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna stay a sleeper, that means you think they're

2249
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: that everybody feels like we do, but you think they're

2250
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:44,320
Speaker 1: gonna win. Neither of us think they're going to All right,

2251
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. That was NFL True false.

2252
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's artist and

2253
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 1: cheese Steve Tasker Chris Brown. We're here till three. This

2254
02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:53,640
Speaker 1: is one Bill's Live, presented by Kali to help on

2255
02:03:53,680 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's radio will be right back. What do We learned?

2256
02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental

2257
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:12,320
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. Earlier in the show, Chris Brown,

2258
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:15,720
Speaker 1: like my co host, got me on a tasker's teammate

2259
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 1: on the eighth clue. I managed to finally guess who

2260
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 1: he was talking about. Here's the clip. I'll go to

2261
02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:27,160
Speaker 1: clue eight. After I retired from football, I served as

2262
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 1: a county sheriff down south where I live. Now, Leon seals, bang,

2263
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:39,200
Speaker 1: you got it, and we have Leon on the phone

2264
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:50,480
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, it's doctor Sack. Hey. I apologize from

2265
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm being able to guess you after the first couple

2266
02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 1: of clues, Man, that was me trying to guess Leon seals.

2267
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 1: Nice job by Chris Brown on that on the Tasker's teammate.

2268
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 1: It took me all the way till the final clue

2269
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 1: to finally guess it. He's a police officer now an

2270
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 1: elected official down around Jackson, Mississippi. Good for Lee. And

2271
02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 1: also on the show, Mike Triplin on what Taysom Hill

2272
02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Saints. Mike Tripli covers the Saints

2273
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 1: hasince two thousand and five, he had some words about

2274
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill and his valued role on the New Orleans Saints.

2275
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:23,720
Speaker 1: Here's what Mike had to say, so, well, they genuinely

2276
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 1: believe he could be the next starting quarterback of this team.

2277
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:29,400
Speaker 1: They they're not married to him, obviously, because they brought

2278
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 1: in Jameis Winston and they'll consider other options, but they

2279
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 1: really believe. I would almost paint him at the front

2280
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:36,600
Speaker 1: runner right now to be the successor to Drew Brees.

2281
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, they're not just gonna lock him

2282
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,320
Speaker 1: away and save him for twenty twenty one. He's going

2283
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:44,440
Speaker 1: to continue to be one of the most valuable playmakers

2284
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:46,320
Speaker 1: on this team him and he was probably the best

2285
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:50,000
Speaker 1: or the most effective playmaker on the field for them

2286
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:52,920
Speaker 1: in their playoffs lost to Minnesota as a runner, as

2287
02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 1: a receiver, and he's going to continue to do things.

2288
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 1: And that's why it was so valuable for them to

2289
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 1: bring in a Jameis Winston who and be ready to

2290
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: go in the game if Drew Breese gets hurt, so

2291
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 1: they're not just saving Taysom Hill in a backup TV role.

2292
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 1: It's interesting, Brownie, that Taysom Hill is has made himself

2293
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 1: that valuable to that team as a backup quarterback. Yeah,

2294
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 1: and it's clear they're grooming him for something bigger when

2295
02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 1: Drew Brees finally decides to call it a career. But

2296
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 1: the different ways that Sean Payton's able to get him

2297
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:29,200
Speaker 1: involved in the game plan is pretty remarkable. Yeah, it is,

2298
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 1: and his abilities to get it done. I mean they've

2299
02:06:31,400 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 1: asked him to do a lot of things too. You say, well,

2300
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:35,600
Speaker 1: he runs the ball really well. They've also had him

2301
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:37,600
Speaker 1: throwing the football out of that option as too, So

2302
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:40,640
Speaker 1: it's been interesting to watch how Sean Payton uses him.

2303
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:45,080
Speaker 1: It'll just be curious if Jamis Winston finds a way

2304
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 1: to get on the field, like Breeze gets hurt God

2305
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: forbid and misses a game or two, do they go

2306
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:52,800
Speaker 1: with Winston or Is Hill the full time quarterback. I

2307
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:55,840
Speaker 1: think that's an interesting debate to have if God forbid

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Speaker 1: something happens to Breeze. That's it, Brownie, great week, Great,

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Speaker 1: I'll see you Monday. Will be with me all week.

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Speaker 1: That's Steve Tasker, Chris Brown all back in the set

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Speaker 1: back in the sad. We'll have more Tasker's teammates will

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Speaker 1: have more guest next week. Thanks everybody, have a great weekend.

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