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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to GMFB.

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Speaker 4: It's always great having these guys at the table. A

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Speaker 4: lot of fun conversations to be had, and we're gonna

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Speaker 4: go buy in or keep trying. It's a couple of

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Speaker 4: topics and I'm going to lay them out and you

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Speaker 4: guys have to say I am absolutely investing in this,

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Speaker 4: or you're saying, move along.

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Speaker 3: I want to hear the next sales pitch. Here we

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Speaker 3: go here.

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Speaker 4: There's a current scenario happening in the NFL that we

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Speaker 4: have to agree or disagree about, and that starts in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Shocking. We are going to look at a Raven's.

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Speaker 4: Rookie wide receiver that has a take about a Cleveland

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Speaker 4: Browns quarterback, and that is Lejone Wester, who is former

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Speaker 4: teammates at Colorado with rookie quarterback Shador Sanders, who waited

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Speaker 4: until the fifth round.

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Speaker 3: To be selected. His former teammate.

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Speaker 4: Wester said, I was disappointed that they did him like that.

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Speaker 4: I know Shador is going to get in the lab,

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Speaker 4: he's going to work hard, and he's going to win that.

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Speaker 3: Job in Cleveland. He's going to win that job in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: This is what his former wide receiver is saying. Shade

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Speaker 3: Sanders will.

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Speaker 4: Be QB one in Cleveland, in Cleveland, QB one, Isaiah,

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Speaker 4: are you buying this so you keep trying.

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Speaker 5: I'm buying it. I'm buying it all the way. I

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Speaker 5: don't care where this draft position was. Listen, we're not

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Speaker 5: going to get into all the depths and the layers

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Speaker 5: of the Chadura Sanders fall off in the draft. But

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Speaker 5: the reality is this dude is built for it and

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Speaker 5: he's proven it. Right. We could say that about people

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Speaker 5: all day long. From the time that he was at

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Speaker 5: you know where was he at Jackson State?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: He started at Jackson State, built that program up from

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Speaker 5: absolutely nothing right to where they're respectable. Him and his

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Speaker 5: with his dad is always going to be there until

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Speaker 5: he's not right. But now he goes out to Colorado

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Speaker 5: and he proves it again. This is the only guy

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Speaker 5: in the draft who has shown you that for the

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Speaker 5: two programs that he went to, that he was able

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Speaker 5: to build them up from nothing to something. When you're

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Speaker 5: in the position of the Cleveland Browns, you need somebody

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Speaker 5: to do what build you up from nothing to something.

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Speaker 5: So I think that he has been through it. He

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Speaker 5: is the only one that's battle tested in terms of

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Speaker 5: the media. He's the only one that's had that burden

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Speaker 5: that's been placed on him because of the last name

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Speaker 5: that he has, and he has not only talked about it,

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Speaker 5: you not only have projected it, but he has shown

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Speaker 5: it from the time that he was a youth all

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Speaker 5: the way to the time that he's now in the league.

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Speaker 5: I don't care how crowded that room is unless they

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Speaker 5: just give it to Flaco, he is going to win

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Speaker 7: I feel like I need to just stare at the

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Speaker 7: a keep trying moment for me.

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Speaker 8: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 7: I like the points Jackson State, you know, you know

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Speaker 7: he was super accurate. Look Jackson State. They had top

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Speaker 7: recruits in the country coming out of high school going

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Speaker 7: to his school that they would like never go to otherwise.

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Speaker 8: Also the stats in college.

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Speaker 7: I like it, but it's a very fabricated system. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he was in a situation with his dad as the coach.

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Speaker 7: It was going to be best case scenario for him.

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Speaker 7: So when I think about him transitioning to the NFL,

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's a true four in this room right now.

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Speaker 7: See him as a guy who's going to come in

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Speaker 8: When they choose a guy and they.

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Speaker 7: Bring somebody in, they take pride in that, Like I

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Speaker 7: was a guy who got signed. I took people's spots

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Speaker 7: in training camp, not Miles Garrett, and they went with

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Speaker 7: guy that they traded for. It's the same situation as this.

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Speaker 7: He's not even the first guy they took this draft.

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Speaker 7: What makes you think all of a sudden, this brown

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Speaker 7: is our guy. This is something that I am not

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Speaker 7: even giving any time for. Also, let's not act like

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Speaker 5: We want to play him.

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Speaker 8: Oh really.

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Speaker 9: Keep trying, all right, listen, we need to get in

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Speaker 9: a little bit of the semantics. It's sure he could

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Speaker 9: be quarterback one some day, Like maybe we're talking three

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Speaker 9: we're talking season one. If we're talking season one, no,

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Speaker 5: But like as a just touched on this, let's.

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Speaker 9: Understand what the room is in Cleveland. Joe Flacco, who

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Speaker 9: you do not bring in to just get rid of.

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Speaker 9: Joe Flacco is undoubtedly the best quarterbacks, certainly the most experienced.

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Speaker 8: Joe Flacco, super Bowl champs is gonna be part of that.

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Speaker 9: Kenny Pickett, people make jokes about him, is a bunch

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Speaker 9: of starting experience. They also traded for Kenny Pickett. This

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Speaker 9: for free. And then the elephant in the room is

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Speaker 9: Dylan Gabriel. They drafted a quarterback in the third round,

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Speaker 9: two rounds ahead of Shador. The Browns really like Dylan

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Speaker 9: Gabriel for some reason, We're still showing videos of Shador.

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 9: I think Dylan Gabriel is the guy who they love.

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Speaker 9: The Browns don't love Shador. Maybe they kind of like him,

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Speaker 9: but they passed on about twenty times. Shadoor is a

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Speaker 9: true true quarterback four and teams don't keep four active

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Speaker 9: funny or flip him. Is Shador gonna make this team?

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Speaker 9: Is he going to be a practice squad guy? How's

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Speaker 9: that gonna go with prime inc I don't see him

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Speaker 9: showing up getting any priority over Dylan Gabriel, who the

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Speaker 9: Browns clearly like more and think has a brighter future

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Speaker 9: for Pickett, who's very experienced, or Flacco, who is a legend.

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Speaker 5: So Deshaun Watson take him.

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Speaker 8: Out of the picture.

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Speaker 5: He's never gonna snat play another down from.

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Speaker 9: The Browns, but the other guys, he's clearly a four guys,

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Speaker 9: and you don't keep four quarterbacks. I don't know what

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Speaker 9: the future is. I'm not even sure why they drafted him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just completely disagree. I completely disagree from the

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Speaker 5: standpoint of with what you're right, Bill. You said they're

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Speaker 5: gonna keep. They're not gonna keep four quarterbacks. That's just

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Speaker 5: not happening in the NFL. So with that logic, right,

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Speaker 5: Joe Flacco is the vet that they brought in. Okay,

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Speaker 5: he's the one that they have the least invested in

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Speaker 5: right now. They traded for Kenny Pikett, they drafted Dealing

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Speaker 5: don't get rid of their draft pics. They just don't

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Speaker 5: get rid of draftings. If you're in the top four

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Speaker 5: by that sense, is the one that they're least invested in.

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Speaker 5: But in terms of that quarterback room, Shador Sanders is

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Speaker 5: dude is better than him, was better than him in college.

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Speaker 5: Has proven that, and I'm glad he's going to prove

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Speaker 5: it again that they don't think so in Cleveland, I don't.

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Speaker 9: I know you think that, and I respect it, But

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Speaker 9: Kevin Stefanski does not feel that way.

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Speaker 5: There's layers to do. That's I mean, two rounds ahead.

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Speaker 5: It is a big difference. We don't have time to

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Speaker 5: get into all the layers of why Shoulder dropped. But

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Speaker 5: I know, but he's better than Dylan Gaberl. There was

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Speaker 3: Why didn't they pick him?

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Speaker 5: That's a whole other conversation. Wow, here's my question.

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Speaker 7: If he is a number four guy and, like Kyle said,

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Speaker 7: doesn't make the team, what does his career look like

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Speaker 7: even in his first year after all the draft stuff,

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Speaker 7: who is who is he?

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Speaker 8: Does? He have the attitude like issues?

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Speaker 7: What does it look like if a team decides to

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Speaker 5: Have we seen anybody come out and say anything former teammates?

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Speaker 5: We're talking about teammates. That's how we got into the segment.

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Speaker 5: Has there been any teammates that have come out and

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Speaker 5: said anything negative about his leadership or his on field play?

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Speaker 8: So?

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Speaker 4: What benefit would that give that former teammates? I deon Sanders,

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Speaker 4: is a part of your is invested in your career.

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Speaker 3: He just coached you in college.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe that there be a single former teammates

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Speaker 4: like you know what, I'm a rookie in the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna walk into my new locker room and complain

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Speaker 3: That doesn't give them anything.

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Speaker 4: So it just doesn't make sense that someone would come

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Speaker 5: I agree with you on that point. However, everybody who

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Speaker 5: playing in college, they're not attached to him anymore. They

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Speaker 5: don't owe him anything anymore, right, so there would have.

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Speaker 5: We've seen former players bash their teammates, right, so we

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Speaker 5: haven't seen anybody, whether they're in the league now or not.

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Speaker 5: These guys have not said anything negative about his leadership

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Speaker 9: And I like Chaduur. I campaign for Shadur before the draft.

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Speaker 9: I really like him what he's made of.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the Browns like him that much.

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Speaker 9: But another point that it makes this such a strange

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Speaker 9: room and such an interesting topic. Remember when Miles Garrett

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Speaker 9: signed and he signs this huge extension and he sits

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Speaker 9: there with Andrew Siciliano, I think it was. And Andrew's like, so,

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Speaker 9: did the Browns give you a hint? They tell you

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Speaker 9: what their quarterback plan was going to be. And he

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Speaker 9: does this big smiles and this thing they told me, Miles,

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Speaker 9: what did they tell you that we're going to bring

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Speaker 9: in forty one year old Joe Flacco, We're going to

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Speaker 9: draft a rookie in the third round and a rookie

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Speaker 9: in the fifth round. He's like, I love it, super

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Speaker 9: that's the plan that they told you. It doesn't make

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Speaker 9: any sense at all. It's the weirdest room. It makes

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Speaker 9: the Giants quarterback room look old fashioned and conventional. The

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Speaker 9: Browns room is bizarre, and I still don't know if

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Speaker 9: Shador is a part of it, just because of the

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Speaker 9: other guys who are already there.

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Speaker 3: Isaac, what do you got?

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Speaker 4: You shake your head because you are so you know

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Speaker 4: the inner workings of the Browns and how their decision

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Speaker 4: making tree works.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, first off, I don't. That's what's confusing for me.

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Speaker 7: You know, I played there, and I am still confused.

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Speaker 7: I think at the Browns, but you guys did fire me.

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Speaker 8: This situation's crazy.

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Speaker 7: Also, we're forgetting that Deshaun Watson is still on that roster.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what that turns into, but you technically

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Speaker 7: have five quarterbacks that, according to Isaiah, are starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: So I think it's extremely complicated.

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Speaker 4: I can't get over the statement that and the two

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Speaker 3: So therefore two spots are already take it. They're already taken.

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Speaker 4: So who are you keeping You're gonna tell me that

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Speaker 3: Therefore, the logic these.

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Speaker 4: So are you going to keep Flacco or is can

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Speaker 3: It's very confusing.

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Speaker 5: It makes no sense. Their roster, their current current quarterback

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Speaker 5: saying there's draft equity. I mean, as there's trade equity,

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Speaker 5: some kind of injury. That's the truth of the matter.

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Speaker 5: So the real conversation is who's going to be the

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Speaker 9: I think the picket guy is one of the most

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Speaker 5: I mean, Kenny Pickett, for all.

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Speaker 9: But also I've also heard the opinion, well, now after

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Speaker 9: we can do historically, I don't know if there's ever

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Speaker 9: that we've been talking about this about seventeen minutes. I

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Speaker 7: I wanted to just go back to what Isaiah was

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Speaker 7: This is not a coaching staff that can or management

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Speaker 8: This is not just a free for all. They're going

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Speaker 7: And again, this is like a Brown's organization that for

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Speaker 8: Keep this guy.

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Speaker 4: I guess looking at it as from a business standpoint, Kyle,

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Speaker 3: For a seventh?

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Speaker 4: You could treat OTAs as like Kevin Stefanski finally gets

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Speaker 3: They're on the market and you saw this rookie, what

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It's trade equity. Yeah, that's exactly what

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 5: And then you drafted it two quarterbacks? So it makes

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Speaker 5: zero sense, right. All these guys are not going to

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Speaker 5: It's just how the preseason format has now laid out.

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Speaker 5: You have three preseason games now, there's not enough time

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Speaker 5: that point, you are a quarterback. I'm thinking of Shaduur

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Speaker 5: Majority of their analysis is not only gonna be just

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Speaker 5: How engaged are you? How can you break this down.

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Speaker 3: Now for nothing.

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Speaker 4: You ever think of Jonte Webs Wester walked into his

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Speaker 4: the plan. Wester's got his former quarterback and former teammate

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Speaker 3: How this all unfolds for shit or of Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Good morning football, Good morning football.

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Speaker 3: The draft.

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Speaker 4: It happened last month, Isaac, Isaiah, Kyle.

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Speaker 3: We guys going to different teams.

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Speaker 4: We thought teams fulfilled their needs, but now we're making trades.

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Speaker 4: The Steelers have traded one of their star, their star

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Speaker 4: wide receiver, George Pickens, to the Dallas Cowboys. This news

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Speaker 6: First of big news for the Dallas Cowboys. They have

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Speaker 6: The Cowboys are for George Pickens, the former now Steelers

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Speaker 6: for both of them? All parties said the right thing. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: the last couple of days restarted the process of trying

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Speaker 6: a little more, a little less. The Dallas Cowboys now

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Speaker 9: I we're gonna talk about the Cowboys shortly. I just

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, as far as Aaron Rodgers goes,

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Speaker 6: DK Metcalf. So if you wondered what Rogers himself thought

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Speaker 6: So the Cowboys now acquired George Pickens, and I would

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good point Ian to make that George

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Speaker 4: It's been Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf just up the

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Speaker 4: But we're talking about George Pickens this morning and the

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five season. Isaiah, standback. You were drafted

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Speaker 3: In this move that they make to bring Pickens there?

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Speaker 5: I just give my mister Burns fingers out, Mister Burns.

437
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Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys have been working on something over the last

438
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Speaker 5: few months. We obviously know they didn't pull any triggers

439
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Speaker 5: on receivers in this year's draft, and they don't have

440
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Speaker 5: what we consider to be in the NFL A true

441
00:18:26,388 --> 00:18:29,068
Speaker 5: number two receiver. They have Jalen Tolbert that they picked

442
00:18:29,068 --> 00:18:30,908
Speaker 5: them in the drafts some years ago. He had more

443
00:18:30,948 --> 00:18:33,508
Speaker 5: touchdowns than Ceedee Lamb last year, but he hasn't been

444
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Speaker 5: the guy that you can necessarily rest your hat on

445
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Speaker 5: as a true number two. He's more of a three.

446
00:18:37,828 --> 00:18:40,188
Speaker 5: So the Dallas Cowboys had a hole to field and

447
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Speaker 5: how did they fill that hole? Well, we just found

448
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Speaker 5: out today going out and grabbing one of the league's

449
00:18:45,028 --> 00:18:48,308
Speaker 5: best deep ball threats, one of the best contested catch

450
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Speaker 5: receivers in the league. This dude is tenacious. He has

451
00:18:52,228 --> 00:18:54,988
Speaker 5: a little greediness to him right, his little fight and

452
00:18:55,028 --> 00:18:57,228
Speaker 5: he goes out there and gets the ball at the

453
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Speaker 5: high point. We saw what difference he made with the

454
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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers, especially when Russell Wilson took over command. Immediately

455
00:19:04,428 --> 00:19:06,548
Speaker 5: he were able to throw the ball down the field. Now,

456
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Speaker 5: when you take his abilities and you pair him up

457
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Speaker 5: with a Ceedee Lamb, who is arguably the best receiver

458
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Speaker 5: in the league. You can talk about Justin Jefferson and

459
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Speaker 5: a handful of other guys Jamar Chase, but Ceede Lamb

460
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Speaker 5: is in that conversation with the top of the receivers

461
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Speaker 5: in the league. Now, all of a sudden, you have

462
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Speaker 5: a true one and a two tandem. They didn't go

463
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Speaker 5: out and get a number two receiver. They got a

464
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Speaker 5: true number one receiver to play number two as a

465
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Speaker 5: receiver for the Dallas Cowboys. And now you're seeing on

466
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Speaker 5: your screen this is what Dak Prescott has to work with.

467
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Speaker 5: He has a Ceedee Lamb on the one side, he

468
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Speaker 5: has a George Pickens on the other side, and he

469
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Speaker 5: has a Jake Ferguson. Now people are gonna look at

470
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Speaker 5: Jake Ferguson and say, well, who is that. Well, Jake

471
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Speaker 5: Ferguson was one of the best tight ends in the league,

472
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Speaker 5: win healthy two seasons ago. He had an injury injury,

473
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Speaker 5: play good season last year. But he is going to

474
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Speaker 5: be back. He is going to be healthy. So you

475
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Speaker 5: have some goons on the outside. You have a goon

476
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Speaker 5: to work the middle of the field, and you have

477
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Speaker 5: a dog on the Great Wall of China sitting there

478
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Speaker 5: at the offensive line position. Because you have three for

479
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Speaker 5: her first round picks on the old line, Dak is

480
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Speaker 5: going to be protected. They are going to run the ball.

481
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Speaker 5: You're not going to be able to load the box

482
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Speaker 5: for seven and eight guys because you have to worry

483
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Speaker 5: about these two guys on the outside.

484
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Speaker 9: Listen, I'm supposed to push back and be a Cowboys curmudgeon,

485
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Speaker 9: and I'm not. I will ask, how about them Cowboys?

486
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Speaker 9: I'm impressed? Dare I say, I'm surprised. I've been screaming

487
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Speaker 9: and begging for them to just wake up and make

488
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Speaker 9: a bold move. You know that that meme where there's

489
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Speaker 9: like a stick figure and he's got a little stick

490
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Speaker 9: and he's just poking.

491
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Speaker 5: Somebody's like, come on, do something. That's been us poking.

492
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Speaker 9: The Cowboys logo as Howie Roseman rules the world and

493
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Speaker 9: the Commanders have next and the Giants are reloading.

494
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Speaker 5: Cowboys underwhelming head.

495
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Speaker 9: Coach hire free agency draft, and now this is the

496
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Speaker 9: Lightning Bolts, and I have no pushback. They needed talent

497
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Speaker 9: at wide receiver. They got talent and wide receiver. And

498
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Speaker 9: I think this is incredible because if you look at

499
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Speaker 9: CD and Pickings, it's like they who did they get

500
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Speaker 9: CD to be his number two?

501
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Speaker 5: They got CD? They got himself. Look at the measurables.

502
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Speaker 5: I know there's a lot more complicated nuance in these players.

503
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Speaker 9: Wow, six two six three two hundred two hundred four

504
00:21:01,468 --> 00:21:04,228
Speaker 9: five four four seven, literally the exact same burd of

505
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Speaker 9: jump and pretty much exactly the same arm length physically.

506
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Speaker 9: It is carbon copies. It's Pam saying they're the same picture.

507
00:21:12,268 --> 00:21:15,108
Speaker 9: These guys are on either side of Dak maybe the

508
00:21:15,148 --> 00:21:19,468
Speaker 9: same side. They are out there physically imposing, making a

509
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Speaker 9: threat to the Eagles, to the Commanders.

510
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Speaker 5: They have a number two receiver, and more importantly, they

511
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Speaker 5: have a pulse.

512
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Speaker 9: They're doing something I've been screaming at the Jones family.

513
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Speaker 5: Guys.

514
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Speaker 9: Engage here, get in the fight. Don't just run the

515
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Speaker 9: same nonsense back they didn't.

516
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Speaker 5: I've called them.

517
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Speaker 9: The most boring team in the NFC East. They just

518
00:21:40,788 --> 00:21:43,468
Speaker 9: acquired maybe the least boring player in the league for

519
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Speaker 9: all of his faults, and we'll get into them, because

520
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Speaker 9: I don't think this is necessarily a doomsday horrible thing

521
00:21:49,388 --> 00:21:52,148
Speaker 9: for the Steelers, but it is a sign of life

522
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Speaker 9: for the Cowboys.

523
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Speaker 5: Was going now the needles are jumping.

524
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Speaker 9: I'm impressed. I'm a little excited. And they are far

525
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Speaker 9: more interesting and far more dynamic. George Pickens. It's not

526
00:22:04,828 --> 00:22:07,588
Speaker 9: always a parade and a picnic, guys, and there will

527
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Speaker 9: be a lot of attention on him, but he's incredibly talented.

528
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Speaker 9: They need it, they got it, and the fact that

529
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Speaker 9: they did something makes me get high five to the

530
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Speaker 9: Jones family.

531
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Speaker 5: Thank you.

532
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Speaker 4: And the last number to add to that side by

533
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Speaker 4: side is the fact that CD is just twenty six

534
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Speaker 4: and George Pickens is twenty four. So I mean, bubble

535
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Speaker 4: up with those two. I mean, that is incredible comparison

536
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Speaker 4: for that.

537
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Speaker 7: I mean, I know it's actually kind of mind blowing. Yeah,

538
00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:29,548
Speaker 7: they're that similar.

539
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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, this is good

540
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Speaker 8: for football.

541
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Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like the entire NFL loves when

542
00:22:34,228 --> 00:22:36,308
Speaker 7: the Cowboys are rolling on all cylinders and the fact

543
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Speaker 7: that they made this decision, everybody loves it. And Kyle,

544
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Speaker 7: you just hit the nail on the head. This issue

545
00:22:41,588 --> 00:22:43,308
Speaker 7: with the Cowboys every year is what are they going

546
00:22:43,388 --> 00:22:45,468
Speaker 7: to do? What are we doing, like make this decision

547
00:22:45,468 --> 00:22:47,148
Speaker 7: to really take them to the next level?

548
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Speaker 5: And this is it.

549
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Speaker 7: Also, I love it for this two number one picture,

550
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Speaker 7: Like you're seeing teams all over the league start to

551
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Speaker 7: make these moves that have two number one receivers, which

552
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Speaker 7: I think might become the new norm. And Isaiah you

553
00:23:00,228 --> 00:23:02,988
Speaker 7: said it. You described Pickens as like a number two.

554
00:23:03,028 --> 00:23:05,228
Speaker 7: I see this as a one in one situation, and

555
00:23:05,268 --> 00:23:07,148
Speaker 7: they're gonna have to figure out how to make that work.

556
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Speaker 8: The flip side of that.

557
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Speaker 7: Is when you have two number ones with number one

558
00:23:10,788 --> 00:23:14,428
Speaker 7: personalities and you have two receivers that naturally have big

559
00:23:14,468 --> 00:23:17,948
Speaker 7: personalities anyways, could become a little complicated. So I'm curious

560
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Speaker 7: to see how.

561
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Speaker 10: That works out.

562
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Speaker 2: Good football, Good football.

563
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Speaker 4: We'rea first going to talk about the Packers and then

564
00:23:42,268 --> 00:23:44,708
Speaker 4: we'll look at the whole division. Despite winning eleven regular

565
00:23:44,748 --> 00:23:47,588
Speaker 4: season games and making the playoffs last season, Matt Lafleur's

566
00:23:47,628 --> 00:23:50,668
Speaker 4: Packers finished third in the North and their quarterback Jordan

567
00:23:50,748 --> 00:23:53,028
Speaker 4: Love threw three picks and their wild card loss to

568
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Speaker 4: the Eagles.

569
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Speaker 3: Rough Lafloor enters your seven. Jordan Love entering year three

570
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Speaker 3: as a starter.

571
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Speaker 4: Does this mean that it is demanded that it is

572
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Speaker 4: time now for Laflora and Love to make that quote

573
00:24:02,948 --> 00:24:04,068
Speaker 4: unquote massive leaf.

574
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Speaker 3: They're going to make that big leap together.

575
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Speaker 5: Must say, I hope so. I honestly, it's just I'm

576
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Speaker 5: not convinced hit of Jordan Love. I think that he's

577
00:24:12,188 --> 00:24:14,788
Speaker 5: a good quarterback, I don't believe that he's made the

578
00:24:14,908 --> 00:24:17,868
Speaker 5: leap that everybody has expected him to make Maybe that's

579
00:24:17,868 --> 00:24:20,148
Speaker 5: because of those who've come before him. Maybe that's because

580
00:24:20,188 --> 00:24:22,668
Speaker 5: of Bread Farr, maybe that's because of Aaron Rodgers. And

581
00:24:22,708 --> 00:24:25,108
Speaker 5: now is Jordan Love, and it just hasn't been enough

582
00:24:25,108 --> 00:24:27,468
Speaker 5: of a jump. Now they're always in the conversation. You

583
00:24:27,508 --> 00:24:29,628
Speaker 5: have to give them that respect to that combination of

584
00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:32,588
Speaker 5: Lafleur and lovers there. But they have to get some

585
00:24:32,588 --> 00:24:34,628
Speaker 5: weapons around them. They have to keep him healthy, they

586
00:24:34,628 --> 00:24:37,468
Speaker 5: have to be consistent enough, and they need something else

587
00:24:37,508 --> 00:24:39,628
Speaker 5: to push them over the edge. I'm not sure if

588
00:24:39,668 --> 00:24:41,988
Speaker 5: it's going to be this year, but they've been heading

589
00:24:41,988 --> 00:24:42,628
Speaker 5: in the right direction.

590
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm totally shocked by the answer. Jordan Love has evolved.

591
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Speaker 10: I mean, go back to Week three against San Francisco

592
00:24:48,788 --> 00:24:51,468
Speaker 10: forty nine ershen we dropped four touchdowns on the Niners

593
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Speaker 10: and by the way he finished, this office finished top

594
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Speaker 10: five in the NFL. Lafour has done a great job

595
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Speaker 10: of involved and now the goal is not to become stagnan.

596
00:25:00,588 --> 00:25:02,028
Speaker 10: Last year they were able to lean on the run

597
00:25:02,068 --> 00:25:04,908
Speaker 10: game was Josh Jacobs in this office line. Now the

598
00:25:05,028 --> 00:25:07,868
Speaker 10: question for this Green Bay team is the defense really

599
00:25:07,948 --> 00:25:10,268
Speaker 10: with this four to three scheme, led by Jeff Afflee.

600
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Speaker 10: Can they continue to get after the quarterback and make

601
00:25:12,548 --> 00:25:14,628
Speaker 10: players in the back end. That has to be the goal.

602
00:25:14,708 --> 00:25:16,548
Speaker 10: I love Kay Walker and what he's able to do,

603
00:25:16,788 --> 00:25:19,948
Speaker 10: but overall, Jordan Love has a rived. The bottom line

604
00:25:19,988 --> 00:25:21,588
Speaker 10: is when he gets the playoff.

605
00:25:21,148 --> 00:25:22,628
Speaker 5: Time, can he go to all the way?

606
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Speaker 10: And Laflour has to continue to put more in the

607
00:25:25,668 --> 00:25:28,628
Speaker 10: playbook where he can expand and get to a position

608
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Speaker 10: where he's now considered one of the elite. I love

609
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Speaker 10: everything about Jordan Love. He has the weapons, he has

610
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Speaker 10: the run game. He has to win games. One of

611
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Speaker 10: the games that broke my heart last year was the

612
00:25:37,068 --> 00:25:39,828
Speaker 10: loss to Detroit and the Week sixteen loss against the Vikings.

613
00:25:40,028 --> 00:25:41,948
Speaker 10: Those are games they needed to win and they weren't

614
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Speaker 10: able to do so.

615
00:25:42,868 --> 00:25:45,788
Speaker 5: But overall, this team is my dark horse.

616
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Speaker 10: Like I be honest, I believe the division is extremely votable.

617
00:25:49,108 --> 00:25:52,108
Speaker 10: Why because Ben Johnson's gone, Aaron Glennon is New York.

618
00:25:52,188 --> 00:25:54,668
Speaker 10: You talk about the Minnesota Vikers, nobody knows what JJ

619
00:25:54,748 --> 00:25:57,428
Speaker 10: McCarthy is. You talk about the Chicago Bears. I love

620
00:25:57,508 --> 00:25:59,308
Speaker 10: Caleb Williams and they yes, they have given him a

621
00:25:59,348 --> 00:26:01,908
Speaker 10: new offensive line, but overall they still have to figure

622
00:26:01,908 --> 00:26:03,748
Speaker 10: out who they are and what their identity is. There's

623
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Speaker 10: one team that he knows who they are and has

624
00:26:05,708 --> 00:26:07,308
Speaker 10: continued to have successory after the year, and.

625
00:26:07,268 --> 00:26:08,388
Speaker 5: That's the Green Bay Packers.

626
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Speaker 10: So when you tell me Jordan Love hasn't a rob, oh,

627
00:26:10,588 --> 00:26:12,628
Speaker 10: he's a rob. He just has to go get it

628
00:26:12,628 --> 00:26:14,348
Speaker 10: like the other league quarterbacks in the league.

629
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Speaker 5: What do you think? What do you think Isaiah has

630
00:26:16,068 --> 00:26:18,508
Speaker 5: he arrived? I just don't feel as if I'm not

631
00:26:18,628 --> 00:26:21,508
Speaker 5: threatening by Jordan Love. I respect him as a player,

632
00:26:21,748 --> 00:26:23,628
Speaker 5: but when Jordan Love steps on the field, I'm not

633
00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:26,028
Speaker 5: concerned about what he's going to do to my team.

634
00:26:26,388 --> 00:26:28,908
Speaker 5: So that from that regard, I'm not saying nothing about

635
00:26:28,908 --> 00:26:30,788
Speaker 5: his stats. I'm not saying that he hasn't been consistent.

636
00:26:31,028 --> 00:26:33,628
Speaker 5: I just don't see him as a threat in terms

637
00:26:33,628 --> 00:26:35,628
Speaker 5: of that red dot guy that you have to circle

638
00:26:35,668 --> 00:26:38,588
Speaker 5: whenever you're watching film. And he has a great complimentary

639
00:26:38,588 --> 00:26:41,068
Speaker 5: back in Josh Jacobs, and they're doing great things. But again,

640
00:26:41,108 --> 00:26:43,228
Speaker 5: when he steps on the field, I'm not concerned about

641
00:26:43,268 --> 00:26:44,868
Speaker 5: him making the play that's going to break our back.

642
00:26:44,948 --> 00:26:47,948
Speaker 9: Our old friend Jason mccordy used to always talk about

643
00:26:48,068 --> 00:26:50,028
Speaker 9: this one quarterback who I'm not going to miss in

644
00:26:50,348 --> 00:26:53,708
Speaker 9: by NN he's currently in the NFC, and Jason would

645
00:26:53,708 --> 00:26:56,948
Speaker 9: say that's a guy when that week you're not really

646
00:26:56,948 --> 00:26:59,428
Speaker 9: worried about him, Like he's fine, he's a good player,

647
00:26:59,428 --> 00:27:01,588
Speaker 9: he gets a job done, but you're not like, oh,

648
00:27:01,668 --> 00:27:03,308
Speaker 9: we got this guy this week, like if you were

649
00:27:03,348 --> 00:27:05,908
Speaker 9: facing Rogers or break Year, whoever Jason was facing during

650
00:27:05,908 --> 00:27:07,908
Speaker 9: his career. And that always stuck with me because there

651
00:27:07,988 --> 00:27:10,668
Speaker 9: is a specific species of quarterback who you know, they

652
00:27:10,708 --> 00:27:13,388
Speaker 9: got the numbers and they got the career and the experience,

653
00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:15,868
Speaker 9: but they're not really scaring anyone.

654
00:27:15,988 --> 00:27:18,068
Speaker 5: So what I'm seeing here in between the two of

655
00:27:18,108 --> 00:27:21,748
Speaker 5: you is that Love is good. Like is he a killer?

656
00:27:21,868 --> 00:27:23,748
Speaker 9: Is he the guy that if you are a defensive

657
00:27:23,788 --> 00:27:26,588
Speaker 9: back facing the Packers that week, you're saying, oh damn,

658
00:27:26,588 --> 00:27:27,628
Speaker 9: it's Jordan Love week?

659
00:27:27,748 --> 00:27:29,508
Speaker 5: Or is he just a very nice player? Is that

660
00:27:29,548 --> 00:27:29,948
Speaker 5: where we're at?

661
00:27:30,068 --> 00:27:33,108
Speaker 10: Yeah? I think that's that's not fair because, like I said,

662
00:27:33,188 --> 00:27:35,028
Speaker 10: you we all talk about that playoff game in Dallas.

663
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:37,108
Speaker 10: You understand Dallas Cowboys with eight and eight and no

664
00:27:37,228 --> 00:27:39,748
Speaker 10: at home. I had a twelve and five and nobody

665
00:27:39,748 --> 00:27:40,668
Speaker 10: gave Green Bay a chance.

666
00:27:40,748 --> 00:27:42,548
Speaker 5: It was Jordan Love and Company.

667
00:27:42,268 --> 00:27:44,148
Speaker 10: That came in there and won that game and dog

668
00:27:44,188 --> 00:27:46,868
Speaker 10: walked the Cowboys back back home, right, and then you

669
00:27:46,868 --> 00:27:48,428
Speaker 10: talk about I remember like they go back to the

670
00:27:48,428 --> 00:27:51,228
Speaker 10: Thanksgiving game where they had to go in Detroit.

671
00:27:50,868 --> 00:27:52,948
Speaker 5: A year ago and they had to win that game

672
00:27:53,028 --> 00:27:53,748
Speaker 5: open and drive.

673
00:27:53,828 --> 00:27:57,548
Speaker 10: It was Jordan Love to Christian Watkins, bang split open

674
00:27:57,588 --> 00:28:00,148
Speaker 10: the game time after time. Jordan Love makes plays with

675
00:28:00,188 --> 00:28:02,988
Speaker 10: his arm and his feet, and he's durable. He's dealt

676
00:28:03,028 --> 00:28:05,228
Speaker 10: with some serious injuries and being able to stand up

677
00:28:05,268 --> 00:28:07,548
Speaker 10: and play week after week. So when we sit here

678
00:28:07,628 --> 00:28:09,548
Speaker 10: talk about him as like, oh, he's not scary.

679
00:28:09,748 --> 00:28:10,068
Speaker 5: You know what.

680
00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:12,268
Speaker 10: Dad Prescott felt the same way, and then he was

681
00:28:12,388 --> 00:28:14,228
Speaker 10: in Mike waved Dinners at Home. Why Jordah Love and

682
00:28:14,268 --> 00:28:16,628
Speaker 10: Company continue to walk on. So you know what, you

683
00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,148
Speaker 10: don't have to be afraid, but you need to be

684
00:28:18,188 --> 00:28:21,268
Speaker 10: aware that Jordan Love is him and he deserves his respect.

685
00:28:21,348 --> 00:28:23,388
Speaker 4: Okay, the microwave dinner game has stepped up though in

686
00:28:23,428 --> 00:28:25,908
Speaker 4: the last ten years. It really is that's not as

687
00:28:25,988 --> 00:28:30,268
Speaker 4: much not as much hungry man, So good Kyle. You

688
00:28:30,308 --> 00:28:33,468
Speaker 4: said two things last hour that lent me to instead

689
00:28:33,508 --> 00:28:35,588
Speaker 4: wanting to rank the NFC North and it was the

690
00:28:35,628 --> 00:28:38,548
Speaker 4: following we ranked our top three NFC quarterbacks, and Kyle,

691
00:28:38,588 --> 00:28:40,508
Speaker 4: you put Jared Goff as your number one in the

692
00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:43,948
Speaker 4: NFC right now, So that really lends itself to your respects,

693
00:28:43,948 --> 00:28:46,388
Speaker 4: appreciation you have for maybe the division and what GoF

694
00:28:46,428 --> 00:28:49,108
Speaker 4: does for the Lions. You also said earlier in the

695
00:28:49,108 --> 00:28:52,588
Speaker 4: hour that you feel nothing about the twenty twenty five

696
00:28:52,668 --> 00:28:54,708
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys. You just don't know yet. It's not good,

697
00:28:54,708 --> 00:28:57,188
Speaker 4: it's not bad. You feel nothing. Rank your NFC North

698
00:28:57,188 --> 00:28:59,388
Speaker 4: teams right now, and how good you feel about their

699
00:28:59,388 --> 00:29:02,068
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five Okay? Is that a good qualifier for you?

700
00:29:02,148 --> 00:29:02,348
Speaker 5: Kyle?

701
00:29:02,388 --> 00:29:02,748
Speaker 3: You got it.

702
00:29:02,868 --> 00:29:05,988
Speaker 4: You feel warm, fuzzy about the NFC North. Ranked the

703
00:29:06,028 --> 00:29:08,348
Speaker 4: teams accordingly, Isaiah, you are already done with yours.

704
00:29:09,268 --> 00:29:12,508
Speaker 5: All right, here we go. I'm gonna go with number

705
00:29:12,508 --> 00:29:14,668
Speaker 5: four on my list. I'm gonna go with the Chicago

706
00:29:14,708 --> 00:29:17,148
Speaker 5: Bears and being they just have the most to prove

707
00:29:17,148 --> 00:29:20,068
Speaker 5: out of any team in this particular division, and obviously

708
00:29:20,108 --> 00:29:22,108
Speaker 5: they have a lot of juice right now with Ben

709
00:29:22,148 --> 00:29:24,308
Speaker 5: Johnson coming in. There's a lot of excitement, okay, But

710
00:29:24,588 --> 00:29:25,868
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, they still have to

711
00:29:25,868 --> 00:29:27,388
Speaker 5: go out there and produce. So that's why they're at

712
00:29:27,388 --> 00:29:30,028
Speaker 5: the number four spot. At the number three spot, I'm

713
00:29:30,108 --> 00:29:33,508
Speaker 5: going with the Minnesota Vikings. Okay, and the Minnesota Vikings

714
00:29:33,548 --> 00:29:36,628
Speaker 5: obviously have changed quarterbacks. We know what they're capable of doing.

715
00:29:37,068 --> 00:29:39,628
Speaker 5: Their defensive solid their offense has been productive, but they

716
00:29:39,628 --> 00:29:42,188
Speaker 5: have a new QB, so we have to wait and see, right,

717
00:29:42,188 --> 00:29:44,348
Speaker 5: we have to wait and see exactly what young JJ

718
00:29:44,428 --> 00:29:47,308
Speaker 5: McCarthy's gonna do. And then right here the Bears, I mean,

719
00:29:47,468 --> 00:29:49,788
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, the Packers. Obviously, we just finished talking about them.

720
00:29:49,828 --> 00:29:51,908
Speaker 5: Jordan Love has done good things. Lafleur, those guys are

721
00:29:51,948 --> 00:29:54,788
Speaker 5: always consistent, They're always in the fight. You're always gonna

722
00:29:54,788 --> 00:29:56,588
Speaker 5: find them in the playoffs. Are one of those sneaky

723
00:29:56,588 --> 00:29:59,588
Speaker 5: teams that doesn't do anything necessarily flashy, but they're always

724
00:29:59,788 --> 00:30:01,988
Speaker 5: gonna be at the top of the league. And then

725
00:30:02,028 --> 00:30:04,188
Speaker 5: my very last one, obviously is gonna be the Lions. Okay,

726
00:30:04,788 --> 00:30:06,988
Speaker 5: there's been a lot of change in Detroit, but you

727
00:30:07,108 --> 00:30:09,108
Speaker 5: still got to go knock those guys off. They have

728
00:30:09,188 --> 00:30:11,988
Speaker 5: a culture, they have an identity, and they have been consistent.

729
00:30:12,108 --> 00:30:14,828
Speaker 5: Now can they do it again without their offensive defensive

730
00:30:14,828 --> 00:30:15,868
Speaker 5: coordinators being in the mix.

731
00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:19,748
Speaker 10: I'm trying my best with this. I'm horrible with paper.

732
00:30:19,988 --> 00:30:22,388
Speaker 10: You said, I'm gonna listen number four, Like I stated

733
00:30:22,548 --> 00:30:24,308
Speaker 10: J J. McCarthy, I don't know who he is. There's

734
00:30:24,308 --> 00:30:26,108
Speaker 10: a lot of questions about his knee. There's still that

735
00:30:26,228 --> 00:30:28,228
Speaker 10: still yet to be proved. I think this defense has evolved,

736
00:30:28,268 --> 00:30:31,228
Speaker 10: especially with hard Graves and other additions. Uh And I

737
00:30:31,308 --> 00:30:33,668
Speaker 10: like Brian Lafleur and how he gets after that. Number three.

738
00:30:33,748 --> 00:30:35,708
Speaker 10: I'm struggling with this paper. I've never seen them romance

739
00:30:35,828 --> 00:30:36,308
Speaker 10: struggle with.

740
00:30:37,868 --> 00:30:39,588
Speaker 5: The Bears man. I love Ben Johnson.

741
00:30:39,588 --> 00:30:42,828
Speaker 10: Hopefully he can really make Caleb Williams step up to

742
00:30:42,868 --> 00:30:45,188
Speaker 10: the next level. They have all the pieces defensively, they

743
00:30:45,228 --> 00:30:47,028
Speaker 10: have to leave be a lot more stout, but they

744
00:30:47,068 --> 00:30:49,468
Speaker 10: are a question in the works. I got the Lions man,

745
00:30:49,588 --> 00:30:52,308
Speaker 10: like like I said, stated, they have the pieces. They

746
00:30:52,308 --> 00:30:54,868
Speaker 10: can talk about Jared Goff, you talk about offensively, they're created,

747
00:30:54,868 --> 00:30:57,188
Speaker 10: they have the offensive line. Dan Campbell is going to

748
00:30:57,268 --> 00:30:59,628
Speaker 10: have to step up and figure out what's the loss of.

749
00:30:59,548 --> 00:31:01,588
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson that significant?

750
00:31:01,708 --> 00:31:04,068
Speaker 10: Can they really step up in a situation where they

751
00:31:04,108 --> 00:31:05,588
Speaker 10: haven't taking a step backwards, where they.

752
00:31:05,548 --> 00:31:06,308
Speaker 5: Can go forward.

753
00:31:06,628 --> 00:31:09,668
Speaker 10: I love Jared golf last two years. He just hasn't

754
00:31:09,708 --> 00:31:11,428
Speaker 10: been able to get them over to hump and land

755
00:31:11,508 --> 00:31:13,948
Speaker 10: in a super Bowl, So that worris me. But number one,

756
00:31:13,948 --> 00:31:15,548
Speaker 10: this is the home ers team in the division. That's

757
00:31:15,588 --> 00:31:16,748
Speaker 10: the Packers, go back go.

758
00:31:17,148 --> 00:31:19,828
Speaker 5: I love Jorda love, I love Mike Lafleur. I love

759
00:31:19,868 --> 00:31:20,548
Speaker 5: this defense.

760
00:31:20,748 --> 00:31:22,268
Speaker 10: I think right now it is just a matter of

761
00:31:22,268 --> 00:31:24,828
Speaker 10: time before they break open and land in the NFC

762
00:31:24,948 --> 00:31:25,988
Speaker 10: Championship and win the game.

763
00:31:26,268 --> 00:31:28,228
Speaker 9: Was there a toughest one you had, the one you

764
00:31:28,228 --> 00:31:30,188
Speaker 9: were really battling about. Put him in four or three,

765
00:31:30,308 --> 00:31:32,108
Speaker 9: like the one that bothered you the most.

766
00:31:32,228 --> 00:31:35,068
Speaker 5: Probably lions sry the lion, Yeah as much. All right.

767
00:31:35,348 --> 00:31:38,668
Speaker 9: So when we're in the post one hundred humans versus

768
00:31:38,948 --> 00:31:42,028
Speaker 9: fighting a gorilla world, I'm ranking the NFC NORD teams

769
00:31:42,068 --> 00:31:43,548
Speaker 9: according to who would win in a fight.

770
00:31:43,428 --> 00:31:46,388
Speaker 5: Jamie, So I have four. I have a packer that's

771
00:31:46,388 --> 00:31:47,868
Speaker 5: a meat packer. He's not doing much.

772
00:31:48,028 --> 00:31:50,588
Speaker 9: A Viking, although a skilled warrior with spears and all that.

773
00:31:50,828 --> 00:31:52,308
Speaker 5: It's very heavy here.

774
00:31:52,548 --> 00:31:54,588
Speaker 9: And then I looked at a website called animal hype

775
00:31:54,668 --> 00:31:57,068
Speaker 9: dot com and they say that the African lion would

776
00:31:57,108 --> 00:31:58,108
Speaker 9: beat a grizzly bear.

777
00:31:58,228 --> 00:32:00,788
Speaker 5: So this is my personal ranking. I even wrote the

778
00:32:00,828 --> 00:32:03,348
Speaker 5: topic at the top there, so as it's not misconstrued.

779
00:32:03,428 --> 00:32:05,508
Speaker 9: We haven't seen these these teams play a game in

780
00:32:05,548 --> 00:32:07,628
Speaker 9: like three months, will see him in another four months.

781
00:32:07,748 --> 00:32:10,148
Speaker 9: So this is the important list and in the gorilla world,

782
00:32:10,228 --> 00:32:11,468
Speaker 9: this is where I have the NFC North.

783
00:32:11,548 --> 00:32:13,348
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful homage to Mike Leitch Kyle.

784
00:32:13,388 --> 00:32:14,748
Speaker 3: We appreciate what you just did.

785
00:32:14,828 --> 00:32:17,068
Speaker 4: Really, I just had to check Wikipedia to make sure

786
00:32:17,108 --> 00:32:18,268
Speaker 4: you didn't go to Utah State.

787
00:32:18,308 --> 00:32:19,428
Speaker 3: What's up with you in the Packers?

788
00:32:19,468 --> 00:32:19,588
Speaker 10: Man?

789
00:32:19,668 --> 00:32:21,508
Speaker 3: Are you a Jordan Why are you looking at Jordan Love?

790
00:32:21,508 --> 00:32:21,708
Speaker 5: Guy?

791
00:32:21,748 --> 00:32:22,228
Speaker 2: What is this?

792
00:32:22,508 --> 00:32:24,908
Speaker 10: Because the take don't lie and I see you guys

793
00:32:24,948 --> 00:32:25,948
Speaker 10: are on watching football.

794
00:32:28,068 --> 00:32:32,508
Speaker 5: The man is delivered. You delivered, And so as we

795
00:32:32,588 --> 00:32:34,308
Speaker 5: sit here we kind of say, what you know.

796
00:32:34,268 --> 00:32:37,148
Speaker 10: The Packers a mid I'm like, what are you talking about?

797
00:32:37,188 --> 00:32:39,388
Speaker 10: Like the last two years, I've seen this team take

798
00:32:39,388 --> 00:32:41,188
Speaker 10: the step off the step. I've seen Jordan Love play

799
00:32:41,228 --> 00:32:43,708
Speaker 10: through injuries. I've seen Jordan Love pretty much get canceled

800
00:32:43,708 --> 00:32:45,788
Speaker 10: out before you even stepped on the field when Aaron

801
00:32:45,868 --> 00:32:47,788
Speaker 10: Rodgers was at the Helm. So now I'm looking at

802
00:32:47,788 --> 00:32:49,988
Speaker 10: Matt before, I'm looking at this defense that's gotten better

803
00:32:50,028 --> 00:32:52,868
Speaker 10: with Joe Xander kway Walker. I'm looking at this office

804
00:32:52,908 --> 00:32:55,508
Speaker 10: line that's pretty probably one of the biggest in the league,

805
00:32:55,668 --> 00:32:59,228
Speaker 10: dominate up front with the addition of Josh Jacobs who

806
00:32:59,308 --> 00:33:00,468
Speaker 10: had over a thousand yards.

807
00:33:00,548 --> 00:33:02,348
Speaker 5: I'm looking at this office right now.

808
00:33:02,508 --> 00:33:06,228
Speaker 10: Continue to average twenty six points a game, twenty to

809
00:33:06,268 --> 00:33:08,268
Speaker 10: twenty six eight points a game, twenty six to twenty

810
00:33:08,268 --> 00:33:10,108
Speaker 10: eight points a game, and yet we sit here like

811
00:33:10,148 --> 00:33:11,908
Speaker 10: the Packers are some average team.

812
00:33:12,188 --> 00:33:13,788
Speaker 5: I don't know what else you need to see.

813
00:33:13,868 --> 00:33:15,828
Speaker 10: You needed them to beat the Detroit Lions, they did.

814
00:33:15,988 --> 00:33:18,108
Speaker 10: You needed them to beat their Surfrance scoot forty nine ers,

815
00:33:18,148 --> 00:33:20,068
Speaker 10: they did. You needed them to get it done in

816
00:33:20,108 --> 00:33:21,948
Speaker 10: Minnesota's when they lost to Minnesota.

817
00:33:21,988 --> 00:33:22,468
Speaker 8: I get that.

818
00:33:22,668 --> 00:33:24,068
Speaker 5: For overall, Jordan.

819
00:33:23,828 --> 00:33:26,668
Speaker 10: Love and company has showed up week after week and

820
00:33:26,708 --> 00:33:27,828
Speaker 10: they trust trust me.

821
00:33:28,228 --> 00:33:29,068
Speaker 5: This is personal.

822
00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:32,988
Speaker 10: Why because in twenty ten when they're Stealers versus the

823
00:33:33,028 --> 00:33:36,028
Speaker 10: Green Bay Packers in Dallas, we lost to Aaron Rodgers

824
00:33:36,068 --> 00:33:36,908
Speaker 10: and the Green Bay package.

825
00:33:37,028 --> 00:33:38,148
Speaker 5: So I'm not a cheese head.

826
00:33:38,468 --> 00:33:41,868
Speaker 10: I just really recognized real and real recognized game. And

827
00:33:41,908 --> 00:33:43,588
Speaker 10: that's what my heart is at right now. I don't

828
00:33:43,628 --> 00:33:45,748
Speaker 10: know why y'all sit here and continue to look at

829
00:33:45,788 --> 00:33:48,428
Speaker 10: Jordan Love, as he's not that guy when you talk

830
00:33:48,468 --> 00:33:49,668
Speaker 10: about elite quarterbacks.

831
00:33:49,788 --> 00:33:51,308
Speaker 5: He has elite level tape.

832
00:33:51,468 --> 00:33:53,468
Speaker 10: Turn it on and watch it before you make an

833
00:33:53,508 --> 00:33:56,388
Speaker 10: asinine comment as to where Jordan Love is and who

834
00:33:56,388 --> 00:33:57,588
Speaker 10: the Green Bay Packers is.

835
00:34:03,388 --> 00:34:05,028
Speaker 2: Good mon football