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Well, 10 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: the Jets stepped up in class against the New England Patriots, 11 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: and the Pets handed it to him a thirty three 12 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: to nothing. I'm onnding football, I mean, I mean disappointing 13 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: is a is an understatement for that game. Uh, just 14 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: a fantastic showing by the Patriots. They did a great 15 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: job of running their offense. Defensively, you know, the top 16 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: defense in the league really showed the world why they 17 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: are the top defense. And uh, and the Jets couldn't respond. 18 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: They could never bounce back. Uh. Sam Donald couldn't get 19 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: into a groove, throwing four interceptions, running the ball and 20 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback was an issue. Uh, the Jets had 21 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: a problem with it yesterday. Yeah, so many of high 22 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: hopes after the Jets won their first victory of the season. 23 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean that took home their first victory of the 24 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: season against the Dallas Cowboys the week before. Sam Donald 25 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: throwing for three d thirty eight yards and two touchdowns 26 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: in that game, getting seven different receivers the football, Robbie 27 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: Anderson five catches on hundred twenty five yards, Jamison Crowder 28 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: six catches nine yards, and Damarius Thomas getting into the 29 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: mix as well. But Donald was unable to duplicate that 30 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: rhythm as we saw it constantly against the Patriots. They 31 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: were sending pressure and the Jets were allowing free runners 32 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: and Donald was never able to get comfortable in that pocket. Yeah, 33 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean New England did a great job of mixing 34 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: up their pressures yesterday. Uh. You know, they're bringing safeties, 35 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: bringing linebackers, dropping guys back into coverage. You know, it 36 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: reminded me back in uh in oh six when we 37 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: played the Patriots. Now, there was a lot of defenses 38 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: where we would have eleven men on the line of 39 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: scrimmage and whether we dropped back into zone or brought pressure. 40 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: It confused Tom Brady and that's difficult against a young 41 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: offensive line to pick up In New Orleans. Excuse me, 42 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: New England found Uh, it's something wrong with the Jets 43 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: offensive line in their protection and they just kept dialing 44 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: it up until they got to fix and unfortunately for 45 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: the Jets, they never fixed it. Uh. Inside the Jets 46 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: is presented by e Y Building a Better Working World, 47 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: Eric Eric Ellen and Eric Coleman here at Vanderbilt Sports 48 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: and Spirits. Donald career high five turnovers, four interceptions, Three 49 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: of them came in Patriots territory. Again, what is the 50 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: answer when a team like New England is going to 51 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: pressure you all day? Like Adam Gates said, no surprises. 52 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: We knew they were coming. And a lot of times 53 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: covers zero. You're used to be a defensive back in 54 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: the National Football League. What does cover zero mean offensively? 55 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: And what is the counter? Well, cover zero means there's 56 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: no help. There's man man across the board. Everyone else 57 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: who's not in coverage is blitzing. And so even if 58 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: your man is say your man is a running back 59 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: and I'm the linebacker, my man is a running back. 60 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: He blocks, I'm adding in the blitz, so everyone's coming there. 61 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: It's a tough way to defend because you're always bringing 62 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 1: one more than they can block, and that that unblocked person. 63 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: The responsibility falls on the quarterback to get the ball 64 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: out quick and to stop that you have to use 65 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot of short screens. You have to do a 66 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: lot of quick passes. Uh, you know, try to run 67 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: some draws to get past the blitz because there is 68 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: no second level when they blitz everyone. So, uh, you know, 69 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: the Jets were really never able to find the answer, 70 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: find the solution for that blitz, and unfortunately, you know, 71 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: it forced Sam Donald to make some throws that he 72 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: would that are out of his character. Yeah, and then 73 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: you hear offensive coordinators and play callers a lot of 74 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: times say identifying the mic points, especially against blitz, is 75 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: because setting up all your protections. So what does that 76 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 1: What does the quarterback have to do when he gets 77 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: to the line to tell his lineman. Yeah, well, I 78 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: mean it's tough. You know, you have to that. That's 79 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: where your film study comes in. That's where the tendencies 80 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: of the other team come in. Uh, you know, identifying 81 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: that Mike is is identifying the center of the blitz 82 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: and telling your offensive line which way are we going 83 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: to slide? And the Patriots understand all these rules, and 84 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: so they what they would do is line up some 85 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: guys on on on offensive lineman. They would blitz him 86 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: for a couple of steps and then drop them back 87 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: into coverage. And that just caused all kind of confusion 88 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: for the offensive line. That's how you get the free runners, 89 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, I got this guy. He 90 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: steps up a couple of steps and then he leaves. 91 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: All right, now he's not blitzing. Someone else's blitzing and overloading, 92 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: and now you have a free runner. The Patriots are 93 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: masters at breaking tendencies, aren't they. Yeah, they are every week. 94 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: They are a chameleon. They change who they are depending 95 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: on the opponent they do. They do a great job, 96 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, offensively, they do that. Especially. They're gonna they're 97 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: gonna look at your film, you know, your last four games, 98 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: and see how you got beat What plays did you 99 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: get beat on? Touchdowns are big plays, and they're gonna 100 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: install those plays into their offense. And so, uh, it 101 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: makes it tough to prepare for. And what you have 102 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: to do is go over all the mistakes you made 103 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: and correct them and talk through them and understand that 104 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: there has to be communication before the play or you're 105 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna get burned. Uh. You know, I always tell the 106 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: story back, and I want to say it was oh 107 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: seven we played the Patriots. They played the week before 108 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: they played the Minnesota Vikings. They came out in five 109 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: wide receivers and threw the ball fifty two times. And 110 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: at that time, you know, in two thousand and seven, 111 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: that was unheard of, you know, for them to throw 112 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: the ball that many times. So the whole week, we 113 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: were activating defensive backs, we were putting in dime packages, 114 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: just getting ready for extra coverage. What did they do 115 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: on Monday Night football? They came out in three tight ends, 116 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: two running backs, and ran the ball for the first 117 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: two drives and ran it right down our throat. Because 118 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: we weren't prepared to stop the run. We were we 119 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: were preparing just to stop the pass. It was a 120 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: snowball effect. And we're off to Brandon Copeland about that 121 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: here in our next segment. But the Patriots came out, 122 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: they had the ball for about nine minutes. It seemed 123 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: like they had the ball for the entire first quarter, 124 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: but the Jets had opportunities get off the field, but 125 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots kept on converting early on third down. I 126 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: think at one point early a second quarter there are 127 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: five is seven on third down and one on one 128 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: on fourth down. Yeah, I mean, and that has to 129 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: be frustrating for your defense, and you know, as a team. 130 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure listen, they got embarrassed. This was not the 131 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: performance that they wanted to put out there on the 132 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: field in front of the world. But when you go 133 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: back and look at the film, i mean, Sam Donald 134 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: having three turnovers in the red zone, well, at least 135 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: you got down to the red zone. You get rid 136 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: of those and and maybe convert those touchdowns. It's a 137 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: different ball game. You look at defense, you get off 138 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: the field on third down, you prevent some of those 139 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: long drives. You know, you the breakdowns and coverage get 140 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: you off the field and get your offense another opportunity. 141 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: So there's as bad as it was, there's always something, 142 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: there's always something you can take out of that film 143 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: and improve on. So I'm sure there's a lot of 144 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: coaching going on right now. Can we stop making declarations 145 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: about Sam Donald every time the guy picks up the 146 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: football because yes, he was fantastic against the Dallas Cowboys, 147 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: but that doesn't automatically mean that he's going to Canton 148 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: and gonna join Kevin mcwai in the Hall of Fame. 149 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Equally said on the other side of the spectrum, you 150 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: can't be oh, we gotta write this kid off because 151 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: they had five turnovers against the Patriots and he was 152 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: out of sorts. Now you can't do that, you know, 153 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: and that you in the NFL. You know, I used 154 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: to have coaches tell me you have to stay even kill, 155 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: stay at the same page because you're never as good 156 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: as they say you are, and you're never as bad 157 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: as they say you are, So you have to What 158 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: you have to do is is evaluate yourself. Take the 159 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: same approach every week, continue to chop wood and grind 160 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: to get better and improve on your mistakes, because that's 161 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: all you can really control is your play. And it's 162 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: a what have you done for me lately? Lead? Everyone 163 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: forgets they have am me about what happened in the past. 164 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: All they care about is what you did on Sunday, 165 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: and that's all that matters. I know, you didn't play 166 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: the position you were trying to mess with the quarterback 167 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: during your heyday. But how much of a challenge is 168 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: this for Adam Gaze right now? Because Sam Donald is 169 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: a wonderful athlete and he can make all the throws 170 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: on the football field. With that being said, at times 171 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: his athleticism will take over and maybe he'll try to 172 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: make a throw that just isn't there no matter what 173 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: his physical capabilities are. His feet might not be set 174 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: or he's throwing off the back foot. Well, what we 175 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: all have to understand is that this was Sam donald 176 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: sixteen game starting as a quarterback, and he still has 177 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: a lot of room to grow. I mean, he's he's 178 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: he's a young player and this is a great teaching 179 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: moment right now? Is hard of a pill? Is this? 180 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: This game is a swallow? Sam has to go back 181 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: and look watch this film. You know it's gonna be 182 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tortured saying are watching yourself make these mistakes, 183 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: But you have to watch the film and understand why 184 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: you made these mistakes. What did they do to attack you? 185 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: Because other teams is a copycat league, You're gonna see 186 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: these same blitzeres, But can you see these same coverage 187 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: as again, but stand on that point, can you grow 188 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: off of this because you're not gonna see another defense 189 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: like this probably over the final ten games in New 190 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: England Attacksia in so many different ways. Like when you're 191 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville this week, you know they're probably gonna stick 192 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: to their fore man front play coverage in the back. Yeah. 193 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: But but what you do is you go back to 194 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: the values. You go back to the fundamentals. Every play 195 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: has to be communicated, the protection has to be communicated. 196 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: You have to you know, as a quarterback, you have 197 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: to have your feet set if you want to deliver 198 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: the ball the right way. And Sam knows that, you know, 199 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: these are things that that have got him to this level. 200 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: You have to go back to your fundamentals and rely 201 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: on those because those are the things that will carry 202 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: you through all the adversity and through the tough times. 203 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: And the whole team has to really look at them, 204 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: look themselves in the mirror and understand we have to 205 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: forget about this game. We have to learn from it. 206 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: But we have another opponent coming up. We have a 207 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: few games that we can get some things going and 208 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: right the ship. Yeah, and make no mistake, the Jets 209 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: gave an honest assessment of what happened Monday night, the 210 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: shutout lost in New England. Patriots Adam Gates was the 211 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: first one who addressed the media and he said we 212 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: were brutal and that was across the board, and he 213 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: included himself in that. Next Yeah. I mean, you know, 214 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: like my good friend and friend Ray Lucas always says, 215 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, you can't point the finger in these these situations. 216 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: You gotta point the thumb, and you have to go 217 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: back and evaluate what could I have done better? And 218 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: every man in that locker room has to go back 219 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: and ask, you know, was my preparation right? You know, 220 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: was my play right? Did I execute? Did I do 221 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: what the coaches asked me to do? And the coaches 222 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: have to do the same thing. So this is a 223 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: really a time for the whole team, the whole organization 224 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: to look themselves in the mirror and ask what can 225 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: I do better than I did last week? And I 226 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: know people are looking at it and saying one in 227 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: five playoffs way out of reach. Things like that. You 228 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: don't think about that internally. You have to think about 229 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: how you can get better each day and just get 230 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: a victory and hopefully it's then this week against Jacksonville. Absolutely. 231 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's gotta be one game at a time, 232 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: and and it's easy to look at the schedule. I mean, 233 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: you have Jacksonville coming up, you have Miami. You know, 234 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: you have a couple of games that, oh, you know what, 235 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: we can win these games. But you can't do that. 236 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: You have to take a one game, a game at 237 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: a time, one play at a time, and continue just 238 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: to trying to get better each play each game, because 239 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: that's the only way that you're gonna get wins. All right, 240 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna come right back with Brandon Copeland. You are 241 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: listening to Inside the Jets on ESPN Radio. You're listening 242 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: to Inside the Jets on ESPN Radio, Eric on On On 243 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: alongside Eric Coleman, our player guests. Segment is presented by 244 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: mt Bank, the official community bank of your New York, 245 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: New York Jets. Let's welcome in Jets Outside line linebacker 246 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: Brandon Copeland. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having cope, 247 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: great seeing you. If we had a tremendous podcasting, you 248 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: check that out on anywhere that's available right now, Apple podcast, 249 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: New York Jets dot Com. All that stuff. Um, last week. Now, 250 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: we got you on inside the Jets. Were you guys 251 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: off today because it's a Monday night game? You got 252 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: a game Sunday? Short week? How did the schedule change? Yeah? 253 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: Your Tuesday is generally the off day for players and 254 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But guys are you know, obviously it's 255 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: a short week. Guys are in, you know, working on 256 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: their bodies, lifting, preparing, getting studying film, doing what you 257 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: do as a pro. Take us inside the locker room 258 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: after the defeat to the Patriots. Um, Adam Gaze's message 259 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: to you guys and then the message among yourself. Yeah, 260 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, coming in clearly, you know, 261 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: as I told, somebody knowing expects anything like that. So 262 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: you know, the the the first thing from a message standpoint, 263 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, is is you know the season is not over. 264 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean I know that that's not what people want 265 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: to hear. But you know you can either dwell in it, 266 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: get your head down, be disgusted with yourself and you 267 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: should be right like you you you we definitely should be. Um, 268 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: we got kicked in the face yesterday and no, you know, 269 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: not gonna hide from it. However, if you weren't disgusted 270 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: with yourself as a competitor, that you need to get 271 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: out of the locker room. Right. Other than that, we 272 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: got to move forward. Right. There's we played the Jacksonville 273 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Jaguars this week. They don't care what happened Monday on Sunday. 274 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: Guess what, I won't care what happened Monday, you know. 275 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: So it's about approaching this next day. One of the 276 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: things my grandfather used to say is, you know, he 277 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: always talked about life and my heads above ground. I 278 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: got a chance, right, So I wake up this morning, 279 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm smiling, I'm happy. I look at my beautiful baby 280 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: boy in his eyes, and guess what I need to 281 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: be the pro that I need to be today. So, Brandon, 282 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, going back and watching the film or even 283 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: thinking about what happened last night, what are some of 284 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: the teaching moments for the defense? You know, obviously getting 285 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: off the field on third down there were some opportunities. 286 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: What other things could you learn as a defense? Yeah, 287 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean I think first and foremost, like you said, 288 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: get off the field on third down. You know, extremely 289 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: long drives that that hurt us um and took a 290 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: toll on us by the end of the game, right, like, 291 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, you let these teams, You let Tom Brady 292 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: have a twelve four team play drive, um and continue 293 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: to convert and convert and convert. We as a defense 294 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: can't let that happen, right, um, take take everything else 295 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: out of play, right, It doesn't matter what what situation 296 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: we're in, we can't let that happen. And then also, 297 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, we we pride ourselves on if there's sudden change. 298 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, if a team is in the red zone, 299 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: we gotta make him kick field goes right. I don't care. 300 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things my college coach used 301 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: to always say is like, I don't care if you 302 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: line the football up right there in the pond in 303 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: the school river that was you know in Philadelphia. You know, 304 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: put the football down unless play. So as a defense, 305 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where the ball is, we have to 306 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: do a job, a better job of getting them off 307 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the field. You guys gotta take care of your on 308 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: side of the ball. And this week it is the Jaguars. 309 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: But on the other side of the ball, a lot 310 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: of attention paid to the quarterback and that's always going 311 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: to be the case. In the National Football League. Sam 312 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Darnald was great against the Cowboys, experience a lot of 313 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: struggles against the Patriots. Knowing him as you do, having 314 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: that intimate knowledge of being in the locker room every day, 315 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: how do you anticipate will respond to this adversity? Yeah, 316 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: I think that that's. Uh. The great thing about having 317 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: a mentor like Josh McCown last year is now he 318 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: knows how to attach, how to attack this process. Right. Um. 319 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: The great thing about Sam is he doesn't really pay 320 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: too much attention to outside North's right, because you know, 321 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: you you have people on him and monitoring him at 322 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: all times. So like last week people are praising him, right, 323 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: and now this week people are are are shaming him right. 324 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: Good thing he doesn't pay attention to it. He just 325 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: goes to work and he's the same person, same players, 326 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: same same preparation wise weekend and week out until um, 327 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: you know, we reset, we reset. We believe in him, 328 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: He believes in him, and you know, I'm excited to 329 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: see him bounce back this weekend. So after you know, 330 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: obviously when you come back to practice tomorrow, it's onto Jacksonville. 331 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: You know you're playing against a young quarterback and Gardner Minshew, 332 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: who's you know, he's an athletic. He's kind of a 333 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: gun slinger as a pass rusher. What is it? What 334 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: is it like going against an athletic quarterback who can 335 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: get out of the pocket and break the pocket with 336 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: his lyrics. Yeah, you have to be careful in your rush. 337 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: You know, you can't get too high above him, and 338 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: because as you get too high and you get out 339 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: of your lane, that's when you create running lanes for him. 340 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: And I was watching film on him today and you 341 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: know that that's exactly what what the defense did against him, 342 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: and he literally broke off a run for about forty 343 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: some yards um and slid down untouched, right through the 344 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: middle of the defense. So uh, you know you have 345 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: to be careful in your rush. But you also, with 346 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: that being said, it's obviously moron, but you you can't 347 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: be too afraid where you end up stalling and not 348 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: end up putting any pressure on him because you're just 349 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: playing pity pad with the offensive lineman trying to keep 350 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: him in front of you. So um. The thing about 351 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: the scrambling quarterback too, is sometimes they're so athletic and 352 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: and so um able body to get themselves out of 353 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: sticky situations, and sometimes they'll run right into you. So 354 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: you know, you, you you, you want to put him 355 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: in positions where he's feeling pressure from all different angles 356 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: and he's starting to try to move and and that's 357 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: when we can take advantage and hopefully get that ball out. 358 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you know this, but Eric 359 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Coleman went to a Washington state, so of course he 360 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: had to get that washed in state quarterback. In the 361 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: mix here early during our interview, I think this game 362 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be played in the phone booth. Leonard four 363 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: net seven fifteen yards, number two leading Russian in the 364 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: National Football League, averaging five yards it carry, has five 365 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: carries a twenty plus yards, three carries a forty plus yards. 366 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: He looks more explosive than aver Cope. But you guys, 367 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: I really stopped in the well run quite well the 368 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: Patriots for everything they did to you offensively two point 369 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: two yards per carry. I know Michelle got an end 370 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: zone three touchdowns on the ground, and you guys aren't 371 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna like that. But also, you guys are number two 372 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: in the National Football League in terms of yards per 373 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: carry at three point three. Yeah, I mean it's I'm 374 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm very much looking forward to the battle. Uh it's 375 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: old school football so to speak. So, um, it's going 376 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: to be one of those games where you're gonna you know, 377 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna make sure you chinche dress buffalo, you're ready 378 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: to go. You're gonna make sure you stay in low 379 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: all week and keeping the right leverage. And when you 380 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: do get a chance to tackle, you better bring your 381 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: pads and and run your feet because uh, if for 382 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: Nett gets a chance to take your face off, he 383 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: will right. Um, I'm very much looking forward to it. 384 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: But again, by stopping the run, we need to be 385 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: able to uh put offenses in those third long situations 386 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: and then that's when we really need to attack. And 387 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: that's what we'll be working on all week. And and 388 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, we all we all have things we can improve, 389 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: and then that's what we'll be working on. This is 390 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: one of those games you know, as a defender, as 391 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: a safety, that you used to look forward to. You know, 392 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: you know that there's a running back. You're gonna you're 393 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of attempts. You're gonna have to 394 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: stop that run. You're gonna strap up your chince trap 395 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: a little tighter, put some more air in your helmet 396 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: and uh, and it was gonna be a fun game 397 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: because I knew it was gonna be physical. But how 398 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: do you I mean what what what lessons? How? How 399 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: do you how do you continue uh to to stop 400 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: the run? How do you continue to be effective when 401 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: you know you gave up place in the past game? 402 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: Is it still like a you know, you put it 403 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: on the back burner and practice or is it still 404 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: emphasis on stopping the run? And then we have to 405 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: figure out some things with the past game? No, I 406 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: think you you you have to emphasize stopping the run 407 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: first and foremost, because if you don't do that, then 408 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: you you're setting yourself up for a long long I mean, 409 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: yesterday was long. I'll be honest with you, it was 410 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: a long night. However, if you can't stop the run, 411 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: then you know you're literally getting man handled out there, 412 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: pushed around and all of that type of stuff. And 413 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: and that's a very very disheartened day at the office. So, uh, 414 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: if you once you stop the run, you you emphasize that, 415 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: will emphasize that as we always do. Once you stop 416 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: the run, now you can make an offensive one dimensional 417 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: and then you know what's coming, right, We just have 418 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: to do a better job of stopping what we know 419 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: is coming right, limited penalties, uh, keeping people in front 420 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: of us, all of this type of stuff, and also 421 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: getting the quarterback down right. Like, we have things we 422 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: need to work on as a defense, and and again 423 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: even all defenses, all offenses, we all have things we 424 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: still need to work on. This. It's early in the season, 425 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: his second quarter of the season. Um, but yeah, to 426 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: that point, where is the pass rush right now? Getting 427 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: yourself back, You're getting your feet underneath you right now, 428 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: your reps are continuing to increase. That was your second 429 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: game back. George Jenkins missed a few games there early 430 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: this season, so you're getting healthier on the defensive side 431 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: of the ball. Brady is unique. He's perhaps the greatest 432 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: of all time. The Patriots do such a good job 433 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: of keeping everything outside and manipulates that pocket, which just 434 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: a little small steps to get that ball off. But 435 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: I know it probably the rush wasn't to where you 436 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: guys would want it against the Patriots. Where do you 437 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: think overall it is and what are you looking forward 438 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: to where it's gonna go in terms of Jacksonville, Miami 439 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: and um, yeah, I think one of the things that 440 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: are One of the things that is not taken into 441 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: account when people talk about rush is how quickly the 442 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are getting the ball out of the games, right, Um, 443 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: And I think we've we've broken down some of the 444 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: the games that we've played, and I haven't broken down 445 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: last night's game or anything like that, but like out 446 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: of say, I'm just throwing out an arbitrary number out 447 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: of forty passes. Sometimes it's literally like twenty nine and 448 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: those passes are out at one point nine seconds. I 449 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: think there was a stat prior to the last night's 450 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: game actually that opposing quarterbacks we're getting the ball out 451 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: quicker against the Jets than any team in the National 452 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: Football And I think they know one. They know uh, 453 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: they know us are heart of our our defense, Greg Williams, 454 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 1: DE coordinator. We're bringing pressure so that they're being coached 455 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: on this week. Hey, let's get the ball out, right, 456 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: but at one point nine seconds, I mean it's hard 457 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: to get from here to here unblocked in one point 458 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: nine seconds, right you know? So, um, the one that 459 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: needs to be taken into account a bit more. However, 460 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, as I tell the defense, as we tell 461 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the defense, Hey, at the end of the day. If 462 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: that's how quickly the ball is getting out there, and 463 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: then we better get there at one point eight, right, 464 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: all right, so we're just getting warmed up. You got 465 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: a chance to stay for another segment. Okay, that's what 466 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna do because we got a lot of things 467 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: to cover here with Brandon Copeland. We are here at 468 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits. You are listening to Inside the 469 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: Jets on ESPN Radio. Welcome back Deside the Jets. Were 470 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits inside the 471 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: Windham Hamilton's Park. Coats, Welcome back to Deside the Jets. 472 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: We're a broadcasting live from Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits inside 473 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: the Windham Hamilton's Park Hoteler Player Guests segment is presented 474 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: by MT Bank, the official community bank of your New 475 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: York Jets. Brandon Copeland is and always has been a 476 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: tremendous guests so we were are having him on for 477 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: a second segment before we continue our conversation where Brandon. Remember, 478 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: Jets fans, you can stream Inside the Jets live through 479 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the Jets App, presented by MT Bank. Go to the 480 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: app store or Google Play Now in search Official New 481 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: York Jets and also Jets Rewards members. Don't forget to 482 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: enter Coach Strong. Don't forget to enter the Coach Strong 483 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: two and your Jets Rewards portal during the show to 484 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: earn a hundred points. Okay, So Brandon, we're talking about 485 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: the pass rush before, we're talking about you being back 486 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: in the mix two games, and how does the body feel. 487 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: How's it all coming back to you in terms of 488 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: muscle memory and also getting back in the mix. Yeah, 489 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: it feels good, man, it feels feels really good. I think, uh, 490 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: first and foremost getting being out of the locker room 491 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: and coming back in. You you missed the brotherhood and 492 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: the camaraderie of the guys, the jokes, the laughter, the 493 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: preparing and all of that type of stuff. So um, 494 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: coming back in. Um, you know, I'm I'm I'm enjoying myself. 495 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying every single moment of it, you know, the good, 496 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: the bad, the Cowboys wins and the Patriots losses. I 497 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: mean it's you enjoy the process, so to speak. A 498 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: bit more so, Um, my body is feeling good. Obviously 499 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: a little banged up after yesterday, but that's part of 500 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: the process. My legs are fresher than than most guys 501 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: on the field right now. So so so can I 502 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: ask what were you doing? You know, obviously it was torture, 503 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, watching your teammates go out there and in 504 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: battle without you. But what kind of things were you 505 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: doing for your body mentally? And you know, I know 506 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: that you do a lot of stuff, you know off 507 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: the field with business. What were you doing to keep 508 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: yourself in shape? And yeah, well, for first and Foremalt 509 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: I actually broke my wrists. Uh, so I had to 510 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: take the first I had six weeks of time to 511 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: to collect myself and get prepared for the comeback, so 512 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: to speak. In the first three weeks, I actually had 513 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: two pins hanging outside of my wrist. So they said 514 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: you you shouldn't what because it could get infected. Now, 515 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: me being a hard hitted individual, I am. I still 516 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: tried to find a way to run late at night 517 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: and stuff like that when it was cooler out and 518 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. But just keeping my wind up. 519 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: And then as soon as the cast came off, as 520 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: soon as they pulled the pins out, it was I 521 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: went to Florida. I was just training, training, training, my 522 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: tail off. I'm running, working, doing football drills, d be 523 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: working all of that type of stuff, so that when 524 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: I did come back, Um, you know, I wouldn't miss 525 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: a beat. And I think you know, I would literally 526 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: go out on the field in Florida and I'm walking 527 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: through calls and I'm literally acting as if I'm just 528 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: seeing a play action from Tom Brady or whatever I 529 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: am I busting out what am I looking at were 530 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: in my eyes, so um it, to be quite honest, 531 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: when I came back, I think the coaches might were 532 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: a bit surprised that the type of shape I was in, 533 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: and then also how I just came back and ready 534 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: to go. For those the folks who don't know you 535 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: were suspended the first four games this season, can you 536 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: explain why you were suspect and all show how that 537 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: impacted you personally and what steps you're taking now, because 538 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: obviously it's something that you never envisioned could ever happen 539 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: to you career. Yeah, so I was suspending for a 540 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: performance enhancing drug violation. Um again, you see it across 541 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: the ticker, you see it across ESPN, and you're just like, 542 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this dude's been taking steroids for all 543 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: these years, and and literally, uh, in early June, late May, 544 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: I got a letter from the NFL saying I failed 545 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: a drug chest and I'm literally in my house, just 546 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, just cursing, screaming curse 547 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: words like what the this has to be a mistake. 548 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: And so I literally at that point in time, I 549 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: took every supplement I was taken. I sent it off 550 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: to a science laboratory. It cost me seven five dollars 551 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: per supplement, and they found the supplement that had the 552 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: band substance in it. Now on this supplement that nothing 553 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: on the label that that uh show this mand substance, 554 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: and substance actually isn't even in like doctors can't prescribe 555 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: it or anything like that. So there's actually no way 556 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: you can get it in the States. And I before 557 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: I took the supplement, I literally did everything I could. 558 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: I checked it through the after the NFL gives us 559 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: the check supplements, everything was fine. I sent a picture 560 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: of the label to multiple nutritionists. They cleared me to 561 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: take it and all that type of stuff. But literally 562 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: it was simply a contaminated substance subplement Um, the day 563 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: after my suspension was announced, the company actually put on 564 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: their website that they were changing their manufacturing company and 565 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: all of that type of stuff. So currently we filed 566 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: a lawsuit against them. Uh a couple fridays ago or 567 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: maybe yeah, a couple of fridays ago at this point, Um, 568 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: we filed a lawsuit against them. And you know, for 569 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: me personally, Uh, there's a lot of things that I'm 570 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 1: doing off the field and I think too not even 571 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: besides that, this is my seventh year in the NFL. 572 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: I've been practice squad. As I talked to the team 573 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: when I told them about them, listen first and foremost, 574 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: all of you know me, so you know I wouldn't 575 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: try anything like this. But second of all, let's just 576 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: think have some common sense for a second. This is 577 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: my seventh season in the NFL. I've been practice squad. 578 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: My second season in the NFL, I've played for two 579 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: weeks practice squad and got cut sat out the rest 580 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: of the season. Ever since then, I came and I've 581 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 1: been active ever since then. I just came off my 582 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: best season of my career. I've had a bunch of sacks, 583 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm having my brand new baby, boy, I'm killing it 584 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: off the field and financial literacy, why now? But it 585 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: really just doesn't make sense right and and they literally 586 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: all just laugh. Right. So again, the people who know me, 587 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: they know my heart. No, I wouldn't try. However, the 588 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: way I look at things too, is everything happens for 589 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: a reason. God doesn't make mistakes. There's something that's a 590 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: bigger meaning purpose. Whether it was just to spend time. 591 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: My son is three months old, so whether it was 592 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: just to spend more time with him, I'm I'm comfortable 593 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: with that, right um. And whatever the higher meaning, bigger purpose, 594 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: maybe maybe someone else learning from my mistakes or whatever. 595 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: And I don't really see it as a mistake on 596 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: my end. However, you know what would to the young 597 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: guys coming up, because obviously you're gonna take supplements because 598 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: you guys got to maintain a certain regiment to get 599 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: your bodies ready to roll on Sundays. Yeah. Yeah. The 600 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: hardest thing, to be quite honest with you, is I 601 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: really can't give you any advice like that was one 602 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: of my things, you know, to towards the NFL is 603 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: like what would you tell me to do differently? Right? 604 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: And and if there's something that you would tell me 605 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: to do differently than I. You know, I take full responsibility. 606 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm still take full responsibility. It was in my bodies, 607 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: But like, what can you tell me to check it 608 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: through your nfl APP? I did that right. Check with nutritionists, 609 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: I did that right. Check the label all of that 610 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: type of stuff, I did that right. Like, so the 611 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: only thing you can really tell me is when I 612 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: pie this supplement for thirty forty bucks, send it to 613 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: the Science laboratory pace seven bucks on every single supplement 614 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: I take, and then you know, and then hope for 615 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: the best. At that point, well, I'll tell you. I'll 616 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: tell you what for that you do? You found the 617 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: silver lining in your cloud? Bro? Because Brandon and you 618 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: just mentioned Bryce and three months old? What's it like 619 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: being a dad and how special is Yeah, it's amazing. Uh, 620 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: it's amazing. I'm sure you know as parents know. It's 621 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing for me personally and for for for 622 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: us all to see your motivation every single day. I like, 623 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: I tell people I've been working for him since my 624 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: junior year of high school. I've literally envisioned my son 625 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: and my family, and this is other people I'm working 626 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: for and I'm working so hard for entirely from tirelessly 627 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: for and so to wake up and see him squirming 628 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: or smile or something like that, Okay, there's there's nothing 629 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: then you could do that can throw me off on 630 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: on this this journey that I'm on and and again 631 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: side know what I mean, you know, the things that 632 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: women do right like one, y'all are amazing. I mean 633 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: it's literally ridiculous because I mean, my wife is superwoman 634 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: and and you know I literally couldn't be here right 635 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: now if she wasn't taking care of holding down the fort. 636 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: But you know, literally sitting in there from pregnancy the delivery. 637 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it. You know, I had risk surgery 638 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: and I've had peck surgery, risk surgery and knee surgery. 639 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: After all of those surgeries, don't talk to me, don't 640 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: touch me. I'm eating fast food and all this stuff. 641 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: You guys just had a surgery and now you have 642 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: to feed this this individual and get up and yeah, 643 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is yeah, this is amazing. So 644 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: much respect, much respect all the women out there. Yeah yeah, yeah, 645 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: recently had a baby girl. Uh you know I have 646 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: I have three myself, so completely understand we're really happy 647 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: for you. So so trying to get some sleep in 648 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: a full night of sleep. So, you know, speaking on that, 649 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: speaking on having your child, your son, leaving the legacy. 650 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: There are some things you're doing outside of football, you know, 651 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: teaching financial literacy classes, uh, doing some business ventures on 652 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: your own. How important is that to set yourself up 653 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: outside of football. I think it's very very important. I 654 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: mean you you A lot of people think, you know, 655 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: it's planning B as plan B is so distracting from 656 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: plan A. And I'm like, one of the things that 657 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: I did in my camp last year, not this past year, 658 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: but the year before that is I took a big 659 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: went to Walmart and got a big brown paper like 660 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: literally from this wall to this wall, and I literally 661 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: took spray paint. I drew on it like a timeline 662 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: from zero to seventy nine and a half, which is 663 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: the average human lifespan, and I blacked out the years 664 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: from one to twenty four and a half. So I 665 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: blacked out those years, I said, and literally made two 666 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: campers hold it up and they're looking at this big 667 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: brown thing. They just see this little black piece in 668 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: the middle. I'm like, look, this is the average NFL 669 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: career right there, right, don't tell me you like, don't 670 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: tell me like like you don't care about anything else, 671 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: You're not interested in anything else. And I get it. 672 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: We're in a finite moment and we have to take 673 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: every advantage of it. But me and instead of going 674 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: home and playing video games, nothing wrong with it. I 675 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: go home and I'm my contractor sent me videos of 676 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: a house that we're renovating right now, right like my 677 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: my co professor sent me stuff about the class that 678 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: we just got a proof of this spring. We just 679 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: got bumped it up from thirty students to sixty students 680 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: in a new, new room and stuff like that. So again, 681 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: my my focus is just a bit different. These are 682 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: my interests, and you know, to be quite honest with you, 683 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: I've tried to turn them off, so to speak. Right, 684 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: I've learned. I learned how to compartmentalize them. Where I'm 685 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: on the football field. Clearly, last night, in the middle game, 686 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about a flip, right However, Um, you know, 687 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: trying to turn it off is is harder than just 688 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: letting it flow and letting me So who were the 689 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: some of the people that who are some of your 690 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: mentors who taught you how to be interested in business 691 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: and learn about your financial literacy and and extend your 692 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: money and your and your value. And before you answer that, 693 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: I do just want to add that this guy is 694 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: the rarest of the rare. He went to Pennsylvania. Yes, 695 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: the Ivy League pen played there and he's teaching financial literacy. 696 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: So but go on, and you know he just asked 697 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: your cope about your mentors. Yeah, no, there's there's been 698 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of great mentor I've been blessed from that standpoint. 699 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: I think, Uh, some of the people that stick out 700 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: to me. Rob Sims, he's a former Detroit Lion I 701 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: played with, played with. Yeah, so Rob Sims, him, Calvin Johnson, Megatron. Um, 702 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: they've started a locker room consulting group out of Michigan. 703 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: But Rob was actually one of the first people to 704 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: take me under his wing from a real estate standpoint 705 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: and just drive me around and show me different things. Um, 706 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Hello Ti Nada uh over Quinn to hear white head. 707 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: And I've just been fortunate to be in locker rooms. 708 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: I've been in locker rooms with not knuckleheads, but some 709 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: guys who are you know, they they want to be 710 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: young forever and and and do young things forever. But 711 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: I've also been in locker rooms where I've had guys 712 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: who I can look up to from football standpoint, preparation standpoint, 713 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: but also the next thing that I look at, to 714 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, family standpoint, the way they 715 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: treat their wives, the way they treat their children, things 716 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: that I can look up like, Okay, I remember being 717 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: in Detroit, you know, before I was married or anything 718 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: like that, and looking at some of these guys and like, wow, 719 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: like I want that, Like the way you respect your wife, 720 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: the way you do this, I want this right um. 721 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: And then the next step how they handle business off 722 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: the field and the things that they're doing, whether it's 723 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: investing in inventures or starting their own gyms or real 724 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: estate or whatever it may be. But I've been I've 725 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: just been blessed to be around the right people. And 726 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: I've also just been blessed to have the said a 727 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: humbleness to listen and to take a car ride with 728 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 1: Rob Well listen to Brandon Copeland because another outstanding appearance 729 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: on Inside the Jets. He was also on Official Jets podcast. 730 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: Check that out on Apple podcast sound Cloud, New York 731 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: Jets dot Com. Thanksful so much for coming by. Good 732 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: luck this weekend. We'll be right back. You're listening Inside 733 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: the Jets on ESPN Radio. Ernst and Young LP is 734 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: proud to be the exclusive professional business and accounting services 735 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: sponsor of the New York Jets and MetLife Stadium. Welcome Back, 736 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Inside the Jets were broadcasting live from 737 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits inside the Windham Hamilton Park Hotel 738 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: Erica on alongside Eric Coleman. Inside the Jets is presented 739 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: by e Y Building a Better Working World. Tremendous double 740 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: segment with Brandon Copeland as a couple of weeks when 741 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: Steve McClendon, these guys are just so good, we got 742 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: a book him for the full hour. Yeah, man, We 743 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: got some some great veterans on the team's in great leadership, 744 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: and it was great to hear all the positive things 745 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: Brandon Copeland has going on in his life and and 746 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: how he always puts the positive spin on everything, whether 747 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: it be the New England game or going through adversity. 748 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta keep that that positive attitude. You know. 749 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: He had an interesting thing to say in terms of football, 750 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks against the Jets are getting that ball out quick. 751 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: We we we always talk in terms of three seconds 752 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 1: typically for a quarterback to release the football. A lot 753 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 1: of times when you're playing Tom Brady, he's not waiting 754 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: three seconds before that balls out. No, he's not. You know, 755 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: he's getting out quick to those running backs to tow Edelman, 756 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: to those to those short release valves. You know when 757 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: you're when you're bringing pressure and that has to be 758 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: frustrating as a pass rusher. You know, you could probably 759 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: you can literally line up and he can snap the 760 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: ball and get the ball off quicker with one blocking you. 761 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: Then then you could uh you know, as far as 762 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: defeating your man in front of you. So, um, you know, 763 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: you know who you're going against. You're playing against Greg 764 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: Williams defense. He's aggressive, he has a ton of talent 765 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. That's the strength of his defense. 766 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: Gotta get it out quick. Okay, So give us a 767 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: scouting report on who they're playing this week, because it 768 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: is the Jacksonville Jaguars and their quarterback went to Washington State. 769 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: Gardner met you, Yeah, Gardner Minshew is uh you know, 770 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: he's you know, the first couple of weeks took the 771 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: league by storm. Uh, filling in for Nick Foles. He's 772 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: very confident young man. You know, he's not the biggest quarterback, 773 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: about six ft tall, very mobile. You know, he's not 774 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson, but he can hurt you with his feet. Uh. 775 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: One of those quarterbacks that throws the ball with no conscience. 776 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: You know where he can throw. He'll throw a couple 777 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: of interceptions, but he'll make some great plays at the 778 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: same time. Accurate passer. He comes from the air raid 779 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: attack and uh, and it's gonna be important for the 780 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: Jets to get those big fellas up in front of 781 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: him and get pressure and get the hands up knocked 782 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: down some passage. About right in the middle of the 783 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: National Football League in terms of sacks allowed, tied for 784 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: sixteen and it's not tied for sixteen with sixteen sacks allowed. 785 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: And it's not just as Brandon said about sacks, but 786 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 1: it is about disrupting the quarterback, getting off the field 787 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: on third down and also having those takeaways. You can 788 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: have a game get out of control like it did 789 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: against the Patriots when you turn the football over five times. Yeah, 790 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: you know it really you know it takes away possessions 791 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: from your offense. Uh. You know, also when you look 792 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: offensively not converting those red zone those red zone trips 793 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: in the points, I mean, those will kill you. You You know, 794 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: against the Patriots, you have to score touchdowns. You know, 795 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: you have to keep them out when you when your 796 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: team those are those an interception or force or get 797 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: to turn over the defense. Doesn't matter where the ball was, 798 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: like Brandon Copeman said, doesn't matter if it'sident the late 799 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: in the street. You have to go out there and 800 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: play your defense and you have to get your team 801 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: off the field hold them to a field goal. And 802 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: so you know it works hand in hand. You know, 803 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: offense has to convert, defense has to keep him off 804 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: the board. Special teams has to in the ball in 805 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: the possession with the ball. But and that's the reason 806 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 1: I brought up Jacksonville sack total because their offensive line. 807 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's considered elite. I think they're playing 808 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: relatively well. But this team is based on Leonard four net. 809 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: If the Jets can contain him, hold him down, because 810 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna get his carry. So that means Leonard Fournett 811 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: is gonna get his yards. If you can keep him 812 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: the three yards to carry, not have those explosion runs. 813 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: Then you're gonna have opportunities to get after the quarterback 814 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: this weekend. Absolutely, you know, you stop that run at 815 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: the beginning of the drive, first and second down. Uh, 816 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, you put the opposing offense into a third 817 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 1: down in long situation. That's when Greg Williams at his finest. 818 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: You know, that's when he's drawing up the blitz because Brady, 819 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: they're playing then they're not. They're playing a young quarterback 820 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: who hasn't seen this type of aggressive defense. And if 821 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: they're able to stop to run, you make them play 822 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: left handed, you make you force them to make Gardner 823 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: Minshew beat him. And the reason they've had success is 824 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: because running the football, you have to honor the run. 825 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: No one, no safety wants to see Leonard Fournette running 826 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: full speed because he's gonna put a hurting on you. 827 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: So you're gonna inch closer and closer, and now you 828 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: have to honor that play action. Now there's opportunities for 829 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: shots down the field. So it's gonna be important for 830 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: the Jets to stop the road at the front seven 831 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: and uh and make them have some third down in 832 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: long situation. Firstly, if you're Adam Gates and you're that 833 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: offensive coaching staff and you're in the lab, what kind 834 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: of game planner you're putting together. I'm looking at stats, 835 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 1: and the game is not just about stats alone. But 836 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: Jacksonville has spent very average in terms of rush defense 837 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: this year, tied for twenty one in the National Football League, 838 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: about a hundred seventeen yards per game. And while much 839 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: didn't work right for you offensively against the New England Patriots, 840 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: you know who looked good. Who had a season high 841 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: in terms of yards in average per rush. The guy 842 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: we've been talking about, Levian Bell. Yeah, Levian Bell is 843 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: gonna be important to continue to feed him, to give 844 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: him opportunities and make plays. He is the best player 845 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: on the team. You know, he's the spark on offense. Uh, 846 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: He's a workhorse. He does it all, from catching the 847 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: ball to run into pass blocking. You have to feed 848 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: him and give him opportunities, you know. Just like it's 849 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: important for the Jets to stop to run defensively, offensively, 850 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: it's important for them to establish the run because that 851 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: takes some of the pressure off of Sam Donald and 852 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: it allows him opportunities to to to slow down that 853 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: defensive line so he can stop, sit back and react. Uh. 854 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: That's the cipher who's gonna be open to make those 855 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: accurate passes with his feet set. If the takeaway chart 856 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: is neutral at the end of Sunday, I don't even 857 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: have to go down to Jacksonville watch the game and 858 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: being the press box to tell you this. Give me 859 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: the numbers and tell me what Leonard for Nett has, 860 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: and tell me what Levian Bell has, and I'll give 861 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: you a winner. What do you think about that? You're right, 862 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 1: You're right about that. These two running backs are gonna 863 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: dictate who wins his game. You know, is it to 864 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 1: be Leonard Fournette on the ground or is it gonna 865 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: be lebon doing both, you know, running the football, catching 866 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: the ball. Uh, They're they're gonna be the key matchup 867 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: this week. And it's gonna be exciting to see him. 868 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you one thing, the Jets better block 869 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: number Campbell. Oh. He's having a heck of a year. 870 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: You know, he's one of the older guys. He's been 871 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: the league forever, but he's continued to dominate and disrupt offenses. 872 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: And uh, and really a special count and they're getting 873 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: some production from that pass Russia out of Kentucky. That's 874 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Yeah, you know a lot of guys, a 875 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: lot of people, Jets fans, wanted the Jets to pick Josh. Yeah. 876 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting because we'll be help to see Quentin Williams 877 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen on the field together. They won't be 878 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: playing against each other, but they'll obviously be facing the 879 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: respective offenses. Yeah, I mean, I know, I'm as every 880 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: Jets fan is. They're excited to see Quintin. You know, 881 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: he's been disruptive since he got back healthy. You know, 882 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: he's a he's a very aggressive player, quick strong. You know, 883 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: I saw him throw around some some Zack Martin against 884 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and there's a play where he just threw 885 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: like a rag doll. And It's like, I knew Quentin 886 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: was athletic, I knew he was quick. I didn't realize 887 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: how much how much force he had, how strong he 888 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: was as a player. So we'll have to see what 889 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: happens Sunday in Jacksonville. Eric Coleman and myself will be 890 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: back here at Vanderbilt Sports and Spirits next week. Thanks 891 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: for listening to inside the Jets