1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: production of My Heart Radio, Welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It is once again one 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: of our favorite times of the week where we hear 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: from our favorite part of this show, which is you, 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: our fellow conspiracy realist. Today is really interesting because, uh, 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: in this week's segment, we are going to see some 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: follow ups on the center of the universe out there 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. We're gonna talk a little bit about h 16 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: v a C in a way you may not expect. 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: We're going to learn a legend about it. Someone very 18 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: into toes. And then we're going to talk about some 19 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: conflicts of interest from our long suffering, long suffering institution, 20 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: the United States Postal Service. So maybe we go in 21 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: in the order that we named things. I think we 22 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: were all pretty excited to hear back from so many 23 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: of our fellow listeners about the center of the universe, 24 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: and Matt, that's a story that you brought up originally, right, 25 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit about the science of acoustics, 26 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about the origin of the place, 27 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: but nol we all were seeved an excellent little piece 28 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: of correspondence, which I think really really raises the bar 29 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: for some emails here because we get a picture as well. 30 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: We did get a picture, um and we also got 31 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: a firsthand account of the acoustical phenomenon that is described there. 32 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: The Center of the World location in Tulsa, Oklahoma. We 33 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: heard kind of conflicting things about it sounding like one 34 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: of those echo chambers where I don't know that have 35 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: you ever been to one of those? Actually they have. 36 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: It had a lot of kind of hipster playgrounds for 37 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: kids where they'll be like a tube that you can 38 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: sort of whisper into and will travel and like you'll hear, 39 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, on the other side, or they'll be like 40 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: a kind of like a bubble where there are also 41 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: different tubes that are coming out and it will transfer 42 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: sound from one bubble to the other again using reflections 43 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: and just sound the way sound waves travel, kind of 44 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: utilizing that. So that was sort of what I was picturing, 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: sort of a science center, hipster playground kind of experience. 46 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: But uh, Snickers wrote us a letter and gave us 47 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: a much more detail account. So here we go. Hey, guys, 48 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: here is a picture of me standing at the center 49 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: of the universe in Tulsa. Uh. Sure enough, there she is. 50 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: She's standing in the center. It looks like kind of 51 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: like a brick um inlaid sort of like um, a 52 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: historical marker, kind of placard kind of thing that you 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: might see on like a city's like river walk or 54 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: something like that, um in a circle, standing in the 55 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: middle of it. Snickers goes on, at the time, there 56 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: was no sign. Uh, and again this is just like 57 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: sort of an array of bricks, doesn't really have a 58 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: placard on it, just kind of has that look. There 59 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: was no sign. And if the website I found describing 60 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: it hadn't told me how to find it, I never 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: would have known I was in the right place. People 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: walked past on their way to and from work, Several 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: looked at us as if they didn't know why anyone 64 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: would be there. It seems to be between business districts, 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: parking garage, and large office buildings, but not arranged in 66 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: any particular way around that spot. You can see that 67 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: the brick pattern is centered around the spot I was standing. Um, 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: that's what I was describing. So going on now, to 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: my memory, the auditory effect was really bizarre. Didn't so 70 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: much amplify or reverberate my own voice, but everything other 71 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: than that, other than what was coming from the spot 72 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: in the center, sounded muted. So it's almost like a 73 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: noise cancelation kind of effect. Um. So the only sounds 74 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: I could hear standing there were the ones I was making. 75 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: My traveling companion tried it out too, and despite reports, 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: we didn't notice any distortion of our voices from outside 77 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: of the circle, but they reported a similar effect. We 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: messed around with this for the better part of an hour. 79 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: That's a testament enough itself. That's something interesting was going on, 80 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: including standing as close together as we could and super 81 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: quietly whispering to each other, and we could hear things 82 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: we were sure we wouldn't have been able to hear 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: it all but the quietest nights neat again, the people 84 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: passing by didn't show any sign of understanding what we 85 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: were doing, which led us to speculate that it may 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: ain't not have been well known among the locals, which 87 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: also seemed unlikely. And they also go on to say, 88 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: I found this and other interesting roadside attractions for a 89 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: cross country road trip on the Atlas Obscure website. And 90 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: I think all three of us, four of us, everyone 91 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: pretty much from the house stuff works, uh family, big 92 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: fans of Atlas Obscure and then signs it, snickers and 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: gives permission to use the information, requests that we obscure 94 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: their face if posting the picture. I think we need 95 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: to post a description. Yeah, I think the description is 96 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: is good enough and what a cool email. I I 97 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: can't mean that to me. The closest thing that it 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: would be almost as if you were sharing a noise 99 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: cancelation experience with somebody else, which I can't fully understand 100 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: how scientifically that would be possible, because it's a very 101 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: personal thing. It's using, you know, these kind of falsely 102 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: generated subsonic waves to cancel out other subsonic waves that 103 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: are in the environment, and any the acoustitions out there. 104 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Might take issue with the way I have have described that 105 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: I think I'm doing it relatively decently. On it, You're 106 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: nail in it. I I also figured out how to 107 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: build one. And there was a There was for a 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: time a children's museum here in Atlanta, Georgia named side Track. 109 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: Do you guys remember side Track? Yes, it may have 110 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: been while you were an Augusta Noel, but side Track, 111 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: for many years was the coolest field trip you could take. 112 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: And uh and they had They had something similar, some 113 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: acoustic trickery such that one could whisper into a funnel 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: on one side of a very large room, and then 115 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: and then here the whispers at the other funnel on 116 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: the other side of the room. And I figured out 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: how to build one. I just need a bigger space. 118 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: So no, Matt, I love this. I love that we 119 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: are encountering this. We also got a lot of great 120 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: correspondence about other places called this a tour of the universe, 121 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: which caused me to look up the actual scientific quote 122 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: unquote center of the Universe. Tried to find the big bang. 123 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: Maybe an episode for another day. That's exciting. I'll edge 124 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: my seat, and that's not just because I'm sitting uncomfortably. 125 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: This is, you know, directly a result of of your discovery. 126 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: But I like that you're gonna keep us, keep us guessing, 127 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: and I do think that would be a fun episode. 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: It's true that like the idea of the center of 129 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: the universe is almost the same as like the best 130 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: cup of coffee in New York here something. It's like 131 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: a thing you can just say. You don't really have 132 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: to back it up with paperwork or even geography. Really, um, 133 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: but this place, whether or not, has anything to do 134 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: with any kind of cosmological effects, uh due to you know, geolocation. 135 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: It is pretty cool and obviously something's going on. And 136 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: we talked about it Matt in the segment about having 137 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: to do with you know, the reverberation of these nearby 138 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: office parks and you know, parking garages in the like. 139 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: But I just don't that doesn't account for what she's 140 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: talking about here. This is a reverse reverb. Essentially, this 141 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: is like noise canceling. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't 142 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: know how to explain it. I know that there's some 143 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: there's some thought that it is in fact the way 144 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: in which you can see in the picture that we 145 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: were sent, the way in which the concrete border is 146 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: in the fence. There's like a concrete fence as well 147 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: along the bridge. There something about the interaction with air 148 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: coverberation traveling through those as well as reverberating off that 149 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: low concrete fence or whatever that is bench or something 150 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: that is there in the background. It's like something about 151 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: this interaction which also reminds me of standing stones. Uh, 152 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, there there is something similar to that, 153 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: because stone does reverberate. I don't know if you guys 154 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: want me to spoil the current scientific consensus about the 155 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: center of the universe. Do you want you want to 156 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: hear it? Or should we should We think we did 157 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: it in the last episode a little bit, But let's 158 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about according to the brightest minds, humanity is 159 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: produced up to two. There is no actual center for 160 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: the universe. There is no spoon anyway. This is uh 161 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about the actual center of the universe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 162 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: I tried to. I tried to find the origin point. 163 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: And uh, I actually guys knew I hate phones. I 164 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: spoke with some folks. Uh, and yeah, there's no Devil's 165 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: advocare for the seke of arguments say there were the 166 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: chances that it would be on Earth be pretty unlikely. No, 167 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: there's no, there's no chance. Yeah, definitely not in Tulsa. Yeah, 168 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, h likely to be there. It's anywhere. I 169 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: guess it's just I'm not not not no no ding 170 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: on Tulsa. It's apparently and it's got some really rich 171 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: interesting history. Uh. If anyone's aware of the Tulsa race riots, 172 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean that is something that was buried in American 173 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: history for the longest time. I didn't really know much 174 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: about it until that show The Watchman on HBO made 175 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: it kind of the central feature of the war of 176 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: that show. Um really crazy. It was absolutely a massacre 177 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: of of black professionals, um living in a town that 178 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: they felt safe in by the clan who just came 179 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: in a brazenly with like airplanes, even like literally air raided. 180 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: It was a war. Absolutely, No, I think I think 181 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: it may have been on an adventure. Uh. When Natt 182 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: and code named Doc and I were talking about Tulsa 183 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: in the larger context of what it's called the Red Summer, Uh, 184 00:10:54,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: it's it's something that I'm really glad you're bringing up because, um, 185 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: more people need to know the things that are often 186 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: exercised from grade school textbooks. Also check out our episode 187 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always playing in our episodes. Check 188 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: out our episode all the textbook war It's uh, it's global, 189 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: and it is one of the UM I think when 190 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: the early versions of information warfare exactly, And not to 191 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: get controversial, I just wanted to bring this up briefly 192 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: because it just pisses me off. I don't understand what 193 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: the beef is like. We know these things happen, isn't 194 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: covering it up? Doesn't that just make us look like 195 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: And not to get to soap boxy anything, but we 196 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: did just recently have a discussion about critical race theory 197 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: UM and I believe an episode of of of Listener 198 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: mail UM. It's confusing to me as to why something 199 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: like this would be exercised from history and why the 200 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: idea of teaching the mistakes that we as a country 201 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: have made historically UH is in any way controversial. You know, 202 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: it just is like the people that would be making 203 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: a decision to soften the blow of these types of 204 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: stories or literally cut a story like this out of 205 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: history books are somewhat complicit and perpetuating that kind of racism. 206 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: As opposed to teaching things that happened in the past 207 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: and the hopes that younger generations could learn from them. Agreed. 208 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: When you were on Adventure, uh, Matt, Doc and I 209 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: talked in depth about about just the same thing. So 210 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: if you feel that you are soap boxing alone, whether 211 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: you are a conspiracy realist, whether or whether you're on 212 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: the show with it's no worries. The truth is the truth, 213 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: and attempts to change it will always eventually fall short 214 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: of their insidious goals. That's what I would say. I 215 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything sanctimonious nor self righteous about 216 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: being honest about the past, and I agree with you 217 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: that empowers us to better face the future, which is 218 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: gonna be crazy. But boy, the future, Am I right? 219 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: I was gonna have another little email snippet to give 220 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: us a sort of a house stuff works lesson on 221 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: a piece of tech that we discussed, and another strange 222 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: news episode. But I think I'll keep this in my 223 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: back pocket for next time. So let's take a quick 224 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: break and then'll be back with some more listener mail. 225 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: And we are back, and we are jumping to the 226 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: phone lines. Everybody, Oh yes, this is exciting. We got 227 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: a message from old Rando. That's O L R A 228 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: N d O Old Randold hold Rando send us this message. 229 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: And oh, guys, I can't wait to tell you some 230 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: of the places I visited on the internet today. Here 231 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: we go, Hey guys, and Doc Holiday or Paul Michigan 232 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: Drill Decond whomever is helming the crew. Uh. There are 233 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: a million things that I want to ask you guys 234 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: to look up, but this one I'll keep it light 235 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: for this one. There's this old rumor in Nova Scotia. 236 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm from Toronto, my now wife, her whole families from 237 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: Nova Scotia, and her mom and all of her family 238 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: members and all their friends talked about the Halifax toe 239 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: tickler and apparently throughout decades like seventies, eighties, nineties, two thousands, 240 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: there have been reports of people who say that someone 241 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: were was breaking into their house and literally just tickling 242 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: their toes and then leaving. It's the weirdest ongoing rumor. 243 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: And I tried to look it up and I couldn't 244 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: find anything. So if you guys find anything about this 245 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: weird ass rumor, I would love to know more about 246 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: it and tell the family. Uh, you guys can use 247 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: this on air. You can call me a whole Rando. Okay, 248 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: there we go, Rando. Oh boy, Uh, she just keeps 249 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: randoing along he does. So, Matt, you you ruined your 250 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: search history on this one. Search histories weren't already lists. 251 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you about some forums I found, uh in 252 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: a moment. So, first of all, I spoke a little 253 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: bit with Old Rando and he gave me just a 254 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: few piece of information. Oh, the first one that you 255 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: need to know if you happen to be in the 256 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Toronto area. Look up Archive wine Bar. Old Rando can 257 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: neither confirm nor deny that he has a part of 258 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: such establishment, but Archive wine Bar looks amazing. I would 259 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: check it out. Okay. So Old Rando says that, uh, 260 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: people in Halifax just seemed to know about this as 261 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: as he stated in his message there, and it's something 262 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: that's just been floating around the family for a while. 263 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: It's always one of those secondhand stories, you know, like 264 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: it happened to my roommate, all right, I knew somebody 265 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: in college, or you know, it happened to this person 266 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: or that person. Generally, it's not a firsthand account. That's given, 267 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: but it's just a rumor. It's a legend. But it 268 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: started somewhere, I would argue. Old Rando noted that Halifax 269 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: is a pretty small city. Uh, you know, this is 270 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: a generalization, but he said, people often don't keep their 271 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: windows locked, you know, especially depending on the temperature, that 272 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: window might be open a little bit or just closed 273 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: but not locked. Same with doors. But many of the 274 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: stories have to do with window entry. So it would 275 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: be someone went up the fire escape in the apartment 276 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: complex or the building that we lived in, gained entry 277 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: to the home through an open window. This person awoke 278 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: to their feet being exposed to the cold air, and 279 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: the window was wide open when they awoke, and it 280 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: was shut when they you know, went to bed or something, 281 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: and they had this weird sensation. They just knew someone 282 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: had been tickling their feet or they heard someone, you know, 283 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: quickly escaping via the fire escape. As Old Rando said, 284 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: there's not a lot about this online. In fact, there 285 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: is zero about this online. And I challenge you everyone listening, 286 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: to find something and send it our way, because I 287 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: could not. I was unsuccessful, sat very sadly. But what 288 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: I did find, guys, will scar me forever here we go. 289 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: Oh God, so conscious of their feet right now? I know, 290 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: I know. Uh yeah, let's start there. We are all 291 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: conscious of our feet. Imagine if you will waking up 292 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, you're one of your feet, 293 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: maybe both of your feet are outside of the covers, 294 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: and you can feel someone or something tickling them as 295 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: you startle awake. That's, first of all, your first mistake 296 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: was keeping your feet outside the covers, because that is 297 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: an absolute no no. Well, the monsters will get you. 298 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: That's how the monsters get you. Everybody knows that. Well. Now, 299 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: imagine your living situation. Are there other people in your 300 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: home that you can account for that should be there. 301 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's one of them. Maybe it's just your spouse, 302 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a child, Maybe it's a dog. Uh, maybe 303 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: it's a roommate. When maybe you call out to that 304 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: roommate or person and they don't respond, and then that 305 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: person quietly backs out of the room and then books 306 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: it for your front door and just takes off. What 307 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: if there's a little bit of light in your room 308 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: and the person you can tell is wearing some kind 309 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: of ski mask while they're tickling your feet. Let me 310 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: may I interject for a moment to once again, once again, 311 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: Matt doc No, I think this is a thank you. 312 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: I think this is a perfect situation for shoe feet, 313 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: which are the shoes that look like feet, uh decoy feets. Yes, basically, 314 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: you won't be caught by a Halifax toe tickler if 315 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: you sleep with shoe feet. So all right, we're done 316 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: with that. They sponsored the podcast This Illumination Global Unlimited. 317 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: You could use the same kind of trick the magicians 318 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: used to cut their assistance in half. You know, the 319 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: fake legs where like the actual legs are tucked back, 320 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: and then there are these like fake feet that's stick 321 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: out that are on the ends of poles. I mean, 322 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: it's a lot to ask, you know, to do this 323 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: every night for fear that you might be the victim 324 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: of a serial home invader slash tickler. But you can't 325 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: be too careful. We're giving you options, folks. We need 326 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: to come along with a new line from shoe feet 327 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: called slipper feet and or sock feet. Uh, just for 328 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: the you know, when you're sleeping, you don't want to 329 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: have a full shoe on. But it's good. So guys, 330 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: this isn't just a fable. This isn't just alleged. There 331 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: are actual stories you can find online. You can also 332 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: find them at newspapers dot com in other places like 333 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: that where it was just a small piece that was 334 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: written in some local newspaper in the seventies, eighties and 335 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: nineties and early two thousands. If you look at the 336 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Hartford Current, which is writing about Glastonbury, Connecticut, they have 337 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: a story there from titled Silent Unnerving Visits in the Night. 338 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: This is the first line quote. Most of the women 339 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: were awakened by a light tug or a tickle on 340 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: their feet, nothing painful, but certainly unexpected in the middle 341 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: of the night. Groggy, they open their eyes to see 342 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: a stranger kneeling at the end of their beds, touching 343 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: or tickling their feet. As the women's screams pierced the 344 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: night's silence, the tall, slender intruder ran out of their bedrooms, 345 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: through their homes, and outside into the darkness. This is 346 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: a I don't love it. I don't love it either. Uh, 347 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: this is horror movie stuff. They're saying that this is 348 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: something that's been happening at least when this was written 349 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: in Glastonbury, Connecticut. Every spring since nine and there was 350 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: a person that was unknown that was titled the Tickler, 351 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: who was a criminal that living somewhere near that area 352 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: that would do this on a regular basis. There were 353 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: eleven cases confirmed since between in a four year period between. Uh, 354 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: it's real. You could read about this. It's horrifying. But 355 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: it sounds like there might be a frauderish at play, right, 356 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: am I using that word correctly? I have no idea. Uh. 357 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Froteurism is a Fronteurism is a thing that people. It's 358 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: a repetitive sexual urge to gain gratification, essentially by physically 359 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: rubbing against another person. A k. The reason that Japan, 360 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Nation of Japan had female identifying only train lines because 361 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: of the rise of fraud. And also, you know, this 362 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: reminds me of um, god, no, what was it we did? 363 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: It was ridiculous history. We had uh the Mad Gasser, 364 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: The Mad Gasser and Uh, if I'm not mistaken, he 365 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: was such a pop cultural hit that there was even 366 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: like a tiny figure made of him in some series 367 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: of nineteen eighties like Creepy you know figuring miniatures. Yeah, 368 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: that was a thing that was definitely a thing. Also, 369 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: you know what now that I'm just thinking out loud here, Matt. 370 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: But um, I believe it is not quite frauderism or 371 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: being a foot to because it's not involving human private parts, right, 372 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: it's intimate parts, and I think it was Matt. Correct 373 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong here. But did you not fairly 374 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: recently tell us you you don't want people around your 375 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: feet just such instive I don't care how intimate we are, 376 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: do not touch my feet. So who's hitting you? On 377 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: a personal note? But you were able to verify this 378 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: is a real thing. That's the real thing. Ohh yeah, 379 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: this is a real thing. And it's not just Connecticut. 380 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: We head on over to Boston, mass There was another 381 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: set of incidents this coming to us in from Boston 382 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: dot com serial quote tickler breaking into Boston College students homes. Enough, 383 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: there spate of toe ticklers or a a toe tickler, 384 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: maybe the same one the person in Connecticut was never caught. 385 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: Maybe this person went to college or you know, or 386 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: moved out Boston way. Uh So it's it's really creepy. 387 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: There were at least ten sidings of the quote so 388 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: called tickler in and around Boston College in uh that's 389 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: from the Boston Police Department. You can read this right 390 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: now online. It's uh, it's all horrifying. It's out there, 391 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: it exists. I assure you all, Rando, there probably was 392 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: a toe tickler. There's just not a lot recorded about 393 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: the sightings and or accosting. What do we what do 394 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: we call? It? Was an assault? It's a physical assault. Technically, yeah, 395 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: it's an assault, and uh it's one of the creepiest 396 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: ones ever. But one in Connecticut, by the way, they 397 00:24:54,760 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: confirmed that entry was made via unlocked doors. So just 398 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: going around, Oh, this one's unlocked. Here we go. Someone's 399 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: getting tickled in here tonight. That's how I imagine the 400 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: toe tickler sounds. So, guys, he's a silly, goofy guy, 401 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, not the fairies, not the fairies at all. 402 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: Just whenical toe tickler and it's funny, really want to 403 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: ask it sounds funny, I assure you, until it happens 404 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: to you, as was reported in both of those articles 405 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned where once it once it once, you're a 406 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: personal physical space is intruded upon, Like that is not 407 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: funny anymore. I mean, let's just imagine this person broke 408 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: into your home. And just sat and watched you sleep. 409 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's horrific in and of itself. Where I'm 410 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: giggling at the word when you say toe tickler because 411 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: it's just fun to say. The alliteration is absolutely delightful. 412 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: But no, this is a an invasion, first of all, 413 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: and second of all, it is an assault. Uh. Even 414 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: if it's not causing the person any physical pain, it 415 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: is absolutely something that could cause someone to experience serious 416 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: a PTSD for a long time to be and uh, 417 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: and you know, violating in that way. No, No, no 418 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: joking around, even if we've been joking around at the 419 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: term toe tickler a little bit, which is whimsical for 420 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: the record, that is that is a fun, fun phrase, 421 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: like you pointed out. Um. Also, I just gotta tell you, 422 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: I think, Matt, you know this, Uh, but I'll go 423 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 1: public with it. My feet are kind of like hands, 424 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Like I can write with my feet, which is a 425 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: super useless skill. Yeah, it's super useless skill. But I'd 426 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: say that when your arms are both severed in a 427 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: tragic you know, thresher accident, which can happen. But the 428 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: the invasion of privacy there, the invasion of one's personal 429 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: space is is a real thing, and it I'm also 430 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: thinking that this may well be a situation where a 431 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: lot of incidents have not been reported. You know, it 432 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: takes uh, it takes a lot for someone to call 433 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: up the law and say someone was messing with my toes. 434 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: You know, imagine imagine how you would feel in that 435 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: from that perspective, like you would you would think, not unreasonably, 436 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: that law enforcement might make fun of you, you know, 437 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: saying that this little piggy song or something. But gross, 438 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: that's my observation. Matt Gross, super gross. Oh, rando, we 439 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: believe you. Matt confirmed it. There's someone out there after toes. 440 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: There is. There are a lot of people out there 441 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: after toes, Which leaves me to my final destination, the 442 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: place that I reached. The It's not the bottom of 443 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: the internet, it's not I I shouldn't make fun of this. 444 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: I don't want to yuck anybody's yum m hmm. But 445 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: I landed in a very specific place titled tickling forum 446 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: dot com. Oh, there's a whole documentary about there's a 447 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: documentary about this and the dark side of it, Like, 448 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, but it has a twist. Apparently 449 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: I have not seen it, but tickled thing and it's 450 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: worth your time. And it's highly worth your time, even 451 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: though the lawsuits that following everything from the you know, 452 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: the bad guys within it. Uh, it is worth your time. 453 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: In this case, the tickling forum reminds me a lot 454 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: of Craigslist, um, and in it it's just people looking 455 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: for te ticklers. Uh. Pages and pages and pages of 456 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: request for toe ticklers, where specific toes a person wants 457 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: to tickle, how they want to tickle it. And I'm scared, 458 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: even though it's just people's personal preferences and I'm sure 459 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: it's cool and people are into it, it's just just 460 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: a toe tickler looking for fun and a female companion 461 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: toe ticklers looking for very speF if they were really 462 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: about the game with the gender matter at that point, 463 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I don't think any of us 464 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: are here to king shame me. I think people are 465 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: what they're into. Uh. And just like people have a 466 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: type in terms of a partner, in terms of like 467 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: the type of people that's actually attracted to. People that 468 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: fixate on a particular body part are also going to 469 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: have a type. And their feet coming all shapes and sizes, 470 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: and some people are into like specific ones. So that's 471 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: what better place to find the one for you than 472 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: an internet forum. Yep, and you can find it. You 473 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: can find it tickling forum dot com. Wait, that's literally 474 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: their name. Yes, okay, okay, well you know we ended 475 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: up in a really wholesome place with this one. I 476 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: think as long as you're not hurting anybody is as 477 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: long as everyone has informed consent, than do do what 478 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: thou wilt, but just hold the consent as a priority. 479 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: Don't break into people's houses, and that's with their feet. 480 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: I guarantee you to tickler because I know you're out there, 481 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: and I know you're listening to this because I know 482 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: you've got a Google alert listen. Go on tickling forum 483 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: dot com and just request that you have Oh no, Ben, 484 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: don't and just request. Hey, I'm into tickling and role play. 485 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: Let me pretend to break into your house and tickle 486 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: your toes and somebody. I guarantee you will be like. 487 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: That sounds great because there's a lot of stuff out 488 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: there and you can find it at tickling forum dot com. 489 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: All right, that's it all, Rando, Thanks for making me 490 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: go through that. Sorry all, Rando, thanks for bringing that 491 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: story to our attention. You've really tickled our fancy. I 492 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know if that works there, but that's what happened. Uh. 493 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more messages from you. And we 494 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: have returned with a piece of correspondence from a good 495 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: friend of the show named they still call me Mailman. 496 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: They still call me Mailman, says hey, stuff they don't 497 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: want you to know. Crew. I recently really listened to 498 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: your September Strange news segment, including the mysterious mail dumps. 499 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: It got me wanting an update on the Postal Service 500 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: in general. The Postal Service Reform Act HR thirty seventy 501 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: six recently passed the House and its counterpart in the Senate, 502 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: awaiting President Biden's signature. It ends the pre funding requirement 503 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: you referred to and add some other positive changes that 504 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: will ensure viability for USPS for many years to come. 505 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: I'd also like to hear about some of the issues 506 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: Postmaster General Louis Dejoi or Louis Dejoi is involved in 507 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: and your take on his future in the U S 508 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: Postal Service. Maybe talk about the Board of Governors and 509 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: how that works, and include the fact that the USPS 510 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: is controlled by Congress, but receives zero tax dollars to 511 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: fund the operations. Just a few other notes. When you 512 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: were talking about how mail goes to all areas and 513 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: other delivery companies do not, you guys, remember that we're 514 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: talking about like FedEx and Amazon and you know, uh, 515 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: what's the other one? Ups? Uh? All those they still 516 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: call me. Mailman confirms this is true, and they still 517 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: call me Mailman says it's called quote last mile, and 518 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: those other companies actually dropped loads at the station for 519 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: the U. S. Postal Service. Also, there is a fun 520 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: fact that little saying about neither wind nor rain nor 521 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: dead of night blah blah law is not a postal 522 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: policy thing or even an ad. It is a made 523 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: up thing some guy came up with a long time ago, 524 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: and people latched onto it. I personally hate it and 525 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: want people to stop trying to recite it to me. 526 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for the gratitude you expressed for USPS and all 527 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: those that had to continue working throughout COVID. It was 528 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: not easy, and in fact was it times stressful, frustrating, 529 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: and exhausting. But I also felt blessed that I still 530 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: had a job and could continue to provide for my family. 531 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: This is the kind of letter that we love because 532 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: we're hearing from someone who was an expert, who was 533 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: on the ground, who is confirming some things and raising 534 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: some really important points here about conflicts of interest. So 535 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: we can we can do this a couple of ways. 536 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: We can start with the fun stuff and end on 537 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: this villainous postmaster and I'm not being rude here, this 538 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: is an observation it's villainous. Or we can start with 539 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: the bad news and then end on something a little wholesome. 540 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: Do you all have a preference. Let's go bad news first. 541 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: I want to know I don't know anything about this, 542 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: so I want to learn with you. All right, Okay, 543 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: So this guy, the Joy, is the current Postmaster General 544 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: of the United States. The Postmaster General is a UM. 545 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: It's a role like the surgeon general, you know, the 546 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: person who warns you about cigarettes. They're like the king 547 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: of the post office. De Joy is the seventy five 548 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: Postmaster General of the US, and that makes him also 549 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: the Chief Executive Officer CEO of the world's largest postal 550 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: organization period full stop, not hyperbole. He started at this 551 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: job in June of ties, so he's almost two years in. 552 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 1: But he has a lot of conflicts of interest, and 553 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to draw everybody's attention to some excellent reporting 554 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: out of NBC Boston. This is UH. This article and 555 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: specific reveals some documents that detail the conflicts of interest 556 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: that this guy is embroiled within as we record today. 557 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: It comes to us courtesy of a watchdog group known 558 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: as Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Acronym fans 559 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: will note that that that sums up to Crew. So 560 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: outfit named Crew did a FOIA request Freedom of Information 561 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: Act requests that ultimately came through, and a lot of 562 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: as Matt Nolan, I can assure you, a lot of 563 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: FOIA requests get rejected. It depends on what you're asking about. 564 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 1: But these these documents detail how Joy started. Oh, actually, 565 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: let me amend this. He started in but I believe 566 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: it was in May, and he had to recuse himself 567 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: from twelve different companies because he is he's a big 568 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: time guy in private shipping, like the folks who want 569 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: to replace your local post office. Specifically, an outfit called 570 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: XPO Logistics x Bio Logistics is a freight transit company 571 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: that moves through eighteen countries, so they're they're international. Uh, 572 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: they're not. They're not friends of your local mail carrier. 573 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: He also gets a lot of heat politically because before 574 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: he got this position. But we'll say it might ruffle 575 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: some feathers, but the truth is the truth. He was 576 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: a pretty big donor to the Donald Trump presidential campaign 577 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: and then he got this job as like the big 578 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: guy in the post office. What do you think I 579 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: want to stop there? Guys, do you think that's pay 580 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: for play? Does that sound suss to anyone? Yeah? Possibly 581 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: a little suss. Yeah, I mean I'm looking at the 582 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: official statement I guess that was put out by the 583 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: Office of the Inspector General of the United States Postal Service, 584 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: and even what they're just putting out there officially about 585 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: the investigation into the Joy and his spouse. Uh, there's 586 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: a lot of money. First of all, that they had 587 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: in assets, specifically in those competitors you were talking about 588 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: ben uh and they even mentioned ups and J. B. Hunt, 589 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: a major trucking company. There there, of course, conclusion into 590 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: an investigation for I guess said like, he's all good, 591 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: We're good here, don't worry, everything's fine. Yes, The official 592 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: finding was that meme of the dog in a house 593 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: on fire. Everything's fine. Uh yeah, it's It's fascinating because, 594 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: in de Joy's defense, he divested himself from many of 595 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: these companies in August, so a few months after he 596 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: took the job. But for people who are you know, 597 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: citizen watchdogs if you live in the US, these watchdogs 598 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: are a political They're supposed to make sure that we 599 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: hold the leaders and public servants of the country accountable. 600 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: And one guy, know a book Binder, who is the 601 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: president of Crew Citizens for Responsibuilding Ethics in Washington, says 602 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: the following. No one says, quote, there was a period 603 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: of time where the head of the postal service was 604 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: making decisions where there could have been a conflict and 605 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: he could have been thinking about his own financial interest 606 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: rather than the interest of the postal service and the company. 607 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: He's not saying that happened. It's an important distinction. He's 608 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: saying that the opportunity was there. Uh. Call me cynical 609 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: if we must, but I'm not. I'm not persuaded without 610 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: proof that this guy was on the up and up. 611 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of scrutiny and as a matter of fact, 612 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: to what you were saying they still call me mailman. 613 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: There is growing pressure for de Joy to leave office, 614 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: and there protesters because the postal service does get a 615 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: real rough time, especially in recent years or recent decades. 616 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: You could say, and I'm starting to wonder if this 617 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: is a full episode, like they still call me mailman? 618 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: Is asking us because you know, the postal service, we 619 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: take it for granted, but it's a big deal. It's 620 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: it's a really cool thing for a country to have, 621 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: and it works for you, you know, if you're let's 622 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: saying to this in the US. If you're not in 623 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: the US, you can still send us letters. But we 624 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: but we are, we are at time today I suggest 625 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: maybe we end on the the kind of wholesome thing. 626 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: Is that cool? Yeah? Can I I want to say 627 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: something before we get wholesome. I'm gonna put a call 628 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: out right now, guys, right now, to change politics in America. 629 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be silly on purpose. Um. I think 630 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: we need to find a way to get the ultra 631 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: wealthy not so interested in the politics and the political class. 632 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that. I don't think 633 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: it's possible because I think power and money kind of 634 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: go hand in hand up a ladder there. But if 635 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: there is a way that we could mandate, we can 636 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: mandate nonwealthy people to be in positions like a point 637 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: of positions like this that don't have those connections, that 638 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: are actually thinking about the betterment of people like them 639 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: who don't have a lot of money, who need things 640 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: like the postal service. Can you kind of solve world 641 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: hunger and create world peace while you're at it, man, Yeah, 642 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 1: let's do that. We need to have the not hungry 643 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: people feed all of the hungry people. Not just joking now, 644 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: it's just details, right, something must be done. No, you're 645 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: making a good point to There is a growing divide 646 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: in the US in particular, and it's it's honestly common 647 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: in a lot of countries between the people making the 648 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: decisions and the people who deal with the consequences of 649 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: those decisions. Like I I talked about this in the past. 650 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: The average age of a person in the US is 651 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: far lower than the average age of the high muckety 652 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: MUCKs in politics. Also, the average income of a person 653 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: in the US, I suspect, I'd have to verify this 654 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: is probably lower than the average income of the people 655 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: who are making decisions that affect those folks. You are 656 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: spot on. I will say it's a pickle because we 657 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: have that question of um. You know, I used to 658 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: think years ago, many years ago, decades, centuries ago, I 659 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: used to think it'd be awesome to have broke people 660 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: in Congress. I was like, I need someone who's got 661 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: some you know, they've got some debt. They like get 662 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: what the average person is going through. But the problem 663 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: with that is it also opens them up to corruption. 664 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: And that's that's something that the country will have to navigate, 665 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: um inevitably in the future. Off the tail of your 666 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: discussion about the age difference, right, I happened to jump 667 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: onto NPR for a moment on the radio, and I 668 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: was listening to Katanji Brown's Jackson's hearings that are happening 669 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: right now for a Supreme Court the nomination that she's 670 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: like basically just having to talk to all these senators, 671 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: the two senators that I heard speak, I didn't even 672 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: know who they were. I was just listening to their 673 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: voices and it was just someone talking to her like 674 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: this so weird interested to know about this, And it 675 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: was just I mean, it felt that you could feel 676 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: the age difference, just through the voices of people who 677 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: are going to get to decide whether or not she 678 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: gets to have that position. Uh. I don't know that 679 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: this is just an observation. I don't know what it means. 680 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: I think it's not a coincidence that these people also 681 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: sound like the the the Tarnished Undead, you know what 682 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: I mean, Like they very spooky sounding funk. I just 683 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: pictured them with spindingly weird little fingers and claus and 684 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: like draped and cloak. Scott, we've been playing this game 685 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: too much, you guys. We just started. We just started. Also, 686 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: we're at time and for anyone who isn't clear on that, uh, 687 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: the four of us are navigating elden Ring together right now. 688 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: Right now Matt is running point for us, but code 689 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: named Doc and Nolan I are very much on the 690 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: same page. We can't wait. We actually I was talking 691 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: about this on Twitter earlier. We actually spent spent about 692 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: a half hour yesterday just talking Elden Ring because I think, um, 693 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: I think Doc and Matt and I were so excited 694 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: Nolan when when you joined up. So now we just 695 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: got to get mission control on board if we can 696 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 1: get him, Uh, and in the meantime, we can't wait 697 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: to hear your elden Ring stories. Just sow this up 698 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: real quick. We promised you something wholesome. I think elden 699 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: Ring is good, but we want to confirm the words 700 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: of They still call me mailman, and we are going 701 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: to do a postal service episode. The quote neither snow 702 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: nor rain, nor heat nor gloom of night stays these 703 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: couriers from the swift completion of their pointed rounds. That 704 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: is not an official statement. USPS is generally cool with it, 705 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: but it comes from a poem called the Letter by 706 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: a guy named Charles w. Elliott. Thank you very much, 707 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: they still call me mailman. Thank you so much, Old Rando, 708 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: and thank you so much Snickers for telling us a 709 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: little more about the center of the universe. It's a 710 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: shame that we have to call it a day today, 711 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 1: but we will be back next week with more letters, calls, posts, puns, 712 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: observations from you. A gilded gilded runes on the twisted path, 713 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: you know, fast saw good one. The other day, by 714 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: the way, there was one. Sorry, we're elden Ring talk uh. 715 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: It's these little messages that the users can write to 716 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: other people. It's an open world game. Everyone's actually technically online, 717 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: even though you're not always playing with other people. But 718 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: there these little little gilded spots that you can read 719 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: messages people leave you, and they are often quite trolly. 720 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: And it was one where I was just like in 721 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: this place and I was in a seller and there 722 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: was a message that says beware of dead end and 723 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 1: it was just a dead end. But yeah, those or 724 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: you know the internet, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, um, Facebook, Twitter, 725 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: and YouTube. You can find us a conspiracy stuff Instagram 726 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: or conspiracy Stuff show. Uh. You can also find us 727 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: in a more old school way, um, not runes, but 728 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: telephone call. Why not do that? Then you could be 729 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: on one of these episodes that you're listening to. Write now. Yes, 730 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: our number is one eight three three s t d 731 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: W y t K. When you call in, give yourself 732 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 1: a nickname. We don't care what it is. 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