1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:02,519 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Vertical Center. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you and Senator We've got 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: a lot to talk about on today's show, including chaos 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: and anarchy at airports all over the country. Democrats continuing 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: to hold the American people hostage, even after we've paid 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: our taxes and all of these services should be provided. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: Well, we're three weeks into a shutdown of the Department 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: of Homeland Security. Thousands and thousands of employees continue not 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 3: to be paid, including especially TSA agents. TSA agents have 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: now missed two paychecks and as a consequence, a number 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: of them are quitting their jobs. A number of them 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: are not showing up, and the burden on them is enormous, 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: and people are saying it. If you're flying, we're seeing 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: lines at airports two, three, as many as four and 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: five hours long. People are missing their flights, people are 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: missing spring break. And what is infuriating this is all 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: men made. This is all the Democrats. They have forced 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: this shutdown, and they're forcing the shutdown because they hate Ice. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: They're forcing the shutdown because the Democrat Party is entirely 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: about illegal aliens now instead of American citizens. We're going 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: to break down exactly what's going on, what the impasse is, 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: and how this is eventually going to come to resolution. 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: We're also going to talk about the latest of what's 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: happening in Iran, and in particular Iran. President Trump has 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: given Iran an ultimatum forty eight hours to open the 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: Strait of Hormuz. We're going to explain that. We're also 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: going to lay out how Iran has been firing missiles 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: at Diego Garcia, a US British military base, and how 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: that escalation may be bringing the Brits into being more 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: active participants in this military conflict. 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly going to be very interesting to see 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: how that breaks down, and we're going to talk a 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: lot about it in a moment. Want to also talk 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: to you real quick about the people in Israel. They 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: are under siege and they are in desperate need of 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: all of our help. And there's a way that you 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: can get involved and have a real impact right now today, 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: and that is with working with the International Fellowship of 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: Christians and Jews. A sacred season is approaching Passover when 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: we remember God's deliverance, the night he brought his people 41 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: out of bondage and into freedom. This year, many of 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: God's people will observe in darkness under the shadow of 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: war across Israel. 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That's if CJ dot org. 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: All right, Senator, so let's break down kind of where 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: we are with this chaos at airports. I think the 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: media has been very disingenuous about this. Republicans, you've voted 65 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: now how many times to fully fund DHS. 66 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: Seven different times, and so look, the way federal funding 67 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: works is that every cabin agency either has to have 68 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: an appropriation, which is Congress voting to give it the 69 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: money to spend its budget, or there has to be 70 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: what's called a continuing resolution, which is just kind of 71 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: maintaining the status quo. Without one or the other, you 72 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: have a shutdown. Now, we previously managed to pass appropriations 73 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: for every cabinet agency in the federal government except DHS, 74 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: and the Democrats held DHS out, and it's because, look, 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: they are the open border party, and so we funded 76 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: the rest of the government. So the good news in 77 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: this shutdown is our military they're getting their paycheck, Our 78 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: FBI agents they're getting their paycheck. Everyone in the other 79 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: parts of the federal government are getting paid. But at 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security there are hundreds of thousands 81 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: of employees, many of whom are going into work but 82 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: are not getting their paycheck. So for example, the Coastguard, 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 3: they're still required to keep us safe or FEMA disaster relief. 84 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: The guys at FEMA are not getting paid. And the 85 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: one that is most citizen facing is TSA because anytime 86 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: you go to an airport you see TSA. Now, if 87 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: you remember back in right before November, the Schumer shutdown, 88 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: which was the forty three days shutdown, the longest shutdown ever, 89 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: that had a massive impact on airports, and in fact 90 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: that that was one of the things that caused the 91 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: Democrats to cave at the end and finally allow the 92 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: government to be funded. There you had TSA agents not 93 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: getting paid, and you had air traffic controllers not getting paid. Yep, 94 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: one bit of good news here. The air traffic controllers 95 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: are getting paid this time, so we're not facing massive 96 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: shortage of air traffic controllers. But the TSA they're housed 97 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: within DHS and they've now missed two paychecks in a row. 98 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: And look, most TSA agents are not rolling in the 99 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: cash they are living. 100 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: In fact, one of them said to me, I made 101 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: a point when I was at the airport you're not 102 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: fout all the time in hobby and I was flying 103 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: out and I looked at every one of them. I 104 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: was like, hey, thanks for chump for work today, Like 105 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, Like you're keeping America going. And 106 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: one of the guys recognize me from TV and he's like, 107 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: hey man, He's like, can you please let whoever know 108 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: that they're screwing my whole family. He goes like, I'll 109 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 2: tell you I make fifty I think he said fifty 110 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: five or fifty seven thousand a year. He's like, I 111 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: can't miss a paycheck, man, yep. And I was like, 112 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 2: thank you for telling me that. I will absolutely relay 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: your message anywhere and everywhere I can to the point 114 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: you're making When you're making fifty five, fifty seven, fifty 115 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: eight thousand a year, he's got a family. He literally 116 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: cannot miss a paycheck and not have a major consequence 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: on his life. 118 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And for many of these agents, it means they 119 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: can't pay their rent, they can't pay their mortgage, they're 120 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: having trouble putting food on the table. The numbers of 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: TSA agents going to food banks to get food just 122 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: so they can have dinner for their kids. We've had 123 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: more than three hundred TSA agents just resign say look, 124 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 3: I can't do a job where I don't get paid. 125 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: I need to go find something else where I can 126 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: bring home a paycheck and feed my family. Those numbers 127 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: are only going to get worse. Now, look what is 128 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: driving this and and what's driving this is the Democrat 129 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: Party has decided they hate ice and this is all 130 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: about Ice is evil. We must stop Ice. Now. Can 131 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: I tell you the most crazy, ridiculous irony of the shutdown. 132 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: What's that Ice is getting paid? 133 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have failed to shut down Ice because last year, 134 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: when we passed the Reconciliation Bill, we could see that 135 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: the Democrats were getting more and more unreasonable on border security. 136 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: So we funded ICE. We funded ICE for several years 137 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: going forward. So the ICE agents are getting paid. And 138 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: by the way, the Democrats know this. So understand if 139 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: you're waiting four hours at an airport, the Democrats aren't 140 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: doing this because they want to defund ICE. They're doing 141 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: it just because they want to show their base they 142 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: hate Ice so much, yep, that they're going to shut 143 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: down the TSA and it has zero impact on ICE whatsoever. 144 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: But look, I gotta tell you the amazing thing. The 145 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: Democrats don't seem to be concerned at all. And there's 146 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: a big reason for that, which is the media is 147 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: broken in this country. They don't report facts, and so yes, 148 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: the media is not explaining to people. In fact, the 149 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: Democrats are out there claiming they want a fund to 150 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: the TSA. I mean, I mean, they're just gaslighting like crazy. 151 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: And when the corporate media goes along with it, it 152 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: means that that Democrat senators face no consequences for behaving recklessly. 153 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're you're right. 154 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: And one of the things I thought was interesting was 155 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: Sean Duffy was on TV talking about this on Sunny 156 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: morning and he was saying like, like, this is getting 157 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: to the point now where you have to worry. 158 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: It's a dangerous factor. Here. Have a lot of irritated. 159 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: People, you have a lot of people gathering, You have 160 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people gathering outside. I worry about the 161 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: soft target aspect of this. We know about soft targets. 162 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: I worry about that many people gathering outside of an airport. 163 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: You got to worry about about tensions rising. And then 164 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: you also have to worry about the other issue, and 165 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: that is what is this doing to the economy. It's 166 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: going to start hurting the economy. You and I before 167 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: the show today, we both are speaking of an event 168 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: this week we have the conversation about is it better 169 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: to drive? Because it's just so insane what everybody's having 170 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: to deal with right now. How many people are going 171 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: to cancel trips, not spend money, not go to events, tourism, 172 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: spring break, the list goes on and on. 173 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and again, the Democrats are doing this 174 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: because they know their bases is acutely attuned to anything 175 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: that is attacking Ice, anything that is attacking Trump, anything 176 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: that is fighting for open borders, and they feel confident 177 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: that the press will be their petrorreon guard, will protect 178 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: them from the voters know what they've done. So, for example, 179 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 3: I went on Red Events Western Show on Newsmax this week. Now, 180 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: now Greta Newsmax is not some left wing outlet, but 181 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: Greta did her entire opening monologue saying Congress has failed 182 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: and the TSA is defunded because Congress has failed. Congress 183 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: is not doing his job. And she says says it 184 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: like eight times that it's Congress as a whole that 185 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: has failed. Never once does she say that it's the 186 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: Democrats who are voting no unfunding and the Republicans who 187 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: are trying desperately to get it funded. I pushed back 188 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: pretty hard. Give a listen to the back and forth 189 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: between gret and me. 190 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 5: Oughtreach Texas Republican Center Ted Cruz joins me, nice to 191 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 5: see you, sir. Your what were you doing about TSA? 192 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: What were you doing about TSA not getting paid? 193 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: Look, we need to fund them, and we need to 194 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: fund them now. I just heard a minute ago what 195 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: you said. I would respectfully suggest that your remarks should 196 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: should be edited slightly. I agree with every sentiment you 197 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: said except one. You said, Congress isn't paying them. Congress 198 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: isn't paying them, Congress isn't paying them. 199 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: To be accurate, what. 200 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: You should should say is Democrats aren't paying them because 201 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: Republicans have now voted six consecutive times. I voted two 202 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: hours ago to fund the entire Department of Homeland Security. 203 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: I voted over and over and over again. Why are 204 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: they not funded? There is only one reason, because the Democrats, 205 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: on a party line vote are refusing to fund the 206 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: Department of Homeland Security. It takes sixty votes to pass 207 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: the funding legislation. We only have fifty three Republicans, so 208 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: saying Congress is not doing its job is inaccurate. The 209 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: Republicans we are here, we are voting. And the reason 210 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: this shutdown is happening is because Chuck Schumer and the 211 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: Democrats care more about their radical open border extremists than 212 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: they do about doing their job. And it's resulting in 213 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people hurting right now. 214 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 5: All right, I considered saying that, but I'll tell you 215 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 5: why I didn't, because part of the job being a 216 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 5: Republican or Democrat and a Congress is you've got to 217 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 5: figure out a way to resolve things with your opposition. 218 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 5: It can't just be that they're obnoxious or they're obstinate. 219 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 5: There's got to be some way to get them to 220 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: do that. That's just part of the job. And it's 221 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 5: of course you're gonna of course you're going to run 222 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 5: into these walls a lot. There's got to be something 223 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: to be done. I mean, I mean, it's just you 224 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 5: can't just you can't can't just let these people starve. 225 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: Greta. You're assuming that that that the two parties are reasonable. 226 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: The Democrats want a shutdown, and I'll tell you candidly, 227 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 3: I think they're happy to shut down the Department of 228 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: Homeland Security for the rest of the year. We had 229 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: just just a week ago. Brian Shotz is considered the 230 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 3: Democrat leader in waiting. He told a reporter he said, 231 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: we are serene. That's the word he use, serene about 232 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 3: the DHS shutdown. And mind you, we have had four 233 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: terror attacks from radical Islamic terrorists in the last two weeks. 234 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 3: We have a heightened risk of terror attacks right now, 235 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: and the Democrats keep voting to defund the agency that 236 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: is designed to prevent terror attacks. It is reckless and 237 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: irresponsible from the Republican side. Do you know that for 238 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: two and a half weeks, the Democrats refused even to 239 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: sit down and talk with the White House. They just 240 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: voted no, no, no, And their position is we won't 241 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: talk to you. We're not interested to compromise. Our answer 242 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: is no, shut it down. We don't care. It is 243 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: not This is the equivalent of political terrorism. And by 244 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: the way, Greta, if you look to the last shutdown, 245 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: the last shutdown was right before the election last year. 246 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: It was the Schumer shutdown. It was forty three days. 247 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: It was the longest shutdown in American history. Do you 248 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: know what one Democrat aide told a reporter during that shutdown? 249 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: That Democrat aid said, we will keep the government shut 250 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 3: down until airplanes begin falling from the skies. Look, that 251 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: is wildly irresponsible and reckless. And you know why they 252 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: get away with it. They get away with it because 253 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: they're confident that the press will do Greta with respect 254 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: what you just did. 255 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's Congress who's doing it. 256 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: No, it is not. Republicans are voting to fund it 257 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 3: and Democrats are voting not to. And the reason Democrats 258 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: keep doing this is because they don't get held to 259 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: account if I vote against funding, hold me to account. 260 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: But when when they're the one shutting it down, we 261 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: need to take the American people. It is Chuck Schumer 262 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: and the Democrats. The White House has giving them a tongue. 263 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: Have you seen what the White House is given them? 264 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 265 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: No, no, But is there anything here? Says this is 266 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 5: the top, I'll tell you what's going to happen. 267 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: By the way, let's just stop there and go back. 268 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: She's like, can you give them anything? Like it's you're 269 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: the one holding this up? That is the part that 270 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: frustrates me the most. Center is that she's like, well, 271 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: is there anything you can do? Go over the list 272 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: of what has already been given? As you're being held, 273 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: I say, as you, as the American people, as the 274 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: travelers are being held hostage. 275 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: Well, and let's take more fundamentally, the DHS appropriations Bill 276 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: was a bipartisan bill negotiated between Republicans and Democrats that 277 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: came out of the Appropriations Committee with bipartisan support. So 278 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: the Democrats had all of these different reforms that they 279 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: put into DHS that Republicans agreed to. By the way, 280 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: none of those reforms have happened because they won't allow 281 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: it to be funded. Yeah, the White House has been 282 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: trying to negotiate with Democrats, although, as I said, for 283 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: more than two weeks, the Democrats wouldn't even meet. They 284 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: had nothing to say. This was while TSA was not 285 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: getting paid, while DHS was not getting paid. The Democrats 286 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: position was no, we won't even sit and talk. And 287 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: it's why I said. 288 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: Well, and that's you know, it's premeditated. 289 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: The point that you made earlier, like this is clearly 290 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: they decided this is the issue we're going to go on, 291 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: and we are premeditating this and we wanted to hurt. 292 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually even different from premeditated. I think to 293 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: some extent they're in a box. Okay, their base hates ICE. 294 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: If you're a Democrat senator, look here, I'm gonna tell 295 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: you what. John Fetterman tweeted tweeted This weekend, Elon Musk 296 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: stepped in and said, I would like to offer to 297 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: pay the salaries of TSA personnel during this funding impasse 298 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: that is so negatively affecting the lives of so many Americans. 299 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: It was incredibly generous. Elon is a patriot. Here's what 300 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: John Fetterman said, This is incredibly generous. TSA agents across 301 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: the country are relying on food pantries and community donations 302 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: just to get by. I remain the lone Democrat to 303 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: vote with my Republican colleagues to fully fund DHS and 304 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: get people paid. It should never come to this point, 305 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: So Fetterman speaking the truth. Here's the problem. Most of 306 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: the rest of the Democrat senators. They're in a situation 307 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: where they feel if they vote to fund ICE, their 308 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: angry open border activists will never forgive them. And I 309 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: think a lot of them are engaged in political cowardice. 310 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: They're unwilling to vote to fund ICE. Mind you, that 311 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: literally means means that they don't want murderers arrested, they 312 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 3: don't want child rapists arrested, they don't want gang bangers arrested, ices, 313 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 3: narco terrorists. I mean, the ICE is who is arresting 314 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: criminals in the interior of the United States. The Democrat 315 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: political reality is their angry base hates them so much. Look, 316 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: these are the same people that are abolished the police. 317 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: These are the same people that are abolish ICE. And 318 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: so I'll tell you this week, Republican Senators, when we're 319 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: in session, we have lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, 320 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: and then actually we were here throughout throughout the weekend. 321 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 3: We were in DC, so we had lunch Friday, Saturday, 322 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 3: and Sunday as well. And what I'm arguing to my colleagues, 323 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: I said, Listen, I think the Democrats are so wildly 324 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: unreasonable that they may be content to leave DHS defunded 325 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: for the entire year. 326 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: Really, they don't. 327 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: Care about the concert sequences of what they're doing. They 328 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: don't care about the fact that every tsa agent would 329 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: have to quit, and you would literally shut down every 330 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: airport in the country. Like it's there. They believe we 331 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: can blame it on Trump and the Republicans and and 332 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: and that they are there's not a common ground of reasonableness. 333 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, Sean. 334 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: Sean Duffy said on I think it was facin Nation 335 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: Sunday morning that he said, if you if you think 336 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: it's bad now, wait till this coming week when you 337 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: missed another it's it's gonna be worse. And his point 338 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: was you will have so many people quit that now 339 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: you've got a problem that you don't have a big 340 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: enough workforce even when you get back to being funded. 341 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: How concerned are. 342 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: You about that? Is that part of the Democrats plan? 343 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: Like yeah, like it's it's kind of the the way 344 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: that they did would defund the police. Well, if we 345 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: can't directly do it, we'll just drive them so crazy 346 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: they quit their jobs. 347 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: They don't want to be police anymore. 348 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think plan is giving them too much credit. 349 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: That they don't have a plan. They're obeying their angry 350 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: activists who are just screaming. They're just engaged in a 351 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: primal scream and So what I told my colleagues is, listen, 352 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 3: if we're working with people who are objectively unreasonable and 353 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: who may well say, we will never vote to fund 354 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: ICE again, here's what I've suggested. All Right, fine, if 355 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: that's the reality, we should get the Democrats to fund 356 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: all of DHS except Ice. Carve Ice out. Now you 357 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 3: might say, Okay, that's a terrible idea, because then ICE 358 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: doesn't get funded. Remember we've already funded ICE for four years. 359 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 3: So agree to fund everything, accept Ice. And then when 360 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: I urge my colleagues is if they force us to 361 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: do that, we should immediately take up a reconciliation bill 362 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: and fund ICE for the next ten years and what 363 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: I advocated for, and we should increase ICE's budget by 364 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: ten percent. So if that's going to be their price, 365 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 3: we Democrats will never again vote for border security, we 366 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 3: will never again vote for Ice. Yah Then, at the 367 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 3: end of the day, the only way I see to 368 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: solve this problem reconciliation. Remember we've talked about this before. 369 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 3: It is the one procedural mechanism the Senate can use 370 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: that does not require sixty votes, that just Republicans can 371 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: pass it. And so if the Democrats would agree, we'll 372 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: fund all of DHS except ICE. The next week, we 373 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: should come back and do a reconciliation and fund ICE 374 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: for a decade. Because I'm not convinced that these loans 375 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: are going to change their mind in the next ten years. 376 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: I want you to pause what you're doing for just 377 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: one minute, and I want you to hear about Alejandra. 378 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: She lives in a remote community with very few resources 379 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: and little to no healthcare. So when Alejandra gets sick, 380 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: her parents have no real options, no doctors in their community, 381 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: and no money for real medical care. By the third day, 382 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: her body was shutting down. She woke up and just 383 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 2: long enough to tell her mom, I can't take the 384 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: pain anymore. 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What is your 398 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: gut do you think there's a what are the chances 399 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: that we could actually get something done here where then 400 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: things could start to go back to normal, say of 401 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: going in the in the direction they're going now, which 402 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: is these two three and four hour plus waits. 403 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: Look, I don't know. I think there is a real 404 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 3: urgency in the Senate to try to get this resolved 405 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: before the Easter holiday. Yeah, the question is are the 406 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: Democrats going to budge that. There are a few of 407 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: the kind of the Democrats who occasionally will reach a deal, 408 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: who are making noises like they want to, But Chuck 409 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: Schumer doesn't care. Chuck Schumer is terrified of being primary 410 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: from the left. And in fact, I want to I 411 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 3: want to read a little bit from a story in 412 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: the in the wash in the Wall Street Journal about 413 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer. So he has been wildly left wing. Yeah, 414 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: so much so that he's now done the longest shutdown 415 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: in government history. And then he turned around and turned 416 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: around and has shut the TSA down and refused to 417 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: pay them. Here's a story that just came out in 418 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal. Growing frustration with Chuck Schumer spurs 419 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 3: talk of replacing him. And you might say, oh, thank god. 420 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: Maybe some Democrats are saying this is too obstructionist, you're 421 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: too unreasonable. Nope, nope. You know who wants to replace him, 422 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: the left wing because he's not burn it down enough. 423 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: And let me read the beginning of this article. Senator 424 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: Chris Murphy was dining with progressive activists at a French 425 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: restaurant in Washington's Georgetown neighborhood. Could you be more cliche 426 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: as a Democrat than that? I suppose? You know, maybe 427 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: a vegan French restaurant would would make it even better. 428 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: When their conversation about how to advance their legislative priorities 429 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: turned to a thorny question what to do about Senate 430 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. To the surprise of some attendees, 431 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: the Connecticut Democrat, at a rising star in the party's 432 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: left flank, responded that some lawmakers had been doing informal 433 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 3: counts to see whether enough votes existed to remove the 434 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: New York Democrat from his leadership position, According to people 435 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: familiar with the mid February dinner, Murphy explained that Schumer 436 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: had enough backing to remain as leader, but the disclosure 437 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: stood out nonetheless because it revealed the frustration inside the 438 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: Senate had reached a high enough level that some Democrats 439 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: were actively contemplating how to al Schumer. 440 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: Wow. 441 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: Murphy is among a group of senators and top advisers 442 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 3: who have grown increasingly dissatisfied with Schumer's leadership, According to 443 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: people familiar with the conversation who else. That group includes 444 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, who has been initiated conversations 445 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: with other senators to gauge frustrations with Schumer. Some of 446 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: the people said Senator Tina Smith at Minnesota has also 447 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: been active in discussions whether frustration was Schumer. In an interview, 448 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 3: Murphy said he free frequently asked about Senate leadership, but 449 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: he doesn't have account of who would vote to remove 450 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 3: Schumer and doesn't recall mentioning one. In more than four 451 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 3: dozen interviews with Democrat senators and others. Many said the 452 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: concern about Schumer's leadership was widespread, but what are they 453 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: mad at? And this is where it's amazing. Murphy, Warren 454 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 3: and Smith are part of a batch of senators dubbed 455 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: fight Club, who are particularly incensed by Schumer's approach to 456 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: the midterms. This group of progressives believes that Schumer favors 457 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: centrist candidates in some key races, so their whole argument, 458 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: even though Schumer is just saying let it burn, I mean, 459 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: reminds me of Heath Ledger in the Dark Night as Batman, 460 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 3: just saying let it burn. Who cares what happens if 461 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: their terror attacks not Chuck Schumer's problem. If every airport 462 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: is shut down, not Chuck Schumer's problem. If people can't 463 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: pay rent or mortgage, not Chuck Schumer's problem. And yet 464 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: the Elizabeth Warrens of the party say not enough, You 465 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: need to do more. I don't even know what more 466 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: would look like, but that is the reality of where 467 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: Democrats are. And as long as the media does what 468 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: Greta did and what so many other CNN does an 469 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: MSNBC does, as long as they keep covering it up 470 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 3: and pretending no, No, it's not the Democrats who are 471 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: shutting it down. They'll keep doing the exact same thing. 472 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they really will. 473 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: I got to ask you an audible question real quick, 474 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: because you mentioned you're in DC over the weekend. Give 475 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: us a thirty second update on where we are with 476 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: the Save Act. 477 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: We are continuing to debate it, but right now every 478 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: Democrat votes no, and we are not doing a talking filibuster. 479 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: We are not requiring the Democrats to a talking filibuster. 480 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: So I think the expectation is we're going to vote 481 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 3: on it this week and if nothing changes, the vote 482 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 3: is going to go down. I'm President Trump is deeply frustrated, 483 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: as you know, as I talked about, and we did 484 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 3: an earlier podcast which if folks want a deep dive 485 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 3: on the Save America Act, you could have have an 486 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: entire podcast last week devoted to explaining what was going on. 487 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: I think we should use the procedural rules to force 488 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: the Democrats to stand and talk and talk and talk 489 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: and do a full talking filibuster, but we're not right now. 490 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: So has Trump waited on that idea? By the way, 491 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, oh you me, yeah? No, what does he say? 492 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: He's vocally in favor of it. But in order to 493 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: do it, we have to have fifty Republicans stand together, 494 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: and we don't have fifty that that's the fundamental problem. 495 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: Is is is it two or three? 496 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: Look, it's hard to tell. We have fifty three Republicans, 497 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: which means we can lose at most three. There are 498 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: at least four and potentially more that are knows and 499 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: and the problem is you have in particular Republicans who 500 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: are retiring, so they're not going to be on the ballot. 501 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: That makes it very hard for the White House to 502 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: pressure them. If they're not they're not up for reelection. 503 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot There's not a whole lot 504 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: of leverage there. 505 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: All right, I want to move to what's happening in 506 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: Iran right now and some new developments that have taken place. 507 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: You have a new threat from the President of the 508 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: United States of America giving Iran and I'm quoting forty 509 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: eight hours to reopen the sort of horror moves or 510 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: the US will obliterate Iran's power plants. Explain why that 511 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: has not already been done. I've actually had a lot 512 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: of people asking me. They're like, well, why didn't we 513 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: hit those right away. There's a lot of people that 514 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: don't understand the nuance of that. One reason is when 515 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: you do these types of attacks in war, you don't 516 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: want to punish innocent people, and so many times you 517 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: won't go after those power plants unless those power plants 518 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: are directly being used by terraces or by the enemy 519 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: to harm you. That's when it can come into an 520 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: XYZ kind of debate. But explain now why the president 521 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: has ratched this up. And look, every time he gets 522 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: a timeline, he doesn't ever bluff. It seems like there's 523 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: one thing that's consistent. You got ten days to figure 524 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: something out or forty eight hours, you better listen to president. 525 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: So what the President put out on truth Social He said, 526 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: if Iran doesn't fully open without threat the Strait of 527 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: Hormuz within forty eight hours from this exact point in time, 528 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: the United States of America will hit and obliterate their 529 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 3: various power plants, starting with the biggest one first. That's 530 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: a very specific commitment. Yeah, time frame is exact, and 531 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: you're right, there is a long pattern of those who 532 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: test President Trump's time frame ending up on the losing 533 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: end of things. This military conflict to date and in 534 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: the three weeks that we've been engaged in, the US 535 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: military has been focused on military targets. It's been focused 536 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: on air defense systems. It's been focused on short and 537 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: medium term ballistic missiles. It's been focused on launchers for missiles. 538 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: It's been focused on factories and production facilities for missiles. 539 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: Same thing for drone. It's been focused also on Navy ships. 540 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: It's been focused on top personnel, and many of the 541 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: top personnel have been taken out. Look in military conflict, 542 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: it is a significant thing if you destroy the economic 543 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: infrastructure of a country, because when this military conflict ends, 544 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: presumably Iran is going to be able to need to 545 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: function as a country, and if it's ability to provide power, 546 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: if it's ability to its main source of revenue is 547 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: selling oil, if we take out the ability to generate 548 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: oil production, that would have a devastating impact on the 549 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: economy of Iran, much more so than has already happened. 550 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: If all of that infrastructure is taken out, and once 551 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: it's taken out, it can take years and years and 552 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: years to rebuild, and one of the challenges look with 553 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 3: ordinary leaders, cost benefit analysis can work. Here, you've got 554 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: radical Islamist Claire who frankly don't give a damn if 555 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: the people suffer. And so I'm not sure if this 556 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: threat will produce produce different consequences. I think everything that 557 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: has unfolded over the last three weeks was reasonably able 558 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: to be anticipated. And yet the Iatola and the Malas 559 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: they charge down the road anyway, But I think the 560 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: President is frustrated with the Strait of Hormuz being shut down. 561 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: That's having significant effect on oil prices and gasoline prices. 562 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: I will say, also, if you look at what we 563 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: have done in the navy, here's what the chief of 564 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: SITCOM said. More than eight thousand Iranian targets have been hit, 565 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty vessels have been destroyed, which is 566 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: the largest elimination of a navy since World War Two. 567 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 568 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: And and and that was from Central Command Commander Admiral 569 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 3: Brad Cooper. 570 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: This is incredible, staggering. 571 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and yet and much of the Iranian military 572 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: leadership is no longer with us, so so those effects 573 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: are are are quite significant. We have degraded their ability 574 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: to wage war massively. 575 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 576 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: But the question is what is it going to take 577 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: uh to bring this to an end. And and and 578 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: I think the objective from the very beginning should be 579 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: to collapse this regime. I don't particularly care who runs 580 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: Iran after the Ayatola. I just would like to see 581 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: Iran led by a leader who is not a radical 582 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: theocratic Islamist who wants to murder Americans and who is 583 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: murdering Americans. The reason President Trump launched this attack is 584 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 3: because Iran has murdered nearly a thousand Americans. They've been 585 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: actively funding terrorism, attacking Americans, and this is an opportunity 586 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: to put that to an end. 587 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is final question on this. 588 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: You have the real prospect now the UK could be 589 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: brought into this. I actually think that's a good thing. 590 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: If they're brought in. We need more people involved in 591 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: just us in Israel in a big way. Your reaction 592 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: to that after this base has been attacked. That is 593 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: a joint base. 594 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: Well, Diego Garcia is a military base that is in 595 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: the Indian Ocean and it has a prime location to 596 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: project power throughout the Middle East and throughout much of Asia. 597 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: It is a. 598 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: It is a base of the United Kingdom, a British base, 599 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: but they share it with the United States, so we 600 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 3: both have access and use it. I will tell you, 601 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: by the way, I've been very active concerning Diego Garcia, 602 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: because unfortunately chyr Starmer, the very left wing Prime Minister 603 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: of the United Kingdom, is talking about entering into an 604 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: agreement to give Diego Garcia, to give the Chagos Islands. 605 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: Chagos Islands are a series of islands in the in Ocean, 606 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: give them to Mauritius, a country that is very close 607 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 3: to China, and give them the ability to significantly limit 608 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 3: our ability to use Diego Garcia. I've laid out that 609 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: that is a direct violation of the treaty the United 610 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: Kingdom has with the United States, where under that treaty, 611 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 3: the UK committed that Diego Garcia would remain under British control, 612 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 3: that it would not not be given to the control 613 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: of anyone else. And so what happened, I'd been pressing 614 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: back very hard, by the way, President Trump has been 615 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: pressing back very hard, saying for the UK to give 616 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: this away is is lunacy as madness. What happened now 617 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 3: is Iran has fired missiles at Diego Garcia and and 618 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: put that base in jeopardy. And the Brits, remember, at 619 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: the outset out of this military conflict, Starmer said they 620 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: would not participate in any way as a consequence of 621 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 3: Iran attacking Diego Garcia. Starmer has now said that British 622 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: forces will assist in defensive efforts to fight back against 623 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 3: missiles coming out of Iran. So they're still still not 624 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 3: assisting in the offensive activity, but at least the Brits 625 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: are are coming somewhat to the table, and I got 626 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: to say that's an improvement, but it's also very disappointing 627 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 3: to see the United Kingdom not there at the outset 628 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: in this military action. 629 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, and it may be there. 630 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: Kubaiasm isn't working out for them, so now they're having 631 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: to deal with reality. 632 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna get by. 633 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: And by the way, Starmar's Starmer's tenure in office is 634 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 3: every bit is imperiled, as as Chuck Schumer's. The British 635 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: people are very very unhappy with Starmer. He will almost 636 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 3: certainly lose the next election in the UK. Chuck Schumer 637 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: that everyone is very very unhappy with Chuck, and I 638 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: think he will almost certainly lose his next election. I 639 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 3: don't think he can win a Democrat primary, and I 640 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: think there's a real chance he's on the ballot in 641 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight. I think there's a real chance Chuck 642 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: Schumer doesn't even run for re election. 643 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you may absolutely be right on that one. I 644 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: think that the writing's starting to appear on the wall 645 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: there for sure. Don't forget. We do this show Monday, 646 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: Wednesday Friday, So at that subscriber auto download button wherever 647 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 2: you get your podcast. You can also watch it on YouTube. 648 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: If you like to watch the show, do it there. 649 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: You can see it on Facebook as well, and the 650 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: Senaer I will see you back here Wednesday morning.