WEBVTT - Scorched Earth

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 1>These are our stories, Dune done. Hello, good morning, good evening.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in your car. Welcome to That's Messed Up an

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<v Speaker 1>SVU podcast. I'm one of your hosts, Kara Klank.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Liz A.

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<v Speaker 2>Traeger representing those who aren't in their cars.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording. I'm recording from my car. No, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be so wild. Welcome to another up of the pod. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is exciting. The writers strike has been resolved and

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<v Speaker 1>the SAG. We think SAG will be following soon after.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh, stay tuned. Hopefully we're going to have more

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<v Speaker 1>fabulous guests coming to you from.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I keep thinking, like Drew Barrymore, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have waited two weeks, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, and now you have this like stain on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now people will forget it in a minute, like it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter, but it is just like you couldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>waited a couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's so funny to me too. It's like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big part of our lives and we live

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<v Speaker 1>in la like we hear about a day in and

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<v Speaker 1>day out. And then we went to go see some

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<v Speaker 1>of your family when we were in Atlanta, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, so, what's happening, Like they just didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the strikes at all. We were like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about this, and you know, it's just uh funny

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<v Speaker 1>that for a lot of people, it really just like

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't even registered though the auto unions are striking. I

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<v Speaker 1>think right now, unions and strikes and you know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get corporations to be held accountable is a hot

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<v Speaker 1>thing right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard the flight attendants, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My gosh, and you think it's about the lounges.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think it's because of the Delta lodges?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>But I just looked it up and unfortunately, American Airlines

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<v Speaker 2>flight attendant sixty six found dead with sock in her

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<v Speaker 2>mouth in a hotel room ten hours ago.

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<v Speaker 3>What and this isn't out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, an our colleague of flight attendant found dead in Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize, oh my god, what the fuck. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was just gonna look at the strike and

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<v Speaker 2>now there's all these dead flight attendants.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, that's like scary because I guess they like travel alone. No, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I see flight attendants going to a hotel after

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<v Speaker 1>their flight, they're always with a bunch of other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Posts continue without supporting us. Yes, New

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<v Speaker 2>York Post, you are not getting any ads views.

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<v Speaker 3>From me, Thank you very much. Okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In Philadelphia, she was found two days after she was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to check out, which is even weirder.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys are supposed to don't usually check like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple hours after you're supposed to check out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was found by cleaning stuff at like the

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<v Speaker 2>airport Marriotte. No signs of forced entry or struggle, no weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>This is live reporting right now if I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It, this is an SVU episode unfolding. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>end up that the most powerful flight attendant in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City is behind it. They're fighting. Did you be

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever watch the movie View from the Top.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Gwyneth Paltrow and Christina Applegate and it's a competitive

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<v Speaker 2>flight attendant.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I never saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I did, I did, I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I said a few times no, But I'm made public,

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<v Speaker 2>thank god. But the death is considered suspicious and there

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<v Speaker 2>will be an investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say anytime there's a sock in the mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>it's suspicious. I would definitely throw that into the suspicious

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<v Speaker 1>cat column.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, maybe that now's a good time to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>all the travel that we're doing coming up. Guys, we are.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming to a city near you. Please come see us.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode comes out on October tenth, which means we

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<v Speaker 1>will just have been to Buffalo. It means tonight we

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<v Speaker 1>are at the space Ballroom in New Haven, New Haven, Hartford.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a hometown girl. Please do not make me look

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<v Speaker 1>stupid and not have enough people at.

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<v Speaker 4>Our space Ballroom show. Please come see us.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently the venue is really cool. I'm excited to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of my high school friends will be there. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably tell you embarrassing stories about me. Come on, then,

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<v Speaker 1>We're in Burlington this Thursday on the twelfth, and the

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<v Speaker 1>next week Cleveland, Ohio on the eighteenth. Boston on the nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are showing up with the tickets. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, Boston. Keep telling friends and spreading the word.

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<v Speaker 1>The wilbur is a huge moment for us and we

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<v Speaker 1>really would love to have as many people there as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the rest of October is Toronto on the twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>to Troy on the twenty fifth, and Pittsburgh on the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth. And then don't forget Salt Lake City and

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<v Speaker 1>our whole Midwest run happening in November. One last thing

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<v Speaker 1>about the tour, the New York Show tickets. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's in December, and you guys are all like, what

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<v Speaker 1>if I have a holiday party. The tickets are going fast.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a low ticket alert for New York Show, So

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<v Speaker 1>hop on there and get those babies. And that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to Thats Messed Up live dot com for all

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<v Speaker 1>the info, also at the link in our Instagram bio.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's enough of me selling you guys coming to

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<v Speaker 1>see us. What else is going on, Lisa, we went

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<v Speaker 1>to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I'm just announcing, well I have some tour dates,

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<v Speaker 2>so check it out on glitter Cheese. But also I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just announcing I'm gonna be doing an hour in La

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<v Speaker 2>on November two a pipewriter, So come on down to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bu la la, bu la la. Indeed that'd be

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<v Speaker 1>really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, we were in Vegas. We were in Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>and I haven't recovered still. I fully got so sick there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm it's bit I haven't been well. I also won't

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<v Speaker 2>stop smoking weed. That probably doesn't help it. But Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so fun. We had a great day in

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<v Speaker 1>a cabana. Lisa organized a lot of it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like the best birthday. I never do anything

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<v Speaker 4>big for my birthday, and I had a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel at the pool, like that area when

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<v Speaker 2>we were going from the pool to the wave pool,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I'd ever laughed that hard. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>was just really enjoying myself because when we got the

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<v Speaker 2>four there was four of us at that moment, and

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<v Speaker 2>when we got into the pool, these old men next

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<v Speaker 2>to us went they look like trouble, and we did.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they started talking to us, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just kept walking, but we were walking in the water,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're like slow moving away from them. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you from. We're like, LA, have a great night, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we just.

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<v Speaker 4>Kept walking away from them slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Li's only had a man with two sons out

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<v Speaker 2>of the hot tub.

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<v Speaker 1>Our hotel had like two or three pools leading to

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<v Speaker 1>the wavepool, and Lisa go, should we just walk through

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<v Speaker 1>all the pools like lizard people? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great idea. So we lizard peopled our way

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<v Speaker 1>through three pools to get to this wavepool. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the wavepool and our friend that's with us

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<v Speaker 1>is like, I don't know, I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>wave pool aficionado, but she's like huge into wave pools,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like and basically it's like a pretty tame

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<v Speaker 1>wave pool. Like I almost drowned at the Action Park

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<v Speaker 1>wave pool shout out to anyone that remembers Action Park

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<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey aka Traction Park. And so I was

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<v Speaker 1>expecting like torrential like huge waves that were going to

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<v Speaker 1>like knock me on my butt, and they're very chill

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<v Speaker 1>because it's Vegas, like people don't really actually want to

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<v Speaker 1>fight for their lives. And our friend swims up to

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<v Speaker 1>this lifeguard a on a like longboard and is like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when did the waves start? And he's like, they're on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one wave every ninety seconds, and it was so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>She was so disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we couldn't even like you and then the shallow

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<v Speaker 2>you had to stand straight up like there was just

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to drown because I didn't even want

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<v Speaker 2>to go into a wave pool because I do have

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<v Speaker 2>really scary memories from childhood. But I was ready. We

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<v Speaker 2>got ready, We got goggles, we putt we clipped it.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just really prepped to go into a real

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<v Speaker 2>wave pool, like we were going to fight in Sparta, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We were three hundred and then it was barely away.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was the equivalent of like a gust

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<v Speaker 1>of wind every ninety seconds, like blowing the water a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, like it would lift you up a tiny bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But then yeah, once you got washed into the shallow end,

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't sit there like the way you sit on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach and kind of just let like the ends

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<v Speaker 1>of the waves like fall over you. They're like stand

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<v Speaker 1>up straight like all these teens telling us what to do, so.

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<v Speaker 3>But full braces.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also the reason we had to walk through

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<v Speaker 2>the pools is because we had a drink.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't bring drinks. This is my thing too.

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<v Speaker 2>The rules and the wave pool are so strict without

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<v Speaker 2>the wave and that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of rules for very little action.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that's what was like, I can't have a

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<v Speaker 2>high noon in here.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also I ordered like a thirty ounce that

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<v Speaker 3>Lie made That was really fun. Oh it'sy, it was delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just really funny. But then yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I got pretty drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was wild too, because we wanted to maximize our

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<v Speaker 1>time at the pool, so we didn't really nap before

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<v Speaker 1>we went to dinner, and then we went to Drag

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<v Speaker 1>Race Live and then Liza and I were last men

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<v Speaker 1>standing gambling at like you know, late hours. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was but it was so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>But I learned. I learned about roulette.

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<v Speaker 2>So like in my head, I was doing one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>at a time and then kind of building up but

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<v Speaker 2>then losing it. Yeah, next time I go in, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>putting like four hundred in right away and then splashing,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I think that's the only way to win

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<v Speaker 2>big or win at all. I just think one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>at a time was a mistake for me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>should have just like, yeah, I fully committed.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree because I think the guys that we see

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<v Speaker 1>doing well are doing what you're talking about because they

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<v Speaker 1>started with so much and then they just splash their

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<v Speaker 1>chips around the center and like you usually hit, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it's just I just kept hitting a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>like zero or whatever, and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>because I never met on zero or double zero, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I did lose my money.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love hold them, but like it's so intimidating

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<v Speaker 2>in the poker rooms and the tournaments, and like I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't get why hold them can't have a table,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm confused by that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well you played some kind of hold them

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<v Speaker 1>at the very first place and you did well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was called Ultimate hold Them, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>It was like there was more. There was weirdness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there was like a lot of like if you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>a bet, prefly, like you had to put in three

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<v Speaker 2>times the minimum bets. Like things were just wild at

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<v Speaker 2>the Ultimate table. But I did work with an incredible woman,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to her.

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<v Speaker 3>But the first and but the first night.

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<v Speaker 2>In Vegas was confusing to me because it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone is just walking around looking for fun. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>will never hit them, you know, like it's fun to

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<v Speaker 2>go for an event or have something to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>like Friday night was this thing of like if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not clubbing or doing like heinous crimes. Like it was

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<v Speaker 2>just all these It felt like the movie Swingers in

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<v Speaker 2>a way. It was just like everyone like drinking and

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<v Speaker 2>looking around, yeah, waiting for something to hit, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in their little tables, being like what's around here now?

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<v Speaker 1>It was and you always like you see groups like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to link up. I mean, a guy was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to me a lot at the table and

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<v Speaker 1>then I slowly watched him lose two thousand dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>then he kind of just slinked away, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you don't care where I live now, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he asked me what I do for a living, and

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<v Speaker 1>I pretended I didn't hear him. But we had a time.

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<v Speaker 1>And also we saw a couple of listeners, Hello to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that's where I lost my voice. The Drag

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<v Speaker 2>Race is when it all went.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, health at least we saw Drag Race live.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you that know about our drag obsession,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw. The cast was bosco hosted by Asia O'Hara,

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<v Speaker 1>who was amazing and does about seventy five outfit changes

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<v Speaker 1>with wigs that are impeccable. Bosco was in the cast,

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy fucking Davenport, Alexis Matteo, one of my faves, Cocoa

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<v Speaker 1>Montrees and Pangina Heels, who I didn't know about, the

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<v Speaker 1>winner of drag Race, Thailand and China. No no, Pangina

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<v Speaker 1>Heels on China is from the One, Yeah and from

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<v Speaker 1>All Stars.

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<v Speaker 3>They really have to that is too tough for me.

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<v Speaker 1>On Jina, Pangina, a Raja and a Raja, I don't think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that there should be coffy raimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was amazing, like it's it's fun, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>got to see the little numbers that that they worked

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<v Speaker 1>on when I worked on the show were like these

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<v Speaker 1>three original numbers that are in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And then all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Queens got to do like their own big sort of

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<v Speaker 1>show stopper, and Cocoa Montrees fucking pulled it out. She

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<v Speaker 1>did like a whole Janet Jackson thing that I did

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<v Speaker 1>not expect, and she was, you know, she's a Vegas showgirl,

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<v Speaker 1>so they really brought.

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<v Speaker 3>A Vegas show girl.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that is so rue, Paul is they

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<v Speaker 2>like the screams are advertising something every ten minutes I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like by the app, by the bucks, watch this International,

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<v Speaker 2>go to the merchstre.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy House of Love cocktails, buy House of Love mocktails.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so many, so many advertisements.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was crazy, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And I loved all the casinos. I definitely want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Vegas again. I think Vegas needs, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to have a central point, like there needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>an event. Yeah, I guess so. I think there needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be a concert. I think there needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>an event that you're going to to make Vegas make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, like one show like Drag Race Live. You mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I like TV a lean or a thing like or

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're truly like into gambling so much. But I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Vegas to me seems like the best when

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<v Speaker 2>there's an event to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, I feel like every time I

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<v Speaker 1>have gone, I have been going to see like one

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<v Speaker 1>thing like I saw Pink, I saw cher like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>usually going to see something.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that makes sense. But the Lazy River, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we just had fun. We were laughing. We like shoved

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<v Speaker 2>a kid in his inner tube against a wall to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure Kara's hair didn't get wet, and the waterfall

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<v Speaker 2>because of her blowout, and like truly we were like

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<v Speaker 2>injuring children trying to keep our hair dry.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lazy River was something I never could have imagined.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my friend goes, oh, yeah, you could just get in,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I go and.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, what just float like a dead body?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't think so, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>went in once with an inner tube, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>we went in a second time, I did do it

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<v Speaker 1>dead body style, and wow, what a thrill. I was

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and I stand corrected. The current was fast, like

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<v Speaker 1>my body was floating down that river. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is all related to SVU bodies floating

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<v Speaker 1>in rivers. But wow, a really fun time. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of wild cab drivers and I just had. I had

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<v Speaker 1>the best time. I like already thinking about how I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm like, who's performing?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know I would go see.

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<v Speaker 4>I would go see Adele. I feel like it'd be

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<v Speaker 4>fun to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's done. Maybe this was it, yeah, but you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>All kinds of shit is there. I think Miley should

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<v Speaker 2>do Vegas. I'm hoping for a Miley Vegas eventually, because

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<v Speaker 2>her big thing is she doesn't want to tour, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't want to pack on a bus and change

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<v Speaker 2>in a locker room, like she doesn't want that life.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like Vegas is the thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Deba is only doing weekends. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be there seven days a week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no.

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<v Speaker 3>I exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could be in Malibu, hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>your nature, and then fucking fly in baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading, first of all, will be done in

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<v Speaker 1>a second, but I was reading about, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that Courtney Kardashian's company is called Poushe. I

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<v Speaker 1>like hate that word. It like gives me full body shivers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it means, but I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And she had like a big party in Malibu, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was like against all these Malibu rules.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is becoming an increasing problem in Malibu where

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities just have these massive parties and it like blocks

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<v Speaker 1>up traffic and everybody, like Malibu doesn't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>do about it. So I wonder if mit Ley's been affected.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, wait, hold odd, So they just had a party

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<v Speaker 2>and break all the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they have, Like they have these massive

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<v Speaker 1>parties and like just probably capacity is like huge, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they like the entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>The mayor accuses Courtney Kardashian a fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that's it. I think they like lie about

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, Like they fake permits, Like they get

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<v Speaker 1>permits for one thing and then that's not what they have.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn. Yeah, that is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot if this is real or not, or in

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<v Speaker 2>a different country, but that, like tickets and stuff, you

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<v Speaker 2>pay what's comparable to your to your worth. So like

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<v Speaker 2>because rich people will just get tons of tickets and

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<v Speaker 2>parking tickets and it doesn't matter to them because what's

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollars to them five hundred dollars. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a super rich person and you get pulled over,

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<v Speaker 2>your ticket's going to be for two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. Really, it's like comparable. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I made this up or if it's in a

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<v Speaker 2>country or a city.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey, you look it up. This is somewhere out side

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<v Speaker 1>of America, Yeah of course. Oh yeah, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Switzerland. I bet it's one of the dordicks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know, deadmark or something interesting or or I

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<v Speaker 2>just write a thing of how it should be. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it should because rich people just don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll keep paying the red light tickets or like the

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<v Speaker 2>parking tickets, the street cleaning. It doesn't matter to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so hopefully if you are that rich, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a garage. But anyway, they they'll just speed it as

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<v Speaker 2>a matter. So if you make the ticket pricing actually hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they'll follow the fucking rule case he's leading in

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<v Speaker 2>what's the scoop.

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<v Speaker 1>Finland, Liza's former hometown, aggressive punishment when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>speeding tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, the amount depends on your monthly income.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you're right on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's how it should be because like, what does

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<v Speaker 2>Coordinay Kardashian care about violating permits? They could they could

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<v Speaker 2>probably find her tenth dollars and she wouldn't give a shit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she needs to be fined a million dollars and then

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<v Speaker 2>maybe she won't do shit like this. But also, fuck

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<v Speaker 2>that rich ass community. It's like Palm Springs, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have all these rules lights can't be out, don't

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<v Speaker 2>turn on music.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, also fuck the rich people that are like

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<v Speaker 2>so annoyed by the noise.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you can't like talk loudly outside in Palm

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<v Speaker 1>Springs after ten o'clock. It's really crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there's also no street lamps. You have to walk

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<v Speaker 2>around with like a lamp on your head.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, should we get started with today's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I did have one other funny thing that happened in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to a friend there and I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about doing Molly and I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to do like Molly off my hands at

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom at Cole's. And she goes, oh, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to steal from Coals And I go, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>did you take from there? And she goes, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>lift glosses, And I went, oh, me in the store.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean my friend Cole his bar holds the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>So she thought I was doing Molly at Cole's department

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<v Speaker 2>store and that was like my thing. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>how dare you steal from a local bar, you fucking psycho?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what did you take? And then so I really

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<v Speaker 3>liked those giggles.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to both coles, and I would say they're

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<v Speaker 1>both great places to lick Molly off your fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I did not bring my laptop and the TV

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't working, and that was hard for me to sleep

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<v Speaker 2>even though I was fucked up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I thought you went out pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I had podcasts in my ears and I was

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<v Speaker 2>waking up to voices of our friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was twisted. No, I fell asleep with things in

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<v Speaker 2>my ears.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, I lost my EarPods.

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<v Speaker 1>Kill me. All right, let's get started. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>great episode for you guys today as usual.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, Episode one of season thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, season premiere, and it's the first season premiere after

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher Maloney leaves departed. Yeah, after shooting a teen in

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<v Speaker 2>the precinct. Everyone needs a break after that, so we're Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In the beginning, we see a man and he's tying

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<v Speaker 2>a Paisley orange tie. He's really tan, he has facial

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<v Speaker 2>hair in a hotel. And then we see a hotel

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<v Speaker 2>maid and she's so crying and distressed, and then another

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<v Speaker 2>hotel maid runs to her, and then we cut to

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<v Speaker 2>the man that we're assuming is the reason this hotel

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<v Speaker 2>maid is crying and in distress, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He's cheers in to a future grandchild.

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<v Speaker 2>He's on a rooftop bar in Manhattan and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>pregnant woman.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of so like why is this man going?

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<v Speaker 1>May he be a boy?

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<v Speaker 3>What is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen? Like? Oh one?

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<v Speaker 4>Like why how about a healthy baby?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly anyone that does that, I'm against them one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so fucked up. I hate it. So the manager

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<v Speaker 3>calls the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Craigan answers the phone call and gives orders right away,

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<v Speaker 2>so munch in Finn they go to the Park Milano

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<v Speaker 2>hotel where the maid was assaulted in the presidential suite,

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<v Speaker 2>and then quickly he says, live, sorry about your weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>but you got to go to Bellevue and check on

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<v Speaker 2>the VIC. So she's off to Bellevue and the guys

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<v Speaker 2>are off to the hotel and the suspect we find

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<v Speaker 2>out is Roberto Distassio.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Kara?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a nice Italian flair, and he is he's important,

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.200
<v Speaker 2>he's next in line to becoming the Italian prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>And can I just say one quick thing? Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>they say he's basically next in line behind Berlusconi. Who

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<v Speaker 1>Berlusconi was the Prime Minister of Italy for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was the prime Minister of Italy when I

0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 1>lived there. He like we think Donald Trump is a joke,

0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>like Berlusconi is a joke with like capital letters. When

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.399
<v Speaker 1>I was living there, he disappeared for six weeks. No

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>one knew where he was. When he came back, he

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>had a full facelift. Wait, wait, he is the wildest.

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<v Speaker 1>So who was in charge of Italy when he was gone?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like the vice prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what their situation is, but like just

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<v Speaker 1>like there's such a tabloid culture and like they always

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<v Speaker 1>know where he is, and like just nobody knew where

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:38.400
<v Speaker 1>he was for like six weeks and he came back

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and his face was fucking tight as hell and it

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<v Speaker 1>was insane.

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<v Speaker 4>And also he owns like this media company.

0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.640
<v Speaker 1>That basically it would be like if our president owned

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 1>NBCABC ANDCBS, Like there's one other channel like Fox that

0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't own, but he owns three of the major

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<v Speaker 1>major channels in Italy.

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<v Speaker 3>And how did the people in Italy feel about him?

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean from what I thought, I talking to my

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<v Speaker 1>friends mostly he was like a joke. But I think

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 1>that like right wing people like him. Okay, you know,

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>so it just I just thought it'd be like an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting little tidbit that he is like a hilarious, ridiculous politician.

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<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't say.

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<v Speaker 2>Much that he's gonna be he's next in line crown

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 2>like it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But still it conveys the power of how much how

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<v Speaker 1>powerful this guy is for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So so he's he's in the car and he's chatting

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<v Speaker 2>with his driver. He realizes he left his laptop at

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the hotel. He calls the hotel. And because of this tidbit,

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 2>because he calls the hotel, the squad and everyone knows

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 2>that he's off to JFK and they know his location,

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 2>so we know he's heading to JFK. And but no,

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.479
<v Speaker 2>drum roll, it's Amanda Dollins first episode.

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 1>And she is laying on her accent accents so hard,

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<v Speaker 1>so hard. She is ready to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's holding a box and she gives she like

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>gives it to another officer and she goes stash that

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 2>for me, Hun, will you like truly off the fucking

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 2>country boat? And you know, ready to hit the pavement.

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>So her and Craig get like, she's excited to get

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.160
<v Speaker 2>to work. This man takes this box from her. We're

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 2>at the hospital and the victim is Anika Nanni Rose

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 2>and that's the actress's name, and she is the voice

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.239
<v Speaker 2>of Tiana and the Princess of the Frog, so a

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 2>different type of role. But and I'm sure she's done

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>lots of other work, but she's a fucking Disney princess

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty huge. And so her name is Miriam and

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 2>she's explaining what happened to her, and it's pretty detailed.

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 2>But he was in a robe from the spa. He

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 2>locked the door behind him, pushed her onto the bed,

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 2>held her arms back, you know, just pretty fucked up.

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>But she scratched him, and she but he pushed her

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 2>down again and then how do I even say this?

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 3>Whatever?

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 1>So he forced her to give him oral sex basically, yeah,

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>he he forced he like penetrated her orally.

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then she spit it out, and I guess

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>he laughed and said, this is the difference between life

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.880
<v Speaker 2>and love. And I don't know, is it that that's

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 2>a very Italian thing to say after a raping like.

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>And love, like and love. What did I say life?

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the that's Google docs problem.

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 3>That is not me.

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess what he's saying is that if you love someone,

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you swallow or something.

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what he's saying.

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, Oh he's.

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 3>A fucking creepy has fake self tanner on.

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.479
<v Speaker 1>I guess I've never been in love with anyone.

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 2>So then Benson, like the amazing detective she is, asks

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 2>where did you where did you spit it out? And

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 2>then we're back on the scene at the hotel and

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Rollin's helpful off the bat, we are shown that she

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 2>is fucking good at her there was like she found

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 2>some blood and she put a coin down for scale

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and she's there.

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 3>So then wet.

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.399
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of cuts and we haven't even gotten

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>to the credits. So then back to D'sconi. I'm gonna

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 2>call him Desani, And so we see this Italian man.

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>He's in first class obviously, and he's checking the ass

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 2>out of.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.959
<v Speaker 1>The flight attendant. So he's gross.

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 2>And this flight attendant is wearing the chicest flight attendant

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 2>outfit I have ever seen in my life.

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>It is tailored to her body like it is there's

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>not a room for her to drink a glass of

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>water in this fucking dress.

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 2>No, it's red, black zipper on the back. It looks

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>like a Victoria Beckham dress. It does not even Arab

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Emirates gals are not dressed this fucking good. So then

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the cops board the plane, and this is my favorite

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 2>fucking moment. He goes, oh, do you have my laptop?

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Like this is what an entitled man he thinks. He

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 2>thinks that the police in New York rushed his laptop

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>to JK in traffic to give him a laptop, Like,

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you're a fucking numb nut dude. Yeah, I guess he's

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>also a rapist outside of being entitled. But he's like

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>confused to be arrested, so we can get the vibe

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't know what he did wrong, like he

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>is very confused by this. And then he's claiming diplomatic immunity,

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 2>which seems like an insane thing to ever exist.

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand that.

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>So if you're work at an embassy, you go to

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>another country, you can commit all the crimes you want and.

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 3>Leave at m peace out. I don't understand.

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's I think there's definitely rules, but

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I've definitely been confused and disgusted by diplomatic immunity before.

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>For sure.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I just really don't get it.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>So we have this guy in the interrogation fish tank

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>and Finn gives a little so he gives a clue

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.959
<v Speaker 2>that Staylor's not around, and he says Stabler would have

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>loved to fucking go at him, which he would, so Munchfin,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Craig and Rollins are having like fun cop chats and

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 2>in walks. The lawyer of the guilty, Marvin Xley Ron

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Rifkin plays him and quick fact about him. He was

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>an Orthodox Jew until the age of thirty two and

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>also born on Halloween. So Marvin Xley. And then after

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Marvin Xley, we get another surprise of a fucking lifetime.

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Alex Cabot is back from the Congo. I mean, we're

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I could I was shrieking. I mean I've seen this

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>multiple times, but this was huge.

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>She she was inspired by the story of Narda Lee.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 3>Remember that episode.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, I remember she left, but I didn't know

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that she was gonna come back. No, that log of

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>her on the stand haunts me for life.

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that was a wild episode.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>But now so they're filling in Cabot, filling her in,

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and then we have Rollins talking about the com saliva

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>mixture and.

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>She goes nice juicy cocktail from the drain, so that's

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Rollin's we get to know about her. We learn that

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the maid, Miriam has two sons. Their father is dead

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and he was killed in a fight. And she's like, listen,

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I hear he's a rich guy, Like what is this

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 2>even worth it?

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 3>What am I going to do?

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 2>He's so rich, And Benson's like, don't no, this won't

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 2>be easy. But we don't care who he thinks he is.

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>But he's going to jail, so that is a nice moment.

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>And then we have another man with an accent who

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 2>comes in defending his friend. He's letting us know that

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 2>the perp was actually playing golf with the President of

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the United States, so he is highly connected.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>There are so many people in this episode. So then

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Bureau Chief eighty.

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>A Michael Cutter walks in and he was He has

0:29:55.760 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like David Cassidy type hair from the sixties and a

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>sharp nose and he's a good guy.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 3>On all accounts. I believe.

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any strong No, I think he's a

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>little forgettable, but he's a good guy. You unlike hadide

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you have the feeling that this guy's

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>like for the victims and like wants to do good.

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm into him.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>And then what we learn from Cabot, She says, diplomatic

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>immunity helps you from prosecution, not from arrest. So confusion

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>of diplomatic community grows and grows.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>So you can get arrested, but you can't be prosecuted.

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Then what's the point. I don't really, Okay, I don't whatever.

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I have no freaking idea.

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>It's it's very weird, and I think if you work

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>at them beceive, you should have lost.

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure somebody that well, somebody that listens and is

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>like a criminal rule or like a law in law

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>school or something, tell us about this diplomatic community thing.

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>We don't. We're not. We're having a hard time with it.

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Go on, and then this is a very shocking moment

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>for me an SVU where so Miriam is being brought

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>into the precinct at everyone stops, it becomes silent.

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 3>And they stare at her. Are you not the Special

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 3>Victims Unit?

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a really weird moment because a million victims

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>have walked through that door and I've never seen that before.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was very weird. And she's like, they're all

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>staring at me. She also does not like it. And

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>then we see that there's a lot of other maids

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 2>from the hotel being questioned. Now Rawlins is fangirling Marishka.

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh my god, I studied all your cases.

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with you. I'll do anything you need. And

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I guess they all have heroes too. I

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize that cops like follow each other's cases and have.

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>True Like I don't know if the cops down in

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta are like researching New York cases.

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 3>But it's cute.

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like a cute little dynamic to set up.

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, She's just like, he're my hero. I love you

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 3>so much. So that's that.

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And then Marishka's like, I have work to do, like

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>get away from me. But whatever, so we've uh He's oh,

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 2>a little thing is he charged the hotel on his

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>personal card, not his business card, So like, does this

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>immunity hold up if this was a personal right vacation,

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 2>because it seems like he was just there visiting a

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>grand kid or whatever. So we get the VIC statement

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>she is from the Sudan and she came here on

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>political asylum. Benson is looking at Stabler's desk longingly. She

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 2>is missing him so much she cannot live without him,

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 2>and Craigan says, listen, it's up to Stabler, like, I

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know what you want from me.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm not at the charge.

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>At this point, we don't know what's up. We know

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>he's been like sort of semi suspended or like under

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>investigation for the shooting. We don't know if he's coming

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>back or not. Yeah, thank you.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So then they do a lineup and my dream is

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 2>to one day be one of the fake people in

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a lineup like that seems like really fun because I

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>love to doing jury duty and this seems like a

0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>good time too.

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>But Lisa, much like with your audition, you wouldn't be

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>able to smile. You can't go out a lineup and

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>be like, hi, you're.

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Right, oh god.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 2>But hopefully one day someone that looks like me because

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it's a crime and I can go.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 3>On in there.

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no more crimes forever. But you know, at one

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 2>time did have a stunt double and it was a

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 2>great day of my life. Oh I thought that, Yes, yeah,

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 2>it was really fun. So in the investigation, she ideas

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 2>him in like zero point five seconds. I've never seen

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 2>an id so fast, And Marvin Exley looks a little worried.

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 3>And then Finn's dumb ass, Oh no, not fit my

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 3>bad time. So who says this though?

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Fuck that was a lawyer, No Roberto, he says it.

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>He goes on the word of a maid and Finn goes,

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>my grandma was a maid. And it was like, snap, yeah.

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>You don't fuck with Finn. I was like, Finn would

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>not talk shit about maids, and I was right.

0:33:58.720 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 3>I just wrote it back.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 2>And so then Craigan gives a speech to the whole

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>precincts of like we're under a microscope considering a stabler

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 2>killed a girl in the squad room. So please mind

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>your p's and q's, do everything, buy the book, do

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>not fuck this up. And they're gonna try to spoil

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the victim anyway possible, like fine toothcomb, do your job.

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 2>We are under investigation. And then we get Benson speaking Italian.

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 2>She loves throwing that on there.

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Course Benson speaks Italian. She speaks Spanish. I think she

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>speaks a little bit of French. She's into the she's

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>into the romance languages, Hungarian's She's a romance language girl,

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>plus a little bit of Eastern Europe shaken in there,

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess.

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>So Melinda Warner has a great quote and she says

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 2>DNA is like God, it's everywhere, and I really liked that.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's when she's, you know, getting samples off of

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 2>the Italian guy.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's also an interesting thing to say to a

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>guy who thinks he's God. Like this guy thinks he

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>can get away with anything, and it's like, you know,

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>what's God? DNA is God? Like DNA will fuck you?

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Like Rollins is always she's always do She always does

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>this because we learn later that she was she grew

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>up in an abusive household, so it makes sense to

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>like kind of identify with the power position, like for

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 2>survival whatever. But she's always trying to discredit the victims.

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, and this is the beginning of why

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I started to hate Rollins. And then she you know,

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 2>her fucking sister. But so she's like, come on, why

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 2>are we doing this just a maid? Something's fishy. I

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.720
<v Speaker 2>don't believe this, And then of course gets a quote

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 2>in and he's like power corrupts absolutely or something like that,

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, just some nonsense absolute absolutely.

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he's a book of quotes, and so then

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Rollins says my favorite thing where she's like, did anyone

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>try to talk to him? I'll do it, And so

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>she brings her sexy ass down to where in the

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 2>holding cell and she starts trying to manipulate him getting information.

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Being on his side, she brings him Italian food. It

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 2>looks like melted lasagna. It does not look good and

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to eat it. But you know, he's

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>playing along a little bit. He's giving her nothing. And

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>then at the end he says, later I will be

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 2>free and you will be out of a job. So

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, Rollins, he saw through your game, like

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>you're I don't know.

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>He also thought she could like flirt her way into

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>getting some information from him or something.

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's like he's a political I don't know.

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Which has worked for Rolins. It does go on to

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>work for Rollins, it's just in this case it's not

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>really working.

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right.

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 2>He also said something that fucking enrages me an Italian

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's man has fact and woman has words and

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, go away, Okay. So then Cabot's back

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 2>to work, she's you know, doing things, and wildly he

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>gets remanded to Rikers, which's pretty shocking for someone that

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>rich and powerful, and so that was like pretty exciting.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 2>So Stephanie March, thank you for your wonderful work. So

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>they're in a motel, which I don't under They couldn't

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>leave her in her house. I was confused why they

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>had to be in a motel or does she live

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 2>in a motel.

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Us for her safety? I think okay, I think because

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it's such a high profile case they had to move her.

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 3>They could have getten her a nicer room. I'm sorry.

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it wasn't a great motile.

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>She's in distress.

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>So she, Benson and Cabitt are there and they're like,

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 2>are you lying? Do you want money? You have to

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 2>tell us everything. And this is when we learn about

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Miriam's gruesome past.

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And she.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Was gang raped after her husband was killed, and these

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>people had like the blood of her dead husband on them,

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was just like this awful rape past that

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 2>she had and we're back in the precinct and uh oh,

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>who is it?

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Iab rolling on in.

0:37:56.920 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 2>So Craigan and Benson are talking about the Stabler shootings

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>and he has six shootings. Now, I love Elliott Stabler,

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:06.240
<v Speaker 2>that's too many.

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, he also has like he also

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>has like use of force on his jacket, like he's

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of.

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Problems and refuses to go to therapy like that's the thing. Yeah,

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy. It's like can you oh, I don't know.

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 2>And then Benson's just fighting. I'm like, you're trying to

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>give him up, Craigan, this is not okay. They were

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>they were good jobs, blah blah blah. And Craigan's like,

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 2>I have his back.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Shut up. It's just like he did.

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>And he's like all he has to do is a

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>psychical and anger management and Benson is like he would

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>never do that.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 3>It's like that is a problem.

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, right right, those are pretty easy things to do

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.919
<v Speaker 1>to keep your job and your career that you supposedly love. Yeah,

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you're so against anger management. Bro, you killed a team.

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah love Stabler, but after thirteen seasons you shot that's

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>an average of one shooting one person every other season,

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like that's too many people.

0:38:56.160 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, And then but I do love Benson in

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>this moment. Her hair is half up, half down and

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>it's a little messy, and it's probably one of my

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 2>favorite looks.

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>That yeah, I say, I noted that as well. I

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>did like her hair a lot in this episode. I

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>fucking love it.

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 3>So the Italian man's wife is here and she's telling

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 3>the cameras.

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 2>He's amazing, He's amazing, and they kiss and hug in

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:21.919
<v Speaker 2>front of the cameras, and she has like she has

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 2>two string of pearls around her neck, so you know

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>she's uber wealthy, you know what I mean to giant pearls.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 3>And he gets house arrests.

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.879
<v Speaker 2>And now the gang they meet up at a bar,

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>cop bar, peanuts on the table, and they're here to

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>have philosophical discussions I.

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Guess about their friend Stabler.

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 2>So they're at the bar and Benson's like, we need

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 2>him back, and Finn with some smart insights, like he

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 2>shot a girl, he might not want to come back,

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not a IAB, it's not the system. It

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>might just be a person decision on his part. Maybe

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 2>he wants to hang out with his daughter who needs help, Like,

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>leave him alone, but I would love to know where

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 2>where he went. Is he doing private security for Rihanna,

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>for rich people? Is he did he get a pension?

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Did he open a corner store? Just?

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Is he preaching?

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 4>Is he he turned into a Catholic breeze?

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? No five kids?

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, about to say I think he likes to fuck

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 2>too much. So then uh oh cover of the newspaper.

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Miriam lied, not lied, I take that back. Basically another

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 2>hotel maid sold her out. Audio recorded her talking about

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>how like this guy's rich, I'm gonna get millions of

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 2>dollars from him.

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna, you know, try to get all this cash

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 3>from him.

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 2>And it's like that doesn't negate it, And if you

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>were attacked by someone, why couldn't you be like I

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 2>want him in jail and I want tons of money

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>from him, Like I don't.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't see how that is so bad.

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 2>But she wasn't honest, and the defense is going to

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.879
<v Speaker 2>spin this like she just wants the money and it's

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 2>not real and what the fuck this coworker, you dumb bitch,

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 2>And then you know they're asking Miriam, They're like, did

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>you hire a civil attorney.

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 3>She did, which is bad. But the rape is consistent

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 3>throughout the story. That's what you know.

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Like in the tape, explaining it to the girl is

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 2>the same way she explained it to everybody else. And

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>they're discussing, like what's going to happen, and then this

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 2>is said Ada Mike says, perception is not reality, and

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 2>so that's what a lot of rape cases seem to

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 2>come down to, is like how you can make the

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:52.240
<v Speaker 2>jury think of someone and what actually happened does not matter.

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 2>And then Benson gives Rollins like a good job when

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>she tracks another hotel maid who was pushed on the

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 2>bed by Todstasio but stop, but he stopped attacking her

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 2>when she screamed, and Rollins is just so happy Benson

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:08.359
<v Speaker 2>gave her a good job.

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 3>She's smiling ear to ear. She is fucking pumped. And

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 3>now we are at trial.

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>We find out that she was convicted of prostitution in

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>South Sudan, but she says it's because like she was

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.439
<v Speaker 2>raped and when she went to the police, they called

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 2>her a whore, said she broke shariah, sharia sharia lah,

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>that she broke sharia law, and that they would stone

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 2>her to death. And so it just brings up the

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 2>magnitude of like the world and patriarchy, power, money, and

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 2>how hard it is for people all over the world

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>to get justice in any way. The Ada, who I

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 2>said was a good guy, is annoying the shit out

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 2>of me. That is the note I have on my paper.

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't think they're going to win, and Benson actually

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 2>doesn't believe her anymore, and the new wants to drop

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 2>the charges. The Ada and Cabot are fighting. They're having

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.280
<v Speaker 2>lawyer agreements about ethics and what's right and what's wrong

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 2>in Cabot's manipulating him and being like, I heard you're

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the best, but you ain't shit, And so they're carrying

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>to having this conversation and now we're we have this

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 2>amazing testimony scene and the lawyer has games up his

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 2>sleeve and it's fucked up. He's like, you lied on

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>your documents. When you enter the US, they asked if

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>you'd been convicted of a crime, and you said no,

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 2>and you had been convicted, so you're a liar and

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you lied about this. And it's just like anyone on

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the jury that is tricked by this. It just infuriates me.

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like, if you're trying to get into a country

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and escape an awful situation and help your children live

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 2>a better life, you're gonna say anything. Yeah, like what

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 2>does that have to do with being raped? It's just

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:53.720
<v Speaker 2>so fucked up the games that they play. But yeah,

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 2>it just pisses me off.

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 1>And it is also crazy, like what you have here,

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Like how does that mean when someone lies once? I

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>mean they're always a liar. Like you can literally talk

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to some of my teachers in school. I probably cheated

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>on a test once. That doesn't mean I'm a forever

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>liar cheater and I should never get justice for anything

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that happens to me.

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Correct, And it's just like such a privileged place to be, like, well,

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 2>why would you lie in this application?

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 3>It's like because if she didn't.

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>She has to stay in the Sudan.

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Like fuck you.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.839
<v Speaker 2>And then Finn is the one with Finn is very

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 2>wise this episode, and he says what I've been saying,

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 2>like he's trying to get her kids into the country,

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 2>like damn, leave her the fuck alone. And then Benson

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 2>brings up a really good point. She says, it's one

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>thing to be consistent and one thing to be verbatim,

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 2>And we see this a lot in SVU. It is

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 2>suspicious when the facts never ever change. And yeah, so

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 2>this happens a lot, and Finn is like, but don't

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 2>you think the guy did it? And Benson rolls her

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 2>eyes in a way I've never seen like so aggressively

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>annoyed by Finn, and I loved it. So then the

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 2>motherfucker Italian guy takes the stand and he is saying like,

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I would never pay for this. Why would I have to?

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like so powerful and cool. Women love power. She

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>knew exactly who I was. She wanted to do this,

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 2>she asked for it, and then afterwards said give me

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 2>ten grand or I'm gonna say you raped me. And

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 2>it's like, if this was the truth, why wouldn't you

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 2>say it sooner? Why wouldn't this be the first thing

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 2>out of your mouth? Like this did not happen. And

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>second of all, I don't think Miriam is that good

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 2>of an actress to start like crying in the hallway

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>after this happened. And no one's just I mean, I

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 2>that's not true, But I don't think many people are

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 2>just asking it to give blowjobs willy nilly at their job,

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm just gonna say that, but if you are

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 2>someone that likes to do that, I'm not judging you.

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 3>But get fingered a little. Okay.

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, he is just talking bs and I hate

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 2>him so much. So then Cabot gets to cross examine

0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the witness and she starts grilling him.

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 3>She does an incredible job.

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 2>She's like, well, you have fucking injuries and she was

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 2>fighting you off, like excuse me.

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, that's like the game. That's what women want,

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Like they just want this power struggle. Said, it's part

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of the dance, doesn't He yes, yeah, and.

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 2>He goes, it's in the woman's eyes, no matter what

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the words say. And she goes even if the word

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 2>is no, and she's scratching and fighting and crying and

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>asking for help. Five minutes later like that is your

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:34.399
<v Speaker 2>that's your cue to keep going, you fucking piece of shit,

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 2>and some glad cab It just did an amazing job.

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.479
<v Speaker 2>And then the heartbreak of the episode, if it wasn't

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 2>heartbreaking enough, we get another witness for the defense that

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 2>just came forward and it's a Sudanese man who helped

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>her fill out her form and he said that the

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 2>best way to get into the US is to get raped.

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.280
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, no, don't say one soldier, say twelve.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 2>And basically he told her to lie on this application

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 2>and now out of where he's flying in to testify

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 2>against her.

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 3>What the who is this? Yeah?

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>It's so crazy. Also, she is saying she was raped

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.839
<v Speaker 1>and he just increased the number of people, like she

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>was actually raped. Just he just made it twelve people

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>instead of one person.

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but like, are you reading the news and deciding

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna fuck over this woman that I helped?

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 3>I just who? I just don't understand this guy.

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this, this.

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Guy just comes over to screw this woman over and

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 2>then cabot zingers and she goes, So you coach people

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 2>to lie, that's your job. Closing arguments. They both do

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>a good job. I don't know what to say. It

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 2>was good and the jury is taking so long and

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 2>she's like is that a good sign or is that

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 2>a bad sign? And the jury is unable to have

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.840
<v Speaker 2>a unanimous verdict and I was like so scared it

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 2>was going to be a mistrial, but the judge is

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 2>allowing it.

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Something new. I learned in SV all the time, I

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that was possible.

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 2>And so it comes back and we get on count one,

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:03.240
<v Speaker 2>he's innocent but count to guilty and he's fucking shocked.

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 3>We're all shocked.

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.879
<v Speaker 2>And they started to celebrate too early when they said

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 2>he was like innocent on count one, and so I'm

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 2>happy he was arrested. And the judge said he'll do

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 2>one year at Rikers, which obviously for a rape is

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 2>not adequate amount of time, but for a rich, powerful

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 2>guy like this, I think this is a win. Honestly,

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 2>like to have him do a year is amazing. So

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 2>then we're back in the precinct and Craigan tells Benson

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 2>to close the door and Elliott put his papers in

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and there's nothing Craigan can do about it, and Benson says,

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's earned it, and she doesn't want to

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 2>talk to Craigan about it. She does not want to

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 2>take a day off. Are you kidding me, Craigan? Murshka

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 2>does not take a day off ever, ever. Ever, she's fine,

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and she's cheering up, but she's okay. And then the

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 2>job never stops, and immediately we get a call ten

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 2>thirty four on Waiver and Benson and Finn are gonna,

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, roll to the case and hearing Waverley reminds

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 2>me of Waverley in and it's such a good restaurant

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and oh my god, I want to go there. So anyways,

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Benson locks herself into into an interrogation room and starts

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 2>to really cry, like fucking cry, panting breath cry. She

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 2>is so sad that's her guy, and it's an intense cry.

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like, it's like that scene is like

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>if you ever thought that she didn't have like more

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>than just good best friends cop coworker feelings for him,

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Like she is heartbroken in this scene. Like this is

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>not just like, oh snap, who's gonna get me coffee

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>and go to the diner with me at four am?

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Like this is like she is devastated that he is not.

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 3>Going to be with her every day.

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I was watching the Office girls Angela and Pam on

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Watch What Happens Live, and they were saying on the

0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 2>end of the office they all cried hysterically. I don't

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 2>think they're all fucking each other and romantically into but they.

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Are at the end. But yeah, that's true. And look me,

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I cry when anything ends. I used to cry at

0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>after my dance recital every year because I was like,

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it's over, even though I was starting

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>two months later. Like again, like I cry when everything ends.

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>But it just feels like he's still going to be

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 1>in your life. You can still talk to him, you

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 1>live in the same city. But I don't know, I

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>just feel like there's something that cry is really intense.

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 2>It is intense, and obviously she loves him more than

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 2>just like a casual partner. But I yeah, that's the whole,

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 2>not the whole, but that is an element of SVU

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 2>and why we love it is their dynamic and their love,

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 2>but also they've been through so much. But there is

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>a clip with Benson with a Marishka Harga day talking

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 2>about the relationship and she was saying, how like why

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 2>there's been more romantic interests for her post Stabler is

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 2>because she did love him so much that there was

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 2>no room for another man in Benson's life.

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've seen that club.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know, as she letting us know that

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 2>there was more, I don't know, I don't know.

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, let's take a quick break and when we

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>come back We're going to get into the extremely, extremely

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>similar true crime that this episode was based on.

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Let's get into this.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 1>This story is so closely based on the story of

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Dominique dress Con. This incident happened in twenty eleven. May

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>fourteenth of twenty eleven. I was living in New York.

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>This was all over the newspaper. This was like the

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>story like so huge, so huge. I did not know

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:46.720
<v Speaker 1>who this man was in advance, but apparently anyone interested

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in like international economics, policy politics knew who he was.

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>He was a very well known person, which is no

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>one not we know personally, which is no one that

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I talked to or hang out with or me. So.

0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Dominique dress Con was a French economist and politician, but

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.920
<v Speaker 1>most notably, he was the managing director of the IMF,

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 1>which is the International Monetary Fund, from two thousand and

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:12.359
<v Speaker 1>seven to twenty eleven. He spoiler alert resigned following a

0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:15.719
<v Speaker 1>sexual assault scandal. This is that story done done. On

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 1>May fourteenth, twenty eleven, Nafesatu Diallo, who is a thirty

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>two year old made at the Safitel hotel in New York,

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.360
<v Speaker 1>alleged that the sixty two year old Strauss Khan sexually

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.279
<v Speaker 1>assaulted her in her suite. That's the overview. Now it's

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.919
<v Speaker 1>funny because you were talking about the Park Milano. That

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:33.520
<v Speaker 1>is a that's clearly trying to be like an Italian

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 1>style hotel. The Safti Tel is a French style hotel,

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 1>which is a real hotel in New York. It's on

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>forty four Street between Fifth and six, which to me

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 1>is not where I would want to stay. It's like

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Times Square, but it is like a fancy hotel. When

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I worked at a terrible job in recruiting when I

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:50.600
<v Speaker 1>first moved to New York, we used to put some

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of our recruits up at the Safti Tale. It's like,

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it's very nice. So now this entire scandal is happening

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of against the backdrop of the financial crisis of

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:04.479
<v Speaker 1>the late two thousands, like early twenty ten's like eight nine,

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, twenty eleven. So the IMF helps to consult,

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 1>they intervene in policies, they shape global economies. It's a

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:13.839
<v Speaker 1>very important organization, and he is the head of it.

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 1>So this is like a very powerful, wealthy, internationally renowned

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:20.319
<v Speaker 1>person who is at the time thought to be the

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 1>next president of France. So the president at the time

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>was Nicholas Sarkozy, and I think he and Dominique strauss

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Khan very much butted heads, and I think he was

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:34.719
<v Speaker 1>planning to run against him. Dominique strauss Khan DSK. We'll

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>just call him DSK going forward is to like going

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to take up a lot less time. He is actually

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a member of the Democratic Socialist Party, so he is left.

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>He's left leaning, he's left wing. So there are creeps

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the aisle. I know, we hear

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot about right wing guys, like, you know, having

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 1>affairs and doing all this stuff. But I always acually.

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:55.799
<v Speaker 2>When people are like, oh, that Democrat and it's like, yeah, no,

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>we know everyone does it. Yeah everyone, They're all bad painter, artists, teachers.

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about.

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I hate when they like the parties kind of

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:07.359
<v Speaker 2>like get some sick joy when someone from the other

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:08.720
<v Speaker 2>side commits an assault.

0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Well it's like your abusers, right, But I do think

0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it is there is something sort of satisfying about catching

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:18.879
<v Speaker 1>a right wing person in sort of like a homosexual

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:22.879
<v Speaker 1>situation after they've been anti homosexual for a long time,

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 1>being bigger than for a long time. I kind of

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>love that get or something I thought about that, or

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like getting caught doing a shoe tap in a bathroom

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:32.759
<v Speaker 1>when you've been like anti marriage equality. I love that

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 1>hypocrisy being called out as always yeah, always chair.

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:41.080
<v Speaker 4>So he is leading the polls in France.

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 1>He's leading in the polls as like the left wing

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>candidate a year out from the presidential election. Okay, they

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.839
<v Speaker 1>showed like I watched this documentary of him that's called

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Room twenty eight h six The Accusation. It's on Netflix

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>right now. It's a four part documentary. Very interesting if

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you want more information on this case. They show him

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:01.200
<v Speaker 1>wearing a yes we can T shirt like Kahn, like

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:06.359
<v Speaker 1>his last name. Very funny. So basically May thirteenth, he

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:09.800
<v Speaker 1>checks into the SAFI Tel New York. He is upgraded

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to the presidential suite, bringing any bells. He asks repeatedly

0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 1>for a female employee to bring champagne to his suite.

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So there is a consistency in him asking employees to

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 1>go to his room. So that night the thirteenth, he

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:26.040
<v Speaker 1>went out. He came home with a female companion in

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night. She leaves a few hours later,

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I should mention he is also married. He is married

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 1>also to an extremely wealthy woman. She's worth much much

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 1>more than him. Nafisatu Diallo, on the other hand, is

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 1>an immigrant. She's a single mom. She is an immigrant

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:42.880
<v Speaker 1>from West Africa, from Guinea, and she came to the

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 1>US for a better life. Now she's living in the Bronx,

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>in a low income part of the Bronx, and she's

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 1>commuting every day to one of the richest neighborhoods probably

0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in the world, but also in the city. But she

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:55.479
<v Speaker 1>is super happy with this job. She says, it pays well.

0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.319
<v Speaker 1>She's in a union, she has benefits, Like she's really

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>jazzed that she got this job at the Safie Tawl.

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Now she's going upstairs on This is May fourteenth, the

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 1>day after he brings home his little uh companion. So

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the fourteenth, a room service guy tells her that he

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>has checked out. So she knocks three times and says housekeeping,

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:18.439
<v Speaker 1>no answer, So she opens the door and like she's

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 1>giving this interview in the documentary, and she's crying. It's

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like really really, like it gets you. She checks the room.

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no bags, no laptop on the desk, nothing. She

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't see anybody, you know, she has said housekeeping several times.

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Suddenly he comes out naked. She covers her eyes and

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 1>starts apologizing, like, oh, I'm so sorry. He grabs her

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:39.799
<v Speaker 1>breasts and goes, you don't have to be sorry. He

0:56:39.840 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 1>pushes her on the bed. She begs for him to stop.

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:44.399
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't want to lose her job. She even has.

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.279
<v Speaker 1>He says to her, you won't lose your job, Like

0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that's how powerful this guy thinks he is, that he

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 1>can do whatever he wants, and like nothing's going to

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 1>happen to you, babe, like I'm important here. And she

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:56.160
<v Speaker 1>even makes up a lie on the spot to try

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to get him to stop. She goes, my supervisor's right outside,

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:01.760
<v Speaker 1>like that's not true, but she's freaking out. She describes

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 1>him as like a monkey, like an animal, like he's

0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 1>pawing at her and trying to get her clothes off.

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 1>She's resisting. He pushes her down onto the ground and

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:12.000
<v Speaker 1>forces himself into her mouth, exactly like what happens in

0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the episode. She spits it out. She feels disgusting and dirty.

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 1>She runs outside, and then she sees him walking down

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the hallway. Five minutes later with his bags. So I

0:57:21.960 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 1>find that very interesting too, that it's like later they're

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>going to claim it's consensual, So you just have like

0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a consensual thing. And then she runs out of the

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 1>room and then five minutes later, you're rushing out of

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the hotel with your bags.

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Is that usually how.

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:36.439
<v Speaker 1>You're consensual sexual affairs go? Why did her coworkers say

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that he had checked out? Maybe when he went into

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the room to pick up the trays, she didn't see

0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy. Maybe he was in the bathroom.

0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 1>That's good, that's a good detail question, But they don't

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>get into that. So her supervisor comes and had never

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>seen her that way before, and you know, like she's

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>concerned about reporting, so she's not sure she wants to

0:57:57.240 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>report it. They take her to the security office, tell

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 1>them what happens. She goes, and that's how the drama started.

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Drama being like something that changed her life forever. She

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 1>scared to go to the hospital. She's scared she's gonna

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 1>lose her job. They get her statements, and she is

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 1>always consistent and credible throughout everything, like she knows exactly

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 1>what happened. She says what happened, and basically an hour

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 1>passes from the time of the attack and the time

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of the nine one one call. She didn't want to

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 1>call the police, and the two heads of security kind

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.240
<v Speaker 1>of convince her to call the police. And then this

0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>is very interesting since it's a hotel, there's cameras everywhere, right,

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the two security guys, two heads of security, they kind

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:40.760
<v Speaker 1>of go into this side room that looks almost like

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a kitchen, like I don't know, it's some you know,

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>back hallway of the hotel, and they on camera do

0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:49.560
<v Speaker 1>like a victory dance. They hug each other. It's like

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 1>their team just won the Super Bowl. And so that

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 1>comes into play later like that they have this on tape,

0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>like why are these guys celebrating They people think that

0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like themselfelebrating that they've effectively ended this man's career.

0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 1>But other people are saying, oh, they're just excited that

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>justice is going to be done and that they convinced

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>her to call the police. So there's two sides of that.

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Now they want to arrest, they want the police, want

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to find him. They don't know where he is. Then

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>ripped from the pages of a law and order Resvu script.

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 1>He calls the hotel and says, I left my cell

0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:25.240
<v Speaker 1>phone behind instead of a laptop. Now it's a cell phone.

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:28.040
<v Speaker 1>He stated that he was at the Air France lounge

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>at JFK, and so the police take off and go

0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 1>right there, and exactly like on the show, DSK is

0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>seated on an Air France flight about to take off.

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>The Port Authority police board the plane. On the show,

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, they let Finn do it, and they let

0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Munch do it. Many times they've arrested people on a

0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 1>plane about to take off. I think normally it's the

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:50.040
<v Speaker 1>port authority police. He gets handcuffed and taken off the plane,

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and he specifically asked for them to like put his

0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 1>jacket over the handcuffs so that when he's walking through

0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the airport it just looks like a man walking through

0:59:58.160 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the airport with two other men, Like it doesn't look

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 1>like he's being.

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, hauled off like a purp walk.

1:00:03.560 --> 1:00:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Did they do it?

1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah.

1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:09.919
<v Speaker 1>He tried to act like he had diplomatic immunity, which

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:11.760
<v Speaker 1>is not true because I don't think he's a diplomat.

1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:15.240
<v Speaker 1>He's just an important international figure. He's not an actual diplomat.

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 4>They examine her.

1:00:17.560 --> 1:00:21.360
<v Speaker 1>In her physical examination, they find bruising on her shoulder

1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and neck. Her pantyhose has been ripped. They find sperm

1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:25.919
<v Speaker 1>on her blouse mixed with her saliva. So it's all

1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you know backing her story. They take her through the

1:00:29.360 --> 1:00:33.160
<v Speaker 1>crime scene and the cops that talk in this documentary

1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:35.280
<v Speaker 1>were like, she seemed like the victim of an assault.

1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Like she like, there's an outcry witness, there's always the

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.320
<v Speaker 1>person that not always, but in many cases there is

1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:43.840
<v Speaker 1>a person that the victim goes to immediately to tell

1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.360
<v Speaker 1>their story. She had eight outcry witnesses, like she told

1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:49.320
<v Speaker 1>her supervisor, she told the security guys, she told like

1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:51.439
<v Speaker 1>within an hour of this happening. She had told many

1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:54.440
<v Speaker 1>people about what happened, and her story didn't really change

1:00:54.440 --> 1:00:58.480
<v Speaker 1>her waiver. So they were racing to question DSK before

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 1>he lawyered up, but he got a lawyer too quickly.

1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:04.560
<v Speaker 1>His lawyers obviously say that there was no force or violence.

1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:08.240
<v Speaker 1>It was consexual. It was conceptxcusing. They say it was consensual,

1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But then the cops are like, if it was consensual,

1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:12.680
<v Speaker 1>why didn't they have sex on the bed, why did

1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they go down into this weird hallway in the room.

1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Why was she forced onto her knees? Why did she

1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:20.760
<v Speaker 1>spit out the ejaculate flea outcry. It's like it's too many.

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:24.040
<v Speaker 1>It's also nine minutes because there's cameras everywhere, they know

1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:26.320
<v Speaker 1>exactly how long she was in that room. For like

1:01:26.720 --> 1:01:29.040
<v Speaker 1>nine minutes is a pretty like short amount of time

1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to like go in, make a connection, decide to have

1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a consensual sexual thing, and then run out.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Kara, but we're we're gonna use consexual. We need

1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:44.320
<v Speaker 2>to come up with what that means.

1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:50.840
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I love it sexual. So they she exactly

1:01:50.880 --> 1:01:52.800
<v Speaker 1>like in the episode, she does a lineup, she picks

1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:55.600
<v Speaker 1>them out of the lineup twice, like no problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>She feels like throwing up doing the lineup because she's

1:01:59.160 --> 1:02:01.240
<v Speaker 1>so close to him, and she says, I would never

1:02:01.280 --> 1:02:03.400
<v Speaker 1>forget his face, the person who did this to me,

1:02:03.520 --> 1:02:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Like of course he has several charges. His charges include

1:02:07.920 --> 1:02:11.640
<v Speaker 1>at tempted rape, on lawful imprisonment, criminal sex act. They

1:02:11.680 --> 1:02:14.680
<v Speaker 1>have him in holding and the press show up and

1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:18.960
<v Speaker 1>like the press on this is enormous, Like I think, huge, huge, huge,

1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Like this is like a celebrity. But on top of that,

1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:25.240
<v Speaker 1>there's international news stations that are interested in it. So

1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not just like CNN and whoever coming by a

1:02:27.640 --> 1:02:32.240
<v Speaker 1>New York Post. It's like, you know, French newspapers, German, Asian,

1:02:32.360 --> 1:02:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like everyone's coming over from everywhere to like check out

1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:38.000
<v Speaker 1>this story because he's such a huge international figure. And

1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:41.600
<v Speaker 1>so she gets home from the night, this whole day

1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of being interrogated, she hasn't even be able to take

1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a shower or like rinse her mouth out, like from

1:02:45.720 --> 1:02:49.280
<v Speaker 1>this horrible incident. And she turns on the TV in

1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:51.560
<v Speaker 1>her house and it's immediately all over her TV in

1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the news, and she's freaking out because she didn't know

1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:56.680
<v Speaker 1>nobody told her this guy is French, this guy is

1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:57.280
<v Speaker 1>this huge.

1:02:57.320 --> 1:02:59.040
<v Speaker 4>She knows he's powerful, I think.

1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Because he's in the presidential at her expensive hotel, but

1:03:01.840 --> 1:03:03.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she knows that he's this huge, huge

1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:07.040
<v Speaker 1>figure and that this is such an international news item.

1:03:07.520 --> 1:03:11.760
<v Speaker 1>So she gets really upset, and eventually so many people

1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:13.480
<v Speaker 1>start coming to her home to try to talk to

1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:15.440
<v Speaker 1>her because they track down where she lives that she

1:03:15.480 --> 1:03:17.919
<v Speaker 1>actually has to separate from her fifteen year old daughter.

1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:19.680
<v Speaker 1>She has to go stay with relatives.

1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think she like rape victim protection laws in

1:03:22.920 --> 1:03:27.040
<v Speaker 2>that way, like you can't release names and information and

1:03:27.120 --> 1:03:27.720
<v Speaker 2>stock rape.

1:03:27.720 --> 1:03:31.240
<v Speaker 1>There is there is I know that there are you

1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:33.880
<v Speaker 1>don't release names of rape victims, but there's always ways

1:03:33.920 --> 1:03:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that people find this stuff out. I don't really know

1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:38.320
<v Speaker 1>how they all knew where she lived, but they were.

1:03:38.680 --> 1:03:42.080
<v Speaker 1>In the documentary, there's footage of people going to her

1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:45.440
<v Speaker 1>apartment building and trying to like talk to neighbors and everything.

1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:48.120
<v Speaker 1>So this is an event that like completely changed her

1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>entire life. So in the episode leads, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we actually covered this, but Craigan says, take him

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<v Speaker 1>out the back, no purp walk, and then they do

1:03:55.680 --> 1:03:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it anyway.

1:03:56.480 --> 1:03:58.720
<v Speaker 4>They give him a purp walk, and it's like really.

1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Like a ton of cameras. That's exactly what happened in

1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:03.920
<v Speaker 1>real life. They purp walk DSK like in the episode

1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:06.440
<v Speaker 1>they talk about purp walks in this documentary where they

1:04:06.440 --> 1:04:09.320
<v Speaker 1>say they've been going on for decades, like and they

1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:11.760
<v Speaker 1>were like, listen, listen, we tell the media when we're

1:04:11.760 --> 1:04:13.960
<v Speaker 1>going to come out with the purp because we just

1:04:14.000 --> 1:04:15.280
<v Speaker 1>want them to get their shot and get the hell

1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:17.160
<v Speaker 1>out of there. Otherwise they hang around for twelve to

1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:19.640
<v Speaker 1>fourteen hours a day outside of our precinct waiting for

1:04:19.680 --> 1:04:21.919
<v Speaker 1>this person to come out. So it kind of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the lawyer for DSK says, they're totally pointless

1:04:25.240 --> 1:04:25.920
<v Speaker 1>purp walks.

1:04:26.160 --> 1:04:28.160
<v Speaker 4>They just give police a moment in the sun and

1:04:28.400 --> 1:04:29.240
<v Speaker 4>they only serve to.

1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Embarrass the accused. So but it's massive, like the number

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<v Speaker 1>of people that are like standing on vans and like

1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:38.720
<v Speaker 1>everyone's taking photos of him, Like it's a ton ton

1:04:38.800 --> 1:04:41.520
<v Speaker 1>ton of people because they're transporting him from a certain

1:04:41.560 --> 1:04:44.480
<v Speaker 1>precinct I think, to like a downtown courthouse. People in

1:04:44.520 --> 1:04:46.480
<v Speaker 1>France like do not believe that he's done anything. They

1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:49.760
<v Speaker 1>think this is a plot to sabotage his presidency. And

1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like they show in this documentary, they show all

1:04:52.400 --> 1:04:55.200
<v Speaker 1>these clips of like gross old white guys going this

1:04:55.280 --> 1:04:58.320
<v Speaker 1>man does not know violence, like he's a womanizer, but

1:04:58.360 --> 1:04:59.920
<v Speaker 1>he is not violent. It's like, how could you know

1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:01.680
<v Speaker 1>about your friend? How could you know that have you

1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:03.480
<v Speaker 1>ever been in a sexual encounter with him? Like you

1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:06.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know what he's into. So obviously through all this

1:05:07.000 --> 1:05:09.240
<v Speaker 1>they unearthed a ton of shit about him. He is

1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:14.640
<v Speaker 1>this like wild womanizer. He is a real sexually free

1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:17.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of dude, And I don't judge him for any

1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of that, Like because he goes to swingers clubs, he

1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:22.040
<v Speaker 1>goes to sex clubs, I'm not judging any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>He did have an affair with a senior staffer at

1:05:25.200 --> 1:05:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the IMF who claimed that she was harassed into the

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<v Speaker 1>affair that like because of his position at the IMF,

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<v Speaker 1>she felt she was like damned if she did and

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<v Speaker 1>damned if she didn't, and so she was like forced

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<v Speaker 1>into this affair with him. The IMF did their own

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<v Speaker 1>investigation into that affair and said it was inappropriate, but

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<v Speaker 1>they did they found that he had no wrongdoing and

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't physically force her, but she felt forced

1:05:46.280 --> 1:05:48.960
<v Speaker 1>by the power imbalance, which is exactly what me too,

1:05:49.000 --> 1:05:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and Harvey Weinstein and everything is about.

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<v Speaker 4>She got a divorce, her career suffered.

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<v Speaker 1>He got off completely scot free, like so typical like

1:05:57.280 --> 1:06:01.080
<v Speaker 1>thing that you say, she did lose her job, I think, yeah,

1:06:01.080 --> 1:06:03.520
<v Speaker 1>she stopped walk she stopped working there, and I know

1:06:03.640 --> 1:06:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that her she was made redundant later, yes, she was fired,

1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:09.760
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, and he got nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>So his behavior became like a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is for the IMF thing, This is for

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<v Speaker 1>the Oh okay, sorry, that's what I'm talking about. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about his affair at the IMF that would

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<v Speaker 1>happened earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so his behavior was just like a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>To people, like upset about that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's just like.

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<v Speaker 3>A Don Juan.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like, oh, he goes to swingers, he has swingers parties.

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<v Speaker 1>He has this like unbridled sex life. And apparently his

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<v Speaker 1>very wealthy wife was always just kind of like now,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't I believe him, Like she just never like

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<v Speaker 1>she just couldn't see him for who he was, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she did see him for who he was and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he is a major adversary of Sarkozy, the

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<v Speaker 1>president of France, who thought that his sexual proclivities would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely preclude him from ever being president of France. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this guy's never gonna make it. He's too

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<v Speaker 1>It's like how we all thought Donald Trump's never going

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<v Speaker 1>to be president. He's been married three times with different

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<v Speaker 1>kids from different baby mama's, and like he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way, but I think there can be a way.

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<v Speaker 1>So DSK before this trip, right before this trip to

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<v Speaker 1>New York, he reveals that he thinks he's being surveilled

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<v Speaker 1>by like Sarkosi and like Sarcosi's government, that he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>his phone calls are being tapped, his emails are being

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<v Speaker 1>looked at, and that he thinks Sarcose's building a case

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<v Speaker 1>against him. So this is some real house of card shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then two days later after this, two days after

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<v Speaker 1>the assault, a member of his own party speaks up

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<v Speaker 1>and says that he assaulted her daughter, a twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>year old journalist, nine years earlier, and they interviewed this woman.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a very gorgeous French woman. So this French journalist,

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<v Speaker 1>when she heard the story, she couldn't even She thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was made up. She thought the maid made up

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<v Speaker 1>the story because it was so identical to her own story.

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<v Speaker 1>She thought, this woman has heard my story and is

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<v Speaker 1>repeating it to try to get him, because that's how

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<v Speaker 1>similar they were. Basically, she interviewed DSK. He said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to talk more, let's meet up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He invited her to an empty apartment where he turned

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<v Speaker 1>off her recorder that she plays on the table, He

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<v Speaker 1>attacks her. They like fight on the floor, and she

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<v Speaker 1>said he seemed very excited by the violence of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but she got away. She ran out before he could

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<v Speaker 1>actually like assault her. I mean he assaulted her, but

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<v Speaker 1>before he could you know, further it And she said

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<v Speaker 1>it was basically like a scene from a horror movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So back in New York. So now this woman's name

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<v Speaker 1>is Tristan and she is she is now thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>pressing charges against him because it's like she's like, as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I keep trying to bury this story, it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps coming up that this man like assaulted me. So

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<v Speaker 1>now we're back in New York with DSK and his lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>One of his lawyers is Ben Brafman, King of New

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<v Speaker 1>York Defense Attorneys, who has represented Michael Jackson, Harvey Weinstein, Puff,

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy jay Z and a bunch of mob guys. So basically,

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<v Speaker 1>so DSK is facing seven charges and a possible seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four years in prison. Okay, prosecutors do not want him

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<v Speaker 1>to jump bail or they said even if he was

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<v Speaker 1>under house arrests, like, who's to say he wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>this again to some poor delivery person or something. And

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<v Speaker 1>they mentioned that he may have committed this crime before.

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<v Speaker 1>So he is actually much like the episode not granted bail.

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<v Speaker 1>He is remanded to Rikers, which is exactly what happens

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode and is very shocking that that would

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<v Speaker 1>happen to such a rich, well known person. They offer

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<v Speaker 1>him to do an electronic anklet, they offer all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and they're like, no, he's remanded. He's not granted bail.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't scream out, he doesn't freak out, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything bad in the courtroom, Like he just says

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<v Speaker 1>to his lawyers, okay, just like get me off, like

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. So he gets moved to Rikers. He's on

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<v Speaker 1>suicide watch there. His lawyers truly feel like he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be released or he will be attacked or killed

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<v Speaker 1>at Rikers because Rikers is notoriously horrible, and they think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be I don't know if they had the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to put him into solitary or away from gen

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<v Speaker 1>pop or whatever. But and amongst all this, he resigned

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<v Speaker 1>from the IMF and his wife stands by him the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time. And there's like he has like an assistant

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<v Speaker 1>in the documentary who's like the saddest moment of my

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<v Speaker 1>life was writing up his resignation letter. I started crying

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. I was like, lady, get a life,

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<v Speaker 1>look at your This guy is disgusting anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>So a lot like what happens in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time he appears in court, there is like an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing protest outside the courthouse of women, like women are

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<v Speaker 1>going nuts. A lot of people do think that the

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<v Speaker 1>DSK trial was the start of the met too movement

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<v Speaker 1>because it this reflected a lot of what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on at the time. There's like huge protests maids from

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<v Speaker 1>other hotels, like the union.

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<v Speaker 4>The Maids Union busts them all in.

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<v Speaker 1>Got them all there, probably paid them while they were protesting,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was really cool of this union. So

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<v Speaker 1>they they bring him back to court because he appeals

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<v Speaker 1>the bail. He now does get bail, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>in rikers for a few days. But then he does

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<v Speaker 1>get bail. He gets a home detention to ankler monitor.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to have an arm guard that he pays

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<v Speaker 1>for if there's any problems at all. If he does

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<v Speaker 1>anything wrong, he will be remanded again. So his rich

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<v Speaker 1>wife rents this luxury apartment in Tribeca, which of course

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<v Speaker 1>there are photos of because there's real estate sites and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone's publishing these photos of like where Dominique draus

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<v Speaker 1>Khan is like in jail, in like a huge loft

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<v Speaker 1>apartment in Tribeca. And then he has a lot like

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<v Speaker 1>the friend that you talk about in the SVU episode

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<v Speaker 1>who comes in and is like, this is the farce.

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<v Speaker 1>He has this friend who's another politician or some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of high up guy from France comes over. He's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the only people that the judge approves for DSK

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<v Speaker 1>to have a visitor, and he suggests to him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the way the courts work in America, you really only

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<v Speaker 1>have to convince one juror that you're innocent. And New

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<v Speaker 1>York has such a high Jewish population and DSK is Jewish.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, you really need to get the Jewish community

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<v Speaker 1>on your side. So then publicly, two or three times

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<v Speaker 1>he has rabbis come visit him at this Tribeca loft

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<v Speaker 1>for just.

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<v Speaker 2>All for the I just don't understand why the judge

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<v Speaker 2>allowed him to have a friend. It's like, you're already

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<v Speaker 2>in this luxury apartment. How do you now get friends

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<v Speaker 2>to come hang out with you?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I guess, because like you're allowed a visitor

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<v Speaker 1>in jail, so I guess you're allowed, but those I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know it. Those are recorded and observed. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know it's crazy. It's crazy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why how this guy got in, but then this

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<v Speaker 1>guy and this guy goes it's a little trick we played,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew he was going to get off, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like to basically, yeah, to try to get

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<v Speaker 1>a Jew on your fucking I don't think every Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>person's just going to say another Jewish person's innocent.

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<v Speaker 3>But and who are these morally bankrupt rabbis?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know it's gross.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think morally bankrupt and.

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<v Speaker 1>Morally corrupt fey Resnik. Yeah, So they appoint this special

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<v Speaker 1>investigator to kind of like double check everybody's stories. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this guy. He's in the documentary. He comes

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<v Speaker 1>across like a full asshole. He's on DSK side. Immediately

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<v Speaker 1>they brought Diallo in for interviews, and she didn't speak

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<v Speaker 1>good English. She didn't speak English to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>she was confident enough to give her testimony in English,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they got a translator. He thought he's at

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<v Speaker 1>one point noticed her correct the translator in English. So

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks in his mind she's fucking lying about not

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<v Speaker 1>speaking English, and like, why aren't we doing this in English?

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<v Speaker 1>You understand English, you speak English personally as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>like I lived in Italy, I speak Italian. When the

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda Knox case happened, I'm like, that girl's biggest mistake

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<v Speaker 1>was that she gave all hermony in Italian. She probably

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<v Speaker 1>did not speak good enough Italian and she got completely misunderstood.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have a fucking translator in your native language

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<v Speaker 1>or in the language that you feel the most comfortable in,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what she did. That's us to say she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't speak any English. She speaks some English, but she

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<v Speaker 1>felt more comfortable doing it in her own language. And

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<v Speaker 1>this guy thought that was a huge red flag because

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a translator, it gives you a moment

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<v Speaker 1>to think about your answers. That's what his big point was. Sucks,

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<v Speaker 1>they find a sixty thousand dollars deposit in her bank account,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a red flag. Sketchy. She says her fiance

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a bank account and that that's his money

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<v Speaker 1>that he put into her bank account. And it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out this fiance is in Arizona in jail for drugs

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what this has to do with anything,

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<v Speaker 1>because as long as you can trace it, the money

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come from like Sarkosi, it didn't come from the

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<v Speaker 1>President of France trying to get you to frame DSK.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really understand why it matters where this money

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<v Speaker 1>came from. As long as you can locate the original

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<v Speaker 1>where it did come from, and that's it. She tells

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<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend on a recorded call in jail, don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>he has a lot of money. She denies that she

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<v Speaker 1>said this. I mean, I don't know if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>tape or whatever. This. So the investigator that I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy that I hate is, says he thinks she's

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<v Speaker 1>a con artist. He says, you know, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>whether she knew he was a high wealth individual before

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<v Speaker 1>she entered that room, but I think she did. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he sucks. It's kind of insane to think that

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<v Speaker 1>this woman, who by her own admission, cannot read or write,

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<v Speaker 1>but is actually part of a huge conspiracy where she

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<v Speaker 1>was hired by the President of France to take down

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<v Speaker 1>the president of the IMF. Like it's just too much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit too much. I think of a story.

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<v Speaker 1>She told a story to the investigator about being raped

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<v Speaker 1>by a dozen soldiers in West Africa, exactly the same

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<v Speaker 1>as the episode she cries. She hits a very emotional story,

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<v Speaker 1>and then later she admits to the police that she

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<v Speaker 1>made that story up. And she said a guy she

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<v Speaker 1>met helped her do her application for asylum, same as

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<v Speaker 1>this fucking guy that they got. I mean, we thought

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<v Speaker 1>that they created this insane character on us view, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is really what happened. This guy said it would

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<v Speaker 1>help her application for asylum to say that she was

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<v Speaker 1>gang raped, and gave her a tape of a woman

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<v Speaker 1>telling her story of this happening to her. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why she had so many details and could kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mimic the emotion and stuff like that. And she had

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<v Speaker 1>a bad lawyer in the Sudan who told her to

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<v Speaker 1>make things up for her asylum application. And like we

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<v Speaker 1>already discussed, you can see why people do that. They're

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<v Speaker 1>coming trying to escape a terrible situation. So now she's

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<v Speaker 1>just under so much scrutiny, like they're interviewing her so

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<v Speaker 1>many times, and people on the DSK side are saying

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<v Speaker 1>that she cried rape after he stiffed her for money

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<v Speaker 1>after they had sex, and that she's a sex worker.

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Post, so they run a front page

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<v Speaker 1>story calling her a prostitute. And then yeah, now we're

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<v Speaker 1>at the trial. Like I said, her union shows up,

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<v Speaker 1>they're supporting her, like all these people are there with

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<v Speaker 1>signs like and you know, essentially, her lawyers are like,

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<v Speaker 1>a nine minute sexual encounter does not add up to

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<v Speaker 1>like a consensual.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's just that doesn't It doesn't add up,

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<v Speaker 1>Like none of this is making sense. But the prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the case moved to drop the charges

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<v Speaker 1>because they cannot prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>So the defense doesn't even enough.

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<v Speaker 1>To do anymore. The prosecutors are like, we just can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. We cannot make this an air tight case.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecution on August twenty third, So now it's been

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<v Speaker 1>June July, always been three months. This case moved really fast,

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<v Speaker 1>three months the prosecution later, the prosecution says, the witness

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<v Speaker 1>was untruthful with us several times, and this means that

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot in good faith ask a jury to believe

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<v Speaker 1>her testimony.

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<v Speaker 4>And the indictment is dismissed. And he's speaking, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, oh yeah, it's so infuriating, And can I just

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<v Speaker 1>say she had to tell her account of what happened

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen times or more. He never had to say anything,

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<v Speaker 1>He never had to say what happened, He never had

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<v Speaker 1>to testify, he never had to like not nothing. So

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<v Speaker 1>her interviews are really really heartbreaking, and she says she's

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<v Speaker 1>just like in this documentary, like it's really worth watching.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, there's just they don't do anything because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a nobody. Like if I was somebody, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>put him in jail for a long time. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm nobody, And that's it's fucked up because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true because I really do think people know her

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<v Speaker 1>name and know then like she helped bring a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of awareness to this person.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's not running for president of France anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So, if anything, you stopped him from becoming more powerful

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<v Speaker 1>than he already was. And his lawyer brags that this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of his greatest successes and it's disgusting. So

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<v Speaker 1>just to follow up, a year later, he is implicated

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<v Speaker 1>in a pimping scandal and they have this woman in

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary who's like I was offered fifteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to spend a few hours with him. She had a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible sexual encounter with him, where he did things she

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<v Speaker 1>did not want him to do. She was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>allowed it to happen because I need the money. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's crying talking about it, like it was truly clearly

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic for her. He denies knowing any of the women

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<v Speaker 1>at these little parties. He goes to our sex workers.

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<v Speaker 1>So in twenty fifteen he's acquitted of aggravated pimping. So

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<v Speaker 1>now this is like multiple charges against this man, like

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<v Speaker 1>multi public accusations. Unfortunately, Tristan's case was dropped because of

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of evidence and a three year statute of limitations,

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<v Speaker 1>but she says she feels that her and Diallo the

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<v Speaker 1>Maid were instrumental in the me too movement. So ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, Diallo talks in her interviews where she says,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that many women feel more comfortable coming forward

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<v Speaker 1>and like I've helped people, even if like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get justice, and she feels good about that. She did

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<v Speaker 1>reach a settlement with DSK that is confidential, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>reported to be one point five million dollars and Dominique

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<v Speaker 1>Schreskhon has no criminal record to this day.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, this blows yuck. And does he work now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's consulted well. That rich wife finally left him

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<v Speaker 1>after the pimping scandal. He has a new hot wife

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<v Speaker 1>and he still consults and makes money off of doing

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<v Speaker 1>being an economist. And I don't think his political aspirations

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<v Speaker 1>will ever get to where he wanted him to be.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll never be the president of France. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still working and living and fine. And I actually

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<v Speaker 1>looked up that Nafisatu Diallo has opened a restaurant in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bronx called Shaye a Mina. I think, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you are in the Bronx or anywhere near, please order

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<v Speaker 1>from there.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn that sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe the prosecution just gave up like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They Yeah, I think they were just like, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>make this case air tight, which is pretty wide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that means that they just care about their

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<v Speaker 2>record and winning and losing. It's like, oh, you could

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<v Speaker 2>have swayed the jury. There could have been moments he

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<v Speaker 2>could have still been guilty, like right. That upsets me

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<v Speaker 2>that they wouldn't yeah, in that case I made he

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<v Speaker 2>was guilty. Yeah, who's cy Vance.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the District Attorney of New York for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and he was the one that chose to

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<v Speaker 1>drop the charges. But yeah, and she had like she

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<v Speaker 1>had an organization that was backing her throughout the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like, this is racist. If this was like

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<v Speaker 1>a black man that committed this crime against like a

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<v Speaker 1>white woman, this would be totally different, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's like there's a lot of layers

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<v Speaker 1>to it, but ultimately it's like, this is a man

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<v Speaker 1>who is like a sex addict of some sort and

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<v Speaker 1>also violent, not that that those are related necessarily at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, you know, he was out, he was in

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<v Speaker 1>New York for a couple of nights, and he brought

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<v Speaker 1>home a strange a woman one night, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>next night he forced a maid to give him mooral sex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you, something's wrong with you. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>be in jail.

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<v Speaker 4>Asserting your Yeah, you need to be exerting your power.

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<v Speaker 1>This often, like every single night, every single day, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be like objectifying and assaulting a woman in

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<v Speaker 1>some investigators.

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<v Speaker 2>And like he's bad enough, but just how many enablers

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<v Speaker 2>there are and how many people were and hitting it

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<v Speaker 2>away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a huge thing that his wife stood behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just in constantly in every interview. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like in the f few episode, I love him, He's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with him. Uh, you know, he's done nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>and she eventually left him.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I also not that I like this, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting that you knew every like you remember this

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<v Speaker 2>case and I have no idea about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you live in New York twenty eleven? No? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I just I read the free paper every

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<v Speaker 1>day on my subway on my way to work, and

1:22:11.360 --> 1:22:13.240
<v Speaker 1>like am New York, and it was just like always

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever the big you know. I just this was

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<v Speaker 1>like and at your bodega when you're going to like

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<v Speaker 1>buy a sandwich or whatever. It's just that's what's on

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of the New York Post. Is like everything

1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:26.400
<v Speaker 1>was about this case. It was like huge, Now I

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<v Speaker 1>just want a bodega sandwich. Okay, Well, stay tuned for

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<v Speaker 1>our post mortem because we do not have a guest. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>post mortem. I mean I watched this whole story unfold

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<v Speaker 1>in New York as it was happening, So of course

1:22:46.280 --> 1:22:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I was always waiting for an SVU to come out

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and I think they did a good job

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<v Speaker 1>showing how you know, absolute power corrupts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Your coworkers aren't your friends. I mean it always is

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<v Speaker 2>the because we know not to trust a man. But

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<v Speaker 2>like it is so upsetting when it's your galpals. Yeah,

1:23:08.080 --> 1:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>when it's your and about something like this, like what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck you dumb bitch, And.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it is fucked up to how like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>just is always looking for these perfect victims, like victims

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<v Speaker 1>that have no never had any trouble with the law,

1:23:23.000 --> 1:23:25.960
<v Speaker 1>have never told a lie before. Like it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not possible, and it seems like an impossible

1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:32.360
<v Speaker 1>standard that we hold people up to just if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to get justice for a crime that's been done

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<v Speaker 1>to them.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if you're a quote unquote a perfect victim,

1:23:37.680 --> 1:23:40.120
<v Speaker 2>they're still they're go there they will always find a hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it is really wild.

1:23:42.600 --> 1:23:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Even the people well, I mean it's not like I

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<v Speaker 2>have respect for the people coming to support Russell Brand,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like, right, even he doesn't look a little

1:23:50.080 --> 1:23:53.439
<v Speaker 2>raye to you, like I just you know Elon musk Be,

1:23:53.560 --> 1:23:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Like that's a good guy. I like that guy, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he is the poster child of someone to look out

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<v Speaker 2>for at a punk show, you know, like there would

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<v Speaker 2>be posters of his space. It's just like they'll just

1:24:05.680 --> 1:24:08.479
<v Speaker 2>defend anyone, and they know these things happen, but they're

1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>willing to defend anybody first before saying fuck it happens.

1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:15.280
<v Speaker 2>I just don't get it. I don't get it. I

1:24:15.320 --> 1:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>don'll never understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, also in I'm like I'm looking up really quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>like what has happened to Dominique straus Kon, like since

1:24:27.160 --> 1:24:31.360
<v Speaker 1>his thing like that, because this all happened in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty fifteen, he was acquitted of a in France

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<v Speaker 1>of quote unquote aggravated pimping, and that was charges related

1:24:40.200 --> 1:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to apparently regular sex orgies that he has. Like this

1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is obviously a not that there's anything wrong with sex orgies,

1:24:46.120 --> 1:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>but I just feel like this man is doing bad

1:24:47.800 --> 1:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>things and taking what he wants. And he's also an

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<v Speaker 1>under investigation right now for like tax fraud in Morocco,

1:24:53.800 --> 1:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>like stemming from properties he owns there. Like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>these people it's like what we were just talking about

1:24:58.880 --> 1:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>in the intro. Just these people with like endless money

1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that could think they can do whatever they want. It's

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I hate it.

1:25:06.000 --> 1:25:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Just the system reinforces that, and the media and all

1:25:10.520 --> 1:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the other people, like everyone reinforces the thing. Like you

1:25:13.680 --> 1:25:15.559
<v Speaker 2>won't even be in that much trouble, don't.

1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hope Russell Brands serves serious time.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Danny Masterson.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope all of them start fucking getting scared and

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<v Speaker 2>acting right. That's the thing. They're so arrogant. They never

1:25:25.720 --> 1:25:28.599
<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna get caught. And once these motherfuckers start

1:25:28.640 --> 1:25:31.479
<v Speaker 2>getting jailed, maybe they'll start behaving, but it they'll like

1:25:31.800 --> 1:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>zip up their goddamn pants.

1:25:33.280 --> 1:25:35.439
<v Speaker 1>But it's like Cosby was jailed and then he was

1:25:35.479 --> 1:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>like let out after a year, Like it would not

1:25:38.240 --> 1:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>be surprised if Danny Masterson was out in like two years.

1:25:40.760 --> 1:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>They'll just if you have enough money, it's just appeal, appeal, appeal, appeal,

1:25:44.040 --> 1:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>until like it happens. I don't know, that seems so negative, Nancy,

1:25:48.960 --> 1:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>but like I don't know, I just feel like money

1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>buys you so much. Meanwhile, there's like people rotting in

1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>jail for having a dime bag of weed. And I

1:25:55.680 --> 1:25:57.519
<v Speaker 1>hate the people that are like, ugh, they're just setting

1:25:57.560 --> 1:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>an example out of him. And it's like, but I see,

1:25:59.760 --> 1:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>no that someone got someone's got to be the example.

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<v Speaker 3>What is the problem here?

1:26:05.840 --> 1:26:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I just don't get, like straight up, like there's so

1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:11.559
<v Speaker 2>many examples of who rapes and it's everyone, and it's

1:26:11.560 --> 1:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people in power and famous people, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get when the news comes out, why the

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<v Speaker 2>initial reaction from so many people is no way, Yeah,

1:26:20.360 --> 1:26:23.719
<v Speaker 2>like who else is doing this if it's not this guy?

1:26:24.040 --> 1:26:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Like they just imagine Jack the Rippers, Like what are

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<v Speaker 2>the death thing? The grim Reaper? They just think the

1:26:31.240 --> 1:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Grim Reaper's out raping.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I just always assume the Grim Reaper was just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of like mist underneath that cloak.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think he had like a penis. But wow,

1:26:42.120 --> 1:26:43.040
<v Speaker 4>I bet he is raping.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, should we move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say it was great acting.

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<v Speaker 2>And and diplomats, why do they get all these extra

1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:57.400
<v Speaker 2>rules like commit crimes, it doesn't matter you're in the embassy.

1:26:57.479 --> 1:27:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't even get that. Yeah, those rules be for

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<v Speaker 2>government officials.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, especially if it's like body to body crime, like whatever,

1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>if you want to get out of a parking ticket

1:27:07.200 --> 1:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and you're a diplomat, I guess that's like a perk,

1:27:09.040 --> 1:27:12.479
<v Speaker 1>but like like actual crimes against other human beings that

1:27:12.520 --> 1:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>involve suffering, feels like, no, you should be held accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm not in the legislature, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can't make anything happen. But should we move on to

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<v Speaker 1>our what would Sister peg do? For today?

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<v Speaker 3>We should this week for our what would.

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<v Speaker 1>Sister beg Do? Segment where you guys know, we give

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<v Speaker 1>you guys organization, a charity, a blog post, a checklist.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know something to help give you more information,

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<v Speaker 1>because Lord knows, we are not the end all be

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<v Speaker 1>all scholars on anything. I just wanted to point you

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<v Speaker 1>to the docuseries called Room twenty eight oh six The

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<v Speaker 1>Colon the Accusation, which is a four part series on

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix that does a deep dive into the twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 1>Dominique stress Con sexual assault case. It details his career,

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<v Speaker 1>the allegations made by Nofice Diallo, and the fallout from

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<v Speaker 1>the case. So if you want to get any more

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<v Speaker 1>info on it and then write me and tell me

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<v Speaker 1>I was wrong about a couple of things with the crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, and next week, buckle up, bitches,

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing Authority Season nine, episode seventeen. Enjoy that cinematic experience,

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for listening. We appreciate all of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Much to our producer Kac O'Brien, and to our mixer

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<v Speaker 1>John Bradley and our guest booker Patrick Cotner, and to

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Kaperski for our theme song and Carly gen Andrews

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<v Speaker 1>for our artwork. Thank you to our executive producers Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>hard Start, Karen Kilgarriff, Daniel Kramer and everybody at Exactly

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<v Speaker 3>Dud dun