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Speaker 1: You're in your car. Welcome to That's Messed Up an
Speaker 1: SVU podcast. I'm one of your hosts, Kara Klank.
Speaker 3: And I'm Liz A.
Speaker 2: Traeger representing those who aren't in their cars.
Speaker 1: I'm recording. I'm recording from my car. No, that would
Speaker 1: be so wild. Welcome to another up of the pod. Guys.
Speaker 1: This is exciting. The writers strike has been resolved and
Speaker 1: the SAG. We think SAG will be following soon after.
Speaker 1: So oh, stay tuned. Hopefully we're going to have more
Speaker 1: fabulous guests coming to you from.
Speaker 2: You know, I keep thinking, like Drew Barrymore, you couldn't
Speaker 2: have waited two weeks, I.
Speaker 4: Know, and now you have this like stain on you.
Speaker 2: Now people will forget it in a minute, like it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, but it is just like you couldn't have
Speaker 2: waited a couple weeks.
Speaker 1: Well, it's so funny to me too. It's like this
Speaker 1: is a big part of our lives and we live
Speaker 1: in la like we hear about a day in and
Speaker 1: day out. And then we went to go see some
Speaker 1: of your family when we were in Atlanta, and they
Speaker 1: were like, so, what's happening, Like they just didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about the strikes at all. We were like, well,
Speaker 1: it's about this, and you know, it's just uh funny
Speaker 1: that for a lot of people, it really just like
Speaker 1: hasn't even registered though the auto unions are striking. I
Speaker 1: think right now, unions and strikes and you know, trying
Speaker 1: to get corporations to be held accountable is a hot
Speaker 1: thing right now.
Speaker 3: I heard the flight attendants, Oh.
Speaker 1: My gosh, and you think it's about the lounges.
Speaker 4: Do you think it's because of the Delta lodges?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But I just looked it up and unfortunately, American Airlines
Speaker 2: flight attendant sixty six found dead with sock in her
Speaker 2: mouth in a hotel room ten hours ago.
Speaker 3: What and this isn't out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, an our colleague of flight attendant found dead in Philly.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize, oh my god, what the fuck. I
Speaker 2: thought I was just gonna look at the strike and
Speaker 2: now there's all these dead flight attendants.
Speaker 1: Wait, that's like scary because I guess they like travel alone. No, Like,
Speaker 1: whenever I see flight attendants going to a hotel after
Speaker 1: their flight, they're always with a bunch of other ones.
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Speaker 3: From me, Thank you very much. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2: In Philadelphia, she was found two days after she was
Speaker 2: supposed to check out, which is even weirder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are supposed to don't usually check like
Speaker 1: a couple hours after you're supposed to check out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was found by cleaning stuff at like the
Speaker 2: airport Marriotte. No signs of forced entry or struggle, no weapons.
Speaker 2: This is live reporting right now if I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It, this is an SVU episode unfolding. It's going to
Speaker 1: end up that the most powerful flight attendant in New
Speaker 1: York City is behind it. They're fighting. Did you be
Speaker 1: the Supreme?
Speaker 2: Did you ever watch the movie View from the Top.
Speaker 2: It's Gwyneth Paltrow and Christina Applegate and it's a competitive
Speaker 2: flight attendant.
Speaker 1: No, I never saw that.
Speaker 3: No, I did, I did, I did.
Speaker 2: I said a few times no, But I'm made public,
Speaker 2: thank god. But the death is considered suspicious and there
Speaker 2: will be an investigation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say anytime there's a sock in the mouth,
Speaker 1: it's suspicious. I would definitely throw that into the suspicious
Speaker 1: cat column.
Speaker 3: Yes, that is true.
Speaker 1: Anyway, maybe that now's a good time to talk about
Speaker 1: all the travel that we're doing coming up. Guys, we are.
Speaker 4: Coming to a city near you. Please come see us.
Speaker 1: This episode comes out on October tenth, which means we
Speaker 1: will just have been to Buffalo. It means tonight we
Speaker 1: are at the space Ballroom in New Haven, New Haven, Hartford.
Speaker 1: I'm a hometown girl. Please do not make me look
Speaker 1: stupid and not have enough people at.
Speaker 4: Our space Ballroom show. Please come see us.
Speaker 1: Apparently the venue is really cool. I'm excited to go there.
Speaker 1: Some of my high school friends will be there. They'll
Speaker 1: probably tell you embarrassing stories about me. Come on, then,
Speaker 1: We're in Burlington this Thursday on the twelfth, and the
Speaker 1: next week Cleveland, Ohio on the eighteenth. Boston on the nineteenth.
Speaker 1: You guys are showing up with the tickets. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Boston. Keep telling friends and spreading the word.
Speaker 1: The wilbur is a huge moment for us and we
Speaker 1: really would love to have as many people there as possible.
Speaker 1: Then the rest of October is Toronto on the twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: to Troy on the twenty fifth, and Pittsburgh on the
Speaker 1: twenty sixth. And then don't forget Salt Lake City and
Speaker 1: our whole Midwest run happening in November. One last thing
Speaker 1: about the tour, the New York Show tickets. I know
Speaker 1: it's in December, and you guys are all like, what
Speaker 1: if I have a holiday party. The tickets are going fast.
Speaker 1: They're a low ticket alert for New York Show, So
Speaker 1: hop on there and get those babies. And that's it.
Speaker 1: Go to Thats Messed Up live dot com for all
Speaker 1: the info, also at the link in our Instagram bio.
Speaker 1: And that's enough of me selling you guys coming to
Speaker 1: see us. What else is going on, Lisa, we went
Speaker 1: to Vegas.
Speaker 2: Well I'm just announcing, well I have some tour dates,
Speaker 2: so check it out on glitter Cheese. But also I'm
Speaker 2: just announcing I'm gonna be doing an hour in La
Speaker 2: on November two a pipewriter, So come on down to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bu la la, bu la la. Indeed that'd be
Speaker 1: really cool.
Speaker 2: But yes, we were in Vegas. We were in Vegas
Speaker 2: and I haven't recovered still. I fully got so sick there.
Speaker 2: I'm it's bit I haven't been well. I also won't
Speaker 2: stop smoking weed. That probably doesn't help it. But Vegas
Speaker 2: was fun.
Speaker 1: It was so fun. We had a great day in
Speaker 1: a cabana. Lisa organized a lot of it. It was
Speaker 1: so amazing.
Speaker 4: It was like the best birthday. I never do anything
Speaker 4: big for my birthday, and I had a great time.
Speaker 2: I just feel at the pool, like that area when
Speaker 2: we were going from the pool to the wave pool,
Speaker 2: I don't think I'd ever laughed that hard. Like I
Speaker 2: was just really enjoying myself because when we got the
Speaker 2: four there was four of us at that moment, and
Speaker 2: when we got into the pool, these old men next
Speaker 2: to us went they look like trouble, and we did.
Speaker 1: And then when they started talking to us, and we
Speaker 1: just kept walking, but we were walking in the water,
Speaker 1: so we're like slow moving away from them. They're like,
Speaker 1: where are you from. We're like, LA, have a great night, guys,
Speaker 1: Like we just.
Speaker 4: Kept walking away from them slowly.
Speaker 1: It was so funny.
Speaker 2: Because Li's only had a man with two sons out
Speaker 2: of the hot tub.
Speaker 1: Our hotel had like two or three pools leading to
Speaker 1: the wavepool, and Lisa go, should we just walk through
Speaker 1: all the pools like lizard people? And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. So we lizard peopled our way
Speaker 1: through three pools to get to this wavepool. Then we
Speaker 1: get to the wavepool and our friend that's with us
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know, I don't want to say
Speaker 1: wave pool aficionado, but she's like huge into wave pools,
Speaker 1: and she's like and basically it's like a pretty tame
Speaker 1: wave pool. Like I almost drowned at the Action Park
Speaker 1: wave pool shout out to anyone that remembers Action Park
Speaker 1: in New Jersey aka Traction Park. And so I was
Speaker 1: expecting like torrential like huge waves that were going to
Speaker 1: like knock me on my butt, and they're very chill
Speaker 1: because it's Vegas, like people don't really actually want to
Speaker 1: fight for their lives. And our friend swims up to
Speaker 1: this lifeguard a on a like longboard and is like, hey,
Speaker 1: when did the waves start? And he's like, they're on.
Speaker 1: It's one wave every ninety seconds, and it was so funny.
Speaker 1: She was so disappointed.
Speaker 2: Well, we couldn't even like you and then the shallow
Speaker 2: you had to stand straight up like there was just
Speaker 2: I don't want to drown because I didn't even want
Speaker 2: to go into a wave pool because I do have
Speaker 2: really scary memories from childhood. But I was ready. We
Speaker 2: got ready, We got goggles, we putt we clipped it.
Speaker 2: We were just really prepped to go into a real
Speaker 2: wave pool, like we were going to fight in Sparta, right.
Speaker 2: We were three hundred and then it was barely away.
Speaker 1: I mean it was the equivalent of like a gust
Speaker 1: of wind every ninety seconds, like blowing the water a
Speaker 1: little bit, like it would lift you up a tiny bit.
Speaker 1: But then yeah, once you got washed into the shallow end,
Speaker 1: you couldn't sit there like the way you sit on
Speaker 1: the beach and kind of just let like the ends
Speaker 1: of the waves like fall over you. They're like stand
Speaker 1: up straight like all these teens telling us what to do, so.
Speaker 3: But full braces.
Speaker 2: But I also the reason we had to walk through
Speaker 2: the pools is because we had a drink.
Speaker 3: We can't bring drinks. This is my thing too.
Speaker 2: The rules and the wave pool are so strict without
Speaker 2: the wave and that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of rules for very little action.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's what was like, I can't have a
Speaker 2: high noon in here.
Speaker 3: But I also I ordered like a thirty ounce that
Speaker 3: Lie made That was really fun. Oh it'sy, it was delicious.
Speaker 3: It was just really funny. But then yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I got pretty drunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fun.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was wild too, because we wanted to maximize our
Speaker 1: time at the pool, so we didn't really nap before
Speaker 1: we went to dinner, and then we went to Drag
Speaker 1: Race Live and then Liza and I were last men
Speaker 1: standing gambling at like you know, late hours. So it
Speaker 1: was but it was so fun.
Speaker 3: But I learned. I learned about roulette.
Speaker 2: So like in my head, I was doing one hundred
Speaker 2: at a time and then kind of building up but
Speaker 2: then losing it. Yeah, next time I go in, I'm
Speaker 2: putting like four hundred in right away and then splashing,
Speaker 2: and then I think that's the only way to win
Speaker 2: big or win at all. I just think one hundred
Speaker 2: at a time was a mistake for me, and I
Speaker 2: should have just like, yeah, I fully committed.
Speaker 1: I agree because I think the guys that we see
Speaker 1: doing well are doing what you're talking about because they
Speaker 1: started with so much and then they just splash their
Speaker 1: chips around the center and like you usually hit, but
Speaker 1: then it's just I just kept hitting a bunch of
Speaker 1: like zero or whatever, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: because I never met on zero or double zero, so.
Speaker 3: I did lose my money.
Speaker 2: I just love hold them, but like it's so intimidating
Speaker 2: in the poker rooms and the tournaments, and like I
Speaker 2: just don't get why hold them can't have a table,
Speaker 2: Like I'm confused by that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well you played some kind of hold them
Speaker 1: at the very first place and you did well.
Speaker 2: Well, it was called Ultimate hold Them, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: It was like there was more. There was weirdness. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was like a lot of like if you wanted
Speaker 2: a bet, prefly, like you had to put in three
Speaker 2: times the minimum bets. Like things were just wild at
Speaker 2: the Ultimate table. But I did work with an incredible woman,
Speaker 2: shout out to her.
Speaker 3: But the first and but the first night.
Speaker 2: In Vegas was confusing to me because it seems like
Speaker 2: everyone is just walking around looking for fun. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: will never hit them, you know, like it's fun to
Speaker 2: go for an event or have something to do. But
Speaker 2: like Friday night was this thing of like if you're
Speaker 2: not clubbing or doing like heinous crimes. Like it was
Speaker 2: just all these It felt like the movie Swingers in
Speaker 2: a way. It was just like everyone like drinking and
Speaker 2: looking around, yeah, waiting for something to hit, like, you know,
Speaker 2: sitting in their little tables, being like what's around here now?
Speaker 1: It was and you always like you see groups like
Speaker 1: trying to link up. I mean, a guy was trying
Speaker 1: to talk to me a lot at the table and
Speaker 1: then I slowly watched him lose two thousand dollars and
Speaker 1: then he kind of just slinked away, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I bet you don't care where I live now, Like
Speaker 1: he asked me what I do for a living, and
Speaker 1: I pretended I didn't hear him. But we had a time.
Speaker 1: And also we saw a couple of listeners, Hello to
Speaker 1: you guys.
Speaker 2: That was that's where I lost my voice. The Drag
Speaker 2: Race is when it all went.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, health at least we saw Drag Race live.
Speaker 1: For those of you that know about our drag obsession,
Speaker 1: we saw. The cast was bosco hosted by Asia O'Hara,
Speaker 1: who was amazing and does about seventy five outfit changes
Speaker 1: with wigs that are impeccable. Bosco was in the cast,
Speaker 1: Kennedy fucking Davenport, Alexis Matteo, one of my faves, Cocoa
Speaker 1: Montrees and Pangina Heels, who I didn't know about, the
Speaker 1: winner of drag Race, Thailand and China. No no, Pangina
Speaker 1: Heels on China is from the One, Yeah and from
Speaker 1: All Stars.
Speaker 3: They really have to that is too tough for me.
Speaker 1: On Jina, Pangina, a Raja and a Raja, I don't think,
Speaker 1: you know, like you.
Speaker 3: Know that there should be coffy raimes.
Speaker 1: But it was amazing, like it's it's fun, Like I
Speaker 1: got to see the little numbers that that they worked
Speaker 1: on when I worked on the show were like these
Speaker 1: three original numbers that are in the show.
Speaker 3: And then all the.
Speaker 1: Queens got to do like their own big sort of
Speaker 1: show stopper, and Cocoa Montrees fucking pulled it out. She
Speaker 1: did like a whole Janet Jackson thing that I did
Speaker 1: not expect, and she was, you know, she's a Vegas showgirl,
Speaker 1: so they really brought.
Speaker 3: A Vegas show girl.
Speaker 2: The only thing that is so rue, Paul is they
Speaker 2: like the screams are advertising something every ten minutes I would.
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like like by the app, by the bucks, watch this International,
Speaker 2: go to the merchstre.
Speaker 1: Buy House of Love cocktails, buy House of Love mocktails.
Speaker 4: Like so many, so many advertisements.
Speaker 1: It was. It was crazy, it was.
Speaker 2: And I loved all the casinos. I definitely want to
Speaker 2: go to Vegas again. I think Vegas needs, you need
Speaker 2: to have a central point, like there needs to be
Speaker 2: an event. Yeah, I guess so. I think there needs
Speaker 2: to be a concert. I think there needs to be
Speaker 2: an event that you're going to to make Vegas make sense.
Speaker 1: Oh, like one show like Drag Race Live. You mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: I like TV a lean or a thing like or
Speaker 2: unless you're truly like into gambling so much. But I
Speaker 2: feel like Vegas to me seems like the best when
Speaker 2: there's an event to go to.
Speaker 1: I have to say, I feel like every time I
Speaker 1: have gone, I have been going to see like one
Speaker 1: thing like I saw Pink, I saw cher like I'm
Speaker 1: usually going to see something.
Speaker 2: I guess that makes sense. But the Lazy River, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we just had fun. We were laughing. We like shoved
Speaker 2: a kid in his inner tube against a wall to
Speaker 2: make sure Kara's hair didn't get wet, and the waterfall
Speaker 2: because of her blowout, and like truly we were like
Speaker 2: injuring children trying to keep our hair dry.
Speaker 1: The Lazy River was something I never could have imagined.
Speaker 1: Like my friend goes, oh, yeah, you could just get in,
Speaker 1: and like I go and.
Speaker 4: Like, what just float like a dead body?
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think so, and so I
Speaker 1: went in once with an inner tube, and then when
Speaker 1: we went in a second time, I did do it
Speaker 1: dead body style, and wow, what a thrill. I was
Speaker 1: wrong and I stand corrected. The current was fast, like
Speaker 1: my body was floating down that river. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like this is all related to SVU bodies floating
Speaker 1: in rivers. But wow, a really fun time. A lot
Speaker 1: of wild cab drivers and I just had. I had
Speaker 1: the best time. I like already thinking about how I
Speaker 1: want to go back.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm like, who's performing?
Speaker 1: I know, I know I would go see.
Speaker 4: I would go see Adele. I feel like it'd be
Speaker 4: fun to see it.
Speaker 3: She's done. Maybe this was it, yeah, but you never know.
Speaker 2: All kinds of shit is there. I think Miley should
Speaker 2: do Vegas. I'm hoping for a Miley Vegas eventually, because
Speaker 2: her big thing is she doesn't want to tour, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to pack on a bus and change
Speaker 2: in a locker room, like she doesn't want that life.
Speaker 3: But I feel like Vegas is the thing to do.
Speaker 1: And I think Deba is only doing weekends. It's like,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be there seven days a week,
Speaker 1: you know, no.
Speaker 3: I exactly.
Speaker 2: I think you could be in Malibu, hang out with
Speaker 2: your nature, and then fucking fly in baby.
Speaker 1: I was reading, first of all, will be done in
Speaker 1: a second, but I was reading about, first of all,
Speaker 1: I hate that Courtney Kardashian's company is called Poushe. I
Speaker 1: like hate that word. It like gives me full body shivers.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it means, but I don't like it.
Speaker 1: And she had like a big party in Malibu, and
Speaker 1: I guess it was like against all these Malibu rules.
Speaker 1: And this is becoming an increasing problem in Malibu where
Speaker 1: celebrities just have these massive parties and it like blocks
Speaker 1: up traffic and everybody, like Malibu doesn't know what to
Speaker 1: do about it. So I wonder if mit Ley's been affected.
Speaker 2: Interesting, wait, hold odd, So they just had a party
Speaker 2: and break all the rules.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they have, Like they have these massive
Speaker 1: parties and like just probably capacity is like huge, and
Speaker 1: then they like the entertainment.
Speaker 2: The mayor accuses Courtney Kardashian a fraud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's it. I think they like lie about
Speaker 1: what it is, Like they fake permits, Like they get
Speaker 1: permits for one thing and then that's not what they have.
Speaker 3: Damn. Yeah, that is wild.
Speaker 2: I forgot if this is real or not, or in
Speaker 2: a different country, but that, like tickets and stuff, you
Speaker 2: pay what's comparable to your to your worth. So like
Speaker 2: because rich people will just get tons of tickets and
Speaker 2: parking tickets and it doesn't matter to them because what's
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars to them five hundred dollars. So like,
Speaker 2: if you're a super rich person and you get pulled over,
Speaker 2: your ticket's going to be for two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Really, it's like comparable. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I made this up or if it's in a
Speaker 2: country or a city.
Speaker 1: Casey, you look it up. This is somewhere out side
Speaker 1: of America, Yeah of course. Oh yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's like Switzerland. I bet it's one of the dordicks.
Speaker 2: It's you know, deadmark or something interesting or or I
Speaker 2: just write a thing of how it should be. But
Speaker 2: that's how it should because rich people just don't care.
Speaker 2: They'll keep paying the red light tickets or like the
Speaker 2: parking tickets, the street cleaning. It doesn't matter to them.
Speaker 2: And so hopefully if you are that rich, you have
Speaker 2: a garage. But anyway, they they'll just speed it as
Speaker 2: a matter. So if you make the ticket pricing actually hurt,
Speaker 2: maybe they'll follow the fucking rule case he's leading in
Speaker 2: what's the scoop.
Speaker 1: Finland, Liza's former hometown, aggressive punishment when it comes to
Speaker 1: speeding tickets.
Speaker 2: Uh, the amount depends on your monthly income.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're right on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Like that's how it should be because like, what does
Speaker 2: Coordinay Kardashian care about violating permits? They could they could
Speaker 2: probably find her tenth dollars and she wouldn't give a shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she needs to be fined a million dollars and then
Speaker 2: maybe she won't do shit like this. But also, fuck
Speaker 2: that rich ass community. It's like Palm Springs, you know,
Speaker 2: they have all these rules lights can't be out, don't
Speaker 2: turn on music.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, also fuck the rich people that are like
Speaker 2: so annoyed by the noise.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you can't like talk loudly outside in Palm
Speaker 1: Springs after ten o'clock. It's really crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh there's also no street lamps. You have to walk
Speaker 2: around with like a lamp on your head.
Speaker 4: All right, should we get started with today's episode.
Speaker 2: I did have one other funny thing that happened in Vegas.
Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend there and I was
Speaker 2: talking about doing Molly and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I used to do like Molly off my hands at
Speaker 2: the bathroom at Cole's. And she goes, oh, I used
Speaker 2: to steal from Coals And I go, what the fuck
Speaker 2: did you take from there? And she goes, I don't know,
Speaker 2: lift glosses, And I went, oh, me in the store.
Speaker 2: I mean my friend Cole his bar holds the bar.
Speaker 2: So she thought I was doing Molly at Cole's department
Speaker 2: store and that was like my thing. And I was like,
Speaker 2: how dare you steal from a local bar, you fucking psycho?
Speaker 3: Like what did you take? And then so I really
Speaker 3: liked those giggles.
Speaker 1: I've been to both coles, and I would say they're
Speaker 1: both great places to lick Molly off your fingers.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Also, I did not bring my laptop and the TV
Speaker 2: wasn't working, and that was hard for me to sleep
Speaker 2: even though I was fucked up.
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you went out pretty quick.
Speaker 2: No, I had podcasts in my ears and I was
Speaker 2: waking up to voices of our friends.
Speaker 1: Like it was.
Speaker 2: It was twisted. No, I fell asleep with things in
Speaker 2: my ears.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I lost my EarPods.
Speaker 1: Kill me. All right, let's get started. We've got a
Speaker 1: great episode for you guys today as usual.
Speaker 4: All Right, Episode one of season thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, season premiere, and it's the first season premiere after
Speaker 2: Christopher Maloney leaves departed. Yeah, after shooting a teen in
Speaker 2: the precinct. Everyone needs a break after that, so we're Yeah.
Speaker 2: In the beginning, we see a man and he's tying
Speaker 2: a Paisley orange tie. He's really tan, he has facial
Speaker 2: hair in a hotel. And then we see a hotel
Speaker 2: maid and she's so crying and distressed, and then another
Speaker 2: hotel maid runs to her, and then we cut to
Speaker 2: the man that we're assuming is the reason this hotel
Speaker 2: maid is crying and in distress, and.
Speaker 3: He's cheers in to a future grandchild.
Speaker 2: He's on a rooftop bar in Manhattan and there's a
Speaker 2: pregnant woman.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of so like why is this man going?
Speaker 1: May he be a boy?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Nineteen? Like? Oh one?
Speaker 4: Like why how about a healthy baby?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I honestly anyone that does that, I'm against them one
Speaker 2: hundred percent.
Speaker 3: It's so fucked up. I hate it. So the manager
Speaker 3: calls the police.
Speaker 2: Craigan answers the phone call and gives orders right away,
Speaker 2: so munch in Finn they go to the Park Milano
Speaker 2: hotel where the maid was assaulted in the presidential suite,
Speaker 2: and then quickly he says, live, sorry about your weekend,
Speaker 2: but you got to go to Bellevue and check on
Speaker 2: the VIC. So she's off to Bellevue and the guys
Speaker 2: are off to the hotel and the suspect we find
Speaker 2: out is Roberto Distassio.
Speaker 3: Did I say that.
Speaker 1: Right, Kara?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a nice Italian flair, and he is he's important,
Speaker 2: he's next in line to becoming the Italian prime minister.
Speaker 1: And can I just say one quick thing? Yeah, So
Speaker 1: they say he's basically next in line behind Berlusconi. Who
Speaker 1: Berlusconi was the Prime Minister of Italy for a long time,
Speaker 1: and he was the prime Minister of Italy when I
Speaker 1: lived there. He like we think Donald Trump is a joke,
Speaker 1: like Berlusconi is a joke with like capital letters. When
Speaker 1: I was living there, he disappeared for six weeks. No
Speaker 1: one knew where he was. When he came back, he
Speaker 1: had a full facelift. Wait, wait, he is the wildest.
Speaker 1: So who was in charge of Italy when he was gone?
Speaker 4: I don't know, like the vice prime minister.
Speaker 1: I don't know what their situation is, but like just
Speaker 1: like there's such a tabloid culture and like they always
Speaker 1: know where he is, and like just nobody knew where
Speaker 1: he was for like six weeks and he came back
Speaker 1: and his face was fucking tight as hell and it
Speaker 1: was insane.
Speaker 4: And also he owns like this media company.
Speaker 1: That basically it would be like if our president owned
Speaker 1: NBCABC ANDCBS, Like there's one other channel like Fox that
Speaker 1: he doesn't own, but he owns three of the major
Speaker 1: major channels in Italy.
Speaker 3: And how did the people in Italy feel about him?
Speaker 1: I mean from what I thought, I talking to my
Speaker 1: friends mostly he was like a joke. But I think
Speaker 1: that like right wing people like him. Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: so it just I just thought it'd be like an
Speaker 1: interesting little tidbit that he is like a hilarious, ridiculous politician.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't say.
Speaker 2: Much that he's gonna be he's next in line crown
Speaker 2: like it's not.
Speaker 1: But still it conveys the power of how much how
Speaker 1: powerful this guy is for sure.
Speaker 2: So so he's he's in the car and he's chatting
Speaker 2: with his driver. He realizes he left his laptop at
Speaker 2: the hotel. He calls the hotel. And because of this tidbit,
Speaker 2: because he calls the hotel, the squad and everyone knows
Speaker 2: that he's off to JFK and they know his location,
Speaker 2: so we know he's heading to JFK. And but no,
Speaker 2: drum roll, it's Amanda Dollins first episode.
Speaker 1: And she is laying on her accent accents so hard,
Speaker 1: so hard. She is ready to work.
Speaker 2: Maybe she's holding a box and she gives she like
Speaker 2: gives it to another officer and she goes stash that
Speaker 2: for me, Hun, will you like truly off the fucking
Speaker 2: country boat? And you know, ready to hit the pavement.
Speaker 2: So her and Craig get like, she's excited to get
Speaker 2: to work. This man takes this box from her. We're
Speaker 2: at the hospital and the victim is Anika Nanni Rose
Speaker 2: and that's the actress's name, and she is the voice
Speaker 2: of Tiana and the Princess of the Frog, so a
Speaker 2: different type of role. But and I'm sure she's done
Speaker 2: lots of other work, but she's a fucking Disney princess
Speaker 2: that's pretty huge. And so her name is Miriam and
Speaker 2: she's explaining what happened to her, and it's pretty detailed.
Speaker 2: But he was in a robe from the spa. He
Speaker 2: locked the door behind him, pushed her onto the bed,
Speaker 2: held her arms back, you know, just pretty fucked up.
Speaker 2: But she scratched him, and she but he pushed her
Speaker 2: down again and then how do I even say this?
Speaker 3: Whatever?
Speaker 1: So he forced her to give him oral sex basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: he he forced he like penetrated her orally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then she spit it out, and I guess
Speaker 2: he laughed and said, this is the difference between life
Speaker 2: and love. And I don't know, is it that that's
Speaker 2: a very Italian thing to say after a raping like.
Speaker 1: And love, like and love. What did I say life?
Speaker 1: That's the that's Google docs problem.
Speaker 3: That is not me.
Speaker 1: I guess what he's saying is that if you love someone,
Speaker 1: you swallow or something.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what he's saying.
Speaker 1: Oh god, Oh he's.
Speaker 3: A fucking creepy has fake self tanner on.
Speaker 1: I guess I've never been in love with anyone.
Speaker 2: So then Benson, like the amazing detective she is, asks
Speaker 2: where did you where did you spit it out? And
Speaker 2: then we're back on the scene at the hotel and
Speaker 2: Rollin's helpful off the bat, we are shown that she
Speaker 2: is fucking good at her there was like she found
Speaker 2: some blood and she put a coin down for scale
Speaker 2: and she's there.
Speaker 3: So then wet.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of cuts and we haven't even gotten
Speaker 2: to the credits. So then back to D'sconi. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: call him Desani, And so we see this Italian man.
Speaker 2: He's in first class obviously, and he's checking the ass
Speaker 2: out of.
Speaker 1: The flight attendant. So he's gross.
Speaker 2: And this flight attendant is wearing the chicest flight attendant
Speaker 2: outfit I have ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: It is tailored to her body like it is there's
Speaker 1: not a room for her to drink a glass of
Speaker 1: water in this fucking dress.
Speaker 2: No, it's red, black zipper on the back. It looks
Speaker 2: like a Victoria Beckham dress. It does not even Arab
Speaker 2: Emirates gals are not dressed this fucking good. So then
Speaker 2: the cops board the plane, and this is my favorite
Speaker 2: fucking moment. He goes, oh, do you have my laptop?
Speaker 2: Like this is what an entitled man he thinks. He
Speaker 2: thinks that the police in New York rushed his laptop
Speaker 2: to JK in traffic to give him a laptop, Like,
Speaker 2: you're a fucking numb nut dude. Yeah, I guess he's
Speaker 2: also a rapist outside of being entitled. But he's like
Speaker 2: confused to be arrested, so we can get the vibe
Speaker 2: like he doesn't know what he did wrong, like he
Speaker 2: is very confused by this. And then he's claiming diplomatic immunity,
Speaker 2: which seems like an insane thing to ever exist.
Speaker 3: I don't understand that.
Speaker 2: So if you're work at an embassy, you go to
Speaker 2: another country, you can commit all the crimes you want and.
Speaker 3: Leave at m peace out. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I think there's definitely rules, but
Speaker 1: I've definitely been confused and disgusted by diplomatic immunity before.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: I just really don't get it.
Speaker 2: So we have this guy in the interrogation fish tank
Speaker 2: and Finn gives a little so he gives a clue
Speaker 2: that Staylor's not around, and he says Stabler would have
Speaker 2: loved to fucking go at him, which he would, so Munchfin,
Speaker 2: Craig and Rollins are having like fun cop chats and
Speaker 2: in walks. The lawyer of the guilty, Marvin Xley Ron
Speaker 2: Rifkin plays him and quick fact about him. He was
Speaker 2: an Orthodox Jew until the age of thirty two and
Speaker 2: also born on Halloween. So Marvin Xley. And then after
Speaker 2: Marvin Xley, we get another surprise of a fucking lifetime.
Speaker 2: Alex Cabot is back from the Congo. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: I could I was shrieking. I mean I've seen this
Speaker 2: multiple times, but this was huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She she was inspired by the story of Narda Lee.
Speaker 3: Remember that episode.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I remember she left, but I didn't know
Speaker 2: that she was gonna come back. No, that log of
Speaker 2: her on the stand haunts me for life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was a wild episode.
Speaker 1: But now so they're filling in Cabot, filling her in,
Speaker 1: and then we have Rollins talking about the com saliva
Speaker 1: mixture and.
Speaker 2: She goes nice juicy cocktail from the drain, so that's
Speaker 2: Rollin's we get to know about her. We learn that
Speaker 2: the maid, Miriam has two sons. Their father is dead
Speaker 2: and he was killed in a fight. And she's like, listen,
Speaker 2: I hear he's a rich guy, Like what is this
Speaker 2: even worth it?
Speaker 3: What am I going to do?
Speaker 2: He's so rich, And Benson's like, don't no, this won't
Speaker 2: be easy. But we don't care who he thinks he is.
Speaker 2: But he's going to jail, so that is a nice moment.
Speaker 2: And then we have another man with an accent who
Speaker 2: comes in defending his friend. He's letting us know that
Speaker 2: the perp was actually playing golf with the President of
Speaker 2: the United States, so he is highly connected.
Speaker 1: There are so many people in this episode. So then
Speaker 1: Bureau Chief eighty.
Speaker 2: A Michael Cutter walks in and he was He has
Speaker 2: like David Cassidy type hair from the sixties and a
Speaker 2: sharp nose and he's a good guy.
Speaker 3: On all accounts. I believe.
Speaker 1: Do you have any strong No, I think he's a
Speaker 1: little forgettable, but he's a good guy. You unlike hadide
Speaker 1: I feel like you have the feeling that this guy's
Speaker 1: like for the victims and like wants to do good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm into him.
Speaker 2: And then what we learn from Cabot, She says, diplomatic
Speaker 2: immunity helps you from prosecution, not from arrest. So confusion
Speaker 2: of diplomatic community grows and grows.
Speaker 1: So you can get arrested, but you can't be prosecuted.
Speaker 1: Then what's the point. I don't really, Okay, I don't whatever.
Speaker 1: I have no freaking idea.
Speaker 2: It's it's very weird, and I think if you work
Speaker 2: at them beceive, you should have lost.
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody that well, somebody that listens and is
Speaker 1: like a criminal rule or like a law in law
Speaker 1: school or something, tell us about this diplomatic community thing.
Speaker 1: We don't. We're not. We're having a hard time with it.
Speaker 2: Go on, and then this is a very shocking moment
Speaker 2: for me an SVU where so Miriam is being brought
Speaker 2: into the precinct at everyone stops, it becomes silent.
Speaker 3: And they stare at her. Are you not the Special
Speaker 3: Victims Unit?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really weird moment because a million victims
Speaker 1: have walked through that door and I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very weird. And she's like, they're all
Speaker 2: staring at me. She also does not like it. And
Speaker 2: then we see that there's a lot of other maids
Speaker 2: from the hotel being questioned. Now Rawlins is fangirling Marishka.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh my god, I studied all your cases.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with you. I'll do anything you need. And
Speaker 2: it's like, I guess they all have heroes too. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize that cops like follow each other's cases and have.
Speaker 1: True Like I don't know if the cops down in
Speaker 1: Atlanta are like researching New York cases.
Speaker 3: But it's cute.
Speaker 1: It's like a cute little dynamic to set up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, She's just like, he're my hero. I love you
Speaker 3: so much. So that's that.
Speaker 2: And then Marishka's like, I have work to do, like
Speaker 2: get away from me. But whatever, so we've uh He's oh,
Speaker 2: a little thing is he charged the hotel on his
Speaker 2: personal card, not his business card, So like, does this
Speaker 2: immunity hold up if this was a personal right vacation,
Speaker 2: because it seems like he was just there visiting a
Speaker 2: grand kid or whatever. So we get the VIC statement
Speaker 2: she is from the Sudan and she came here on
Speaker 2: political asylum. Benson is looking at Stabler's desk longingly. She
Speaker 2: is missing him so much she cannot live without him,
Speaker 2: and Craigan says, listen, it's up to Stabler, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what you want from me.
Speaker 3: I'm not at the charge.
Speaker 1: At this point, we don't know what's up. We know
Speaker 1: he's been like sort of semi suspended or like under
Speaker 1: investigation for the shooting. We don't know if he's coming
Speaker 1: back or not. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2: So then they do a lineup and my dream is
Speaker 2: to one day be one of the fake people in
Speaker 2: a lineup like that seems like really fun because I
Speaker 2: love to doing jury duty and this seems like a
Speaker 2: good time too.
Speaker 1: But Lisa, much like with your audition, you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to smile. You can't go out a lineup and
Speaker 1: be like, hi, you're.
Speaker 3: Right, oh god.
Speaker 2: But hopefully one day someone that looks like me because
Speaker 2: it's a crime and I can go.
Speaker 3: On in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no more crimes forever. But you know, at one
Speaker 2: time did have a stunt double and it was a
Speaker 2: great day of my life. Oh I thought that, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was really fun. So in the investigation, she ideas
Speaker 2: him in like zero point five seconds. I've never seen
Speaker 2: an id so fast, And Marvin Exley looks a little worried.
Speaker 3: And then Finn's dumb ass, Oh no, not fit my
Speaker 3: bad time. So who says this though?
Speaker 1: Fuck that was a lawyer, No Roberto, he says it.
Speaker 1: He goes on the word of a maid and Finn goes,
Speaker 1: my grandma was a maid. And it was like, snap, yeah.
Speaker 2: You don't fuck with Finn. I was like, Finn would
Speaker 2: not talk shit about maids, and I was right.
Speaker 3: I just wrote it back.
Speaker 2: And so then Craigan gives a speech to the whole
Speaker 2: precincts of like we're under a microscope considering a stabler
Speaker 2: killed a girl in the squad room. So please mind
Speaker 2: your p's and q's, do everything, buy the book, do
Speaker 2: not fuck this up. And they're gonna try to spoil
Speaker 2: the victim anyway possible, like fine toothcomb, do your job.
Speaker 2: We are under investigation. And then we get Benson speaking Italian.
Speaker 2: She loves throwing that on there.
Speaker 1: Course Benson speaks Italian. She speaks Spanish. I think she
Speaker 1: speaks a little bit of French. She's into the she's
Speaker 1: into the romance languages, Hungarian's She's a romance language girl,
Speaker 1: plus a little bit of Eastern Europe shaken in there,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: So Melinda Warner has a great quote and she says
Speaker 2: DNA is like God, it's everywhere, and I really liked that.
Speaker 2: And it's when she's, you know, getting samples off of
Speaker 2: the Italian guy.
Speaker 1: Well, it's also an interesting thing to say to a
Speaker 1: guy who thinks he's God. Like this guy thinks he
Speaker 1: can get away with anything, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: what's God? DNA is God? Like DNA will fuck you?
Speaker 2: Like Rollins is always she's always do She always does
Speaker 2: this because we learn later that she was she grew
Speaker 2: up in an abusive household, so it makes sense to
Speaker 2: like kind of identify with the power position, like for
Speaker 2: survival whatever. But she's always trying to discredit the victims.
Speaker 2: I feel like, and this is the beginning of why
Speaker 2: I started to hate Rollins. And then she you know,
Speaker 2: her fucking sister. But so she's like, come on, why
Speaker 2: are we doing this just a maid? Something's fishy. I
Speaker 2: don't believe this, And then of course gets a quote
Speaker 2: in and he's like power corrupts absolutely or something like that,
Speaker 2: you know, just some nonsense absolute absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's a book of quotes, and so then
Speaker 2: Rollins says my favorite thing where she's like, did anyone
Speaker 2: try to talk to him? I'll do it, And so
Speaker 2: she brings her sexy ass down to where in the
Speaker 2: holding cell and she starts trying to manipulate him getting information.
Speaker 2: Being on his side, she brings him Italian food. It
Speaker 2: looks like melted lasagna. It does not look good and
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to eat it. But you know, he's
Speaker 2: playing along a little bit. He's giving her nothing. And
Speaker 2: then at the end he says, later I will be
Speaker 2: free and you will be out of a job. So
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, Rollins, he saw through your game, like
Speaker 2: you're I don't know.
Speaker 1: He also thought she could like flirt her way into
Speaker 1: getting some information from him or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like he's a political I don't know.
Speaker 1: Which has worked for Rolins. It does go on to
Speaker 1: work for Rollins, it's just in this case it's not
Speaker 1: really working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: He also said something that fucking enrages me an Italian
Speaker 2: and it's man has fact and woman has words and
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, go away, Okay. So then Cabot's back
Speaker 2: to work, she's you know, doing things, and wildly he
Speaker 2: gets remanded to Rikers, which's pretty shocking for someone that
Speaker 2: rich and powerful, and so that was like pretty exciting.
Speaker 2: So Stephanie March, thank you for your wonderful work. So
Speaker 2: they're in a motel, which I don't under They couldn't
Speaker 2: leave her in her house. I was confused why they
Speaker 2: had to be in a motel or does she live
Speaker 2: in a motel.
Speaker 1: Us for her safety? I think okay, I think because
Speaker 1: it's such a high profile case they had to move her.
Speaker 3: They could have getten her a nicer room. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't a great motile.
Speaker 3: She's in distress.
Speaker 2: So she, Benson and Cabitt are there and they're like,
Speaker 2: are you lying? Do you want money? You have to
Speaker 2: tell us everything. And this is when we learn about
Speaker 2: Miriam's gruesome past.
Speaker 1: And she.
Speaker 2: Was gang raped after her husband was killed, and these
Speaker 2: people had like the blood of her dead husband on them,
Speaker 2: and it was just like this awful rape past that
Speaker 2: she had and we're back in the precinct and uh oh,
Speaker 2: who is it?
Speaker 3: Iab rolling on in.
Speaker 2: So Craigan and Benson are talking about the Stabler shootings
Speaker 2: and he has six shootings. Now, I love Elliott Stabler,
Speaker 2: that's too many.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, he also has like he also
Speaker 1: has like use of force on his jacket, like he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of.
Speaker 2: Problems and refuses to go to therapy like that's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. It's like can you oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: And then Benson's just fighting. I'm like, you're trying to
Speaker 2: give him up, Craigan, this is not okay. They were
Speaker 2: they were good jobs, blah blah blah. And Craigan's like,
Speaker 2: I have his back.
Speaker 3: Shut up. It's just like he did.
Speaker 2: And he's like all he has to do is a
Speaker 2: psychical and anger management and Benson is like he would
Speaker 2: never do that.
Speaker 3: It's like that is a problem.
Speaker 1: Okay, right right, those are pretty easy things to do
Speaker 1: to keep your job and your career that you supposedly love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're so against anger management. Bro, you killed a team.
Speaker 1: Yeah love Stabler, but after thirteen seasons you shot that's
Speaker 1: an average of one shooting one person every other season,
Speaker 1: like that's too many people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And then but I do love Benson in
Speaker 2: this moment. Her hair is half up, half down and
Speaker 2: it's a little messy, and it's probably one of my
Speaker 2: favorite looks.
Speaker 1: That yeah, I say, I noted that as well. I
Speaker 1: did like her hair a lot in this episode. I
Speaker 1: fucking love it.
Speaker 3: So the Italian man's wife is here and she's telling
Speaker 3: the cameras.
Speaker 2: He's amazing, He's amazing, and they kiss and hug in
Speaker 2: front of the cameras, and she has like she has
Speaker 2: two string of pearls around her neck, so you know
Speaker 2: she's uber wealthy, you know what I mean to giant pearls.
Speaker 3: And he gets house arrests.
Speaker 2: And now the gang they meet up at a bar,
Speaker 2: cop bar, peanuts on the table, and they're here to
Speaker 2: have philosophical discussions I.
Speaker 3: Guess about their friend Stabler.
Speaker 2: So they're at the bar and Benson's like, we need
Speaker 2: him back, and Finn with some smart insights, like he
Speaker 2: shot a girl, he might not want to come back,
Speaker 2: Like it's not a IAB, it's not the system. It
Speaker 2: might just be a person decision on his part. Maybe
Speaker 2: he wants to hang out with his daughter who needs help, Like,
Speaker 2: leave him alone, but I would love to know where
Speaker 2: where he went. Is he doing private security for Rihanna,
Speaker 2: for rich people? Is he did he get a pension?
Speaker 2: Did he open a corner store? Just?
Speaker 1: Is he preaching?
Speaker 4: Is he he turned into a Catholic breeze?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No five kids?
Speaker 2: Yeah, about to say I think he likes to fuck
Speaker 2: too much. So then uh oh cover of the newspaper.
Speaker 2: Miriam lied, not lied, I take that back. Basically another
Speaker 2: hotel maid sold her out. Audio recorded her talking about
Speaker 2: how like this guy's rich, I'm gonna get millions of
Speaker 2: dollars from him.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, you know, try to get all this cash
Speaker 3: from him.
Speaker 2: And it's like that doesn't negate it, And if you
Speaker 2: were attacked by someone, why couldn't you be like I
Speaker 2: want him in jail and I want tons of money
Speaker 2: from him, Like I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't see how that is so bad.
Speaker 2: But she wasn't honest, and the defense is going to
Speaker 2: spin this like she just wants the money and it's
Speaker 2: not real and what the fuck this coworker, you dumb bitch,
Speaker 2: And then you know they're asking Miriam, They're like, did
Speaker 2: you hire a civil attorney.
Speaker 3: She did, which is bad. But the rape is consistent
Speaker 3: throughout the story. That's what you know.
Speaker 2: Like in the tape, explaining it to the girl is
Speaker 2: the same way she explained it to everybody else. And
Speaker 2: they're discussing, like what's going to happen, and then this
Speaker 2: is said Ada Mike says, perception is not reality, and
Speaker 2: so that's what a lot of rape cases seem to
Speaker 2: come down to, is like how you can make the
Speaker 2: jury think of someone and what actually happened does not matter.
Speaker 2: And then Benson gives Rollins like a good job when
Speaker 2: she tracks another hotel maid who was pushed on the
Speaker 2: bed by Todstasio but stop, but he stopped attacking her
Speaker 2: when she screamed, and Rollins is just so happy Benson
Speaker 2: gave her a good job.
Speaker 3: She's smiling ear to ear. She is fucking pumped. And
Speaker 3: now we are at trial.
Speaker 2: We find out that she was convicted of prostitution in
Speaker 2: South Sudan, but she says it's because like she was
Speaker 2: raped and when she went to the police, they called
Speaker 2: her a whore, said she broke shariah, sharia sharia lah,
Speaker 2: that she broke sharia law, and that they would stone
Speaker 2: her to death. And so it just brings up the
Speaker 2: magnitude of like the world and patriarchy, power, money, and
Speaker 2: how hard it is for people all over the world
Speaker 2: to get justice in any way. The Ada, who I
Speaker 2: said was a good guy, is annoying the shit out
Speaker 2: of me. That is the note I have on my paper.
Speaker 2: He doesn't think they're going to win, and Benson actually
Speaker 2: doesn't believe her anymore, and the new wants to drop
Speaker 2: the charges. The Ada and Cabot are fighting. They're having
Speaker 2: lawyer agreements about ethics and what's right and what's wrong
Speaker 2: in Cabot's manipulating him and being like, I heard you're
Speaker 2: the best, but you ain't shit, And so they're carrying
Speaker 2: to having this conversation and now we're we have this
Speaker 2: amazing testimony scene and the lawyer has games up his
Speaker 2: sleeve and it's fucked up. He's like, you lied on
Speaker 2: your documents. When you enter the US, they asked if
Speaker 2: you'd been convicted of a crime, and you said no,
Speaker 2: and you had been convicted, so you're a liar and
Speaker 2: you lied about this. And it's just like anyone on
Speaker 2: the jury that is tricked by this. It just infuriates me.
Speaker 2: It's like, if you're trying to get into a country
Speaker 2: and escape an awful situation and help your children live
Speaker 2: a better life, you're gonna say anything. Yeah, like what
Speaker 2: does that have to do with being raped? It's just
Speaker 2: so fucked up the games that they play. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it just pisses me off.
Speaker 1: And it is also crazy, like what you have here,
Speaker 1: Like how does that mean when someone lies once? I
Speaker 1: mean they're always a liar. Like you can literally talk
Speaker 1: to some of my teachers in school. I probably cheated
Speaker 1: on a test once. That doesn't mean I'm a forever
Speaker 1: liar cheater and I should never get justice for anything
Speaker 1: that happens to me.
Speaker 2: Correct, And it's just like such a privileged place to be, like, well,
Speaker 2: why would you lie in this application?
Speaker 3: It's like because if she didn't.
Speaker 1: She has to stay in the Sudan.
Speaker 3: Like fuck you.
Speaker 2: And then Finn is the one with Finn is very
Speaker 2: wise this episode, and he says what I've been saying,
Speaker 2: like he's trying to get her kids into the country,
Speaker 2: like damn, leave her the fuck alone. And then Benson
Speaker 2: brings up a really good point. She says, it's one
Speaker 2: thing to be consistent and one thing to be verbatim,
Speaker 2: And we see this a lot in SVU. It is
Speaker 2: suspicious when the facts never ever change. And yeah, so
Speaker 2: this happens a lot, and Finn is like, but don't
Speaker 2: you think the guy did it? And Benson rolls her
Speaker 2: eyes in a way I've never seen like so aggressively
Speaker 2: annoyed by Finn, and I loved it. So then the
Speaker 2: motherfucker Italian guy takes the stand and he is saying like,
Speaker 2: I would never pay for this. Why would I have to?
Speaker 2: I'm like so powerful and cool. Women love power. She
Speaker 2: knew exactly who I was. She wanted to do this,
Speaker 2: she asked for it, and then afterwards said give me
Speaker 2: ten grand or I'm gonna say you raped me. And
Speaker 2: it's like, if this was the truth, why wouldn't you
Speaker 2: say it sooner? Why wouldn't this be the first thing
Speaker 2: out of your mouth? Like this did not happen. And
Speaker 2: second of all, I don't think Miriam is that good
Speaker 2: of an actress to start like crying in the hallway
Speaker 2: after this happened. And no one's just I mean, I
Speaker 2: that's not true, But I don't think many people are
Speaker 2: just asking it to give blowjobs willy nilly at their job,
Speaker 2: Like I'm just gonna say that, but if you are
Speaker 2: someone that likes to do that, I'm not judging you.
Speaker 3: But get fingered a little. Okay.
Speaker 2: So anyways, he is just talking bs and I hate
Speaker 2: him so much. So then Cabot gets to cross examine
Speaker 2: the witness and she starts grilling him.
Speaker 3: She does an incredible job.
Speaker 2: She's like, well, you have fucking injuries and she was
Speaker 2: fighting you off, like excuse me.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, that's like the game. That's what women want,
Speaker 1: Like they just want this power struggle. Said, it's part
Speaker 1: of the dance, doesn't He yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: He goes, it's in the woman's eyes, no matter what
Speaker 2: the words say. And she goes even if the word
Speaker 2: is no, and she's scratching and fighting and crying and
Speaker 2: asking for help. Five minutes later like that is your
Speaker 2: that's your cue to keep going, you fucking piece of shit,
Speaker 2: and some glad cab It just did an amazing job.
Speaker 2: And then the heartbreak of the episode, if it wasn't
Speaker 2: heartbreaking enough, we get another witness for the defense that
Speaker 2: just came forward and it's a Sudanese man who helped
Speaker 2: her fill out her form and he said that the
Speaker 2: best way to get into the US is to get raped.
Speaker 2: And he was like, no, don't say one soldier, say twelve.
Speaker 2: And basically he told her to lie on this application
Speaker 2: and now out of where he's flying in to testify
Speaker 2: against her.
Speaker 3: What the who is this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. Also, she is saying she was raped
Speaker 1: and he just increased the number of people, like she
Speaker 1: was actually raped. Just he just made it twelve people
Speaker 1: instead of one person.
Speaker 2: Yes, but like, are you reading the news and deciding
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fuck over this woman that I helped?
Speaker 3: I just who? I just don't understand this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this, this.
Speaker 2: Guy just comes over to screw this woman over and
Speaker 2: then cabot zingers and she goes, So you coach people
Speaker 2: to lie, that's your job. Closing arguments. They both do
Speaker 2: a good job. I don't know what to say. It
Speaker 2: was good and the jury is taking so long and
Speaker 2: she's like is that a good sign or is that
Speaker 2: a bad sign? And the jury is unable to have
Speaker 2: a unanimous verdict and I was like so scared it
Speaker 2: was going to be a mistrial, but the judge is
Speaker 2: allowing it.
Speaker 3: Something new. I learned in SV all the time, I
Speaker 3: didn't know that was possible.
Speaker 2: And so it comes back and we get on count one,
Speaker 2: he's innocent but count to guilty and he's fucking shocked.
Speaker 3: We're all shocked.
Speaker 2: And they started to celebrate too early when they said
Speaker 2: he was like innocent on count one, and so I'm
Speaker 2: happy he was arrested. And the judge said he'll do
Speaker 2: one year at Rikers, which obviously for a rape is
Speaker 2: not adequate amount of time, but for a rich, powerful
Speaker 2: guy like this, I think this is a win. Honestly,
Speaker 2: like to have him do a year is amazing. So
Speaker 2: then we're back in the precinct and Craigan tells Benson
Speaker 2: to close the door and Elliott put his papers in
Speaker 2: and there's nothing Craigan can do about it, and Benson says,
Speaker 2: you know, he's earned it, and she doesn't want to
Speaker 2: talk to Craigan about it. She does not want to
Speaker 2: take a day off. Are you kidding me, Craigan? Murshka
Speaker 2: does not take a day off ever, ever. Ever, she's fine,
Speaker 2: and she's cheering up, but she's okay. And then the
Speaker 2: job never stops, and immediately we get a call ten
Speaker 2: thirty four on Waiver and Benson and Finn are gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, roll to the case and hearing Waverley reminds
Speaker 2: me of Waverley in and it's such a good restaurant
Speaker 2: and oh my god, I want to go there. So anyways,
Speaker 2: Benson locks herself into into an interrogation room and starts
Speaker 2: to really cry, like fucking cry, panting breath cry. She
Speaker 2: is so sad that's her guy, and it's an intense cry.
Speaker 1: I think it's like, it's like that scene is like
Speaker 1: if you ever thought that she didn't have like more
Speaker 1: than just good best friends cop coworker feelings for him,
Speaker 1: Like she is heartbroken in this scene. Like this is
Speaker 1: not just like, oh snap, who's gonna get me coffee
Speaker 1: and go to the diner with me at four am?
Speaker 1: Like this is like she is devastated that he is not.
Speaker 3: Going to be with her every day.
Speaker 2: I was watching the Office girls Angela and Pam on
Speaker 2: Watch What Happens Live, and they were saying on the
Speaker 2: end of the office they all cried hysterically. I don't
Speaker 2: think they're all fucking each other and romantically into but they.
Speaker 1: Are at the end. But yeah, that's true. And look me,
Speaker 1: I cry when anything ends. I used to cry at
Speaker 1: after my dance recital every year because I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's over, even though I was starting
Speaker 1: two months later. Like again, like I cry when everything ends.
Speaker 1: But it just feels like he's still going to be
Speaker 1: in your life. You can still talk to him, you
Speaker 1: live in the same city. But I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just feel like there's something that cry is really intense.
Speaker 2: It is intense, and obviously she loves him more than
Speaker 2: just like a casual partner. But I yeah, that's the whole,
Speaker 2: not the whole, but that is an element of SVU
Speaker 2: and why we love it is their dynamic and their love,
Speaker 2: but also they've been through so much. But there is
Speaker 2: a clip with Benson with a Marishka Harga day talking
Speaker 2: about the relationship and she was saying, how like why
Speaker 2: there's been more romantic interests for her post Stabler is
Speaker 2: because she did love him so much that there was
Speaker 2: no room for another man in Benson's life.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen that club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, as she letting us know that
Speaker 2: there was more, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, let's take a quick break and when we
Speaker 1: come back We're going to get into the extremely, extremely
Speaker 1: similar true crime that this episode was based on.
Speaker 4: Let's get into this.
Speaker 1: This story is so closely based on the story of
Speaker 1: Dominique dress Con. This incident happened in twenty eleven. May
Speaker 1: fourteenth of twenty eleven. I was living in New York.
Speaker 1: This was all over the newspaper. This was like the
Speaker 1: story like so huge, so huge. I did not know
Speaker 1: who this man was in advance, but apparently anyone interested
Speaker 1: in like international economics, policy politics knew who he was.
Speaker 1: He was a very well known person, which is no
Speaker 1: one not we know personally, which is no one that
Speaker 1: I talked to or hang out with or me. So.
Speaker 1: Dominique dress Con was a French economist and politician, but
Speaker 1: most notably, he was the managing director of the IMF,
Speaker 1: which is the International Monetary Fund, from two thousand and
Speaker 1: seven to twenty eleven. He spoiler alert resigned following a
Speaker 1: sexual assault scandal. This is that story done done. On
Speaker 1: May fourteenth, twenty eleven, Nafesatu Diallo, who is a thirty
Speaker 1: two year old made at the Safitel hotel in New York,
Speaker 1: alleged that the sixty two year old Strauss Khan sexually
Speaker 1: assaulted her in her suite. That's the overview. Now it's
Speaker 1: funny because you were talking about the Park Milano. That
Speaker 1: is a that's clearly trying to be like an Italian
Speaker 1: style hotel. The Safti Tel is a French style hotel,
Speaker 1: which is a real hotel in New York. It's on
Speaker 1: forty four Street between Fifth and six, which to me
Speaker 1: is not where I would want to stay. It's like
Speaker 1: Times Square, but it is like a fancy hotel. When
Speaker 1: I worked at a terrible job in recruiting when I
Speaker 1: first moved to New York, we used to put some
Speaker 1: of our recruits up at the Safti Tale. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's very nice. So now this entire scandal is happening
Speaker 1: kind of against the backdrop of the financial crisis of
Speaker 1: the late two thousands, like early twenty ten's like eight nine,
Speaker 1: twenty ten, twenty eleven. So the IMF helps to consult,
Speaker 1: they intervene in policies, they shape global economies. It's a
Speaker 1: very important organization, and he is the head of it.
Speaker 1: So this is like a very powerful, wealthy, internationally renowned
Speaker 1: person who is at the time thought to be the
Speaker 1: next president of France. So the president at the time
Speaker 1: was Nicholas Sarkozy, and I think he and Dominique strauss
Speaker 1: Khan very much butted heads, and I think he was
Speaker 1: planning to run against him. Dominique strauss Khan DSK. We'll
Speaker 1: just call him DSK going forward is to like going
Speaker 1: to take up a lot less time. He is actually
Speaker 1: a member of the Democratic Socialist Party, so he is left.
Speaker 1: He's left leaning, he's left wing. So there are creeps
Speaker 1: on both sides of the aisle. I know, we hear
Speaker 1: a lot about right wing guys, like, you know, having
Speaker 1: affairs and doing all this stuff. But I always acually.
Speaker 2: When people are like, oh, that Democrat and it's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: we know everyone does it. Yeah everyone, They're all bad painter, artists, teachers.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah? I hate when they like the parties kind of
Speaker 2: like get some sick joy when someone from the other
Speaker 2: side commits an assault.
Speaker 1: Well it's like your abusers, right, But I do think
Speaker 1: it is there is something sort of satisfying about catching
Speaker 1: a right wing person in sort of like a homosexual
Speaker 1: situation after they've been anti homosexual for a long time,
Speaker 1: being bigger than for a long time. I kind of
Speaker 1: love that get or something I thought about that, or
Speaker 1: like getting caught doing a shoe tap in a bathroom
Speaker 1: when you've been like anti marriage equality. I love that
Speaker 1: hypocrisy being called out as always yeah, always chair.
Speaker 4: So he is leading the polls in France.
Speaker 1: He's leading in the polls as like the left wing
Speaker 1: candidate a year out from the presidential election. Okay, they
Speaker 1: showed like I watched this documentary of him that's called
Speaker 1: Room twenty eight h six The Accusation. It's on Netflix
Speaker 1: right now. It's a four part documentary. Very interesting if
Speaker 1: you want more information on this case. They show him
Speaker 1: wearing a yes we can T shirt like Kahn, like
Speaker 1: his last name. Very funny. So basically May thirteenth, he
Speaker 1: checks into the SAFI Tel New York. He is upgraded
Speaker 1: to the presidential suite, bringing any bells. He asks repeatedly
Speaker 1: for a female employee to bring champagne to his suite.
Speaker 1: So there is a consistency in him asking employees to
Speaker 1: go to his room. So that night the thirteenth, he
Speaker 1: went out. He came home with a female companion in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night. She leaves a few hours later,
Speaker 1: I should mention he is also married. He is married
Speaker 1: also to an extremely wealthy woman. She's worth much much
Speaker 1: more than him. Nafisatu Diallo, on the other hand, is
Speaker 1: an immigrant. She's a single mom. She is an immigrant
Speaker 1: from West Africa, from Guinea, and she came to the
Speaker 1: US for a better life. Now she's living in the Bronx,
Speaker 1: in a low income part of the Bronx, and she's
Speaker 1: commuting every day to one of the richest neighborhoods probably
Speaker 1: in the world, but also in the city. But she
Speaker 1: is super happy with this job. She says, it pays well.
Speaker 1: She's in a union, she has benefits, Like she's really
Speaker 1: jazzed that she got this job at the Safie Tawl.
Speaker 1: Now she's going upstairs on This is May fourteenth, the
Speaker 1: day after he brings home his little uh companion. So
Speaker 1: the fourteenth, a room service guy tells her that he
Speaker 1: has checked out. So she knocks three times and says housekeeping,
Speaker 1: no answer, So she opens the door and like she's
Speaker 1: giving this interview in the documentary, and she's crying. It's
Speaker 1: like really really, like it gets you. She checks the room.
Speaker 1: There's no bags, no laptop on the desk, nothing. She
Speaker 1: doesn't see anybody, you know, she has said housekeeping several times.
Speaker 1: Suddenly he comes out naked. She covers her eyes and
Speaker 1: starts apologizing, like, oh, I'm so sorry. He grabs her
Speaker 1: breasts and goes, you don't have to be sorry. He
Speaker 1: pushes her on the bed. She begs for him to stop.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to lose her job. She even has.
Speaker 1: He says to her, you won't lose your job, Like
Speaker 1: that's how powerful this guy thinks he is, that he
Speaker 1: can do whatever he wants, and like nothing's going to
Speaker 1: happen to you, babe, like I'm important here. And she
Speaker 1: even makes up a lie on the spot to try
Speaker 1: to get him to stop. She goes, my supervisor's right outside,
Speaker 1: like that's not true, but she's freaking out. She describes
Speaker 1: him as like a monkey, like an animal, like he's
Speaker 1: pawing at her and trying to get her clothes off.
Speaker 1: She's resisting. He pushes her down onto the ground and
Speaker 1: forces himself into her mouth, exactly like what happens in
Speaker 1: the episode. She spits it out. She feels disgusting and dirty.
Speaker 1: She runs outside, and then she sees him walking down
Speaker 1: the hallway. Five minutes later with his bags. So I
Speaker 1: find that very interesting too, that it's like later they're
Speaker 1: going to claim it's consensual, So you just have like
Speaker 1: a consensual thing. And then she runs out of the
Speaker 1: room and then five minutes later, you're rushing out of
Speaker 1: the hotel with your bags.
Speaker 3: Is that usually how.
Speaker 1: You're consensual sexual affairs go? Why did her coworkers say
Speaker 1: that he had checked out? Maybe when he went into
Speaker 1: the room to pick up the trays, she didn't see
Speaker 1: the guy. Maybe he was in the bathroom.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's good, that's a good detail question, But they don't
Speaker 1: get into that. So her supervisor comes and had never
Speaker 1: seen her that way before, and you know, like she's
Speaker 1: concerned about reporting, so she's not sure she wants to
Speaker 1: report it. They take her to the security office, tell
Speaker 1: them what happens. She goes, and that's how the drama started.
Speaker 1: Drama being like something that changed her life forever. She
Speaker 1: scared to go to the hospital. She's scared she's gonna
Speaker 1: lose her job. They get her statements, and she is
Speaker 1: always consistent and credible throughout everything, like she knows exactly
Speaker 1: what happened. She says what happened, and basically an hour
Speaker 1: passes from the time of the attack and the time
Speaker 1: of the nine one one call. She didn't want to
Speaker 1: call the police, and the two heads of security kind
Speaker 1: of convince her to call the police. And then this
Speaker 1: is very interesting since it's a hotel, there's cameras everywhere, right,
Speaker 1: the two security guys, two heads of security, they kind
Speaker 1: of go into this side room that looks almost like
Speaker 1: a kitchen, like I don't know, it's some you know,
Speaker 1: back hallway of the hotel, and they on camera do
Speaker 1: like a victory dance. They hug each other. It's like
Speaker 1: their team just won the Super Bowl. And so that
Speaker 1: comes into play later like that they have this on tape,
Speaker 1: like why are these guys celebrating They people think that
Speaker 1: it's like themselfelebrating that they've effectively ended this man's career.
Speaker 1: But other people are saying, oh, they're just excited that
Speaker 1: justice is going to be done and that they convinced
Speaker 1: her to call the police. So there's two sides of that.
Speaker 1: Now they want to arrest, they want the police, want
Speaker 1: to find him. They don't know where he is. Then
Speaker 1: ripped from the pages of a law and order Resvu script.
Speaker 1: He calls the hotel and says, I left my cell
Speaker 1: phone behind instead of a laptop. Now it's a cell phone.
Speaker 1: He stated that he was at the Air France lounge
Speaker 1: at JFK, and so the police take off and go
Speaker 1: right there, and exactly like on the show, DSK is
Speaker 1: seated on an Air France flight about to take off.
Speaker 1: The Port Authority police board the plane. On the show,
Speaker 1: of course, they let Finn do it, and they let
Speaker 1: Munch do it. Many times they've arrested people on a
Speaker 1: plane about to take off. I think normally it's the
Speaker 1: port authority police. He gets handcuffed and taken off the plane,
Speaker 1: and he specifically asked for them to like put his
Speaker 1: jacket over the handcuffs so that when he's walking through
Speaker 1: the airport it just looks like a man walking through
Speaker 1: the airport with two other men, Like it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's being.
Speaker 4: You know, hauled off like a purp walk.
Speaker 1: Did they do it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: He tried to act like he had diplomatic immunity, which
Speaker 1: is not true because I don't think he's a diplomat.
Speaker 1: He's just an important international figure. He's not an actual diplomat.
Speaker 4: They examine her.
Speaker 1: In her physical examination, they find bruising on her shoulder
Speaker 1: and neck. Her pantyhose has been ripped. They find sperm
Speaker 1: on her blouse mixed with her saliva. So it's all
Speaker 1: you know backing her story. They take her through the
Speaker 1: crime scene and the cops that talk in this documentary
Speaker 1: were like, she seemed like the victim of an assault.
Speaker 1: Like she like, there's an outcry witness, there's always the
Speaker 1: person that not always, but in many cases there is
Speaker 1: a person that the victim goes to immediately to tell
Speaker 1: their story. She had eight outcry witnesses, like she told
Speaker 1: her supervisor, she told the security guys, she told like
Speaker 1: within an hour of this happening. She had told many
Speaker 1: people about what happened, and her story didn't really change
Speaker 1: her waiver. So they were racing to question DSK before
Speaker 1: he lawyered up, but he got a lawyer too quickly.
Speaker 1: His lawyers obviously say that there was no force or violence.
Speaker 1: It was consexual. It was conceptxcusing. They say it was consensual,
Speaker 1: But then the cops are like, if it was consensual,
Speaker 1: why didn't they have sex on the bed, why did
Speaker 1: they go down into this weird hallway in the room.
Speaker 1: Why was she forced onto her knees? Why did she
Speaker 1: spit out the ejaculate flea outcry. It's like it's too many.
Speaker 1: It's also nine minutes because there's cameras everywhere, they know
Speaker 1: exactly how long she was in that room. For like
Speaker 1: nine minutes is a pretty like short amount of time
Speaker 1: to like go in, make a connection, decide to have
Speaker 1: a consensual sexual thing, and then run out.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Kara, but we're we're gonna use consexual. We need
Speaker 2: to come up with what that means.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I love it sexual. So they she exactly
Speaker 1: like in the episode, she does a lineup, she picks
Speaker 1: them out of the lineup twice, like no problem.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: She feels like throwing up doing the lineup because she's
Speaker 1: so close to him, and she says, I would never
Speaker 1: forget his face, the person who did this to me,
Speaker 1: Like of course he has several charges. His charges include
Speaker 1: at tempted rape, on lawful imprisonment, criminal sex act. They
Speaker 1: have him in holding and the press show up and
Speaker 1: like the press on this is enormous, Like I think, huge, huge, huge,
Speaker 1: Like this is like a celebrity. But on top of that,
Speaker 1: there's international news stations that are interested in it. So
Speaker 1: it's not just like CNN and whoever coming by a
Speaker 1: New York Post. It's like, you know, French newspapers, German, Asian,
Speaker 1: like everyone's coming over from everywhere to like check out
Speaker 1: this story because he's such a huge international figure. And
Speaker 1: so she gets home from the night, this whole day
Speaker 1: of being interrogated, she hasn't even be able to take
Speaker 1: a shower or like rinse her mouth out, like from
Speaker 1: this horrible incident. And she turns on the TV in
Speaker 1: her house and it's immediately all over her TV in
Speaker 1: the news, and she's freaking out because she didn't know
Speaker 1: nobody told her this guy is French, this guy is
Speaker 1: this huge.
Speaker 4: She knows he's powerful, I think.
Speaker 1: Because he's in the presidential at her expensive hotel, but
Speaker 1: I don't think she knows that he's this huge, huge
Speaker 1: figure and that this is such an international news item.
Speaker 1: So she gets really upset, and eventually so many people
Speaker 1: start coming to her home to try to talk to
Speaker 1: her because they track down where she lives that she
Speaker 1: actually has to separate from her fifteen year old daughter.
Speaker 1: She has to go stay with relatives.
Speaker 2: And I think she like rape victim protection laws in
Speaker 2: that way, like you can't release names and information and
Speaker 2: stock rape.
Speaker 1: There is there is I know that there are you
Speaker 1: don't release names of rape victims, but there's always ways
Speaker 1: that people find this stuff out. I don't really know
Speaker 1: how they all knew where she lived, but they were.
Speaker 1: In the documentary, there's footage of people going to her
Speaker 1: apartment building and trying to like talk to neighbors and everything.
Speaker 1: So this is an event that like completely changed her
Speaker 1: entire life. So in the episode leads, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we actually covered this, but Craigan says, take him
Speaker 1: out the back, no purp walk, and then they do
Speaker 1: it anyway.
Speaker 4: They give him a purp walk, and it's like really.
Speaker 1: Like a ton of cameras. That's exactly what happened in
Speaker 1: real life. They purp walk DSK like in the episode
Speaker 1: they talk about purp walks in this documentary where they
Speaker 1: say they've been going on for decades, like and they
Speaker 1: were like, listen, listen, we tell the media when we're
Speaker 1: going to come out with the purp because we just
Speaker 1: want them to get their shot and get the hell
Speaker 1: out of there. Otherwise they hang around for twelve to
Speaker 1: fourteen hours a day outside of our precinct waiting for
Speaker 1: this person to come out. So it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: But then the lawyer for DSK says, they're totally pointless
Speaker 1: purp walks.
Speaker 4: They just give police a moment in the sun and
Speaker 4: they only serve to.
Speaker 1: Embarrass the accused. So but it's massive, like the number
Speaker 1: of people that are like standing on vans and like
Speaker 1: everyone's taking photos of him, Like it's a ton ton
Speaker 1: ton of people because they're transporting him from a certain
Speaker 1: precinct I think, to like a downtown courthouse. People in
Speaker 1: France like do not believe that he's done anything. They
Speaker 1: think this is a plot to sabotage his presidency. And
Speaker 1: it's like they show in this documentary, they show all
Speaker 1: these clips of like gross old white guys going this
Speaker 1: man does not know violence, like he's a womanizer, but
Speaker 1: he is not violent. It's like, how could you know
Speaker 1: about your friend? How could you know that have you
Speaker 1: ever been in a sexual encounter with him? Like you
Speaker 1: don't know what he's into. So obviously through all this
Speaker 1: they unearthed a ton of shit about him. He is
Speaker 1: this like wild womanizer. He is a real sexually free
Speaker 1: kind of dude, And I don't judge him for any
Speaker 1: of that, Like because he goes to swingers clubs, he
Speaker 1: goes to sex clubs, I'm not judging any of that.
Speaker 1: He did have an affair with a senior staffer at
Speaker 1: the IMF who claimed that she was harassed into the
Speaker 1: affair that like because of his position at the IMF,
Speaker 1: she felt she was like damned if she did and
Speaker 1: damned if she didn't, and so she was like forced
Speaker 1: into this affair with him. The IMF did their own
Speaker 1: investigation into that affair and said it was inappropriate, but
Speaker 1: they did they found that he had no wrongdoing and
Speaker 1: that he didn't physically force her, but she felt forced
Speaker 1: by the power imbalance, which is exactly what me too,
Speaker 1: and Harvey Weinstein and everything is about.
Speaker 4: She got a divorce, her career suffered.
Speaker 1: He got off completely scot free, like so typical like
Speaker 1: thing that you say, she did lose her job, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: she stopped walk she stopped working there, and I know
Speaker 1: that her she was made redundant later, yes, she was fired,
Speaker 1: so yeah, and he got nothing.
Speaker 4: So his behavior became like a joke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is for the IMF thing, This is for
Speaker 1: the Oh okay, sorry, that's what I'm talking about. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about his affair at the IMF that would
Speaker 1: happened earlier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so his behavior was just like a joke.
Speaker 3: To people, like upset about that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just like.
Speaker 3: A Don Juan.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, he goes to swingers, he has swingers parties.
Speaker 1: He has this like unbridled sex life. And apparently his
Speaker 1: very wealthy wife was always just kind of like now,
Speaker 1: he doesn't I believe him, Like she just never like
Speaker 1: she just couldn't see him for who he was, or
Speaker 1: maybe she did see him for who he was and
Speaker 1: didn't care.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And so he is a major adversary of Sarkozy, the
Speaker 1: president of France, who thought that his sexual proclivities would
Speaker 1: definitely preclude him from ever being president of France. He
Speaker 1: was like, this guy's never gonna make it. He's too
Speaker 1: It's like how we all thought Donald Trump's never going
Speaker 1: to be president. He's been married three times with different
Speaker 1: kids from different baby mama's, and like he's you know,
Speaker 1: there's no way, but I think there can be a way.
Speaker 1: So DSK before this trip, right before this trip to
Speaker 1: New York, he reveals that he thinks he's being surveilled
Speaker 1: by like Sarkosi and like Sarcosi's government, that he thinks
Speaker 1: his phone calls are being tapped, his emails are being
Speaker 1: looked at, and that he thinks Sarcose's building a case
Speaker 1: against him. So this is some real house of card shit.
Speaker 1: And then two days later after this, two days after
Speaker 1: the assault, a member of his own party speaks up
Speaker 1: and says that he assaulted her daughter, a twenty three
Speaker 1: year old journalist, nine years earlier, and they interviewed this woman.
Speaker 1: She's a very gorgeous French woman. So this French journalist,
Speaker 1: when she heard the story, she couldn't even She thought
Speaker 1: it was made up. She thought the maid made up
Speaker 1: the story because it was so identical to her own story.
Speaker 1: She thought, this woman has heard my story and is
Speaker 1: repeating it to try to get him, because that's how
Speaker 1: similar they were. Basically, she interviewed DSK. He said, oh,
Speaker 1: if you want to talk more, let's meet up.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: He invited her to an empty apartment where he turned
Speaker 1: off her recorder that she plays on the table, He
Speaker 1: attacks her. They like fight on the floor, and she
Speaker 1: said he seemed very excited by the violence of it,
Speaker 1: but she got away. She ran out before he could
Speaker 1: actually like assault her. I mean he assaulted her, but
Speaker 1: before he could you know, further it And she said
Speaker 1: it was basically like a scene from a horror movie.
Speaker 1: So back in New York. So now this woman's name
Speaker 1: is Tristan and she is she is now thinking about
Speaker 1: pressing charges against him because it's like she's like, as
Speaker 1: much as I keep trying to bury this story, it
Speaker 1: keeps coming up that this man like assaulted me. So
Speaker 1: now we're back in New York with DSK and his lawyer.
Speaker 1: One of his lawyers is Ben Brafman, King of New
Speaker 1: York Defense Attorneys, who has represented Michael Jackson, Harvey Weinstein, Puff,
Speaker 1: Daddy jay Z and a bunch of mob guys. So basically,
Speaker 1: so DSK is facing seven charges and a possible seventy
Speaker 1: four years in prison. Okay, prosecutors do not want him
Speaker 1: to jump bail or they said even if he was
Speaker 1: under house arrests, like, who's to say he wouldn't do
Speaker 1: this again to some poor delivery person or something. And
Speaker 1: they mentioned that he may have committed this crime before.
Speaker 1: So he is actually much like the episode not granted bail.
Speaker 1: He is remanded to Rikers, which is exactly what happens
Speaker 1: in the episode and is very shocking that that would
Speaker 1: happen to such a rich, well known person. They offer
Speaker 1: him to do an electronic anklet, they offer all this
Speaker 1: stuff and they're like, no, he's remanded. He's not granted bail.
Speaker 1: He doesn't scream out, he doesn't freak out, he doesn't
Speaker 1: do anything bad in the courtroom, Like he just says
Speaker 1: to his lawyers, okay, just like get me off, like
Speaker 1: let's go. So he gets moved to Rikers. He's on
Speaker 1: suicide watch there. His lawyers truly feel like he needs
Speaker 1: to be released or he will be attacked or killed
Speaker 1: at Rikers because Rikers is notoriously horrible, and they think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be I don't know if they had the
Speaker 1: ability to put him into solitary or away from gen
Speaker 1: pop or whatever. But and amongst all this, he resigned
Speaker 1: from the IMF and his wife stands by him the
Speaker 1: entire time. And there's like he has like an assistant
Speaker 1: in the documentary who's like the saddest moment of my
Speaker 1: life was writing up his resignation letter. I started crying
Speaker 1: in the middle. I was like, lady, get a life,
Speaker 1: look at your This guy is disgusting anyway.
Speaker 4: So a lot like what happens in the episode.
Speaker 1: Every time he appears in court, there is like an
Speaker 1: amazing protest outside the courthouse of women, like women are
Speaker 1: going nuts. A lot of people do think that the
Speaker 1: DSK trial was the start of the met too movement
Speaker 1: because it this reflected a lot of what was going
Speaker 1: on at the time. There's like huge protests maids from
Speaker 1: other hotels, like the union.
Speaker 4: The Maids Union busts them all in.
Speaker 1: Got them all there, probably paid them while they were protesting,
Speaker 1: which I thought was really cool of this union. So
Speaker 1: they they bring him back to court because he appeals
Speaker 1: the bail. He now does get bail, so he was
Speaker 1: in rikers for a few days. But then he does
Speaker 1: get bail. He gets a home detention to ankler monitor.
Speaker 1: He has to have an arm guard that he pays
Speaker 1: for if there's any problems at all. If he does
Speaker 1: anything wrong, he will be remanded again. So his rich
Speaker 1: wife rents this luxury apartment in Tribeca, which of course
Speaker 1: there are photos of because there's real estate sites and everything.
Speaker 1: So everyone's publishing these photos of like where Dominique draus
Speaker 1: Khan is like in jail, in like a huge loft
Speaker 1: apartment in Tribeca. And then he has a lot like
Speaker 1: the friend that you talk about in the SVU episode
Speaker 1: who comes in and is like, this is the farce.
Speaker 1: He has this friend who's another politician or some kind
Speaker 1: of high up guy from France comes over. He's one
Speaker 1: of the only people that the judge approves for DSK
Speaker 1: to have a visitor, and he suggests to him, you know,
Speaker 1: the way the courts work in America, you really only
Speaker 1: have to convince one juror that you're innocent. And New
Speaker 1: York has such a high Jewish population and DSK is Jewish.
Speaker 1: He's like, you really need to get the Jewish community
Speaker 1: on your side. So then publicly, two or three times
Speaker 1: he has rabbis come visit him at this Tribeca loft
Speaker 1: for just.
Speaker 2: All for the I just don't understand why the judge
Speaker 2: allowed him to have a friend. It's like, you're already
Speaker 2: in this luxury apartment. How do you now get friends
Speaker 2: to come hang out with you?
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, because like you're allowed a visitor
Speaker 1: in jail, so I guess you're allowed, but those I
Speaker 1: don't know it. Those are recorded and observed. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's crazy. It's crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: know why how this guy got in, but then this
Speaker 1: guy and this guy goes it's a little trick we played,
Speaker 1: but I knew he was going to get off, and
Speaker 1: it was like to basically, yeah, to try to get
Speaker 1: a Jew on your fucking I don't think every Jewish
Speaker 1: person's just going to say another Jewish person's innocent.
Speaker 3: But and who are these morally bankrupt rabbis?
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's gross.
Speaker 3: So I think morally bankrupt and.
Speaker 1: Morally corrupt fey Resnik. Yeah, So they appoint this special
Speaker 1: investigator to kind of like double check everybody's stories. And
Speaker 1: I hate this guy. He's in the documentary. He comes
Speaker 1: across like a full asshole. He's on DSK side. Immediately
Speaker 1: they brought Diallo in for interviews, and she didn't speak
Speaker 1: good English. She didn't speak English to the point where
Speaker 1: she was confident enough to give her testimony in English,
Speaker 1: and so they got a translator. He thought he's at
Speaker 1: one point noticed her correct the translator in English. So
Speaker 1: he thinks in his mind she's fucking lying about not
Speaker 1: speaking English, and like, why aren't we doing this in English?
Speaker 1: You understand English, you speak English personally as someone who
Speaker 1: like I lived in Italy, I speak Italian. When the
Speaker 1: Amanda Knox case happened, I'm like, that girl's biggest mistake
Speaker 1: was that she gave all hermony in Italian. She probably
Speaker 1: did not speak good enough Italian and she got completely misunderstood.
Speaker 1: You should have a fucking translator in your native language
Speaker 1: or in the language that you feel the most comfortable in,
Speaker 1: and that's what she did. That's us to say she
Speaker 1: doesn't speak any English. She speaks some English, but she
Speaker 1: felt more comfortable doing it in her own language. And
Speaker 1: this guy thought that was a huge red flag because
Speaker 1: when you have a translator, it gives you a moment
Speaker 1: to think about your answers. That's what his big point was. Sucks,
Speaker 1: they find a sixty thousand dollars deposit in her bank account,
Speaker 1: kind of a red flag. Sketchy. She says her fiance
Speaker 1: doesn't have a bank account and that that's his money
Speaker 1: that he put into her bank account. And it turns
Speaker 1: out this fiance is in Arizona in jail for drugs
Speaker 1: I don't really know what this has to do with anything,
Speaker 1: because as long as you can trace it, the money
Speaker 1: didn't come from like Sarkosi, it didn't come from the
Speaker 1: President of France trying to get you to frame DSK.
Speaker 1: I don't really understand why it matters where this money
Speaker 1: came from. As long as you can locate the original
Speaker 1: where it did come from, and that's it. She tells
Speaker 1: her boyfriend on a recorded call in jail, don't worry,
Speaker 1: he has a lot of money. She denies that she
Speaker 1: said this. I mean, I don't know if there's a
Speaker 1: tape or whatever. This. So the investigator that I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: this guy that I hate is, says he thinks she's
Speaker 1: a con artist. He says, you know, we don't know
Speaker 1: whether she knew he was a high wealth individual before
Speaker 1: she entered that room, but I think she did. I
Speaker 1: think he sucks. It's kind of insane to think that
Speaker 1: this woman, who by her own admission, cannot read or write,
Speaker 1: but is actually part of a huge conspiracy where she
Speaker 1: was hired by the President of France to take down
Speaker 1: the president of the IMF. Like it's just too much.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit too much. I think of a story.
Speaker 1: She told a story to the investigator about being raped
Speaker 1: by a dozen soldiers in West Africa, exactly the same
Speaker 1: as the episode she cries. She hits a very emotional story,
Speaker 1: and then later she admits to the police that she
Speaker 1: made that story up. And she said a guy she
Speaker 1: met helped her do her application for asylum, same as
Speaker 1: this fucking guy that they got. I mean, we thought
Speaker 1: that they created this insane character on us view, but
Speaker 1: this is really what happened. This guy said it would
Speaker 1: help her application for asylum to say that she was
Speaker 1: gang raped, and gave her a tape of a woman
Speaker 1: telling her story of this happening to her. And that's
Speaker 1: why she had so many details and could kind of
Speaker 1: mimic the emotion and stuff like that. And she had
Speaker 1: a bad lawyer in the Sudan who told her to
Speaker 1: make things up for her asylum application. And like we
Speaker 1: already discussed, you can see why people do that. They're
Speaker 1: coming trying to escape a terrible situation. So now she's
Speaker 1: just under so much scrutiny, like they're interviewing her so
Speaker 1: many times, and people on the DSK side are saying
Speaker 1: that she cried rape after he stiffed her for money
Speaker 1: after they had sex, and that she's a sex worker.
Speaker 1: The New York Post, so they run a front page
Speaker 1: story calling her a prostitute. And then yeah, now we're
Speaker 1: at the trial. Like I said, her union shows up,
Speaker 1: they're supporting her, like all these people are there with
Speaker 1: signs like and you know, essentially, her lawyers are like,
Speaker 1: a nine minute sexual encounter does not add up to
Speaker 1: like a consensual.
Speaker 3: Thing.
Speaker 1: You know, that's just that doesn't It doesn't add up,
Speaker 1: Like none of this is making sense. But the prosecutors
Speaker 1: in the in the case moved to drop the charges
Speaker 1: because they cannot prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 4: So the defense doesn't even enough.
Speaker 1: To do anymore. The prosecutors are like, we just can't
Speaker 1: do it. We cannot make this an air tight case.
Speaker 1: The prosecution on August twenty third, So now it's been
Speaker 1: June July, always been three months. This case moved really fast,
Speaker 1: three months the prosecution later, the prosecution says, the witness
Speaker 1: was untruthful with us several times, and this means that
Speaker 1: we cannot in good faith ask a jury to believe
Speaker 1: her testimony.
Speaker 4: And the indictment is dismissed. And he's speaking, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Hey, oh yeah, it's so infuriating, And can I just
Speaker 1: say she had to tell her account of what happened
Speaker 1: a dozen times or more. He never had to say anything,
Speaker 1: He never had to say what happened, He never had
Speaker 1: to testify, he never had to like not nothing. So
Speaker 1: her interviews are really really heartbreaking, and she says she's
Speaker 1: just like in this documentary, like it's really worth watching.
Speaker 1: She says, there's just they don't do anything because I'm
Speaker 1: a nobody. Like if I was somebody, they would have
Speaker 1: put him in jail for a long time. But I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm nobody, And that's it's fucked up because it's
Speaker 1: not true because I really do think people know her
Speaker 1: name and know then like she helped bring a lot
Speaker 1: of awareness to this person.
Speaker 4: And he's not running for president of France anymore.
Speaker 1: So, if anything, you stopped him from becoming more powerful
Speaker 1: than he already was. And his lawyer brags that this
Speaker 1: is one of his greatest successes and it's disgusting. So
Speaker 1: just to follow up, a year later, he is implicated
Speaker 1: in a pimping scandal and they have this woman in
Speaker 1: the documentary who's like I was offered fifteen hundred dollars
Speaker 1: to spend a few hours with him. She had a
Speaker 1: horrible sexual encounter with him, where he did things she
Speaker 1: did not want him to do. She was like, I
Speaker 1: allowed it to happen because I need the money. But
Speaker 1: she's crying talking about it, like it was truly clearly
Speaker 1: traumatic for her. He denies knowing any of the women
Speaker 1: at these little parties. He goes to our sex workers.
Speaker 1: So in twenty fifteen he's acquitted of aggravated pimping. So
Speaker 1: now this is like multiple charges against this man, like
Speaker 1: multi public accusations. Unfortunately, Tristan's case was dropped because of
Speaker 1: the lack of evidence and a three year statute of limitations,
Speaker 1: but she says she feels that her and Diallo the
Speaker 1: Maid were instrumental in the me too movement. So ultimately,
Speaker 1: in the end, Diallo talks in her interviews where she says,
Speaker 1: I feel that many women feel more comfortable coming forward
Speaker 1: and like I've helped people, even if like I didn't
Speaker 1: get justice, and she feels good about that. She did
Speaker 1: reach a settlement with DSK that is confidential, but it's
Speaker 1: reported to be one point five million dollars and Dominique
Speaker 1: Schreskhon has no criminal record to this day.
Speaker 3: Damn, this blows yuck. And does he work now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's consulted well. That rich wife finally left him
Speaker 1: after the pimping scandal. He has a new hot wife
Speaker 1: and he still consults and makes money off of doing
Speaker 1: being an economist. And I don't think his political aspirations
Speaker 1: will ever get to where he wanted him to be.
Speaker 1: He'll never be the president of France. But you know,
Speaker 1: he's still working and living and fine. And I actually
Speaker 1: looked up that Nafisatu Diallo has opened a restaurant in
Speaker 1: the Bronx called Shaye a Mina. I think, so if
Speaker 1: you are in the Bronx or anywhere near, please order
Speaker 1: from there.
Speaker 3: Damn that sucks.
Speaker 2: I can't believe the prosecution just gave up like that.
Speaker 1: They Yeah, I think they were just like, we can't
Speaker 1: make this case air tight, which is pretty wide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that means that they just care about their
Speaker 2: record and winning and losing. It's like, oh, you could
Speaker 2: have swayed the jury. There could have been moments he
Speaker 2: could have still been guilty, like right. That upsets me
Speaker 2: that they wouldn't yeah, in that case I made he
Speaker 2: was guilty. Yeah, who's cy Vance.
Speaker 1: He was the District Attorney of New York for a
Speaker 1: long time, and he was the one that chose to
Speaker 1: drop the charges. But yeah, and she had like she
Speaker 1: had an organization that was backing her throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That was like, this is racist. If this was like
Speaker 1: a black man that committed this crime against like a
Speaker 1: white woman, this would be totally different, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's like there's a lot of layers
Speaker 1: to it, but ultimately it's like, this is a man
Speaker 1: who is like a sex addict of some sort and
Speaker 1: also violent, not that that those are related necessarily at all,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, he was out, he was in
Speaker 1: New York for a couple of nights, and he brought
Speaker 1: home a strange a woman one night, and then the
Speaker 1: next night he forced a maid to give him mooral sex.
Speaker 1: It's like, you, something's wrong with you. You need to
Speaker 1: be in jail.
Speaker 4: Asserting your Yeah, you need to be exerting your power.
Speaker 1: This often, like every single night, every single day, you
Speaker 1: have to be like objectifying and assaulting a woman in
Speaker 1: some investigators.
Speaker 2: And like he's bad enough, but just how many enablers
Speaker 2: there are and how many people were and hitting it
Speaker 2: away with it.
Speaker 1: It was a huge thing that his wife stood behind him.
Speaker 1: She was just in constantly in every interview. It's just
Speaker 1: like in the f few episode, I love him, He's
Speaker 1: I'm with him. Uh, you know, he's done nothing wrong
Speaker 1: and she eventually left him.
Speaker 2: But and I also not that I like this, but
Speaker 2: it's interesting that you knew every like you remember this
Speaker 2: case and I have no idea about it.
Speaker 1: Did you live in New York twenty eleven? No? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I just I read the free paper every
Speaker 1: day on my subway on my way to work, and
Speaker 1: like am New York, and it was just like always
Speaker 1: like whatever the big you know. I just this was
Speaker 1: like and at your bodega when you're going to like
Speaker 1: buy a sandwich or whatever. It's just that's what's on
Speaker 1: the cover of the New York Post. Is like everything
Speaker 1: was about this case. It was like huge, Now I
Speaker 1: just want a bodega sandwich. Okay, Well, stay tuned for
Speaker 1: our post mortem because we do not have a guest. Okay,
Speaker 1: post mortem. I mean I watched this whole story unfold
Speaker 1: in New York as it was happening, So of course
Speaker 1: I was always waiting for an SVU to come out
Speaker 1: about it, and I think they did a good job
Speaker 1: showing how you know, absolute power corrupts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't tell.
Speaker 2: Your coworkers aren't your friends. I mean it always is
Speaker 2: the because we know not to trust a man. But
Speaker 2: like it is so upsetting when it's your galpals. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when it's your and about something like this, like what
Speaker 2: the fuck you dumb bitch, And.
Speaker 1: It's just it is fucked up to how like everybody
Speaker 1: just is always looking for these perfect victims, like victims
Speaker 1: that have no never had any trouble with the law,
Speaker 1: have never told a lie before. Like it's just not
Speaker 1: it's just not possible, and it seems like an impossible
Speaker 1: standard that we hold people up to just if they
Speaker 1: want to get justice for a crime that's been done
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 2: But even if you're a quote unquote a perfect victim,
Speaker 2: they're still they're go there they will always find a hole.
Speaker 3: Like it is really wild.
Speaker 2: Even the people well, I mean it's not like I
Speaker 2: have respect for the people coming to support Russell Brand,
Speaker 2: but it's like, right, even he doesn't look a little
Speaker 2: raye to you, like I just you know Elon musk Be,
Speaker 2: Like that's a good guy. I like that guy, Like
Speaker 2: he is the poster child of someone to look out
Speaker 2: for at a punk show, you know, like there would
Speaker 2: be posters of his space. It's just like they'll just
Speaker 2: defend anyone, and they know these things happen, but they're
Speaker 2: willing to defend anybody first before saying fuck it happens.
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. I don't get it. I
Speaker 2: don'll never understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, also in I'm like I'm looking up really quickly,
Speaker 1: like what has happened to Dominique straus Kon, like since
Speaker 1: his thing like that, because this all happened in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, he was acquitted of a in France
Speaker 1: of quote unquote aggravated pimping, and that was charges related
Speaker 1: to apparently regular sex orgies that he has. Like this
Speaker 1: is obviously a not that there's anything wrong with sex orgies,
Speaker 1: but I just feel like this man is doing bad
Speaker 1: things and taking what he wants. And he's also an
Speaker 1: under investigation right now for like tax fraud in Morocco,
Speaker 1: like stemming from properties he owns there. Like it's just
Speaker 1: these people it's like what we were just talking about
Speaker 1: in the intro. Just these people with like endless money
Speaker 1: that could think they can do whatever they want. It's
Speaker 1: fucked up.
Speaker 3: Well, I hate it.
Speaker 2: Just the system reinforces that, and the media and all
Speaker 2: the other people, like everyone reinforces the thing. Like you
Speaker 2: won't even be in that much trouble, don't.
Speaker 3: Worry about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope Russell Brands serves serious time.
Speaker 3: Like Danny Masterson.
Speaker 2: I hope all of them start fucking getting scared and
Speaker 2: acting right. That's the thing. They're so arrogant. They never
Speaker 2: think they're gonna get caught. And once these motherfuckers start
Speaker 2: getting jailed, maybe they'll start behaving, but it they'll like
Speaker 2: zip up their goddamn pants.
Speaker 1: But it's like Cosby was jailed and then he was
Speaker 1: like let out after a year, Like it would not
Speaker 1: be surprised if Danny Masterson was out in like two years.
Speaker 1: They'll just if you have enough money, it's just appeal, appeal, appeal, appeal,
Speaker 1: until like it happens. I don't know, that seems so negative, Nancy,
Speaker 1: but like I don't know, I just feel like money
Speaker 1: buys you so much. Meanwhile, there's like people rotting in
Speaker 1: jail for having a dime bag of weed. And I
Speaker 1: hate the people that are like, ugh, they're just setting
Speaker 1: an example out of him. And it's like, but I see,
Speaker 1: no that someone got someone's got to be the example.
Speaker 3: What is the problem here?
Speaker 2: I just don't get, like straight up, like there's so
Speaker 2: many examples of who rapes and it's everyone, and it's
Speaker 2: a lot of people in power and famous people, And
Speaker 2: I don't get when the news comes out, why the
Speaker 2: initial reaction from so many people is no way, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like who else is doing this if it's not this guy?
Speaker 2: Like they just imagine Jack the Rippers, Like what are
Speaker 2: the death thing? The grim Reaper? They just think the
Speaker 2: Grim Reaper's out raping.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I just always assume the Grim Reaper was just a
Speaker 1: bunch of like mist underneath that cloak.
Speaker 4: I didn't think he had like a penis. But wow,
Speaker 4: I bet he is raping.
Speaker 1: Okay, should we move on.
Speaker 3: I'll say it was great acting.
Speaker 2: And and diplomats, why do they get all these extra
Speaker 2: rules like commit crimes, it doesn't matter you're in the embassy.
Speaker 2: I don't even get that. Yeah, those rules be for
Speaker 2: government officials.
Speaker 1: Right, especially if it's like body to body crime, like whatever,
Speaker 1: if you want to get out of a parking ticket
Speaker 1: and you're a diplomat, I guess that's like a perk,
Speaker 1: but like like actual crimes against other human beings that
Speaker 1: involve suffering, feels like, no, you should be held accountable.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not in the legislature, so I
Speaker 1: can't make anything happen. But should we move on to
Speaker 1: our what would Sister peg do? For today?
Speaker 3: We should this week for our what would.
Speaker 1: Sister beg Do? Segment where you guys know, we give
Speaker 1: you guys organization, a charity, a blog post, a checklist.
Speaker 1: I don't know something to help give you more information,
Speaker 1: because Lord knows, we are not the end all be
Speaker 1: all scholars on anything. I just wanted to point you
Speaker 1: to the docuseries called Room twenty eight oh six The
Speaker 1: Colon the Accusation, which is a four part series on
Speaker 1: Netflix that does a deep dive into the twenty eleven
Speaker 1: Dominique stress Con sexual assault case. It details his career,
Speaker 1: the allegations made by Nofice Diallo, and the fallout from
Speaker 1: the case. So if you want to get any more
Speaker 1: info on it and then write me and tell me
Speaker 1: I was wrong about a couple of things with the crime.
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