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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 2: All Right, here we go, throwing show.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying it's a cash.

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Speaker 3: God, that's incredible. Big bank, small banks. I like to

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Speaker 2: And we are underway.

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Speaker 3: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the NFL Week nine Fantasy

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Speaker 3: Flex on the Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Friedman, the

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Speaker 3: editor in chief of Fantasy Labs. Here with me a

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Speaker 3: Sean Corner and Chris Raymond. Shawn is our director of

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Speaker 3: predictive Analytics and one of the top end season fantasy

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Speaker 3: football rankers for the past half decade. And Chris is

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Speaker 3: a senior editor and analyst of the Action Network and

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Speaker 3: a co host of the Action Network show on Serious

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Speaker 3: XIM Fantasy Radio. Chris, I noticed that you this past

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Speaker 3: week were number two in the fantasy rankings and Fantasy pros.

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Speaker 3: I believe I was number six, Corner, What is wrong

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Speaker 3: with you? Why are you failing so bismally rankings?

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Speaker 5: I love how I set the bar a little high.

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Speaker 5: Second only disappoint but you know congrats to you guys.

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Speaker 5: You guys deserve it. I don't have to say I

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Speaker 5: need to dive in and see what I didn't do right,

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Speaker 5: but more just a good week by you guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, speaking of a guy who is known

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Speaker 3: to have plenty of good weeks, we are joined by

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Speaker 3: a friend of the show and supposed Friedman vocal doppelganger,

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Speaker 3: Mike Taglier. He's a lead NFL writer and analyst for

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Pros, co host of the Fantasy Pros Football podcast,

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Speaker 3: and two time Top six and he's in Fantasy Pros ranker. Mike,

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Speaker 3: how's he going? It's good man.

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Speaker 6: I feel like we need a buffer in between you

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Speaker 6: and I with how many people have said that, you know,

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Speaker 6: we sound alike. It's weird, you know, like whenever we

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Speaker 6: do a podcast together people say that. So I'm like

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Speaker 6: waiting for Seawan or Chris to hop in between us.

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Speaker 6: So at least some people can distinguish a difference in

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Speaker 6: the voice.

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Speaker 3: I don't hear the difference. I don't know. I know

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Speaker 3: we both have deep voices, but yeah, I don't hear it.

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Speaker 2: It's the white receiver on the Patriots things. It's fucked up.

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Speaker 2: It's fucked up.

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Speaker 4: It's not true. Okay, guys, what is Wes? Welcome the others,

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Speaker 4: Julian Edelman.

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Speaker 3: It's totally okay. Well, in this episode, we're going to

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Speaker 3: try to dispel all of the vocal similarity myths, and

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Speaker 3: on top of that, we're going to break down at

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Speaker 3: the players at the top of our rankings, which, by

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Speaker 3: the way, our available at actionnetwork dot com Slash Fantasy.

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Speaker 3: We're discussing the guys we're high and low on. We're

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Speaker 3: speculating on some props, and at the end of the

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Speaker 3: show we were answering your Twitter Fantasy questions. We got

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Speaker 3: a lot of questions on Twitter. We probably will not

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Speaker 3: get to all of them, so sorry about that, but

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Speaker 3: keep on sending us questions and we will try to

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Speaker 3: get to them. Mike, what caught your eye from week eight?

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Speaker 6: The Tevin Coleman is going to continue to be like

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Speaker 6: the guy and Kyle Shanahan's offense, and he's kind of

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Speaker 6: like showing the purpose that he went out and got him.

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Speaker 6: It's weird, right because like he was a guy in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: Whenever he got a bigger workload, it's seem like he

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Speaker 6: So Tevin Coleman is a guy that I continue to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And the forty nine ers also missing Pro Bowl

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Speaker 3: into the Week nine slate right now. The quarterbacks. At

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Speaker 6: So Matthew Stafford's playing well. They don't have a ground game.

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Speaker 6: And the Janguars are not like a pushover defense, Like

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Speaker 3: Interesting take there on Watson, Sean, I want to kick

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Speaker 3: it to you. What are your thoughts on Watson? You

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Speaker 5: I don't have too much more to add, but you know,

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Speaker 5: you know with Watson, his rushing ability is there. You know,

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Speaker 5: So you know, that's another thing to do with Watson.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's why I have number two tags.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you on Stafford being up there. I have

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Speaker 3: him ranked number four, Chris, I believe you are low

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Speaker 3: to the general weakness of this slate overall. Just you know,

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Speaker 3: given some of the guys that are on buy but tags,

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Speaker 6: I mean, Gardner Minshew is someone that you could probably

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Speaker 6: I started looking over it like the like the pure

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Speaker 3: He should have had two.

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Speaker 6: Like they whistled the play dead last week. It was

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Speaker 6: just a really weird play. But Houston losing JJ Watt

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Speaker 6: third strip cornerbacks in the secondary, DJHR Chris Conley, Dede Westbrook.

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Speaker 6: But Gardner Minshew has shown a solid floor in fantasy

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Speaker 6: And that's another reason I'm kind of worried about Watson

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Speaker 6: I know the Jaguars have been over there before, this

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Speaker 6: so it's like trying to figure out all the intricacies

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Speaker 6: That's my concern there. But Houston has been a team

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Speaker 6: that you just kind of attack with quarterbacks. So Minshew

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Speaker 6: Winston's another guy that that game has the highest over

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Speaker 6: talking about the quarterbacks that Seattle has played, the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: Played, and it's just like it's it's NonStop bad.

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Speaker 6: I think Lamar Jackson was the only quarterback in there

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Speaker 6: that you really concerned about, and he's not actually like

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Speaker 6: Deshaun wattson this week.

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Speaker 3: All right, it's interesting you mentioned Minshew there going against

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Speaker 3: the very depleted Texan secondary, they might be without all

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Speaker 3: three of their starting cornerbacks, so significant edge there that

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts there?

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Speaker 5: I did my initial projections and he was in my

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Speaker 5: you know I teed up earlier this is a week

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Speaker 5: where we're missing quite a few QB one so that's

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Speaker 5: that's part of it. But you know, he's strung together

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Speaker 5: a couple of good games in a row, back to

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Speaker 5: more and two plus touchdowns, and he gets a Lions

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Speaker 2: So I like him.

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Speaker 5: This week, the team total for the Raiders is three

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Speaker 5: points higher than the Pats. This is actually the second

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Speaker 5: highest game total of the week. So this Raiders Lions games,

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Speaker 5: you know, just fancy goodness. So a rare time you're

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Speaker 5: going to hear me touting Derek Carr. But if they're

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Speaker 5: going to be a week, it'd be this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Embarrassingly enough, I'm actually with you on the Derek

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Speaker 3: carr Wagon. You and I both have him as the

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Speaker 3: number one Draft Kings quarterback and our models at Fantasy

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Speaker 3: Labs something to look at further for people who are

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Speaker 6: Kyler Murray is someone I wouldn't play this week if

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Speaker 3: Man. Kyler Murray's outside my top fifteen quarterbacks this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, man, I'm with you there. I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: So for QB, I wanted to hit on Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 5: start questions of holding Lamar Jackson. I just think people

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine that they're gonna come out of this

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Speaker 3: So I'll say under I.

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Speaker 2: Now I think they can turn Lamar Jackson over. I

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Speaker 6: no matter what. In DFS, like that's like a rule

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00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,080
Speaker 6: of mind. Now, it's like, I refuse to fade the guy.

437
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,879
Speaker 6: Like it's been over like a full sixteen game season now,

438
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,560
Speaker 6: and I think he's finished as a top eight running

439
00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,400
Speaker 6: back in like fourteen of sixteen games. It's just stupid, man.

440
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,639
Speaker 6: They pulled him out of the game last week and

441
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,040
Speaker 6: he still hit value. So even though DraftKings Is pumped

442
00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,400
Speaker 6: him up to ten K I'm probably still gonna try

443
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Speaker 6: and find a way to get him in my lineup.

444
00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,960
Speaker 6: But one player that I would say that is in

445
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Speaker 6: the fringe of that elite conversation this week is Josh Jacobs.

446
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 6: He's been getting a lot more work in the passing game.

447
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,920
Speaker 6: We knew he was questionable last week. There's been a

448
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,400
Speaker 6: ton of touches available against the Lions. They've really struggled

449
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Speaker 6: against running backs.

450
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Speaker 3: They've allowed at.

451
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Speaker 6: Least one running back two score twenty plus PPR points

452
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Speaker 6: in six of seven games this year. We expect this

453
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Speaker 6: one to be higher scoring. The Lions are you know,

454
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Speaker 6: the Lion's opponents are averaging I think it's like sixty

455
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,040
Speaker 6: nine point seven plays per game. So there's like not

456
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Speaker 6: much to dislike about Josh Jacobs. I mean again, if

457
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Speaker 6: he's involved in the passing game, like he's starting to

458
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 6: be involved in that passing game, I don't think there's

459
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Speaker 6: much to dislike about him.

460
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Speaker 3: All right, So you're relatively high on Josh S Jacobs Sean,

461
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Speaker 3: who are you relatively high on?

462
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Speaker 5: So, I mean, this isn't really that mold of a

463
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Speaker 5: call or anything about Aaron Jones. He's the top of

464
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Speaker 5: our Labs models right now in plus minus and that's

465
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Speaker 5: just because his price.

466
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Speaker 2: He's seven K and that's you.

467
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 5: Know, he's probably like the eighth most expensive running backs.

468
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Speaker 5: I think he's he's going to be pretty chalky this week.

469
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Speaker 5: You know, DK is a full point PPR, and you

470
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Speaker 5: know we've seen Aaron Jones excel in the passing game now.

471
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Speaker 5: I think it's five stray games now with four plus catches,

472
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Speaker 5: So he's he's gonna be pretty chalky this week.

473
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Speaker 2: I'm high on him.

474
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Speaker 5: And the guy that's a little more under the radar

475
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Speaker 5: I like is Royce Freeman. At forty nine hundred. You know,

476
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Speaker 5: he's he's basically been in a fifty to fifty split

477
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 5: with Philip Lensie all year. But you know this is

478
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 5: back to back games now where he's seen two short

479
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 5: range touchdowns. It makes more sense to have him as

480
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 5: the goal line back. So I think he has that

481
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 5: touchdown upside. He's been the preferred past catching back. I

482
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 5: think this week, you know, with Allen at QB, they

483
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 5: should be and more of a trailing game scrip. So

484
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Speaker 5: I think this game sets up better for Freeman. So

485
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Speaker 5: so I like him at under five day right.

486
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Speaker 3: Now, Raymond, I believe that you are also relatively high

487
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Speaker 3: on Aaron Jones. Who else do you like at the position?

488
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron Jones is more like Sean said, just a

489
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Speaker 4: great value there. I also like Nick Chubb in that

490
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 4: same price range in DFS. The Broncos kind of setting

491
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Speaker 4: up is a little bit of a run funnel. They're

492
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Speaker 4: number five and dvoa against the pass on defense, but

493
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Speaker 4: number fourteen against the run. And Chubb has just been

494
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 4: monstrous every game with a super high floor in terms

495
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 4: of his rushing yardage. You know we saw him even

496
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 4: you know, get get get some good numbers last week,

497
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Speaker 4: despite you know, a couple of early miscues fum charge

498
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 4: fumbles and whatnot. So I like him and going down

499
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 4: the price range a little more. A guy that people

500
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 4: might be a little bit more unsure of. Mark Walton

501
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 4: for the Miami Dolphins. Now, I thought it was interesting

502
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 4: because the whole year they've been using a three man committee.

503
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 4: Then when Kenyan Drake didn't travel with the team, I

504
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 4: thought maybe Miles Gaskin their late round pick this year,

505
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 4: you know, would kind of factor in is that number three?

506
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 4: But he had he was a healthy scratch yet again

507
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 4: Patrick Laird, he's more of a special teamer, but he

508
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 4: also plays running back.

509
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Speaker 2: He's been active.

510
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Speaker 4: So if that is the kind of roster construction going

511
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Speaker 4: forward with Gaskin inactive again, I think that sets up

512
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 4: Walton for sixty to seventy percent of the carries, which

513
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Speaker 4: would then put him on in line for about fifteen

514
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Speaker 4: to eighteen touches. So at forty five hundred, I'm really

515
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Speaker 4: going to be looking out for those inactives because I

516
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 4: think if Gaston's an active Walton he's more of a

517
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 4: solid value that you know, could have Ti Johnson problems all.

518
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Speaker 3: Right, I'm with you, guys on Aaron Jones pretty obvious.

519
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Speaker 3: And one thing that is I think really positive about

520
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: his recent usage is that he's contributing much more as receiver.

521
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 3: And so as long as he continues to do that

522
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 3: and they're using him inventively kind of moving him around

523
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 3: the formation, as long as he continues to function in

524
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Speaker 3: that way, I think it gives him a really high

525
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: floor that he was lacking previously. So that is good

526
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Speaker 3: to see. Tags who are you relatively low on at

527
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: the position? I'm not willing to go in on. I

528
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: know some people are going to be like Damian Williams.

529
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: You know he's now the starting running back as McCoy fumbled.

530
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Speaker 3: I'm not willing to go there. The Vikings are a

531
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Speaker 3: tough matchup.

532
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Speaker 6: It's a weird week because I don't want to say

533
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Speaker 6: that I'm too low on someone just because like four

534
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Speaker 6: teams on by and like a lot of significant running backs,

535
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Speaker 6: Like we're looking at guys that are in the RB

536
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 6: two RB three conversation that you're like, I really don't

537
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 6: want to tell people to start him. But at the

538
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 6: same time, it's like, I think Miles Sanders is someone

539
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Speaker 6: that I would say do not play. I know that

540
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Speaker 6: he cleared the whole shoulder injury thing, but it seems

541
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Speaker 6: like the team is just not giving him the snaps

542
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 6: that he needs to do much. He basically needs a

543
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 6: splash play in order to hit value, and the Bears

544
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 6: have been relatively good against pass catching running backs, where

545
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 6: they struggled as up the middle, where Jordan Howard is

546
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 6: probably going to do the damage this week. Obviously the

547
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 6: whole revenge game narrative, but without a tem Hicks up

548
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 6: the middle of the field, the Bears defense has allowed

549
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 6: I think six rushing touchdowns over the last three weeks

550
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Speaker 6: or three games, I should say, And in the previous

551
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 6: twenty games before that happened, they had a lot of

552
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Speaker 6: five touchdown five rushing touchdowns that entire time. So the

553
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 6: loss of a Cheam Hicks is real, and I expect

554
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Speaker 6: Jordan Howard this is to be a heavy Jordan Howard

555
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 6: game in Philadelphia. So Miles Sanders is someone that if

556
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Speaker 6: you could bench him, I would suggest doing it.

557
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Speaker 3: All right, Sean, you are, as you mentioned, relatively high

558
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Speaker 3: on Aaron Jones. I think that means in some ways

559
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Speaker 3: that you are probably lower on Jamal Williams. What are

560
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Speaker 3: your thoughts there.

561
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's correct, And right now the DK pricing looks

562
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 5: pretty good. There's not really many guys that I think

563
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 5: are overpriced. And you know, if the trade deadline, you know,

564
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 5: happening right now, we're going to see some value plays

565
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 5: likely pop up. But you know, Jamal Williams at fifty

566
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 5: nine hundred, he's a guy where you know, he's benefited

567
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 5: from some touchdown luck past couple of games. He has

568
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 5: three touchdowns the past two games, but he's only been

569
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Speaker 5: averaging eight point five touches. So you know, any given

570
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 5: a week, if he doesn't score, he's gonna you know,

571
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 5: leave you hold in the bag and not really give

572
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 5: you many yards. So at fifty nine hundred, he's in

573
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 5: the same price range as guys like Josh Jacobs, Marlon

574
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 5: Mack and he's actually more expensive than Derrick Henry. So

575
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 5: just right now, he's a full on fave for me.

576
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Speaker 5: Especially when you're gonna have value plays pop up, there's

577
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Speaker 5: absolutely no reason to spend up for Jamala Williams. Who's

578
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 5: who's due for some touchdown regression?

579
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Speaker 3: Rayvaond who are you relatively low on? Uh once?

580
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Speaker 4: One that stands out is Mark Ingram, he just more

581
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Speaker 4: in the in the twenties for me at running back,

582
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Speaker 4: I think he's probably gonna end up in the teens

583
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Speaker 4: uh in ECR, but just not really trying to attack

584
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Speaker 4: New England with running backs in this situation. His his

585
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 4: usage hasn't been quite high enough as a feature back

586
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Speaker 4: to where I'm not I'm not worried about like Gus

587
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 4: Edwards or Justice Hill being in at the at the

588
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 4: wrong time and kind of taking a touchdown away and

589
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Speaker 4: New England just a tough matchup where Baltimore could kind

590
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 4: of see so some game script where they have to

591
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: throw if they do have to throw. You know, Ingram

592
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 4: really hasn't been getting a high percentage. It's been getting

593
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 4: single digit percentage of the team targets, which is not

594
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 4: something I want to see when the team is in

595
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: a tough matchup. And and with Sean McCoy is another one.

596
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 4: You know, what you usually see is target shares for

597
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 4: running backs and wide receivers correlated and as in when

598
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 4: teams are struggling to get the ball out wide, they

599
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: kind of have to dump it.

600
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Speaker 2: Off to their running backs.

601
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Speaker 4: More tight ends aren't usually as affected as much so

602
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 4: with Kansas City's receivers getting healthier. Now you're now you

603
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: have Watkins back in the lineup playing a full compliment

604
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 4: of snaps. You have Tyreek hillback, and of course you

605
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 4: have you know, Robinson Hartman, all those guys that they

606
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: want to get in. I think you're going to see

607
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 4: the running back target shares dip. And I think you're

608
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: already kind of seeing that a little bit with Damian

609
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: Williams not being quite as featured either, even though he

610
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 4: seems to be healthy.

611
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Speaker 2: And I think that's a trend that's going to continue

612
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: going forward.

613
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: And McCoy mentioned the fumble just kind of lost in

614
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 4: this three way committee where even Daryl Williams could come

615
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: in and steal a goal line. Look, so I'm not

616
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: very high McCoy going up against a good defense with

617
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 4: uncertain pass game usage.

618
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: All right, one guy I'm relatively low on is probably

619
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Speaker 3: not a surprise here, Melvin Gordon. I just whatever the

620
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 3: market is going to be on him, I'm just going

621
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: to automatically adjust him five spots down. I just so

622
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: whereever wesettle on Sunday morning, I'm just going to go

623
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: in and automatically move him lower. I want to be

624
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: fully fading him two point six yards per carry, two

625
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: point three yards per target straight trash, And I think

626
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: it's not going to get any better now with the

627
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: firing of Ken wizen Hunt. I think they're going to

628
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: start to transition back a little bit more to Austin Eckler, what.

629
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Speaker 4: Do you have as your projected Carrie share for him

630
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 4: right now? Because he came up really high in my

631
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: model too, and I was not comfortable. I think he

632
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: came up like number eleven, and I like adjusted him

633
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 4: down a little bit. But like what you have, because

634
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 4: like he was getting like seventy percent of the carries

635
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 4: under wizzen Hunt. But now, yeah, I guess you could

636
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: say that you kind of maybe he could kind of

637
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: go kind of put it more fifty to fifty with

638
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 4: the new OC.

639
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: I think he's still probably going to be getting sixty

640
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: percent at least, but so that's that's still high. But

641
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: I don't care. He's just been so inefficient. This offense

642
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: is just in such disarray that I'm assuming somehow, even

643
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: with opportunities, he's going to fail.

644
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 4: I'm just looking for a way to like adjust him

645
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: down because you know, I'm with you, Like I don't

646
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 4: like how much he's popping, but there's only so many.

647
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: Places that can put those yards and touchdowns.

648
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, assuming that yards and touchdowns have to be gotten

649
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: within that offense, and that's not the case true. Speaking

650
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: of touchdowns, Sean, give us the prop for this week.

651
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 5: Will Leonard Fournette score a touchdown this week? Last week

652
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 5: in my tears piece, I called him he's basically Ezekiel

653
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Speaker 5: Elliott without the touchdowns. I mean, it's a shame that

654
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: he's seeing such massive volume and he just can't find

655
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 5: the end zone. So my model this week has him

656
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 5: at a fifty a chance to score a touchdown. So

657
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Speaker 5: I want to hear what your guys' thoughts on it.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with yes, just because regression to the

659
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 6: mean is always what I'm betting on. I'm just too

660
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 6: level headed to continue to say that he's not going

661
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 6: to score. Like, after losing Jadavi and Clowney this offseason,

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00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 6: we knew that the Texans run defense would be a

663
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Speaker 6: little bit, uh, you know, a little bit better of

664
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Speaker 6: a matchup, and they're allowing over four yards per carry

665
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Speaker 6: this year. Now losing JJ Watt that secondary with the

666
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Speaker 6: way that it is, you know that the weapons that

667
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 6: they have to stretch the field there in Jacksonville. I'm

668
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Speaker 6: going to bet on London for that score in this game.

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Speaker 2: That is that is nuts that you have him at

670
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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. I have him exactly fifty to fifty

671
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: adds as well.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'll go over because I feel like out

673
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 4: to London people are going to start talking about it

674
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Speaker 4: more and more, and dudes they have they have these celebrations,

675
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: like I remember Gronk had liked the little what was it,

676
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 4: the little uh uh the guard the little guard robot

677
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: thing that he did, so like I feel like Fournette

678
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: has a celebration, just queued up and then they trying

679
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: to get in the end zone this week.

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, I sent a message to

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Speaker 3: our editor at Action Now, Scott Miller, asking if I

682
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: could describe Leonard Fournette production as chod like, and he said,

683
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: I should probably try to think of another way of

684
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Speaker 3: describing it. But I think that it is rather choed

685
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: like right now with the one thousand yards from scrimmage

686
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: and one touchdown. But I think eventually it will become

687
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: a little more roman like in its robustness, with some

688
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: more touchdowns to balance everything out. So I am going

689
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Speaker 3: to go with the regression front on this and predict

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Speaker 3: a touchdown form. I think you might even get like

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Speaker 3: two touchdowns. Like I think there just might be like

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Speaker 3: an ejaculation of scoring.

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Speaker 2: Bang.

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Speaker 3: Oh what did I agree to?

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about some wide receivers. At the

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Speaker 3: top of the rankings. We have DeAndre Hopkins in that

708
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Speaker 3: London game going against the Jags, Chris Godwin playing in Seattle,

709
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Speaker 3: and then on the other side, Tyler Lockett going against

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Speaker 3: the Buccaneers Tags. There are a number of guys I

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Speaker 3: think you could kind of be in that top tier.

712
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Speaker 3: Who do you have right now in your personal top three,

713
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Speaker 3: that's the exact three I have in mind right now.

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Speaker 3: I have DJ Shark actually like moving moving up higher

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Speaker 3: and higher, and it's like I haven't gotten through all

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Speaker 3: the games. So the way that I do my rankings

717
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Speaker 3: is when I go through them, I kind of slot

718
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: the players in as I write up the games. I

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Speaker 3: still have three games to write up, and I have

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Speaker 3: DJ Shark as a top six wide receiver right now,

721
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Speaker 3: and it's like waiting for him to keep to lower down,

722
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Speaker 3: but I just haven't gotten there yet. The matchup is

723
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: just so good against Houston, seeing him back getting back

724
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Speaker 3: in the double digit targets, knowing that D D.

725
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Speaker 6: Westbrook might not play in this game. There's just like

726
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Speaker 6: a lot of reasons to like DJ Shark.

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Speaker 3: But one player that I.

728
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Speaker 6: Did want to mention that I'm high on this week

729
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Speaker 6: is DK Metcalf. I know he scored two touchdowns last week,

730
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Speaker 6: and you know, we were all waiting for that regression

731
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Speaker 6: to kick in because he was another guy. The air

732
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 6: yards were there, the opportunity with Russell Wilson was there.

733
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Speaker 6: We knew that the Atlanta matchup was good, but the

734
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Speaker 6: touchdowns that he got weren't necessarily like regression. It wasn't like,

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Speaker 6: you know, that's what we were waiting for. It was

736
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Speaker 6: more like Atlanta Falcons just screwed up, like they weren't

737
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Speaker 6: ready on the one play, so Russell Wilson staff the

738
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 6: ball and just tossed it to Metcalf.

739
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Speaker 3: And on the other one, they like just forgot to

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Speaker 3: cover him.

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Speaker 6: So it's like DK metcalf is still has a chance

742
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Speaker 6: to touchdowns this week against the Bucks. They're a team

743
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Speaker 6: that plays They play sides, so basically you can pick

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Speaker 6: the matchups you want. DK Metcalf's runs over sixty percent

745
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Speaker 6: of his routes in the left side of the formation,

746
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Speaker 6: which means he's going to see former first round bus

747
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Speaker 6: Vernon hart Graves and coverage that guy allows over or

748
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Speaker 6: a seventy percent catch rate over the course of his

749
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 6: career for nearly fourteen yards per reception. I mean, there's

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Speaker 6: really not much to dislike about this matchup for DK.

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Speaker 6: I have him ranked as a top twenty five play my.

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Speaker 4: Former first round bless are you in applying that he

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Speaker 4: is no longer a bust well former first.

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Speaker 3: Round Okay, so uh yeah, a few things there. Tags

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm with you on uh Shark. I had him,

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Speaker 3: as I believe, in my first kind of go around

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00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: of projections, I had him at number four, and I

758
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: felt like, no, that's too high, so I bumped him

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Speaker 3: down to number six. But I I still feel like

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Speaker 3: I'm being aggressive there. But that's just kind of where

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Speaker 3: he thoughts in and then DK Metcalf, Yeah, leads the

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Speaker 3: league in end zone targets, so definite opportunities for him

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Speaker 3: to score touchdowns and on on hard graves. The thing

764
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Speaker 3: that's interesting about him is just last week, uh, the

765
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Speaker 3: Bucks in three wide sets started moving him into the

766
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: slot a little bit, so like there's the opportunity that

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Speaker 3: he could get banged both by Metcalf, Metcalf and lock it.

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Speaker 3: Uh And this postulation Ray Vaughan, I don't, I don't,

769
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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. You're just going

770
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: we weren't that wasn't I'm just talking about him, you know,

771
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Speaker 3: getting beat on the football field. But that's what I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about, Sean. Who are you relatively high on this week?

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Speaker 5: So last week I was I was calling Mike Williams

774
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Speaker 5: a BILO candidate, and sure enough, he dropped another touchdown

775
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Speaker 5: you know, he's still scrollless on the game. He's still

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00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: scrollless on the air. And one thing I want to

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Speaker 5: point out is when I say, guys, you know he's

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Speaker 5: a BILO candidate. If he doesn't pan out the very

779
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Speaker 5: next game, it's not like, okay, well never mind. So

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Speaker 5: I'm doubling down on Mike Williams because this happened before.

781
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Speaker 5: You know, I wrote up after Aaron Jones for rushing

782
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: touchdown game that time to buy alow on Aaron Rodgers

783
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: is now, and then sure enough, two games later he

784
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 5: erupted for four hundred dards and five touchdowns. Then I said,

785
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 5: you know, will Fuller, the time to buy low is

786
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: right now. And then two games later he erupted for

787
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Speaker 5: three touchdowns. And then last week I doubled down on

788
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Speaker 5: Dave Montgomery and he had a breakout game.

789
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Speaker 2: So I'm sticking with Michae Williams.

790
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: So this this whole two it takes two games for

791
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 5: the BILO candidate breakdown narrative's gone for him. I think

792
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator change might help him, who knows, but

793
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: you know he's too cheap at forty six hundred.

794
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: What do you say?

795
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: I feel like we just got a like a summary

796
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: of your mentions on Twitter for like the past month

797
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: of like I said this, it didn't happen, so I

798
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: doubled down again. It's just the well, yeah, conscious justification exactly.

799
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm venting a little bit.

800
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Speaker 5: But it does go to show that a BILO candidate

801
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: does not mean, you know, they have to pan out

802
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 5: this very next week. It's more of a few week

803
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 5: sample size we're looking at here. So I'm still sticking

804
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: to Michaelhams being a good BILO guy.

805
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Speaker 4: I just thought it was like an example of like

806
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: Shawn has reached such a god level in rankings that

807
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: his moving at he's actually one week ahead.

808
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: His model is so good that.

809
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: It's actually too fast, like he needs to turn it back.

810
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: Like yeah, seriously, Yeah, so I helped.

811
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 5: Being two weeks early isn't really helping an accuracy contest.

812
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 5: You're onto something there, Yeah, so you were a week

813
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 5: early on on my Williams.

814
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: There, Ravon now is appropriately timing his Michael Williams enthusiasm. Rayvon,

815
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Speaker 3: you are high on Williams this week? Who else are

816
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: you high on?

817
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: So there are a few wide receivers, particularly on DraftKings

818
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: in this you know, they're below five k and they

819
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: project for twenty percent or more of the target. So

820
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: I think Williams is kind of right there at around

821
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: twenty percent. I think his targets here this year is

822
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: eighteen to five some high in him. But Jarvis Landry,

823
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 4: I expect him to be heavily targeted. You know, he's

824
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: already above twenty percent. And the Browns really I mean

825
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 4: with with Nadjok, who hurt it's it's Beckham, it's Landry,

826
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 4: it's Chubb, and you know whoever random fourth guy, whether

827
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: it be Calaway or a tight end, mixes in. But

828
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: Lander's gonna get a ton of targets. So I think

829
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: he's a great value anyone coming off a game against

830
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: the Patriots. I think that's something we need to watch

831
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 4: for for the rest of the year because expectations are

832
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 4: just going to be naturally lowered. Their season averages are

833
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 4: going to be naturally lowered, and it's just going to

834
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: be kind of artificial deflation.

835
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: Another player, Curtis Samuel.

836
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: He's a player that projects for over twenty percent of

837
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 4: the targets at Friedman.

838
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: I know you talked about in your wide receiver.

839
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: Cornerback piece that you know he could be in for

840
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 4: a little upgrade in matchup depending on the health of

841
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: the Titans second secondary and of Dori Jackson. So I

842
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 4: think he's in a good spot, especially if Jackson sits,

843
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 4: because that just decreases the speed in that secondary, which

844
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 4: is a plus for Samuel, So Landry, Samuel, Mike Williams.

845
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: Three guys under five k who like the target chair,

846
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: I like it.

847
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: One guy. I'm relatively high on Mike Evans. I have

848
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: him at number three. I mean, in my first pass

849
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 3: of projections, I had Godwin and Evans at number one

850
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: and two, and I was like, no, I can't do this.

851
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: But I mean, Evans is number one in the league

852
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: in air yards and yards after the catch combined per game,

853
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: which is pretty correlated with receiving production. So just still

854
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: pretty bullish on him and what he would doing last

855
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: week just on the contested the contested catches, bailing out

856
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: Jamis Winston. I think he's just playing at a near

857
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: elite level right now.

858
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: Bro, you got to just trust your model.

859
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 4: Man. I feel like every time I try to go

860
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: against my model, like and like I'm like I can't

861
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: have this.

862
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: It's like the exact opposite thing.

863
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: That I adjusted for happened like last week, Like you

864
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 4: wouldn't believe this, but Matt Schaub was popping as number

865
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: twelve in my model, and like I actually had him

866
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 4: sitting there in the Action Network rankings at twelve for

867
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 4: like a good part of the week, and then like

868
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 4: I manually adjusted him down to like eighteen, and then.

869
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: He threw for like four hundred and fifty yards and

870
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm an idiot.

871
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: Classic, Well, hey, you were still number two in Fantasy

872
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: pros ranking, which is that's the.

873
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: Only one that had match job higher than twenty fit right.

874
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: That's all shop, Thanks Matty, Thanks Mattie boy.

875
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 3: Okay, tag, who are you relatively low on this week?

876
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 3: Odell Beckham?

877
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 6: He was a guy that I mean, like last week

878
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 6: obviously he had the Patriots, but I talked about him

879
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 6: being a cell candidate before that game because I knew

880
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 6: he was up coming schedule against Thetriots. And now I

881
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 6: should put a disclaimer here. This is pending Chris Harris

882
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 6: not being traded, because if Chris Harris is still there,

883
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 6: the number one receivers he's shadowed now is Alan Robinson

884
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 6: four catches forty one yards. DeVante Adams four catches fifty

885
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 6: six yards. DJ Huk four catches forty four yards, Mike

886
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 6: Well Keenan Allen four catches eighteen yards. Corey Davis, Well,

887
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about Corey Davis, but tyreek

888
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 6: Hill Cray catches seventy four yards.

889
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: T Y Hilton two catches fifty four yards. Like there's

890
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: a trend here, Like there's It's very rare that I.

891
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 6: Find a cornerback that I'm worried about with Odell Beckham

892
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 6: or like an elite level wide receiver that gets targeted,

893
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 6: but knowing that the chemistry hasn't been there between him

894
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 6: and Mayfield, and combined with the fact that Chris Harris

895
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 6: is like legitimately one of the guys you try and avoid.

896
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm low on him sweek. Yeah, I think great

897
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: call there, Sean, who are you relatively low on?

898
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: So Terry mclaurin's sixty two hundred on Draft Kings this week,

899
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 5: and you know, talent wise, he's worth that price, But

900
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 5: right now, especially at Buffalo could be a weather game,

901
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 5: he's a complete fade for me. Having said that, after

902
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 5: the week ten by their schedule does open up, so

903
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 5: he'll be a good Bilo candidate.

904
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: Then and then the other guy.

905
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 5: It pains me to say this because I'm so high

906
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 5: in Car this week. But Tyrell Williams, you know, obviously

907
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 5: he's the number one wide receiver in this offense, but

908
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 5: Carr does like to spread the ball. And now that

909
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 5: Tyrrell is back from his injury, he scored a touchdown

910
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 5: again last week. So one of these weeks I'm going

911
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: to look like a genius by saying that Tyrell Williams

912
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 5: will not score in every game that he plays. When

913
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: it does happen, when he doesn't score a touchdown, you know,

914
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: he's not going to really give you the receptions or

915
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: yards to put up a useful score. So I'm fading

916
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 5: him this week when it comes to Car, I think

917
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 5: I'm going to be stacking him mostly with Darren Woler

918
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: this week. In fading Tyrell Williams. Just like I said,

919
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: you know, he doesn't get that much targets to you know,

920
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 5: weren't you know, seeing a touchdown every game? So I'm

921
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 5: expecting some regression there.

922
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: Raymond, who are you long?

923
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: I think the guy that stands out and it's kind

924
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 4: of tough looking for guys low that I'm low on

925
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 4: at this point anyway. But Courtland Sutton, he kind of

926
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: struggled last season when he he was ascended to the

927
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 4: number one receiver. He actually was a little better when

928
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: you know, he was the number two and he had

929
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: guys taking coverage off of him. Now he's got Brandon

930
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: Allen at at QB, where I know everyone's going to

931
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: make the jokes about Flacco and you know, any anybody

932
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: else as an upgrade, but this Brandon Allen guy. And

933
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: I was looking back at his preseason numbers, and they

934
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: his preseason numbers look like like if you like, over

935
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 4: his career looked still like bad NFL starter numbers, which

936
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: is always a red flag for me. So I don't

937
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 4: think things are going to get better in Denver. And

938
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 4: you know, combined with the fact that he's just struggled

939
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: a bit with with with with coverage, I think that

940
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: you know, fifty eight hundred mentioned, there's a lot of

941
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 4: guys in the four thousands that project for.

942
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: Similar target shares twenty percent plus.

943
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: Sutton's probably a guy that I'll fade that I think

944
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 4: maybe relatively popular.

945
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: Otherwise, Okay, I just have to say that within the podcast,

946
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: there's like this game that's going back and forth, you know,

947
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: And this happens every week. Someone says they name a player,

948
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: and it's player that Sean is going to give a

949
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: prop on later. And so whenever someone says that they're

950
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: high or low on this player, Sean gild this smile

951
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: on his face because I know he's going to manually

952
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: adjust the line that he was going to get. And

953
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: so now I don't know if Raymond so Raymond mentioned Sutton,

954
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: Sean is going to give a prop on Courtland Sutton.

955
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: Now I don't know if Raybon is just mentioning Sutton

956
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: to try to get to move the line a little bit.

957
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I was being a shark, but honestly,

958
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: I just I put in the guys that was high

959
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: in at like nine or ten this morning.

960
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: All right, Sean, give us the Courtland Sutton inflating line.

961
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 5: No, I'm a deflating No, I'm gonna keep it the

962
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 5: same because you know, Raybond's right. I went back and

963
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 5: I looked at brand Allen's some of his preseason starts,

964
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 5: and you know, the Rams they didn't give him any

965
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: stars to work with. I mean, they have him thrown

966
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 5: to Jojo Nats and bad Mike Thomas and Seema Webster

967
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 5: against first string defenses. So he's bad, but I think,

968
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 5: you know, Cortland Sutton's so good that I don't think

969
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: it's going to impact them too much. So I'm sticking

970
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: with this prop of seventy one and a half receiving

971
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 5: yards under under.

972
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have it right around there, and actually, like

973
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: my number is a little bit higher, but I'm going

974
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: to take the under just because I feel like I'm

975
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: too high on it and like I know where I

976
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 3: am in my projection process that I haven't accurately accounted

977
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: for the drop off.

978
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think, if anything, they might be

979
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 5: a little more aggressive. I mean, he made some dumb decisions,

980
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 5: like he'll throw a backhanded, you know, left handed pass

981
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: ten yards up in the air or something, and that

982
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: you know that hurts the Broncos in real life.

983
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: But a guy like.

984
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 5: Sutton, I think if they, if they just press the issue,

985
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 5: it can only help them.

986
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

987
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: Denzel Ward and like everyone's healthy for Cleveland though, that's

988
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: that's what kind of words me they could they could

989
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: try to just I mean, it's just like, who else

990
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 4: are you worry about at this point on the Broncos

991
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: to where you don't double triple.

992
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sutton, that's true. That's true. That's kind of my concern.

993
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 4: But I mean, yeah, he's he's living on just big

994
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 4: places because they're a couple of games where he's like, oh,

995
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: he has a bad matchup and then he just hits

996
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: like a sixty yard boyce. I think, yeah, it's one

997
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: of those where it's like it's either way over or

998
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: it's probably way under.

999
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1000
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: If he throws three interceptions and you're a setting on,

1001
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 5: you don't really care as long as he's you know,

1002
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 5: forcing the ball to him and stuff. So that's that's

1003
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: where I think people kind of confuse real life value

1004
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 5: with fancy. I think it could still pan out.

1005
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the tight ends. The guys

1006
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 3: at the top of our rankings right now. George Kittle

1007
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: on Thursday Night Football at Arizona, Travis Kelsey going against

1008
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 3: the Vikings, and then Darren Waller going against the Detroit Lions. Mike,

1009
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: does that seem like the top tier for you early

1010
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: in the week.

1011
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, They're always gonna be a top Like Zach Ertz

1012
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 6: would probably be in that conversation if he, you know,

1013
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 6: started producing with the targets he got. But he has

1014
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 6: a tough matchup against Chicago this week. So yeah, those

1015
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 6: are the guys that I would have a top my

1016
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 6: list for sure. One of the guys I'm higher on

1017
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 6: is Jonu Smith. I'm assuming that delanney Walker is gonna

1018
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 6: miss his game. I'm assuming that delanney Walker might not

1019
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 6: even play the rest of the year. The injury that

1020
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 6: he's dealing with is in relation to the broken angle

1021
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 6: that he had last year, and that was had some

1022
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 6: ligament damage. I don't think he's playing Juoniu Smith first

1023
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 6: game with Ryan Tannehill saw seven targets, caught six of

1024
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 6: them for seventy eight yards in a score. And I

1025
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 6: know that some people are going to say, well, you

1026
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 6: know it was the Bucks, but truth be told, the

1027
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 6: Panthers have actually allowed more production on a per target

1028
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 6: basis than the Bucks have this year. The Panthers have

1029
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 6: been traditionally bad against tight ends under Ron Rivera, So

1030
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 6: I find no reason to fade jon new Smith this week.

1031
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 6: And yeah, he's in my top ten tight ends. All right, Sean,

1032
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 6: who are you relatively high on?

1033
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 5: So sticking with the Broncos. I'm going to say, Noah

1034
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: Fant just says the three K tight end flyer of

1035
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 5: the week. For me, it sounds like Jeff Huerman could

1036
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: miss Week nine, so that's going to open up even

1037
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 5: more opportunity for fans. But you know, like I said,

1038
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 5: you know Brandon Allen, I looked into his stats at

1039
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: Arkansas and he heavily targeted tight ends. He had Hunter Henry,

1040
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: Jeremy Sprinkle and aj Darby werebies in college, so you

1041
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 5: know he pensity to you know, target the tight end

1042
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 5: a bit. And like Raybon mentioned, you know Denzel Wards back,

1043
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: the Browns secondary is healthy, so they could double triple

1044
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 5: team something this week. And without Emanuel Sanders there, you

1045
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 5: know that it's wide open. Who's the number two option

1046
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 5: this offense? And last week Dayshawn Hamilton I thought he

1047
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: might be that guy saw zero catches and someone named

1048
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 5: Fred Brown played sixty five percent of the snap, So

1049
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: you know, I just think the potential for Fant is

1050
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 5: there to see targets and at three K, you know,

1051
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 5: in that range you're just taking a flyer anyway, So

1052
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 5: I think he has the most upside of those guys.

1053
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: So he's I think he's.

1054
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 5: Worth a fire this week just to see how brand

1055
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: Allen looks in his start this week.

1056
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: I think it's hilarious that you went back to the

1057
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: Arkansas stats from twenty and thirteen to twenty and fifteen

1058
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: to see how this guy targeted tight ends.

1059
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 5: I feel like it goes back when I was playing

1060
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 5: college football dfs like in ten, so I do remember

1061
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 5: those days well. But yeah, I mean Hunter Henry getting

1062
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 5: ANJJ Darby was abuse back then too.

1063
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Rayvon, who are you relatively high on? Wow?

1064
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: Those names?

1065
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: For me, it's it's I mean again, it's pretty cut

1066
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 4: and dry over the top eight, but I think tags

1067
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 4: hit on it. John new Smith is a guy for

1068
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 4: me for all those same reasons, so he's my TE

1069
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: nine right now, and then Darren Fails is my te ten.

1070
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: So that kind of tells you what kind of tight

1071
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: end week it is.

1072
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, a guy I am relatively high on t J.

1073
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 3: Hawkinson going against the Raiders and at Raymond. As you mentioned,

1074
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: it's just kind of like this is the tight end

1075
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: week that we have. So Hawkinson at number eleven, I

1076
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: think he has a lot of upside, and then going

1077
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: against the Raiders, which have allowed the third most Fantasy

1078
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: points per game to tight ends. It's like you just

1079
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: you have to take a stand on some guy at

1080
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: some point, and so I'm on Hawkinson here, Mike. Who

1081
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: are you relatively low on Dallas Goddard.

1082
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 6: There's a lot of people that want to plug him

1083
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 6: into lineups right now, but it's not it's not a

1084
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 6: matchup to do that. He still is the number two

1085
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 6: tight end in terms of snaps, in terms of targets.

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00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 6: I know the production is there, but I'm a better

1087
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 6: on like things flipping rather quickly. But the Bears, dating

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00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 6: back to the start of last year, this is a

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00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 6: span of twenty three games. Just one tight end is

1090
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 6: top forty nine yards against them, and that was George Kittle,

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00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 6: who saw twelve targets. So no, I'm not betting on

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00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 6: the backup tight end in the offense.

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Speaker 3: I am with you there, Mike. I'm relatively low on

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00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: Earth and Goddard this week in part because of the matchup,

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00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: and then also because they can just kind of cannibalize

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00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: each other's production, which I'm sure is going to impact

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00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: the line that Sean sets for us. Noted, Sean, who

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00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: are you relatively low on? So?

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00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy Graham.

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00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 5: He's forty three hundred on DraftKings, and you know he's

1101
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: done pretty good well with DeVante Adams out, but with

1102
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 5: him do back this week, I think he's gonna turn

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00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: back into you know, a touchdown or bust type of

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00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 5: tight end. And when you have that type of tight end,

1105
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 5: you might as well just spend down three K this week.

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00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 5: Like you guys mentioned, tight end's brutal this week, So

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00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 5: you're either going to spend up on one of these

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00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: six K guys or you know, take a flare at

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00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 5: three K. But there's seen a reason to spend it

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00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 5: up to get Graham at forty three hundred when he's

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00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 5: gonna revert back to being a touchdown er bus tight end.

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Speaker 3: All right, Ray Bond, who are you staying away from?

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00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: Jason Witten?

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Speaker 4: And this might come back to halting against the Giants,

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00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: but looking at Witten's game logs, in every game but

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00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: the game that Amari Cooper got hurt, he's gotten exactly

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00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: four targets, So you know, no more than four targets,

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00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 4: no less than.

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00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Four targets on four targets, it's tough.

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00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: You know, it's touchdown or bust as it is, but

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00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: you know, he's kind of pretty set in stone that

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00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: you know, he's not going to be a high target

1123
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: upside guy as long as the Cowboys have their their

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00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: healthy receivers. The Giants poor secondary that opponents actually have

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00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: been not targeting tight ends quite as heavily against the Giants,

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00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: presumably because they've been able to get whatever they want

1127
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 4: out wide. So I think that continues, so witting the

1128
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: guy and just these older guys in general, I think

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00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: we start having to think about fading them a little

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00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: bit more down the stretch. So I think Greg fading

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00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 4: Graham is a good call walker, maybe even Greg Olsen

1132
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: depending on you know, how he's looking. But you know,

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00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 4: this is that time of year where these guys start

1134
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 4: to wear it down.

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00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Not like I want to be the wit and Truther,

1136
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: but wit and going against the Giants is it's a

1137
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: strong narrative street to walk down, That's all I'm saying.

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00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: True, Okay, pretty God is like eight touchdowns against the Giants.

1139
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: Though in week one didn't.

1140
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: He corner give us this deflated zach ERTs line.

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00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: So the line I'll offer you guys is fifty two

1142
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 5: and a half receiving yards for under.

1143
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: Over, I have NIM at fifty seven.

1144
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 3: I'm going under. I'm going under here. Okay, okay, let's

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00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: wrap this up with some rapid fire answers to the

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00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: Twitter fantasy questions. First one, Mike, this is from the

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00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: Game Script. Are you holding or selling? Philip Lindsay with

1148
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: Brandon Allen at quarterback? Hold that defense is still good.

1149
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: They're gonna run. There's gonna be more run heavy now

1150
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: that the key defense keeps him in games. Hold, Sean.

1151
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: This is from Jeff Higgs. Can Fournette keep this pace

1152
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: up with his workload? What are your thoughts on Armstead?

1153
00:49:59,239 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: Is the handcuff?

1154
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 5: He absolutely can, but you know, with his injury prone history,

1155
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 5: Armstead is a great handcuff to have in case he

1156
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: goes down.

1157
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 3: Raybond This is from The Fast Is there any chance

1158
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold will not suck this week versus the Dolphins.

1159
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 4: There's a chance, but he's actually not popping in my motto.

1160
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 4: He's still at QB twenty two, so not excited about

1161
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 4: starting him.

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00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: Mike.

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00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 3: This is from Dusto. Is Malcolm brown Worth holding?

1164
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: No?

1165
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: They offer The Rams offense isn't what we thought it

1166
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: was gonna be Sean. This is from Gary Cohen Trade

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00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: targets and sales for Fantasy Playoffs.

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00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 5: Well, since you're asking this, I'm guessing you have a

1169
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 5: good record and you're gonna make the playoffs. So I

1170
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 5: would actually, instead of just saying, you know, target teams

1171
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 5: with an easy schedule facing the Dolphins or something, try

1172
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 5: to go after the injured players like Mahomes, David Johnson,

1173
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 5: maybe Will Fuller because you can sacrifice that short term

1174
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 5: sun costs to benefit you in weeks fourteen through sixteen, Raybon.

1175
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: This is from Fantasy Freak DFS Drake Samuels or singletary

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Speaker 3: this week in PPR.

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Speaker 2: It's clearly right for me.

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00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 4: There's kind of the there's the upside that Drake gets,

1179
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: you know, eighty ninety percent of the backfield touches because

1180
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 4: that's what Edmonds got with Johnson out, That's what Johnson

1181
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: was getting early in the year. So it's not a

1182
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: definite that he, you know, has his Miami usage where

1183
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 4: it's like around fifty percent of carries with a good

1184
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: target chair, it could be higher than that.

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00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 2: Mike.

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00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: This is from Steven Dell Hudson thoughts on Herndon and

1187
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo rest of season.

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00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 6: Jimmy Garoppolo, No, no, even in two quarterbacks leagues, he's

1189
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 6: a bad play. But Chris Herndon, Yeah, Sam Darnold with

1190
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 6: the fact that he's like the literally the worst deep

1191
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 6: ball thrower in the league right now, and that he

1192
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 6: has chemistry with Herndon, He's had the most success over

1193
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 6: the middle of the field. Herndon is someone that I'm

1194
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 6: willing to grab to to see how things pan out,

1195
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 6: and it should start off well against Miami this week.

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00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: Sean last question here from Harry Ankles. Can you talk

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00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: more about your idea for the quote unquote low ball

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00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 3: Fantasy Football League.

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00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 5: Well, that's a great question, Harry Ankles. Yeah, I mentioned

1200
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 5: this idea on Twitter, you know, lobell I. It's not

1201
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 5: some unique league concept, but I thought of, you know,

1202
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 5: have a low ball league where if you get a zero,

1203
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 5: it's actually like a twenty point penalty. I think that's

1204
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 5: the best way to make a true low ball league.

1205
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 5: So you're gonna want it guys that get low. You

1206
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 5: can't just play a guy that's out or inactive, but

1207
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: it forces you to play guys that will get some

1208
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 5: production but not a lot. So We've had some fun

1209
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 5: with that on Twitter the past couple weeks. I've seen

1210
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 5: some people actually create leagues like this and have versions

1211
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 5: have been on DK so it's been fun to see.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mike, what content should people check out of yours?

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Speaker 3: This week?

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Speaker 6: At Fantasy Pros The Primer I write, it's got a

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00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 6: paragraph on every player from every game. So if you

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00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 6: ask me on Twitter, like honestly, I don't get around

1217
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 6: a lot of the questions on there just because I

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00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 6: spend you know, it's over thirty thousand words a week

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00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 6: that I write for that article. It's free on Fantasypros

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Speaker 6: dot com. Again, it's the Primer and it comes out

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Speaker 6: on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: All right, great piece of content there. Everyone'll be sure

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Speaker 3: to follow tags on Twitter at Mike taglier NFL. Mike,

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Speaker 3: thanks for joining the show. Oh thanks for having me

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Speaker 3: on guys. All right, everyone, you can follow Sean, Chris

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