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Speaker 4: It's Tuesday, December fifth.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jamie Earldre's fyl Grant, Peter Feger, Jason mccordy, Happy,

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Speaker 3: Jake Browning Tuesday, everybody. And that was an impeccable Monday

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Speaker 3: Night football performance.

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Speaker 4: Not see it coming.

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Speaker 5: Not for the Jags defense. I don't think they saw

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Speaker 5: it coming. Yes, and Jake Brownie, Yes, Welcome to the.

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Speaker 6: NFL fans of Washington Football. So that's our guy ninety

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Speaker 6: touchdown passes in college.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the Commanders the.

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Speaker 6: College football Playoff.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think we'd be starting the show with this

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Speaker 1: type of icebreaker conversation. It was supposed to be the

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence Core Nation.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but let's go. Let's go to Duval County. Last

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Speaker 1: time Monday Night book, I went to Duval County. Blaine

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Speaker 1: Gabbert was handing off to MJ D And I really

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Speaker 1: mean it. It was that long ago Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Win on a forty eight yard or hold off.

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Speaker 1: That is the rap and that man just won his

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Speaker 1: second career start is on Monday Night Football. It was

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Speaker 1: on the road, and it's a very good team, and

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Speaker 1: he was incredible. Thirty two of thirty seven for three

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Speaker 2: And two touchdowns. Bengals win.

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Speaker 7: They're alive.

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Speaker 1: Six and six. Guys, this Jake Browning. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: he looks like. Let's hear his voice. Take it away, Jake.

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Speaker 8: You know, I haven't played a lot of football, but

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Speaker 8: it's not like I'm not used to winning. Like, I've

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Speaker 8: won a lot of games in my career. None of

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Speaker 8: them have been in the NFL until today, which is

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Speaker 8: obviously noteworthy. But you know, I'm used to winning. I've

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Speaker 8: won a lot of football games in my life.

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Speaker 3: That was We all just really stared at his face

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Speaker 3: because we wanted to know more about Jake Browning. Tom Pealosaro,

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Speaker 3: good morning to you. That was the winning quarterback for

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Speaker 3: Monday Night Football. A brutal finish for the Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 3: as they watched Trevor.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure fans were devastated having that game being played

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Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. What is the latest with his ankle.

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Speaker 9: This morning, Jamie, what I am told is that the

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Speaker 9: initial diagnosis for Trevor Lawrence is an ankle spring. He

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Speaker 9: will undergo an MRI today to further assess the damage. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: with ankle springs, you are talking about ligaments that are

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Speaker 9: stretched or torn. There's different degrees of that. That evaluation

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Speaker 9: is going to determine exactly how much, if anytime, Trevor

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Speaker 9: Lawrence might miss our Cameron Wolf, who was at that

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Speaker 9: game last night, said that in the postgame locker room,

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Speaker 9: Lawrence was in good spirits. He was on crutches, he

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Speaker 7: Obviously, the team is.

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Speaker 9: Hoping that this is not something more severe for Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 9: If he cannot go, then it would be Seed j

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Speaker 9: Bethard take it over as their starting quarterback moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Jamie, and as Peter mentioned, Bethar had been around, so

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Speaker 3: hopefully the Jags and Doug Peterson can firm this in

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Speaker 4: We'll see how long it is. Tom. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you in just a minute about other

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Speaker 3: injuries around the league. As we take a gander at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, now we shake it up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So I'm going to snow Globe.

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Speaker 6: What do you got there? Yeah, Kansas City went from

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Speaker 6: you see you have two different AFC North teams in

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Speaker 6: with the Texans, the Broncos and oh look who's there.

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Speaker 6: The Bengals and the Bills are usual playoff teams, just

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Speaker 4: My goodness.

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Speaker 3: Very curious those logos on the right and the fact

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Speaker 3: But let's focus on the Jags and the Bengals. Peter

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Speaker 3: a fascinating game to watch on full considering what we

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Speaker 6: You know, the Bengals were double digit underdogs in this game.

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Speaker 6: Come wow, I double digit underdogs. They come in. Everyone

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Speaker 6: And he was almost like mini Burrow out there the

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Speaker 6: all right, well, okay, that's a great story. He looked

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Speaker 6: after the game, He's like, well, it's been a long

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Speaker 5: And yeah it was.

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Speaker 6: It was because his career resume is wild. We bring

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Speaker 6: too late. We should have done this before. This is

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Speaker 6: a week one at Cleveland. Fine, that was your Okay,

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Speaker 6: Vikings and Bengals practice squad since twenty nineteen. This guy's

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Speaker 6: been waiting since pre covid a year time just to

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Speaker 5: So this is not just.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guy comes from nowhere. He's been waiting his turn, and.

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Speaker 6: He's been persistent and just hanging around, and he attached

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Speaker 5: Back in this playoff run. Definitely, you talked about it.

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Speaker 5: Three fifty four. That was the most Burrow hasn't thrown

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Speaker 5: and hats off to Zach Taylor in the offense and

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Speaker 5: At one point in the game, they talked that he

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Speaker 5: you may not understand all of it. Five man protection,

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Speaker 5: he did that all night long and it was impressive.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know what I've been doing with my eyes

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Speaker 1: And I've said this all week, guys, I don't want

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Speaker 1: It's been too much. Tim Boyle and Tyson Baigent and

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Speaker 1: And I said this before. This was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: we're coming in. We're gonna win this thing. I have

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Speaker 1: that great first drive and you're like, okay, they got

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Speaker 1: I know that's gonna fall apart. It never fell apart.

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Speaker 1: the same record as the Bills. I'm sitting here now,

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Speaker 1: what is the December fifth? I think something insane is

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Speaker 1: I mean, is the Jake Browning Bengal experience gonna get

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Speaker 1: next week. Yeah, but like that was a difference maker

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Speaker 1: that changed things because on the other side of things, Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Go was like we want the one seed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're getting the one seed now,

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Speaker 1: Like that was a massive game.

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Speaker 2: Jake brown is a nice story. I hope it continues.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, that sucks and get hurt.

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Speaker 1: This affects all the teams in the AFC, of which

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Speaker 3: December might become our backup quarterback month because the Jake

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Speaker 3: Joshua Dobbs maybe or I don't know who's playing Jared

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Speaker 5: He said. Browning said when he threw that ball, he

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Speaker 6: That's fine to talk a team that's kind of is

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Speaker 4: An indictment on the New York.

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Speaker 2: Like he was so angry. We never see him like that.

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Speaker 3: Tom Pellisaro, welcome you back. What else are we keeping

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Speaker 9: Well, Jamie, let's start out with three time All Pro

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Speaker 9: In other news, Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett underwent surgery on

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Speaker 9: Now when players have this tightrope type surgery for the

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Speaker 9: Maybe not until Week eighteen, which means for now it

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Speaker 9: that is in playoff position. Also, Saints quarterback Derek Carr

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Speaker 9: Bruce Irvin drove his former teammate into the turf on

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Speaker 3: All right, once again we see the non starting quarterback

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Speaker 3: moving forward. Tom, thank you so much, who's on the

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Speaker 3: that stress continues remains to be seen. What do we

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Speaker 1: October fourth of this year, the Philadelphia Eagles was the

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Speaker 1: We got it and we had this in conversation and

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I saidho's your team?

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Speaker 1: the hell does that look?

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Speaker 2: You were just in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You're four and oh, and he said the quote we

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Speaker 1: The concern for Philadelphia isn't that the storm is passing through,

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Speaker 1: He's got to call Mike, call the show right now.

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Speaker 1: We need to hear from you, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I'm with you in a lot of ways, and

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Speaker 6: You go to Dallas and you lose, and all cards

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Speaker 7: It's awesome, it's great.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard Christian McCaffrey's podcast is unbelievable, all together

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Speaker 2: This is this sobering for Philly. They've been darlings.

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the cash ships to my wife last day,

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Speaker 2: It's cool.

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Speaker 1: It's not cool when you get destroyed at home by

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Speaker 5: I look at them right now, and this has to

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Speaker 5: talk of town has been our dvs couldn't tackle. That's

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Speaker 5: been the talk since this game. On Sunday, we go

435
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Speaker 5: out and get Shaq Lennor, a three time All Pro.

436
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Speaker 5: But this is a guy coming off up to back surgeries.

437
00:18:40,668 --> 00:18:43,068
Speaker 5: The Colts owe him money and they still release him.

438
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Speaker 5: And we're saying we're gonna better our defense by going

439
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Speaker 5: out and getting him. Of course, you welcome him. You're

440
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Speaker 5: excited to have anybody that's going to help your team win.

441
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Speaker 5: But at the same time, now everybody is questioning your defense.

442
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Speaker 5: And for the Eagles right now, you still have the

443
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Speaker 5: best record in the NFL. And now all we are

444
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Speaker 5: doing here, we're sitting at a table on otherbody's doing it,

445
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Speaker 5: questioning their toughness, the resiliency, the.

446
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Speaker 6: Toughness, whatever, no no, no, no, no, no else, whatever, whatever

447
00:19:08,268 --> 00:19:10,908
Speaker 6: you can plug in, whatever work you're questioning them, doesn't

448
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Speaker 6: matter the exact words you're using.

449
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Speaker 5: So if you're the Philadelphia Eagles, you're fired up to

450
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Speaker 5: go on the roll to this Cowboys team and say,

451
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Speaker 5: you know what we wanted, solidify and show everybody we

452
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Speaker 5: are who we are. We lost to a really good

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Speaker 5: forty nine Ers team, and to you guys point, if

454
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Speaker 5: they lose this game, we're now looking at Dallas's first

455
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Speaker 5: place in the division. And now we talked about the

456
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Speaker 5: big four in the NFC. Now it's a race of

457
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Speaker 5: four to get to that number one spot of who's

458
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Speaker 5: going to win the games down the stretch to have it.

459
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Speaker 5: So this is to me the biggest week obviously for

460
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Speaker 5: Philly season, coming off of that butt kicking and I

461
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Speaker 5: got over the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: If you are questioning a team's ability to beat another

463
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Speaker 3: talented team, you are questioning all the adjectives that go

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Speaker 3: with it, whether it be custodas or resiliency or any

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Speaker 3: of those things.

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Speaker 6: We interry out, and I want you to go back

467
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Speaker 6: to March and all of the different news and headlines

468
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Speaker 6: of Tom Pellicero and Mike Garaffre freezing, Frenzy Ian.

469
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Speaker 5: Ravin breaking for us.

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Speaker 2: Come on out, there's my statement.

471
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Speaker 6: Gardner Minshew was the best free agent signing of the

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty three NFL offseason.

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Speaker 2: Are we inter reaction?

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Speaker 5: Oh, Gardner Mitchell has been so good. You start thinking

475
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Speaker 5: about some of the guys shows you have mentioned today,

476
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Speaker 5: Von Clowney signing that he's been you can add Vanoy

477
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Speaker 5: to that. In Baltimore, Minshew has been really good. I'm

478
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Speaker 5: going to go with another guy. I'm gonna go out

479
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Speaker 5: and I'm going to go with Jesse Bates of the

480
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Speaker 5: Atlanta Falcons. This safety has been unbelievable for that defense.

481
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Speaker 5: Five interceptions, making a ton of tackles all over the field.

482
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Speaker 5: Every week. It seems like he shows up from the

483
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Speaker 5: very first game when he went against Bryce Young had

484
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Speaker 5: the two picks. Jesse Bates has been great this season.

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Speaker 5: It has really showed up for the Atlanta Falcons defense.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm on Gardner Minshew. Jason's talking about some safety

487
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Speaker 1: safety bits.

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Speaker 2: I love just face.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I think that Gardner Minshew is important this

490
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Speaker 1: year because we have seen the injury of the franchise

491
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Speaker 1: quarterback and you've seen every team drop their quarterback. I

492
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Speaker 1: feel like in the offseason, these teams in these GM

493
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Speaker 1: and these owners need to have a real conversation about

494
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Speaker 1: our backup quarterback. Peter brought up the Jets and seven eight.

495
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Speaker 1: You know what, prioritize it. Maybe you don't have that

496
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Speaker 1: second elite pass rusher and you really want it.

497
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Speaker 2: I know you do.

498
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Speaker 1: Get the backup quarterback do you understand that they had

499
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richards and let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's screw it, let's start.

501
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Speaker 1: And to start the start season, he's injured in about

502
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes and it's like, Gardner, you're the season. We

503
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Speaker 1: could go three and fourteen this year, and like, no,

504
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Speaker 1: I think we'll go to the playoffs. In set, because

505
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Speaker 1: they had a plan, they had a guy, they had

506
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Speaker 1: his experience. You can't just say I'm sure they'll be healthy.

507
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Speaker 1: They don't stay healthy. So yes, Gardner Minshew is the

508
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Speaker 1: biggest one. I listen, I could say Jalen Ramsey or

509
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Speaker 1: this person, that person. Fine, Gardner Minshew is the starting

510
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Speaker 1: quarterback for a team headed to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you beat thought.

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Speaker 3: Two things that be came in on when researching this segment.

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Speaker 3: First of all, there was a moment in the production

514
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Speaker 3: meeting before the television broadcast where the TV partner has

515
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Speaker 3: to ask the team, can we send a camera into

516
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Speaker 3: the locker room if you win?

517
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Speaker 4: And the team has to agree to that please. I'm

518
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Speaker 4: in on the Colts always.

519
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Speaker 3: Aligning the camera in the locker room, because if we

520
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Speaker 3: had that footage of Gardner Mitchell dancing every week in

521
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Speaker 3: on it. Secondly, when I went to answer the question,

522
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Speaker 3: I thought, surely not. There must be another free agent,

523
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Speaker 3: and I went deep on the list and I was like, oh,

524
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Speaker 3: Gilly locks to Van Gilburn. That was a trade, so

525
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Speaker 3: that didn't qualify. Then I thought, well, CJ. Gardner Johnson

526
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Speaker 3: now not really the alliance. So I am too going

527
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Speaker 3: to go in on Gardner Minshew because of the backup

528
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Speaker 3: quarterback conversation.

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Speaker 5: Jesse bas may be a first team All Pro.

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Speaker 4: I'm just throwing out out there, but does he dance

531
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Speaker 4: like that? Jay said? Does he wear flip flops in

532
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Speaker 4: the meetings?

533
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Speaker 5: His team is win in the division right now. I'm

534
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Speaker 5: just saying.

535
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Speaker 6: Okay, Javon Hargrave has been very good, but he's not

536
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Speaker 6: Minshew right now. James Bradburry was a good signing.

537
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Speaker 5: They really signed back to his tea. Same David Montgomery's

538
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Speaker 5: really good in Detroit.

539
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Speaker 6: Minshew Jason Minchew were based. I don't think we're having

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Speaker 6: this debate.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible debate value.

542
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Speaker 6: I'll take that value of the top safety in the

543
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Speaker 6: league or a quarterback who's won four straight games. Have

544
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Speaker 6: that debate at home? And how many of you fans

545
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Speaker 6: of teams that are on the outside looking in are

546
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Speaker 6: not kicking your stuff's Like, it's not like Minshew showed

547
00:23:07,028 --> 00:23:09,868
Speaker 6: up out of nowhere, like Minshew was awesome for the Jaguars,

548
00:23:10,068 --> 00:23:12,068
Speaker 6: was a good backup for the Eagles last year. One

549
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Speaker 6: game like, how do you let teams.

550
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Speaker 2: Have a low profile guy?

551
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Speaker 7: Though?

552
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Speaker 4: So he's under the right, right, I'm assuming.

553
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Speaker 6: Okay, So from those backup quarterback conversations to another one,

554
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Speaker 6: Thursday Night's going to feature two teams with great, great history,

555
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Speaker 6: excellent defense work in the history, excellent defenses, but some

556
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Speaker 6: anemic offenses. In fact, the Patriots have allowed just twenty

557
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Speaker 6: six points over the last three games, and they've lost

558
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Speaker 6: all three those games. Here is the statement, folks, the

559
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Speaker 6: Bailey Zappi led Patriots, we think, we think soon, I guess,

560
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Speaker 6: and the Mitchell Trubisky led Steelers will combine for more

561
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Speaker 6: than twenty points on Thursday Night.

562
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Speaker 4: Twenty make sense out?

563
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Speaker 6: Can you get to twenty twenty?

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Speaker 5: Is like such a lie?

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Speaker 2: So I think like thirteen nine, that's over twenty thirteen seven.

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Speaker 2: You think of a lot of permutations.

567
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Speaker 1: What if it was twelve to more than twenty, more

568
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Speaker 1: than twelve to nine, then yes, since thirteen ten.

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Speaker 5: I like it. The Patriots and Steelers will combine for

570
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Speaker 5: more than twenty.

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Speaker 6: What do you think Bill Belichick scenes when and he's

572
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Speaker 6: walking in the facility and these scenes that is this insulting?

573
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Speaker 7: Tomlin?

574
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Speaker 6: Is this insulting to them? Or No?

575
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Speaker 5: These are building defensive coaches watching the film. They didn't

576
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Speaker 5: score a point last week, but I am going and

577
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Speaker 5: they're going to combine for more than twenty How do.

578
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Speaker 6: You see it happening?

579
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Speaker 5: Because the Patriots, they've been waiting for this Thursday night

580
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Speaker 5: game for Prime Time to unleash Moleik cutting. Okay, he

581
00:24:55,748 --> 00:24:57,668
Speaker 5: reverted back to the Pride squad, but he can be

582
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Speaker 5: elevated again this week Thursday. They've been saving it. They're

583
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Speaker 5: going to outleash. They were waiting for Al Michael's and

584
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Speaker 5: Herbstreet to show up with the Amazon Prime crew. And

585
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Speaker 5: it's going to be this week that we get to

586
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Speaker 5: Malik Conningham show and he's going to get this game.

587
00:25:12,628 --> 00:25:18,068
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, I say no, Steelers sixteen Patriots three.

588
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Speaker 1: There's a funny thing with this where we talked about

589
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Speaker 1: this that where in the Amazon put out their promo

590
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Speaker 1: for the on their broadcast for next week's game, and

591
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Speaker 1: it's Patriots Steelers and there's a picture of t J.

592
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Speaker 1: Watt and the Patriot picture of Bill Belichick, and you're like,

593
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Speaker 1: what the hell, that's not even a player. You put

594
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Speaker 1: the coach up. If anything, you would put Belichick and Tomlin.

595
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Speaker 1: They put Watt and Belichick. Now this got some attention,

596
00:25:37,868 --> 00:25:38,748
Speaker 1: and they have a new one.

597
00:25:39,028 --> 00:25:39,628
Speaker 7: I don't have it.

598
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Speaker 1: I don't have it, but I'm watching this morning and

599
00:25:42,188 --> 00:25:44,268
Speaker 1: it's TJ. Watt and it's a player for the Patriots.

600
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Speaker 1: I don't know who it is. You know, I know

601
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Speaker 1: I could not recognize the player. He has a helmet off.

602
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Speaker 2: I don't know who it's. It's not Zappy, it's not

603
00:25:51,628 --> 00:25:54,788
Speaker 2: Ramandre is probably heard. I don't know who the player is.

604
00:25:54,868 --> 00:25:57,228
Speaker 2: So if you scroll through it, Jason, you can live like,

605
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Speaker 2: I don't know who it is.

606
00:25:59,108 --> 00:25:59,308
Speaker 5: Zeke.

607
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Speaker 2: It's not Zeke. I know Zeke.

608
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Speaker 4: Look that's true.

609
00:26:01,348 --> 00:26:03,588
Speaker 2: I would know it's not the Mario Pop Douglas.

610
00:26:03,668 --> 00:26:04,828
Speaker 7: I don't know who it is is Peter.

611
00:26:05,228 --> 00:26:07,948
Speaker 1: So I'm not making fun of Amazon like I sympathize.

612
00:26:07,948 --> 00:26:09,628
Speaker 1: Believe me, We've had to make some chickens out on

613
00:26:09,628 --> 00:26:11,468
Speaker 1: this show where I think we're doing it now, but

614
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Speaker 1: so I think sub twenty though.

615
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Speaker 4: Who's the receiver that dropped that great ball? That's episode

616
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Speaker 4: I'll get it. Hold on, Jamie, what the love of God,

617
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Speaker 4: I'm in on this.

618
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Speaker 3: The person Jamar Chase turning to evil last night, the

619
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Speaker 3: person who came up with this question is trying to

620
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Speaker 3: be evil to us right now.

621
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Speaker 4: I feel like you're just baiting.

622
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Speaker 5: Us to know who that is Bentley?

623
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Speaker 7: Who?

624
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Speaker 2: Jawan Bentley is next to T. J.

625
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Speaker 5: Watt.

626
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Speaker 7: That's where we're at.

627
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Speaker 3: Jawan Bentley more about his name than his name.

628
00:26:37,868 --> 00:26:40,108
Speaker 5: I know, linebacker.

629
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a great player's Jeff Bezos is the

630
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Speaker 1: largest company in the world.

631
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Speaker 2: Amazon next to T. J.

632
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Speaker 1: Watt is gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

633
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Speaker 1: Jowan Bentley, that's great. I would have rather have an

634
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Speaker 1: actual Bentley, like just the picture of a Bentley.

635
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Speaker 4: It should be Tomlin and Belichick.

636
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Speaker 3: To your point, yeah, for the love of God, please

637
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Speaker 3: more than twenty points.

638
00:26:57,548 --> 00:26:58,708
Speaker 4: All I'm going to say.

639
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Speaker 6: I don't know if we could promise you that.

640
00:27:00,308 --> 00:27:03,108
Speaker 5: Jamie definitely can't promise it, can't.

641
00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:04,868
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's going on and and the

642
00:27:04,868 --> 00:27:07,148
Speaker 6: Steelers might be playing playoff football.

643
00:27:07,468 --> 00:27:10,588
Speaker 4: Uh huh, yeah, that's where we're at with this.

644
00:27:10,868 --> 00:27:12,308
Speaker 2: I don't have an X layer of this period.

645
00:27:12,428 --> 00:27:12,748
Speaker 5: I don't know.

646
00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:17,068
Speaker 2: Nineteen to sixteen to three, that's you have.

647
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Speaker 6: You have nineteen.

648
00:27:17,988 --> 00:27:21,108
Speaker 3: My only wish is that if the Patriots don't score again.

649
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Speaker 3: That Belichick answered the question about he tried to get

650
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Speaker 3: out of my Grease's questions last week, which I didn't

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Speaker 3: really appreciate because it was a valid question. When Mike

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Speaker 3: Grease was trying to say, are you surprised the offense

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Speaker 3: has been unable to produce?

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Speaker 4: That way, Belichick came back at.

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Speaker 3: Him and said, I'm not doing a season in review

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Speaker 3: right now. I'll just talk about the game, Okay, Are

657
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Speaker 3: you surprised that your offense can't produce in a game?

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Speaker 3: Then I would just want something. And I know I'm

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Speaker 3: shouting at a cloud because it's Bill Belichick, but my goodness,

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Speaker 3: if we do it again, then I guess just another

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Speaker 3: round of answerless questions.

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Speaker 2: And Juwant Bentley has four sacks on the season. That's

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Speaker 2: pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Bentley, man, it's a good linebacker for them.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's Juwan like maybe like a single digit

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Speaker 1: lexus or something.

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Speaker 2: What is it zero or something? I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: Why would you wh wouldn't you put Ezekie Elliott? He's

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Speaker 1: been pretty good lately. I sympathize TJ. Watt and Juwan Bentley. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Who's making those calls?

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Speaker 6: We got our three times Super Bowl champion, our NFL

673
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Speaker 6: network front office. Lest mister Scott.

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Speaker 10: Scott, Good morning guys. I want one of those old

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Speaker 10: trapper hats. I mean, make you look like I have

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Speaker 10: a little hair.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you look good.

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Speaker 6: My friend Trevor Lawrence unfortunately suffered will look to be

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Speaker 6: a pretty severe ankle injury and last night's loss. Could

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Speaker 6: you describe the philosophy of who you have as a

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Speaker 6: backup when you have these young franchise quarterbacks. In their

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Speaker 6: case was c. J. Beth In the Bengals case, it

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Speaker 6: was Jake Brown. And but when you're trying to contend

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Speaker 6: for a Super Bowl, when you look at the backup

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Speaker 6: quarterback position, when you're building this thing from scratch, what

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Speaker 6: is the philosophy for certain teams?

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Speaker 10: Well, first of all, it's critical, Peter, And what you

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Speaker 10: have to do is in the off season or the postseason,

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Speaker 10: you have to spend a lot of time in March

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Speaker 10: and April making that decision and then executing your plan.

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Speaker 7: If you look at teams, for instance, a team.

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Speaker 10: Like the Bengals, they decided several years ago to draft

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Speaker 10: a player to develop him, keep his salary down low.

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Speaker 10: He's only making seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars this year,

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Speaker 10: but he's a player that they developed within their system

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Speaker 10: and that's how they wanted.

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Speaker 7: To do it.

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Speaker 10: Then you've got other teams with the philosophy who are

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Speaker 10: willing to spend a ton of money. The Commanders are

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Speaker 10: paying their backup Jacoby Brissett eight million dollars a year.

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Speaker 10: So it's a matter of what you want in your

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Speaker 10: room philosophically as coaches, in terms of a veteran player

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Speaker 10: or a young quarterback that you're developing. But the other

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Speaker 10: part that you have to pay attention to is you

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Speaker 10: always have to think about the aggregate cost of your

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Speaker 10: quarterback room and how that's going to impact the rest

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Speaker 10: of your roster.

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Speaker 7: There's different ways to do it.

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Speaker 10: Back when I was with the Patriots, we wanted our

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Speaker 10: backup quarterback to be a player that we drafted and developed.

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Speaker 10: That's what happened with That's what happened with Castle when

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Speaker 10: they came in and had to play. So again, different

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Speaker 10: philosophies for different teams, but that decision needs to be

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Speaker 10: made early.

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Speaker 1: Scott when they're not singing Christmas songs and podcasts. And

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Speaker 1: the Eagles lost to the forty nine ers one hundred

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Speaker 1: and nothing at home the other day, and so they

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Speaker 1: went out and signed a linebacker to.

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Speaker 2: The culture release. Is this going to shore things up?

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Speaker 1: And how do you talk to the locker room or

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Speaker 1: the meeting room or anything about we're still a superpower?

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Speaker 2: How do you get off the mat after that one?

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Speaker 7: Kyle?

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Speaker 10: I think you just do That's what football players do.

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Speaker 10: That's what good football players do, and that's what good

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Speaker 10: teams do. I don't think that this is really shaking

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Speaker 10: their confidence in a weird way, I know this, Nick

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Speaker 10: Sirianni was not happy on Sunday, he was not happy yesterday,

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Speaker 10: but now he's having to change his locker room's thoughts

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Speaker 10: and how they're going to approach this game and get

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Speaker 10: back to optimism. So in a weird way, this loss

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Speaker 10: and this beatdown by the forty nine ers is another

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Speaker 10: way to tell your football team listen any Sunday, we

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Speaker 10: can get whipped and we see it time after time.

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Speaker 7: And the Eagles did not look good the other night.

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Speaker 10: But again, if we go back several weeks, there was

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Speaker 10: a period in time where the forty nine Ers lost

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Speaker 10: three straight games and they didn't lose to powerhouse football teams.

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Speaker 10: So the most important thing is each week you have

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Speaker 10: to get ready to be the best team on the

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Speaker 10: field that particular day. And this past week, the forty

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Speaker 10: nine Ers was certainly the better team in the Eagles.

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Speaker 10: But if I'm the Eagles, I'm not shaking too much

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Speaker 10: and my confidence remains high.

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Speaker 3: Scott, you, more than anybody else, must understand the perfect

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Speaker 3: marriage that must exist between GM and head coach. The

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Speaker 3: Lions got back on track on Sunday. They are in

748
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Speaker 3: the mix for the NFC's one seed. Do you think

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Speaker 3: Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell are that top tier perfect

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Speaker 3: marriage of GM head coach in the NFL right now?

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Speaker 10: The Jamie, you know, I don't know if it's ever perfect,

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Speaker 10: but it's certainly darn close. I look at those two guys,

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Speaker 10: and I listen to those two guys when you hear

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Speaker 10: them talk about one another, and how much respect that

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Speaker 10: they show for one another for the jobs that the

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Speaker 10: other person has to do.

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Speaker 7: It's really pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 10: Then they've got this confluence of beliefs in terms of

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Speaker 10: how they want to build their team, how they want

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Speaker 10: to build their culture, how they want to do things,

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Speaker 10: and it is so much in an alignment. And that's

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Speaker 10: a critical thing when you're building a football team, because

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Speaker 10: you want the person that goes out and finds the

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Speaker 10: players for the coach to understand the coach what he

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Speaker 10: wants and how he wants to do it. So when

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Speaker 10: I watch Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell, I see a

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Speaker 10: terrific marriage. The other thing I see is the fact

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Speaker 10: that they are not only smart and thoughtful, but they're

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Speaker 10: also humble. They were smart enough when they built that

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Speaker 10: football team. They put together a terrific team through their

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Speaker 10: drafts and free agency and trades, but they also held

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Speaker 10: on to really good players like Frank Ragnow that show

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Speaker 10: you the amount of humility they had to understand, hey,

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Speaker 10: we've got some good players here too. So I love

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Speaker 10: watching this marriage.

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Speaker 5: So fascinating to watch them. Scott. The one thing we

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00:33:01,668 --> 00:33:04,028
Speaker 5: love and appreciate from you and your relationships with people

778
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Speaker 5: in the life now and president in the past, semi

779
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Speaker 5: finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It was

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Speaker 5: just released this past week, and I know you know

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Speaker 5: a number of players and names on that list. Tell

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Speaker 5: us what's set out to you the most.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'll tell you. You just showed the photo there.

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Speaker 10: I got to leave with Rodney Harrison. Any Way, You

785
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Speaker 10: look at Rodney Harrison and people may say that I'm

786
00:33:25,748 --> 00:33:27,588
Speaker 10: being a bit of a homer, but I'm not. Rodney

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Speaker 10: Harrison checks every single box that you need in terms

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Speaker 10: of an individual and as a team player. He won

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Speaker 10: two Super Bowls. He was the first player in NFL

790
00:33:36,868 --> 00:33:40,748
Speaker 10: history to have thirty sacks and thirty interceptions and still

791
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Speaker 10: to this day, there's only two players that ever done it.

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Speaker 7: It's Rodney and it's Ray Lewis.

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Speaker 10: We also saw Vince will Fork up there, who was

794
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Speaker 10: transformational in terms of our defense for the New England Patriots,

795
00:33:50,748 --> 00:33:53,628
Speaker 10: where we had been switching out our big nose every year.

796
00:33:53,908 --> 00:33:57,228
Speaker 10: He came in and stabilized our defensive line that won

797
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Speaker 10: multiple championships.

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Speaker 7: But he was a great pro.

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Speaker 10: We saw a couple of other pictures of players up there,

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Speaker 10: and Devin Hester, who I was very fortunate to be

801
00:34:05,308 --> 00:34:07,228
Speaker 10: with for a couple of years in Atlanta. And then

802
00:34:07,348 --> 00:34:10,788
Speaker 10: Dwight Freeney, who was absolutely an amazing player, and he

803
00:34:10,948 --> 00:34:12,628
Speaker 10: was with us on our run to the super Bowl

804
00:34:12,668 --> 00:34:15,748
Speaker 10: that we lost against the Patriots. But watching a player

805
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Speaker 10: like Dwight Freeney, who is not only a great player,

806
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Speaker 10: but to watch his preparation, to watch Devin Hester's preparation,

807
00:34:22,068 --> 00:34:24,228
Speaker 10: those are some of the players that are really on

808
00:34:24,268 --> 00:34:26,948
Speaker 10: my radar. But you look at that list and you

809
00:34:26,988 --> 00:34:29,708
Speaker 10: say to yourself, gosh, almost all of them should be

810
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Speaker 10: in the Hall