1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Look, look, look, you got a picture on a team. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: The pitcher's name tomorrow. You don't want to tell me 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: to that telling you ahead tomorrow? What time? What time 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: are you gonna tell me who's pitching? That's not pitching. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: I would take your Ronanian. One of the things he 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: suggested you wait to repair is air conditioning and the 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: heating system. And I can tell you why. That's probably 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: one of the dumbest things you can do. It's actually 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: can be life threatening in certain situations, that car Doctor. 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: If you're in the fall, or if you're in the 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: middle of winter, you can't drive a car without he 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't care where you live, except if it's southern 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Florida or southern California, Arizona. Welcome to the radio home 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor. Since this is 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in the 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: garage to orders are open. But I am here to 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight, five, five, five, six, nine 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: and nine and now he running. Oh that's our short stop. 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm always happy when it gets to be baseball season. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: Hold on and welcome run An aading the Card Doctor here. 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: It's time to start your engines. As long as they do, 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: and if they don't stick around anyway, because we'll figure 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: it out the next two hours. Eight five five five 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero again eight five five zero 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: nine zero zero is the phone number, and I am 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: here this hour as always, and they keep in mind 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: if you are podcasting this radio show, we thank you 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: for that. Please click subscribe on your player if you 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: are able to, and keep in mind that we are 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: here live in studio Saturday afternoons two to four pm 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Eastern time. And if you wish to call and talk 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: to me at A five five zero nine zero, if 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm not on the air in your neck of the woods, 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: if I'm never on the air in your neck of 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: the woods, if you're a bording, tried and true podcaster, 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: eight five five zero nine nine zero zero gets you 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: into the fourth Saturday afternoons Eastern Time, and we can 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: talk about your car and its problem. That's what this 41 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: radio show is all about. As keep in mind. Please. 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Podcasts are at Car Doctor show dot com, tune in 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: my Heart, iTunes and all the usual good places. Let's um, 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: you know, I was gonna talk to you a little 45 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: bit about Now let's not do that this right a second, 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about let me let me, 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: let me get this going, because I keep forgetting to 48 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: do this and I want to do this. We're gonna 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: give this away. I think we're gonna give this away. 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: We'll do this next week. We're gonna give away. We'll 51 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: do this next week. We're gonna give away next week, 52 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: we are going to give away a three MPPs system, 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: which is the new spray gun technology from the folks 54 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: at three m And we're going to get doing that 55 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: next week for sure. And it seems like it seems 56 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: like spring here in the studio, so we'll we'll be 57 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: thinking and talking about working on our cars even more 58 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: so next week. We've got the windows open the studio, 59 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: the suns shining coming in from the west. It's really great. Um, 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: but we'll we'll do that. Just keep in mind that 61 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: what three MS done is they've taken having a spray 62 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: gun and made it simple so you can do it 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: at home. So if you're doing repairs in the house, uh, 64 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: you know, working on the car in the garage. You 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: want to paint in the car, it's got it's got 66 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: professional technology like h v LP and they can do 67 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: touch up. You can do precision painting, and can do 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: a vertical or horizontal spray pattern. It does all those 69 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: things that a pro gun does, but at a fraction 70 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: of the court. Bring I even went away. Next week. 71 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: We'll do that next week, tom mark the mark the calendar. 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: So I want to get that going. And also a 73 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: quick car doctor shout out true story. You know every 74 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: week you guys all get me all right, Um, you 75 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: know you gotta understand what life is like. You spend 76 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: five days a week working on cars, one day a 77 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: week doing radio, and that's Sunday. You kind of collapse 78 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: and you say, is it worth it to maintain the pace? Tuesday? 79 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday, the mail comes at the shop and 80 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: there's an envelope there from Joe and the kids out 81 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: at the Community Auto College in Toledo, Ohio, and there's 82 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: a letter in there and they're talking about since you've 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: got a Monte Carlo, now you need some Monte Carlo 84 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: key rings. And they sent me a set of Monte 85 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Carlo key rings for a seventy two monty Carlo, which 86 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: we haven't gotten up from Texas yet. We're still working 87 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: on that. We will. We're trying to find transport um. 88 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you it really touched me. And 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: let's me know, you know, I see things like that 90 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: and affecting the next generation of mechanics. Guess what, guess 91 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: we'll do this another twenty five years. What do you say, Tom, 92 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: Let's just keep going and uh, let's just keep it 93 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: going and see how good we can do and try 94 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: and leave the place better than we found it. And 95 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: that's that's the motto of the car doctor. That's what 96 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: we try and do each and every day. Yeah, by 97 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: the way, if anybody is down in Menard, Texas, I'm 98 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: not exactly sure where Manard is, but if this is 99 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Houston and this is Dallas, Minard is like somewhere off 100 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: to the west and up. If you find the middle 101 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: of Texas, it's still left of nowhere. Uh is Menard, 102 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: is what they're telling me. It's a very small town 103 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: in Texas, and that's where I found my seventy two 104 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: monty carl If anybody's going by with an eighteen wheeler 105 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: stopping at the local garage, ask for John and telling 106 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: me there to pick up the car, bring it to 107 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: New Jersey. There's a car Doctor t shirt in it 108 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: for you. How do you like that? And we'll throw 109 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: you a few bucks. But that's another story for another day. 110 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: Let's keep the garage doors open. Let's get going. Let's 111 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: go talk to Mike in New Hampton, New York with 112 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: an all five Pontiac Vibe. Michael, Welcome to the Car 113 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Doctor serum in the move to fix Cars. What's going on? Good? 114 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: What do you got? Yeah, well I got I have 115 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: a Plantia Vibe two dollars of five. The check the 116 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: engine lines uh came on like somewhere in the middle 117 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: of and UH. My mechanic put a new catalytic converter 118 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: in it, uh the beginning of last year, and it 119 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: only stayed off. The light only stayed off for three days. 120 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: I had gotten it inspected, fortunately, so I didn't really 121 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: do anything about it. And then this past September, all 122 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the check engine light went off and 123 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: stayed off for probably almost a month. So I decided 124 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: to have an inspect then, so just to avoid having 125 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: any issues. And then it came back on and it's 126 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: been on since, and I just can't Well, one thing 127 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention is that when I brought the 128 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: car back after the the light came back on after 129 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: he changed the catalytic converter. He told me, now, now 130 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: it's an intake a manifold league. So I'm not sure 131 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: why it stayed off for that whole month, but it 132 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: is back on again. I don't I was just wonder 133 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: if you had any thoughts on it. Let me ask 134 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: you this, Mike, the go go back to the first 135 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: problem with the first code and the first check engine light. 136 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Was it was it a P zero four twenty? Do 137 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: you remember the code was a catalytic converter related? Yeah? 138 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: I believe it was. Yeah, Okay. Was the light on 139 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: for any length of time? Yeah? Stayed on the whole 140 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: time from the time it came on initially and it 141 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: just stayed on until well when I say it stayed 142 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: on for any length the time? Was it on for 143 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: three months before you repaired it? Was it on for 144 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: longer than that? Was it on for two days? Oh? Yeah, 145 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: it was on. It was on a long time because, 146 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: like I say, I it came on like uh probably 147 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: like uh late summer early fall, and I didn't have 148 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: the new cat until January. Okay, so it was on 149 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: four or five months. Right, Okay, You ever, um, you 150 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: ever get hurt and you go to the doctor and 151 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: he says, well, you gotta stop doing that, and you 152 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: continue to do that, and your body just reacts to 153 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: it and that problem gets worse and worse and worse, 154 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: and then other things develop over time, but you don't 155 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: find that problem out until you fix the first one. 156 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: Same thing, all right. Computers act there there's a higher 157 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: it's it's a hierarchy of code, operation, and strategy. So 158 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: it takes things from the top and works its way down. 159 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: All right. It's a very sequential way of thinking. P 160 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: zero four twenty is a pretty critical fault code in 161 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: any car. So it's gonna it's gonna continue to look 162 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: at and address its systems, alright, because the computer is 163 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: all about systems. It's like the human body. The human 164 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: body is all about systems. You know. You you get 165 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: up tomorrow morning and you've got a sore throat and 166 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 1: a running and a running nose and bleary eyes. You're sick. 167 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: But your brain has to process that and it has 168 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: to look at certain key factors to decide is he sick, 169 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: is it a tummy ache? Does his tooth? Third? Is 170 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: he gotta hangnail? What is it? All right? You don't 171 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: realize you're doing it, but you do it. That's that's 172 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: the human equation. Computers do it the same way. They 173 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: just do it as fast as the human brain, and 174 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: they're just deciding what systems are working and what aren't. 175 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: On a car computer, it decides, well, cats down, I'm 176 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: not really gonna do a lot of other testing or 177 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: data collection because I gotta keep the car going until 178 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: this guy takes it in and gets it fixed. You 179 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: have the cat done the P zero four twenty. If 180 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: that had returned, I'd think, well, we've got another issue here, 181 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: But it sounds like you're describing You've probably got a 182 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: P zero one seven one lean fuel condition bank one. Okay, 183 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: so now we're into the second fault that occurred. P 184 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: zero one seven one means that the vehicle has an 185 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: imbalance of oxygen in the air fuel mixture at the 186 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: wrong moment in the wrong times. Typically, this can be 187 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: one of two things with these cars. It can be 188 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: an underperforming mass airflow sensor, or it can be as 189 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: your mechanics says, a bad intake manifold gasket, the intake 190 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: manifold gasket will start to leak air or cause vacuum 191 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: leaks during warm up. If he were to go in 192 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: and look at freeze frame, freeze frame being the video 193 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: snapshot that the computer records when the code triggers. It 194 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: doesn't show exact conditions. It shows approximate conditions at the 195 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: moment just before the code or the fault sets. I'd 196 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: be willing to bet that if the well obvious say 197 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: it like this, If the freeze frame shows that the 198 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: fault occurs during warm up between about a hundred and 199 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: sixty and eighty degrees more closer to one sixty, maybe 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: even a little less than one sixty, Yeah, that's intake. 201 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Because usually what happens is until things expand and seal up, 202 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: the intake manifold leaks a little bit of air, creates 203 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: a vacuum leak, and allows the system to be imbalanced. 204 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: If it If it shows it happening at full warm up, 205 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: close throttle going down the road a fifty, I'm gonna 206 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: think more mass air flow. But there's an easy way 207 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: to test both, all right, and you don't need a 208 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: fancy scan tool. And here's a great example of where 209 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: I would I would force somebody because the way I 210 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: would do this is I would force somebody to use 211 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: nothing more, nothing fancier than a plain old O B 212 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: D two scan tool, just something down and dirty and basic. 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: All right. I want to go in and look at 214 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: fuel trim, and I want to go in and look 215 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: at calculated load. Calculated load is a computer generated number 216 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: that shows, uh, let's see. How can I explain it? 217 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: Breathe in with all your might, Mike, give it a 218 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: big okay, the okay, that's your calculated load. That's your 219 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: air intake, all right. If the computer can measure that, 220 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: it would decide what's Mike's intake. System able to do? 221 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: Can Mike hit a hundred percent based on stored values? 222 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: Anything over eight wide open throttle, foot to the floor, 223 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: out the headlight and you see calculated load eight or higher. 224 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: That mass air low is probably okay. There's other things 225 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: that can fail, and there's other factors to consider, but 226 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: it's probably okay. Typically we see or less on a 227 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: mass airflow failure because it can't properly report the amount 228 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: of incoming air as a matter of fact, up on 229 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: Facebook or on the car Doctor YouTube channel. Back in 230 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: June of last year, I didn't. I did a little 231 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: video talking about calculated load and mass airflow and showed 232 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: a print out using the launch CKS four one scan tool. 233 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: So that's there if you want to go back and 234 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: find it and take a look at it. So that's 235 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: that's a mass airflow potential intake leak. If the intake 236 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: is leaking, I'll get a bottle of propane. My little regulator. 237 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: I took a brake line, I pen the end shut. 238 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: I made it so that it comes to a point, 239 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: and I'll just very gently during warm up, while watching 240 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: on the scan tool, looking at the O two centsor 241 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: readings or watching fuel trim, I'll just gently with a 242 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: very light stream of propane, let it sniff around the intake. 243 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: When I see it go up for change, and I'll 244 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: actually hear the engine change. In most cases, I know 245 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: I've got an intake leak. It's actually drawing in the right. 246 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: It actually draws the propane and and the engine accounts 247 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: for it, and and and and changes the way it's running. 248 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: So not not an uncommon situation. The only other possibility 249 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: that's it's put third down on the list and it's 250 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: in the tent tile is. Every once in a while 251 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: you'll get a purge valive issue, but a purge valve 252 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: issue on these usually causes a rich running condition, not 253 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: a lean condition. It just depends on what it happens 254 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: in the system. So the real question comes back to 255 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: do you trust your mechanic. I'm not sure? Okay, Well, 256 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: and that's a problem all right, because this can't be 257 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: because unless this is properly diagnosed, it could be mass air, 258 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: it could be intake, and you can't take a chance 259 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: on on on just what if, because it gets to 260 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: be too expensive. But I mean, I know that it 261 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: definitely does run rough when it's really cold, until it 262 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: warns up and right it runs really well. Then my 263 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: question is why did it stay off for that length 264 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: of time. If if there was a clinic issue, why 265 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: would the light stay offer almost the whole month? Because 266 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: it depends on the temperature, It depends on the conditions 267 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: and how and when it ran its monitor. You know, 268 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's sort of like you when you're getting sick, 269 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: and as the weather changes, your body reacts differently. So 270 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: does the car monitors monitors in the way the computer 271 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: runs its test is all dependent upon condition and how 272 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: you're driving the vehicle and a bunch of other factors. 273 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: And until you get the check engine light on this 274 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: vehicle to stay out longer than a week and no 275 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: other vault codes coming back, so you know all the 276 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: systems are working properly, you won't have that answer, all right, sir, 277 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: I gotta go, Mikey. I'm up against the clock, and 278 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. If you need anything else, you 279 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: know where to find me. Good luck to you and 280 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: your mechanic zero nine zero. We're coming back right after this. Hey, 281 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: welcome back right in the end of the car Ocurate 282 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: five zero. Let's get over to the phone. Let's go 283 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: talk to Camille and chester Town, Maryland, and let's see 284 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: what's going on with five cris receivering Camille. Welcome to 285 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? Hi? Thank you 286 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: so much for taking my call. I've just gone to 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: nine miles and I was reading my maintenance book and 288 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: it's said to have the timing belt replaced well. And 289 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: when I did more investigation, I have a two point 290 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: seven leader engine and that when my mechanic told me 291 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: that that should that doesn't have a timing belt, that 292 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: it has the timing chain. Uh, and my mechanic also 293 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: told me that they very seldom break, but that they 294 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: would continue to monitor my belts and stuff when they 295 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: do my oil change, which I do about every three 296 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: thousand miles. Now my question is does the timing belt 297 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: is timing chain? Is that known to break or what? No? 298 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: The chains themselves think of a bicycle chain. It'sprockets Camille. Yeah, 299 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty much the same thing on this particular engine. 300 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: They're not known to break. Of course, keeping the oil 301 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: change on a regular basis really puts the odds in 302 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: your favor that you won't have any problems, So keep 303 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: doing that. The bigger problem with the two seven v 304 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: six is sludge. But it's it sounds like you've got 305 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: a smart mechanic and that he's staying on top of 306 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: the oil change and doing that helps keep the sledge 307 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: factor to a minimum and should avoid the problem altogether. 308 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: Where where are you going to start to get into 309 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: doing a timing chain or maybe some timing chain components. 310 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Is at some point this may need a water pump, 311 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: and I believe the water pump is driven off the 312 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: timing chain on this particular engine. So when you get 313 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: into it that deep, at that point you start to 314 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: look at timing chain components. You just sort of wait 315 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: for the water pump issue and deal with it. Then 316 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: you know if it's if it's worth fixing at that stage. Okay, 317 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: Now the mechanic and I do have confidence in him, 318 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: he should be able to determine if the water pump 319 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: has gone or will my car stop? I'm very challenged. 320 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no no no. Think 321 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: of it like this, um um, you have a washing machine? Okay, 322 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: you ever have you ever have the seals on the 323 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: on the main drum leak? Right? How did how did you? 324 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: How did you know the drum was leaking? I thought right, 325 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: there was water on the floor. Right. So you'll know 326 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: when the water pumps leaking because you'll see drips and 327 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: drops on the driveway in the garage. Same thing. Okay, 328 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: now now, now, a water pump can also fail. A 329 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: washing machine drum can also fail because the bearing, the 330 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: piece that supports it gets noisy. But you'll hear it. 331 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: You'll hear it like you heard it in the washing machine. 332 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: You'll hear it in the water pump. Okay, I really 333 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. You're very welcome. You're very welcome. See. 334 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Now that's a great call. All right. I think we're 335 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: gonna start to do with Donald Trump thing. Okay, good call, 336 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: bad call, like you did at the press conference. Good question, 337 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: bad question. That's what we should have. A good question, 338 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: bad question difference. Although I'm not gonna tell anybody that 339 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: they're like the BBC and CNN almost made up news media, 340 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: because we don't want to go there. That's not um, 341 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: that's not what this radio show is about. Let's go 342 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: over and talk to Doug new Rochelle New York ninety seven. 343 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Chevy and I think this is a return called Doug. 344 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: Did we talk last week? Do I remember a couple 345 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: of weeks ago? How how are you? What's going on? 346 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: You know? The funny thing is I'm at work right now, 347 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: so I can't we call the cold one. But anyways, 348 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: I told you I had the injectives done and there 349 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: was a problem and they rebad him again. So now 350 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: it cost seems to be running fine. But the checked 351 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: antelights have attention like keeps coming back on. So we 352 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: said it was one, he told me one of the 353 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: old two centers. I've replaced it. So the thing stayed 354 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: off for about two weeks. Now we popped back on again, 355 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: so I put my uh in my cold testle on it. 356 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: You know, it's got a general code and I just 357 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: can't remember fuel asked something I just can't do. Well. 358 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: Here's so, here's the here's the question. If is it 359 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: a note to centsor performance code? Is it a no 360 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: to centsor heaters jerk it? Or is it a lean 361 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: or rich air fuel mixture fault? I think it was 362 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: lean air riich. I sent Tom the cold when I 363 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: when I sent him my questions whatever from he actually 364 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: has it. Okay, all right, we'll tell you what. Stay tight, 365 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: Sit tight, and let me let me go talk to 366 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: Tom and see if he has anything in his vast 367 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: arsenal of notes, which he probably doesn't. Tom still writing 368 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: with crayon, so I have to get him off that 369 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: and get him into the twenty first century. So we'll 370 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: see what he's got. But you stay put right where 371 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: you are. I'm on a nating the card octorate five 372 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: nine zero is the number. Zero is the number. Don't 373 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: forget the extra zero, folks, and I'll return right after this. 374 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: Stay put, Welcome back the card Octorate five N number. 375 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Give us a call Saturday afternoons to the four pm 376 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Eastern time and we'll be here to answer your question. 377 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: If you're podcasting this radio show, and don't forget to 378 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: click subscribe on your podcast. Okay, back to the calls, 379 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: so you're still there, sir. Okay. Tom informs me that 380 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: you told him you had a pas in Peter eleven 381 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: thirty three. Is that correct? That sounds familiar, right? So 382 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: in eleven eleven thirty three is bank one censor one 383 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: O two censor adaptive or operational range, Meaning it's not 384 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: seeing a correct swing or you know, it's not seeing 385 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: high to lows. It's uh, it's it's it's stuck leaner, 386 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's questioning performance the cars compared to today, 387 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: we're a little bit remedial. It was like it was 388 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: like remedial math and um, you know it's it's not 389 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: as it's not as clear cut and um they didn't 390 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: test them to the level that they tested on a 391 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: modern vehicle. So anyway, so the questions I've got are 392 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: you had done injectors there are two upstream oh twos. 393 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: There's a bank one oh two in a bank to 394 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: oh two. Correct on this VIEO, Okay, you did the 395 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: bank too. I think you're supposed to do the bank 396 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: I think you're looking to do the bank one. I 397 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: think he did. I think you did the wrong O 398 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: two even thirty three references bank one censor one. It's 399 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: not switching correctly. Okay. And what you can try is 400 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: Bank one and bank too should be interchangeable. I believe 401 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: they are the same. And while I wouldn't do this 402 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: in the shop, I would actually have the ability to 403 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: test it and go through a series of things using 404 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: propane and some of the other things. But I believe 405 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: the sensors are the same side to side. If you 406 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: want get out to let's see where can I send you? 407 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: Get out to O rileyoto dot com. Go out to 408 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: Riley dot com. You can look up the vehicle. They'll 409 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: give you an application guide there O'Riley odo dot com 410 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: and you can you know, Chevy and you know tell 411 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: them you want uh oh two sensors upstream or you 412 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: know bank one, bank to upstream oxygen centers before the 413 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: cat and I bet you it's the same part number 414 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: and if it is, swamp them. If the problem follows 415 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: the censor. If you now set I think the code 416 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: you're going to get as an eleven thirty five, it 417 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: will be different from the eleven thirty three if it 418 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: follows the sensor. You know it's a sensor. Okay. If 419 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: you still if you still get an eleven thirty three, 420 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to get down and dirty with 421 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: the scan tool and look to see what the two 422 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: censor swing ranges are and you know, actually get into 423 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: measuring its performance. And that's a separate conversation on a 424 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: different day. Yeah, okay, alright, you're very welcome, sir. I 425 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Thank you, very welcome. You have a good 426 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: rest of the day. Let's go and talk to Rodney 427 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: in Michigan or three Pontiac Bonneville and see what's going on. Rodney. 428 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? Well, Uh, 429 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: first time caller. I just wanted to touch base I'm 430 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: having after having driven through one of them what I 431 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: like to call basements here in Michigan during the wintertime. 432 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: I had so hard, had my wheel bearing the lower 433 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: ball joint and my strut on the right hand side 434 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: blow out. Uh. And I replaced the wheel bearing, the 435 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: flour ball joints and the full full outocks fall out, 436 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: Rodney like parts fell off the car fall out. Well, no, 437 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: they as I dropped through right as when I dropped 438 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: into this, into this pot hole, it actually damaged the 439 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: wheel bearing. And then everything was as far as blowing 440 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: it out started. Shots started leaking, started leaking, and the 441 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: ball joint was not smoothly. You know, You're feelings were rattled. Okay, 442 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: I got you. So where are we at now? So? 443 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: So I replaced everything and basically when I replaced the 444 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: struts and the shots, the front end of the car 445 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: raised up about two and a quarter inches. And as 446 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: I started, as I drive it now, when I make 447 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: a hard rate turn or left turn, uh, it sounds 448 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: like the CV joints are grinding. Did you use a 449 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: loaded strut, quick stru quick strut? Yeah, you know it. 450 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: And this is why I won't use a quick strut. 451 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: And maybe that's your answer, all right. One of the 452 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: reasons I won't use a quick strut in this application 453 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: is because if you were to look up coil springs 454 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: for the front of that vehicle, from GM. There's probably 455 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: no less than four or five specific applications. You know. 456 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: G M offered just a variety of tuning packages and 457 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: suspension packages, and I could never understand how they can 458 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: sell a quick strut that covers them all. It doesn't 459 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: make sense to me. Now, I've got to tell you, Okay, 460 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: the argument can be made different spring rate, but the 461 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: car should still sit level. Then why does the car 462 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: I sit two in a quarter inches higher? Either something 463 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: has been assembled wrong or you've got the wrong part 464 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: in the vehicle if it's not the way it is, 465 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: because you're right, two and a quarter inches is excessive 466 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: and you you could be hurting the CV joints. There's 467 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: gotta be a better answer than that either that of 468 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: the strut guys are in cahoots with the axle manufacturers 469 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: and they're trying to sell more axles, which you know, Hey, listen, 470 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: I want to put anything past anybody today. Um, and 471 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm only kidding, really, um, you know, can 472 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: you go back and verify the part application and then 473 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: whoever the manufacturer is, give them a call and say, hey, 474 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: how come the car sitting too in a quarter inches high? 475 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: You know? Is that where it's supposed to be. I'm sure, 476 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure it's gonna settle and come down 477 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: over time. But two and a quarter inches, that's that's 478 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: quite a bit. A quarter inch, half inch, three quarters 479 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: of it, right, you know. But if you're telling me 480 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: the car looks like a speedboat now that the up 481 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: the front is up and the back is down. That 482 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: that sounds wrong. Yeah, that's that's exactly what it is. Yeah, 483 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: that that that sounds wrong. That's it looks like a 484 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: speedboat on Lake Michigan. I don't think so. Uh, you know, 485 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: something has either assembled wrong or there's a there's a 486 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: there's a there's an incorrect part in this vehicle somewhere. 487 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: All right. So that's what I got for you, kid him, Okay, 488 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: well checking around, Okay, you let me know what happens, Rodney, 489 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just out of curiosity, where did 490 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: you get the struts from? I got them from. Yeah, 491 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: go back and talk to the guys that O'reiley's. They 492 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: stand behind it. They're a good bunch of guys. You know. 493 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: It's it's real easy. Anything could be looked up wrong. 494 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: Don't be afraid to say it. I know o'reiley is 495 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: a sponsor of this show. But you know what, we 496 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: we hold them to a standard like they hold us 497 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: like you know, it's back and forth, and they're good. 498 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: They're good for what they do. They really are. They'll 499 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: make it right. Okay, So um, you'll let us know 500 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: what happens and we look forward to hearing from you. 501 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: All right, you're very welcome. Rodney eight five five zero 502 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Let's pull over and take a pause. 503 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm running anating the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Hey, 504 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: welcome back, Run the Car Doctor. Five zero nine zero. 505 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Derek in Texas wait 506 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: for an expedition. Derek, let's ask the important question first. 507 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: You're ready, what part of Texas? Friends Wood down closer 508 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: towards Galveston, So you're not near Minard Huh Okay, I couldn't. 509 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't twist your army to take a little ride. 510 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: It's probably just around the corner. How big could Texas Bay? 511 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: You can put a trailer on the back of that 512 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: expedition and just you know, if I could get the 513 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: car to Houston, I've I've got the problem solved. But anyway, 514 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: so what can I do for you today? Okay? So 515 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: my wife car when we got it, we noticed it 516 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: probably a week at we bought it. You when you 517 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: go to take off and coming in and out of year, 518 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: the transmission kind of does like a little kick. So 519 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: it's all right, it's a heart, it's a hard it's 520 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: a hard up shift, so it's it's a it's a 521 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: it's a shot in the seat of your pants shifting 522 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: from first to second or on the down shift into first, 523 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: both both. Okay, So it's a hard shift in and 524 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: out of first gear. Yeah, all right, all the time, 525 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: every time. Yeah. Any dashboard warning lights on? No, nothing, okay, 526 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: anybody attempt to diagnose this. No, And that's the thing 527 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: I I looked up online and several people with the 528 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: same year make a model that they've experienced the same thing, 529 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: and board issued uh A service warning out to people 530 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: on a contact of board. They said, my vehicle doesn't 531 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: fall into that category. Right. There's a bulletin out there 532 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: that they talk about problems with the mechatronic or the 533 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: valve body assembly being at fault. There's also a bolt 534 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: in that talks about issue is with the control balls 535 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: in the valve body there's also more than a few 536 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: bulletins out there that talk about re flashing the trans 537 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: control module, changing the levels you know, most current calibration 538 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: for this particular problem, and other issues too. So you know, 539 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: I think where this has to start is with the 540 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: diagnosis of some sort and determine is this something that 541 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: can be repaired by itself or is it going to 542 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: require transmission tear down, at which case, depending upon the 543 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: mileage you might be getting into, you know, overhauling the 544 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: trans how many miles are on the truck. Okay, so 545 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, it could be getting to that stage of 546 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: transmission overhaul, but it could also just be something else. 547 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: You gotta do a diagnosis. And also also keep in mind, 548 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: just because there's no dashboard warning lights on yet, it 549 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: doesn't mean there isn't you know. It's like you could wait, 550 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: and I don't wish this upon you, my friend, but 551 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: you could wake up tomorrow with a head cold, but 552 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: you feel fine today until you until you get up 553 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: in the morning and your computer picks up. You know, gee, 554 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: how do I feel well? Then you'll know, uh, you know, 555 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: and that's and that then you'll turn on your check 556 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: engine light and so will the trans so had to 557 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: get it checked out. But the other thing that's doing, 558 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: I've had it checked out, and to do it to break. 559 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Like my wife was trying to slow down the other day, 560 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: as she said, it felt like the brake failed on 561 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: her and started making this real bad grinding noise. Well, 562 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: it actually happened to me last week when I was 563 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: driving it. And I think the grinding noise she's talking 564 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: about is actually I could fill it in the pedal idea. 565 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean you could hear it, but it almost felt 566 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: like there was just like air pockets in the pedal 567 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: and it was like surgy. And that's why, like you ever, ever, 568 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: you ever get a vehicle into an A B S event, 569 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: Derek no Um, Take the car out somewhere, find a 570 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: slick road and nobody else is around, and and do 571 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: ten miles an hour and then step on the break 572 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: or do fifty mile an hour and step on the 573 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: brake hard and and and and you'll feel And I'm 574 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: just doing this for the sake of educating you what 575 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: what an A B S event feels like you you'll 576 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: feel the pedal but it just it's just starts to vibrate. 577 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: It feels like the funhouse floor at the at the 578 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: summer carnival. All right, and if if that's the case, 579 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: what you're describing to me with the brakes, what your 580 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: wife and what you're going through is it sounds like 581 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: you've got a false A B S event happening. In 582 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: other words, you were hurt. Right, You're approaching a stop 583 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: sign and it it it thinks one of the wheels 584 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: is approaching lock up, because what what what puts a 585 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: vehicle into an A B S event? It sees one 586 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: wheel moving at a slower rate than the others, so 587 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: it assumes it's approaching lock up for one reason or another, 588 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: and it starts to pulse the brakes to prevent you 589 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: from locking up the wheel and skidding anti lock breaks. 590 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: That's what the name implies. So that being said, you've 591 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: probably got a faulty sensor tone ring something along those 592 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: lines would not be completely uncommon, all right, Now, it's possible, 593 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: and I've seen this in some cases where faults within 594 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: the A B S are affecting trans operation too. If 595 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: it turns out that it's the if this has a 596 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: differential speed sensor and that's an input for trans information, 597 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: you know what, if it's think about it. If it's 598 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: screwing up the brakes at less than ten miles an hour, 599 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: when does the trans shift in in and out of 600 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: first eight? So the two could be related. So when 601 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: you take it in for diagnosis, make sure you inform 602 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: that I've got this going on and I've got that 603 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: going on, and they've got to be a little bit 604 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: of Columbo here. They've got to try and tie the 605 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: two wins together, all right, kiddo, So do that and 606 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: give us a call back if you need more. We're 607 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: here and we appreciate we appreciate you being there. Thanks 608 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: a lot there, A good luck zero nine zero zero 609 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: the car doctors coming back right after this. Hey, welcome 610 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: back Needing the car doctor here. Let's let's finish up 611 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: this hour. Let's get over and talk to Steve in 612 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and see what's going on here. How going good? Steve? 613 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: What can I do for you? Sir? I've got a 614 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: two thousand three g M C c R. And about 615 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: two months ago I my check engine light came on. 616 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: So I I've got a tool scand tool and I 617 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: put it on there and and it's the P one 618 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: seven one uh lean and bank one one seven four 619 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: Lena bank four or bank to right. So the first 620 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: thing I did is is I just I just cleaned 621 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: my my mass air flow since I think making thinking 622 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: maybe it was dirty and that didn't the code came back, 623 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: so I've replaced it and he still got it. So no, 624 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I've either got a intake fanifold leak, or 625 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: my O two censors are shot. So let's let's let's 626 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: talk about this. The scan tool you have does it 627 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: because it gives you the ability to go in and 628 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: look at freeze frame. Do you know what freeze frame is? Yes, 629 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: it does, but I've never done it. Okay, so freeze frame. 630 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: Freeze frame is when when the problem is about to happen, 631 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: the engine controller the PCM, takes a video snapshot. It says, hey, 632 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Steve's gonna want to come and look 633 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: at this. We'll give them some more information. It's it's 634 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: helping you play detective. So if you go look at 635 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: freeze frame, it may not show you specific components related 636 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: to the fault code. For example, if it had an 637 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: O two cents or fault like an eleven thirty five 638 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: heat or circuit performance, it may not necessarily show you 639 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: current flow or censor operation. But it may show you 640 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: things like cooling temp and engine speed and vehicle speed 641 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: and intakes intake temp. Because that so it is a 642 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: it is a snapshot. I always think five seconds before 643 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: the problem happened, or a rough approximation of what you 644 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: were headed into. All right, think of rough seas. The 645 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: seas always start to swell before it becomes a storm. 646 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: It's showing you the swells, all right. So that being said, alright, 647 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: one S four is a problem common to both banks. 648 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: So you're correct and looking at the mass air um 649 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: you weren't really correct in changing it. Because here's the 650 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: simple test. You're ready, go look at go look at 651 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: your scan tool. Does it give you calculated load? Calculated 652 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: load is a number that the computer stores based on 653 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: its programming as far as what the engine's ability is 654 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: to ingest air and how the mass airflow center is 655 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: reporting it, typically on a good mass airflow sensor. You 656 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: take it out and find a find a good spot 657 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: in the road. You'll see from you know, from a 658 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: thirty five forty mile kick, you put your foot in 659 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: the headlight, you'll see that mass airflow calculated load value 660 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,479 Speaker 1: go up over typically you can hit make sure there's 661 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: no make sure you're out in the way, way wide 662 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: open when you do this, all right, because it'll it'll 663 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: take off. So that being said, yeah, I would. I 664 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: would set myself up with a bottle of propane and 665 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: a brake line and you know, do a little hunting 666 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,479 Speaker 1: around looking to do a little propane enrichment. I would 667 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: be looking for intake manifold gaskets. They changed color on them. 668 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: I think the new ones are green and the old 669 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: ones are orange, or it's vice a versa. It's been 670 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: a while since I've done it, but you've probably got 671 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: leaking intake manifold gaskets. Sniffing around with propane or some 672 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: other fuel enrichment while looking at the O two censor 673 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: performance will tell you if the censors are working correctly. 674 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Little propane, you should see those O two hit well 675 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: over eight hundred milli volts and then you'll know what 676 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: to do with what you gotta go from there, Steve, 677 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: if you need more help, you can get a call 678 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: back next week. Till then, I'm Rondinady in the car doctors. 679 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, tip placeless