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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, you grow up here, you know,

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Speaker 2: And I have a song years ago, songs called Darkie,

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Speaker 2: This is Becca Ramos, Please tell him about yourself. What's

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Speaker 4: Well, and it's funny because I was actually was born

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Speaker 1: But I am.

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Speaker 4: A Texas Reecan now New Eurekan. I am producer here

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Speaker 4: at iHeart. I work across Lost Cultusa's the big many Players, Slate.

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Speaker 1: I work on a lot of the shows.

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Speaker 4: But now I just launched my own show called Welcome

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Speaker 4: to a Bosco and it's a podcast about put Ricco

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Speaker 4: It's a show that I really needed growing up, because

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Speaker 4: And I just was thinking, there's no way I'm the

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Speaker 1: And obviously, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Have buddies on a you know, global worlds record smashing run,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's good, and that's exactly what I wanted

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Speaker 2: So like from the shopkeeper to your principal, to the

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Speaker 2: One thing I love about Puerto Ricans is within minutes,

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Speaker 3: Are you from Panama?

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Speaker 1: Well you know on all things I got I.

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Speaker 3: Tell you about to show me right now.

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Speaker 1: I gotta have a culture right here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, culture listen. It is never a question.

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Speaker 2: So how I want to run this is like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: because like you said, you know, bad Bunny is I

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't start at top dog. You have

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Reggaton is such a New York story as well.

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Speaker 4: Figuring this out in the past few years, but like

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Speaker 2: that that tradition of like honor and the ogs. Again,

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Speaker 3: The only thing I can compare it to is like,

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Speaker 2: Stupid, but like it was President Obama's inauguration, you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this man is the president. You know? Like that

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Speaker 2: And I also think there was something about being about

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, and that was kind

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Speaker 3: You feel me? Were you were you? Yeah? Were you

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Speaker 4: I was a little bit I feel like my real

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Speaker 4: From the beginning because I feel like, for sure, the

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Speaker 4: I listened to a lot of Marc Anthony growing up,

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Speaker 4: Like a super fan until like probably twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Where yeah, when he started like when he really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, the yeah. I think that, like, no,

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Speaker 2: when they when they get on, they disappear, ye or

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Speaker 3: I what I.

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Speaker 2: Noticed about about him by the time I got put

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Speaker 3: Like why him?

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Speaker 2: And not Jay Baldwin, Oh Sula, like all these other

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Speaker 2: I thought one thing I noticed was like he was.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean? He was kind of like even

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Speaker 4: I think what makes him stand out and why he

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Speaker 3: It's exactly why it's him.

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Speaker 4: And that is I think been evident throughout his whole career,

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Speaker 4: And obviously that wasn't as highlighted in his other albums,

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Speaker 4: to be more palatable.

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Speaker 3: Word. I completely agree.

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Speaker 2: I think that there's the one of the things that

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Speaker 2: like writing that's lost, you know what I mean. When

435
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: you're trying to say that, yeah, trying to translate it

436
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: because like everybody I know that's like a native Spanish speaker,

437
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: they're like, I don't like their English stuff. That's the

438
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: first thing you say, is like I don't like the

439
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: English stuff. And it's because you lose the depth, you know.

440
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I think, uh, producer Ian talked about

441
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: his his mixing of like trap music, you know, in

442
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: in into his ride ock Thne is what really put

443
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: him on the map, I think for the rest of us.

444
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: Too, because time that trap was like really.

445
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 3: Popping over the world. Yeah, so he.

446
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: Was like I am not gonna be left behind, Like

447
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna involve with it. And I think

448
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: also in his evolution with his music, which is why

449
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: I think this album was so good on a sonic

450
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: level outside of like the messaging and the art he created.

451
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 4: I'm like he took all of these like really old

452
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: salsa songs we all grew up on and like remixed

453
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 4: it and like that hadn't been done before in reggaeton,

454
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 4: you know, like it's always been ratchet, it's always been

455
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: its own thing, and he like created this new like

456
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 4: every album he's created like a new type of reggaeton,

457
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 4: which has been beautiful.

458
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 3: Man.

459
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, which kind of brings me to my next thing,

460
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: which is what you talked about, is like why this

461
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 2: record is so special. My homeboy Alex Medina he he

462
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: had brought up a point with this new album or

463
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: with this this his newest record that like the evolution

464
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: of who he was as an who is as an artist,

465
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: Like this was a very it's still him, but it's

466
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: very mature. He was like, this is what we wished

467
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 2: Drake would have done, Like we wish he would have grown,

468
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: yes and matured, like like bad Bunny grew up, like

469
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: he grew up until he's.

470
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: Thirty in this album.

471
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: Yes, you're like you not talking about like you know

472
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: what the factor functionine like my Niggott like go raise

473
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: your child?

474
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Are you still talking about this?

475
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

476
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

477
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: So like it started being like now it's kind of

478
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: sad you still talking about going out to the club.

479
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Grow up man, you know

480
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So like, but he did it, and

481
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: he did it in a way.

482
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: That it's like the still bangs, it's still the culture,

483
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: it's still dope, it's still turn up.

484
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: But it's like, but like you said, the respect and

485
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: the homage.

486
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 2: To the people before you, I felt like down to that,

487
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: like just down to the album artwork, like who Ain't

488
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: set in that chair?

489
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

490
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, oh enough again being around the

491
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: culture enough to know that, Like okay that I know

492
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: that chair. You know what I'm saying. I don't have

493
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: like that's not my grandma's house, you feel me, But

494
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: like I know that that's your grandma's house, you know

495
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I know that, Like damn that

496
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: really I really hit wh Yeah it.

497
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: Would be such a beautiful it is so like and

498
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: my Spanish isn't great, like him engine at the top,

499
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: but I you can just feel it like on a

500
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: cellular level, like your ancestors and your culture just like

501
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: coming through you when you listen to it. It's such

502
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: a beautiful feeling. And I felt that when I went

503
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 4: to the show because I privilege.

504
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the privilege of.

505
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: Going my friend who was like she put me on

506
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: a Bad Bunny like back in twenty fifty Joy sixty.

507
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: She was the one who was like, big Stand.

508
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 4: She's South Asian, but she's a big bad Bunny stand

509
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 4: from the OG days.

510
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: And she was like, I can't go. I have four tickets.

511
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: Do you want them? And I was like.

512
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so she said, I'm gonna sell them to

513
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: you before I'd sell them to anybody else, obviously, because

514
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 4: I had a kind of pick.

515
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: Between Beyonce and Bad Bunny.

516
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh.

517
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: I had picked Beyonce first because the tickets came out

518
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 4: on side first. No, So I get the tickets and

519
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 4: I take my mom and my boyfriend is Peruvian, so

520
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: he huge fan of the album, and the three of

521
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 4: us went and it was just like such a beautiful experience.

522
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: Even though we were in the nosebleeds. You could just

523
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 4: feel the whole room. It was just such a cultural phenomenon.

524
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 4: I had never and I don't think I will ever

525
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: go to a concert like that. Like it just it

526
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 4: was it seems spiritual.

527
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was.

528
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: It seems spiritual, like you know, I mean, my wife

529
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: is saving up, like she's like I'm going. Yeah, she's

530
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: she she's got a trip to Ireland coming up in June,

531
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: and she's like, he's gonna be in Spain. She's like,

532
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: I'm I'm flying to Spain. I'm gonna go do it.

533
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, do it? Yeah, like it what

534
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: do we work for? Yeah? What do you work for?

535
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 5: You know?

536
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: It's like go enjoy this, yeah, you know.

537
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: And then my my youngest daughter was like my youngerest

538
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: daughter was like, oh, you're gonna go see You're gonna

539
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: go see your other husband.

540
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

541
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Snow down baby, And my even my wife was like, oh,

542
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: maybe maybe my novio, but not like my husband.

543
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: I was like hold on, wait, hold up, like time out.

544
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: I know, I can't, you know, am I doing it right?

545
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: I was kidding.

546
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: The memes that I saw the couple that got married

547
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl that were like bold of her to

548
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 4: do that in front of bad Bunny because like there

549
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: could have been a chance.

550
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: Girl. Yeah, that's so funny. Man, Yeah, that's that's a

551
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: good looking man. Ain't oother way around it.

552
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: That's true. And are you know the one thing there

553
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: are beautiful?

554
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: That is y'all make an island. Y'all got an island

555
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: of beautiful people. It's the craziest thing because it's real.

556
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Like we used to, uh, oh, man, what did we

557
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: I had a homeboy? I don't I was about to

558
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: say his whole government name, but his last name was goorgeous.

559
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: And we used to call them gorgeous borgeous because it's

560
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: just like, oh, like, man, why is your skin perfect?

561
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: Are you on? Y'all too?

562
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: Like?

563
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: Y'all too pretty? Like?

564
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: And and the hard part to me is like, you know,

565
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: like he was from so he's from Chicago, so like

566
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: you know, eat from like Garfield Park, like that Puerto

567
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: Rican area over there. So I was just, yeah, you

568
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: know what all the like Latin kings and stuff like that,

569
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: I be like, man, for some murderers, y'all, some really

570
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: beautiful beautiful men, Like I'm uncomfortable right now as to

571
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: how gorgeous you are. I know you're gonna rob me,

572
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: but like, damn okay, so let's get to the actual

573
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: super Bowl. I have a list of things that I caught,

574
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: and what I want to hear from you is what

575
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: did I miss that you know? And and or or

576
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: maybe I don't even understand the depths of it, but

577
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: I saw it and I was like, oh, that's a thing.

578
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: So the first thing I saw was the black people

579
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 2: working the sugarcane. Of course is the first thing I'm

580
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: gonna call. So then big old fields of grass was

581
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: like that sugarcane. That's how the slave trade got there.

582
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: Black people Africans were brought to the island to pick sugarcanes.

583
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: So I was like, off top, he's honoring the blackness.

584
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like ten out of ten already.

585
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: Anyone who is uh I mean part of any diaspora

586
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: of people that wash their legs and clean their chicken.

587
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: Anybody who seasons their chicken has slept on a chair

588
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: at a wedding, So like I was like, oh, Sam,

589
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: that's little thing was so important to me. Uh So

590
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: the kids sleeping on the chair vs. Tacos like which

591
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: is out here in La I was like oh.

592
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 6: We all were like, oh, I had a lot of

593
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 6: beautiful Mexican Puerto Rican symbolism, which I think was really

594
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 6: like making a point that it wasn't just about Puerto Rico,

595
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 6: but it was him being like fuck Ice, which was

596
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 6: really amazing.

597
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: Yes, obviously Ricky Martin, Yeah, of course, yeah, obviously Ricky

598
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: Martin the power grid issues.

599
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm a politics pod. So I was just like he

600
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: even put the power grid on the yup. Oh shit.

601
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: Looking into the house and seeing I was wondering. I

602
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: was like looking at her everybody's face to be like, Okay,

603
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: who do I see? You know, Jessica Alba, who, like

604
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: as much as as much as the media don't want

605
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: to admit that she's a Latina.

606
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, I know, like, oh my god, I'm Mexican

607
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: and you're like whoa.

608
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: She's like no, why do y'all keep acting like like

609
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm Mexican? Like, yeah, so her obviously Pedro Pascal, Carol

610
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: g Carti, Carti, what's the other little younger?

611
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: I forget the young girl.

612
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: Miko, young Nico, and obviously the football symbolism and stuff

613
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: like that, but like the Grammy the kid who I

614
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: got totally wrong. I thought that was I thought that

615
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: was Liam. I apologize.

616
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people did, and he is

617
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: a very cute kid.

618
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: But I do think it was supposed to be an

619
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: allusion to him and this photo that he loves to

620
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: use and has used in promotion of this album of

621
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: him as a child, because he has a picture of

622
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 4: him in like a striped shirt, I think holding like

623
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: up at Agua or something growing up, and I think

624
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: that was supposed to be like a nod to like, like, wow,

625
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: look at you, this little kid from you know, Boringen

626
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: now on this stage, on the biggest.

627
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: Stage for sure.

628
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: And then the last one that I noticed was the

629
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: Pattiagua stand of just like man, I like, there are

630
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: certain places when I have friends come come from out

631
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: of town that there are certain places that I'm not

632
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: gonna take them because I'm like, I just don't want

633
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: the prices to go up, so like I'm not I

634
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: can't have you gentrify this area, so I'm not gonna

635
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: bring you, right. But then there's other places around my

636
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: way that I'm like, I don't know how to describe

637
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: the taste of what you're about to experience right now,

638
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: Like you know, what I'm saying. So I'm like, but

639
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: I need you to experience it the way that you're

640
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: supposed to experience it, which is like on the corner

641
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: of Soto and Fourth. I'm saying, you have to go

642
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: to the street corner, you have to go to this lady.

643
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: You have to taste it like this. So I think that, like,

644
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: those are the things that I specifically noticed. Now what

645
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: did we miss?

646
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: Okay, So to go back to the sugar cane. So

647
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: this is very specific because Puerto Ricans were I mean

648
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: a part of their slavery within the United I mean

649
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: a they were the last stop of the slave trade,

650
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: like one of the last stops that stopped slavery. So

651
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: that is why there is a huge Afro community in

652
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico like in our DNA, because of the slave trade.

653
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: And a part of that slave trade was sugar cane.

654
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: Sugarcane was an This is from Rolling Stones's breakdown of

655
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: the Halftime Show by Vanessa Diaz and Petra Rivera Rideo.

656
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: The sugarcane is from the nineteen hundreds. It was a

657
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: huge like economic community, like people were sugarcane farmers. People

658
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: were imported to New York to work in the sugarcane

659
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: factories of the Domino Factory in Brooklyn. So, sugar cane

660
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: is a huge part of the Puerto Rican identity. Enslaved

661
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: Africans worked the sugar plantains until eighteen seventy three when

662
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico under Spanish colonial.

663
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: Rule and it's slavery.

664
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: After the US took over in eighteen ninety eight, US

665
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: sugarcane companies gobbled up perto Rican lands while reaping in

666
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 4: Norman's profits of a perto Rican labor and land. So

667
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: sugar cane is a huge part of Puerto Rican identity.

668
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: So that's the first one you named, Piraguas for sure.

669
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: The casita obviously, I think that's been a huge part

670
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: of his show in general, Like if you went to the.

671
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: Residency, he built the casita.

672
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: The casita is just a representation of many of the

673
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: houses that you find in Puerto Rico.

674
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: They're all colorful, they're all beautiful.

675
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: You know, they're all remnants of your you know, aulita,

676
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: your tpies like living rooms. So you know, there was

677
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: like a little nod there and then El Moro, Oh

678
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 4: my god, the wedding. So the wedding happens at El

679
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: Moro and that is a pretty I mean a it

680
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: is a huge national symbol of Puerto Rico.

681
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's on the license plates.

682
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: It's you know, I think being added as a national park.

683
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, it's a historical monument.

684
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: It is like you go to San Juan in Valha,

685
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: San Juan and there is like El Moro. It's a

686
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 4: giant park. It's beautiful. But a lot of weddings happen there.

687
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: So it was kind of beautiful to see that. Like

688
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: they chose to make the wedding at Elmro because that

689
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 4: is like a thing like you go to peric on

690
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: the summer and like people are having their wedding happen.

691
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 4: But yeah, so Almorro, I feel like that was huge.

692
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: So Tonita's is a bar or like Caribbean social club

693
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 4: here in New York. It's in Brooklyn and it is

694
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 4: very It's become very famous because Bat Bunny kind of

695
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: like Putnita on the map during.

696
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: His photos era last year, but he brought her back.

697
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: He like was there.

698
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 4: And if you are if you are Borrico in New

699
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: York and you have him be in, you have to go.

700
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: But she's always there, Like you go and it's like

701
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 4: it's like going to your grandmother's house. Like it is

702
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: literally just like a Caribbean social club. There's a pool table,

703
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: there's dominoes happening, there's always.

704
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: Food like like like catering, like like just like and

705
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: and like likes and just like all the fixings.

706
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: You go to the back, it's a cash bar and

707
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: Tonza's just hanging out. Everyone's just hanging out. It just

708
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: feels like you're going to your family's house. So that

709
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: was a huge Partita. I feel like when it got

710
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: to like the New York part of the set, like

711
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 4: they put Marquetta, they did all the like like the

712
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: true Pereo and Pereo.

713
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Is very very specific, not a work.

714
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 4: And then you highlighted the electric electric polls to give

715
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: a little bit more detail on that Puerto Rico's whole

716
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 4: electric grid is privatized, kind of like remember the great

717
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: like freeze that happened in twenty two twenty twight one

718
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: in Texas and people are like what the fuck, and

719
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, that's Puerto Rico all the time. Like

720
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: you guys were upset for Texas having a privatized grid,

721
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: which is insane. It is a state, it shouldn't have

722
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: a privatized sprid, you know, but it's like that's Puerto

723
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: Rico all the time. And the difference is Puerto Rico

724
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: doesn't have the right to vote, so they don't get

725
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 4: to make any decisions on what's going on with their

726
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: power grid and what's going on with the happens in

727
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: their in their country. So like all the time, Puerto Rico,

728
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 4: like all times a year, not just during hurricane season,

729
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: has rolling blackouts, unstable internet. It's just like very unstable

730
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: living conditions. And it's because it is owned by I

731
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: think Luma is the owner of the power grid, and

732
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: it's neglected.

733
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: They're just like they're they it's corrupt. It's a very

734
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: corrupt system.

735
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, so that it was like a big fuck

736
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 4: you to like Luma the power grid, what's going on there.

737
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: The flags, so if I didn't I notice it at

738
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: the black and white flag, which is like kind of

739
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 4: the newer like revolutionary flag that is like the big

740
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: activist flag, the black and white flag, but the turquoise

741
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 4: like the lighter blue Puerto Rico flag is like our

742
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: original flag, which is very very important because for a

743
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: long time.

744
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: It was banned for many years like you were not.

745
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 4: There was like a flag band, you cannot wave your flag,

746
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: which is why perto Ricans are very proud and they

747
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: put their flag everywhere because for many many years it

748
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: was like illegal for you to hold your flag. And

749
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: so that's why people have really are prideful of the

750
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: turquoise flag over the blue flag because basically when they

751
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: like through US imperialism and they were like, fine, you

752
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: can have your flag back, they made them use the

753
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: dark blue flag so it would feel more connected with

754
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 4: the United States as we are one. And so as

755
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 4: a part of rebellion, it's like, no, we will not

756
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 4: use the dark blue American Puerto Rican flag. We use

757
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: the turquoise original real Puerto Rican flag.

758
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: Let's see. Ricky Martin obviously incredible.

759
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 4: I think him singing but specifically singing Hawaii off the

760
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: album was such a beautiful tribute of like him reaching

761
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: back as like a thank you Ricky for being the

762
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: reason I'm able to do something like this today. But

763
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: also him showing such an ex like that is such

764
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: a protest song to sing Hawaii on that stage and

765
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 4: say we do not want to be Hawaii.

766
00:40:40,120 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, let me step back and add some color

767
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: to that moment, which I feel like deserves highlighting. It's

768
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: that like in most Pacific islands, Hawaii is the cautionary tale,

769
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: like that, I'm glad, I'm glad you brought that up.

770
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: Like this is whether you're talking.

771
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: Tonga, Samoa, you know, Fiji, everybody like obviously there's a

772
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: big Polynesian population over here too, and they're just like

773
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: that's the thing.

774
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: They're like, don't become Hawaii. You know what I'm saying.

775
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: And if you if you've been to Hawaii, you understand

776
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: what they mean by that.

777
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: So like so yeah, I didn't I didn't know that.

778
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I didn't know.

779
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico like adopted that too, like I've known it

780
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: as like a Polynesian thing, but like.

781
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: Dang, that's such a so very specifics.

782
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: In Puerto Rico because there is this big conversation It's

783
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 4: been a conversation since Puerto Ricans, like.

784
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: Colonial or US's colonial.

785
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 4: Reign of Puerto Rico is this conversation of statehood because

786
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 4: it is incorporated versus unincorporated territories. Hawaii is actually the

787
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 4: only territory that became incorporated and then became a state.

788
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico's consistent to to stay in unincorporated territory, which

789
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: means it is a part of, or belonging to, but

790
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: not a part of the United States, meaning they were

791
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: considered too savage to be ruled by the United States.

792
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: And a big part of that is because of the

793
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 4: black population of Puerto Rico. They considered us literally savage

794
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: is it says that in the legal doctrine that we

795
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: were too savage to be incorporated, and therefore we've always

796
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: had a second class citizenship status.

797
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: And with that, the conversation has.

798
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: Been like, but if we become a state, we'll get rights, right,

799
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: like maybe the power grid or get fixed, maybe the

800
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 4: things will get fix.

801
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: But in reality, it's.

802
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: This dangling care at the United States folds over Puerto Rico,

803
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 4: being like, maybe maybe we'll incorporate you, and maybe we'll

804
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 4: help you, but it does not behoove the United States

805
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: to incorporate Puerto Rico because it is a tax haven.

806
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: It's been created as this lawless land for the United

807
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: States to use and abuse for their benefits, and to

808
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 4: make it a state means they have to change those laws,

809
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: they have to absorb that debt and They're never going

810
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: to do that. So it's like it's like statehood is

811
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: like the American dream of Puerto Rico. It is like

812
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: this fake dream that will never come to fruition. And

813
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 4: I think those of us that are a part of

814
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 4: the Liberation of Puerto Rico movement, we are like very

815
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 4: much like if we become a state, we become Hawaii,

816
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: and that is the cautionary tarial.

817
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: We cannot be Hawaii.

818
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: The cultures lost, Like, yeah, the culture is lost. And

819
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: as many Hawaiian friends as I know who like you know, yes,

820
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: relearned their language, you know what I'm saying, and like

821
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: and trying to like reclaim that, but it's definitely like

822
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: they walked in.

823
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: It's hard.

824
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: I went to Hawaii so many years ago, like way

825
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: for they told us please don't come here, and I

826
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 4: will never go back until they say it's okay. But

827
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: I went in twenty eighteen. I went on a solo trip.

828
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: Was like my only real solo trip that I did.

829
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: It was so healing. It's such a beautiful place. But

830
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 4: I remember going to the museums. I went to Maui

831
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 4: because I did not want to go to Honolulu because

832
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 4: I was like that is so too nicekay. So I

833
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: went to Maui and I went to the museums and

834
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: the way that they like rewrote history in the museums

835
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 4: because the United States is like they can't know what

836
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: happened here. And I did not know as much as

837
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: I know now. But I remember even back then because

838
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: I was like only twenty three when I went.

839
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: I was like, what the I was like reading this.

840
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: I was like, there this, I know the saying how

841
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: I went down? I know the saying how I went

842
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: down at all.

843
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm always cracking up when you read in history books

844
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: like and this person unified the tribes and I'm like,

845
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: they did what now? Like that? So they unified the kingdom? Hi,

846
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: I brought the kingdom under one? Where that was they did?

847
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: It was the revision I worry museums in Hawaii.

848
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: It was like yeah, And there's like a lot of

849
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: kinship I think between Hawaii and Puerto Rico, because I

850
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: even learned this in that trip because of the Bootstrap

851
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: program in the nineteen fifties, because Puerto Rico was overpopulated

852
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: and also saturated because it got privatized to bring more

853
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: money and tax have into the island. And therefore destroy

854
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 4: the local economy.

855
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: In Puerto Rico.

856
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 4: Puerto Ricans flew to Hawaii because there were farm lands

857
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: in Hawaii and Hawaii was a newly incorporated territory as

858
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 4: a state. Yea, so many Puerto Ricans came to Hawaii

859
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 4: to get jobs because they were like, well, we are

860
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: sugarcane farmers, so we will farm here because that's what

861
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 4: we know what to do. So yeah, there is kinship

862
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: between Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

863
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

864
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: And and having that quick little moment in the super

865
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: Bowl like dude, ah yeah a that just gave me

866
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: the chills, like knowing that that's what was going on

867
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: right there.

868
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: All right, those else, I.

869
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: Feel like those were all the main main Like I'm

870
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: trying to think, like as I skimmed this article and

871
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 4: then like I'm thinking of myself because I rewatched it

872
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: like eight times because I just loved it so much.

873
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I went to the gym.

874
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: I went to the gym, and I literally like, if

875
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: you go on Apple Music and on Spotify, I think

876
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 4: they have it as like because I listened to the

877
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 4: Kendrick one to this day still because it's such a

878
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: good mix. I played that like on repeat. I was

879
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 4: just like on the treadmill playing it on repeat. But no,

880
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: I think those were all the main simbolism moments. I

881
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: did watch this video today. I don't remember the creator

882
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: off the top of my head, but they had made

883
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: note something about like what I had missed this and

884
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 4: what bad Bunny was like singing before Lady Gaga came on, because.

885
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was very random.

886
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: I was like, Lady Gaga's here, this feels random out

887
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 4: of all the people he could have brought on, it

888
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: felt very random. But someone had said, basically in Spanish

889
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: because it was movie so fast, I missed it that

890
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 4: that Bunny had basically said is this what you want?

891
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 4: And then kind of like put Lady Gaga on the

892
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 4: stage for like the white americanas to be like you

893
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: wanted a song in English here?

894
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

895
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And that is not any shade of Lady Khana.

896
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: He is a Lady Gaga supporter and fan, and he

897
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: would not have brought her on had he not loved her.

898
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 4: He's she's been a huge supporter of his career, I

899
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: think the whole time. But I think it was more

900
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: to show like y'all want an English song here, like.

901
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: There you go.

902
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 4: But also this like kinship that like it can be collaborative.

903
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be this like exclusionary conversation of like, yeah,

904
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 4: this is.

905
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: Us and you're not allowed.

906
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: He's like no, Like the point is we are here

907
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 4: and we should feel like accepted and that we want

908
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 4: to bring y'all in.

909
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also share our culture.

910
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: Yeah you yeah.

911
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: The segregation is the choice of the segregation is you

912
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: said no, one said you weren't welcome.

913
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 3: You said you don't want to be here.

914
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: And that's a very different thing that like I like

915
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: I wish I could scream from a like the rooftops

916
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: where I'm just like this, this is a one sided problem.

917
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: This is your problem. Like we're chilling. I just okay,

918
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: it's so stupid. It's it's stupid what I'm about to say.

919
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: But like I just went viral. Okay, on the day

920
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: of the protests or the the the general strike, I'm

921
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: just outside, I'm trying. I have a plantain tree over here, right,

922
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So like if I thought,

923
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, no, But so I have

924
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: a plantain tree, and a couple months back, you know,

925
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: I was outside, I was trimming it. A lady came

926
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,959
Speaker 2: up there like a you know, like a I would

927
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: eat that, you know what i mean. So she just

928
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: kind of came up and was like, you know, trying

929
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: to practice her English and just asking like how much

930
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: for for the leaves and I was like, yeah, like

931
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: sell them you yeah, that's got a thieves like you

932
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: can have it, right, So so she so I gave it.

933
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: So I cut a few down, gave it to her

934
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: and then I mean she I've seen her drive by

935
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: and like clip them like like sneaking, and I'm just

936
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: like it's that went on like you know what I'm saying,

937
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: Like he thoughts, it's not like I can help you,

938
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: like there's another tree in the back, I'll help you.

939
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 5: Right.

940
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: So anyway, a few weeks later, her daughter came.

941
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: By and was just like yeah, that was my mom

942
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: and you know, and I'm like, dude, I'll leave, I'll

943
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: come plant one for you, like it's all good.

944
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 3: You can have it like I want. I want to. Yeah,

945
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: I don't like you. I don't need to leave fam.

946
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: And she was like I'm from El Salvador. You know,

947
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: we make we make you know to my lace with it,

948
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 2: and I'm like, girl, I know you know, yes here.

949
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: So anyway, on the day of the protest, I was trimming.

950
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: The lady came up and was just like, oh, are

951
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: you done with those? I was like, yeah, I'm cutting

952
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: them down for you, and she goes, okay, cool. She goes,

953
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: I want to bring you to my list like my

954
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: mom made them. So I was like dope. So she

955
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: come back around would have you know?

956
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: Played about ten to my les and I was like, this.

957
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: Is this is the exchange, Yes.

958
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 3: This is the exchange. It's just community.

959
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: Nobody is like you're welcome here, Like that's what I'm

960
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: trying to say, Like the problem is yours.

961
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I found.

962
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: In every experience I've had, even just like I'm from

963
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: South central Los Angeles, like we're not we're very we're

964
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 2: not monsters, like we are family oriented people, and it's

965
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: like just just stop being a weirdo.

966
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, just comes to the barbecue,

967
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 3: you cool? That is weird.

968
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: Else you know, over when it comes to white people specifically,

969
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 4: is that it is ingrained in their culture. Do not

970
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 4: need or want community or not need they need community?

971
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 4: And that is why they like that because they don't

972
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 4: have community, they don't have an inherent desire for community,

973
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: because it's been like taught out of them and it's

974
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: so strained, and it's like you would be better off

975
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 4: if you actually leaned into kneting and wanting community.

976
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: Crazy. We're not hit phone, and it's.

977
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 3: It's just right. It's such a better way to live.

978
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: It's fine, like that lady will bring you to my list,

979
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: like just listen, like one one of the lady on

980
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: one side of my house, least over there she grows like.

981
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 3: She's gotta like squash and like, uh.

982
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: Figs, you know what I'm saying, Like I said, I

983
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: got these, we got I got onions in the back.

984
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm you know tis and said woay over they got

985
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: lemons and oranges over and I'm.

986
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: Like, bro, it's chill dog like you.

987
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like I don't understand why you don't want

988
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: to live like this, but anyway to wrap this up,

989
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to take too much of your time.

990
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: First of all, thank you so much. This was so dope.

991
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm glad to glad to actually meet you. Like immediately,

992
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: Sophie was like, uh, we gotta.

993
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: Get back up.

994
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: I was like word put it on. Yeah, what are

995
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: your last thoughts? Like, so moving into the future, your

996
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 2: last thoughts.

997
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm like running out a high of

998
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 4: being Puerto Rican this week. I feel it's like like

999
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: I keep seeing things as like Puerto Rican in every

1000
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 4: lifetime and I'm like, yes, I only in this moment

1001
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 4: to be Puerto Rican, but to be doing and having

1002
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 4: the platform to do the work that I'm doing around

1003
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 4: like lifting the culture.

1004
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: And it's just like, yeah, I.

1005
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 4: Know I'm biased, but I do feel like it was

1006
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 4: one of the best Super Bowl performances of all time,

1007
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 4: like just in terms of like set design, music, curation,

1008
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: the messaging, Like I feel like him and Kendrick's performances

1009
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 4: are like top.

1010
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: Two of all old time.

1011
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: They met the moment, they were very like, they were

1012
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: very radical. They were incredibly like well mixed, well choreographed,

1013
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: well done, Like yeah, it was.

1014
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: I have no words no as an La Native, as

1015
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: an La Native and a black man, like I have

1016
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: to say objectively that this was that that was the

1017
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: best super Bowl I've ever seen. And it's like Kendrick

1018
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: had to do what he had to do, like indible,

1019
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like he had to do that,

1020
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But this was he couldn't

1021
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: do like like doctor Dre did the love Letter to

1022
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: l A already, like so we already did that. So

1023
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: he had to meet this moment in the very militant

1024
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, and like you know, stomping ground.

1025
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: This is Compton, like I am, I am the biggest

1026
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: act on earth and you need to know it.

1027
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He needed to do that.

1028
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: You know, bad Bunny needed to do what he did,

1029
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: and it Yeah, it was just it was not biased

1030
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: at all.

1031
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 4: It was so it was so good. I'm so proud

1032
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: to be perto Rican. I'm so I'm so like.

1033
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: You should be as a black man from Los Angeles.

1034
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm proud to be an everything.

1035
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: Everyone's okay, everyone.

1036
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: Literally everyone's.

1037
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: Crowd, all right, So get throw out all your all

1038
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: your app mentions where they can hit, where they can

1039
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: peat the pod in.

1040
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 4: We are welcome to a barrio on all platforms, just

1041
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: at welcome to a badrio. There's a sub sect that's

1042
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: like wt ep dot subsect dot com where there'll be

1043
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 4: like bonus content.

1044
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: I am sorry. I'm so working on writing those.

1045
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: Pieces, but I'm trying to get two to four pieces

1046
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: a month out there on the substack. That's like additional

1047
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: supplemental stuff from the episodes. We have two episodes right

1048
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: now out. I have my solo first episode which is

1049
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 4: like narrative, what is the podcast?

1050
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: Why am I making it?

1051
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: And then this episode that came out yesterday on Tuesday,

1052
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 4: the tenth is with Dorees Barrio and Ara Santiago Ortiz.

1053
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: They're both authors, activists, historians, incredible people. Drell did all

1054
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 4: the visualizers of Abani's album. He also wrote put Rico

1055
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 4: and National History and award winning book about history culture.

1056
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: I would say it's like the best Monday capture of

1057
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico from archipelago to today.

1058
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: And it was a great conversation.

1059
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: We talked about all things Puerto Rico, but also specifically

1060
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 4: about Venezuela in this episode, because there is a connection

1061
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: between Puerto Rico and Venezuela and that people need to

1062
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 4: know about. And you can find me at absolutely the ECCS.

1063
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: Ramos and yeah, I love it, bes Becks Ramos. All right,

1064
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: last question, and this is a civil, real question. I'm

1065
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: trying to I'm trying to be messy. I'm trying to

1066
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: be messy, and as a Latina.

1067
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be messy with you. Fuck j Loo.

1068
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, somebody finally tells the too because I said it.

1069
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: I've been alluding to it on many places, but I did.

1070
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: This is the bold as I've said it. But I

1071
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: will say I met her for.

1072
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 4: Work, and let's just say her team used me for content,

1073
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 4: and she did not look in my direction. I was

1074
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: wearing a very bodiquette outfit. She didn't even look at me.

1075
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 4: Her team though, was like, oh my god, we got

1076
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 4: to get the Bodykua. I'm like, didn't even look in

1077
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 4: my direction. But also, Hi, Hi, the reason you actually

1078
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 4: got booked on the show because your team emailed my

1079
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 4: personal email because they saw, oh, she's the producer of

1080
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: this very big show and she's she will probably be

1081
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: the reason we get on the show, which is true.

1082
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 4: I'm the reason she got on the show. But it

1083
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: is just like she is a culture vulture. You know,

1084
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 4: she's Puerto Rican when it's convenient, not when it's important.

1085
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 4: And I think that's the reason people love Mark Anthony

1086
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 4: and they don't love j Lo even though they were together.

1087
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 4: I think Mark Anthony has always been a new Eurekan

1088
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: through and through and like even though he didn't like

1089
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: in his like beginning of his career, he didn't want

1090
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: to be a salsa guy, and then he became a

1091
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 4: salsa guy. I think he really grew to love and

1092
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 4: earn the respect of the culture in a way that Jlo's.

1093
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 4: She's been a grifter. She she's a corn artist, man.

1094
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: Listen.

1095
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 4: She's a great entertainer. I will never take away that

1096
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 4: she did an incredible dancer. She can be an entertainer,

1097
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 4: but can she sing no girl you cooking?

1098
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: Listen?

1099
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: Because okay, this is getting low. But I like, I've

1100
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: been trying to get this on for a while. Like,

1101
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: so what I have found is if you are Mexican

1102
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: or Central American, you are on team yeah fuck Jlo.

1103
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: And it's general.

1104
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: It starts off with her trying to be Selena and

1105
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: which is like you cannot touch the queen, like Selena's untouchable.

1106
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: This is sacred ground. How dare you right? So there

1107
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: was that and then there was the like but the

1108
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: New York Jenny from the block to where it was

1109
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, she kinda is more like us. It's

1110
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: just like you kind of little hood, you know what

1111
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, but you you get it for yourself

1112
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: is good. And then she started singing and you know

1113
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: the fly Girls you know from like yeah, when when

1114
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: she was that living color just looking, it was like, okay, word,

1115
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And then you know, she

1116
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: pivoted and it was just like I'm I'm trying, sweetheart,

1117
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to stay with you. I'm trying to I'm

1118
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: trying to ride for you. You know what I'm saying. But like,

1119
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, everybody respecting her business acumen, you know what

1120
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Now, they're like they're boy saying she's a

1121
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: great entertainer in business acument.

1122
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 3: But like, I don't know.

1123
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: She like I This is my theory.

1124
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: She had her children Mark Anthony specifically, out of all

1125
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 4: the men she's married, because she wanted her kids to

1126
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 4: be fully Bordiquas, but not because she cared about the culture.

1127
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: I think she just liked the idea that her kids

1128
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: were still a hunters in perto.

1129
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 6: Rican Yeah.

1130
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, buddy, I look it. Look it. So

1131
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: there's there's two parts of me.

1132
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: As you could tell, I am a sis gendered heterosexual male.

1133
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 3: So there's a part of me that's like but ja loo.

1134
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, ft Ricans are hot as fuck, like she

1135
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 4: is hot as fuck.

1136
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: Just Carrio.

1137
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: You just we were at the the God I need

1138
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 2: to stop this pod, but this is so good.

1139
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: We were at the.

1140
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: When the during the few years ago when the Roots

1141
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: used to do at hotel cafe, they used to do

1142
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: like the Roots sit in so they would do that,

1143
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: you know, bring an artists at one of my friends

1144
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: who like, you know, he was up for best Album whatever. Right,

1145
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: So we got to go to the city in I'm

1146
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: standing in the back. They calls up to go, like

1147
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: do the song, and the hotel cafe is like, I

1148
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: mean it's smaller than like like the new Eurekan Cafe,

1149
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: Like it's smaller than that, Like it's tiny.

1150
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 3: So you're you're bunched up.

1151
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I look in front of me as I'm trying to

1152
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: walk through the line, it's Queen Latifa and I'm just like,

1153
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm kind of freaking out the Queen Latifa, right.

1154
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so it's slide by all.

1155
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: Excuse me, excuse me, you know, trying to be respectful,

1156
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm I'm a decent dude, So I'm

1157
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: trying to keep my hands up so get you know,

1158
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: like I'm not trying to grab your ass and nothing

1159
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying.

1160
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to slide by.

1161
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: So when I turned my head by the person I

1162
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: just slid by, it was Jlo, and I was like,

1163
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: oh shit, you're this fine in person, Like in my brain,

1164
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: I was like, she's.

1165
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: God, damn it, you still that fine? You really look

1166
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: that good? Like yeah, at that.

1167
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: I was like, it's still like I still I don't

1168
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: know if I could ride for you, like I feel

1169
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: like i'd be I don't know if I could ride for.

1170
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: You, but crazy.

1171
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 4: And I do like because I feel like when I

1172
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 4: started this podcast and I was like pitching it, they

1173
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: were like, we could get you Jlo, and I'm like,

1174
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 4: but I don't want Jaelo. Jlo is not the conversation

1175
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 4: you have to have, like the conversation.

1176
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have. Okay, she's not going to have

1177
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: it with me, So.

1178
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: I love you just made my dad. This is the

1179
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: best part in the spot. I don't care know why

1180
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: I said this is the best part in the spot.

1181
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

1182
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: I better end this shits doing it.

1183
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: All right now, don't you hit stop on this pod.

1184
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: You better listen to these credits.

1185
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: I need you to finish this thing so I can

1186
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: get the download numbers.

1187
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so don't stop it yet, but listen.

1188
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,800
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1189
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,160
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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,760
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1203
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Speaker 2: Still Killing the Beat softly, so listen. Don't let nobody

1206
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: lie to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics.

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Speaker 3: These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all

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Speaker 3: next week.