1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound on Georgia. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: But they don't know. I'll built for this. Yeah, I'll 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: built for this un termedly. He also claimed that he 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: used to let me beat him at basketball, but then 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: he admitted then we've never actually met. Bloomberg Sound on Politics, 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Policy and Perspective from DC's top name sees waging increases 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: are larger than the increasing inflation. The issue of six 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: time needs to be caught. The companies need to sit 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: down at the unions. Now Bloomberg Sound on with Joe 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. It's the last weekend of campaigning 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: in Georgia and the Senate race is still too close 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: to call. Welcome to the fastest hour in politics, as 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: we had for Tuesday's runoff. With fresh pulling up and 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: after another visit by former President Barack Obama, were joined 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: by the most important political journalist in George Greg Bluestein 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: of the Atlanta Journal Constitution for the Lay of the Land. 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: President Biden signs legislation to prevent the rail strike, will 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: consider the Political Balancing Act with Lincoln Mitchell, political analysts 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: from Columbia University and as Biden rewrites the calendar for 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: the presidential campaign cycle. New Hampster says, don't even try it. 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: We'll laugh. Analysis from our signature panel Bloomberg Politics contributors 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: Rick Davis and Jeannie Chanzano here for the Hour on 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: this Friday edition. New polling ahead this weekend of campaigning 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: in Georgia. This last weekend, I should say. The Senate 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: runoff again is on Tuesday, and a new CNN S 26 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: S R S pole out today shows Raphael Warnock leading 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: by four percentage points among likely voters. Came out fifty 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: two to forty. It's about the same as the real 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: clear average of polls we've been looking at, although Warnock leads, 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: as we've heard in other polls like a A r P, 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: by a much a wider margin among independent to thirty six. 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: There the poll's got a marsh of vera about three points, 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: so this is still tight. Senator Warnock was on the 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: stump before about two thousand people last night in Atlanta. 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: Here he is, I believe in my soul that Georgia 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: knows that Georgia is better than Herschel longer, Georgia is 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: better than Herschel laws and with another presidential visit. That's 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: why we had two thousand people. They're not Joe Biden, 39 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: but Barack Obama. Back in Georgia when after some of 40 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: herschel Walker's more interesting remarks. Since the last time I 41 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: was here, and Mr Walker has been talking about issues 42 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: that are of great importance to the people at Georgia, 43 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: like whether it's better to be a vampire or a 44 00:02:50,400 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: raw wolf. This is a debate, but I must confess 45 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: I once had myself when I was seven. He remember 46 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Frida Night, anyone the vampires and where wolves? This is 47 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: herschel Walker on November six. The other night, I was 48 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: watching this movie, watching this movie called Friday Night for 49 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: Eating Night and some kind of night, but about vampires. 50 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew vampires and cool people? 51 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Are they not? But I'm gonna tell you something that 52 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: I found out where I wolf to kill a vampire. 53 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: Did you know that happen? I never knew that. So 54 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a vampire any more. I 55 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: want to be a were wolf. But then, anyway, christ 56 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: you heard that. If you're listening to this broadcast, we're 57 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: lucky to have the view from Atlanta today. Uh has 58 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: We're joined by Greg Bluestein, who has been in the 59 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: center of this for months, first the general, now the runoff. 60 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: He's the senior political reporter at the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Greg, 61 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. How much of a difference 62 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: does Barack Obama make for Raphael Warner? I think it 63 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: makes a big difference because right now, what is I 64 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: want to want to do? How much to energize the 65 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: base in an election that you know still a lot 66 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: of Jordan's have no ideas going on? He was energized 67 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: the face of Democratic supporters, especially black voters who are 68 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: the backbone of the Democratic Party here in Georgia. And 69 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: by contrast, knowing Raphael Warnock has he had a lot 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: more money than Herschel Walker. He's going into this, uh, 71 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: this final stretch with three times as much cash. How 72 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: much of a difference has Brian Kemp made the governor 73 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: for the Walker campaign. So on the flip side, I 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: just talked about energizing the base, but look, both Canadas 75 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: also want to win those split ticket voters. Twods more 76 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: voters in November voted for Governor Bryant Kemp than for 77 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Herschel Walker. Now, the difference in this runoff, and so 78 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: right now herschel Walker is trying to use Governor Kemp 79 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: to win back those voters to his camp, or at 80 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: least have them to stay home and not Presenator Warnock. Meanwhile, 81 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Senator Warnock is doing his best to keep those guys 82 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: in his camp. Uh, including having even Dave's Matthews band 83 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: um who feels to white suburban voters. Uh, he had 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: them come. He had Dave Matthews come just a few 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: days ago, and there was a joke going around that 86 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: basically every babysitter in the suburb because it was occupied 87 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: that night as friends of voters came to see Dave 88 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Matthews insider to Warnock. So bringing out the firepower, the 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: celebrity firepower here. How about you know, Brian camp was 90 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: a little late to the game. It was weird during 91 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: the general because he had the Trump thing, and you know, 92 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if herschel Walker could have won that 93 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: with Brian Kemp's help. Then is it too late now? 94 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: He That's a good question because they were strained ties 95 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: between those two men throughout the general elections. I asked 96 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: herschel Walker and the May primary if he voted for 97 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Brian Camp or his challenger David Brodue. Herschel wouldn't say 98 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: either way. Um, he didn't want to antagonize Trump, who 99 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: of course opposed Brian Kemp. Um. But the two had 100 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: nothing to do with each other. It wasn't just Kemp 101 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: who didn't want to do anything Walker. Walker didn't want 102 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: much to do with Kemp either. Now, Kemp could be, 103 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, it could be this pivotal difference maker, and 104 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: he's helping, but he's also you know, he hasn't put 105 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: his entire being into this race. He's not on the 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: campaign trail with Herschel Walker right now. Instead, he's helping 107 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: in other ways. He's cutting ads, holding fundraisers, and he 108 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: went to one rally, Yeah, the big rally last weekend. 109 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Lots of it made of the early vote here I 110 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: understand now it's almost one and a half million people 111 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: casting ballots early greg. Is that advantage Warnock because of 112 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: the sort of traditional relationship that Democrats have with early voting, 113 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: or is it different now in Georgia. Yeah, it's impossible 114 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: to tell for sure. But here's what we know. We 115 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: know that most of those early votes are taking place 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: in counties that Democrats won We also know that the 117 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: demographics definitely favorite Democrats, uh with with black voters significantly disproportionate, 118 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: that they have more black voters are voting early than 119 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: it represents the state's population with large that's a good 120 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: sign for Democrats. We also know Republicans tend to dominate 121 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: on election day, so you know, herschel Walker beat Lafae 122 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Warnock on election day by about fifteen points, So they 123 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 1: still have that in their back pocket. But right now 124 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: how Democrats might might be building a cushion that's it's 125 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: insurmountable for hershel Walker will see fascinating. Uh I mentioned this. 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: We were listening to to some of the big rally 127 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: last night with Barack Obama, and I just wonder what 128 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: it's like to be a reporter there on the ground, 129 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: because from a national perspective, you know, when you get 130 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: onto the news wires, the news feeds, and the news programs, 131 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: even Twitter, you see much more from the Walnut campaign. 132 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: There's much more outreach to maybe traditional sources. I don't 133 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: know if you can even call Twitter that herschel Walker 134 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: has been speaking largely from what it seems to conservative 135 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: media outlets, and they don't have the whole media apparatus 136 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: to come to the event and plug in and get 137 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: great sounding audio and good video. You see a lot 138 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: of cell phone video and so forth. Greg, is that 139 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: the way it is to cover it locally. Yes, there's 140 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: a good reason for the difference, and that's because herschel 141 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: Walker is b ignoring the reporters who cover his campaign. 142 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: There you got this campaign. He has not talked to 143 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: the Atlanta General Constitution here, he hasn't talked to UM 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: basically most of the media UM covering him. Instead, he 145 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: favors mostly friendly outlets Fox News UM, where he's asked 146 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, mostly positive questions. And look, that's kind of 147 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: that kind of profound impact on the way we've covered 148 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: him because frankly, we can't even get him to comment 149 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: on even you know, issues that might help him, you know, 150 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: asking about um stances that Joe Biden has taken that 151 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: that should be read meat for him. Nor can we 152 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: get him to to comment on measures like just the 153 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: other day with Donald Trump's meeting with the white supremacist 154 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: racist Every major Republican in Georgia condemned that meeting, except 155 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: for herschel Walker can't get an interview and it's not 156 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: even a written statement, never mind us sit down interview. 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: They're just not accessible. Is there a press shop like 158 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: you would have in a normal campaign. There is, but 159 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: right now at this stage of the campaign. Uh, the 160 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: queries are going unanswered. Now. Of course, we have back 161 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: channels with people in the campaign, so we know what's 162 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: going on and we know when when they're just not 163 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: in a comment. I'm getting words like saying, hey, we're 164 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: not gonna say anything on this. You can ask what 165 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: we're not gonna say anything a brick wall. But certainly 166 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: it's a very bizarre to be covering a campaign. I've 167 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: been doing this for twenty years in Georgia, and even 168 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: the candidates who who don't like to a j C 169 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: still talk with us. We still over a poor with them. 170 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: We still know what they're doing. And in this case, 171 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, going to herschel walker Aroundy's just hearing the 172 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: same stump speech and then him leaving without taking any questions. 173 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: Not only that, I recently started putting up barriers so 174 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: that reporters came and get within shouting distance of the Well. Look, 175 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: that's that's the Rickey Bobby campaign. I guess Greig he 176 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: does he does call it that a so, you know, 177 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: from from someone looking from the outside end. Republicans won 178 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: every other statewide race in November. What is it that 179 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: makes this one so different? Is that the Trump effect 180 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: or or something altogether different. Yeah, I don't think it's 181 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: the Trump effect. Um. Although Trump did help, you know, 182 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: did help herschell Walker. He probably would have run away 183 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: with the nomination even without Donald Trump support, owing to 184 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: his celebrity's high name recognition and his legendary status as 185 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: a football icon here in Georgia. I think it's two things. 186 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: One is the unique, you know, quality of his candidacy 187 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: because of all the the blunders, the history of violent, 188 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: erratic behavior, um, the missteps on the campaign trail, the lies, 189 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: the exaggerations, all that has hurt him, particularly with independent voters. 190 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: And then, on the other hand, you've got to give 191 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: it to the Senator Warnock, who ran a very distant, 192 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: different campaign than most Democrats. Read. He kept his distance 193 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: from Joe Biden, he talked about bipartisanship. Um, he tried 194 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: to make himself a safe harbor for those swing voters 195 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: who he knew were a skeptical of herschel Walker. This 196 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: was the strategy from the get go. This wasn't an 197 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: this is something he was doing a year ago. Well, Greg, 198 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: we're coming to find you next week in Atlanta. I 199 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: can't wait to meet you in person, Greg bluestein Atlanta 200 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: Journal Constitution. You're ready to do this all over again? 201 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: Are you ready to getting this done? One more time? 202 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: One more time? This is now the fifth time her 203 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: baby has been on the battle in less than two 204 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: years for the same dog. Georgians are headed to the 205 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: polls for the second time in a month. They told 206 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: me I'm gonna run all but they don't know. I'll 207 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: built for this. Yeah, I'll built for this one. Let's 208 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: try it one more once. Yeah, and with the counts 209 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: the great counted our backs, we moved to Atlanta. Will 210 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: be there Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, day before, day of 211 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: day after with special coverage here on the fastest hour 212 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: in politics. Will assemble the panel next. Rick Davis is 213 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: back with us. Jennie Chanzino, our signature panel only here 214 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: on sound on and check traffic at markets for you 215 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: on the way soon. I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg. 216 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew 217 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: on Bloombird Radio. So while Senator Raphael Warnock was with 218 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: Barack Obama and two thousand supporters last night, herschel Walker 219 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: on Thursday, as I read on the terminal, was canvassing 220 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Republican enclaves along George's western border. Played to a crowd 221 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: of about a hundred people, most of them white, in 222 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: a sunny parking lot at the Pigley Wiggly in Columbus. 223 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: Many had Trump hats. Many also sported the peach stickers, 224 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: declaring they had already voted in the race, and we 225 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: assemble our panel with just days to go before we 226 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: vote again. Rick Davis is back today, Jeanie Chanzano here 227 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Politics contributors. Rick, you're an expert on campaigns. 228 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: Described to us that if we can even call it 229 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: the infrastructure of the herschel Walker campaign after what we 230 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: heard there from Greg, there's they're not even talking to 231 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: reporters right now. They're not They're not following the normal 232 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: path in reaching out to media, providing infrastructure to cover 233 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: big events, get video out there. They don't care. You know. 234 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: A lot of it is just the way he ran 235 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: his general election, right, I mean, he was an an 236 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: athemta of reporters. They wanted to ask him hard questions 237 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: about his relationships with these women who claimed he was 238 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: helping to support their abortions and promoting abortions with them. 239 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: And you know that was if he's gonna answer that 240 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: question over and over and over, just quit taking questions 241 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: from the press. I mean, I've seen would have been 242 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: different without the scandals or was this just the nature 243 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: of it to begin with? You know, looks arguably the 244 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: press is going to be biased towards an incumbent Democrat, 245 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, running for reelection uh and herschel Walker hasn't 246 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: been press friendly, so he hasn't developed any relationships along 247 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: the way. Part of the problem with having a first 248 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: time or is they don't know how to use the press. 249 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: They don't know how to communicate uh And and I 250 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: think that really part of what he's done in this 251 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: UH runoff is he's really dependent upon Governor Kemp's get 252 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: out to vote operation to deliver those two hundred thousand 253 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: extra voters that you know, Greg was talking about that 254 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Kemp got that um that that Walker didn't and and 255 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: and make up the difference. So Look, it's obvious from 256 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: the polling that any one of these guys could win. 257 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: So the question is not going to be whether or 258 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: not you're actually happy with their stump speech or anything 259 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: like that. It's gonna be who got you to go 260 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: to the polls, and that intensity so far looks like 261 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: it's been advantage Democrats. Thanks in large parts. You need 262 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: to Barack Obama. Did that second visit make a difference? Well, 263 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I tell you if I ever run for office, which 264 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: I never would, as you know, Joe, but if I did, 265 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: I want Barack Obama out there. Nobody gets a crowd 266 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: going like Barack Obama. He had some great one line 267 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: and it is important because, as Greg and you were 268 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: talking about, they got to get the base out. You know, 269 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: a problem that Democrats across the country had in this 270 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: mid term is that black voters did not come out 271 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: in as large numbers as expected, and so they are 272 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: trying to push those numbers up. Nobody is better equipped 273 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: to do that than Barack Obama. But as Greg was 274 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: talking about, they've brought in a host of Hollywood celebrities, 275 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, America Ferrara to the aforementioned Dave Matthews band, 276 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: who apparently attracted a lot of the suburban mothers over 277 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: to the the events, so you get them out the 278 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: way you can. And you know, there are very good 279 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: signs numbers wise for Democrats here. You know, you look 280 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: at the numbers and the at least the early voting numbers. 281 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Democrats are buoyed by those because we're seeing a lot 282 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: more people who live in Democratic districts out to vote 283 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: compared to Republicans. But of course Republicans vote same day 284 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: in higher numbers, so that could flip. But it's good 285 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: early signs for you are right that that Barack Obama 286 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: had some great one liners last night and it was 287 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: it was live at the improv once again. We saw 288 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: this during the general and he was he had even 289 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: more material this time around, just because the campaign keeps going, 290 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, we didn't have vampires and werewolves back then. 291 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: But I guess my question for both of you is 292 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: when is it too much? Let me bring it back 293 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: into the room again. Last night at the big Obama rally, 294 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: here's Raphael Warnock. You deserve a senator who will tell 295 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: you the truth. You deserve a senator who actually lives 296 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: in Georgia. So we're back to that. We talked about 297 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: this the other night that, you know, the whole homestead thing. 298 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Does he actually live here in Texas? Here's Barack Obama 299 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: again with more of his routine since the last time 300 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: I was here. Apparently he also claimed that he used 301 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to let me beat him that basketball, but then he 302 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: admitted they we've never actually met, so I guess this 303 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: was more of an imaginary whooper here. Now, Listen, this 304 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: would be funny if you weren't running for Senate. Now, look, 305 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: I've played a lot of these moments, as you know, 306 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: on this program as they've happened. It's been part of 307 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: the herschel Walker campaign. But Rick, at what point does 308 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: it become too much where you're making fun of the 309 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: candidate and starts to come back on you and make 310 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: you look bad. Look, I mean, none of these attacks 311 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: are actually going to resonate with these independent voters who 312 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: are looking at the you know, sort of individual They've 313 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: already made some decisions on their authenticity and and now 314 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: it's really gonna be like, who's gonna best helped me 315 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: establish uh my community the way I want it? Right, 316 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Who's gonna be my best representative there? And and look, 317 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: The fault line is most of these people are gonna 318 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: vote their preference, right, even the independent voters have preferences 319 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: on the Republican and Democratic side. And all we saw 320 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: during the general election was this is all about who's 321 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: a Republican showing up and who's a Democrat shown up? 322 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: And very little to do with who these individuals are 323 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: who are running in the in the contest, Genie, do 324 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: they come off as sounding elitist? On and I know 325 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: people are laughing, but how does it resonate? How does 326 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: it echo for a couple of days later? Well, we 327 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: should all remember we've seen this backfire and on Barack Obama, 328 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: he is great with the one liners at backfired in 329 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: the case of Donald Trump, who who you know, ran 330 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: for president and yeah, so because of that. But you know, listen, 331 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: I think what Barack Obama is talking about is this 332 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: guy doesn't have the character to be senator. And he's 333 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: made that case over and over and the campaign that's 334 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: the case they want him to make to get their 335 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: voters out. Boy, it's just incredible. It happens finally on Tuesday, 336 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: the actual voting, we're told we might find out who 337 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: won by say, the next day, we'll talk about it 338 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: more with Rick and Jennie coming up on the fastest 339 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: hour in politics. I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg eight 340 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: thirty this morning. Boy, it was something watching listening to 341 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: surveillance here on Bloomberg. I mean, they're as we're on 342 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: the floor, t K, John Farroh Bramo and their guests. 343 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: Nobody could believe this number so much for the whisper 344 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: stronger than expected. The market's freak out. But that's good 345 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: news on Main Street. And of course, you know Joe 346 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: Biden wanted to talk about it. That's part of his job. 347 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: We don't need to deal with j Powell and interest 348 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: rates in a possible recession right now, By god, there 349 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: are more jobs than we expected. And the President says 350 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: wages are up to here he is wages for working 351 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: families in fact, over the last couple of months have 352 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: gone up up. These waging increases are larger than the 353 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: increasing inflation during that same period of time. And so 354 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: we're in a position now where we're here. Things are moving. 355 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: They're moving in the right direction, which sounds great unless 356 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: you're j Powell or apparently half of Wall Street. That's 357 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: like cringe material there up more than inflation. Well that 358 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: could lead to a wage by roll if we're not 359 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: already in one. And all this stuff sounds really cold 360 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: and just awful when you know people come on the 361 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: air and say, my god, we have to break the 362 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: job market to stop inflation. Well maybe you ought to 363 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: lose your job first. But then the President leaves the podium, 364 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: sits down at the mini desk there with Marty Walsh, 365 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: Briandese behind him, and he signs legislation preventing the rail 366 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: unions from going on strike. No not you not now, 367 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: even without the sick time. Well they got one day, 368 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: I guess in that thing. And of course the President, 369 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: as he said yesterday, he negotiated a deal that nobody 370 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: else could have. You said, so damned if you do, 371 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: damned if you don't. As we head into this first 372 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: weekend of December, with the help of Lincoln Mitchell, we're 373 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: looking forward to talking to Lincoln at this very moment. 374 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: Political analyst, adjunct Associate Research scholar at the Institute of 375 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: War and Peace Studies at Columbia University. I don't I 376 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: can't tell this is a good day or a bad day. Lincoln, 377 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: what do you think for Joe Biden. I think it's 378 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: on balance and okay, day the Job's report is what's 379 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: going to drive the news for most Americans watching this 380 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: and averting the railroad strike is a good thing for 381 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. It may not. I think it's not a 382 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: great deal for the workers, and it made the long 383 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: run continue to build a sentiment that Joe for younger 384 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: quickly for younger Democrats that Biden is a corporate Democrat 385 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: and it's somebody about whom they can't get enthused. But 386 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: in the short run, it's a good day. What keeps 387 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: you know, I realized it keeps the economy moving. You 388 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: can really make a very easy argument that he had 389 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: no choice. He couldn't have the economy shutdown going into 390 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: the end of the year here. That was not an option, 391 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: but he just didn't plan for it to go this way. 392 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: Right Lincoln, he's talking all the time about he wants 393 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: to be the most union labor friendly administration in history. 394 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: He's up in Boston today at the ib W Local 395 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: one oh three for crying out loud. That's not the 396 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: story he wanted to tell. And that's also very much 397 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: his brand, right. He's middle class, Joe the labor guy. 398 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: He's also Joe Biden, who had before he became, you know, 399 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: vice president, certainly before he became president, was legendary for 400 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: actually taking Amtrak right from Washington to his home in Delaware. 401 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: So he's so this is very much against his image. 402 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: What strikes me here and what puzzles me, is that 403 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: you could understand a situation where the president said, you know, 404 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the money that the 405 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: labor unions, I'm a pro labor guy, but this money 406 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: is too much, right. You could understand that, But on 407 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: something like paid sickly, which seems for those of us 408 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: who are fortunate enough to have paid sickly or to 409 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: work from home, it just seems so extraordinary that you 410 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: would say to railroad workers that you know, if you're 411 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: sick and you go and you stay home, which we 412 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: want sick people to do in an age when COVID 413 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: is still out there, you're gonna lose a day's work. 414 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: And for people who need that money, that's that's a 415 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: poor decision, or you're fired. I guess in some cases 416 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: you is what was happening now, So okay, I'm glad 417 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: you brought it up. Listen to Joe Biden today in 418 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: that in that same address to the nation, as the 419 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: Job's report came out, he came he had some initial 420 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: remarks about the rail deal, and specifically on paid sickly. 421 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: Listen and look, I know this bill doesn't have paid sickly, 422 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: but these rail workersn't. Frankly, every worker in America deserves. 423 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: But that fight isn't over. I didn't commit we were 424 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: going to stop just because we couldn't get it in 425 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: this bill, that we were going to stop fighting for it. 426 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: We heard a similar refrain from Marty Walsh this morning. 427 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: We heard similar comments yesterday from Democrats including Chuck Schumer Lincoln. 428 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Are we serious though? How do you come back around 429 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: on that? We also heard it from Democrats like Nancy 430 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: Pelosi in the House of Representatives, who is still the speaker. 431 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: So it seems to me, I mean, I'm just an 432 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: I re Tower academic, right, But it seems to me 433 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: that the Secretary of Labor, the President, the Speaker of 434 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: the House, and it sent a majority to agree on something, 435 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: we should be able to get it done. Lame duck. 436 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: We don't know if he's a lame duck yet, right, no, 437 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: I mean, can this be done in the lame duck 438 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: that's the unless this sort of executive action he is 439 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: gonna take right if you it could be done by 440 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: executive action, It could be done quickly in the lame 441 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: duck session. Absolutely, And it's the kind of thing where 442 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, who's against this other than the kind of 443 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: most Montgomery burns ish labor corporate boss. Who's really going 444 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: to stand up and say, these sick workers need to 445 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: come in, that's that's what they need to do, and 446 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: that that's good for America. The republic news and Bernie 447 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: Sanders fist bumping over this, and the Senate floor for 448 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: crying out right. Make the Republicans opposed this right, make 449 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: Joe manche stand alone out there and and and for 450 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: once put some muscle on him. But this, this was 451 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: something he could have done, and not doing it was 452 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: a decision amazing to me. There isn't more shaming of 453 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: the railroads in this conversation. If you have both sides 454 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: of the aisle having this, uh, this this argument Lincoln 455 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: and agreeing on this when it comes to sick time. 456 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: How come their names aren't in the headlines? How come 457 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: we you know these these sort of phantom twelve unions. 458 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: It's amazing to me there hasn't been more of an 459 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: effort to put them in the public eye, to put 460 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: the railroads. I should say yes when you have when 461 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: you have twelve unions who are also, you know, not 462 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: terribly well known, it's it's the railroad companies that that 463 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: people don't know the first thing about right now. I 464 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: suspect the reason for that, And again, I this is 465 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: just a wild guest, but I suspect is because they 466 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: give a lot of money to politicians, and part of 467 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: what they're buying is, you know, don't don't expose us 468 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: like this. Boy, that's a pretty grim view. If that's 469 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: the case, you don't bring me on you your show 470 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: for my optimism established that. Uh yeah, we'll try to 471 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: keep it that way. Lincoln, thank you for chiming in. 472 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: Lincoln Mitchell at the Institute of warrn P Studies at 473 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: Columbia University. We'll see what the panel thinks about this 474 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: coming up here, because you know it's it's interesting as 475 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: we go into next year, the chances of a recession, 476 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: we're told are great. Bloomberg Economics will tell you the 477 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: chances are one, and we've got a job market here 478 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: that's confounding the Fed and and prompting them to raise 479 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: interest rates continuously until we are in newer recession. So 480 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: it does make you sort of wonder sometimes what side 481 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: of the coin the messaging needs to be on at 482 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: the White House and what they should be preparing the 483 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: American people for. We'll pick it up with the panel 484 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: coming up next. Nee Schanzano and Rick Davis are with 485 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: us in our final moments here in the fastest hour 486 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: in politics, at the threshold of the weekend. I'm Joe 487 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: Matthew and Washington. Glad you came along. We'll check in 488 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: on the markets and get an update on traffic for 489 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: you as we all try to get home here. I'm 490 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg Sound 491 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: On with Joe Matthew on Bloombird Radio. So does Joe 492 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: Biden make a hail Mary in the lane Duck on 493 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: paid sick leave. You already promised an assault weapons band 494 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: would be reinstated at least at some point, not necessarily 495 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: this month, but the window could be closing for this 496 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: as well. We reassemble the panel here, Jeanie Schanzano and 497 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: Rick Davis are with us as we pile into the weekend, 498 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: and Genie, I don't know your thoughts on this, but 499 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: the list just seems to keep getting longer here and 500 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: the present. Last couple of as is he signs this, uh, 501 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: this rail workers bill prevents the strike. That's a good thing. 502 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: But he's taken a lot of flak, particularly from the 503 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: left wing of his party, the progressive wing of his party, 504 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to paid sick leave that was supposed 505 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: to be in bill back better right, We're gonna try 506 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: to get this back again now, you know, I think 507 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: he can try to push for it. I doubt it happens. 508 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: They have so much on their plate already in the 509 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: lame Duck. And you know, I know he's getting a 510 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of criticism, but he also should get a lot 511 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: of positive thoughts. Imagine our conversation today if we were 512 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: headed towards a railroad strike and he can take credit 513 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: for helping to avert that. Yes, they do deserve the 514 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: paid sick leave, that's clear and most people agree on that. 515 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: But Joe Biden had to take the tough action of 516 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: averting this strike. Is that because because he called Congress, 517 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: I mean Congress would say no, we did it. Actually, 518 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: he couldn't do it without us Rick Davis, Yeah, I 519 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: mean he failed in his efforts, you know, with his 520 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: cabinet members to try and get a deal with the 521 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: with the unions in the in the railroads, and he 522 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: had to leave it up to the to the Congress. 523 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: He couldn't get it done. And the reality is, uh, 524 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: the unions might have been better off with a negotiated 525 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: settlement with the unions or with the railroads. So who knows. Uh, 526 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: they only fell eight votes short in the Senate to 527 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: get sixty votes that you need for the the paid 528 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: leave and so uh, you know, it wouldn't surprise me 529 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: that there's not another attempt to try and fix that, 530 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: because it really is pretty egregious and there and and 531 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: as you said in the last segment, you know, nobody's 532 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: talking about Norfolk, Southern, cs X, Union, Pacific and BNSF 533 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: four unions or four railroads that control of all the 534 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: rail activity in the country, and they're the ones who 535 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: were saying no, we're not gonna pay you. Yes, So 536 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: what is that, Genie? How come Bernie Sanders and I 537 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: know he said more about this than most and other 538 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: progressive Democrats aren't up there with the the big easels 539 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: on the Senate floor, the logos of these companies, the 540 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: phone numbers to leave a message for their CEOs. Well, 541 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, we may see some of that. They haven't 542 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: been doing it enough. We have heard Joe Biden do 543 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: this in other sectors. We may hear him do this, 544 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: but they're reality is he is the President of the 545 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: United States. He needed to make sure he did bring 546 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: them to the table. They couldn't get it past those 547 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: four the twelve unions, so he did have to turn 548 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: to Congress, but rightly so. And he deserves credit for 549 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: doing that, and so does his team because imagine if 550 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: they didn't turn to Congress where we would be right now. 551 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think it was a pretty good week for 552 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden all said and done. It's it's just kind 553 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: of ironic, I guess, rick that he ends up at 554 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: the ib W one oh three doing a call panel 555 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: for Raphael WARNOCKX and night up in Boston where he's 556 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: holding another fundraiser later. Uh that you know, most normal 557 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: people can't get into. But you know, what was the 558 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: mood you wonder when he walked in that room today 559 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: after telling more than a hundred rail workers they're not 560 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: allowed to strike. Yeah, irony is the partner of politics. 561 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it happens all the time. And uh, this 562 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: is pretty ironic that he would have just gone through 563 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: this process and then said, okay, but we need you 564 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: this time around again. Yeah. But look, I mean the 565 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: options aren't great, right, I mean, do you really want 566 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: to have herschel Walker, you know, represent your union interests? 567 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean anytime option in either case, 568 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: You're right exactly. So, um uh, it'll be interesting to 569 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: see how this resolves itself. But look, the good news is, 570 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: and Jennie's right, we don't have a rail strike going 571 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: into the holidays that would affect the economy, our ability 572 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: to get goods and services delivered, and and that's a 573 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: good thing all around. Well, it's just about what an 574 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: hour and a half up the road from the ib 575 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: E W there in Dorchester, a place we like to 576 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: call match Vegas. That is in our hearts today as 577 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: we consider a world which it is not the first 578 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: in the nation primary state that of course would be 579 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, but we all pile into Match Vegas to 580 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: cover it. Manchester, New Hampshire, where the candidates are, the pundits, 581 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: the press. It's almost a festival that happens there every 582 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: four years. It's when I know both of you have 583 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time at I've been lucky to 584 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: do a few primaries, and President Biden says that day 585 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: is over. It's too small, it's too white, and it's 586 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: it's not going to be first in line anymore. He's 587 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: he's gone to the Democratic National Committee with a new 588 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: calendar that would put South Carolina up first, and then 589 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: that would be followed by some of Iowa's nowhere to 590 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: be seen in this, by the way, And he doesn't 591 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: even like the idea of a caucus. Rick, you know 592 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: these states really well, You've run presidential campaigns in them. 593 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: How does this change? First of all, does that really happen? 594 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean New Hampshire has like a state constitution that says, 595 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: no matter when the first primary is, we will go 596 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: before it. We will always be first. How does he 597 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: change this? I'm thinking Christmas in Manchester, right, Yeah, we 598 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: had New Year's even Manchester in two thousand and eight 599 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: because they kept moving up. Um. Look, I mean as 600 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: you say it's a it's a it's a constitutional right 601 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: to be first in in New Hampshire. Nobody else has that. 602 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: I have to give my bias to New Hampshire. I 603 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: love New Hampshire. They love John McCain, and they love 604 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: John McCain and and and a lot of other campaigns 605 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: have survived that I've worked on because of those very 606 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: well informed voters of New Hampshire. Um. That being said, 607 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: this is what quite a trick, right one. Uh. Normally 608 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: these kinds of things are vetted out in you know, 609 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: the the d n c S committees. They they have 610 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: a study, they appoint smart people to analyze it. And 611 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: none of that happened here. It was it is what 612 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: the president wants, and this is what the president because 613 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: those are the states that he won, right that, those 614 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: are the states that made his campaign real. Yeah. Look, 615 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: arguably you can think, well, he's running again and he's 616 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: just gonna cook the books, right, He's just gonna have 617 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: a primary that is only the states you know that 618 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: he does well in and and and and what's interesting 619 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: is there's very little of that reporting. I mean, the 620 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: poor New Hampshires are getting thrown under the bus. This 621 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: is a power grab by sitting president to basically dictate 622 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: the rules of the game, uh to his own party. 623 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: And and like hardly anybody's pushing back. I'm stunned by it. Frankly, 624 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: I can't imagine if this were Trump rearranging the primary 625 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: schedule for or he and right now, I mean, people 626 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: would be going crazy. But they don't have to accept this, 627 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: right Jeannie. Is there a world in which they're they're 628 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: doing It's like the Rules Committee today and tomorrow and 629 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: then the whole the full d n C votes on this. 630 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: What if they just say no, you know, it's unlikely. 631 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: It is good to be the head of the party. 632 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: He is the head of the party. He is taking 633 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: his revenge clearly on Iowa that killed him in a 634 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: d A O eight and twenty. He doesn't want to 635 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: do it. And let's not forget. You know, we were 636 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: out in Iowa and you know how many days it 637 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: took twenty four days for them to count the vote 638 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: last time around. Um, you know they they even they 639 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: have to admit it was a disaster out there for 640 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: that cock. Well you have to take it out of 641 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: New Hampshire for well, you know, listen, he wants to 642 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: get to South Carolina and do some payback. But the 643 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: reality is, let's not forget Iowa and New Hampshire are 644 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: not diverse states. They are not racially ethnically diverse, they're 645 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: not economically diverse. And that is the point the President 646 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: is making. Two Democrats also, let's also forget Iowa New 647 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Hampshire have pushed the Democratic Party towards the progressive win. 648 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: They want to move it back to the center, more 649 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: to the establishment ground, and I think both parties would 650 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: be well served by doing that. You know, who knows 651 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: if Republicans follow suit, But that is an important point 652 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: they are not making publicly, but should be made privately. 653 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: And it is a real concern because you nominate a 654 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: far left candidate, you lose the general election, and they 655 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: don't want to lose. It's a really interesting consideration here, Rick, 656 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: what if could we be in a world By the way, 657 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: the Republicans already signed off on their calendar. Does that 658 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: mean we're in a world in which we were going 659 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: to Manchester twice there's two different primary days. Yeah. I 660 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: don't even know how you reconcile that. And you're right, 661 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: Republicans are going to go to Manchester. They're probably gonna 662 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: go to Iowa, although I do side with Jennie on 663 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: the fact that iowas too screwed up. Maybe the stuff 664 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 1: the Iowa, but the bottom line is that this could 665 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: be the first cycle where you have a distinctly different 666 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: schedule between the Democrats and Republicans. Got money for that stuff, Yeah, exactly. 667 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna really confuse voters, I think when you 668 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: know they're voting in two different places in the same week, 669 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: Republicans at one location and Democrats on another. It's not 670 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: lost on me, Jennie that that the President indicated you 671 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about this is just for four. 672 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: You can you can do whatever you want after that. 673 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: I mean, is this not self serving? Yeah? You know, listen, Joe, 674 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: he might be on the ballot in twenty four. That's 675 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: his concerned. What happens after that. He'll leave it to 676 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: the younger generations and Lendon forget the interesting move with 677 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: Georgia and Michigan there as well. Um. You know, some 678 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: people have been talking about the fact that Michigan, because 679 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: they don't have party registration, you could have Republicans going 680 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: and monkeying around with the Democrats there. I mean, it 681 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: could be a big old mess. I'm for it, I 682 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: love it, but it could be a real, you know, 683 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: a real interesting season if this happens. And also a 684 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: New Hampshire Governor Sanu No, it's going to be curious 685 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: to hear what he does because he's gonna have the 686 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans in his state behind him fighting for 687 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: New Hampshire's first in the nation. Well, that's the great point. 688 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: He already pushed back on this, along with Senator Hassen. 689 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Rick, you know, this is a this is 690 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: part of local industry, right, this is part of the 691 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: New Hampshire economy. Oh yeah, Senator Sheheen, Senator Hassan. The 692 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: Democrats have railed against it. Uh. They sounded just like 693 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: Governor Sanunu, absolutely and they got their talking points right. 694 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: And it is a right to life here. I mean, like, 695 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: this is what New Hampshire is all about. And there 696 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: are really important aspects of New Hampshire campaigns. I mean, uh, 697 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Jennie talked about some of the uh, you know, problems 698 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 1: with it, but like it is one of the very 699 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: few places where voters can actually get to know candidates. 700 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: They're required to have retail politics. There's not a media 701 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: market other than Boston that's big enough to make a 702 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: big impact, and so Canadas have to go. They're sitting 703 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: to diners and talk to voters. We hardly ever see 704 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: that anymore, just big rallies, and nobody goes to a 705 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: big rally well one way or the other, whether it's 706 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: first or second. The three of us are going to 707 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: get a booth at the Red Arrow Diner. That's before 708 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: we go to the Puritan of course in match Vegas. 709 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: That won't that be fun? Jennie Janzano, Rick Davis, great 710 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: talk as always. We're not going to New Hampshire this weekend, 711 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: no sir, We're going to Georgia with special coverage ahead 712 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 1: starts on Monday. The runoff to Raphael Warnock and Herschel Walker. 713 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg on my way to Wana, 714 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: like Jane Way doing matter where the wanna just like 715 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: Jerry where Yeah forgot the one in this time just 716 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: like up