1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleventh to Washington, d C. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Bloomber to Boston, Bloomberg twelve to San Francisco, Bloomberg nine 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: to the country. See is a general one nineteen and 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus appen Bloomberg dot gone. 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: This is taking Stock. Coming up on taking Stock. We're 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: going to take stock of the banking industry and the 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: financial business all in the Midwest. We're gonna be speaking 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: with the chairman, the president, and the chief executive officer 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: of U m B Financial Corporation. They're based in Kansas City. 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: I sure want to know what they think about the 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: FED getting ready to raise interest rates in June, potentially 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: what it means for their bottom line. Well, let's get 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: to Charlie Pellocky's in the Bloomberg news room with his 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: latest business flash. And I think you very much, Kathleen, 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: thank you, Phim the Dawin s and Pierre lower Nan 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Stack is higher on this Fed Minutes Wednesday. We are 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: brought to you by National Realty Returns on cash and 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: rented real estate. Find them at n r i A 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: dot net Stocks declined SMP five hundred index heading for 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: US seven week low, Federal reserve policy makers signaling a 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: willingness to raise borrowing costs in June if the economy 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: continues to improve. Stephen Stanley is chief economist at Amerspirepond Securities. 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: He was our guest this afternoon right here on taking 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: stock ad minutes reiterate that the Fed did not put 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: a lot of stock in the low Q one GDP number. UH. 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: We know from the statement that they were were weighing 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: the strength and labor market conditions as more important than 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: the UH low GDP number. So I think that's and 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: that's certainly fleshed out quite well in the minute. Right now, 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: we've got the tenure down twenty thirty seconds, the old 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: one point eight seven percent, gold down eighteen eighty, the 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: ounce now declining one and a half percent to twelve 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: fifty eight. Crude oil moving Laura as well, giving up 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: earlier gains down one percent, now lower by forty six cents. 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: On West Texas Intermediate crewed eighty five, Brant crewed at 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: sixty two, target falling the most in more than seven years, 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: quarterly sales missing analysts estimates, and the discount chain delivering 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: a disappointing forecast, target down seven and a half percent. Also, 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: while with learnings today Lows had posted first quarter profit 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: the top handless estimates, reinforcing the notion that Americans are 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: still willing to spend on their homes. Loads up three 42 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: point one percent again, SMP down six the trop of 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: three tents of one percent, and at three thirty two 44 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: on Wall Street. Let's take a look at some of 45 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: the other news from around the world on Bloomberg Radio. 46 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Charlie from the Bloomberg News Room. I'm David Garrett. 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: This news update is brought to you by the Jeep 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Grand Cherokee, the most awarded suv ever. The Grand Cherokee 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: continues to raise the bar with its luxurious interior and 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: legendary four by four capability. Drive one at your local 51 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Jeep dealer today. Senator Bernie's Anders is on the campaign 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: trail in California. Today, the Sanders supporter says he's ready 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: to split from the party to back Sanders if Burne 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: doesn't win the nomination. There's already a movement to form 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: another party. Meantime, a recent w B Warn't pole has 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Sanders leading GEOP presumptive nominee Donald Trump by double digits 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. That pole has Hillary Clinton and Trump 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: locked in a tight race. Trump is coming to the 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: financial rescue of former rival Chris Christie and the New 60 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: Jersey Republican Party. They've incurred big debt from the George 61 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Washington Bridge scandal as well as the governor's presidential campaign. Tomorrow, 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: Trump will attend a twenty five thousand dollar per person 63 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: fundraiser for the state GOP, which has incurred legal fees 64 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: responding to legislative subpoenas in the Bridge case. Trump and 65 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Christie will headline the event, along with a separate fundraiser 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: to pay down Christie's campaign debt. Cyber security experts warned 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: lawmakers today hackers are becoming increasingly sophisticated. Speaking at a 68 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: forum today, Director of National Intelligence James Clappers had one 69 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: group in particular poses the biggest threat. Bad cyber actors 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: are using precisely these avenues, the stealer once every day, 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: the Chinese and particular or cleaning us up. Because we 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: know that we're supposed to do these simple things, and 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: yet we don't do them. The NYPD, says one of 74 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: its officers, fatally shot a man today on a busy 75 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: Midtown street. Police say the unidentified forty six year old 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: became belligerent at a food emporium as he tried to 77 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: buy beer and pulled out an eight inch knife when 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: police arrived. It wasn't clear whether the man had a 79 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: history of mental illness or a criminal record. 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Let's take a look at 89 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: the financial industry, specifically the financial industry of one company, 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: you m be Financial, based in Kansas City, Missouri. Shares 91 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: are higher by more than nineteen percent so far this year. 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: They pay a dividend of about one and three quarters 93 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: of a percent and joining us now here in the 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: studio is John Mariner Kemper. He is the chairman, the president, 95 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: and the chief executive And Mike Hagadorn he is vice 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: chairman and executive, vice president and chief financial officer. Gentlemen, 97 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us and coming in today. Uh, Marin, 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I won't begin by just maybe offering you a chance 99 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about a gentleman named our 100 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Crosby Kemper, Jr. So that we can understand the genesis 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: of the bank and United Missouri Bank Shares. How did 102 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: that all happen? Oh? Okay, well, yeah, our Crosby would 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: be my father. He went by Crosby and the R 104 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: was Rufus. By the way, in case you're looking for 105 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: a name for somebody like your dog, he said he Um. 106 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: He was a great guy who's a fantastic banker. UM 107 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: our company on the fourth generation to run our company 108 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: and UM Kansas City Base went public in the eighties. 109 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: UM and uh we made made it past the proverbial 110 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: third generation. Uh. You know, we're companies are supposed to 111 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: fail in the third generation, so we're officially in the 112 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: fourth generation. I've been running the company for since two 113 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: thousand four, and um, you know it's a largely a 114 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: commercial bank. The bank itself so largely commercial across the Midwest. 115 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: We operate in eight states, but about half our income 116 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: comes from fee based businesses, and we have several other 117 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: businesses that really make up our story. So a strong 118 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: commercial bank. We protect our our credit quality through the 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: diversity of our business. So we have a a institutional 120 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: money management business called Scout. We have a fund services 121 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: business where we do all the back office work for 122 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: hedge funds, mutual fund private equity reads UM and that's 123 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: headquartered in Milwaukee. And then we have a healthcare business 124 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: where the sixth largest provider of h S a S 125 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: in the country. That diversity gives us protection and our 126 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: revenue through cycles, and also we believe really allows us 127 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: to protect UM how we lend and and the way 128 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: we run the bank so that we never find ourselves 129 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: reaching because we're a one trick shop reaching for net 130 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: inter sinco. So, Mike, you are president and CEO at 131 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: umb Bank and you're the interim CFO. How are you 132 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: guys doing, How are how is your bottom line, earnings, 133 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: revenues and where you going? Yeah, we had a very 134 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: strong first quarter. We had record card purchase volume. As 135 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: an example, UM our efficiency initiative that we've been talking 136 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: about since the end of the third quarter of last 137 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: year's bearing fruit as well. And so we had a 138 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: very strong on first quarter. And most importantly our balance sheet, 139 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: as men are touched on, one of the things that's 140 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: important to us is being able to be in a 141 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: position where we do not have to make all of 142 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: our revenue off the spread side of the business, and 143 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: so fees become very important to us UH, and our 144 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: balance sheet has grown quite a bit. Our loan growth 145 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: over the first quarter of was up and on organic 146 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: basis was up sixteen percent. So we we feel very 147 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: good about where we're at right now. Mike, can you 148 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: speak at all about what you're seeing regarding the energy 149 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: industry in some of the states in which you operate, 150 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: for example, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Texas. Yeah, most importantly probably Oklahoma. 151 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: In Texas, UM three point three percent of our total 152 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: loan book is in energy related credits, and as we 153 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: disclosed in the first quarter, UH we have reserves over 154 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: that of three point one percent UM and on criticized 155 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: loans we have almost twelve percent reserved against us, So 156 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: we feel very good about the energy holdings that we 157 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: have and and even if we did have some hiccups there, 158 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: we feel good about the reserves we have against it 159 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: and don't have as much exposure to the upstream side 160 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: of the business as other players might as well. So, 161 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: fourth generation Mariner Camper, where do you want to take 162 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: the bank next? What is your big dream vision challenge? Well, 163 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think we're on the right path as 164 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: it is today. Our challenge so we grow about a 165 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: billion The bank itself grows about a billion dollars a 166 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: year on its own without him and a activity, and 167 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: so we'll continue to grow. Our challenge as a company 168 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: will be to maintain access to management, how nimble we are, 169 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: how responsive we are, which is sort of built who 170 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: we are. So our our challenge over time will do 171 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: we make sure that we can rely on more people, 172 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: uh spread spread accountability and trust across a bigger part 173 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: of our population, to continue to execute the same level 174 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: of service as we get bigger to either of you 175 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: have any thoughts on the changes in which banks are 176 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: able to finance themselves now, because preferred securities, I mean, 177 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: that's went sort of away with the financial crisis. All right, Well, 178 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: I think you know, each each organization has got a 179 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: different story. I think is long my opinion, as long 180 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: as the the institution has a story. Uh, the capital 181 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: access is still pretty robust. Um. Money seems to be 182 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: available and cheap and um, and then again depending on 183 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: whether you're using your currency. So we have a strong currency, 184 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: so we've we've been using our own currency to to 185 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: drive our activity. So I don't see that really being 186 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: a challenge unless you're unless you're broken. If you're broken, 187 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: you've got all sorts of issues. Well, Maynard Camper, thank 188 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: you so very much for joining US Chairman, President, CEO, 189 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: U and B Financial Corporation along with Mike Hagitor and 190 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: President CEO, chief financial Officer on an interim basis for 191 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: umb Bank. This is Bloomberg Radio, coming up on taking stock, 192 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: a look at range bound trading in the stock market, 193 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: digesting the alphabet soup of Zerpe and tarp while also 194 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: tell you about dragons and swans. Next