WEBVTT - The Spirited Actor - Phyillicia Bishop 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.320 Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.480 Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.640 TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.240 a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:19.440 Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:24.479 I auditioned every rapper from biggiees Balls to Tupac, and 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.240 I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.640 transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:37.440 Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.159 Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:45.120 also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.760 I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director, 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.360 I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.840 acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:54.480 that room. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.000 Now. I know, I know actors want to get the job. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:00:59.319 I get that, but. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:04.440 Being remembered by casting director that is powerful. And now 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.200 it's time for meditation of the day. The struggle, like 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:15.640 life itself, should be joyful. Miriam Miranda, I just want 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.440 to say those people and I know I'm coming strong 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.919 today because I feel it in my spirit. The struggle 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:28.720 is not set up for you to feel bad. The 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.560 struggle is not set up for you to think that 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:36.759 it's impossible or that you're not enough. The quote unquote 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.400 struggle is set up for you to reintroduce you to 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.479 the truth of who you are. And you are powerful, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:49.840 you are mighty. You can make possible out of impossible. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:55.400 You can make a way. This too shall pass. Understand 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:00.320 that nothing is being dubbe to you, It's being done 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:07.640 through you. And as you reflect on our guests today 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:14.200 Felicia Bishop, understand that she took an idea, she took 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.880 a thought, she took something that was God given to her, 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.080 and she made a way. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.000 She held the vision and today. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:29.560 She has created an award winning series that is going 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.720 to sell, that is going to be streaming, and all 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.200 of you will have the joy of experiencing it. 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:38.239 Today. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:44.919 I will not allow the words struggle to deflect, distract, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:50.160 or disturb my groove. Before we get started, I like 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.400 to remind everyone to go to Krackle network to use 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.560 seasons one and two of my show Inside the Black 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.200 Box that I co host with the Great Emmy Award 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:06.960 winning Joe Morton look out for news on season three. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:12.359 Soon Welcome to the Spirited Action Podcast with me Tracy Moore. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:20.359 That was a loving, a very very loving exhale. For 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.440 those of you who know me, you know when I 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.200 have someone really special and I take my time in 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.160 my introduction because I do have to acknowledge them. I 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.399 don't even know, but when she comes on, we'll ask 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.840 her how many years, But I'm going to gauge at 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.960 least fifteen because my son was really little when she 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.240 met him. Well not little, but he's a grown man now. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:52.080 This woman, our guest, Felicia Bishop, was introduced to me 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.960 by my next door neighbor Larry, and he was like, Tracy, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:57.280 I want you to meet this actors. 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:58.320 She's a young woman. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.680 You know she's coming into the business, and I also 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.720 want you to mentor her, like whatever you're going to 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.800 give her or whatever. I said, okay, cool, because I 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.280 love Larry and Stacy, and he gave her my number. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.200 I can't remember where we met, but I know we 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.920 met up to talk and go over things, et cetera. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.280 I fell in love with her when I met her. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.280 First of all, I think we got the same color eyes. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:33.080 Okay, wait, all right, sorry, But her spirit, her passion, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.640 her joy, I have never, ever, ever, and I'm not 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.440 around her twenty four hours to say, but I have 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.760 known her for a very long time. I've never seen 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.000 her drag, energy, sad. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.640 I've seen you sometuf on Instagram, but I know her 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.440 as joyous, glorious, joyous. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:56.800 Right, She's beyond talented. I had an opportunity a couple 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.640 of years ago to direct a music video. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.240 Felicia was the first person when I thought of the scenario, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:02.479 I was like, I'm want flee shit. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.240 She gonna be grated, right. I have known this woman. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.840 I continue to support her, and let me tell you 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:14.479 why I'm doing mad backflips with a kool Aid smile. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.279 Felicia's one of those actors that took her career in 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:24.240 her own hands, and she decided she had a great idea, 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.320 and she decided she was going to write that that idea, 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.960 produce that idea, direct that idea, cats that idea. Whatever 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.400 she needed to do to get in a New York 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.520 minute on, she did it. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.400 And through that show, she has given opportunities to spirit 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:47.280 an actor alumni. She has created just great platforms for people, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:48.040 and I. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.720 Can't wait until I get an two directed episode, because 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.160 she did ask me if the ric full way it 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.000 happened was I had to do something new, but Eway, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:06:01.440 I love her. Please stand up for my friend, my colleague, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:03.640 Felicia Bischa. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.360 Thank you, Tracy. That was like the best introduction I've 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:12.159 ever gotten. I'm so glad to be here. Thank you 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:12.839 for having me. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.520 Okay, we kind of have the same color eyes. They're 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:21.359 not exactly, but I love her eyes. I love's eyes, Felicia. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.000 When I tell you, I am so happy to have 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:28.920 you on this podcast and give you this platform because 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:33.400 I saw your work ethic from day one. Had no 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.880 idea we were going to land here, but I was like, listen, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.080 keep her close because you might need Dad's Kokua job. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.719 And I did. I was like, Felicia, if you ever 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.680 need a director full episode up here. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.679 For you sometime? Yes, No, for sure, it's coming. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:51.200 It's coming. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.200 I know that the dates in the line for us 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.480 that time, but it's gonna come. It's gonna come. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.000 I believe it too. I'm not going anywhere, and I 0:06:58.160 --> 0:06:59.400 love the show. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.080 First, let's start at the beginning, Felicia, because I believe. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.200 That this show is going to be so. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:15.280 Incredibly inspirational to actors because you did it. So starting out, 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.320 let's go from the beginning. Yes, you woke up one 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.760 morning and you said I choose acting or did acting 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:21.360 choose you? 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.800 I think acting chose me. If I want to start 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.200 from the beginning. My mom, Yes, I was always like 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.000 into dance and doing like, of course, creative things. I 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.440 grew up in Brooklyn, but it wasn't until I really 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.760 got to college. I was in a class and I 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.240 was voicing my opinion and the professor at the time, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.360 I didn't know he was the head of the theater department. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.720 I thought he was just a professor. And he was like, stay, 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:43.840 I have to class. I have to talk to you. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.480 And I was like, oh no, I'm ruffle Feathers again. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.600 And he was like, no, I need you to audition 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.400 for the play. And I was like, oh, that's not 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.120 my major. My major at the time was communications broadcasting. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:56.000 I want to tell. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.720 You like a talk show host. And he was like, no, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.880 I need you to audition for this, like this role 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.440 is for you and I was like no. And literally 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.640 the night before I changed my mind. My roommate helped 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.000 me to say just do it, and of course I 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.400 got the part, and then I was in every I 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.320 didn't change my major though, but I was in every 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.280 play after and that's what basically I was like, Oh, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.960 this is something I want to do, so I definitely 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:18.600 shows me. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:24.960 So when you decided to embark in this career, like 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.520 because I'm gonna start with Larry, how did how did 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:31.640 you find out about me? 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.439 Or was it what Larry said you should meet my 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.320 next door neighbor because I didn't know that backstory. 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.000 So my whole life has been whatever survival job I 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.320 have has to connect to like my creativity. So at 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.680 the time BMW in Manhattan was in the building of 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.160 and I think they might still be there. It was 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.760 like NBC or something like that, like we're upstairs. I 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.800 was like, oh, I'm want to work here because in 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.559 my head I was like still on my broadcasting acting. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.400 I'm like someone's gonna see me. Larry used to walk 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.480 past the desk all the time for when customers would 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.839 need his help, and one time we just were talking 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.760 and he was like, you don't look like you belong here, 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.960 Like what do you really do? And that's when I 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.800 was like, I'm actually I want to be an actress. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.800 And he was like, there's somebody you have to meet. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.040 He was like, her name is Tracy Da Da Da. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.040 He gave me the number and he was like, you 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.280 have to Literally that day. I didn't waste any time. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:23.200 I was like, and we ended up. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:23.640 You're right. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.640 I don't remember where the coffee shop was, but it 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.720 was a coffee shop and broke yes and we met 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.200 and we sat and we talked and then I was like, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.360 whatever you need help with, I can help because I 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.360 just want to learn. And that was basically the backstory. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.400 But it was so funny because Larry wasn't someone from 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.199 NBC or even from being he has his own company. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.000 He was just there. So it was just like that's 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:45.960 why it's very important to talk to people you know, 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.720 and like really saying you never know, you never know? 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:56.320 Yeah, I just knew, and now, like I mean over 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.160 thirty years in casting, Like you know, when people say, 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.040 how do you know? At this point in my life, 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.920 I just know, and you can take my word for 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.360 it or not, but at this point I just knew, 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.320 and I knew sitting down with you and I was 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.000 just like trying to figure it out, like how we 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:10.800 could work together. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:12.360 I just thought, like. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.040 Everything I'm doing, everything that happens, I'm just going to 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.400 call you, right, So I do Urban World, I'm going 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.600 to call you. Yes, let me tell you something audience 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.600 every year for the past almost thirty years now, because 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.600 I was one of the first people to start Urban 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:33.360 World with Stacy Spikes when he started it, and at 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:38.079 that time, the readings that we did, the actors actually 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.560 sat on stage and chairs. They had podiums to put 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.240 their books and they just sat there and read. And 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.680 so that Stacy was like, you know, Tracy, you could 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.600 you know, form it, you. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:50.880 Know, structured it however you want. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.280 So at first the first two readings, I was like, yeah, 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.439 it kind of stiff, right, And I was like. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.920 Well, if you guys are going to perform, let's perform, like, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.079 get rid of the chairs, get rid of the podium 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.800 sots to a stage reading. And that's how it evolved 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:04.280 into that. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.360 So I remember putting a bookmark in my head like 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:13.120 I'm a cast Felicia in a stage reading and a 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:13.719 couple right. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.400 I did a couple of books I did, but the 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.920 one that I really liked that you did was it Binga. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:27.280 Did you do Binga? I think because the celebrity. 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.240 I was gonna say it was with John David Washington, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.440 John David Washington. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.840 That so that was Binga, because you know who else 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:36.440 was there, Miles Tony Award winning Miles Fross. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.160 Because Miles with Binga. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.480 Yes, yes, yes, yes, and ladies and gentlemen. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.800 This is all before these people. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.440 Got well, John David Washington was known, Binga was known, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.200 but no one knew Miles Ross at that time. And 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.800 Miles didn't even have a bonologue to perform for Robbie 0:11:54.800 --> 0:12:00.600 Reid because after so what happened you got is that 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.440 after the reading, I moderate the Q and A with 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:05.720 the writers, and. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.360 Then after that BT sponsors this event. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:13.200 During that time Robbie read, she would set aside an 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.560 hour for all of the cast and they could do 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.480 a monologue in front of her. At that time, when 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.720 Felicia performed, she was doing the Soul Train TV show. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.719 She was looking for people. She had told you guys. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.880 Right, And I sat Miles right next to Robbie and 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.720 I said, Miles, tell her I don't have a monologue, 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:32.960 but I can see right. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:35.760 We laugh about that to this day. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.120 But every opportunity that I could find to bring Felicia 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.720 or be a part of. Like that's how I felt 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:51.320 our connection. And then when she decided to write her show, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.800 her award winning show, Ladies and Gentlemen, I want her 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:54.839 to tell you about. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:59.320 That, I was like, do it. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.000 This is where you, guys, take your career in your 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:08.079 own hands, because when Felicia sells this show and it's streaming, 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.840 you guys, nobody can do this show, Felicia. I mean, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.840 of course, the powers to be are gonna intervene. Okay, 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:21.240 like inside the black Box. However, this was your brainchild. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.000 Nobody knows this show but. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:24.440 You, and they need you. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.920 They need you, but this is the kicker. They know 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:32.840 that you don't need them because you didn't. They They're like, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.040 we better jump off Felicia because if we don't, she 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.120 don't do it anyway, and then we really not gonna. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:38.240 Be a part. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.480 So I just want to I want you to take 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.120 our audience through this journey. 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:47.560 How you were inspired to you being on Red Carpet. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.599 I think it was two weeks ago I saw on Instagram. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.880 Yes, well now yes it's coming up on the second week. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.040 Yes, okay, see yeah, because it's still fresh. I still 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.000 got the pictures coming up, so good, so tell us 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.520 that journey because you're going to inspire other actors here. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.360 So, first of all, I always loved writing, but it 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.599 wasn't until I was in because Tracy didn't tell you 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.200 guys this. But she also teaches an amazing spirited actor 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.640 class that I was also always a part of. But 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.640 in that class there were I believe one of our 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.560 homework exercise was to write a scene. Tracy also likes 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.640 us to use all of our tools like write a scene. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.040 If you want to act, you also need to know 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.080 the behind scenes. And the scene that I wrote was 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.440 I believe it was about a couple, but very simple. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.920 But that's what really kicked up my Oh, I can 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.400 write a script because before I used to write in 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:43.200 book format novels, which is totally different. And then during COVID, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.840 as we know, everything's shut down, there were no auditions, nothing, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.200 and a couple of my active friends like Felicia, well, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.400 you're the writer, so write us some stuff and we 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.640 can try to see if we can film it. So 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.000 that's really how in a New York Minute started because 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.320 it was like, Okay, how can I write this, what 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.480 can we do using our own apart mints, our own resources, 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.800 our own locations, so that we can get something down. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.440 So during this time period, when we get back in 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.040 front of cast and they're not like, well, what have 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.040 you been doing? Like you know, like what have you 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.960 been doing, we can show you what we've been doing. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.880 So that's what really started in a New York minute, 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.600 And then as I got deeper into the writing, the 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:24.600 story really encompasses the African American and Latino community and 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:29.120 how we don't take therapy seriously and how it's something 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.480 that a lot of men don't really speak about. And 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.400 I wanted to shed a light on that I have brothers, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.880 but also there are a lot of times in the 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.040 era that we grew up, boys were taught be tough, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.480 stop crying what you're crying for, don't do this, And 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.600 I wanted to show that these are now the men 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.640 that we have, and it's like it's harder for them 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.120 to be vulnerable, it's harder for them to express their feelings. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.760 So the show, which was supposed to be at first 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.360 lighthearted about couples and just making it through New York, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.840 it has this bit of seriousness that it's like other 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:02.000 men hopefully can relate to everyone can relate to as 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.920 far as like being in New York and doing the 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.520 struggle and trying to find your dream and it's expensive here. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.120 But then also there's that mental peace, right, how do 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.240 you keep yourself going? How do you motivate yourself to know, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.880 like a bad day is not every day? And that's 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.680 where the whole thing came in. But of course I 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.680 got to use great actors that are currently spirited actors 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:26.240 and alumnis Jalisa, Reina, Sasha, and I feel like keeping 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.920 those connections for who you have, whoever you're like in 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.040 classmate or you encounter, is also very important because we 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:36.240 all have to help each other, right. But yeah, so 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.200 that was go ahead, excuse. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.400 Me, no, no, no, I was just gonna say. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.400 I think you met because at that time I was 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:48.360 also teaching classes next in my house. And I remember 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.200 when you and Sasha got together, maybe you read a 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.320 scene or something together, but after that. 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.280 You guys were locked in as friends. I remember. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:59.200 It's true, so true. We never never split after that. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.600 And Rain is amazing too. The crazy part. I met 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.800 raina through taking another class, initially with Yolanda hunt, which 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.560 you also are. So it was just like so many 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:14.280 things of like just keeping the community together. But after 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.399 going ahead and we shot this throughing COVID and it 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.760 was hard, but we got it through. And then a 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.240 year later we were featured in now the New York 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.480 Latino Film Festival and then also Arts and Arts Festival 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.320 in Calli. And I say all of this because that 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.720 was started twenty twenty one. We're in twenty four. So 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.800 it's just the whole like, don't give up. Everything takes time, 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:36.960 but you just have to stick to it. Like you 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.199 can change the course or whatever and the journey, but 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:41.600 that change the end goal. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.320 Right, And you know what I've learned, Felicia, And you know, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.040 my show was eighteen years of holding the vision right 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.440 for Inside the Black Box, and what I learned throughout 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.120 the process at the end of season two. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:03.400 I'm glad that there are these sort of guide rails, 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.400 guide rails, or what they call them the rails. Right. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.080 What I mean is I'm glad that when you're on 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:18.080 a journey pursuing your dream, that it doesn't happen the 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.720 way we want it to happen, right, because ideally, right, 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.360 we're both creators if it happened the. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.480 Way we want to happen, we would be at. 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.480 The network we want, have the choice of actors all 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:30.160 of the titles. 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:30.800 Is that right? 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.000 But that's not the way it rolls in this business. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:38.480 You have to go through the boot camp. That's what 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.720 it is. It's the boot camp. Because listen, ladies and gentlemen. 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:48.359 Right now, Felicia has invested in herself and I'm sure, 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.439 and I pray and I want to be one of 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.159 these people too, but I'm sure people have invested in 0:18:53.240 --> 0:19:00.240 her as well. Right So the financial investment that you 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:05.080 have right now, it's going to be tenfold when someone 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:05.679 buys it for. 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.040 Me, thank you. 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:09.680 Oh oh, no doubt. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.320 And on top of that, on top of the fact 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.320 that it's going to be tenfold, the wisdom and the 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.600 knowledge that Felicia has gained on this journey because I 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:27.239 know she is a researcher, a googler. I know she 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.640 covers all of her duetiligence. I work with her, you guys, 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.520 I know. So what I mean by that is that 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.080 when you get in a position like myself and you're 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.920 talking to these quote unquote powers to be a crackle, 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.480 you're talking to these powers to be who have those 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.240 resumes and TV and stuff, you're neck and ut with them. 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.600 There's no, Well, you don't have the experience you're here. No, no, 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.760 Because I'm gonna tell you when you don't have the money, 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.320 the resources, and all of those things to create and 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:03.440 make something happen the people who have the money, that's 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.600 cute because you could make it happen out enough, Yes, 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.760 and that makes you more powerful, And that, to me 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.439 gives you. Because I kept saying to myself perst season 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.480 of my show, I kept feeling like a little in balance, right, 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.399 like Cracker was here and they were trying to position whatever. 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.360 One day I was in the dress room and I said, 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.320 wait a minute, both of that, well enough. I called 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.240 Jill Morton and asked Jill Morton to be on the 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:28.879 show and be my co host. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:33.240 Right, They didn't, right, gave me such a list. 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.959 So that's why I'm saying that the boot camp is 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.159 not set up to struggle, to make you feel bad, 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.760 to doubt yourself, and all of that is set up 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:43.720 to prepare you for what you're going to deal with 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.560 when you get in the ring with the powers to 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:52.720 be that run this Hollywood and then the budget. If 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.879 you could take twenty dollars and make it one hundred, 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:57.679 imagine when they give. 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:01.199 You that seven eight figure deal, right, what's you going 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:01.480 to do? 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.480 So that's what I feel like because I say this, Felicia, 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.560 because I know what the journey is like. 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.960 I've seen you, We've had conversation, I've seen your show. 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.800 But I'm so happy that regardless of what has gone 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:21.119 on and maybe a camera fill or whatever, you keep going. 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.280 There's nothing in your mindset that's like, I hope this 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.200 she will get picked up, whether. 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.359 You get picked up by Paramount or Pride is gonna 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:31.120 get picked up. 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:33.760