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Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty fives stuck in parts and

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Speaker 1: but what did you expect. It's a podcast called twenty

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Speaker 2: All right, we are in Dallas, Arlington to be specific,

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Speaker 2: where it's the week of the Major League Baseball All

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Speaker 2: Star Game, and it is today.

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Speaker 3: It starts, I guess last night. It started with the.

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Speaker 2: HBCU game, the Futures Game, and then the Celebrity All

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Speaker 2: Star Game softball, which, by the way, you know, if

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Speaker 2: I'm in the celebrity game, they're scraping for celebrities.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest. Let's be honest. They watched too much

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Speaker 3: EXAs yes, big fans too much.

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Speaker 4: St.

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Speaker 3: Louis Cardinals version home.

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Speaker 2: In just a few minutes, we're gonna talk to Ryan Dempster,

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Speaker 2: who was a big.

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Speaker 3: Part of you know, me being a Cups fan.

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Speaker 2: He was super consistent with the Cups picture for nine years.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Dempster's co host of MLB Network's Intentional Talk, so

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Speaker 2: be sure to check that out.

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Speaker 3: And also as far as what he's.

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Speaker 2: Doing here, he's calling the celebrity game that I'm playing,

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Speaker 2: which is gonna be on a whole bunch of things,

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Speaker 2: so by the time you hear this, you won't be

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Speaker 2: able to watch it. So Ryan Dempster coming up just

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Speaker 2: a little bit around the room quickly, and there's one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 4: Oh, I love Ricky Henderson. You got to pick one.

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Speaker 2: But because I felt like it was leading, like I

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Speaker 4: But I even my buddy hit had He told me

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Speaker 4: And Nolan Ryan sent back a autograph picture, and I

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Speaker 4: And so I did it, send a letter off, got enough.

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Speaker 3: Probably never got to him.

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Speaker 3: I hear Ricky is a really great guy.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, Like from anybody that I know that had

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Speaker 3: Like most fun guy around. So I'm sorry didn't.

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Speaker 4: Happen for you, Budy that's all right, man, I'm over

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Speaker 2: Let's go to read read who is your favorite baseball

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Speaker 6: I'd have to say David Ortiz nice m because he

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Speaker 5: I him, man, and.

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Speaker 3: You were also from the Dominican and.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all the above.

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Speaker 3: Goal wasn't a big poppy one day. It was like,

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Speaker 4: What I mean.

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Speaker 2: Kevin no mare Garcia Park. Growing up, he's a cup

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was very upset when he left the Red Sox.

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Speaker 7: I would be up there playing little league and just

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Speaker 5: It was awesome.

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Speaker 3: So off I Ricky favorite baseball player ever.

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Speaker 8: Scott Fletcher Ranger, Texas Rangers, Chicago Cub White Sox played

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Speaker 8: But he is to this day still my favorite athlete

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Speaker 3: I think, do you know him?

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Speaker 4: I do now? I didn't.

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Speaker 8: I mean not so much when I was, you know,

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Speaker 2: Or was he your favorite when you were ten? Or

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Speaker 4: He was? He was always my favorite.

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Speaker 3: It's my favorite.

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Speaker 8: Ryan Dempster now, Scott Fletcher has been my favorite athlete

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Speaker 2: Mine's Mark Grace first basement for the Cubs, number seventeen

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: We've tried every way possible.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I've tried.

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Speaker 3: We can get nothing.

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Speaker 7: It's like he doesn't even exist anymore.

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Speaker 2: But he's also like the the you know, color commentator

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Speaker 2: for the Arizona Diamondback.

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Speaker 3: So he's in media.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that is weird because it's not like he went

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, h my. So that's my official answer

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Speaker 2: Before I pivoted this story, before Mark Grace and probably

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Speaker 2: number two all time would have been Andre Dawson. Who

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Speaker 2: played right field for the Cubs the Big Hawk, and

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Speaker 2: so the jersey that I have here, I'm not wearing it.

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Speaker 3: I have two Cub jerseys with me, which is so

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Speaker 4: You brought two Cubs jerseys. I bought this.

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Speaker 3: I bought this one on the road.

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Speaker 7: I wanted every second since.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an autograph Andre Dawson Cubs jersey that

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Speaker 2: I was gonna wear that jersey that auto Andre Dawson

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Speaker 3: Is that a lame for me to do?

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Speaker 8: Andre Dawson is across the street signing autographs as we speak.

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Speaker 4: What what are we doing? Hey? Wrap it up now?

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Speaker 8: I downloaded the chart game app No, there's no charge.

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Speaker 4: They're all over there signing autographs for free.

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Speaker 8: I believe, I believe so. But yeah, Andre Dawson is

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Speaker 3: Dang, that would be cool. I wish you could get

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Speaker 3: to talk to Andre Dawes, who knew I did.

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Speaker 4: I knew was good.

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Speaker 2: We haven't had he hasn't been on yet, and I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: we're also trying to get other people too. It's not

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Speaker 3: It was awesome. We'll do that now.

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Speaker 2: Then let's talk to Ryan Dempster again. Check out Ryan's show.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Dempster is the co host of MLB Network's Intentional Talk,

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Speaker 2: Get It Walk. Nobody didn't get it?

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Speaker 4: Second, did you get it? I got it?

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Speaker 2: If we got we're all covered and none in.

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Speaker 3: It's all toward read. But Read's like I don't have

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I used to play all the baseball games and he

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but do your top do your mount Rushmore

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Speaker 6: Oh cheez, okay, it would have to be David Ortiz

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Speaker 6: number one. Uh, to be honest, Matt Holliday at number two.

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Speaker 3: Because we went to did you get a ball signed behind?

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Speaker 6: Then I did get a No, No, I didn't, Sad the.

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Speaker 2: Second favorite player of all time and that's who you

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Speaker 2: didn't ask for autograph when you ask everybody else for

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Speaker 6: I definitely wanted to. I had it in my pocket

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Speaker 6: But yeah, so Matt Holliday because I saw him play

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Speaker 5: That was like my first MLB game.

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Speaker 6: I went to, Let's see who else?

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Speaker 2: Mm Babe Ruth?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Gary, to be honest, that's all I got.

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Speaker 3: You got too, I like that. Can you think of

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Speaker 5: I mean Derek Jeter, but every.

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Speaker 3: Gay that's three? Okay, that's Ali Rushman. Okay. Who's playing now?

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Speaker 3: Who's younger than you?

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Speaker 2: Is your fourth favorite players younger than you.

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Speaker 2: in the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame over two thousand strikeouts.

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Speaker 2: Here he is Ryan Dempster. We're here with Ryan Dempster.

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Speaker 4: This is cool.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't wear a Cub jersey on purpose because

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Speaker 4: He's worn this for three days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, non souf if I ran into it any city.

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Speaker 2: We just came from Arizona, so I was like, maybe

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Speaker 2: Cubs fan. So let's just say that ahead of time.

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Speaker 2: This could be a very Cubs oriented interview asking a

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Speaker 2: lot of questions, but softball Ricky is here. Do you

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Speaker 9: Creepy because I mean, maybe you wouldn't want to answer. Okay,

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Speaker 9: mean I longtime Texas Ranger fan. I've had season tickets,

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Speaker 4: Is it would you say that you.

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Speaker 8: Were more or were prone to be more excited playing

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Speaker 8: I mean, you're playing for the Cubs for a team.

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Speaker 4: It's just like I.

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Speaker 5: Think that's like a pretty like fair assessment, like like

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Speaker 5: Texas Ranger for like I'm pretty sure had a necklace

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Speaker 5: this is different. This is different than other places.

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Speaker 3: Not as a joke, No, he was just full of confidence.

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Speaker 2: Let's go at what age did you start to be

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Speaker 5: They told me I had one my fastball, but I

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Speaker 5: five bucks to go to a spring training game, and

442
00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,280
Speaker 5: it's like, my team's got to win, you know, Plus

443
00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,719
Speaker 5: we can bet on it. So it's like, you know,

444
00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,639
Speaker 5: I can't, but you know people can of course. But

445
00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,920
Speaker 5: and so back back then you could kind of get

446
00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,879
Speaker 5: away with having some freedom to hone your craft without

447
00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 5: any anybody, Karen. So I was like, I'm just gonna

448
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,040
Speaker 5: throw a start and just throw splits like the whole game,

449
00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,000
Speaker 5: you know. So it was like, okay, So I probably

450
00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,600
Speaker 5: I threw two or three innings in a spring training game,

451
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,320
Speaker 5: and I say I threw fifty pitches. I betch you

452
00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,320
Speaker 5: I had threw forty split fingerpass paying.

453
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,600
Speaker 3: And even if you're getting crushed.

454
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't. And then I wasn't getting crushed. It was like, oh,

455
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,480
Speaker 5: this is a really really good pitch, you know, and

456
00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 5: it helped me neutralize lefties especially.

457
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,040
Speaker 2: I'll watch a lot of Charlie Huff knuckleball videos, yeah,

458
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,359
Speaker 2: because he's mean, he's six or seventies now and he's

459
00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,119
Speaker 2: still showing these kids how to throw knuckleballs.

460
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,159
Speaker 3: Knuckleball kind of a lost art, you know.

461
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 2: I mean, for me, probably Wakefield was the last guy

462
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,080
Speaker 2: that I saw do it effectively.

463
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,760
Speaker 3: Was he the last guy to do it effectively?

464
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 5: Yeah? He was the last. I mean there was a

465
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 5: couple of guys that came through, like you know, ra.

466
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Speaker 3: A Dickey and right Dicky.

467
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like but like even I mean, wake was

468
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,639
Speaker 5: pitching up till our finished pitching like pretty much you know,

469
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,440
Speaker 5: so like Wake was the the elite after Charlie Huff.

470
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,960
Speaker 2: And I'll show I'll watch Huff just show these kids

471
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 2: how to throw a knuckleball three inches right, And it's

472
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 2: like you throw at three inches and then slowly back

473
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,679
Speaker 2: away from it. So these kids are going to this

474
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,119
Speaker 2: camp and they're learning how to throw knuckleballs. If you

475
00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 2: would have learned to have thrown a knuckleball, could you

476
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,199
Speaker 2: have tried to throw it in the game?

477
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,760
Speaker 3: Did you ever try? Nothing balls at all?

478
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 5: No shot? I don't know what it was. I couldn't

479
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 5: just like it's spun, just came out of my hands

480
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 5: and tumbled, you know. I don't know if it was

481
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,120
Speaker 5: my arm action. You know. I was a big slider guy,

482
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,200
Speaker 5: so it was like always you know, with my wrists,

483
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 5: so it's hard for me to lock my wrist and

484
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 5: not turn it. The minute you go like that, it's

485
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 5: going to just start going to hold your wrist still

486
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 5: is like the most important thing. And I just I

487
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 5: didn't have that in me and never never really tried.

488
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,199
Speaker 5: After that. I'd goop around playing catch, but yeah, it

489
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,160
Speaker 5: was a thing that if I could have I would

490
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 5: have no doubt, Like effective if you can throw for

491
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 5: strikes with throwing.

492
00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,120
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna ask about and not the controversial part

493
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 2: of this, but I was watching a video with Trevor

494
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,399
Speaker 2: Bauer talking about practicing and throwing constantly and then throwing

495
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 2: less during a game, and he's like, if you throw

496
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 2: all the time, you'll be stronger.

497
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 3: Therefore you are won't be sore.

498
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 2: But then also like the Strasburg effect where it's like

499
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: with Strasburg, the one that started limiting how many pitches

500
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 2: a pitcher could throw. Over where do you fall on

501
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 2: how much a pitcher should actually throw? Because I'm listening

502
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 2: to two different guys who have been successful tell me

503
00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 2: two different things.

504
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 5: I tend to lead towards what You'rever's saying. I think

505
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 5: if you think about it, like when we were kids,

506
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 5: and when we were growing up and we were playing baseball,

507
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 5: very few kids got a sore arm. There might have

508
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 5: been one pitcher on the team like, oh he heard

509
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 5: his arm. We played catch all the time. We didn't

510
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 5: need an organized practice, we didn't need an organized game,

511
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 5: we didn't need travel ball, none of that stuff. We

512
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 5: just went and played catch with a bunch of kids

513
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 5: in the park and we just threw and threw and threw,

514
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 5: and we played five hundred up and you played Cherry,

515
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if you were played Cherry

516
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 5: where guy has a bat and then you go out

517
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 5: the outfield the guy you catch the ball in the air,

518
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 5: then you throw it and you try to hit the bat,

519
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 5: you know, and it hits the bat and goes over

520
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 5: the bat and lands on the ground. Now you switch positions,

521
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 5: and I'd play this for well, we're throwing it two

522
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 5: hundred feet, you know, like long toss. I look at

523
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 5: look at all of like the premiere relievers of fifty

524
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 5: last fifty years, all of those guys, all of those closers,

525
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 5: all of those set up guys, all those guys who

526
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 5: had long careers, longevity careers, they all long tossed every

527
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 5: single day. You watch them Like Jose may Man, that dude.

528
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 5: I watched that dude long toss like nobody else ever

529
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 5: in the big leagues. Dude three hundred feet every day

530
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 5: they needed him, he was ready. He never was on

531
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 5: the deal never, you know, And I think that we

532
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 5: we are limiting. We're taking cars, fancy shiny Lamborghinis and

533
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 5: Ferraris and everything, and instead of taking him out for

534
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 5: a ride on the freeway. We're like, just in the

535
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 5: driveway real quick, and then we take it on the freeway. Man,

536
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 5: it broke. That's weird because we asked it to go

537
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty real fast and it hasn't done

538
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty. Like minor leagues let him pitch.

539
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 5: They pitch four innings and they're like, good job, good job.

540
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 5: And then they get to the big leagues and we

541
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 5: have to take them out with no hitters because they're

542
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 5: not extended. Like, don't tell me it doesn't work. It's

543
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 5: a lie. It's a fabricated lie. It works. Steve Carlton

544
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 5: through two hundred and fifty innings for twenty years. Nolan

545
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 5: Ryan threw for twenty seven years in the big leagues,

546
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 5: you know, like and hard and hard. Yeah, he's throwing

547
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 5: one hundred at forty five years old. Like, come on,

548
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 5: it works. We have sat there and thinks that we

549
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 5: can predict at injuries and we can't. Some guys, you know,

550
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 5: they're the reason that they're getting drafted tonight, you know,

551
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 5: and because they're the best young talent in the world.

552
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 5: So like you have Clydesdale's, you have these show ponies,

553
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 5: you know, and don't just walk them around the yard.

554
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 5: Let them run, let them go. Man. I feel like

555
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 5: if I could ever have control, it never would happen

556
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 5: because today and not in today's game, they're not gonna

557
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 5: let an ex player run the minor league system. But

558
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 5: give me the pitchers. I'll develop. I'll build you horses

559
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 5: number ones and number two's and the other guys. Sorry,

560
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 5: if you can't make it, you can't make it. Guess what.

561
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 3: It's hard.

562
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 5: It's the big leagues. There's not another league on the

563
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 5: moon that we can go to play at, not yet anyways.

564
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 5: Elon's working on that. But like you know, it's it's

565
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 5: the truth. So yeah, throw more, you don't get hurt.

566
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 5: It's the truth.

567
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 2: Before I get to the Cups questions and Nolan Ryan

568
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: question since you brought them up, they would talk about

569
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: gunning Nolan Ryan back in the day, still one hundred

570
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: and one oh one. But if it was he was

571
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: gun today, it'd be like one oh seven one oh eight.

572
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: Just at what the guns can do now versus where

573
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: they shot from. You think Nolan Ryan could throw a

574
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Speaker 2: hundred seven hundred.

575
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 5: Eight Yeah, I think, you know, I think outside of

576
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 5: Steve del Kowski's the hardest thrower ever. You know, I

577
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 5: don't know if you know about Steve Delkowski. There's a

578
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 5: left handed pitcher.

579
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: About your size, Well, I mean I'm pretty big.

580
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, little, I mean little?

581
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 5: Well, just how are you? I'm six two? How tall

582
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 5: are you? Six? Okay?

583
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 3: But I feel like I feel like you think he's

584
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: like five eight?

585
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 5: He thought? No, no, no, I thought you. I say

586
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 5: he was under six feet. I thought you were maybe

587
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 5: like five to eleven.

588
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he is.

589
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 5: Okay, you're right. It wasn't a knock on your hand.

590
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 5: I'm just saying.

591
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, but he's ripping like me though,

592
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah he's ripped.

593
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, com clearly Jackie Man. But he would he would

594
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 5: throw games in them. If you look up his minor

595
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 5: league stats, it's pretty amazing. But he was. He was

596
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 5: a guy that was throwing one hundred and seven hundred

597
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 5: eight miles an hour and the and when you talk

598
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 5: to people who watched him pitch, they're like, and he

599
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 5: was left handed with the orioles like he would throw

600
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 5: games nine innings, lose six to four, you know, walk ten,

601
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 5: strikeout seventeen, Like these couldn't hit it. But Nolan Ryan

602
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 5: was the same way it was. You know, guys said

603
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 5: it was his fastball just disappeared, like you know, I

604
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 5: got to see him pitch live when he was later

605
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,239
Speaker 5: in his career, but I never got to see it,

606
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 5: you know, firsthand and stuff like that. But it was different.

607
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 5: It was just it was by you. Like you don't

608
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 5: have the most no hitters, the most one hitters, the

609
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: most two hitters, the most three hitters, strikeout a thousand

610
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 5: more batters than second place. Like I saw a stat

611
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 5: the other day like somebody could strike out, you know,

612
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: two hundred batters a year for twenty years and still

613
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 5: be seventeen hundred strike I was short of Noel Ryant, like,

614
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 5: you don't do that unless you throw harder than everybody else.

615
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 5: And I think he I think he sat at one

616
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 5: hundred and he probably ticked it up to one oh

617
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 5: five one oh six if he needed it, and maybe harder.

618
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 5: Who knows, there's rumors he threw one oh eight, you know,

619
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 5: like I wouldn't doubt it.

620
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're a cub?

621
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Nine years yeah, I mean it's long, yeah, and

622
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 5: post right, so like post playing, I saw THEO brought

623
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 5: me over as a special assistant for the front office,

624
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 5: So really have been with the organization for over twenty years.

625
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, for sure.

626
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: When you go directly played first when you were there, right, Yeah,

627
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: but you you work with him in Florida, am we

628
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: played twelve years together.

629
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Speaker 3: So was he there but a year before or do

630
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 3: you guys go at the.

631
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 5: Same time, same time?

632
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so you didn't. Did you have.

633
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: Anybody there that you already knew when you went to

634
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: Chicago that kind of when you go to an organization

635
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: like that, or do you even need someone to kind

636
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: of tell you about the culture, what the fans are, Like.

637
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 5: No, I knew, and like at that point in my career,

638
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 5: you know, I was I'd been in the big leagues

639
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 5: for five years, six years now, so it was like, oh,

640
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 5: and I knew like I played with Kent Merker in

641
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 5: Cincinnati the year before or two years before that.

642
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: You played them a lot, So you were in Chicago

643
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: a lot.

644
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 5: Too, Yeah, and playing the Cubs and then I, you know,

645
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 5: I knew carry a little bit just across the field,

646
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 5: and it was Paul Bocco and I played together in Florida,

647
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 5: So there was like these little tie ins and I'd

648
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 5: went to Japan with Mike Gremliner and I knew a

649
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 5: few guys and so it was easy. And then just

650
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 5: an easy transition played against Greg Greg could come back.

651
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: And oh four my first year over there, to see

652
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: Dusty Bakers still be successful, I mean, to win with

653
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: another World Series. What was Dusty Baker like as a

654
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: manager then, and then you're still so a part of

655
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball?

656
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: Is he the same Dusty Baker now as he was

657
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: in Yeah?

658
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 5: That's I think That's what I loved about him so

659
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 5: much was he really did care about you the person.

660
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: You know, Like he'd call you up to the office

661
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 5: dust he wants to see and you go in there

662
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 5: and he would just be like, how's everything at home?

663
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 5: Everything good? How's your mom and dad doing? You know,

664
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 5: like to me personally, Like I know some guys that

665
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 5: doesn't matter to them, but for me, that mattered a lot.

666
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a big family guy. You know, I'm tight.

667
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 5: I'm tight with all my guys I went to high

668
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 5: school with. Like that kind of relationship stuff was really important.

669
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 5: So he was really great about that, just like always

670
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 5: like that. And then you know, just just Carrid and

671
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: wanted to win and wanted to do what it meant.

672
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 5: It meant a lot to him, and yeah, just a

673
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: great man. I was really happy for him because it

674
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 5: was like the one thing that was hanging over him

675
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: for the Hall of Fame was, oh, you know, I

676
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 5: didn't won the World Series. I didn't won the World

677
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 5: Series and been closed so many times, and so for

678
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 5: him to finally get it, you know, and to do

679
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 5: it at his age, to show you that experience does matter,

680
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: a little bit of that does matter was really important.

681
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 5: So yeah, really really awesome dude.

682
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: Guys like Carrie Wood and Mark Pryor who came up

683
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 2: and have high expectations but real big success early on.

684
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: What do you think happened to those guys?

685
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 5: I think that well, you know both right, there's there's

686
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: there's the injury factor and I can't even imagine, you know,

687
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 5: Like I'm close with Carrie and for him to strike

688
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 5: out twenty and your six start in the big leagues,

689
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 5: you know, it's like where do you go from there?

690
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: The expectations from a fan base, like every single time

691
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 5: he was taking them ount it was like, you know,

692
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: people in the bleachers with handfuls of K cards because

693
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 5: he's going to strike out twenty again, and it's like, oh, yeah,

694
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 5: good game, man, you only had thirteen today. You know.

695
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 5: It was like striking out thirteen's hard, you know. So

696
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 5: I think he had probably bigger expectations than Mark did.

697
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 5: And and Mark, I mean, everything was going great and

698
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: then he ran over Marcus Giles at second in between

699
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 5: first and second base and landed on his shoulder, and

700
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 5: then I don't think he was just ever the same

701
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: after that. I think he would say the same thing,

702
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: you know, it was hard to kind of come back

703
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 5: from that, started to deal for the first time in

704
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: his life really with any kind of arm issues or

705
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 5: any kind of injuries, and then just not able to

706
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 5: fully come back from it, and then had a surgery

707
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 5: and then just wasn't able to come back from it.

708
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 5: But like, yeah, like you're talking generational talent, like Paul

709
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 5: Skeene's type talent coming in different right, Like like Mark

710
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 5: Durosa tells a great story about carry Wood pitching. He's

711
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 5: with Atlanta in nineteen ninety Sorry, in two thousand and three,

712
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 5: in Game five in Atlanta of the Division Series before

713
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: they went to the NLCS, Chipper Jones goes and hits

714
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 5: in the first inning off carry Wood and de Ro's like,

715
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: you know, I'm super excited. We're in game five, like

716
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 5: I might get a pinch hit but get bad or something.

717
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 5: Chipper punches out against Kerry and then comes in the dugout.

718
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 5: He's putting his helmet in his bad away. He looks

719
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 5: at Dero goes, hey, dude, we're going home today. Like

720
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 5: that's how electric his shit goes, you know, pretty awesome.

721
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: Were there guys that you felt like.

722
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: I love pitching against this guy because our mixture is

723
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: that my mixture usually does better.

724
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: I know other guys will be like, man, this guy's

725
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: gonna crush.

726
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: Me like hit or wise. Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

727
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 5: Like for like it's crazy, Like it's funny how that

728
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: matches up. Like take take a guy like Joe Mauer.

729
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: At one point, Joe was oh for seven with six strikeouts.

730
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: How's that even possible? Right, Like like.

731
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: One of the best hitters, yeah, who never struck out.

732
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: I struck him out three times in a game. He

733
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 5: did that like five times in his career, Like you know,

734
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 5: but then like you know, Fred McGriff just like dragged

735
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 5: me around the room like whatever he wanted. To do

736
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 5: with me. You know, it was like just double in

737
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 5: the gap, double the gap, home run laser, you know.

738
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: Perfect to be, like even arm placement, like where you're

739
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: throwing the ball from where.

740
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 5: I asked him and he said that that for whatever reason,

741
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 5: he's like, you know, like all the guys in the

742
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: team would be like, dudes, don't let him get to

743
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: his slider. His slider's nasty. And he's like, I just

744
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 5: your slider just came right into my bat path and like,

745
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: you know, even like I just saw it out of

746
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: your hand, and some guys just don't pick it up

747
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 5: and some guys do. And you know him, Luis Gonzalez.

748
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: Mostly lefties, not a lot of Righty's kind of raked me.

749
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: Doug Landville hit me pretty good, surprisingly enough, but yeah

750
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: there was there was a few like Barry Bonds never

751
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 5: took me deep, but he went six for ten. Yeah,

752
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: we're in San Francisco. Is a good one. And Barry's

753
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: like in Berry, like prime Berry. You know, he's just

754
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 5: going up to the plate like not even gonna hit

755
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: because nobody's all I think he was walked two hundred

756
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 5: and thirty times or something. And Kevin Malar was my

757
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: teammate at the time, and I'm in San France. I'm

758
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 5: getting ready to go out at the bottom of the

759
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: first sitting and I'm going up the steps and i

760
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 5: just feel my like jersey pull back and I'm like,

761
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: turn around. He goes, you don't got a harrow in

762
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: your ass if you don't find out what you got

763
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 5: against Barry Bonds. I'm want four seam fastballs down the

764
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: middle as hard as you can find out. And I'm like, okay,

765
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 5: so I we did the priority number one. I got

766
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 5: to get the first two guys out, you know. So

767
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 5: I get the first two guys out. Here comes Barry.

768
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: You know.

769
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 5: Doctor J's like, man, Barry Bonds, old place going nuts.

770
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 5: And I'm laying on the mountain. I'm like I look

771
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 5: out left field and I'm like, all right, here we go,

772
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: you know. And I throw the first pitch ninety four

773
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 5: four seams center cut right down the middle, and all

774
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 5: of a sudden, Barry's like, oh, okay, hold on, you're

775
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 5: gonna you wanna play all right, you can do this,

776
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 5: you know. Then I throw another four seam fastball like

777
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: middle away fouls it back, and then I throw an

778
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: O two four seam fastball middle away again like ninety five,

779
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 5: and he tattoos it off the top corner of the

780
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: right field like wall that's up there like every other park.

781
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 5: It's a homer and then it carems for a triple

782
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 5: and I come in and Lar goes Man, you should

783
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: have got your stuff in Mexico, you know, like it

784
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: was just really funny. It was just like the best.

785
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 5: You were facing the best in the moment, and I

786
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: was like, all right, let me find out where my

787
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: stuff plays. And I not not against him. Nobody's good.

788
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: What do you ever have words with depending on who

789
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: was catching you, if you shook him off more than

790
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: once or twice? Was that ever an issue when you

791
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: got back in the dug out or in the clubhouse.

792
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 5: I don't think it was ever an issue. There was

793
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 5: definitely guys who were better to handle it, you know,

794
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: like some guys like you know, coming up right, like

795
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 5: Mike Redman was great, you know, he was really great

796
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 5: about why like more conversation, Charles Johnson like and I

797
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: just didn't think you should go with that pitch, you know.

798
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: And then you had guys like Cooy Hill, who is

799
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 5: a great catcher for us with the Cubs for a

800
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: few years. You know, like as far as like winning

801
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 5: ball games, a dude could frame throw attitude and like

802
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 5: sometimes you're shake and shake it and you just.

803
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: Go just whatever, just throw whatever.

804
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna put any more fingers down, Like what

805
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 5: do you what do you want to throw? Already put

806
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 5: them around. He wants to go back to the fastball,

807
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 5: like throw it.

808
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: You know, how do you feel that communication now with

809
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: electronic communication?

810
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: I don't love it because I like it in the

811
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 5: sense of the speeding up the game and there's lights

812
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: of mountain visits and all those kind of things. I

813
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: just believe that that was part of it. Right, Like

814
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: we've slowly started to take things away from the mental side,

815
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 5: like cards to tell you where to stand. You know,

816
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 5: stand here because it's gonna happen. But although you know,

817
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: maybe on that moment it doesn't, you know, and you

818
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 5: get the tailor made double play ball in the second

819
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 5: basement standing on second base, you know, And I get it.

820
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: I understand the percentages and the data and all that

821
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: kind of stuff, but also like they're all it's all

822
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 5: great on a macro level, but every individual game and

823
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 5: every individual moment in the game is a micro level, right,

824
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: So like we can get to that data however we want.

825
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: We can have enough at bats to say that the

826
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 5: ball is going to hit it hitting the hole. But

827
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 5: like maybe today I got an extra zip on my fastball,

828
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: and so maybe that guy might not, you know, necessarily

829
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: be on time. He might be a little bit late.

830
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: Like Jason Hayward is one of the best in the league.

831
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 5: You watch him play a Shane Victorino when I play

832
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 5: with Vic in Boston, man, like you watch him. I

833
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: told Peter Gammons one time and if you're ever talking

834
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 5: to Peter asking about the story, and he did, and

835
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: he goes it was one of the coolest things is

836
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 5: I go, don't watch the pitcher, don't watch the hit

837
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 5: or nothing. Watch Shane Victoria play rightfield and watch him

838
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 5: move pitch to pitch like a chess game, dude, And

839
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 5: he's like, oh, it's one two, I'm going to take

840
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: three steps into my left so that the little bass

841
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 5: hit doesn't fall in because if if it's a double

842
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 5: in the gap, that's the pitcher's fall. But if it's

843
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 5: if it's a little blue pit that's going to fall

844
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 5: and that's my fault, I should be the one playing

845
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: for the executed pitch, you know. And so you know,

846
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: I think like with the pitch communication, like Sodo and

847
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 5: I would have, we would have innings where we didn't

848
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 5: even use he would use signs, and we never I

849
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: would catch the ball and turn to my left. I

850
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 5: want to fastball away. I catch the ball and like

851
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 5: as I catch it, I just put my hand to

852
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 5: catch it with my glove like this and then really casually.

853
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 5: And that means I want to high fastball, you know.

854
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 3: Like I call it plays some football.

855
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would like catch a ball back and then

856
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 5: just like grab my belt real quick like and just

857
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: move like that. I want to split the hitter doesn't know,

858
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: especially if the hitters looking at the third base coach

859
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 5: or something. Nobody knows. Now, you do all the signs,

860
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: but they don't mean anything, you know, and so then

861
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: they could relay something and be wrong whatever it is. Like,

862
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: And I just think we've taken that away from guys.

863
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 5: You know, we got to do it. We're going to

864
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 5: tell you where a stand, you know, over there. Two steps? Okay,

865
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: back up, Tommy, Okay, come in Tommy, Like, come on, man,

866
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 5: they're girl men. Let him play. Yeah, let them figure

867
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 5: it out, you know, but we can't risk anything going wrong,

868
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 5: you know, and then it falls in and we're like,

869
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: well but yeah, but the card said we should be there,

870
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: so we were there and it didn't go there. So

871
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: at least the data. We played the data. But it's

872
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 5: like sometimes you got to play your heart, your eyes,

873
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 5: your sense, your smell whatever. It is. Like, man, that

874
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 5: guy I saw him last night at the bar and

875
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: he was wrecked. Bro, he is not on a heat.

876
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: That's not dad. There's no data.

877
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 5: No, you can't quantify it, you know.

878
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: Final four questions. So you mentioned Peter Gammon. Would you

879
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: ever finish a start and go watch like baseball tonight?

880
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, watch you if you had a good one,

881
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: or would you avoid it if it was a bad one?

882
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 5: Well, if I came over to the Marlins, so it

883
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: was usually just a box score, you know, we were

884
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 5: on the Highlight reel and the Marlins one today, you know,

885
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 5: like but yeah, no, absolutely, and like I would always

886
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 5: I love that stuff, like even a replay, you know,

887
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 5: just to just to see it and kind of just

888
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 5: especially a good game, right the game, all sports, but

889
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 5: especially baseball, which is a highly built on failure. Like

890
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 5: you're going to fail a lot. You know, name out

891
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: other things in the world where you can fail seventy

892
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: percent of the time and be great, Like it's just

893
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 5: not really realistics. And so when you do have positive

894
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 5: things happen and you can reinforce that in your head

895
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: so you can walk in like Josh Beckett with your

896
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 5: chest boat out and be like, I'm a badass. You know,

897
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 5: I think is really important. You know, not necessarily in

898
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: the moment. I don't love the iPad in the game

899
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: where they let me let me see that, like because

900
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 5: in that moment you won't feel what did I feel

901
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 5: instead of what I see? But like afterwards when I'm

902
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 5: having an ice cool beer on my couch and be like, yeah, I.

903
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Felt like I be like ravage, come on, put a

904
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: up more of a something to beat buddies with them

905
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 2: so they like, put some more of the highlight.

906
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: I finally struck out, Fred McGriff throw that up there.

907
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: You know, Broan, what was your lifestyle like traveling in

908
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: the majors hotels? You know, like, what what would you do?

909
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: There's a lot of downtime.

910
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a I'm a different bird. I will say

911
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: that I think if you talk to guys who played

912
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 5: with me, they can kind of agree. I highly encouraged

913
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 5: fun events, you know. I never said no to an opportunity.

914
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 5: You know, Like Kenny Chesty came into Chicago and he

915
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: was throwing off doing a concert and doing the stretch

916
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. And I popped up

917
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 5: in game in my in my uniform, you know, and

918
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: I into his suite with his dad and him, and

919
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there in my uniform during the game. Yeah,

920
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 5: and he goes, uh say, hey, man, I ke you sing.

921
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 5: I go, well, I don't know what's Ken singing? And

922
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 5: he goes, we sing with me tonight. And I'm like,

923
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 5: at Soldier Field, Sure, So I went out and did

924
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: you know the opening two verses from back where I

925
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 5: come from at Solderfield from fifty seven thousand people Like,

926
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 5: That's how I lived my life always. So if it's

927
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 5: like there's a concert, I'm going, there's a hockey game,

928
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 5: I'm going, you want to practice with the team. Absolutely,

929
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 5: I'm a little bit like you, like you like to

930
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 5: experience all those things and do those things the same way.

931
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 5: At New York City, get off the bus. I didn't

932
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 5: go to my room, gave my bag to the clubhouse.

933
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: Guys had put that in my room. I'll see you later.

934
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 5: I'd go to Times Square till two in the morning,

935
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 5: walk around, experience see things, watch people play three carmonty,

936
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 5: you know, like if there was an event, I'm going

937
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 5: to go if you know. Like sometimes like I remember

938
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 5: David Ross and I being like, you know, walking around

939
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 5: New York three thirty in the morning and eating pizza.

940
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 5: He's like, what are we doing? I go, I don't

941
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 5: know how many times you go to New York three

942
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 5: thirty in the morning. Let's go. It's you know. And

943
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: I see guys like that had a different life, and

944
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 5: that's that's okay. We all have our own path. I

945
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 5: was very much my hotel room was sleeping and that

946
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: was it. I didn't hang out in my hotel room.

947
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 5: I got up golf, they got up and worked out.

948
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: I went paddle board and you know, in Detroit, and

949
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 5: Shelley's like, I'm picking up. We're going paddle board and

950
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 5: like all these different little things. I go out and

951
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 5: stay in Malibu when we're playing in la and go

952
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 5: surf with layered and you do all these things. Because

953
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 5: I just loved I love that. So that was like

954
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 5: how I was, you know, when I was playing my

955
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 5: whole entire career always Yeah.

956
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: Final two questions.

957
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you a question.

958
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 8: I'm very intrigued by the unwritten rules of baseball and

959
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 8: the enforcement of those things. And uh, let's this is

960
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 8: purely hypothetical. Let's say that you know a message has

961
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 8: to be sent to a guy, and maybe it's a

962
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 8: specific player, Like just hypothetically, this is the size of

963
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 8: somebody named Sammy Sos, Like Sammy Sos Yeah, and you

964
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 8: know they're like, hey, you know, Sammy's got to wear one.

965
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 8: I would have been like if I were a picture,

966
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 8: I'd be like, I'm trying it. Hit Craig Gray back it.

967
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: Was like five six, you know, and.

968
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 5: Careful with Walt Weiss though he's a tough guy.

969
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: Really see, I love thinking wrestler.

970
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 8: But like one, what goes through your mind when it's like, okay,

971
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 8: you were wanting me to face down a monster in

972
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 8: that scenario? And h two does maybe who's catching or

973
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 8: playing third base factor into your confidence where it's like tex,

974
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 8: I've got Michael Remember Michael Barrett.

975
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 4: That guy was a tough dude.

976
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 8: Yep, I've been like I would be like, okay, I'll

977
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 8: but you know, like Michael's there, I probably feel a

978
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 8: lot better about it. I mean, like, how tell me

979
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 8: how what a picture is thinking? And like is there

980
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 8: a strategy? Like I feel a lot better about it

981
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 8: because he's catching that kind.

982
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 5: Of Yeah, I think. I think generally, you just know

983
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 5: that you're already at an advantage, right, you're pretty much,

984
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 5: let's just call it. You have five friends closer than

985
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 5: the other guys, So like there is a security in that, right,

986
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 5: Like if he charges the mound, my infielders and my

987
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: catcher are all going to get there before anybody else

988
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 5: on his team. Maybe the ion deck can get out

989
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 5: there fast enough. And so in it coming up in

990
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 5: my era, it was a thing. It was a send

991
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: a message like you know, you know do this you

992
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 5: like I got. I got thrown out of one game

993
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 5: in my entire career for retaliation. I hit Travis Fryman

994
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 5: after Mike Lowell got drilled pretty hard, and I got

995
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 5: thrown out for that is the only time. But I

996
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 5: never really I never really worried about it personally, Like

997
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: even the biggest guys like this most scared I ever

998
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: had to Retell. He was at it moyses Loo when

999
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 5: I was with the Cincinnati Reds and Jason LaRue owned

1000
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: Mark Pryor like just for whatever reason, just hit him everywhere.

1001
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 5: And then Mark Pryor was throwing at his head. And

1002
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, and Jason's my catcher. And so I get

1003
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 5: two out and I kind of like, you know, somebody

1004
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 5: said something that dug out, like that's bullcrap. I said,

1005
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 5: I got this and I got two out and here

1006
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 5: comes moyes Lou and like this dude is like the toughest,

1007
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 5: like you know, and I'm like, oh, man, god, we

1008
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: go here we go. Don't hit him above the belt.

1009
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 5: Don't hit him above the belt. And I and and

1010
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 5: this is how pro he is. I ninety five right

1011
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 5: to the quad and he just bent down, took off

1012
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 5: his shin guard and went to first base. Never looked

1013
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 5: out there. I never looked at him, you know, And

1014
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: in my eyes, it was like, man, I already respected

1015
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 5: this guy. Now I really respect him because he knows

1016
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 5: what's going on. You know. I think it's changed a lot.

1017
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 5: It's not a thing anymore. These guys are too friendly

1018
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 5: with each other, not too friendly at like meaning like

1019
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 5: they all know each other.

1020
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: They grow up and they play together.

1021
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: I have travel ball everywhere there on TMSA perfect games.

1022
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 5: They're doing all these things so they don't and then

1023
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 5: like rarely do you ever. Even in my career, I

1024
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 5: think I hit one hundred guys or roughly around hundred guys.

1025
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 5: I think probably five of them are on purpose. You know,

1026
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: there's not a lot that are on purpose. Some of

1027
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 5: them might be like get off the plate, but like

1028
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 5: I'm not like I'm trying to hit this guy. But

1029
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 5: you always have like the back pocket, like you know

1030
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: when you're when you know you're you know, when I

1031
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 5: directly at first base and their dugout is over there,

1032
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 5: like on first baseline, I'm like, I'm good, yeah, you know,

1033
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 5: like I'm fine, he's got he's got my back.

1034
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Last baseball question, when you do your musical Mount Rushmore

1035
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: a favorite artists ever lowering the mound. That's the talk

1036
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: now because I would have batted.

1037
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: The whole league is batting like two thirty to forty

1038
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: depending on what week you look at it.

1039
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 5: Thoughts, Uh have George Brett to tell a few more

1040
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 5: kids how to hit and teach that way.

1041
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: I listen to George Brett tell like talk about heating.

1042
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 3: It's great, like planes, yeah, big planes guy, yeah, count

1043
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: count guy.

1044
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: Like I think there's a little bit of a lost

1045
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 5: art in that. Like it's fine. Your three A swings

1046
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: are great, you know, like put an a swing on it,

1047
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: three A swings, get three swings in. But like it

1048
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 5: also is really nice to leave the game one to nothing.

1049
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 5: So if that means getting a runner over from second

1050
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: base so that you know, you know who likes hitting

1051
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 5: with a runner on third and one out the guy

1052
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 5: behind you, you know, your teammate because now I guess

1053
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 5: they just fly out, you know, guy in fields back,

1054
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 5: just put the ball in play. You really can't put

1055
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 5: the ball in play. You can't do that. You're the

1056
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 5: best hitters in the world and you can't. I get it.

1057
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 5: Dudes are throwing hard, but like you can't shorten up

1058
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 5: and just play Pepper to the second basement who's played

1059
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 5: all the way back and get an RBI. Your average

1060
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 5: goes like this all year, man, those are RBIs only

1061
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 5: go like that looks really good with one hundred of

1062
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: them at the end of the year.

1063
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: So don't lower the mount.

1064
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: Don't lower the mount. I think that's a cop out

1065
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 5: for guys not wanting to adjust the way they hit.

1066
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: What about when they lowered it, like Bob Gibson, a big,

1067
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: bigger reason than the mound got lowered to begin with,

1068
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: Like you could come up and just knock them down.

1069
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you feel like it should still be even higher?

1070
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 5: I would love it if it was higher. No, I

1071
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 5: think they found a sweet spot. I think that's a

1072
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: really good place to be right now, and I don't

1073
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: think it needs to be adjusted. I think that's just

1074
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 5: I think you risk injuries. I just think that there's

1075
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 5: it's a way we want to be creative because you know,

1076
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 5: averages are down, but offensive production is up. Runs are up,

1077
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 5: so guys are hitting home runs. I think if we

1078
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 5: just put a little emphasis on paying the three hundred

1079
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: hitter instead of just paying for ops, so that all

1080
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 5: guys do is try to launch every single pitch, because like, cool,

1081
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 5: if I go zero for three and I hit the

1082
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 5: ball hard three times, that's all that matters. Exit v

1083
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 5: low and like if we put an emphasis on like, yeah,

1084
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 5: you hit three hundred, you get paid. You know, It's

1085
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 5: like if I'm a manager, I have three rules beyond

1086
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: time hustle and if you hit a home run, you

1087
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 5: play the next day. That's it. I don't care what

1088
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 5: the analytics say, you play the next day.

1089
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: Musical Mount Rushmore. Final question, give me the four artists

1090
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: that have infected your life the most.

1091
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: Okay, Garth Brooks.

1092
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: Why Garth?

1093
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 5: That's my child. I grew up you know, loving country

1094
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 5: music and that's like you know, times of the the memories.

1095
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 5: It sparks in my head. Man is like so great. Yeah, yeah,

1096
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 5: have you met him? Uh yeah, yeah. Actually he did

1097
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 5: the teammates for kids. It's charity thing that he would

1098
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: always do. And we actually uh got to hang one

1099
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 5: night up in his suite, which was which was pretty awesome.

1100
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 5: It was a weird collection me him, Roulan Gardner, Larry

1101
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 5: Walker and uh it was it was a blast. But

1102
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 5: just he was awesome, man, so awesome. I would probably

1103
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 5: I would say Marvin Gay. I love his music. I

1104
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: love the soul that I can listen sit there and

1105
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: listen to that genre of music, like all day. It's

1106
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 5: on my playlist all the time. I would probably put Uh,

1107
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 5: I probably would put Eddie on there. I would put

1108
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 5: Eddie Vetter on there.

1109
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: Just Eddie or Pearl Jam.

1110
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 5: I would put Pearl Jam on there. You know, I

1111
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 5: love Ed and I love his voice, but I just

1112
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 5: love Mike and Matt and I. You know those guys

1113
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 5: their music and Chicago.

1114
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: Did you know him.

1115
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 3: He's a big cups.

1116
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. I actually gotta do it. Do a little fun

1117
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 5: thing at Chelios's Jersey retirement. I got to get up

1118
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: and sing that we did the band We did the Weight,

1119
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 5: which was a.

1120
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 4: Lot of fun, like the band song.

1121
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was great. So I put

1122
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 5: I would put them and then uh, when you're saying,

1123
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 5: I would put Chris Stapleton on there for cool. Yeah,

1124
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 5: I think that's probably been my biggest bridge, like at once,

1125
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 5: you know, not that once, but like as Garth you know,

1126
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: got older and you know, still performs obviously, but and

1127
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, Chris came in and I

1128
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 5: liked him, you know, even before he was Chris Stapleton,

1129
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 5: like listening to you know, old stuff and and things

1130
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 5: like that, and and then what he's blown up into

1131
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 5: is and and still so humble, you know, from what

1132
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: I see or hear or even when I witness when

1133
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 5: he's at innings Fest, how he treats people and the

1134
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 5: same way.

1135
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: I was a fan of you back in Canada when

1136
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: you were sixteen.

1137
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: I was like, that's my guy.

1138
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: I know I have got good Yeah, that's what I

1139
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: always say. Like I knew Dempster when he was just

1140
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: a kid, like but they were like, well you were

1141
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: just a kid too.

1142
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 5: But I knew hey when I when I was at

1143
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: Max over there at karaoke last night, and and and

1144
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 5: the dude decided to sink Tennessee whiskey. I was full

1145
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 5: blair and vocals, so I was ready to go. I

1146
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: went Proud Mary last night.

1147
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: You sang Proud Mary last night? Did you do the

1148
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 3: Tina or that John Tina?

1149
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: Yeah? It was the litro. Yeah, oh yeah.

1150
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: I would have loved to have a scene video A

1151
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: big fan. And I know you're calling the game. I'm

1152
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 3: playing now. Are you calling the game?

1153
00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 5: Yes?

1154
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 4: Tonight?

1155
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 5: Yeah? Super for this. It's gonna be a good time.

1156
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 5: Are you Are you ready?

1157
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1158
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm ready.

1159
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm just worried because we we've been traveling around and

1160
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: like we were at University of Arizona with the football

1161
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: program yesterday and so you know, we made a little

1162
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: came to Dallas.

1163
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna go up to University of Oregon.

1164
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 2: But if I don't start, that's what I'm worried about,

1165
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: like getting here, diverting our schedule, and then being on

1166
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: the bench.

1167
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm scared of that. So it's a real thing.

1168
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: It's a real thing, and you don't think it will be.

1169
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 5: Like I remember years ago, I played in a celebrity

1170
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 5: like a baseball player celebrity thing in Pump Springs and

1171
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 5: I was pitching and then I went to the lineup

1172
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 5: card and I wasn't hitting, and I went Lou Brock

1173
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: was her manager, and I went into his office and

1174
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, you're really not gonna let me hit in

1175
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 5: this softball game? And he goes, well, you're a pitcher,

1176
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: and I go, I know my average isn't very good,

1177
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 5: but like and he goes, fine. I end up hitting

1178
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 5: the tater. But I was like, you know, like thank you,

1179
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 5: Like you can't bench me in.

1180
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: This So that's what I'm worried about. That I traveled

1181
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: all this way.

1182
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like I'm ready to play and then

1183
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: I for some reason, there's you know, one of these

1184
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: rappers is ahead of me. Yeah, and you know that

1185
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: will be embarrassing for me. Yeah, so that's what's up.

1186
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 5: Okay, So who's you do? You know who your manager?

1187
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: Don't know anything? Okay, I just know I know a

1188
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: couple of people. I know Dion.

1189
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1190
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: We did a pilot for ABC together for the show

1191
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: didn't get picked up. We worked with like four months.

1192
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: I love Deon.

1193
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's awesome and he might be he's one of

1194
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: the coaches.

1195
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh he's coaching.

1196
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, so now you got an end.

1197
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: If he's my coach, I'll be playing that leadoff let's go.

1198
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1199
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: I thought it was weird because his foot, you know,

1200
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: he was injured. Yeah, and they said he was coming.

1201
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: I messaged him, but I don't know he was coaching. O. Yeah,

1202
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: I hope he's my coach.

1203
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 4: Feel better?

1204
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's my coach, yeah, so no, but I've

1205
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 2: never done this before.

1206
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: What's the tip? Because I can still play a little bit,

1207
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 3: But what's what's the tip?

1208
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, I think with the hitting is don't over

1209
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 5: swing everybody because you know they want to They want

1210
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 5: to hit it so hard and then you end up

1211
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 5: rolling over popping it up and it's like and just

1212
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 5: wait a little extra second for that ball to get there,

1213
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 5: you know. But that definitely just yeah, just don't overswing

1214
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 5: put the good word in for me. If I'm gonna

1215
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go over there.

1216
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, hey, dude, that guy can still play.

1217
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. I just saw him. He was taking ground balls

1218
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 5: and yeah, Lobby, Yeah absolutely, Ryan.

1219
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: Thanks now, I really appreciate the time. Yeah, thanks you

1220
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: for having moving for us, and we'll see you later

1221
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: on tonight.

1222
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: You got it all right. I feel like.

1223
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: We've been looking for players. The closest we've gotten is

1224
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: we are. Driver said he dropped off King Griffy Junr

1225
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: like two hours before he dropped us off.

1226
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: So that means he's here somewhere.

1227
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere, King Griffy Junior is here, and that's awesome.

1228
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 2: As we record this, it's Saturday, so the actual All

1229
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 2: Star game doesn't starts till Tuesday.

1230
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: Did you know that?

1231
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 5: I didn't know that.

1232
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 2: So none of the player's gonna because they're still playing game, correct,

1233
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: which is kind of disappointing because I was looking for

1234
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: like Bobby wit Junr.

1235
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: But but but some of the older players that aren't playing,

1236
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: I haven't seen one of them. Well, man, I'm telling you,

1237
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 4: Kevin and I may have seen someone in the gym.

1238
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: We don't know an older player.

1239
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: No, uh uh, somebody playing the celebrity softball game. Just

1240
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 3: say who it is? Why are you hiding it?

1241
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: Because because we're not sure if it was really him.

1242
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: Okay, who did you think it might have been?

1243
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 5: Does Bryant?

1244
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 4: He was wearing a hoodie. He was working out, and

1245
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 4: actually he was like in between reps, so he's just

1246
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: sitting on the bench and then we were kind of

1247
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: staring and then he looked up at us, and we're like,

1248
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 4: ohh and then we looked out quick.

1249
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: But but he wasn't that tall, which I would assume

1250
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: he would be tall. What do you say, wasn't that tall? Like, uh,

1251
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: taller than you?

1252
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 4: I would say the guy was about six to one

1253
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: taller than you. Yeah, by one inch, but.

1254
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 3: You're not five eleven, No, I'm six foot No. No,

1255
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: how strong was he?

1256
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 5: Though?

1257
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: He was pretty fit, but he wasn't overly ripped, and

1258
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 4: he kind of looked young.

1259
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: Okay, des Bryant is six to two, so he's not.

1260
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 7: But here's where I'm a little confused, Eddie.

1261
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 5: He was sitting down.

1262
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, but no, no will while you

1263
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: went to go do your other he turned away. He

1264
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: stood out, that's all.

1265
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 7: I was like, when you're talking about his height, I

1266
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 7: was like, wait, how do you know? Also, we were

1267
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 7: sitting on the ab Gruncher his.

1268
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: Place in Arizona.

1269
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: There was a Michael Jordan old school cut out of

1270
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: him from like a Weedi's box or something and had

1271
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: his actual height and.

1272
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: He people remember that poster.

1273
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: He couldn't have been more than ten in the Wheaties box.

1274
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: So Eddie's like, look hout tall, I am.

1275
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: I was almost as tall as Michael Jordan.

1276
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: So we haven't seen anyone yet. But we got here

1277
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: last night. I went straight to sleep and you guys

1278
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: went out.

1279
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: We did. Yeah, we went out to uh right next

1280
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 4: to the hotels. It's just a bunch of like I

1281
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: don't know. There's one area that where there's ten bars

1282
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: in one area called Texas Live and Reading. Kevin wrote able, I.

1283
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: Heard you guys went to the video game place. I

1284
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: saw Red throw the ball. Yep was see the fastest arm? No,

1285
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: Kevin was, how fast you throw it?

1286
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 5: Seventy four?

1287
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: Nice read. That's pretty good though for both of you.

1288
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, went too bad.

1289
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: You feel like you'd beat him?

1290
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I probably should have Are you

1291
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: more of an athlete than Kevin.

1292
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 5: When it comes to baseball?

1293
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: Probably?

1294
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 4: What d that's tough?

1295
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 7: No, you think you're a better You hit the side

1296
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 7: of the thing. You didn't even hit the accuracy. You

1297
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 7: couldn't even read your accuracy because you hit the side

1298
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 7: of it.

1299
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 6: And I thought I was gonna hit my arm on it.

1300
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: Oh they were plastic balls, and it really was like squishy, can.

1301
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 5: You throw a knuckleball? Absolutely? Really?

1302
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Ye?

1303
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 5: No, remember I brought that up and I took his

1304
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 5: spotlight on the podcast.

1305
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: I used to be able to throw Another thing?

1306
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: Is our friends off all? Ricky's here and Reed did

1307
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: not know his name and he's been hanging in with us.

1308
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 5: For like what did I just say?

1309
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: Nothing?

1310
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: No?

1311
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 4: I mean you didn't have a guess.

1312
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 5: I was Malvin, Yeah, No, it's it's Ricky.

1313
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 3: I said, Jimmy, that's not the same name though, that's

1314
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: rick Yeah, that's Ricky.

1315
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: A lot of people guess Charlie.

1316
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 8: With me.

1317
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 4: Really, I get a little Charlie.

1318
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: Uh So we were like, read what's his name is?

1319
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: He said, hey, hey, doing Mike check And I was like,

1320
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: why would you just hate him?

1321
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 5: What's his name?

1322
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: Staid?

1323
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: Hanging out with us all day and he's like, I

1324
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: don't know his name. I don't know his name, so

1325
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: read this is Ricky.

1326
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 4: Sorry, Ricky, Ricky, this is reed nice to meet you, Ricky.

1327
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 3: I'm Eddie Softball.

1328
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: Ricky works for the University of Texas, right officially? Or

1329
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: do you work for BEVO?

1330
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 5: You work for both?

1331
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: You work for the Longhorn.

1332
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm you know, the Jerry Maguire of that longhornes

1333
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 8: he's the agent.

1334
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1335
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: So you guys are now officially in the SEC.

1336
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: That's correct.

1337
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 3: That was a big date.

1338
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 5: We are.

1339
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: As we're almost two weeks in.

1340
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 8: He was looking at his watch, but because we get

1341
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 8: the date on there, it's a it's a uh, it's

1342
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 8: a time X.

1343
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: The Oklahoma Athletic Director called me and said, hey, would

1344
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: you come and do like a show on the day

1345
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: we go in the SEC. We want to do a

1346
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: big announcement. I want to have welcome to the SEC.

1347
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: You have a bunch of the kids out do a

1348
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: free show. And I like the Athletic director of Oklahoma,

1349
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: like I know him a little bit. His name is Joke, right,

1350
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: Joe yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe c yeah, and so super

1351
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: nice guy, and I was like, Joe, se I'm not

1352
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: a O you fan. I do like oh You more

1353
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: than Texas now because my wife.

1354
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: But I was like, I'm not.

1355
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: That's that's he's married and that's tough.

1356
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: But I'm not an O you fan.

1357
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: And so I didn't want any part of welcoming oh

1358
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 2: You or Texas to the sec as like, come along,

1359
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: I'll be your guide as we talk you to. So

1360
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm happy you guys are here because now you get

1361
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: to play like actual schedules.

1362
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 8: Well, I mean you ask me, you know a lot

1363
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 8: of what we've were. It kind of sounds a lot

1364
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 8: like the old Southwest Conference. I mean we played Arkansas

1365
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 8: a whole bunch. We're talking about the long time technically.

1366
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: SMU and TCU.

1367
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: You get to leave all that behind. SMU's not even

1368
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: in the conference. Wasn't the Big twelve anymore?

1369
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1370
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, play Georgia like Alabama's schools, LSU, these schools were playing.

1371
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: They're not going to need an introduction. We're pretty familiar.

1372
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully you'd get matched up in a single bowl

1373
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: game against one of them at the end of the year,

1374
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 2: after you beat all the little patsis.

1375
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1376
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 8: I mean, I think Texas A and M had a

1377
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 8: hard time with those little pats's I didn't. They weren't

1378
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 8: winning much in the Big twelve.

1379
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, and then they paid their coach, timbo Fisher

1380
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: one billion dollars and then you got to keep all

1381
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: of it. Oh my god, I'm super excited that you

1382
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: guys are coming, not to the SEC just because my

1383
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: wife's I know you fan, and we get to be

1384
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: in the same conference now and then.

1385
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 8: You're united in your horns downism.

1386
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 3: You know, you're just like sensitive about horns.

1387
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 4: It's not it's.

1388
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: Knowledgeable, doesn't even allow it.

1389
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 8: The only the only reason that it would ever bother me,

1390
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 8: Like people have done it to me a million times.

1391
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 8: You come and put it two inches from my face.

1392
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 8: That's a little bit different story, like personal space.

1393
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 3: Like the personal space. They were saying they were gonna

1394
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: call penalties on teams for a game.

1395
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 8: But that's like if we did guns down Texas Tech,

1396
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 8: same thing we got.

1397
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 4: Yes it did.

1398
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 8: Mike Davis got a penalty for doing guns down in

1399
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 8: love it don't question me you talking to.

1400
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: I would also like to say the reason I hate

1401
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: Texas so much is because you guys are bigger and

1402
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: better than us, and I agree with all of that.

1403
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: I've often said that you guys have.

1404
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: More money, you're bigger, effect you've won, you know, more

1405
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: champion how many championships you guys won.

1406
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it depends on how you count.

1407
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: But you know, for account, okay, so we've won.

1408
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 8: We're not counting like Alabama accounts, where it's like, oh,

1409
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 8: we lost three games and then you know somebody else

1410
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 8: is undefeatable recounted.

1411
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: You guys were our rival in the Southwest Conference. We

1412
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: weren't really yours.

1413
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: We were just a team you didn't like because we

1414
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 3: didn't like you.

1415
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 8: Now, I think the Texas Arkansas is A is a legitimate,

1416
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 8: recognized rivalry to Longhorn fans like way more than Texas Tech,

1417
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 8: way more than TCU.

1418
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 3: But not Oklahoma A and M. Right, you never want

1419
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 3: to be somebody's third place. That's not that's not the

1420
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: real rivalry, that's just somebody you don't like.

1421
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 8: Well, I think Oklahoma is our number one rivalry. I

1422
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 8: would probably put A and M second, but there are

1423
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 8: a lot of Longhorn fans that would put Arkansas right

1424
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 8: there with Texas A and M. I mean they're typically older.

1425
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 8: But I mean when we played all three years ago

1426
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 8: or whatever it is, I have never seen more school

1427
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 8: sponsored in my life.

1428
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 4: Like they were like they had a guy on at

1429
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 4: the game. It's like, come on, let's see those horns down.

1430
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 4: Like that's all. It wasn't. Everybody was.

1431
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 8: Everybody was seven in a uniform, uniform, and so they

1432
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 8: charged the field and I'm like, we're trying to get

1433
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 8: off the field and get out of there, and like

1434
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 8: people are grabbing me and like saying all kinds of stuff.

1435
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: They go down there too.

1436
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 8: No, Beava wasn't there, but I was there, and I

1437
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 8: think they thought I was a coach or something. They

1438
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 8: had no idea who they were telling they were talking to.

1439
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 4: But like it was heated.

1440
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 8: It was heated, and quite honestly, the girls were more

1441
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 8: aggressive than the guys. Interesting, oh yeah, oh yeah, what

1442
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 8: do you think that was?

1443
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 5: Buzz?

1444
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's so rantic at this point, like

1445
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: an observation.

1446
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: I was sitting up in a suite taking it all in,

1447
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: So you didn't storm the field was up to high,

1448
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 4: was up to high.

1449
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1450
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: I'm happy that it's happening.

1451
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: I just wasn't gonna go be a part of Oklahoma's

1452
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: Welcome to the SEC day, even though I enjoyed Joe

1453
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: Ci and I like Oklahoma better the Texas, But Oklahoma

1454
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: Texas rivalry feels very You're you're.

1455
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: On even term A and M. You guys kind of

1456
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: look down at because they're like the little brother.

1457
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: I mean, they're They're a great school.

1458
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 3: Letters on the name to even exist, well, they they

1459
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: rarely use them.

1460
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 8: I mean they're the only school that I know that

1461
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 8: you know, Michigan State don't do it, Florida State, don't

1462
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 8: do it. You don't somebody calls themselves a Florida seminole,

1463
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 8: like they say Texas Aggie's all the time, which is different.

1464
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 4: I mean, they're Texas A and M.

1465
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 8: But like I will say that their fans are as

1466
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 8: passionate as any school in the country.

1467
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 4: I mean, we go play there. It is crazy loud.

1468
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 3: Do you expect to win the SEC this year?

1469
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 4: I expect to compete to win THEE.

1470
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: What would be in your mind a successful season record

1471
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: wise eliminate the playoffer.

1472
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know how many wins and I

1473
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 8: you know, I'm I would I would hope that we

1474
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 8: would win ten games.

1475
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: But you know if you went only ten, is that

1476
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: a success?

1477
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I'm in charge of Bevo,

1478
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 4: you know the offensive coordinator.

1479
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 3: Let me read, let me read.

1480
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: I love the answer.

1481
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 5: I love it.

1482
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: Let me read your schedule and you give me wins

1483
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: and losses. This is no my gosh, you can do it,

1484
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: because I'll do it.

1485
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 4: I'm loving this right now. You're representing your school. I

1486
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: know I go exactly exactly right. There's no pressure.

1487
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 8: I lost the we have no there isn't you tell

1488
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 8: me we're playing the Patriots next week.

1489
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like, I don't like here, we go

1490
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: give me winner loss?

1491
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: Ready?

1492
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: Okay, twenty twenty four schedule, game number one, August thirty

1493
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: first is the thing.

1494
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 8: Let's just go ahead and say there's You're not going

1495
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 8: to catch me saying we're gonna lose it.

1496
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 4: It's just not every game, okay, you just we're twelve

1497
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: and oh but realistically you're not going to go and

1498
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 4: defeated when you're doing this right now, So you got

1499
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 4: to pick some losses. I am not going to pick

1500
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: a loss.

1501
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: There's no way at Texas in Austin. Where who Colorado State?

1502
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: At Texas in Austin will win. Okay, Texas at Michigan

1503
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: on the Timber six win in Michigan. Wow, that's strong,

1504
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: I'd agree.

1505
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 4: What does that mean? Oh my god?

1506
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: Okay, U t s A at Texas win, Louise, How

1507
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: do you guys play such weak games?

1508
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about. It plays like Furman.

1509
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Louisiana, Monroe at Texas win. Yeah, Mississippi,

1510
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: State of Texas win. Bet the farm Texas the Oklahoma

1511
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 2: and Dallas win.

1512
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 4: Oh that's the boomer.

1513
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: Sooner, Georgia at Texas win, Texas at Vanderbilt. When bet

1514
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: the farm Florida at Texas win.

1515
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: Come on, Ricky, you're not even playing the game because

1516
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 4: there's no like. But but at least say it's going

1517
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: to be a challenge.

1518
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: Back to that.

1519
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: Texas at Arkansas, when Kentucky at Texas win, Texas and

1520
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: Texas A and m win. Okay, so let's win Texas

1521
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: versus the Chiefs. I like, well, okay, what do you

1522
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: think will be the hardest game for you guys this year?

1523
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: You'll obviously win.

1524
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I would think that everybody would think

1525
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 8: the Georgia game is going to be the toughest game.

1526
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 8: But we have to play at Arkansas, we have to

1527
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 8: play at Texas A and M. That's gonna be tough.

1528
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 8: Obviously playing the Sooners and Dallas is always tough, but

1529
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 8: like going on the playing Arkansas and Texas A and

1530
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 8: M on the road in the same year, that's tough.

1531
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 8: I mean, that's gonna Those are going to be the

1532
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 8: most hostile crowds.

1533
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: We faced all season, bar not.

1534
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: I think the Arkansas game will be different this time

1535
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: around than last time around.

1536
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: What's good, I mean, what's good for you guys too.

1537
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: It's part of it's eleven am game as well, a

1538
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: Fattville We're not Gonnan years drunk.

1539
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I agree that, Like I'd rather play

1540
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 8: Arkansas at eleven than seven pm.

1541
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't even have a team the cause team no, no,

1542
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: you do Dallas Cowboys schedule at any Yes.

1543
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: Dallas, and I love the Dallas Cowboys.

1544
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 8: But if you ask me Dallas Cowboys versus long words,

1545
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 8: and we're like, man, if we get a couple.

1546
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: Of turnovers, I like, here we go, both of you

1547
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 3: guys one.

1548
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 4: All right, now you can be honest? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1549
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 3: Game one Cowboys at Browns win.

1550
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 4: I'll take a win. Take the spread two.

1551
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: Saints at Cowboy you don't even know the spread, whatever

1552
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: it is. Saints at Cowboys. When Ravens at Cowboys.

1553
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 4: Loss, be a close one. We might lose that one.

1554
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: No, min you gotta pick, we'll lose it.

1555
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 5: Right now.

1556
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: You are two and one, okay, Cowboys at Giants win

1557
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: when three and one, Cowboys at Steelers win win four

1558
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: and one, Lions at Cowboys, Lions at Cowboys, yeah.

1559
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: When that'll be the win because I think they play

1560
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 4: them again. Okay, I might say a loss on that.

1561
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: You're five and one right now.

1562
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 4: We do really well at home. We do really well

1563
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 4: at home.

1564
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys at forty nine Ers loss, five and two, Cowboys

1565
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: at Falcons win, six and two, Eagles at cow Boys win.

1566
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 4: Eagles yeah.

1567
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: At Dallas when seven and twoccording to Eddie, so far

1568
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: Texans at Cowboys.

1569
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: Ooh at in Dallas. I'll take a win on that one.

1570
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: Last win eight too, okay, Cowboys at Commanders when win

1571
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: nine to two?

1572
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: For readdy, Giants at Cowboys. When when Bengals at Cowboys.

1573
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 4: Loss probably a loss?

1574
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: Oh like ten and three, eleven and three. I forget

1575
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 3: who we are.

1576
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 4: But I have one more. I have us losing one

1577
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 4: more than.

1578
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: Ten and three.

1579
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Cowboys at Panthers, When when Buccaneers at Cowboys?

1580
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 3: When when Cowboys at Eagles lost loss to loss?

1581
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: And Commanders at Cowboys when we lost four?

1582
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 3: So the Cowboys at thirteen and four and then.

1583
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 4: I have I have them at twelve and five. Then

1584
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 4: did I have five? I had five? Then I had

1585
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: one more than Yeah, you have one more than me.

1586
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 4: But around the same.

1587
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: Would you pay Dak Ricky sixty million dollars because that's

1588
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: going to be about what markets said that if he

1589
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: is the new guy that's going to set the uh

1590
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: set pace.

1591
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 8: My thought is on that that if you're not in

1592
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 8: a place that you don't think you're going to compete

1593
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 8: any anytime in the near future, then no, Like if.

1594
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 3: You eleven twelve games a year, sure, okay, but like

1595
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: every year.

1596
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 8: But the thing now, I'm not if this isn't anything

1597
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 8: on deck. I'm just saying that, like if you think, okay,

1598
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 8: if our window is closed theoretically after the season, I

1599
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 8: don't think you go and blow all that money on

1600
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 8: a quarterback that it's not gonna You're not gonna have

1601
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 8: a team to get to the super Bowl. But if

1602
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 8: they feel like that they are there, then you know,

1603
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 8: if they maybe.

1604
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: Thirty one years old, he's still age wise in his prime.

1605
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: But do you think Dak can win a couple of

1606
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: playoff games?

1607
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: Gosh, just hard man, that's hard because he's alway is

1608
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: it Dax's ball? They have it one player?

1609
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 4: Well, we always put it on him because he's the

1610
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 4: one that cracks. He's the one that plays true. I

1611
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 4: just I disagree.

1612
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 8: I think that we've been an undisciplined team like that

1613
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 8: was a whole team, like that was an embarrassment that

1614
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 8: went on Dak. That's talking about like the last season

1615
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 8: and to be like, I don't you know, I kind

1616
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 8: of feel like that when we were going into some

1617
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 8: of those playoff games that it felt like we were

1618
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 8: at a disadvantage. That it to me, it felt like

1619
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 8: the other team was going to be more prepared, like

1620
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 8: we were going to need a break or two to win.

1621
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 8: It wasn't like it was kind of like playing the

1622
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 8: Packers in the playoffs over the last decade where it

1623
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 8: was like, oh gosh, you know, like just waiting for

1624
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers to go down the field and beat us.

1625
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: At the end, you know, well thanks for Cowboy talking

1626
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: said about, well, what we're literally a thousand steps away

1627
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 2: from All Star.

1628
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 4: We can no, I know, but dude, it's so cool.

1629
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 4: We were working out this morning and I can like

1630
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 4: all I could see was Cowboys Stadium and I was like,

1631
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 4: do you know what on this elliptical I'm working out

1632
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 4: with the county with the cow We.

1633
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: Drove by in a Parma complex and he was like,

1634
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: I guess who lives there, Dak Prescott.

1635
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 4: It's right across from the stadium.

1636
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: All right, all right, that's it. We're done. I have

1637
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 3: to stretch, get more arm loose.

1638
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 4: Yes, good luck.

1639
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 5: Dudes.

1640
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that coach Prime, Yeah you don't.

1641
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 3: You don't call him Deon.

1642
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 4: You don't have that right. That's his name. You don't

1643
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 4: have that right to call him. What are you talking about?

1644
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 4: That's what the whole world call.

1645
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: They call him coach Prime. Trust I don't wize it

1646
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: was he was coaching. So I text him and I said,

1647
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: are you around? And they said, I don't really know

1648
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: what I'm doing because he lives here, so he's not

1649
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: like singing at a hotel.

1650
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: And then I said, if you're coaching put me at first.

1651
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 3: Me they just said not yet, okay, So that means

1652
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 3: the bubbles.

1653
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 5: On and off.

1654
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 4: The bubbles are on and off like I think I did.

1655
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that says text unsent. God, dang uh. That's it.

1656
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: Thank you guys, and we'll see you guys soon