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Speaker 2: worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked
Speaker 2: you didn't like baseball tonight? Mariners in the Blue Jays.
Speaker 2: Just a suggestion, and it's a suggestion, don't pitch to
Speaker 2: Vlad Guerrero. He is on a heater right now. He
Speaker 2: is doing something that the last time this happened, it
Speaker 2: was Babe Ruth. And speaking of Babe Ruth, show, Hey
Speaker 2: Otani did some things that even Babe Ruth didn't do.
Speaker 2: Ron Darling was on the call the former World Series
Speaker 2: champ with the Mets and broadcasting with TBS in the
Speaker 2: booth for Friday Night the Pennant clinching victory. Ronnie, You've
Speaker 2: seen a lot of baseball. Oo have you seen anything
Speaker 2: that compares to what you saw on Friday Night?
Speaker 5: I've never seen anything like it, you know, I think
Speaker 5: that We're used to seeing great things from great athletes,
Speaker 5: and we always find the words. I found it very
Speaker 5: difficult to find any words for what happened on Friday night.
Speaker 5: That's something that I thought might be one hundred years
Speaker 5: from now. Maybe I didn't know it was, it was
Speaker 5: present now. It's just it was stuff that you see
Speaker 5: in Williamsport. You don't see at Dodger Stadium on a
Speaker 5: Friday night.
Speaker 2: A Little League World Series instead of a playoff. But
Speaker 2: you know, no other player has this opportunity to pitch
Speaker 2: and then bat lead off. I mean there's nobody else.
Speaker 2: Even Babe Ruth didn't do this. He probably batted third
Speaker 2: in the lineup with the Yankees, but he stopped pitching
Speaker 2: to just then concentrate on hitting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's and you know, the pitching and the way
Speaker 5: you pitched and got people out in those days certainly
Speaker 5: is a little different than what guys are looking at today.
Speaker 5: But I remember, I'm old enough that when I was drafted,
Speaker 5: I remember saying to my agent, I said, what if
Speaker 5: I don't like who drafts, why can't I go to
Speaker 5: Japan and play for a couple of years. I'm twenty
Speaker 5: years old. It would be a great place to hang out,
Speaker 5: learn a lot about baseball formative years, and also a
Speaker 5: new culture. And my agent told me that you'd be
Speaker 5: blackballed from baseball forever. But the one thing he did say,
Speaker 5: and I'll never forget it, because he said, you know,
Speaker 5: it's inferior baseball over there. They'll have some pitchers maybe
Speaker 5: someday come over and make their mark, but the everyday
Speaker 5: player will never have a place in a Major League baseball.
Speaker 5: And in my lifetime we have the best player that
Speaker 5: I've ever seen was born in Japan.
Speaker 2: But you also look at this and you wondered that
Speaker 2: will this spawn other players who and using your pitture
Speaker 2: as your shortstop and your best player any bats third
Speaker 2: in the lineup. Why haven't we seen more this? Paul
Speaker 2: Schemes was a great hitter in college, and I don't know,
Speaker 2: can you take advantage of that? Will teams do that?
Speaker 5: You know? I can only speak from my own experience,
Speaker 5: because when I hear about other pitchers that were great hitters,
Speaker 5: I'm always a little skeptical. And only in this sense
Speaker 5: is that I was a player pitcher myself, and I
Speaker 5: had great years as a collegiate, and then I started
Speaker 5: taking a batting practice against major league pitchers and the
Speaker 5: spin and the velocity, and I was, wow, am I
Speaker 5: out of my league? So even most collegiate collegiate players
Speaker 5: who are great hitters and pitchers find when they get
Speaker 5: to the major league level that they're not. So that's
Speaker 5: what makes it even more remarkable.
Speaker 2: Well, was it more remarkable the pitching or the hitting
Speaker 2: if we separate the two that he hits three bombs,
Speaker 2: but also the pitching, because man, that was some filthy
Speaker 2: stuff that he was throwing.
Speaker 5: Well, I think if we separated the pitching was remarkable
Speaker 5: only because he hasn't done a lot of it this
Speaker 5: year and that he could be two weeks in between
Speaker 5: throwing in a major league and produced those kind of results.
Speaker 5: But the one thing Dan I will tell you, especially
Speaker 5: his second and third home run. Our people at Turner,
Speaker 5: they do such a great job with the pictures in
Speaker 5: the sound, they could not replicate the sound that second
Speaker 5: home run made from the booth. It sounded like someone
Speaker 5: had shot off a cannon. I mean, the sound of
Speaker 5: the connection between bat and ball. I've never heard that before,
Speaker 5: and I've heard some great sounds, including some personally off
Speaker 5: that ended up going a long way, but I had
Speaker 5: never in the booth heard something that loud, and you know,
Speaker 5: we tried to capture it leaving the stadium. And when
Speaker 5: I was a young player going to Dodger Stadium for
Speaker 5: the first time, I had people all the time say, well,
Speaker 5: that's where Stargel hit the ball over the pavilion. And
Speaker 5: I guess, kind of like Ted Williams seat in Femway Park. Yeah, whatever,
Speaker 5: you know, whatever you want to say. That's great, that's
Speaker 5: a nice story. And then you see someone do it
Speaker 5: and you say to yourself that which you thought was
Speaker 5: impossible is possible.
Speaker 2: I have fallen in love with this sound, and you
Speaker 2: bring that up, and I would just have Marvin, who
Speaker 2: gets all of our sound, I'd say, just get me
Speaker 2: Otani hitting that home. There's nobody who sounds that way.
Speaker 2: You could say I'm gonna play five sounds and I'll go, well,
Speaker 2: that one's Otani. I don't know if any like Bonds McGuire,
Speaker 2: who I don't know who you faced that you would go,
Speaker 2: oh my god. As soon as it hits the bat,
Speaker 2: you know that it's gone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there definitely is a different sound for the amazing
Speaker 5: hitter Barry. I faced them early in his career, and
Speaker 5: there definitely was Ken Griffy Jr. The ball would leave
Speaker 5: his bat in a specific way, but the thunder which
Speaker 5: comes off the bat of Atani is just special.
Speaker 2: Explain to me the Dodgers plan is to let their
Speaker 2: starters go a little bit further. It seems to be
Speaker 2: counterintuitive to what everybody else in baseball is doing.
Speaker 5: Well, yes, because they're at a perfect spot. They've done
Speaker 5: something that very few teams can do, have done, or.
Speaker 2: Afford to do, and that is do you need to
Speaker 2: get a drink of water? Go ahead? Yeah, drink water?
Speaker 5: Do you mind? So give me one second?
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead. So Ron was on the call. That
Speaker 2: was Friday night with Game four, the TBS lead analyst.
Speaker 2: He won the World Series back with the mention in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm sorry about that that very few teams
Speaker 5: can do. They got these pictures Snell and Glassnew and others,
Speaker 5: and they're at a spot where they've only pitched sixty
Speaker 5: to one hundred innings. So right now in October, they
Speaker 5: have the most well rested staff with some of the
Speaker 5: most talented pitchers in baseball performing at their best, and
Speaker 5: I think that's why they're asking more of them than
Speaker 5: you've ever seen in the playoffs. We've had guys before
Speaker 5: that they get to this point they have two hundred
Speaker 5: innings or one hundred and eighty five innings. We're talking
Speaker 5: about guys that you can push for a couple of reasons.
Speaker 5: One is that they're where they're at innings wise, But two,
Speaker 5: they've made their money, Dan, and that seems to be
Speaker 5: a very important thing for especially pitchers in baseball. If
Speaker 5: they've made their money, I think they're more willing to
Speaker 5: go that extra mile.
Speaker 2: What do you mean.
Speaker 5: I think that when you get to the postseason and
Speaker 5: you're dealing with a player or a pitcher that has
Speaker 5: not gotten his four or five year contract, they're agent themselves,
Speaker 5: people around them, the team are hesitant sometimes to push
Speaker 5: them to a level that they've never been before. But
Speaker 5: if they've made their money, I feel like they feel
Speaker 5: confident that they can go and go that extra mile
Speaker 5: and pitch seven eight innings as opposed to the five
Speaker 5: or six that you see before.
Speaker 2: Vlad Guerrero has been hot the entire postseason. I mean
Speaker 2: Otani was hot for one game. Lad Guerrero I got
Speaker 2: a walking Ryan.
Speaker 5: I'm amazed. We're supposed to be at the smartest point
Speaker 5: we've ever been in baseball, and sometimes it's really nothing
Speaker 5: more than throwing all the papers away and everything and
Speaker 5: charts and all of that and just watching an athlete
Speaker 5: at his best. I guess we've all been waiting for
Speaker 5: Junior to get to this point because we knew he
Speaker 5: had all the talent in the world. But it's and
Speaker 5: I know you know this better than anyone, when the
Speaker 5: talent and maturity clash all at the same time, it's
Speaker 5: one of the most beautiful things to watch in athletes.
Speaker 5: And that's where he is right now. He just his
Speaker 5: intelligence about hitting is coupled with his athletic, innate athletic talent,
Speaker 5: so it's fun to watch it. I'm with you that
Speaker 5: Seattle would ever challenge him at any point makes no
Speaker 5: sense to me.
Speaker 2: If I and this is apples and oranges, but if
Speaker 2: I took the Bill buck game, Game six in the
Speaker 2: World Series, yeah, and put that up against Otani's game
Speaker 2: Friday night, crazier game that you'd think you would never
Speaker 2: see again, which one would it be?
Speaker 5: Well, I think it would be the Buckner game. To me,
Speaker 5: I think only because Otani could do it again and
Speaker 5: he might be again in the World Series. It was
Speaker 5: just the strangest thing with that game because it was
Speaker 5: built on the Mets coming back in Game six in
Speaker 5: the NLCS against Bob Nepper three runs down. It was
Speaker 5: coupled with Dave Henderson leading off that ending with a
Speaker 5: home run and adding an extra run against Rick Aguilera,
Speaker 5: who would become one of the great closers in the game.
Speaker 5: All of that together, no one recovers from that. But
Speaker 5: because of guys like Gary Carter and Kevin Mitchell and
Speaker 5: Ray Knight and Mookie Wilson, we had a big thing
Speaker 5: in one of the playoff games that bright terrang the
Speaker 5: second basement, couldn't get out of the way of a pitch,
Speaker 5: or did get out of the way of a pitchy
Speaker 5: but the bases loaded and if he got hit, they
Speaker 5: would have tied the game. And I think to myself,
Speaker 5: I might not have had a career in TV if
Speaker 5: Mookie Wilson couldn't have got out of the way before
Speaker 5: he hit that ground ball, and we ended up putting
Speaker 5: the World Series. So you never know what's kind of transpire.
Speaker 2: It was so strange being there that night and going
Speaker 2: into the locker room and Keith Hernandez always had a
Speaker 2: six pack up. I think, Michelob, Yeah, Michelob, you got
Speaker 2: it right. And then I went in there and I
Speaker 2: realized he was in there when the rally was happening,
Speaker 2: getting undressed, and it was one of those where, I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody kind of thought this foregone conclusion, but it's still
Speaker 2: one of those. You want to talk about a roar
Speaker 2: when you guys won that game, That roar at Chase
Speaker 2: Stadium was incredible. And then I had to go into
Speaker 2: the Red Sox locker room to interview Bill Buckner right
Speaker 2: after that.
Speaker 5: I mean, one of the worst things you ever have
Speaker 5: to do, right anytime you have to go into the
Speaker 5: loser's locker room, but especially with Bill, who's one of
Speaker 5: the great players, one of the great hitters they have
Speaker 5: to face. The one thing I will say about that
Speaker 5: night is in the locker rooms aren't like they are now.
Speaker 5: The locker rooms are pretty pathetic in those days, and
Speaker 5: we had that popcorn ceiling, and because of the war,
Speaker 5: as you were talking about, and the people dancing in
Speaker 5: the stands, all of the soot and dirt was coming
Speaker 5: through the popcorn ceiling and all of us thought. I
Speaker 5: think as a collective group, this stadium could come down.
Speaker 5: But I think we're all comfortable. If it's going to
Speaker 5: come down, this is the best time.
Speaker 2: Who do the Dodgers want to face between these two
Speaker 2: teams tonight?
Speaker 5: I don't think the Dodgers care who they face. They
Speaker 5: tell you the truth. I think they're at a point
Speaker 5: right now where they're extremely confident. They've got five future
Speaker 5: Hall of famers, if you include the manager on the
Speaker 5: ball club. They're playing peak with their starting pitching, the
Speaker 5: relievings coming along, and the lineup is as tough as
Speaker 5: any of the game. I don't I don't think they
Speaker 5: fear anyone if they had to face the team maybe
Speaker 5: Seattle because of that way they stay on the West Coast,
Speaker 5: it's a little easier travel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I've So you got Otani, Mookie Kershaw, Freeman,
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts.
Speaker 5: There you go. That's that's uh, that's their Hall of
Speaker 5: famers at some point. So and then we haven't and
Speaker 5: we have what if Snell gets his third sim you
Speaker 5: know there's other other players too.
Speaker 2: I don't know, can three Cy youngs?
Speaker 5: You feel like it it at least gets you in
Speaker 5: the conversation.
Speaker 2: So well, yeah, I don't know anymore with starting pitching,
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean it's really hard to go like
Speaker 2: what what gets you in as a starter anymore.
Speaker 5: I know we're going to have starters in the near future.
Speaker 5: We're going to have less than a hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: wins who are going to be seriously considered. And that's
Speaker 5: how much the game has changed. In fact, I think
Speaker 5: the win is going to change. It's going to be
Speaker 5: a collective decision by some group. I don't know if
Speaker 5: it's going to be the official scorer that will give
Speaker 5: it to whoever pitched the best that day. The five
Speaker 5: innings and all of that I think are going to
Speaker 5: go by the wayside someday. Maybe not in my lifetime,
Speaker 5: but it's going to go.
Speaker 2: So it'd be open to interpretation from the official score
Speaker 2: of you get a win and you went two and
Speaker 2: two thirds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, exactly. Well, a starting pitcher could go four
Speaker 5: and two thirds of scoreless baseball. Everyone else kind of suffers,
Speaker 5: and he gets to win even though he didn't meet
Speaker 5: our five inning minimum.
Speaker 2: But then, can you look back and look at some
Speaker 2: of these pitchers who ended up with two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty wins. And now do you look at Mike Musina differently,
Speaker 2: or you know Bert Weylevin or Tommy John or you
Speaker 2: know it was you know Kurt Shilling, who should be
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: In my opinion one hundred percent, I'm a big haul guy.
Speaker 5: All those guys I look at differently anyways, because they
Speaker 5: were kind of old school meets the new school. In
Speaker 5: this format, I think I can find maybe fifty or
Speaker 5: sixty more wins for myself. I'll have to see.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, Ronnie, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5: Thanks Dan anytime.
Speaker 2: That's Ron Darling. He was in the booth for the
Speaker 2: NLCS game four. Also, you look at that eighty six
Speaker 2: Mets team, they should have won a couple more. That's
Speaker 2: a talented team. But man, were they odd balls. There
Speaker 2: were some goofballs on that team. Who on the road
Speaker 2: they didn't get cheated?
Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, to me, they're like the Motley Crew of sports,
Speaker 6: the hardest partying team of all time. They're easily a
Speaker 6: one seed. There's four one seeds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they There was a lot of things going on
Speaker 2: and I was on I was around the team on
Speaker 2: the periphery. You know, I didn't. You're just kind of
Speaker 2: hearing stuff, and I didn't cover the team on a
Speaker 2: daily basis. But if we were doing a story, a
Speaker 2: feature on Strawberry or a feature on Doc Gooden, then
Speaker 2: you'd be out there. And then I was out there
Speaker 2: for all of those World Series games, yes, time.
Speaker 4: And to still somehow win it all.
Speaker 3: Granted they should have won multiple times, like you know,
Speaker 3: we say the Braves should have won multiple ones, but
Speaker 3: you remember the.
Speaker 4: Bronx Zoo years with the Yankees time, those kinds.
Speaker 3: Of characters and troublemakers for lack of a better word,
Speaker 3: and to still win World Series, To be able to
Speaker 3: act that way and still.
Speaker 2: Win, Yeah, I go back to the Oakland A's in
Speaker 2: the early seventies. They were like that too, that there
Speaker 2: was kind of function with their dysfunction. The Cowboys, although
Speaker 2: they were a team, they were just doing some things
Speaker 2: at the White House that you know, not everybody was doing.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like the Oakland A's had felt like
Speaker 2: there was feuds going on all the time. Yes, Marvin,
Speaker 2: what about.
Speaker 7: The Oakland Raiders like the late seventies, did they have
Speaker 7: a bunch of characters where you can believe they won
Speaker 7: or was that just for show?
Speaker 2: Oh no, they were characters, Oh yeah, start with Alzato.
Speaker 2: But I think they gave you the impression that they
Speaker 2: might have been outlaws off the field, just the impression
Speaker 2: of them and that uniform. But you know, you had
Speaker 2: great players. You can't forget about that. They were a
Speaker 2: great team. All right, A little bit late here, taking
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Speaker 2: Fun to reminisce with Ron Darling, you know, being around
Speaker 2: him when he was actually pitching for the Mets and
Speaker 2: being there in nineteen eighty six, and when you think
Speaker 2: about that didn't win the World Series. That was Game six,
Speaker 2: Boston leed. In Game seven, bruce Hurst was on the
Speaker 2: mound and he was dealing, and the Mets somehow came
Speaker 2: back and won that as well. But you want to
Speaker 2: talk about a locker room that was wild. That was
Speaker 2: the first time I saw goggles on guys partying at
Speaker 2: Lenny Dykstra, Roger McDowell, Danny Heap, Wally Backman, those guys.
Speaker 2: I remember they had goggles on because they were going
Speaker 2: hardcore party in there. All right, what are the Dolphins
Speaker 2: waiting for? That was my thought this morning, because you
Speaker 2: get embarrassed by the Browns bad games by Tua. You
Speaker 2: can't move on from Tua, not until probably after next season.
Speaker 2: But it's going to be a big cap hit there
Speaker 2: for the life of me. For the life of me,
Speaker 2: I've said this and I'll say this as well. Tua
Speaker 2: has been very friendly to the show. He was a
Speaker 2: good guest. When we had him on at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: His father came up, introduced himself and said that he
Speaker 2: enjoys the show. But you know, I put that to
Speaker 2: the side. I have to assess who you are on
Speaker 2: the field when you're playing, and he's not good, And
Speaker 2: I thought, why would you extend him? Why you could
Speaker 2: have just not yet, just say not yet and make
Speaker 2: him play one more year. And even after that, I
Speaker 2: said I would have franchise tag him. I just don't
Speaker 2: think that's the kind of quarterback who is going to
Speaker 2: be successful in the NFL. Throw in the injuries. Now,
Speaker 2: I know hey gets the ball out quickly. I know
Speaker 2: that you got Tyreek Hill and Jalen Wantall. You've got
Speaker 2: a head coach who's you know, an offensive minded coach.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say genius. We tend to throw
Speaker 2: that out a lot. But I never would have extended him. Never,
Speaker 2: and maybe it would have cost me more, but I
Speaker 2: needed to find out more from him, Like it felt like,
Speaker 2: all right, he's got pockets here where, okay, But then
Speaker 2: there were other parts where I'm like that arm's not strong.
Speaker 2: You can get it out quickly, but and you're not durable.
Speaker 2: So I got to see more. And even then, if
Speaker 2: I franchised him, you can walk away from that. So
Speaker 2: this isn't revisionist history. I'm not saying this now because
Speaker 2: I didn't say it back then. I did. The injury
Speaker 2: issues now, granted, thankfully we haven't had that with him,
Speaker 2: but they're real. You're more susceptible to concussions when you
Speaker 2: have them and you're not dealing with a twisted ankle.
Speaker 2: But I mean, Mike McDaniel's going to lose his job.
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill can't play for you can't be traded. I
Speaker 2: got Jalen like, what do I have here? But if
Speaker 2: you keep him on? Does this talk? Does it say
Speaker 2: more about the front office here, ownership here? And maybe
Speaker 2: they don't want to fire him and they want to
Speaker 2: keep him on, which it's fine. I mean, maybe you
Speaker 2: don't want to go pay somebody else to come in.
Speaker 2: You're not going to hire somebody now. But you start
Speaker 2: to look at this and you go, where's it going?
Speaker 2: And how did it get so bad? Because I think
Speaker 2: people probably thought, hey, if the Dolphins play some defense here,
Speaker 2: they're going to be a great offense. Now you look,
Speaker 2: this is why I think the Patriots their playoff team.
Speaker 2: The Jets aren't any good and the Dolphins aren't any good,
Speaker 2: and you can go toe to toe. I believe with
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. I think Buffalo is better, but not
Speaker 2: by a sizeable leap. But Mike McDaniel has to talk
Speaker 2: to the media tomorrow. Is he going to be there
Speaker 2: to talk to them? Ryan in Detroit, Hi, Ryan, thanks
Speaker 2: for holding best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 9: Yeah, hey, Dan, thanks for calling me back. I've got
Speaker 9: two best and a question for Fritzy Notre Dame game.
Speaker 9: First best wife and I went over there and it
Speaker 9: was an awesome atmosphere, great win for the Irish. Weather
Speaker 9: was a problem, but it was still a lot of fun.
Speaker 9: Second best and I'm forty eight, Dan, but I still
Speaker 9: have the mentality of my six year sixth grade son.
Speaker 10: I couldn't get.
Speaker 9: Over the sign in the back of the James Franklin
Speaker 9: interview on game day it said Lane Kiffin poops standing
Speaker 9: up and for whatever reason, I just couldn't stop laughing.
Speaker 9: Very serious interview.
Speaker 2: It was up there for a long time. Ryan, I like,
Speaker 2: how when there's an opening, the first name, well, okay,
Speaker 2: you have people going you know, first call I would
Speaker 2: have for Penn State Urban Meyer. I go, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's not your first call. You know the first call
Speaker 2: i'd have Nick Saban, No, no, no, you know who
Speaker 2: I'd call Lane Kiffin. I go, okay, that might be
Speaker 2: a possibility every opening Florida. Hey, you know who they
Speaker 2: should go after, Lane Kiffin. If I'm Lane Kiffin, stay
Speaker 2: at Old miss Stay there. You got your family there,
Speaker 2: you seem to be healthy, You've done a great job there.
Speaker 2: Don't chase, don't chase. You can make a great living.
Speaker 2: That's a wonderful place to live. Your daughter's going to
Speaker 2: school there. But hey, you know the mentality of coaches
Speaker 2: now is I got to key moving, got to keep moving,
Speaker 2: got to keep moving. And by Kurt Signetti, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I never would have given him eight years, but I'm
Speaker 2: glad that he has stability and he's sixty four years
Speaker 2: of age, and timing is everything. Maybe they found their coach.
Speaker 2: But you know, it won't take long before people expect
Speaker 2: you in the playoffs every year. Hey we're paying you, now,
Speaker 2: we expect this. With Penn State, hey we're paying you,
Speaker 2: we expect this. And then when you don't get to
Speaker 2: those levels, exceed those levels expectations, that's when all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they come after you. But Penn State, great job,
Speaker 2: but you know the expectations when you go in there.
Speaker 2: It's not just making the playoffs. Now, you got to
Speaker 2: win big games and go back to when when Ryan Day,
Speaker 2: they lose to Michigan. Now, all of a sudden, it
Speaker 2: felt like his job was in jeopardy. It wasn't that
Speaker 2: long ago. It was, oh my god, you lost to
Speaker 2: Michigan again. Coaches get fired at Ohio State when you
Speaker 2: do that. And if he doesn't win the national title,
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, maybe they don't move on from him,
Speaker 2: but it's not out of the realm of possibilities there.
Speaker 2: And then you know what, first called urban You know
Speaker 2: who I'd call Nick Saman's got a great life. Everybody's
Speaker 2: trying to shoehorn him into jobs. You could go to
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. He could, but now that would be stupid.
Speaker 2: He's going to come back and coach Penn State.
Speaker 7: No, yes, Marman, if you're Florida, do you reach out
Speaker 7: to James Franklin first?
Speaker 2: Sure? Why not? I'd kick the tires on everybody. Ryan,
Speaker 2: Thank you for the phone call. Michael in Oregon, Hey Mike,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11: Hi?
Speaker 12: Dan?
Speaker 13: It's an all Mariner best and worst.
Speaker 14: Okay, of course, I'm surprised no one else has touched
Speaker 14: on this Saturday night was just the most amazing eighth
Speaker 14: and ninth inning of all time in baseball. It shows
Speaker 14: you what God the emotion of baseball, so that Grand
Speaker 14: Slam unbelievable. And then last night the worst they had
Speaker 14: bases loaded twice with one out in the middle innings
Speaker 14: and even cal cal Wift is just like, oh no.
Speaker 13: My son and I followed the Mariners since way back,
Speaker 13: Bruce Balkdey, Alvin Davis, even the Gorman Thomas all those years,
Speaker 13: and this is incredible tonight, Dan, It's all about tonight.
Speaker 13: Baseball is amazing.
Speaker 10: Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael. Here's one for you. The Mariners are
Speaker 2: the first team to ground into double plays with the
Speaker 2: bases loaded in consecutive innings in a postseason game since
Speaker 2: nineteen forty. Also, Seattle grounded into a third consecutive double
Speaker 2: play in the fifth inning. Prior to Sunday, the Blue
Speaker 2: Jays pitcher Trey you Savage had not gotten a groundball
Speaker 2: double play in his career. Crazy stat of the today
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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Dan?
Speaker 15: Thanks for taking my call first time? Caller. I thought
Speaker 15: it was a tremendous job you guys did in South Bend,
Speaker 15: and I just wanted to comment about the game. And
Speaker 15: I thought, and I'm not trying to knock USC. I thought,
Speaker 15: you know, they always bring talent to the field. It's
Speaker 15: a great rivalry. I hope it never ends. But my
Speaker 15: my question is centered around Lincoln Riley. I mean, he
Speaker 15: left Oklahoma. It was big hype, big, big hype. He's
Speaker 15: going to be the second coming at USC, you know,
Speaker 15: probably even greater than Pete Carroll. Is his relevancy gone
Speaker 15: if he doesn't? You know now that he's lost to
Speaker 15: Notre Dame consecutive years. Is his relevancy gone if he
Speaker 15: doesn't win the Big Ten this year?
Speaker 10: I mean, what's well.
Speaker 2: He's not going to win the Big Ten, but he's
Speaker 2: flirting with his relevancy. This is one of those situations
Speaker 2: where and they got up to a good start and
Speaker 2: they look great against Michigan, but they're waiting. They're paying
Speaker 2: him a lot of money, they're waiting for these big
Speaker 2: moments there and whether this is true or not, but
Speaker 2: wanting out of Oklahoma to go to USC because there's
Speaker 2: a softer landing in the Pac twelve than the Big
Speaker 2: ten or the SEC, and you know your schedule's not
Speaker 2: as difficult. Well, you don't have that luxury because now
Speaker 2: you're in the Big ten, so you can avoid the SEC.
Speaker 2: By Big ten. Pretty tough sledding as well. Got to
Speaker 2: win these games, and there was some questionable play calling
Speaker 2: in there, and even Lincoln Riley acknowledged that. But you
Speaker 2: beat Michigan and you got Oregon coming up. Paulie wants
Speaker 2: to play the Kevin Durant career salary game. He just
Speaker 2: signed a two year extension for ninety million dollars. They
Speaker 2: gave up a lot to get Kevin Durant. Would they
Speaker 2: give up like five second round picks or you know
Speaker 2: for guy thirty eight thirty nine years of age? All right,
Speaker 2: let's do the career set. He's done pretty well.
Speaker 15: Salary salary, salary salaries.
Speaker 2: That's the best part of it. You think it's over,
Speaker 2: and then it's one more. Okay, two parter. How much
Speaker 2: has he made and where does that rank all time?
Speaker 2: You want to do that?
Speaker 6: I love that?
Speaker 2: Okay, So two parter.
Speaker 6: Kevin Durant, this includes I want you to include when
Speaker 6: you pick his price all time? What he's going to
Speaker 6: get in the next two years, which is about ninety
Speaker 6: million dollars. Okay, So what will it be if you
Speaker 6: assume this is his last?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: God, five hundred and thirty eight million dollars?
Speaker 2: All right, seat O'Connor, I'm gonna put it him at
Speaker 2: six even, okay, Marvin six hundred and nineteen million. Dang,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go five twenty seven to five.
Speaker 6: After the next two years, Kevin Durant will have made
Speaker 6: five hundred and ninety one million dollars.
Speaker 2: Congratulations.
Speaker 6: As a rookie, he made four million, congratulations.
Speaker 2: Okay. Where would that rank him on the all time
Speaker 2: NBA list?
Speaker 6: Yes, okay, there's only two dudes ever who have made
Speaker 6: over five hundred as of today. Okay, there's six dudes
Speaker 6: who have made over four hundred.
Speaker 2: Wait, we just you just told us where he ranked
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 6: No, not yet, because that's what he's got coming to.
Speaker 2: But then you said there's two guys in front of it.
Speaker 6: No, I said, there's two guys who have five hundred
Speaker 6: and counting.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, uh JD.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say second highest after the ninety million deal.
Speaker 2: Okay, see man six Yah.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say he's at the top.
Speaker 11: I think he's number one.
Speaker 2: Okay, Marvin number one. Also, I'm gonna go one with
Speaker 2: a bullet.
Speaker 6: Lebron James is number one all time. Lebron is sitting
Speaker 6: at five eighty one. Kevin Durant is second, sitting at
Speaker 6: five oh one. They both have money in coming. Steph hurry,
Speaker 6: steph yeah for seventy in counting James Harden for eleven. Uh,
Speaker 6: this next one's a wild one. Paul George is at
Speaker 6: four hundred and six million and counting. Chris Paul is
Speaker 6: at four o four and counting.
Speaker 2: Dang, Thanks, Dang, Paul George, Dang, Paul George, James Hard
Speaker 2: and Chris Paul. How many titles there? For one point
Speaker 2: two billion dollars?
Speaker 6: A decade ago, Kevin Garnett at three thirty four, Yeah,
Speaker 6: was the highest paid NBA player of ball time. He's
Speaker 6: now fifteenth.
Speaker 2: What's Sga and Luca gonna make? What's Victor Winbin Yama
Speaker 2: gonna make? Because it's all slotted, you know you're you're
Speaker 2: gonna make a certain amount of money? And Victor is
Speaker 2: what twenty two? What's Cooper flag? Gonna make if he
Speaker 2: proves to be all star caliber. He looks pretty good.
Speaker 2: He does looks pretty good. I have to admit, although
Speaker 2: Reed Shepherd looked good the other night. I'm watching him
Speaker 2: going all right, Reid, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 7: Everybody looks good in the preseason.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, well, No, Reed Shepherd looked good
Speaker 2: in the summer League.
Speaker 7: Right, a bunch of guys that aren't going to play
Speaker 7: in the NBA.
Speaker 2: He was killing, Yes, I thought, yeah, man, they took
Speaker 2: him like third, didn't they?
Speaker 7: Yes, they did. But he's on the rockets this year
Speaker 7: with k do so another weapon.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna get any shots.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't gi him any shots either, Vin Kevin Durantz
Speaker 7: there you don't need.
Speaker 2: And he did average twenty six a game last year. Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 6: There's a breakdown on Sports Business Journal of Webbin Yama.
Speaker 6: If he makes certain escalators like first team or MVP,
Speaker 6: his deal that he can get the Supermax three years
Speaker 6: from now would be a five year, five hundred and
Speaker 6: thirteen million.
Speaker 2: He's going to make a billion dollars. Yeah, gonna make
Speaker 2: a billion dollars.
Speaker 6: He should be. He is on pace to be the
Speaker 6: first one hundred million dollar a year.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 6: It's got to take some work, but he's on pace.
Speaker 2: All right, last call for phone calls. What we learned,
Speaker 2: what's in store for tomorrow? We try to answer all
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Speaker 2: Nine of the top twenty five teams lost this weekend.
Speaker 2: Number two Miami falls to Louisville. Old Miss loses to Georgia.
Speaker 2: Tennessee handled easily by Alabama. LSU. They fell to Vandy,
Speaker 2: so Notre Dame winn and then the dominoes fall, and
Speaker 2: then this is where you start to move up. And
Speaker 2: as long as you keep winning, they're not getting knock
Speaker 2: you out of that spot. By the way, Reggie Miller,
Speaker 2: the return of Reggie Miller tomorrow. Yeah, all right, Rag,
Speaker 2: all right, we've been talking a lot about show. Hey Tani,
Speaker 2: here's his manager, Dave Roberts talking about the greatness that
Speaker 2: he saw Friday night.
Speaker 16: Yeah, that was, you know, the greatest, probably the greatest
Speaker 16: postseason performance of all time. And there's been a lot
Speaker 16: of postseason games, and uh, there's a reason why he's
Speaker 16: the greatest player on the planet. You know, what he
Speaker 16: did on the mound, what he did at the bat,
Speaker 16: he created a lot of memories for a lot of people.
Speaker 17: And so for us to you know, have a game
Speaker 17: clinching to do it in a game clinching game at
Speaker 17: home Wednesday, and I'll c SMVP pretty special and I'm
Speaker 17: just happy to be able to go along for the ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to be able to manage somebody like that.
Speaker 2: But he'd been in a slump during postseason, but certainly
Speaker 2: broke out in a grand way on Friday night. Uh,
Speaker 2: Zack and Albert kerque Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: Hey, damn, thanks for taking my calls first time caller
Speaker 12: six four two thirty five.
Speaker 15: Cool.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I just wanted to give him best and worse
Speaker 12: for the weekend. I know you guys hit on it
Speaker 12: a lot already, but by Denver Broncos if nothing else,
Speaker 12: you know, they're entertaining, whether it's the last second loss
Speaker 12: or the last second wins. And then my worst, it's
Speaker 12: got to be my Tennessee Vols getting handled by Alabama,
Speaker 12: and that was tough to watch.
Speaker 2: Alabama's got a good quarterback. He's good. Ty Simpson's good.
Speaker 2: I thought Gunner with Georgia played some good, good football.
Speaker 2: But Simpson's good. I remember when they had that first
Speaker 2: loss and then you know he was running for his life.
Speaker 2: But he's good. I don't know if he's NFL because
Speaker 2: we always get caught up. Can he play it like
Speaker 2: Diego Pavilla, I don't know. I mean, maybe he's a
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. I'm just enjoying him now like everybody had
Speaker 2: Carson Beck being a first round pick, and I go,
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a good quarterback. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think he's got moments. I think he gives the presentation
Speaker 2: of being a really good quarterback. But take away that
Speaker 2: one headed grab by the Miami receiver against Notre Dame
Speaker 2: that's picked off. They don't win. But yeah, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: they're back, and maybe they're a legitimate, you know, top five,
Speaker 2: top ten team. It's always good when Miami is back.
Speaker 7: Yes, Marvion, I thought Carson Beck being kind of jettison
Speaker 7: out of Georgia tells you everything you need to know
Speaker 7: about his NFL prospects.
Speaker 2: Paul in North Carolina, Hi Paul what's on your mind?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 10: Dan, Happy Monday, quig beston worst of the week, and
Speaker 10: also are the worst my i uga alum are defense
Speaker 10: looking unrecognizable once again for my best and Gunner stocking.
Speaker 10: You won twelve or twelve in the second half of
Speaker 10: three touchdowns. Dan, I'm also calling from Asheville, home of
Speaker 10: mid October VP week O'Donnell. This is his hometown, so
Speaker 10: we're proud of what he's doing. Don in Carolina. And finally, Dan,
Speaker 10: I just wanted to piggyback on Ron Darnland's conversation. I'm
Speaker 10: a big Mets fan and earlier this year, a Mets
Speaker 10: pitcher came in with like a five run lead in
Speaker 10: the eight, gave up, I don't remember the exact number,
Speaker 10: gave up, gave up the lead, gave up like four
Speaker 10: or five runs. The Mets retook the lead in the
Speaker 10: bottom of the eighth, BS closed it in the ninth,
Speaker 10: and the official score did not give that reliever the
Speaker 10: win because there's a rule it's called the brief and
Speaker 10: ineffective rule. If a score games, that a pitcher briefing
Speaker 10: in effect, if he can reward the win to somebody else.
Speaker 10: So that moved that Ron Darland stocking, but is not
Speaker 10: completely unprecedented.
Speaker 2: Oh great, thank you, Paul. I appreciate that. This day
Speaker 2: in sports history polling, I.
Speaker 6: Got a couple for you, Dan, I got. Nineteen thirty sixty,
Speaker 6: AP released its first weekly college football poll. Who was
Speaker 6: the number one team in the country eighteen thirty six?
Speaker 6: Chicago No Top ten though, give you a loop Army,
Speaker 6: the Minnesota Golden Gophers. The Gophers, this is a great one.
Speaker 6: Nineteen eighty nine the Houston Cougars and Andre Ware against SMU.
Speaker 6: The final score was ninety five to twenty one. That's
Speaker 6: a football game. They ran up oney twenty one yards
Speaker 6: of total offense on SMU.
Speaker 2: It was on this state. Nineteen sixty eight, the Fallsbury
Speaker 2: flop became the accepted way to hide jump Dick Fonnsbury.
Speaker 2: He won the gold medal in the Mexico City Olympics.
Speaker 11: Not a lot of times in the history somebody's completely
Speaker 11: reinvented an entire sport and then it became the way
Speaker 11: to do it after that.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. But did Tony Hawk do this in skateboarding?
Speaker 6: It's kind of apples and oranges. It's like they were
Speaker 6: doing the jump like a scissor kick.
Speaker 5: The high jump.
Speaker 6: He used to be a scissor kick, and you landed
Speaker 6: on your back. Then Fosbury went back arch the back hole.
Speaker 11: It's like if you were shooting underhanded and that was
Speaker 11: the way basketball was always done, and then you started
Speaker 11: shooting overhand like that, and now that's the only way
Speaker 11: you do it.
Speaker 2: Crazy feels like there's a play on the Faunsbury flop
Speaker 2: name here coming from Fritzy No.
Speaker 3: I was wondering, if you lose ninety five twenty one,
Speaker 3: are you shaking the hands of the other head coach?
Speaker 4: Sounds like a little bit of a running up of
Speaker 4: the score.
Speaker 6: They stopped before one hundred.
Speaker 2: Little bit, yeah, a little bit, not shaking that hand.
Speaker 2: You ran it up a little bit. Who was the coach?
Speaker 2: Was Mouse Davis there?
Speaker 6: Houston SMU was just coming off the death penalty.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's go around the room. What we learn on
Speaker 2: the program? Toddler? What'd you learn on June.
Speaker 3: Twenty third, nineteen seventy one, twenty five year old Phillies
Speaker 3: picture Rick Whi through a no hitter, hit two home
Speaker 3: runs in the same game, and you were in attendance.
Speaker 2: At Riverfront Stadium, setan would you learn. Flock around and
Speaker 2: find out. I like that T shirt's available. Are Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco's up there? I never thought we would do a
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco tribute T shirt, but it's there. Flock around
Speaker 2: and find out. Yeah, Marvin, you and RG. Three thin
Speaker 2: quarterbacks should be boring in front of the media.
Speaker 6: Paul the coach of the eighty nine Houston Cougars, Jack.
Speaker 2: Pardee, Oh, former linebacker for the then Redskins. Have a
Speaker 2: great day, everybody. Reggie Miller joins us tomorrow. Hope you
Speaker 2: join us as well.